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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible.

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...warrant for the special town meeting to purchase and finance the St. John Bosco Church building.

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We have already signed a purchase and sales agreement tentative on town meeting approval.

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Nothing is set in stone.

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This is just to sign the warrant so it can go to a special town meeting on November 25th at 7 o'clock in the school.

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So that's when you can all voice your opinion and vote.

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We're not going to get into too much discussion tonight, right?

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I personally...

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If people want to give five minutes, I don't have a problem with that.

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We always do a slight board meeting.

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We always have hearing of visitors.

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If people want to voice their opinion, I don't have a problem with that with the rest of the board.

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I just don't think we should go because I'm pretty sure everybody's here for the same reason.

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So keep it to the 15-minute discussion.

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But really, I want to stress that this is all about giving an opportunity.

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It doesn't matter.

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We don't have any skin in the game at all.

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The opportunity came up.

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We hear from people a lot that we should have bought this or we should have bought that building.

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So opportunity came up.

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We said we're going to...

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The purchase had to go fairly quick.

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So we said...

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But we have plenty of contingencies in place.

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Cindy.

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Anybody want to talk?

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So it is a two-part question, if you please.

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Is there a specific thing that you want the building for?

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And were you required to put down the deposit?

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We had to put down a deposit, which is fully refundable, right up until we sign the deed, is that correct?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Or...

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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If the voters do not approve it, we will get all of our money back.

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If the inspection fails, we have an opportunity to cancel and get our money back.

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So...

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That's understandable.

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What was the...

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Was there a specific use in that?

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We've heard so many ideas.

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Ideas that we, the board, has not said, we're going to use it only for this.

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I'm sure if it does go through, we will be open to a lot of ideas.

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And I'm sure there's going to have to be many discussions on that.

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But it's just a beautiful piece of property there.

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And I hate to lose it because we've lost the range.

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There was a gravel bank for sale that we passed up on.

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The building...

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The building next door to the school with all the land behind it.

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So, I just thought we'd investigate this.

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Deb?

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I have a few questions.

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You had mentioned right in the beginning, they're subject to financing.

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And the purchase and sale, it is not subject to financing.

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So, I'd like to clarify that.

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So, is it a cash offer?

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Because there is no financing contingency.

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Right.

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We can add an addendum to...

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We can add an addendum until tomorrow.

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Okay.

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The second question is, it just seems so quick.

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It does.

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And the board has known about it for a long time that the church was closing, going up for sale.

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So, I'm just...

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We can't just have tonight and then have a meeting.

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We have to be apprised all along of what's going on.

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What are the bids?

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Is the septic good?

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If not, how much is it going to cost?

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The water we know is not potable.

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Do we need a new well?

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So, these are all things that have to be done from here to the 25th.

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Who's going to do it?

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How will we keep informed?

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Because this is public.

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Yep.

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This is public.

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Yep.

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Is there a committee?

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Is it up to the select board?

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Are you going to keep us advised?

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This is our money.

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Yep.

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This will...

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It's not just a select board meeting.

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I'd like to address the first question she said would be, did town know about it a long time?

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, town did know.

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Everybody in town knew that the church was closing.

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And they knew that once the church closes, it would probably, probably go up for sale.

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So, there was a rumor.

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Yeah.

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So, that's what we're doing.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So, I'm not sure if that's a rumor.

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I'm not sure if that was a rumor.

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I sit on the finance committee of the church.

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I knew about it.

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When the church put it up for sale, there was a bid within two days.

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Yep.

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I'm aware of that.

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Okay.

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And we came in.

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The church, specifically, the Father Achalafu, knew that the town was interested and said,

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I would like to give them an opportunity to go up for sale.

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Okay.

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Before I sell it to anybody else.

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Because he wanted to give the opportunity to townspeople, because he has parishioners

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in town.

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He said this would be a good thing.

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They are kind of concerned of what will happen to this property.

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And they gave that opportunity.

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The opportunity, I told Father, I didn't want to be the middleman because I have a conflict

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of interest if I did that.

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So, I told Father to get ahold of the town, the board.

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He did.

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He did.

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He did.

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And he did.

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He did.

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He did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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And he did.

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The reason he really did that is after he accepted our bid, after he had a bid, I

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know that both the bids were equal.

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So, that is...

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Well I don't know that but I just know that the bids were equal.

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That's is what not came through.

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The only what came through the church.

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So, when that happened, the board decided to move forward because there was a short

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amount of time to do that.

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That being said there's nothing saying we're buying anything. This is up to you up to the people

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There's all kinds of contingencies. There's a

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We're getting inspected. So your sewer and your water and your all your inspections will be done

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We're getting it inspected where we have an out with the lawyers look at it and say there's something

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We have an out if the vote doesn't go through

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Finances we have we we have the buying money

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We would look afterwards for renovation money at the town hall. We will let everybody know that once we decide

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the warrant

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Put what's it going to be?

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So when you you will know if it doesn't pass the inspection

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Then we can just pull out if we figure it's going to cost more than the church's work

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But we'll bring all that to the people. This is nothing that the board is making that decision. I understand but will we know before

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the

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Special warrant we will have a meeting before the special so we will have

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Sure, how we're going to do the notice if we're going to mail it to everybody with

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Information in there ten days before the meeting or we're just publishing it that we haven't talked about that yet

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They publish it in the newspaper

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We're not going to put all the

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Finances in there because it's too much

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So we might just

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Mail everything we don't know and we can also have during our meetings. We can mention it

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So to get back to the town knew about it, I'm just curious who talked about it

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Like it got together and when that happened and who decided to use the town money

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For the down payment for all the inspection stuff like it's nice have to be one that that's us that we might

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meeting was last meeting last week we met with a special with the emergency meeting last thursday

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wednesday thursday which just consisted of executive session and then that see you later

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so i mean i'm just saying like it just seems kind of backdoorish and i know that you're not saying

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it is but from our perspective like it just kind of looks like hey by the way we put a deposit down

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and put a full offer on the property and it's like so there's already a cash full price offer

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the church could one thousand percent say we're putting this on hold until the town can get their

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stuff together there was no rush there is no rush i've bought enough property i own enough property

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to know that we can say okay no you didn't have my point is you didn't have to put a bid in you

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could have said we need to go in front of the town can you put this on hold for 30 days

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and they would have said no problem i guarantee the church could have done that i don't know what

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i just that's why that's where my concern is all of a sudden it's just money that wasn't brought up

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in the town church any deposit we're getting back full deposit we'll get back there's nothing back

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back door about this now i'm i'm just i'm not saying there is i'm just saying it appears that

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way because i understand the financing part and i understand if we're going to do cash and i

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understand if you're going to put a bid in you got to do it in a certain amount of time like i get

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all that but the

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if the church is the one holding the cards which you're saying they are we could have simply said

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hey we're going to have an emergency town meeting let's get everybody involved let's vote to put an

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offer that waited that long to have the meeting and then when they already have a bid at the same

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time i don't know i wanted to wait until march and they didn't want to wait until march well

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they don't have to wait till march they could just wait for the next board meeting which was

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well we have to have a special week well we could have done it right here oh boy according to the

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what's the answer from the church was is they weren't waiting so i wasn't at that meeting i

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was just at the finance meeting but the church itself the decision comes from father shelvin

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so he decided that's what he was going to do he gave the town the all the provisions to say we'll

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wait for a vote and so on so that vote is giving you that time period there's no back door anything

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and i know you keep saying you're not saying that but yard

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It just appears that way from a and I'm telling you again. There is not I'm sorry if you think that but there is

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Just an opportunity being brought forward either one or you don't want it. Correct

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Or laurier, yeah, I don't know

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So when the realtor called me

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She called me in the morning and said we have two bids on the table

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We are aware that the town is interested. I need an answer by noon

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um

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if you're interested and you

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Are interested enough to sign a document and move forward or you're not and when I asked it how long we had

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She said they don't want to heat it. They don't want to deal with it over the winter. They have other buyers. So you either

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Need to say yes by noon

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Or we will proceed to the next buyer

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And we did not have any more time than that and they did allow us to have

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the 55 day window to pull

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A special town meeting together so that

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It could go for a town vote

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But that was all the time they were willing to give us

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I mean that makes total sense

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I don't disagree that they could come to a come to you guys with that specific words

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but in the other

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Sentence they're saying we don't want to heat this we don't want to do anything with it

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But they got two full price offers that are cash in my brain

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They're saying I got to get rid of this because I don't want to sell it

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Why aren't they just taking the full price cash offer rather than coming to us?

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I mean, that's just the stuff that I think there's more to it than money

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The parishioners

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I guess you have to go talk to the church about that

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As long as the town is on your side

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I would guess that the church wants to see it go to the town

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But they've been a church

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There is going to be a stipulation in the deed

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That it cannot be used for anything sordid and that will stay in the deed according to father. No i'm out of debt

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I'll do that

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No it's not in itself

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You're selling

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It's just somebody we can't help

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We'll leave you a card

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Coming forward for the town and I can guarantee you there's not going to be another opportunity within the village center for a long time

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Carolyn this is it

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Carolyn two questions. Yes one

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How much did you offer?

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Is there a plan in place for?

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the decisions

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About how the building gets used

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What's the process that you?

250
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guys are envisioning

251
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Well we offered the asking price $175

252
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As far as use afterwards we haven't discussed that because we want to wait and see what happens at town meeting

253
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I'm not asking about what you want to do with it

254
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I'm asking do you have a plan in place for a process

255
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No

256
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I think that would be an important thing to put forward in the warrant

257
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Is what the process is

258
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Is the process of decision making about how the building gets used

259
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Because I think that is one of the big concerns that everybody has

260
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We own this building

261
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We can't agree on what time to have a meeting

262
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So how we can all agree

263
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I understand that

264
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I actually agree with you

265
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There is going to be resistance on both sides

266
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And I agree with that

267
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That's why I told them to vote

268
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I think the best examples of what it can be used for

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Would be historic building

270
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We have our historic

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Artifacts

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Our stored in the closet

273
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In the janitor's closet

274
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So we don't have

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They are not going to last

276
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We have

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I don't really want to get into too much of it

278
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But Kirk can probably get into more

279
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About the grant money available in the Village Center

280
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It's just amazing

281
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Historic thing

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community center there's many things that we can use it for like a voting

283
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voting center that the school doesn't have to be interrupted anymore there's

284
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there's a lot of ideas and you know you should have a process and we will and

285
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there is you know I thank you for that I mean we will have to do some renovation

286
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and that'll be a slow process of starting with the downstairs in my mind

287
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at least if I'm even around by then but you know I just think that that would be

288
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a good goal I hear a lot of residents always I've only lived there ten years

289
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by the way I've been on the board for ten years too so anybody wants to step

290
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in I'm getting better but that's nevertheless you know I hear a lot of

291
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people say geez before you got here we have an opportunity for this now we have

292
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nothing that we can't use the school property ask permission or we the

293
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school's in the process we can't go down there if there's children there this

294
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would be an opportunity so this

295
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is a good thing.

296
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Those are some examples that I would say to apply your question I would say that

297
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we would have to have some kind of community outreach listening session

298
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something like that to get feedback from people who would want to do with the building and the

299
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property. In my experience people do not necessarily show up. Well we'll have the opportunity to do that that's all we can do is let them know that the opportunity is there if they come or not.

300
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See ya.

301
00:16:38,450 --> 00:16:54,470
I have some concerns about the emergency meeting and how it was not conducted here's the thing the notice came out without any

302
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reference to what statute was going to be used for the executive session I

303
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understand I don't I didn't know until tonight what the timeframe was because I understood I don't I didn't know until tonight what the timeframe.

304
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of course.

305
00:17:09,309 --> 00:17:13,920
But you had a select board meeting scheduled for two nights past that.

306
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It doesn't seem like the church, given all the conversations I've heard,

307
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like the church would say, no, we can't wait two days for you to bring it together.

308
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My other issue is in the minutes from that meeting,

309
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the statute listed for going into executive session was a discussion with legal counsel.

310
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But yet in the minutes of that, there's no mention that the lawyer was talked to,

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only a phone call to the real estate agent.

312
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And so I'm questioning, is that really a valid executive session?

313
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At the select board's meeting, we went into executive session,

314
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and I believe it was for two legal matters.

315
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We have two pending.

316
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And like Bill asked, will the town eventually know?

317
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Yes, he will know, but we can't say at this point.

318
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So as far as the...

319
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Emergency, or special meeting, or emergency meeting,

320
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or maybe we should have said special, or quick meeting, or work session,

321
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but we had to have a meeting.

322
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And we didn't go right into executive session because we were discussing a contract.

323
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Which is perfectly legal.

324
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So we're not trying to hide anything.

325
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There's no shame in any of this.

326
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It's just an opportunity that's thrown out there.

327
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Can I finish?

328
00:18:45,829 --> 00:18:48,029
I'm not trying to imply anything was done.

329
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I'm just concerned with the paper trail and the process

330
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that non-select board members are seeing, myself mainly.

331
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And it seems like this board goes into executive session every meeting.

332
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Yes, because we've had a legal problem ongoing for quite a while.

333
00:19:08,809 --> 00:19:09,029
Okay.

334
00:19:09,309 --> 00:19:10,970
And not the church.

335
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:14,670
Just recently, we've been going into executive session every meeting.

336
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But prior to that, we really don't go into executive session.

337
00:19:18,089 --> 00:19:22,130
We don't go into executive session at all compared to the school board

338
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who has it on their agenda every meeting.

339
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:29,150
So we have this legal matter, so we have to have that on every meeting

340
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for the last four months, I think it was.

341
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That's fine.

342
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So when you cite the reason for the executive session, talking to the lawyer,

343
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that covered one of the issues in the executive session.

344
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Do you not have to also cite the other?

345
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This is a legal contract.

346
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For the church?

347
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Just legal.

348
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:50,539
Both.

349
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A real estate contract.

350
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Negotiating a real estate contract.

351
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Yes.

352
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They're both on the legal contract.

353
00:19:57,799 --> 00:19:59,059
And we have?

354
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We have.

355
00:20:00,740 --> 00:20:01,680
Okay.

356
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That was my question.

357
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But you disagree?

358
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That's fine.

359
00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:04,680
There's better wording to use.

360
00:20:04,859 --> 00:20:05,660
For what?

361
00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:06,680
For legal contract?

362
00:20:07,019 --> 00:20:18,089
For discussing a contract and making it public to leave the town at a disadvantage.

363
00:20:19,869 --> 00:20:20,170
Okay.

364
00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:21,210
We're not trying to hide anything.

365
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We do the best we can.

366
00:20:21,690 --> 00:20:22,710
Because it has to do with law.

367
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:22,730
Go ahead.

368
00:20:22,829 --> 00:20:23,970
We said I'm a real estate lawyer.

369
00:20:24,029 --> 00:20:38,599
I mean, again, if we waited to two days after, which we couldn't because the realtor said

370
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we had to noon that day, trust me, I left work to go to that meeting.

371
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Okay?

372
00:20:43,619 --> 00:20:46,400
So it wasn't like any of us wanted to go to that meeting.

373
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It wasn't a shady deal by any means.

374
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,779
But if we went two more days, if the church had allowed us or a realtor allowed us to

375
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do that.

376
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:59,660
The outcome would have been exactly the same. The opportunity two more days weren't a matter in my mind

377
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,359
So it would have been the outcome would have been the same on that particular contract

378
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,460
But we had the other issue to do to the same again. It's just the optics of it

379
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Seems off and having heard the explanation now. I'm fine with it

380
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,960
We probably will go into executive session next meeting for a legal matter because it's not settled yet

381
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,960
Just real quick, um

382
00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:37,089
Rumors fly. So yes, I would love to have it cleared up Nancy. Are you on the board for the diocese? Also?

383
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So

384
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She's not conflict. She's on the word for she's on the board. I'm sorry

385
00:21:46,809 --> 00:21:52,190
You're on the board of the same but John Bosco, which is close now you're on the board for

386
00:21:54,509 --> 00:21:57,829
She is it on the existing board at this moment

387
00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:04,829
And that board met prior to this all this

388
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was

389
00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:14,539
Gonna say two weeks before I did this half. So you don't feel that's a conflict. No. Okay, Nancy. You don't feel it's a conflict

390
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signing the document

391
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without

392
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representation

393
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,859
Just curious

394
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,299
Okay, um, I mean

395
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I'm not getting any finance.

