Stamford Select Board — 2024-10-24 (Special)
- The St. John Bosco Church Building
- Reminders
Motions (7, 7 passed)
accept Article 1 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford purchase the former St. John Bosco Church building loc Mike Denaultseconded: Kurt Gamaripassed
accept Article 2 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford release and deplete the balance in the Future Needs Fu Mike Denaultseconded: John Dunnpassed
accept Article 3 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford release up to $155,000.00 from the Invested Funds towa Mike Denaultseconded: Kurt Gamaripassed
accept Article 4 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford borrow a sum not to exceed $100,000.00 (if Articles 2 Mike Denaultseconded: Kurt Gamaripassed
amend his prior motion by changing Article 4 to read: Shall the Town of Stamford borrow a sum not to exceed $1 Mike Denaultseconded: Kurt Gamaripassed
accept and sign the contract as written Mike Denaultseconded: Doug Wrightpassed
adjourn Kurt Gamariseconded: John Dunnpassed
Who owes what (3)
| Action | Owner | By when | Note | Where it stands |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| the board will be open to ideas | the board | — | assigned to a town office, not to a named person. | open no date in the minutes |
| the Select Board will look into these grants and other resources | the Select Board | — | assigned to a town office, not to a named person. | open no date in the minutes |
| The board will present this 2 opportunity to the town and it will be up to our residents to vote yes or no | The board | — | assigned to a town office, not to a named person. | open no date in the minutes |
scripts/action_status.py --done "a phrase".Money (5)
| John Bosco Church building located at 818 Main Road in Stamford, Vermont for the price of¶ ¶223 | John Bosco Church building located at 818 Main Road in Stamford, Vermont for the price of $175,000.00? | $175,000.00 |
| MOTION by Mike Denault to accept Article 2 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford release | MOTION by Mike Denault to accept Article 2 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford release and deplete the balance in the Future Needs Fund, estimated to be $32,660.00, toward the purchase price? | $32,660.00 |
| MOTION by Mike Denault to accept Article 3 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford release | MOTION by Mike Denault to accept Article 3 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford release up to $155,000.00 from the Invested Funds toward the purchase price? | $155,000.00 |
| MOTION by Mike Denault to accept Article 4 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford borrow a | MOTION by Mike Denault to accept Article 4 as written: Shall the Town of Stamford borrow a sum not to exceed $100,000.00 (if Articles 2 and 3 are passed) or $288,000.00 (if Article 2 and 3 are not passed), said sum to be repaid over a five year period? | $100,000.00; $288,000.00 |
| MOTION by Mike Denault to amend his prior motion by changing Article 4 to read: Shall the | MOTION by Mike Denault to amend his prior motion by changing Article 4 to read: Shall the Town of Stamford borrow a sum not to exceed $100,000.00 toward renovations, at a rate to be determined, said sum to be repaid over a five (5) year period? | $100,000.00 |
Public comment (15)
| Carolyn Brooks | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Debra Burchard | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Theresa Denault | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Carl Dolle | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Shirley Dolle | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Paul Dupuis | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Jedidiah Gramlin | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Peter Greenbush | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Cynthia Lamore | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Robert Lamore | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| William Levine | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Marta Miller | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Debra Righi | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| James Righi | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
| Christopher Vadnais | listed as a visitor; the minutes do not record what they said |
What the extraction was unsure about
- Extracted mechanically from the town's own minutes text (data/minutes/<meeting_id>.txt), which names the mover and seconder of every motion; the audio transcript was not consulted for attribution.
- Town minutes are the (UNAPPROVED) draft as published by the town.
- Agenda items are the ALL-CAPS section headings in the minutes, so their wording is the town's own and their order is the order in the document.
- Public comment lists only what the minutes record; visitors are listed when the minutes name them without recording a statement.
- Vote field is 'unanimous voice vote' when the minutes say 'All in favor', a numeric count when one appears, otherwise null.
Transcript
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible.
Speaker 3: Deb?
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: I'd like to address the first question she said would be, did town know about it a long time?
Speaker 8: meeting was last meeting last week we met with a special with the emergency meeting last thursday
Speaker 9: hey we're going to have an emergency town meeting let's get everybody involved let's vote to put an
Speaker 11: Or laurier, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 12: We'll leave you a card
Speaker 13: guys are envisioning
Speaker 14: I actually agree with you
Speaker 15: Those are some examples that I would say to apply your question I would say that
Speaker 16: property. In my experience people do not necessarily show up. Well we'll have the opportunity to do that that's all we can do is let them know that the opportunity is there if they come or not.
Speaker 19: For what?
Speaker 20: We do the best we can.
Speaker 21: But we had the other issue to do to the same again. It's just the optics of it
Speaker 5: I'm not getting any finance.
Speaker 22: My turn. So between now and the 25th, as well as the purchase price, will there be some sort of an estimate for the other costs that will happen over time and how will those be calculated? We're working on that, yeah. Okay, so maintenance over time, what if something happens? Okay.
Speaker 23: Thanks.
Speaker 24: at $100,000 a year, it would be about $25,000 a year.
Speaker 23: I don't think it has been at all.
Speaker 27: You know, I get it, we get it.
Speaker 29: There is down here, too.
Speaker 31: And that could be, you know, a deal-breaker.
Speaker 22: And thank you.
Speaker 32: Correct.
Speaker 33: Does it have to be fully ADA compliant?
Speaker 8: It's been sitting there for quite a few years, probably, because we used some for broadband.
Speaker 29: The interest.
Speaker 34: That's right.
Speaker 35: That's right.
Speaker 34: Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah. That's right. All right.
Speaker 19: About $40,000.
Speaker 36: But I think.
Speaker 22: Experts don't usually do that, though. They just say what's wrong.
Speaker 37: She's looking out for the Catholic. Yeah.
Speaker 3: How much for ADA, how much for septic, water, or you could go back to the diocese and say,
Speaker 38: Whatever you say, I'll be there and I am going to request paper ballot.
Speaker 39: You want to do half of that, pay half of it in finance?
Speaker 29: Toward what?
Speaker 29: Right, so it's going to be over budget.
Speaker 40: Oh yeah.
Speaker 41: We can't buy it. Okay. So it kills- It's just contingent to the finance. And if we don't have the money, if you guys don't pass the money, we can't buy it. We go back to the .
Speaker 42: Well, wait a minute, that's right.
Speaker 43: So if our number one passes-
Speaker 32: No, so-
Speaker 29: We can add that to the sign from, oh, I should not have mentioned that, I'm sorry.
Speaker 21: Garage.
Speaker 32: That's what the board would be watching.
Speaker 44: No, you don't need to.
Speaker 15: You know, like I said, this is extraordinarily high.
Speaker 45: And that's huge.
Speaker 41: Absolutely.
Speaker 21: It's a whole different ballgame, you know, but we can look into that down the road, you
Speaker 24: It would be more private and it wouldn't be open to the public, you know, as in a butter.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I was kind of thinking the other way, I can't survey or I'll tell you not to use, I'll give you his name later.
Speaker 46: It's kind of sneaky.
Speaker 8: So number one says that we're voting on.
Speaker 46: The contingency is in there.
Speaker 34: I think.
Speaker 47: I think.
Speaker 37: Oh, don't you can define.
Speaker 48: I'm sure they're going to not do anything, but you clearly weren't raised in that.
Speaker 48: I was not.
Speaker 35: I would just ask him.
Speaker 34: But I mean, I think you can go back to the church to tell him.
Speaker 49: This is what we're doing to give us a couple of minutes, you know, a couple of days to make sure we do that, you know, don't like they said, don't add anything you want for that contract, pretty much anything, except that they won't finance it for you.
Speaker 36: Okay, good.
Speaker 8: A couple, yeah.
Speaker 22: Me.
Speaker 50: Who did this math?
Speaker 22: What number do you want? It doesn't include the inspection that you said was going to be paid for separately anyway. Right. So that's how we want it all.
Speaker 51: Okay.
Speaker 52: Not a paper ballot during a town meeting night, but an actual printed ballot.
Speaker 31: Yeah, if two and three doesn't pass, four doesn't matter.
Speaker 45: If our...