396
00:22:27,299 --> 00:22:28,380
Yeah, the finance committee.

397
00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:29,000
No, no.

398
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,980
No, I'm just perception again.

399
00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:35,599
The finance committee at the church has no authority at all, zero.

400
00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:37,480
They're just an advisory board.

401
00:22:37,859 --> 00:22:40,440
They just talk to the priest.

402
00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:42,339
The priest makes every decision there is,

403
00:22:42,740 --> 00:22:46,839
including he makes decisions even without the diocese.

404
00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:48,619
It's just the priest that makes the decisions.

405
00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:49,880
We have no say.

406
00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:51,299
You can contact him.

407
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,720
You can ask him all the questions he'll show you.

408
00:22:53,859 --> 00:22:55,140
He would be more than grateful.

409
00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:58,940
He makes all the decisions, trust me,

410
00:22:59,349 --> 00:23:00,670
whether you disagree or agree.

411
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:03,039
Okay.

412
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:04,059
Can we?

413
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My turn.

414
00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:12,000
So between now and the 25th, as well as the purchase price,

415
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,180
will there be some sort of an estimate for the other costs

416
00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:20,160
that will happen over time and how will those be calculated?

417
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,339
We're working on that, yeah.

418
00:23:21,619 --> 00:23:24,619
Okay, so maintenance over time, what if something happens?

419
00:23:24,619 --> 00:23:24,920
Okay.

420
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,619
I can get to.

421
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:30,740
Some of the, I was just talking to Kurt about it, or John,

422
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,859
I can get the utility costs, although, of course,

423
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,619
the church doesn't have the electricity costs that we would have

424
00:23:41,619 --> 00:23:43,500
if we had it open more often.

425
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,420
But the heat would be pretty similar.

426
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:49,200
Well, yeah, we only turn the heat up one day.

427
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:51,640
Well, we don't know how many days.

428
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,319
Yeah, I mean, we can just see where that is and what the usage is for that day.

429
00:23:57,700 --> 00:23:58,039
Thanks.

430
00:23:58,140 --> 00:23:58,319
One more.

431
00:23:58,339 --> 00:23:58,720
One more question.

432
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,359
Yes.

433
00:24:00,769 --> 00:24:02,130
Unless someone else has one.

434
00:24:03,579 --> 00:24:09,859
Do we know yet what the charge will be to the town for the $175,000

435
00:24:09,859 --> 00:24:11,859
as far as tax increase?

436
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,819
Depending on how we do it.

437
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,359
How we finance it.

438
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:20,440
We have the buying money.

439
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,819
Okay, so we have, I guess, what you would call separate accounts

440
00:24:25,819 --> 00:24:29,140
for almost like a rainy day type account.

441
00:24:30,029 --> 00:24:32,289
If we use that, we have the buying money.

442
00:24:32,750 --> 00:24:34,289
So we don't have to borrow any money.

443
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:36,259
We use that money to buy it.

444
00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:40,009
If we ask, which we will ask for renovation money,

445
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,779
if that renovation money, just for numbers,

446
00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:44,920
it was $100,000 to renovate it,

447
00:24:45,779 --> 00:24:50,819
the numbers on a $50,000 loan,

448
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:55,599
so that $50,000 a year payback,

449
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:59,420
it's approximately $80 on a $350,000 house.

450
00:25:00,339 --> 00:25:00,779
Per capita?

451
00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:03,609
Per your house.

452
00:25:03,609 --> 00:25:05,789
Per for a $150,000 bag.

453
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:07,730
So if you're less than that, it would be less.

454
00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:09,029
So about $80.

455
00:25:09,769 --> 00:25:13,009
So this would be $40 because it would be about approximately

456
00:25:13,009 --> 00:25:16,059
at $100,000 a year, it would be about $25,000 a year.

457
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,700
But then do we have to replace the $175,000 in the rainy day fund?

458
00:25:19,859 --> 00:25:22,200
We don't need to replace a rainy day fund.

459
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,160
But we have been putting money into those.

460
00:25:26,099 --> 00:25:28,640
So we don't need to replace, similar to the fire department.

461
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,279
You know, you guys put away so much money,

462
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:32,740
you don't need, you bought your truck,

463
00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:34,119
now you don't need to put that.

464
00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:35,220
You don't need to put that money away, but you could.

465
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,619
So that would go back to a warrant in a regular county.

466
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,660
So if we wanted to say, okay, we took $100,000 out of a rainy day fund,

467
00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:46,940
which I don't know what a rainy day fund is used for

468
00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:48,480
except for the future of the town,

469
00:25:48,779 --> 00:25:50,019
that makes sense to me at least.

470
00:25:50,380 --> 00:25:51,000
Just like you.

471
00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:53,740
Yeah, we have emergency money too.

472
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,220
But I'm saying if we take the fire department,

473
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,519
bought a $500,000 truck that didn't have $500,000,

474
00:26:02,109 --> 00:26:03,990
but before you bought the truck,

475
00:26:04,069 --> 00:26:05,569
you were putting $50,000 in there,

476
00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:08,130
year in, year out, towards that price.

477
00:26:08,569 --> 00:26:10,890
So when we borrowed the money, it was less.

478
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:12,130
Understand?

479
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:16,170
So now you bought the truck, we're making the payments,

480
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:19,309
we could still at the town meeting now say a warrant

481
00:26:19,309 --> 00:26:22,890
to continue to put that $50,000 into the fire department.

482
00:26:23,410 --> 00:26:25,190
So five, ten years from now,

483
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:28,450
we might have enough to put down on the million dollar fire truck

484
00:26:28,450 --> 00:26:30,349
that we're going to have five, ten years from now.

485
00:26:31,549 --> 00:26:34,349
That's not even out of line.

486
00:26:34,349 --> 00:26:35,349
We don't.

487
00:26:35,589 --> 00:26:40,589
Is the Rainy Day Fund, and forgive my ignorance on this,

488
00:26:40,690 --> 00:26:43,430
is the Rainy Day Fund continually added to every year?

489
00:26:44,529 --> 00:26:45,029
No.

490
00:26:45,950 --> 00:26:47,029
Oh, we didn't.

491
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:48,190
I don't think it has been at all.

492
00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:50,410
So that will be an increase next year

493
00:26:50,410 --> 00:26:54,230
if we decide to pump the Rainy Day back in there.

494
00:26:54,430 --> 00:26:54,650
Sure.

495
00:26:55,069 --> 00:26:58,009
So we'll have the increase for the renovation,

496
00:26:58,269 --> 00:26:59,829
the increase for the Rainy Day Fund.

497
00:27:00,430 --> 00:27:01,349
If you vote on it.

498
00:27:01,589 --> 00:27:01,849
Correct.

499
00:27:02,670 --> 00:27:03,309
If you vote on it.

500
00:27:03,309 --> 00:27:04,390
In any upkeep.

501
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:04,690
Yeah.

502
00:27:04,829 --> 00:27:05,589
And then?

503
00:27:05,589 --> 00:27:09,769
My last question is how much comes off the tax roll

504
00:27:09,769 --> 00:27:11,529
because that will not be town property?

505
00:27:11,710 --> 00:27:12,490
It's not taxable.

506
00:27:12,490 --> 00:27:13,130
It's not taxable.

507
00:27:13,130 --> 00:27:14,369
It's never been taxable.

508
00:27:14,490 --> 00:27:14,930
It's a church.

509
00:27:15,069 --> 00:27:15,690
It's a church.

510
00:27:15,970 --> 00:27:16,170
Okay.

511
00:27:17,180 --> 00:27:19,920
Now, it could have very well been on a tax roll

512
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,799
if someone else bought it.

513
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,160
That is a good answer.

514
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,339
That's right.

515
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:25,619
If the people that bought it are non-profit organizations

516
00:27:25,619 --> 00:27:28,380
or they implement that, then it wouldn't have taxes.

517
00:27:29,059 --> 00:27:32,960
So that's, you know, there were two offers on the table

518
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,059
and there could have been taxes brought in.

519
00:27:35,059 --> 00:27:36,059
So that's a good question.

520
00:27:36,059 --> 00:27:40,700
You know, I look at it like, you know, there will be expense to this.

521
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:43,480
Anybody who thinks there's not going to be expense, that's crazy.

522
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,960
Of course, it's just, again, I hate to, I'm not picking on the fire department,

523
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,339
but I'm using the fire department as an example that there, I think I said it

524
00:27:51,339 --> 00:27:54,740
at the town meeting, if you don't want a fire department, don't vote yes.

525
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:56,660
And eventually, it won't be a fire department.

526
00:27:56,660 --> 00:27:57,900
There won't be any trucks left, right?

527
00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,519
So you have that choice.

528
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,640
But if you want a fire department, vote yes.

529
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,500
You know, buy the truck.

530
00:28:04,740 --> 00:28:05,039
Same thing.

531
00:28:05,059 --> 00:28:05,420
Same thing with us.

532
00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:10,880
If you don't want a future of somewhere to go and have, you know, a center

533
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,000
or whatever we decide to do with it, don't vote.

534
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,039
It's going to cost money.

535
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,559
I don't think anybody thinks it's not.

536
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:28,880
Is it possible, assuming it goes through, you set up a committee or whatever

537
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:35,539
to determine what to do with it, who can use it, and so on, is it within the,

538
00:28:35,539 --> 00:28:40,599
the law to charge for its usage?

539
00:28:40,819 --> 00:28:42,160
Is that possible?

540
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,220
I believe it is.

541
00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:44,099
I believe it is.

542
00:28:44,099 --> 00:28:47,400
I think what I've dealt with like that is requesting donations.

543
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:47,660
Yeah.

544
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:48,519
Okay.

545
00:28:48,779 --> 00:28:50,140
So that.

546
00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:56,299
Because I'd like to see it generate revenue to, even just for upkeep.

547
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,019
Sure.

548
00:28:57,019 --> 00:29:02,819
If you wanted to have, say, a bridal shower or a baby shower or something,

549
00:29:02,819 --> 00:29:05,380
and you're a town resident, we say, hey, can you give a donation?

550
00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:05,539
Sure.

551
00:29:05,539 --> 00:29:10,859
And the donation could be a hundred, like the church does, the church does.

552
00:29:10,859 --> 00:29:11,140
Yeah.

553
00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:12,680
You know, you want to use the center down there,

554
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,779
the recommended donation's a hundred bucks.

555
00:29:14,779 --> 00:29:16,319
We're not charging you.

556
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,400
But if you don't give me the donation next time around, we might not let you.

557
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,819
Yes.

558
00:29:19,819 --> 00:29:23,660
You know, I get it, we get it.

559
00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:26,819
I just have a question about something else with Consolidated.

560
00:29:26,819 --> 00:29:28,880
Could I just buzz it by you?

561
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,130
Yeah.

562
00:29:30,130 --> 00:29:33,769
I called them over the beginning of the summer and asked them

563
00:29:33,769 --> 00:29:36,589
when they were going to remove the telephone pole, and the, you know,

564
00:29:36,589 --> 00:29:40,049
and the rocks and the gravel that they left all over my mother's lawn.

565
00:29:40,049 --> 00:29:43,910
And they assured me that they'd be there within a couple weeks to take care of it.

566
00:29:43,910 --> 00:29:48,210
They came, they cut four feet off the top of the pole, and they haven't been back since.

567
00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:51,690
Is there a deadline for them to finish this project?

568
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:56,089
Or are they just going to leave rocks and gravel on everybody's lawn for the next ten years?

569
00:29:56,089 --> 00:29:58,910
I don't know anything to do with Consolidated.

570
00:29:58,910 --> 00:30:01,789
I don't know if you guys can put pressure on them or not.

571
00:30:01,789 --> 00:30:06,289
We cleaned up around the pole because Jim was a Shamoa, because it was a rock pile.

572
00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:06,430
Yeah.

573
00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:07,329
There's gravel and rocks.

574
00:30:07,329 --> 00:30:08,470
There is down here, too.

575
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:10,670
They left cable in front of my son's house.

576
00:30:10,670 --> 00:30:11,549
Oh, that's because, yeah.

577
00:30:11,549 --> 00:30:13,789
I, maybe, we will try to reach out to them.

578
00:30:13,789 --> 00:30:16,470
I didn't know if the public service board could get out of the way.

579
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:17,390
I don't know if we can squeeze on the, you know,

580
00:30:17,390 --> 00:30:20,250
it's a private thing between the buyer.

581
00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:24,250
But we will, we can reach out to them, I would say, and send them a letter at the very least.

582
00:30:24,250 --> 00:30:24,529
I mean.

583
00:30:24,529 --> 00:30:27,190
And say that the residents are unhappy with the, you know,

584
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:28,390
the way everything was left.

585
00:30:28,390 --> 00:30:29,930
Could you come back and clean up a little bit?

586
00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:31,569
They assured me they were going to clean it up.

587
00:30:31,569 --> 00:30:31,829
Yeah.

588
00:30:31,829 --> 00:30:32,730
And they never came back.

589
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:35,319
I mean, I don't, I don't have a problem with sending them a letter.

590
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:36,589
Thank you.

591
00:30:36,589 --> 00:30:39,009
Okay, can we move on to the warrant now?

592
00:30:39,009 --> 00:30:42,089
Yes, telephone lawyers are still up to that.

593
00:30:42,089 --> 00:30:54,619
They would transfer them to the newspaper.

594
00:30:54,619 --> 00:30:56,900
We have a couple different articles on here.

595
00:30:56,900 --> 00:31:00,829
Oh, nice.

596
00:31:00,829 --> 00:31:11,349
So, article one is, I think we're kind of in agreement that we do not want to finance this.

597
00:31:11,349 --> 00:31:16,769
We want to use the money that we have to buy the building outright.

598
00:31:16,769 --> 00:31:21,349
So, I think Laurie sent the email to us about the interest rates.

599
00:31:21,349 --> 00:31:21,630
Yeah.

600
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:26,230
If I'm not mistaken, it's around, however, around seven, seven and a half percent.

601
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:27,690
Seven and nine.

602
00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:34,289
Yeah. So, I'd rather use the money that we have, you know, inflation makes money in the bank go down,

603
00:31:34,289 --> 00:31:34,789
not up.

604
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:39,930
So, I'd rather use the money in the bank, like we talked about on executive session,

605
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:48,920
and I would like to ask for a renovation money, which would be a lot less on the borrower side.

606
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,900
Which we don't know what it will be yet until the inspection.

607
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:54,180
Right.

608
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:54,420
Okay.

609
00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:59,799
And that could be, you know, a deal-breaker.

610
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:03,619
You know, they come in and say, hey, look, we've got to spend a million dollars on this.

611
00:32:03,619 --> 00:32:06,559
And you just say, thank you, see you later.

612
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:07,240
And that.

613
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,000
And thank you.

614
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:17,039
And that inspection, we don't have to give that to the other buyers or anything.

615
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:17,880
That's our inspection.

616
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,599
We paid for it.

617
00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:19,059
Yeah.

618
00:32:19,059 --> 00:32:21,240
Yeah, that's our .

619
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,819
Yep.

620
00:32:21,819 --> 00:32:25,220
But the renovation is going to be dependent on your use.

621
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:26,759
The intended use.

622
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:27,519
Correct.

623
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:34,059
But we know that if we get an inspection and they say, you need a new sewer system, that's $40,000.

624
00:32:34,059 --> 00:32:34,559
Yeah.

625
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:35,619
But if they say, you need a new sewer system.

626
00:32:35,619 --> 00:32:36,880
That's all?

627
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,619
Yeah.

628
00:32:37,619 --> 00:32:39,359
I think it's more than that.

629
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:42,319
I could get you a bid on that building for less than $40,000.

630
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,980
But if you're buying something more than that, let me know and I'll help you out on that.

631
00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:48,220
It's going to be a public space, I'm sure.

632
00:32:48,220 --> 00:32:50,619
I'd pay $28,000.

633
00:32:50,619 --> 00:32:52,500
Just a public space with all the .

634
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:53,339
That's a six-bedroom.

635
00:32:53,339 --> 00:32:54,759
Wrinkler systems.

636
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:55,059
Yeah.

637
00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:57,559
You know, a sprinkler system would have to be installed.

638
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:58,059
Yeah.

639
00:32:58,059 --> 00:32:59,279
That was my question.

640
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,180
Does it have to be fully ADA compliant?

641
00:33:01,180 --> 00:33:02,720
ADA compliant.

642
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,359
There's a list of about 40 grants right there.