Speaker 52: If our...
Speaker 53: If our...
Speaker 54: If our...
Speaker 35: If our...
Speaker 54: then we wouldn't have capital expense in our australian ballot um that's where that well
Speaker 55: the abusing article is i used to take that out then we don't have to worry about that just leave
Speaker 52: thousand on your bag it's forty thousand or forty dollars how long do you think you might know for
Speaker 56: grants in this village central district you may never need the four hundred thousand i'm wondering
Speaker 29: sweaters on because it's cold and the seats are cold nobody wants to move over because it takes
Speaker 29: okay oh we already made a motion for one two and three anyway but in but in march you want to make
Speaker 57: renovate we can't spend we can't we can't afford to renovate yeah or contrarily when march vote
Speaker 29: do other things and we're open to any donations from everybody but it might cost us
Speaker 24: than him i think he knows that he does all right so you can get a good deal on cheap time what's
Speaker 58: yeah you might have it down you might have it in now oh that's her business
Speaker 32: it on the website well you know it's it's funny because a lot of people say geez without the
Speaker 24: to have gone to that yeah yeah so you know maybe we can especially with this issue you know put
Speaker 35: that's it so you back no we didn't do four yet i would like to do the hundred thousand i would like
Speaker 34: to stop because i have any discussion you know not to exceed a hundred thousand for a five-year period i think it's clear that if i you're going to expect that yep yep so i'll take all that out
Speaker 59: and i'd like to make a motion to that all in favor yes all right so you're not going to say if articles two is very fast right a hundred thousand i think you could you could say yeah
Speaker 34: because if you don't pass it we don't know we don't have the finances we'll get to the
Speaker 8: select board before we i'd love to talk about the signing um wait a minute laurie's got something do
Speaker 22: I'm afraid you're surprised. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 22: Thank you.
Speaker 60: Are you a playwright? No. The trip fee is $95. No. That's the most sought-after job in any nonprofit. Anywhere. I mean, there's a lot of money out there for a lot of different things. Yeah. How much more?
Speaker 8: We just want to do this inspection part of it now.
Speaker 29: We're making sure.
Speaker 29: This was emailed to us.
Speaker 3: Water, the well testing, we're not doing that.
Speaker 61: We don't need to do that.
Speaker 62: We're going to renovate that. No, you paid the million dollars. You're getting the Title V. Yeah. You're not testing any lead pipes, right? That's a special order. Mold, you're not doing mold testing. That's only if it says in parentheses in the order. Yes, I missed this one.
Speaker 63: Yeah.
Speaker 54: I think he would be good.
Speaker 34: And I don't know if he can do electrical or not. He can.
Speaker 44: he doesn't do water i think he says yeah yeah yeah yeah for me
Speaker 62: if we generate if we estimate say thirty thousand for each that gives us ten thousand for under a hundred thousand dollar apartment yeah yeah so thirty thousand for electric thirty thousand yes really and then we might ask for something seriously
Speaker 65: we're gonna be able to steal or something from i was gonna say just downstairs
Speaker 66: center that's multiple uses you can do a fundraising sure there's a lot of options is it a potential
Speaker 67: at some point maybe there could be a solar field in there well someone talked to me about that and
Speaker 68: the fact that there's probably a steel tank that was probably not everywhere
Speaker 29: i put your name your initials down oh okay not that i care i'm just wondering if we have their
Speaker 62: yeah yeah is there a kitchen in here or something i was thinking maybe you could do like something
Speaker 63: as long as it's good okay
Speaker 63: oh so i'm called
Speaker 29: Yeah, because we already.
Speaker 69: We're not professionals.
Speaker 62: Politicians, bottom line, isn't it? Even professionals can talk, right? You see someone at the town meeting, it's just like, no. We're just trying to make sure.
Speaker 62: The big thing as far as this is a senior center. You put it on the list, and then it's on this person's list. Yeah, yeah. You can hang it on the building, right? Or you guys want to use the floor. You can hang it on the wall. Yep. That's definitely a good idea.
Speaker 27: Yeah.
Speaker 70: We could do a lot.
Speaker 62: Aye.
Speaker 71: No, we don't do the next week meeting.