643
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,759
The Village Center designation.

644
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:11,519
I haven't, I'm not a big grant guy, I haven't thoroughly studied through them.

645
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:12,980
Anybody's welcome to look at it.

646
00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:14,619
It's public knowledge.

647
00:33:14,619 --> 00:33:20,819
But there is the potential for a lot of money to be available to do, you know, to bring the place into compliance.

648
00:33:20,819 --> 00:33:23,180
But there's no guarantee you'd get the grant, right?

649
00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:23,680
Right.

650
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:30,680
Because it's in the Village Center designation, we'll probably more than likely have a, we'll have a pretty good shot at getting that grant.

651
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,079
Probably more than likely.

652
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,440
A lot of times, the Village Center applies to the Village Center.

653
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,579
We did.

654
00:33:36,579 --> 00:33:38,519
So we made that decision before.

655
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:40,119
Two or three years ago, when you were on there?

656
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:40,440
Yep.

657
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,279
For, yeah.

658
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:46,920
So, can, how come, I mean, why would you forego this financing?

659
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,880
I'm sorry, I'm stuck on it.

660
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Why wouldn't you just go forward with a finance contingency and use the money, or rainy day money, at the back end?

661
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,920
I mean, if you give up, I have a tough time.

662
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,579
I mean, money in the bank's money in the bank.

663
00:34:01,579 --> 00:34:05,119
It should be, rainy day fund is there for a reason.

664
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:07,480
Why not go through the financing?

665
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,280
Why not secure something?

666
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,179
You don't have to sign at the end of the day.

667
00:34:12,179 --> 00:34:15,139
You don't, you can back away from that.

668
00:34:15,139 --> 00:34:17,780
Why would you do that, if that's all we have?

669
00:34:17,780 --> 00:34:24,940
I can only speak for myself, but my opinion would be to try to lessen the burden on you, as taxpayers.

670
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:26,940
Either way, you're going to have a loan.

671
00:34:26,940 --> 00:34:29,650
Either way, you're going to have a loan.

672
00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:36,969
And it's, it's less expensive to get your primary financing than secondary financing.

673
00:34:36,969 --> 00:34:48,019
We're asking, we're asking for the financing from the bank for renovation, and that interest rate is about the same as getting the primary.

674
00:34:48,019 --> 00:34:53,780
We would still use the equity from the building, if we, if we ended up buying it.

675
00:34:53,780 --> 00:35:05,349
And that, again, is, to me, as a business person, it is much better to spend money under your pillow, and then hold on to it for years.

676
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:17,750
And a dollar bill goes down every year, and the last four years, it's gone between nine and 15% less buying power, that dollar bill, because you get no money for it.

677
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:20,519
You'll just know what it is today.

678
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:21,579
Exactly.

679
00:35:21,579 --> 00:35:23,780
No, it's in finance now.

680
00:35:23,780 --> 00:35:30,280
If you, I, I've been on the side of finding.

681
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,480
I take a loan out every five years.

682
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,320
Yeah, I get it.

683
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,980
That's 35 years, I think.

684
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:37,519
I just think, as a community, we should hold on to our money.

685
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:38,780
My, my opinion.

686
00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:39,739
I disagree.

687
00:35:39,739 --> 00:35:40,619
That's fine.

688
00:35:40,619 --> 00:35:46,210
$32,660 in one fund.

689
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:47,710
That's the Future Leads Fund.

690
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:53,710
It's been sitting there for quite a few years, probably, because we used some for broadband.

691
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:55,309
What is the rating day for?

692
00:35:55,309 --> 00:36:16,599
We used some to build this addition, and it was all, all this money was received from the sale of Alpenwald Lots when we had the big tax sale out in the gym, and probably in 2006, I think that might be it.

693
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:18,019
2006.

694
00:36:18,019 --> 00:36:20,519
Maybe the money from the Grange that was sold back then.

695
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:23,920
That's, no, I don't know where that went.

696
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,719
That's not in there.

697
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,519
That's before my time, so that's not in there.

698
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:29,519
Okay, good.

699
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:44,300
I think at one time from the sale of the Alpenwald, we had probably 100,000 or so, and like I said, it went for this addition, broadband, and I think it was something else that we used it for.

700
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:47,849
I have to go back and tell reports and see that.

701
00:36:47,849 --> 00:36:49,610
So you were telling about the funds.

702
00:36:49,610 --> 00:36:50,849
So that's a 32 there.

703
00:36:50,849 --> 00:36:51,849
Mm-hmm.

704
00:36:51,849 --> 00:36:56,429
The other one is the invested funds.

705
00:36:56,429 --> 00:36:59,429
We have about 161,000 in that.

706
00:36:59,429 --> 00:37:07,750
That fund is from when people sold their land to National Forest.

707
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:09,750
We lost money.

708
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:22,320
So the select board at that time in the late 80s, mid-80s, asked the person that was selling their land to please give us some money in lieu of taxes.

709
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,320
Okay.

710
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,320
And that's what we're losing.

711
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:39,059
I don't know if the National Forest was structured, if they structured their payments to the town back then, or if we, I don't know what we did, but the selectman asked for money.

712
00:37:39,059 --> 00:37:41,059
It was put in there.

713
00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:47,059
Every year, Lori takes money out of these, out of this account to help reduce your taxes.

714
00:37:47,059 --> 00:37:49,059
And what do you usually take out?

715
00:37:49,059 --> 00:37:50,059
Five?

716
00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:51,059
8,000?

717
00:37:51,059 --> 00:37:52,059
I take out the interest.

718
00:37:52,059 --> 00:37:53,059
The interest.

719
00:37:53,059 --> 00:37:54,059
The interest.

720
00:37:54,059 --> 00:37:59,059
So there will be an impact when you remove that money from an invested fund.

721
00:37:59,059 --> 00:38:00,059
You'll pay taxes on that.

722
00:38:00,059 --> 00:38:01,059
Right.

723
00:38:01,059 --> 00:38:02,059
We'll pay taxes on it?

724
00:38:02,059 --> 00:38:03,059
No.

725
00:38:03,059 --> 00:38:04,059
It's in the money market.

726
00:38:04,059 --> 00:38:05,059
Right.

727
00:38:05,059 --> 00:38:08,059
But you're, yeah, but she does in lieu of taxes.

728
00:38:08,059 --> 00:38:09,059
It does.

729
00:38:09,059 --> 00:38:10,059
In lieu of your, to help you.

730
00:38:10,059 --> 00:38:11,059
The interest.

731
00:38:11,059 --> 00:38:12,059
I understand.

732
00:38:12,059 --> 00:38:13,059
Yeah.

733
00:38:13,059 --> 00:38:14,059
But a lot less money then if we borrow.

734
00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:15,059
But it's not invested.

735
00:38:15,059 --> 00:38:16,059
9%, right?

736
00:38:16,059 --> 00:38:17,059
We have to pay taxes on whatever.

737
00:38:17,059 --> 00:38:18,059
No.

738
00:38:18,059 --> 00:38:23,059
It was at one time we were really getting good, good money for that.

739
00:38:23,059 --> 00:38:24,059
Yeah.

740
00:38:24,059 --> 00:38:25,059
But it can't, a town can't do that.

741
00:38:25,059 --> 00:38:26,059
We have to be more secure.

742
00:38:26,059 --> 00:38:27,059
But we learn these things over the years.

743
00:38:27,059 --> 00:38:28,059
Is there anything left after you buy the building that is approved?

744
00:38:28,059 --> 00:38:29,090
Is there anything left?

745
00:38:29,090 --> 00:38:30,090
No.

746
00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:31,090
No.

747
00:38:31,090 --> 00:38:32,090
The closing costs are probably.

748
00:38:32,090 --> 00:38:33,090
It was a lot there.

749
00:38:33,090 --> 00:38:34,090
Because we figure inspection costs, attorney closing fee, transfer tax due to the state.

750
00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:35,090
What did we come up with?

751
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:36,090
192 or something like that.

752
00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:37,090
Well, then you have to have a letter of counsel.

753
00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:38,090
That's right.

754
00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:39,090
That's right.

755
00:38:39,090 --> 00:38:40,090
That's right.

756
00:38:40,090 --> 00:38:41,090
That's right.

757
00:38:41,090 --> 00:38:42,090
That's right.

758
00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:43,090
That's right.

759
00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:44,119
That's right.

760
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,119
That's right.

761
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:46,119
That's right.

762
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:47,119
That's right.

763
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:48,119
That's right.

764
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:49,119
That's right.

765
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,119
That's right.

766
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,119
That's right.

767
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,119
That's right.

768
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:53,119
Yeah.

769
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:54,119
That's right.

770
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:55,119
That's right.

771
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:56,119
That's right.

772
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:57,119
Yeah.

773
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,119
That's right.

774
00:38:58,119 --> 00:38:59,119
All right.

775
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:00,119
You have a letter of counsel.

776
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:01,119
I think you have a letter of counsel.

777
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:02,119
That's not going to be enough.

778
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:03,599
The micro blast that we had on Clendon's Road that some other people experienced in.

779
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:04,599
If we've had an emergency, what money do we have left to deal with it?

780
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:05,599
When this building lifted of its foundation.

781
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:06,599
Insurance.

782
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:07,599
Insurance.

783
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:08,599
Yeah.

784
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:09,599
Just saying.

785
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:10,599
Everything's insuring.

786
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:11,599
Yep.

787
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:12,599
We may have a warming center, potentially, because we .

788
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:13,599
We'll let them know that they're going to move around, everything is insured.

789
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:14,599
OK.

790
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:15,599
Yeah.

791
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:16,599
Yeah.

792
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:17,599
Thank you.

793
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:18,599
Yeah.

794
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:19,599
Great.

795
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:20,599
Thank you.

796
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:21,599
No problem.

797
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,639
And that building is not in the floodplain.

798
00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:25,780
Some of the land in the back is, but that thing is not.

799
00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:29,980
One thing I think, and I would like to put this as public knowledge,

800
00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:37,659
is the building wasn't taxable, but it was insured for the value that the insurance company said was $356,000.

801
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,420
So that number shows.

802
00:39:41,659 --> 00:39:42,699
There's an opinion.

803
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,199
I think the church voted for a lot less than we could have voted for.

804
00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:48,960
But that's just an opinion on my side.

805
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,840
Like, it just seems like it was a pretty fair price for the church to put it out there.

806
00:39:55,179 --> 00:40:00,099
But, you know, if you look at what buildings are selling for in this town right now,

807
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:06,489
and you guys all got your evaluations, that building will be definitely bagged more than $175,000.

808
00:40:07,889 --> 00:40:09,409
How much property is that guy?

809
00:40:09,630 --> 00:40:11,210
About $40,000.

810
00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:14,289
And down in the back is beautiful.

811
00:40:14,969 --> 00:40:16,409
Last week I walked it.

812
00:40:16,670 --> 00:40:19,869
It was the first time in 55 years that I walked.

813
00:40:19,949 --> 00:40:23,559
Down in the back, beautiful land, right to the river.

814
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,139
It's kind of flat, but, I mean, if you have a flood, it's going to come up.

815
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:40,159
As money-wise, you know, you say envision, but what am I, when I was looking at whether or not we were going to sign this,

816
00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:46,619
if everything went through, the inspector said, hey, there's very minimal things that happened.

817
00:40:48,329 --> 00:40:50,429
So it wasn't this big box.

818
00:40:50,530 --> 00:40:52,750
If it was a big box, we probably wouldn't go forward anyway.

819
00:40:53,030 --> 00:41:02,670
But if we went, let's just say we put $50,000 into renovations, just to bring it up to, you know, par, I don't know what codes are or not or anything,

820
00:41:02,829 --> 00:41:10,039
but if we did that, and a year goes by and we said, look, nobody's using this, we're not going to,

821
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:14,199
if we put that up for sale, and I don't feel we're going to lose anything.

822
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:22,199
And I just think that if you look at just the history of Stanford, you know, places are selling, I mean,

823
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:25,500
they're putting things on harvester, selling in two days, you know.

824
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:30,039
So I just think that it's a good investment down the road, you know.

825
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:36,019
That would be my opinion on the board, is that it's a good idea to purchase it.

826
00:41:36,019 --> 00:41:39,119
You know, we know there's two other bids.

827
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:40,460
They must have thought the same thing.

828
00:41:41,860 --> 00:41:42,900
One last question.

829
00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:49,320
If a private enterprise made a proposal to put, say, a coffee shop in there,

830
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,360
would that be something that would be entertained?

831
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:52,599
Yes.

832
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,280
By the board, would that be thrown into the mix of possible uses?

833
00:41:57,519 --> 00:41:59,300
The town could lease space.

834
00:41:59,539 --> 00:42:01,639
That's what I'm asking.

835
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,780
Because I don't know the other side of the space.

836
00:42:04,059 --> 00:42:06,000
Whether it's dual use or.

837
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:09,699
That's probably one of the things that could happen in there.

838
00:42:09,699 --> 00:42:12,599
I mean, we're not even there yet.

839
00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:17,090
That's not out of the realm of possibility.

840
00:42:17,929 --> 00:42:19,250
That's a good idea, actually.

841
00:42:20,670 --> 00:42:22,610
Is the inspection due to happen?

842
00:42:23,869 --> 00:42:24,030
Soon?

843
00:42:24,449 --> 00:42:24,670
Yeah.

844
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:29,289
So what will we all get a copy of that report?

845
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:35,179
Is it be interesting to see on our end?

846
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,099
I don't know that, probably.

847
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,400
Well, Mike said that it wouldn't be shared with the others.

848
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
That's in the best interest of the town right now.

849
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,619
I don't know that.

850
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,179
Because if that copy got out to the other bidders, you know, they know.

851
00:42:50,179 --> 00:42:53,000
I don't know if that's fair to the church to do that.

852
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,039
But, I mean.

853
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,090
I think that if there's a, I think that the people should know what the expense would be.

854
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:08,360
At least the estimates of what they find, what the cost might be.

855
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,719
If this, you know, if they come back and they say this is going to be $500,000 to renovate this, you know.

856
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:12,840
Yeah.

857
00:43:13,139 --> 00:43:14,019
That's just a little bit.

858
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:15,380
But I think.

859
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,840
Experts don't usually do that, though.

860
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:17,860
They just say what's wrong.

861
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,079
Well, that's what I was going to ask.

862
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:19,340
Yeah.

863
00:43:20,059 --> 00:43:21,019
Yeah, they don't.

864
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:23,099
Let's just say that the.

865
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:26,539
Sore needs to get replaced.

866
00:43:26,659 --> 00:43:28,460
And let's just say it's more than $40,000.

867
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:30,780
Let's go $60,000, right?

868
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,900
So that's $60,000.

869
00:43:32,159 --> 00:43:32,760
That's a lot of money.

870
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:35,500
And then they say you've got to put an artesian well in.

871
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,639
That's another $15,000, $20,000.

872
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:43,119
So now you're up to $80,000 before you do any carpentry work, you know.

873
00:43:43,179 --> 00:43:46,099
So then we can look at it and say, this is getting too much.

874
00:43:46,420 --> 00:43:51,940
Do we have somebody in mind that's going to, I mean, I'm sure the attorney or whomever.

875
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:55,000
I just know that when Poundell went through all of.

876
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,980
You know, when they bought, did they build a new center?

877
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:02,539
It was, I think, in excess of a million dollars.

878
00:44:02,539 --> 00:44:11,599
So for us to bring a municipal building up to ADA compliancy, I can only imagine the expense.

879
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,460
I know people who have had to go through it just to add an apartment down in Massachusetts.

880
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:17,559
Different.

881
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,480
But, you know, sprinkler system isn't cheap.

882
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:24,619
Your insurance rate, of course, goes up once you put sprinklers in.

883
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,019
So all of these.

884
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:32,019
These things, I mean, we have such a small time to get these numbers together before the meeting.

885
00:44:32,179 --> 00:44:33,440
And we all have to know.

886
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:35,239
And it's got to get out to the townspeople.

887
00:44:35,420 --> 00:44:35,860
They have to.

888
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,139
Sure.

889
00:44:36,420 --> 00:44:37,679
That's what I said in the beginning.

890
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,719
And so do you have people lined up?

891
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,380
Because the inspection contingency is kind of short.

892
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:47,639
November.

893
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,239
We can ask also for extra time any time we want.

894
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,780
They actually said to us, just give them a call and they will change that.

895
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:57,039
I think they want to work with us.

896
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:03,599
If the inspection took longer or if it took longer for us to get those contractors to give us the bids and we find that out.

897
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:06,019
You can't ask contractors until you find out what you need.

898
00:45:06,099 --> 00:45:06,320
Right.

899
00:45:06,619 --> 00:45:08,719
We can call the church and put it right in there.

900
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,420
They said they would put whatever we need in there as long as we're moving forward.

901
00:45:13,179 --> 00:45:17,000
So the realtor was wonderful.

902
00:45:18,179 --> 00:45:20,260
But she's not looking out for your interest.

903
00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:21,599
She's looking out for.

904
00:45:21,659 --> 00:45:23,059
She's looking out for the Catholic.

905
00:45:23,579 --> 00:45:23,980
Yeah.

906
00:45:24,179 --> 00:45:25,820
She's looking out for the church.

907
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:26,239
Well.

908
00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:27,400
So I guess that's not true.

909
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:31,460
It's still, she's still not representing you.

910
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:32,360
Oh, no, I understand.

911
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,579
Yeah.

912
00:45:32,739 --> 00:45:36,480
So she may be sweet and kind, but beware.

913
00:45:36,699 --> 00:45:36,840
Yeah.

914
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:37,320
Yeah.

915
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:38,920
Some realtors can do that.

916
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,800
I understand.

917
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:47,420
So you're, I'm just going to ask you this, the inspectors, they will tell us what is wrong.

918
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,420
They will, they will identify issues that you should be aware of.

919
00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:56,500
And then we would get our own contractor in.

920
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:58,559
How much to bring this electric?

921
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:07,690
How much for ADA, how much for septic, water, or you could go back to the diocese and say,

922
00:46:07,690 --> 00:46:09,530
you know what, it's going to cost us X amount.

923
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:12,730
Yeah, let's reduce the price by this amount.

924
00:46:12,730 --> 00:46:17,769
That's actually what I did when I put my sewer in, I said to the bot or the seller, I said,

925
00:46:17,769 --> 00:46:23,110
look, it's going to cost me $28,000, which was the middle bid, not the high bid, not the low bid.

926
00:46:23,110 --> 00:46:26,849
It was, but it was A1 and that was my buddy and I wanted him to do it.

927
00:46:27,389 --> 00:46:28,809
And I said, this is what it's going to cost.

928
00:46:28,809 --> 00:46:32,599
And the seller said, no problem.

929
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:34,900
You can't sell it when you, until you do that anyway.

930
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:35,719
So they had to do it.

931
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,820
Well, you can sell it if you don't have cash, cash, absolutely.

932
00:46:39,820 --> 00:46:41,599
Who would want, who would want to put a sewer in.

933
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,460
So they did it.

934
00:46:44,460 --> 00:46:44,960
No problem.

935
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,820
Okay.

936
00:46:46,219 --> 00:46:51,329
Can we move on to the Warren article, which one do we want?

937
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:55,670
So the town, so the voters of the town of Stanford authorized the purchase of the former St.

938
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:59,949
John Bosco church building located at 818 Main Road, Stanford for the price of $175,000.

939
00:47:00,889 --> 00:47:07,159
We don't want to authorize, we don't want to authorize border wing because we don't want the border wing in there.

940
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:07,659
Right?

941
00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:08,940
Right.

942
00:47:08,940 --> 00:47:14,880
These are a variety of different articles that the, I think we want articles, third article.

943
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,019
Even though we've done a four for the borrowing or something that more down to exceed $100,000.

944
00:47:19,019 --> 00:47:23,880
But the first, I think what we want for the first article is the third article, one down.

945
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,840
So this one, this one, this one, the shortage.

946
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,960
So the town of Stanford purchased the former St.

947
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,480
John Bosco building located at 818 Main Road.

948
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,219
For the price of $175,000, yes or no, if it's no, we're done.

949
00:47:36,219 --> 00:47:36,719
Paul.

950
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,380
Okay.

951
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,219
Right.

952
00:47:38,260 --> 00:47:38,980
Yes, ma'am.

953
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:39,579
Okay.

954
00:47:39,579 --> 00:47:44,260
Whatever you say, I'll be there and I am going to request paper ballot.

955
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:49,599
So we know, I just don't understand why you would not sign that first one.

956
00:47:49,659 --> 00:47:49,960
Sorry.

957
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,460
I'm hung up on that mortgage.

958
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,059
You don't have to go through with it, but now you're taking that away.

959
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,159
You're taking that out of the equation.

960
00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:59,679
It doesn't mean you have to finance it.

961
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,420
If the voters vote.

962
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,340
You have to finance it through a mortgage.

963
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,539
You have to do it.

964
00:48:04,539 --> 00:48:05,139
That's the vote I vote.

965
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,480
Yeah.

966
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,139
That's it.

967
00:48:06,139 --> 00:48:07,380
They, then they can't.

968
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:09,480
If the voters tell you to do it that way, you got to do it that way.

969
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:15,539
I just don't want to see every penny that we have in security, but that's me.

970
00:48:15,539 --> 00:48:17,599
You want to do half of that, pay half of it in finance?

971
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:18,280
No, don't.

972
00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:18,760
No.

973
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,719
I'm just, it's just my security.

974
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,719
Do it the way you're doing it.

975
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,079
Yeah.

976
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:28,719
We have, we have insurance for any building, any truck, any vehicle that we have in town.

977
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:29,980
We have insurance for all that.

978
00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:31,719
We have insurance for the contents of the building.

979
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:38,440
The town garage and the top contents of this place, any emergency that can foresee that

980
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,489
the generator went out, the school has money, right?

981
00:48:42,489 --> 00:48:47,710
So I just don't see any emergency that we would need at this point that we wouldn't

982
00:48:47,710 --> 00:48:51,369
be able to go to bank and borrow money and be back in that same situation.

983
00:48:52,110 --> 00:48:55,869
And borrowing money from these accounts, we borrowed it for the fire truck.

984
00:48:55,869 --> 00:48:58,610
We borrowed it to pay for our own vehicles.

985
00:48:59,190 --> 00:49:02,309
I paid back a quarter million dollars on a hundred, you know,

986
00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:05,050
a hundred and something thousand, a few more than that.

987
00:49:05,050 --> 00:49:12,880
You'll be doubling the money, you know, that over five years, just to me, the interest rates

988
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,840
are too high at this time.

989
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,840
I mean, we can very well, by the time we sign it and do it, it could be eight, nine percent.

990
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,739
Why do you even get that far?

991
00:49:22,739 --> 00:49:26,980
I don't think, you know, if the townspeople don't want it, I don't think we have to worry

992
00:49:26,980 --> 00:49:28,369
about that.

993
00:49:28,369 --> 00:49:34,489
Personally, I just think that it's financially responsible to not borrow money and not have

994
00:49:34,489 --> 00:49:40,309
to pay that much back versus the dollar in your, like you said, you put a dollar in

995
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:43,800
your pillow, you know, that dollar goes away.

996
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,400
I mean, think about it, you know?

997
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,400
I agree.

998
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,400
You guys put a dollar in your pillow when you were 18.

999
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,400
How much is it?

1000
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,400
You've got buying power now.

1001
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,400
You could get a whole tank of gas back then.

1002
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,400
Taxes took it all the way in.

1003
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,400
Exactly.

1004
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,400
There you go.

1005
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,099
So somebody's making money.

1006
00:49:59,099 --> 00:50:03,320
So where are we going with the third article?

1007
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,320
Third article number two.

1008
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,320
Third article number one.

1009
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,320
Yeah.

1010
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,320
Yeah.

1011
00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:09,460
All in favor?

1012
00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:10,809
Aye.

1013
00:50:10,809 --> 00:50:11,809
All in favor?

1014
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:12,809
Aye.

1015
00:50:12,809 --> 00:50:14,059
Okay.

1016
00:50:14,059 --> 00:50:15,059
Then article two.

1017
00:50:15,059 --> 00:50:17,539
So we're going to buy it.

1018
00:50:17,539 --> 00:50:18,539
Now we've got to come up with the money.

1019
00:50:18,539 --> 00:50:19,539
Shall the Town of Stanford release and replete the Balance in the Future Needs Fund, estimated

1020
00:50:19,539 --> 00:50:20,539
to be $32,660 for the use and purchase price?

1021
00:50:20,539 --> 00:50:21,539
Motion.

1022
00:50:21,539 --> 00:50:22,539
For use toward the purchase.

1023
00:50:22,539 --> 00:50:23,539
This, um, what's that word?

1024
00:50:23,539 --> 00:50:24,539
You want to change it?

1025
00:50:24,539 --> 00:50:25,539
Toward?

1026
00:50:25,539 --> 00:50:26,539
No.

1027
00:50:26,539 --> 00:50:27,539
Toward what?

1028
00:50:27,539 --> 00:50:28,539
Toward what?

1029
00:50:28,539 --> 00:50:29,539
Toward what?

1030
00:50:29,539 --> 00:50:30,599
Toward what?

1031
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:31,599
Toward what?

1032
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:32,599
Toward what?

1033
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:33,699
Toward what?

1034
00:50:33,699 --> 00:50:34,699
Toward what?

1035
00:50:34,699 --> 00:50:35,699
Toward what?

1036
00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:36,699
Toward what?

1037
00:50:36,699 --> 00:50:38,340
Toward what?

1038
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:39,340
Toward what?

1039
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:40,340
Toward what?

1040
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:41,340
Toward what?

1041
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:42,340
Toward what?

1042
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:43,340
Toward what?

1043
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:44,340
Toward what?

1044
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:45,340
Toward what?

1045
00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:46,340
Toward what?

1046
00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:47,340
Toward what?

1047
00:50:47,340 --> 00:50:48,340
Toward what?

1048
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:49,340
Toward what?

1049
00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:50,340
Toward what?

1050
00:50:50,340 --> 00:50:53,059
What?

1051
00:50:53,059 --> 00:50:54,059
g.

1052
00:50:54,059 --> 00:50:55,059
Oh.

1053
00:50:55,059 --> 00:50:56,059
Peering center?

1054
00:50:56,059 --> 00:51:01,860
Yeah, yeah..

1055
00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:02,860
No, no, that's okay, right?

1056
00:51:02,860 --> 00:51:03,860
Yeah.

1057
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:04,860
Toward the.....just take out for use?

1058
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:05,860
Just take that out for the burge price?

1059
00:51:05,860 --> 00:51:06,860
Yeah.

1060
00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:07,860
We have to say release and replete because this Fund was set up, the Select Four could

1061
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:11,579
not just spend it willy nilly however you wanted it, it had to be at a Tellett Supervisor.

1062
00:51:11,579 --> 00:51:12,579
Motion.

1063
00:51:12,579 --> 00:51:13,579
Second.

1064
00:51:13,579 --> 00:51:15,579
All in favor?

1065
00:51:15,579 --> 00:51:17,190
Aye.

1066
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:18,190
Shall the Town of...

1067
00:51:18,190 --> 00:51:25,849
The town of Stanford released up to $155,000 from the investment funds towards the purchase price.

1068
00:51:25,849 --> 00:51:34,050
And that $155,000 will hopefully include the inspection,

1069
00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:39,869
the closing fee, transfer tax due to the state, reporting fee.

1070
00:51:39,869 --> 00:51:41,369
So I have a question on that.

1071
00:51:41,369 --> 00:51:45,369
We can waive the reporting fee.

1072
00:51:45,369 --> 00:51:47,909
Okay, but I have a question on this though.

1073
00:51:47,909 --> 00:51:49,849
I'm just part of that.

1074
00:51:49,849 --> 00:51:52,369
We're getting that inspection, we have to pay that anyways.

1075
00:51:52,369 --> 00:51:59,519
If this is up going to the common vote, where's the money coming from for the inspection in the first place?

1076
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:04,119
Comes out of select board budget, and it's not in the line item, so-

1077
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,079
Right, so it's going to be over budget.

1078
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:06,880
On that one.

1079
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,920
On that one, okay.

1080
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,719
One line item.

1081
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,000
You don't always put-

1082
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,219
People know that we're doing this, but we have to use money.

1083
00:52:14,219 --> 00:52:16,679
We look for extra money in-

1084
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:17,639
That was my question.

1085
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:18,139
We're-

1086
00:52:18,139 --> 00:52:21,980
Yeah, well, the inspection money, we're going to have to pay it before this goes to a vote.

1087
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:26,320
So if the vote is no, we're out with inspection money.

1088
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,800
What kind of septic inspection are you going to do?

1089
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,300
I am not sure.

1090
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:30,300
Basic one.

1091
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:33,289
Basic?

1092
00:52:33,289 --> 00:52:38,000
If one or two pass, but three doesn't, what happens?

1093
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,159
We don't have the money.

1094
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:39,760
Oh yeah.

1095
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,630
We can't buy it.

1096
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:42,289
Okay.

1097
00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:43,469
So it kills-

1098
00:52:43,469 --> 00:52:45,269
It's just contingent to the finance.

1099
00:52:45,269 --> 00:52:48,889
And if we don't have the money, if you guys don't pass the money, we can't buy it.

1100
00:52:48,889 --> 00:52:50,010
We go back to the .

1101
00:52:50,010 --> 00:52:52,110
Well, wait a minute, that's right.

1102
00:52:52,110 --> 00:52:53,650
So if our number one passes-

1103
00:52:53,650 --> 00:52:55,190
There's your finance problem right there.

1104
00:52:55,190 --> 00:53:00,510
People say we want to buy it, the 175, they say yes, but they don't finance it.

1105
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:01,530
We can't buy that.

1106
00:53:01,530 --> 00:53:03,309
We tell them we can't buy it.

1107
00:53:03,309 --> 00:53:05,530
Swap the order and pull them off the end.

1108
00:53:05,530 --> 00:53:07,769
So you guys are doing a Title V inspection?

1109
00:53:07,769 --> 00:53:10,570
I'm not doing a Title V inspection.

1110
00:53:10,570 --> 00:53:14,889
I know it's not required in Vermont, but I'm just asking it so you know.

1111
00:53:14,889 --> 00:53:18,090
You all want more?

1112
00:53:18,090 --> 00:53:19,050
Yeah.

1113
00:53:19,050 --> 00:53:19,449
Why?

1114
00:53:19,449 --> 00:53:25,130
I agree to pay 175, and I don't have funds to pay it.

1115
00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:28,789
I know Article 2 has to be a separate warrant because that is-

1116
00:53:28,789 --> 00:53:29,889
We got to release the money.

1117
00:53:29,889 --> 00:53:30,909
We have to release that.

1118
00:53:30,909 --> 00:53:34,210
Article 2 must be separate, just by the way that-

1119
00:53:34,210 --> 00:53:35,809
But 155, not so much.

1120
00:53:35,809 --> 00:53:36,570
No, so-

1121
00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:37,889
So you could wrap that in-

1122
00:53:37,889 --> 00:53:44,210
I just don't think it's really, yeah, I mean, either way we have to, if you're going to all vote to buy it,

1123
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:48,610
and you vote not to have the financing, that was fun, let's have it, you know.

1124
00:53:49,449 --> 00:53:54,010
You can't really take money out of the invested funds without having to vote.

1125
00:53:54,010 --> 00:54:00,130
Right, right, so I mean, either way, you can put it in, it doesn't matter to me, you know.

1126
00:54:00,130 --> 00:54:05,969
If everybody goes there and votes yes and doesn't vote for the financing, and you know that you can't do it without,

1127
00:54:05,969 --> 00:54:12,210
you buy it without the financing, you know, shame on you guys, we'll go out and have a beer or whatever.

1128
00:54:12,210 --> 00:54:16,449
We can add that to the sign from, oh, I should not have mentioned that, I'm sorry.

1129
00:54:16,449 --> 00:54:18,349
We're not going to say that word anymore.

1130
00:54:19,449 --> 00:54:25,239
So does that make sense here, what we're doing, one, two, and three?

1131
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,719
Yes.

1132
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,880
Laurie, yes?

1133
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:33,190
Oh, I was looking for inspection information on the subject system.

1134
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:38,030
What they, and I don't know anything about 205, what this one would do is-

1135
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:39,710
It's just a little camera that goes in.

1136
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:46,869
It would provide a scope that goes from the building to the main, to the tank, to the D box slash leased field-

1137
00:54:46,869 --> 00:54:48,710
So, yeah, that's, that's a-

1138
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:49,349
That's a full-

1139
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:52,829
That's a $900 inspection, right there.

1140
00:54:52,829 --> 00:54:54,750
Well, that's what, that's what we're getting.

1141
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:57,150
Okay, so it's not a simple one.

1142
00:54:57,150 --> 00:54:58,190
That, that's a title.

1143
00:54:58,190 --> 00:55:00,190
Just a company called it a basic.

1144
00:55:00,190 --> 00:55:00,710
Yeah.

1145
00:55:00,710 --> 00:55:01,429
Maybe that's all they do.

1146
00:55:01,429 --> 00:55:03,550
They're, they're regular inspectors.

1147
00:55:03,550 --> 00:55:05,190
Okay.

1148
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:07,550
Who's doing the inspections?

1149
00:55:07,550 --> 00:55:10,750
Norway Hill Home Inspectors.

1150
00:55:10,750 --> 00:55:15,099
And he does both, or they do, they do the septic?

1151
00:55:15,099 --> 00:55:15,619
Yes.

1152
00:55:15,619 --> 00:55:18,579
And is the water going out for testing?

1153
00:55:18,579 --> 00:55:19,539
They will be doing-

1154
00:55:19,539 --> 00:55:22,440
They will be doing that.

1155
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,639
So, we will know if we-

1156
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:28,050
The search will be on with the basic, okay.

1157
00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:36,289
Foundation structure, roof, portraits, decks, electrical, plumbing, windows, doors, heating, AC, appliances that are permanently installed.

1158
00:55:36,289 --> 00:55:36,929
Big company.

1159
00:55:36,929 --> 00:55:39,079
Yard drainage.

1160
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:40,539
Oh, good.

1161
00:55:40,539 --> 00:55:41,219
Drainage.

1162
00:55:41,219 --> 00:55:42,619
Garage.

1163
00:55:42,619 --> 00:55:43,780
Let's fix that.

1164
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:46,539
Yeah.

1165
00:55:46,539 --> 00:55:50,460
Hey, you're happy, you should be happy, you got water right now, it's so dry out there.

1166
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:50,900
There's a lot of water.

1167
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:51,900
There's a lot of water.

1168
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:52,099
There's a lot of water.

1169
00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:53,420
There's no water.

1170
00:55:53,420 --> 00:55:53,820
No.

1171
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:55,019
You have a shower well?

1172
00:55:55,019 --> 00:55:55,619
Yeah.

1173
00:55:55,619 --> 00:55:56,539
Oh, you still-

1174
00:55:56,539 --> 00:56:01,739
It's still good, but when we get a storm, everything off that parking lot comes right to one another.

1175
00:56:01,739 --> 00:56:02,260
All good.

1176
00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:04,260
Yeah.

1177
00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:17,980
I'm really confused about this financing business, because the town votes to buy the building, but then we, and there will be results of an inspection, right?

1178
00:56:17,980 --> 00:56:22,219
Does the town vote on whether that...

1179
00:56:22,219 --> 00:56:23,340
Those costs?

1180
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:24,300
That's coming.

1181
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:27,300
That's coming in the $100,000 we're asking for.

1182
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:29,519
That will exceed the $100,000.

1183
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:35,000
Again, if these inspections come and they're way over this $100,000, we're going to let you know that.

1184
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:45,400
I mean, we're not going to, you know, going forward, I would think that this board, and I'm just speaking for myself, not the whole board, if it comes in at $400 million, I don't see us buying that.

1185
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,480
And that'll be before the vote, we could cancel the board, we could cancel the town meeting, or...

1186
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,480
Yeah, we could pull all of this stuff out.

1187
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,159
Yeah, that's good.

1188
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:55,400
That's going to be probably contingent on the inspection as soon as the inspection comes in.

1189
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,000
We have a contingency for the inspection.

1190
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:13,400
If this comes back and we go, boy, we've got to put all this in there, we don't need, I mean, just by, you know, common sense, we know that a sewer's going to cost in that ballpark, and we know that a well's going to cost this much.

1191
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:21,280
If they come in and say, oh, look it, you've got a, you know, hazardous waste or something in the building, then that's going to cost $100,000.

1192
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,000
Yes.

1193
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,239
You know, those type of things, we can just say, we're out.

1194
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,679
We don't want to get involved in it.

1195
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:27,980
And then the meeting would not happen?

1196
00:57:27,980 --> 00:57:29,280
No, that would be it.

1197
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,539
The warrant issue would be trashed?

1198
00:57:30,539 --> 00:57:32,559
No, everything would be in our own void, yep.

1199
00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:35,000
That's what the board would be watching.

1200
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,179
Have you decided what number that is?

1201
00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:48,039
Well, we don't, we know we don't want to go over $100,000 for renovation, so when we get that, if we're not sure, it'll be in the town meeting, and we'll be able to decide that.

1202
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,739
What about those estimates by then?

1203
00:57:50,739 --> 00:57:51,000
Yeah.

1204
00:57:51,000 --> 00:58:03,079
If we weren't sure, say it was $75,000, and we said, well, people, this is what it's going to cost just to renovate it, and it's $75,000 before we put any bells and whistles in this place, what do you think?

1205
00:58:03,139 --> 00:58:03,900
Should we move forward?

1206
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,340
Everybody might go, no.

1207
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,300
So, but will there be multiple bids?

1208
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:11,719
You know, then you have to go out to a contractor, you have to get multiple bids.

1209
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,920
But multiple bids are not necessary for the numbers at the town hall.

1210
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:18,880
Multiple bids are for getting a better deal later on.

1211
00:58:19,179 --> 00:58:20,820
You could take, look at it.

1212
00:58:20,820 --> 00:58:27,960
If I buy, if I buy material, Carl wants a job done, and I go, oh, I'm looking up, and my material guy says it's $1,000 for material.

1213
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,699
I tell him, job's $2,000.

1214
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:31,280
He says, deal.

1215
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:32,500
Gives me a purchase order.

1216
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:38,199
Then I go buy, and I ask the next deal guy, and he goes, hey, it's a $700 for the same material.

1217
00:58:38,539 --> 00:58:39,659
I don't go back and tell him.

1218
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,880
That's, that's my due diligence to make money.

1219
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,480
That's what we would do on the, if we got more than one contractor.

1220
00:58:46,699 --> 00:58:50,619
But for town hall, we know that at least one bidder.

1221
00:58:50,619 --> 00:58:54,019
It's going to cost as much, whether high or low, it doesn't matter.

1222
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:57,150
Correct.

1223
00:58:57,550 --> 00:58:59,030
So all the numbers will be.

1224
00:59:00,250 --> 00:59:04,010
We will get as many numbers as we can by town meeting.

1225
00:59:05,059 --> 00:59:05,260
Right.

1226
00:59:05,659 --> 00:59:09,780
But we, you know, I mean, if we want to get a better deal, that'd be great.

1227
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,039
But the townspeople might say, look it, we get two bids, and one guy goes out of business next year.

1228
00:59:15,179 --> 00:59:15,440
Right.

1229
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:18,400
So you want to go the high guy, you know.

1230
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,059
Who on the board, you guys are going to take this on?

1231
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,460
This is a lot of work, but if you want to help.

1232
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:28,960
We're hiring out people right now for these inspections, and then we're going to have to get contractors.

1233
00:59:29,139 --> 00:59:30,400
Well, you already are doing that.

1234
00:59:30,619 --> 00:59:33,000
We have people in mind, too, who are contractors.

1235
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:35,300
Townspeople, sub-townspeople.

1236
00:59:36,099 --> 00:59:37,500
They're our license insured.

1237
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:38,559
And we're not.

1238
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:41,820
Can I hire my son, even though he's probably the best carpenter in town?

1239
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,340
Do we not?

1240
00:59:42,659 --> 00:59:44,159
Can you put it out for bids?

1241
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:45,739
No, we're not going out for bids.

1242
00:59:45,739 --> 00:59:49,119
I'm thinking we're just going to ask them to come give us an estimate.

1243
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:50,639
We're not going out for bids.

1244
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:51,260
No, you don't need to.

1245
00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:51,840
You just need one.

1246
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,420
No, you don't need to.

1247
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:53,280
Bids for an estimate.

1248
00:59:53,539 --> 00:59:55,340
You just need this general ballpark.

1249
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:55,639
Right.

1250
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:59,639
You know, like I said, this is extraordinarily high.

1251
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,679
I think this board would go right back and say, that's it.

1252
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,199
I know I would push for that.

1253
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:04,739
I'm not going to.

1254
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,420
I don't want to go spend it in a million dollars, like Powell did.

1255
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,920
But they've got a, you know, a lot of building.

1256
01:00:12,340 --> 01:00:12,460
Yeah.

1257
01:00:12,699 --> 01:00:14,219
And that's huge.

1258
01:00:14,219 --> 01:00:16,539
And there's more people to add on to this building at that point.

1259
01:00:16,739 --> 01:00:20,139
Yeah, this building, you know, has what we call good bulbs.

1260
01:00:20,139 --> 01:00:22,019
Now, I've been through that.

1261
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,940
You know, my son has been through it because my son, we went down, we took all the pews

1262
01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:27,280
out of it.

1263
01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:28,420
So we know what it looks like.

1264
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,320
And it's a good building.

1265
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,139
Does it need good?

1266
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:31,960
Absolutely.

1267
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:33,039
Absolutely.

1268
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,920
Does it have to get up to 80 feet compliant?

1269
01:00:36,460 --> 01:00:37,940
You know, what does that entail?

1270
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:38,780
A ramp?

1271
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,500
Or does it entail more?

1272
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,440
You know, bathrooms?

1273
01:00:42,059 --> 01:00:43,219
You know, so we'll look at that.

1274
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:50,400
If it's open, you know, if it's going to be a, you know, educational system versus, you

1275
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,960
know, a senior center.

1276
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,719
It's a whole different ballgame, you know, but we can look into that down the road, you

1277
01:00:56,719 --> 01:01:03,599
know, third floor condemned at one time, not condemned, but not usable for the second floor.

1278
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:10,420
The second Bishop said we could not have catechism up there because of the way the rooms were

1279
01:01:10,420 --> 01:01:11,039
set up.

1280
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:13,380
There was no second fire escape.

1281
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:15,300
Fire escape comes there.

1282
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:19,599
So the one set of stairs goes out to the road.

1283
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,960
The other set of stairs brings you down.

1284
01:01:22,019 --> 01:01:23,400
Back into the building.

1285
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,000
And there was no central hallway upstairs.

1286
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,619
The rooms were like real.

1287
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:34,500
So one of the things that again, when you say in the vision, this is just me again.

1288
01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:42,059
Um, if I was going to renovate this for the town, I would just, you know, put all my energy

1289
01:01:42,059 --> 01:01:48,119
in the downstairs at this time, use the upstairs for storage, for our historical stuff and so on.

1290
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:50,519
I would go slow.

1291
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:51,940
Make sure we're going to use it.

1292
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,519
Before we put a lot of money into it and that I'm, I'm thinking downstairs and make some kind of

1293
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:59,400
center out of it for people with, you know, a social type of thing.

1294
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:00,960
See if it works.

1295
01:02:01,139 --> 01:02:06,960
If this isn't working, nobody's showing up, no one's using that, you know, is it feasible to keep paying

1296
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,260
for it and put it up for, you know, that's what I'm looking at.

1297
01:02:10,619 --> 01:02:14,719
Why would we go upstairs and start putting in, you know, a whole bunch of office space?

1298
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:20,519
Maybe we could like have a special office there.

1299
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:21,900
So you don't have to come in here.

1300
01:02:21,940 --> 01:02:24,139
We could eventually bring the town office.

1301
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,260
You know, I'm not saying we will.

1302
01:02:26,260 --> 01:02:29,820
I'm just saying there might be an office space available upstairs.

1303
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:35,090
It would be more private and it wouldn't be open to the public, you know, as in a butter.

1304
01:02:35,090 --> 01:02:37,070
And we love the deep problems.

1305
01:02:37,070 --> 01:02:38,389
Is the property going to be surveyed?

1306
01:02:40,139 --> 01:02:47,719
I haven't even, there is no, we, I know there is no survey and we haven't talked about surveying.

1307
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:51,719
It could have been a survey, if you want to survey yourself.

1308
01:02:52,960 --> 01:03:02,019
Yeah, I was kind of thinking the other way, I can't survey or I'll tell you not to use, I'll give you his name later.

1309
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:13,480
Laurie, back to the articles, would it make more sense to do article two first, article three, and then go down to purchasing the church building?

1310
01:03:14,500 --> 01:03:15,519
It's kind of sneaky.

1311
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:16,340
No, what do you think?

1312
01:03:16,340 --> 01:03:19,699
Are you going to vote for Mike to finance something that you haven't agreed to?

1313
01:03:19,699 --> 01:03:21,260
Yeah, I don't think so.

1314
01:03:21,260 --> 01:03:22,920
The order that you have is a good one.

1315
01:03:23,019 --> 01:03:32,800
But first the decision that you're going to go forward with buying it, two to release the money, and three to get it to against.

1316
01:03:33,539 --> 01:03:43,780
It just doesn't, it doesn't make sense, but I guess I've seen it, I thought I saw everything, but it doesn't make sense to power vote to pass this and not pass the budget.

1317
01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:45,719
I mean, it just, to me, I'm not.

1318
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:47,360
Well, stranger things have happened.

1319
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,460
Right, I thought I saw everything.

1320
01:03:50,460 --> 01:03:52,699
Somebody said we split.

1321
01:03:53,019 --> 01:04:02,400
And divide two and approve three, and give you the bulk of the money and tell you, we want to borrow the other $35,000.

1322
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:03,099
Yep.

1323
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:10,780
But that would be a no then, because you don't have, you're not doing the financing.

1324
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,000
No, it's a no, they're not doing financing.

1325
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,860
Add this, read number four.

1326
01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:17,719
Oh.

1327
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,280
That's really hard.

1328
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:20,679
Are we going to have, okay.

1329
01:04:21,099 --> 01:04:28,269
So number one says that we're voting on.

1330
01:04:28,550 --> 01:04:28,670
Yeah.

1331
01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:31,760
It says we're buying it, it doesn't say how we're financing it at the time.

1332
01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:32,119
Right.

1333
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:33,099
So it wouldn't be a no.

1334
01:04:33,139 --> 01:04:33,659
Donald Stanford.

1335
01:04:33,659 --> 01:04:45,070
So then the financing, if they did say that, we could add, we could put an amendment in, vote for an amendment to add that, borrow it, correct?

1336
01:04:45,469 --> 01:04:46,730
It's in there, in four.

1337
01:04:47,010 --> 01:04:47,469
Oh, four.

1338
01:04:47,809 --> 01:04:48,730
Yeah, four, in four.

1339
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:49,889
I pressed it, I didn't read it.

1340
01:04:50,909 --> 01:05:01,070
So Donald, Donald Stanford borrowed a sum that would not exceed $100,000 if article two and three are passed.

1341
01:05:01,070 --> 01:05:01,429
Or.

1342
01:05:01,570 --> 01:05:10,210
Or $288,000 if article two and three are not passed, we could put an amendment in there, or if article two is not passed, it's the difference.

1343
01:05:10,550 --> 01:05:15,409
Then you've got to change the purchase and sale, because it says it's not contingent upon financing.

1344
01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,900
Number seven, you've got to change it.

1345
01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:23,340
They don't have to change the purchase and sale if they don't use the contingency.

1346
01:05:23,579 --> 01:05:24,900
The contingency is in there.

1347
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,139
If they then go back and say, hold on, we're going to be, this is.

1348
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,639
The contingency is based on a convoy.

1349
01:05:31,659 --> 01:05:32,380
Hold for all.

1350
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,519
Doesn't say financing.

1351
01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:45,010
There is a number seven in there that says this purchase and sale is not subject to financing, period.

1352
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:47,349
So if you're going to introduce financing.

1353
01:05:48,769 --> 01:05:50,030
Yeah, number seven.

1354
01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:52,110
In the purchase and sale agreement.

1355
01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:56,980
And it's very clear.

1356
01:05:57,699 --> 01:05:59,579
That's what I was saying in the beginning.

1357
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:02,519
You signed saying you're not going to finance.

1358
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:03,239
I think.

1359
01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:04,260
I think.

1360
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:06,440
Number seven.

1361
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:20,420
So, so then you would lose your 10,000 if you came back and they could, they could be jerks about it if you came back to them and said, hey, we need to finance and they're like, sorry, you forfeit your your money.

1362
01:06:20,739 --> 01:06:21,239
Yeah.

1363
01:06:23,909 --> 01:06:36,409
So all I have to do is, or all we have to do is call them and say in the first contingency, put all vote voting of the purchase or financing on the purchase.

1364
01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:43,039
Have to be voted upon that come in if, if it voted down, then we can't do it.

1365
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:44,199
I'm just telling them to change that.

1366
01:06:45,250 --> 01:06:45,989
See the hard part.

1367
01:06:45,989 --> 01:06:56,340
And then you can buy it with cash and own it and then later finance a hundred, but that's just a cookie cutter.

1368
01:06:56,340 --> 01:07:03,019
Two and three are voted down and then, and then you end up financing the whole paper rule.

1369
01:07:04,369 --> 01:07:06,989
Now you've got time to wait for the bank.

1370
01:07:07,369 --> 01:07:09,090
I think the attorney did say something.

1371
01:07:09,130 --> 01:07:19,280
About financing in the, so we can just go back and change number seven to is instead of is not, and then we'll, we'll be covered.

1372
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,760
Correct.

1373
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,260
Right.

1374
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:26,179
And, but when I brought that up, you said, no, we can't, because you're trying to get it.

1375
01:07:26,179 --> 01:07:32,969
I mean, it's a catch 22 because you're trying to, you, you want it to be cash.

1376
01:07:32,969 --> 01:07:34,769
You want to use our rainy day, right?

1377
01:07:35,010 --> 01:07:36,989
So what did they have to do with number seven?

1378
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:40,409
Because now you're saying if one or two.

1379
01:07:40,409 --> 01:07:53,070
And three or one of two and three doesn't go through, you're throwing that financing contingency into the mix, which I'm looking at the contingency of saying the pound voters voting.

1380
01:07:53,070 --> 01:07:55,110
No, I would talk to the, okay.

1381
01:07:55,110 --> 01:08:01,710
So what I would do, well, I don't think you need to, I think you just need to tell us the church to put in the contingency.

1382
01:08:01,889 --> 01:08:09,750
If any of the voting goes, no, whether it's the financing or the purchase.

1383
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:10,349
Use the.

1384
01:08:10,409 --> 01:08:11,250
It's over.

1385
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:11,789
Yeah.

1386
01:08:12,650 --> 01:08:18,569
Townspeople vote no, which again, I don't see why you would vote yes and not finance it.

1387
01:08:19,630 --> 01:08:23,090
So maybe you don't want that article for the way it's written.

1388
01:08:23,090 --> 01:08:30,800
You just want to borrow a hundred thousand later after you buy it and not have the second half of the article.

1389
01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:32,539
It should have been, it should have been written.

1390
01:08:32,539 --> 01:08:35,600
There should be another one.

1391
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,140
Two and three.

1392
01:08:36,140 --> 01:08:37,039
All in one article.

1393
01:08:37,539 --> 01:08:41,699
Oh, don't you can define.

1394
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:58,279
If you define financing and say financing means borrowing, borrowing from yourself, then you'd be covered and just not fill in the percentage rates and everything.

1395
01:08:58,460 --> 01:08:59,960
But you really need to define that.

1396
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:03,029
If you're going to put that in, I don't know.

1397
01:09:03,109 --> 01:09:07,949
I, when I write these things, I get, I don't just fill that little box.

1398
01:09:07,949 --> 01:09:12,319
It's many pages because you really need to protect yourself.

1399
01:09:12,539 --> 01:09:13,039
I'm not.

1400
01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:15,060
It's the, it's the Catholic church.

1401
01:09:15,140 --> 01:09:20,260
I'm sure they're going to not do anything, but you clearly weren't raised in that.

1402
01:09:20,539 --> 01:09:22,180
No, I was.

1403
01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:23,119
I was not.

1404
01:09:25,489 --> 01:09:26,350
Just kidding.

1405
01:09:26,609 --> 01:09:29,229
I'm not defending their financial status.

1406
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:38,539
So do you want me to go back to the attorney and have him put that number seven there?

1407
01:09:38,539 --> 01:09:39,819
I would just ask him.

1408
01:09:40,119 --> 01:09:43,640
But I mean, I think you can go back to the church to tell him.

1409
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:55,880
This is what we're doing to give us a couple of minutes, you know, a couple of days to make sure we do that, you know, don't like they said, don't add anything you want for that contract, pretty much anything, except that they won't finance it for you.

1410
01:09:57,239 --> 01:09:57,899
They're broke.

1411
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,920
They need the money.

1412
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:00,960
They need the money.

1413
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,739
The church is not broke.

1414
01:10:03,899 --> 01:10:04,680
The diocese is broke.

1415
01:10:04,979 --> 01:10:05,180
Yes.

1416
01:10:05,260 --> 01:10:06,060
Let's get that straight.

1417
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:08,920
This goes, all this money goes right into the church, not the diocese.

1418
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:09,800
Okay, good.

1419
01:10:12,260 --> 01:10:13,939
So we're agreeable with that.

1420
01:10:14,380 --> 01:10:15,539
One, two, and three.

1421
01:10:16,140 --> 01:10:17,579
Four, what are we doing with four?

1422
01:10:19,739 --> 01:10:20,659
Call it five.

1423
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,199
Come on, that's a little funny.

1424
01:10:25,649 --> 01:10:26,989
You got a couple last.

1425
01:10:27,090 --> 01:10:27,909
A couple, yeah.

1426
01:10:28,250 --> 01:10:29,069
Is this my time?

1427
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:31,100
Are we doing four?

1428
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:33,289
Yes, we got to do four.

1429
01:10:33,289 --> 01:10:33,430
Sure.

1430
01:10:33,810 --> 01:10:34,569
We got to do four.

1431
01:10:34,569 --> 01:10:35,189
Got to have money.

1432
01:10:35,810 --> 01:10:37,289
Find the money before we can buy it.

1433
01:10:37,409 --> 01:10:38,329
100,000.

1434
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:41,189
Just gives the option.

1435
01:10:41,729 --> 01:10:42,010
Yeah.

1436
01:10:42,449 --> 01:10:43,069
Gives the option.

1437
01:10:43,069 --> 01:10:44,609
We can go out and do four.

1438
01:10:44,710 --> 01:10:44,989
All right.

1439
01:10:45,050 --> 01:10:46,430
We're doing three or past.

1440
01:10:47,529 --> 01:10:48,750
We're 288.

1441
01:10:48,750 --> 01:10:53,229
288, if Article 2 and 3 are not passed.

1442
01:10:53,789 --> 01:10:57,970
So Article 2 and 3, what do they add up to?

1443
01:10:59,020 --> 01:11:01,119
They don't add up to 288?

1444
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:02,380
187,000.

1445
01:11:02,579 --> 01:11:03,380
No, 6-0.

1446
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:04,319
187.

1447
01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:07,010
187 what?

1448
01:11:07,229 --> 01:11:08,050
6-6-0.

1449
01:11:08,609 --> 01:11:09,130
188.

1450
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:09,989
What's 100?

1451
01:11:10,329 --> 01:11:10,770
4,000 dollars.

1452
01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:11,289
288.

1453
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,020
100,000 and 187 is 287.

1454
01:11:16,279 --> 01:11:17,279
We're calling it 288.

1455
01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:20,180
We're 1,000 dollars off.

1456
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:21,039
Who did this math?

1457
01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:21,819
Me.

1458
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:22,560
Yeah.

1459
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:23,380
Who did this math?

1460
01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:26,340
What number do you want?

1461
01:11:26,460 --> 01:11:30,760
It doesn't include the inspection that you said was going to be paid for separately anyway.

1462
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:31,439
Right.

1463
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,640
So that's how we want it all.

1464
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,039
Okay.

1465
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:36,420
Do you want to include that?

1466
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,340
I don't imagine we can.

1467
01:11:37,899 --> 01:11:39,520
Well, the 100,000.

1468
01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:41,060
We'll cover it.

1469
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:41,479
Yeah.

1470
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,739
The 100,000 is going to cover that inspection anyway.

1471
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,560
So that's our first 1,000 dollars going to that.

1472
01:11:51,970 --> 01:11:52,989
We'll pass.

1473
01:11:52,989 --> 01:11:53,270
Okay.

1474
01:11:53,869 --> 01:11:54,529
288.

1475
01:11:55,069 --> 01:12:00,069
So borrowing 100,000 is probably a rather easy thing to do within a five-year period.

1476
01:12:01,069 --> 01:12:01,569
Right.

1477
01:12:01,569 --> 01:12:08,420
But if you're looking at 288, do you want to try and keep it within five years?

1478
01:12:08,420 --> 01:12:12,420
Because that'll be a higher payment, but then you're going to have to go bonding, which

1479
01:12:12,420 --> 01:12:14,420
changes the whole wording of all of this.

1480
01:12:14,420 --> 01:12:16,739
All meaning everything.

1481
01:12:16,739 --> 01:12:23,060
It becomes not a town meeting vote, but an Australian ballot vote.

1482
01:12:23,060 --> 01:12:26,220
Which person wants it to be?

1483
01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:32,720
Not a paper ballot during a town meeting night, but an actual printed ballot.

1484
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:33,720
Printed ballot.

1485
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,720
Printed ballot.

1486
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:35,720
Why are we putting the...

1487
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,720
If we're...

1488
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,720
As a board, we just voted it...

1489
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:43,720
As a board, now, this board here, we just voted in article two and three, to be honest.

1490
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,720
Why are we putting in the...

1491
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,960
Because you're going to want to borrow 100,000 for renovations.

1492
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:51,960
Or the 200,000.

1493
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:52,960
Right.

1494
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,960
But let's take that 200,000.

1495
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:54,960
Right.

1496
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,960
This is just an article three.

1497
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:56,960
Right.

1498
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:57,960
This is just an article four to borrow the money.

1499
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,960
Yeah, so you want to borrow 100,000 not to...

1500
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,960
This whole thing...

1501
01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:00,960
To lay out again, this whole thing should pass or not pass.

1502
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:01,960
You shouldn't be handpicking at it.

1503
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:02,960
So it should say, if it passes, it should be borrowed 100,000 for renovations.

1504
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:03,960
Right.

1505
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:04,960
But these two...

1506
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:05,960
Article two and three must pass, so I would go forward.

1507
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:06,960
Yeah, if two and three doesn't pass, four doesn't matter.

1508
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,960
Yeah.

1509
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:08,960
So...

1510
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,960
So we get rid of the 288?

1511
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,960
So the town of Stamford borrows some not to exceed $100,000...

1512
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1520
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1522
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1523
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1524
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1525
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1526
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1527
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1528
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1529
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1530
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1531
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1532
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1533
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1534
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1535
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1536
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1537
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1538
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1539
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1540
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1541
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1542
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1543
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1544
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1545
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1546
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1547
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1548
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1549
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1550
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1551
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1552
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1553
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then we wouldn't have capital expense in our australian ballot um that's where that well

1554
01:13:58,729 --> 01:14:03,289
the abusing article is i used to take that out then we don't have to worry about that just leave

1555
01:14:03,289 --> 01:14:12,569
it like that don't even put four in no no just not for that 100 grand just the other two improvements

1556
01:14:12,569 --> 01:14:20,250
are assets oh more than five years of procedure yeah fine but we know we can go five years with

1557
01:14:20,250 --> 01:14:27,470
a hundred thousand that's how do you do that three thousand for every three hundred fifty

1558
01:14:27,470 --> 01:14:33,930
thousand on your bag it's forty thousand or forty dollars how long do you think you might know for

1559
01:14:33,930 --> 01:14:39,689
grants in this village central district you may never need the four hundred thousand i'm wondering

1560
01:14:39,689 --> 01:14:46,170
if i gotta call i gotta make the call if you just did one two and three in the past you buy the

1561
01:14:46,170 --> 01:14:51,840
building yeah now we have an honor town meeting in march that's what i was thinking you could

1562
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:58,399
at that point have more information on grants or donations or other fundraising but we will

1563
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:06,670
but we will go over budget on keeping the church uh heated in electricity i don't know how much

1564
01:15:06,670 --> 01:15:12,670
but we will go over budget and i think that when we did the sales agreement to it said if there is

1565
01:15:12,670 --> 01:15:19,310
oil then we have to buy that now yeah so that you know that monies we have to i mean i think

1566
01:15:19,310 --> 01:15:21,310
we have enough money to buy their first tank but

1567
01:15:21,949 --> 01:15:26,350
afterwards how many tanks will we use i don't know it's just i'm just saying you haven't been

1568
01:15:26,350 --> 01:15:31,869
here in january yeah yeah really next year so we have three months of next year's money

1569
01:15:33,229 --> 01:15:39,630
yeah and you turn the temperature down in here throughout the building yeah a degree and you

1570
01:15:39,630 --> 01:15:45,869
can start using that you're right yes i am you're right put a sweater on i have no problem with that

1571
01:15:45,869 --> 01:15:52,939
i know that the church has no problem with that that's right put a sweater on i know when we go

1572
01:15:53,579 --> 01:15:59,739
sweaters on because it's cold and the seats are cold nobody wants to move over because it takes

1573
01:15:59,739 --> 01:16:04,939
10 hours to heat the fuse up and we're over there now or something yeah not worth it no you know

1574
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:12,300
okay so we agree on article one two and three we're not doing four we have to do five

1575
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:23,000
okay oh we already made a motion for one two and three anyway but in but in march you want to make

1576
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,109
you want to put it on for renovations which one

1577
01:16:26,430 --> 01:16:32,750
yeah well i think we will you'll have a lot more information then sure and if like i said if the

1578
01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:37,960
inspection comes back and it's crazy that information will be at the first of the special

1579
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:43,609
time meeting and you guys will say oh we're not spending that or we might do that before it gets

1580
01:16:44,170 --> 01:16:51,609
you know i just personally as a board member if i see this numbers going over way over crazy numbers

1581
01:16:51,609 --> 01:16:59,319
i'm going to make that be careful money it doesn't make sense y'all well i'm only one guy

1582
01:16:59,399 --> 01:17:08,119
if you don't vote the renovation money then you're handcuffing the voters to have to pass

1583
01:17:08,119 --> 01:17:13,399
that mark because now we own the building you're right and we can't do anything with it yep you're

1584
01:17:13,399 --> 01:17:19,920
right so then we might as well sell the building if they don't want to renovate it why do we have

1585
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:24,640
a building that's well i'm wondering no but you're right these are going to be harder to pass

1586
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:30,159
at the special meetings with people thinking ahead we may end with a building that we can't

1587
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:38,000
renovate we can't spend we can't we can't afford to renovate yeah or contrarily when march vote

1588
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:44,960
comes they vote not the town votes not to invest more money into building that's what i'm saying

1589
01:17:54,729 --> 01:18:00,000
but that being said if you know if we think it's feasible

1590
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:06,399
we have to put it up for sale or a waste of time and money it's great so i i agree i mean i think

1591
01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:11,119
i don't see why we won't put the hundred thousand it doesn't doesn't say borrow it says not going to

1592
01:18:11,119 --> 01:18:16,479
see that you know i mean it's not like we're going to spend it if we don't need to but just have that

1593
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:21,760
money just in case like you said we might have to you know winterize it or put over the you know

1594
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:26,800
put some windows in or cover the heat you know we could lower that down to 50 000 just to get

1595
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,720
us to march i looked at it again as optics i i think people are going to feel like they're going

1596
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,359
handcuffed i do i agree with you yeah yeah geez we bought a building but we didn't that's a good

1597
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:41,470
point now we're going to have to pay more money to renovate do you want to do you think that it's

1598
01:18:41,470 --> 01:18:45,550
well not to exceed this not to exceed i mean i don't really care if it's a hundred thousand or

1599
01:18:45,550 --> 01:18:51,470
fifty dollars to me i think the board is fiscally responsible enough not to spend money we don't

1600
01:18:51,470 --> 01:18:56,510
need it of course you know so i i don't think that the number the hundred thousand is scary at all

1601
01:18:57,710 --> 01:19:00,670
but we're not going to go asking the bank for it until we

1602
01:19:01,229 --> 01:19:06,350
know what we need you know once we get that inspection and know it we can say okay you know

1603
01:19:06,350 --> 01:19:11,789
we might look and say like bill said we can wait until after the first year to release a new budget

1604
01:19:13,340 --> 01:19:18,939
do other things and we're open to any donations from everybody but it might cost us

1605
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:23,260
you know throughout the you know heat and everything

1606
01:19:26,380 --> 01:19:30,699
i mean i would assume that our highway guy would plow it but that's some of the expense

1607
01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:36,859
out you know same thing with mowing it's the same guy that was here maybe we can get a better deal

1608
01:19:36,859 --> 01:19:42,859
than him i think he knows that he does all right so you can get a good deal on cheap time what's

1609
01:19:42,859 --> 01:19:47,899
that and get you a good deal on cheap i think that's a lot i think that's a great idea i thought

1610
01:19:47,899 --> 01:19:52,539
you were putting them over there i thought you were putting them over there not voluntarily

1611
01:19:52,539 --> 01:19:57,739
my daughter's been asking to and i kept saying it yeah it's not as a property

1612
01:19:59,420 --> 01:19:59,739
yeah yeah

1613
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:06,140
yeah you might have it down you might have it in now oh that's her business

1614
01:20:07,819 --> 01:20:15,020
carolyn i'm just um interested in the info how the information gets out to the population before

1615
01:20:15,020 --> 01:20:21,260
november 25th because you know people this is a great meeting and we're we're hashing out all

1616
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:27,020
the issues i don't see a lot of people showing up at select board meetings the wonder of a document

1617
01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:30,539
could be put together once you have a rough out of the numbers

1618
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:41,020
and kurt is um got all these grants it's worth mentioning that the bcrc has you know

1619
01:20:41,899 --> 01:20:49,100
has a lot of money we voted on the town i mean just educating people to the fact that in fact

1620
01:20:49,739 --> 01:20:55,260
there could be money to help renovate this building i mean i think that we could we could

1621
01:20:55,260 --> 01:21:00,220
you know do a mail or if we want but i also think we could just put it on you know we could also put

1622
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:07,659
it on the website well you know it's it's funny because a lot of people say geez without the

1623
01:21:07,659 --> 01:21:12,619
website i wouldn't know what's going on and see the minutes and all that so i don't know i think

1624
01:21:12,619 --> 01:21:19,739
it's important enough that you do a multi-pronged shirt and um you do a mailer where do people

1625
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:24,140
do our due diligence and still have everyone to show up yeah

1626
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:28,619
everybody can come to the meeting

1627
01:21:28,619 --> 01:21:30,939
no but right now you think that it's worth it

1628
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:36,779
document that sort of spells out what we've talked about here and the fact that there might

1629
01:21:36,779 --> 01:21:43,180
be help you know what you said too is you know people don't go to a slug war meeting so there's

1630
01:21:43,180 --> 01:21:50,279
probably about 500 more people tonight than there usually is right so it must be an important issue

1631
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:55,560
right because people don't go to meetings until it's an important issue right so if this is that

1632
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,720
important we're going to have other meetings how many people are watching those meetings too

1633
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:01,239
judd how many people are

1634
01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:06,920
watching well they come by the way something goes on but it's usually about 35 to 40. sorry

1635
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:14,319
55 to 40. 35 to 40. okay i would tell you if the agendas were more detailed i think you'd have

1636
01:22:14,319 --> 01:22:24,590
better time lori had a comment they they have to send notice to the voters either by publication or

1637
01:22:24,590 --> 01:22:30,510
a mailing to registered voters so if they put together a mailing with a letter that had all this

1638
01:22:31,710 --> 01:22:35,789
information in it they would be able to send it to the voters and the voters would receive it

1639
01:22:35,789 --> 01:22:40,989
before that november 20th meeting and the mail is in pretty good shape we did discuss that at

1640
01:22:40,989 --> 01:22:46,909
one of the select board meetings that 10 days before the town meeting it has to go out with

1641
01:22:46,909 --> 01:22:52,270
a warning in the warrant article there and put some information in it's going to cost

1642
01:22:52,270 --> 01:22:57,149
there's this much this much this much there is definitely multiple um like paul said there's

1643
01:22:57,149 --> 01:23:01,550
multiple communication systems out there uh you know everybody laughs but facebook hits a lot of

1644
01:23:01,710 --> 01:23:08,109
hits on those those uh sites that are up and people probably spread the word it's a lot better

1645
01:23:08,109 --> 01:23:14,109
than it was 10 years ago 10 years ago you know we've posted out here to go on so yeah it's a lot

1646
01:23:14,109 --> 01:23:22,270
better news the website's helping yes it has i think if you use every avenue you got yep and

1647
01:23:22,270 --> 01:23:28,350
again i would like to see and cj i also agree with you on that the agenda it shouldn't just

1648
01:23:28,350 --> 01:23:31,550
say roads if there's something going on with the roads we should put it in a detail

1649
01:23:31,710 --> 01:23:37,310
that says we're talking about lincoln road project or we're talking and sometimes we you know we are

1650
01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:41,789
a little vague on the agendas um sometimes we don't know what's going to happen until we get here

1651
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:47,710
many times but there are a lot of times where i read the minutes and i said oh i would have liked

1652
01:23:47,710 --> 01:23:53,949
to have gone to that yeah yeah so you know maybe we can especially with this issue you know put

1653
01:23:53,949 --> 01:24:01,229
this on if a matter of fact i would like to have it on every agenda until the town meeting have it

1654
01:24:01,710 --> 01:24:07,390
on that there will be a discussion even if there's no news even if it's just an update right so an

1655
01:24:07,390 --> 01:24:14,189
update of the of the purchase of the bill yeah we don't have the report yet so yeah it'll be on every

1656
01:24:14,189 --> 01:24:19,310
agenda now so if people want to come and at least just hear it or send your representative you know

1657
01:24:19,310 --> 01:24:24,189
if marta wants to come and she's got 12 friends that she can call and say hey this is what they

1658
01:24:24,189 --> 01:24:30,750
told us you know so you know not everybody would have to go that way but i think that should be on

1659
01:24:32,029 --> 01:24:40,810
that's it so you back no we didn't do four yet i would like to do the hundred thousand i would like

1660
01:24:40,810 --> 01:24:45,529
to stop because i have any discussion you know not to exceed a hundred thousand for a five-year

1661
01:24:45,529 --> 01:24:50,329
period i think it's clear that if i you're going to expect that yep yep so i'll take all that out

1662
01:24:50,329 --> 01:24:56,600
and i'd like to make a motion to that all in favor yes all right so you're not going to say

1663
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:02,600
if articles two is very fast right a hundred thousand i think you could you could say yeah

1664
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:07,399
because if you don't pass it we don't know we don't have the finances we'll get to the

1665
01:25:08,359 --> 01:25:11,720
the finance department to and change that word

1666
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:25,819
okay um laurie if you would take this up and we can sign it um any other business before the

1667
01:25:25,819 --> 01:25:31,979
select board before we i'd love to talk about the signing um wait a minute laurie's got something do

1668
01:25:31,979 --> 01:25:34,220
you have um the inspection

1669
01:25:35,260 --> 01:25:40,300
agreement that i just want you to look over i have to just approve it online but i want you to be

1670
01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:52,199
okay okay great job look at all the lords a bit i mean it's all mumbo jumbo

1671
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:56,439
see you folks

1672
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,680
so are you guys done you're just gonna sign what you talked about

1673
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:23,520
to do

1674
01:26:30,319 --> 01:26:35,520
yeah

1675
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,600
i'm gonna bring it personally up to your house and you guys have i think i'm drinking of course

1676
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,920
Okay, here we go.

1677
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,720
You're going to keep recording until the very end.

1678
01:26:46,939 --> 01:26:47,840
That's a surprise.

1679
01:26:49,020 --> 01:26:50,220
I'm afraid you're surprised.

1680
01:26:50,220 --> 01:26:50,720
Thank you.

1681
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:51,220
Thank you.

1682
01:26:52,220 --> 01:26:52,680
Thank you.

1683
01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:55,739
Are you a playwright?

1684
01:26:55,939 --> 01:26:56,199
No.

1685
01:26:56,399 --> 01:26:57,680
The trip fee is $95.

1686
01:26:58,300 --> 01:26:58,479
No.

1687
01:26:58,939 --> 01:27:03,560
That's the most sought-after job in any nonprofit.

1688
01:27:04,060 --> 01:27:04,500
Anywhere.

1689
01:27:04,859 --> 01:27:07,199
I mean, there's a lot of money out there for a lot of different things.

1690
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:07,340
Yeah.

1691
01:27:07,579 --> 01:27:09,420
How much more?

1692
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:16,020
Can you hold this till after so we can review this?

1693
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:18,560
We just want to do this inspection part of it now.

1694
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,180
The client in Norway Hill.

1695
01:27:20,539 --> 01:27:22,880
Carolyn, you can have a seat here, but we're just reading.

1696
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:23,640
Yeah, we're not over.

1697
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:24,380
We're just doing this.

1698
01:27:24,619 --> 01:27:25,680
We're making sure.

1699
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,500
The client in Norway Hill.

1700
01:27:26,619 --> 01:27:27,420
I'm going to leave it there.

1701
01:27:27,420 --> 01:27:27,819
Have a seat.

1702
01:27:28,060 --> 01:27:36,119
The client has been informed of other inspections we offer that are not included with the standard

1703
01:27:36,119 --> 01:27:39,949
home inspection specified in Vermont standard.

1704
01:27:40,029 --> 01:27:41,029
It's for home inspection.

1705
01:27:41,789 --> 01:27:47,399
Oh, and then they give us a website that's three sentences long.

1706
01:27:47,399 --> 01:27:52,279
By initialing bill, you're agreeing to the above inspection fees and waiving any additional

1707
01:27:52,279 --> 01:27:52,399
services.

1708
01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:53,439
Yes.

1709
01:27:54,539 --> 01:27:55,340
Oh, my gosh.

1710
01:27:55,680 --> 01:28:01,739
Scope of the inspection, the client authorizes Norway Hill Home to perform standard home

1711
01:28:01,739 --> 01:28:06,119
inspection in accordance with the state standard of practice following the address.

1712
01:28:06,739 --> 01:28:10,779
By providing a standard home inspection, Norway Hill Home Inspection.

1713
01:28:11,180 --> 01:28:14,760
The inspection is intended to provide the client with the evaluation of the general

1714
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:15,939
conditions of the dwelling.

1715
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:21,680
The inspection is a visual inspection of the building, including its components and apparent

1716
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,739
overall condition on the date of inspection only.

1717
01:28:24,739 --> 01:28:29,840
The inspection is limited to readily accessible areas of the building and improvements.

1718
01:28:30,380 --> 01:28:35,340
Data collected from the report as a result of the inspection is not intended to make

1719
01:28:35,340 --> 01:28:39,939
any representation regarding latent or concealed defects that may be present.

1720
01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:41,060
No warranty.

1721
01:28:41,180 --> 01:28:46,000
Your guarantee is intended, expressed, or implied on any system, equipment, or component.

1722
01:28:47,449 --> 01:28:48,689
Limits of the inspection.

1723
01:28:50,909 --> 01:28:51,729
Are you reading all this?

1724
01:28:52,329 --> 01:28:53,130
Well, no.

1725
01:28:53,949 --> 01:28:54,609
We had this.

1726
01:28:54,890 --> 01:28:56,909
So you're not doing, what's that?

1727
01:28:56,930 --> 01:28:57,930
This was emailed to us.

1728
01:28:58,890 --> 01:28:59,430
Oh, it was?

1729
01:28:59,609 --> 01:28:59,829
Yeah.

1730
01:29:00,050 --> 01:29:01,289
We had this emailed to us.

1731
01:29:01,409 --> 01:29:02,149
The prices and everything.

1732
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:03,689
The whole thing here?

1733
01:29:03,890 --> 01:29:07,470
Because we're not doing, we're not doing the radon and all that.

1734
01:29:08,649 --> 01:29:11,609
Water, the well testing, we're not doing that.

1735
01:29:12,010 --> 01:29:13,369
Mold testing, we're not doing that.

1736
01:29:13,550 --> 01:29:14,430
We don't need to do that.

1737
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:17,560
We're going to renovate that.

1738
01:29:18,199 --> 01:29:19,760
No, you paid the million dollars.

1739
01:29:20,020 --> 01:29:21,239
You're getting the Title V.

1740
01:29:21,239 --> 01:29:21,600
Yeah.

1741
01:29:27,819 --> 01:29:30,039
You're not testing any lead pipes, right?

1742
01:29:30,180 --> 01:29:31,340
That's a special order.

1743
01:29:31,539 --> 01:29:32,960
Mold, you're not doing mold testing.

1744
01:29:34,279 --> 01:29:37,199
That's only if it says in parentheses in the order.

1745
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:38,720
Yes, I missed this one.

1746
01:29:49,609 --> 01:29:51,890
Covering, yeah, there's a cell there.

1747
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:53,909
Now.

1748
01:29:54,109 --> 01:29:55,229
Here's the other thing.

1749
01:29:55,770 --> 01:29:57,729
We're going to get the inspection report.

1750
01:29:58,470 --> 01:30:00,310
Kurt's going to look into grants.

1751
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:08,869
I'm going to ask Lori if she could call VLCT and see how much it would cost to insure that building.

1752
01:30:11,250 --> 01:30:11,729
Lori?

1753
01:30:12,289 --> 01:30:12,430
Yeah.

1754
01:30:12,430 --> 01:30:16,390
You can call VLCT and ask them how much it would cost to insure the building.

1755
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:18,329
We'll need that.

1756
01:30:20,420 --> 01:30:20,899
Do.

1757
01:30:22,409 --> 01:30:25,130
Could you get the oil cost for last winter?

1758
01:30:25,810 --> 01:30:26,029
Yeah.

1759
01:30:26,189 --> 01:30:26,510
Yes.

1760
01:30:26,670 --> 01:30:27,630
That we can get.

1761
01:30:27,630 --> 01:30:27,930
Yep.

1762
01:30:29,420 --> 01:30:31,039
Because it would probably be just the.

1763
01:30:31,579 --> 01:30:33,039
Yeah, because when do you ever shut down?

1764
01:30:34,250 --> 01:30:36,949
Last October, I believe.

1765
01:30:36,949 --> 01:30:39,449
It was last October or was it in the spring?

1766
01:30:39,930 --> 01:30:41,149
No, it was October.

1767
01:30:41,149 --> 01:30:41,750
October?

1768
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:41,949
Yeah.

1769
01:30:41,949 --> 01:30:43,350
Okay, so I'll try to get.

1770
01:30:43,350 --> 01:30:43,850
Two years old?

1771
01:30:43,850 --> 01:30:46,449
It would be a generous gift I can have to see if I can get the.

1772
01:30:46,449 --> 01:30:47,649
I think it's actually more.

1773
01:30:47,649 --> 01:30:50,489
If you can get this year, I can get the year before.

1774
01:30:50,489 --> 01:30:51,189
Okay, yeah.

1775
01:30:51,189 --> 01:30:52,630
Because I think we were in business then.

1776
01:30:52,729 --> 01:30:54,550
Okay, yeah, that's probably the best one.

1777
01:30:54,829 --> 01:30:55,550
Yeah, okay.

1778
01:30:55,550 --> 01:30:57,090
Where we were actually functioning.

1779
01:30:57,090 --> 01:30:57,310
Yeah.

1780
01:30:57,310 --> 01:30:58,310
So we're going to have to get the electric.

1781
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:59,310
Turn it up and down.

1782
01:30:59,310 --> 01:31:00,310
Electric was warm too.

1783
01:31:00,310 --> 01:31:01,310
Yeah, but it's been down to nothing.

1784
01:31:01,310 --> 01:31:02,310
Just enough sort of pipes all.

1785
01:31:02,310 --> 01:31:03,310
Electricity would be much.

1786
01:31:03,310 --> 01:31:04,310
You can get the mowing because that's the same.

1787
01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:05,310
Yep.

1788
01:31:05,310 --> 01:31:06,310
Electric would be this.

1789
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:07,310
I mean electric.

1790
01:31:07,310 --> 01:31:08,310
That's minor.

1791
01:31:08,310 --> 01:31:09,310
That would be about the same.

1792
01:31:09,310 --> 01:31:10,310
60, 70 bucks a year.

1793
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:11,310
Yeah.

1794
01:31:11,310 --> 01:31:12,310
Nobody's out of their right.

1795
01:31:12,310 --> 01:31:13,310
So we need to hire someone.

1796
01:31:13,310 --> 01:31:14,310
The lights are shut off.

1797
01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:15,310
You turn them on.

1798
01:31:15,310 --> 01:31:16,310
Yeah.

1799
01:31:16,310 --> 01:31:17,310
The lights are across.

1800
01:31:17,310 --> 01:31:18,310
It's not just.

1801
01:31:18,310 --> 01:31:19,920
It's not just.

1802
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:20,920
Yeah.

1803
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:21,920
It's not just.

1804
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:22,920
It's not just.

1805
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:23,920
It's not just.

1806
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:24,920
It's not just.

1807
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:25,920
It's not just.

1808
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:26,920
Yeah.

1809
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:27,920
Yeah.

1810
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:35,619
So we need to hire someone or talk to someone because they said the realtor said we could

1811
01:31:35,619 --> 01:31:41,699
get anybody to come in to give us a price on how much to upgrade the electric, if it

1812
01:31:41,699 --> 01:31:42,699
needs upgrading.

1813
01:31:42,699 --> 01:31:43,699
Sure.

1814
01:31:43,699 --> 01:31:45,560
So do we know anybody we want to use for carpentry, electric?

1815
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:46,460
Well I did mention Mike Senkel because he's in town.

1816
01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:51,539
I think he would be good.

1817
01:31:51,539 --> 01:31:57,260
And I don't know if he can do electrical or not.

1818
01:31:57,260 --> 01:31:58,260
He can.

1819
01:31:58,260 --> 01:32:06,100
one or two of the guys live here in town i don't know if they do this kind of stuff

1820
01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:11,300
they've been good with us yeah i mean the way i look at it is if you can get one guy

1821
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:16,420
and move all that would be awesome you don't have to get up i'm just getting ahead do you uh

1822
01:32:16,420 --> 01:32:22,739
do you want to anybody want to call uh seneca and ask him if he can do these three things

1823
01:32:22,739 --> 01:32:29,050
yeah so what three things carpentry electric plumbing

1824
01:32:44,779 --> 01:32:50,140
so mike said i'm gonna call the carpentry and electric and my new

1825
01:32:53,260 --> 01:32:58,460
clothes

1826
01:33:09,020 --> 01:33:11,420
can jim williams do plumbing and water he does

1827
01:33:13,260 --> 01:33:18,859
he doesn't do water i think he says yeah yeah yeah yeah for me

1828
01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:22,460
yep okay i know that

1829
01:33:23,260 --> 01:33:29,739
though i know that does not do sewers right mike wall would have his license by spring

1830
01:33:29,739 --> 01:33:36,539
to burger lab to do something septics okay who's that mike up on my road yeah oh i know

1831
01:33:36,539 --> 01:33:42,380
i've been in contact with him for our neighbor okay so thanks depending on the inspection right

1832
01:33:43,260 --> 01:33:48,140
or you want to just wait i think we should wait we don't have it yeah we gotta wait until you

1833
01:33:48,140 --> 01:33:52,539
get the inspection i mean i don't see that not passing the manager i think that'll pass i mean

1834
01:33:53,260 --> 01:33:56,380
that's there's nothing not letting it grow how much use did we get well

1835
01:34:00,539 --> 01:34:05,500
and i don't see it nothing because of that scene the last time i was pumped and i give you

1836
01:34:05,500 --> 01:34:10,859
my computer and you know even if we can turn this into a scent of salmon trying to be used

1837
01:34:10,859 --> 01:34:15,100
like people think that would be like a house i don't think it was ever a residency a lot less

1838
01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:19,100
than the average house you know that's where you're being media telling me how the first years

1839
01:34:20,460 --> 01:34:23,539
yeah i don't think it was ever pumped oh

1840
01:34:23,699 --> 01:34:28,260
maybe not how much no i wasn't involved in bosco i don't i don't know

1841
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:37,460
yeah i mean i i know some of the financing but i wasn't involved in any of the everyday stuff

1842
01:34:40,229 --> 01:34:46,789
so if they say they'll do it we're just getting yes as i know is we're not setting up times or are

1843
01:34:46,789 --> 01:34:53,270
we setting up time i think we should well i i don't think we should do times um necessarily for

1844
01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:54,069
the sewer

1845
01:34:54,789 --> 01:34:59,270
but maybe uh no but like the carpentry electric plumbing water heating i mean i don't know how

1846
01:34:59,270 --> 01:35:04,710
the carpenter's gonna give you any numbers because what are we doing what are we doing

1847
01:35:06,229 --> 01:35:10,710
yeah we don't know i don't think we have to worry about that we need electrical plumbing heating

1848
01:35:12,789 --> 01:35:14,229
flux

1849
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:24,550
on it could have caught you know it's gonna take a

1850
01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:27,670
week to do that okay with water

1851
01:35:32,869 --> 01:35:39,909
if we generate if we estimate say thirty thousand for each that gives us ten thousand for under a

1852
01:35:39,909 --> 01:35:45,750
hundred thousand dollar apartment yeah yeah so thirty thousand for electric thirty thousand yes

1853
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:49,909
really and then we might ask for something seriously

1854
01:35:49,909 --> 01:35:53,750
we're gonna be able to steal or something from i was gonna say just downstairs

1855
01:35:54,789 --> 01:36:01,670
that downstairs put the upstairs on a separate uh box and meter not a meter but a page one page

1856
01:36:01,670 --> 01:36:07,989
yeah right we could generate money afterwards with the center you know if we have if it becomes a

1857
01:36:07,989 --> 01:36:14,630
center that's multiple uses you can do a fundraising sure there's a lot of options is it a potential

1858
01:36:14,630 --> 01:36:19,430
at some point maybe there could be a solar field in there well someone talked to me about that and

1859
01:36:19,430 --> 01:36:24,470
they said if you put a solar field in it will literally pay for your electricity arrested yeah

1860
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:31,829
so kind of electricity there would be really cheap right oh yeah

1861
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:42,069
the roof's gotta solve the roof yeah we could look at that that's all stuff we've been looking

1862
01:36:42,069 --> 01:36:46,630
at that's all the bungle hall used to have bathrooms in it too where's that that's something

1863
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:53,430
together how would you find something like that really like sonar

1864
01:36:54,789 --> 01:36:58,149
the fact that there's probably a steel tank that was probably not everywhere

1865
01:37:01,510 --> 01:37:07,979
but i would like to make a motion that we um signed the uh inspection second

1866
01:37:07,979 --> 01:37:27,579
well i thought we had a free week tonight too but i guess not you would have had a nice three weeks

1867
01:37:37,979 --> 01:37:43,020
okay we get paid for this meeting yes we're really all right oh the other two meetings

1868
01:37:43,020 --> 01:37:49,500
i put your name your initials down oh okay not that i care i'm just wondering if we have their

1869
01:37:49,500 --> 01:37:56,779
vote yeah i wasn't quite sure article four shall the town of stanford boris some not to exceed a

1870
01:37:56,779 --> 01:38:01,260
hundred thousand if article two and three are passed period said some to be repaid over a

1871
01:38:01,260 --> 01:38:05,659
five-year period yeah are we going to say a hundred thousand dollars toward renovation

1872
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:08,359
why are we borrowing

1873
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:15,180
probably yeah you gotta have to put that towards renovation yep yeah you do have to say renovation

1874
01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:20,460
and we do we just say we keep in if article two and three are passed or at that point it's

1875
01:38:20,460 --> 01:38:25,020
irrelevant if we've made it to article four correct yeah right so we'll take that out too

1876
01:38:27,020 --> 01:38:29,500
yeah yeah is there a kitchen in here or something

1877
01:38:34,140 --> 01:38:35,899
i was thinking maybe you could do like something

1878
01:38:39,659 --> 01:38:48,859
i don't know

1879
01:38:50,300 --> 01:38:52,060
as long as it's good okay

1880
01:38:55,420 --> 01:38:57,100
no

1881
01:39:00,140 --> 01:39:00,380
yeah

1882
01:39:02,539 --> 01:39:06,220
none of that yeah craziness with the coffee

1883
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:10,340
cool

1884
01:39:10,340 --> 01:39:11,300
we'll see what happens

1885
01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:11,859
oh so i'm called

1886
01:39:12,260 --> 01:39:16,479
It was a good meeting, and we got some good input, I thought.

1887
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:17,039
Can I go?

1888
01:39:17,340 --> 01:39:20,600
I think you've calmed down a few people.

1889
01:39:21,359 --> 01:39:22,300
What we're going to do with it?

1890
01:39:23,359 --> 01:39:24,979
What we're going to do with it is a message.

1891
01:39:24,979 --> 01:39:29,859
From the people that were here, they will spread it to,

1892
01:39:30,399 --> 01:39:33,760
and maybe that will calm down a lot of people that weren't here tonight.

1893
01:39:33,939 --> 01:39:35,260
Because I heard a lot of people.

1894
01:39:35,460 --> 01:39:36,239
You know what I like?

1895
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,020
Some of the, like, I know we're still taping and stuff,

1896
01:39:40,020 --> 01:39:42,600
but some of the people that had questions, they were answered,

1897
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,680
and they were really, like, you could see that breathing up.

1898
01:39:45,819 --> 01:39:48,220
I think it was a good thing.

1899
01:39:48,220 --> 01:39:50,199
Yeah, we did not buy it, period.

1900
01:39:50,199 --> 01:39:52,659
All the information's out there.

1901
01:39:53,539 --> 01:39:55,300
It's locked here.

1902
01:39:55,420 --> 01:40:02,369
We might want to make a motion to accept it before we revise it.

1903
01:40:02,609 --> 01:40:03,729
So if you want to read that.

1904
01:40:04,109 --> 01:40:04,350
Okay.

1905
01:40:04,729 --> 01:40:05,210
Read it out.

1906
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:09,729
Shall the town of Stanford, Boris, not exceed $100,000.

1907
01:40:10,250 --> 01:40:13,149
Toward renovation, at a rate to be determined,

1908
01:40:13,649 --> 01:40:18,609
set some to be repaired over, to be repaid over a five-year period.

1909
01:40:18,609 --> 01:40:22,050
So this is an amended Article 4.

1910
01:40:22,210 --> 01:40:23,050
I'd like to make a motion.

1911
01:40:23,310 --> 01:40:24,029
Yeah, because we already.

1912
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:28,050
Can we pass this and move up the other motion?

1913
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,819
That's whatever I need to do.

1914
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:32,720
Yep.

1915
01:40:33,819 --> 01:40:34,439
Clean it up.

1916
01:40:35,039 --> 01:40:36,699
It says towards renovation.

1917
01:40:38,020 --> 01:40:40,710
You know, we know what we want.

1918
01:40:40,729 --> 01:40:45,130
We know what we want to do, but we don't always say the correct terminology.

1919
01:40:45,130 --> 01:40:46,510
Like, Kurt was saying.

1920
01:40:46,510 --> 01:40:48,449
That's why I said I got a C- in both.

1921
01:40:48,449 --> 01:40:48,630
Right.

1922
01:40:48,630 --> 01:40:50,210
I'm not a professional on it.

1923
01:40:50,210 --> 01:40:51,590
We don't have to nitpick everything.

1924
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:55,270
We're not trying to put anything in there or say anything.

1925
01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:55,890
We're not professionals.

1926
01:40:55,890 --> 01:40:56,789
Politicians, bottom line, isn't it?

1927
01:40:56,789 --> 01:40:58,489
Even professionals can talk, right?

1928
01:40:58,489 --> 01:41:01,430
You see someone at the town meeting, it's just like, no.

1929
01:41:01,430 --> 01:41:05,130
We're just trying to make sure.

1930
01:41:05,130 --> 01:41:10,050
I think if this passes, if it passes, the most contentious thing is probably going

1931
01:41:10,050 --> 01:41:10,590
to be what we're going to do.

1932
01:41:10,729 --> 01:41:11,029
Yeah.

1933
01:41:11,029 --> 01:41:13,529
Or we should have a sign.

1934
01:41:13,529 --> 01:41:17,489
The big thing as far as this is a senior center.

1935
01:41:17,489 --> 01:41:20,930
You put it on the list, and then it's on this person's list.

1936
01:41:20,930 --> 01:41:22,010
Yeah, yeah.

1937
01:41:22,010 --> 01:41:23,430
You can hang it on the building, right?

1938
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:24,850
Or you guys want to use the floor.

1939
01:41:24,850 --> 01:41:26,229
You can hang it on the wall.

1940
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:26,609
Yep.

1941
01:41:26,609 --> 01:41:28,010
That's definitely a good idea.

1942
01:41:28,010 --> 01:41:30,550
My number one choice, too, is a 40-year-old.

1943
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:30,850
Yep.

1944
01:41:30,850 --> 01:41:34,130
I don't know why you're talking about it.

1945
01:41:34,130 --> 01:41:35,409
There's a million things you can do.

1946
01:41:35,409 --> 01:41:35,909
Yeah.

1947
01:41:35,909 --> 01:41:39,390
And down the back, you know, you want to pay for a painting.

1948
01:41:39,390 --> 01:41:40,710
Down the back, there's a beautiful.

1949
01:41:40,710 --> 01:41:45,029
It's a beautiful area to walk in, and it's very, very pretty.

1950
01:41:45,029 --> 01:41:47,430
I'm sure you can build that into a fairground.

1951
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:49,430
If you put picnic tables out there, people could come.

1952
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:49,930
Yep.

1953
01:41:49,930 --> 01:41:50,810
They can walk in.

1954
01:41:50,810 --> 01:41:52,930
They can go stop after lunch.

1955
01:41:52,930 --> 01:41:55,930
Well, like Mike said, they could walk their dog there.

1956
01:41:55,930 --> 01:41:56,430
Yeah.

1957
01:41:56,430 --> 01:41:57,729
And not on the schoolyard.

1958
01:41:57,729 --> 01:41:59,729
You just got to be thick and be inventive.

1959
01:41:59,729 --> 01:42:00,229
That's Clark's.

1960
01:42:00,229 --> 01:42:02,229
Clark's got horseshoe pads, and they got .

1961
01:42:02,229 --> 01:42:02,729
Oh, yeah.

1962
01:42:02,729 --> 01:42:03,229
We get fence.

1963
01:42:03,229 --> 01:42:04,229
And townspeople can use it.

1964
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:07,229
We can have a play area if you want to have a party here.

1965
01:42:07,229 --> 01:42:08,229
We can have a party.

1966
01:42:08,229 --> 01:42:09,229
We can have some fun.

1967
01:42:09,229 --> 01:42:10,029
We can have a party.

1968
01:42:10,029 --> 01:42:10,529
Yeah.

1969
01:42:10,710 --> 01:42:12,710
And if you go down there and play horseshoes, you won't want them.

1970
01:42:12,710 --> 01:42:13,710
You could go to a play area.

1971
01:42:13,710 --> 01:42:14,210
Yeah.

1972
01:42:14,210 --> 01:42:16,210
You could make a donation to walk your dog out.

1973
01:42:16,210 --> 01:42:16,710
Yeah.

1974
01:42:16,710 --> 01:42:17,710
We could do a lot.

1975
01:42:17,710 --> 01:42:18,210
To what?

1976
01:42:18,210 --> 01:42:18,770
Yeah.

1977
01:42:18,770 --> 01:42:19,770
To what?

1978
01:42:19,770 --> 01:42:21,770
Play area for kids and stuff.

1979
01:42:21,770 --> 01:42:24,890
I don't know what's out here.

1980
01:42:24,890 --> 01:42:26,600
Uh-huh.

1981
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:27,600
I don't know.

1982
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,600
Kids play at the .

1983
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,600
Kids go on their cell phone.

1984
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:31,100
Yeah.

1985
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:36,600
I think the board would be willing to hear whatever somebody had for an idea for it.

1986
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:37,600
I think we're good.

1987
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:38,600
No, I'm not rushing you.

1988
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:39,600
You're hungry.

1989
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:40,600
Or else you've got to go eat.

1990
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:41,600
I've got a date waiting on you.

1991
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:42,100
Oh.

1992
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:42,600
Oh.

1993
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:43,100
Mm-hmm.

1994
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:44,100
I'm pretty good enough.

1995
01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:44,600
Yeah.

1996
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:45,600
She's waiting, too.

1997
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:46,600
She's gone.

1998
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:50,600
Do we want to make a motion to adjourn the meeting until next week?

1999
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:51,100
Yeah.

2000
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:51,600
We'll adjourn.

2001
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:52,600
Until next week.

2002
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:53,600
All in favor?

2003
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:54,100
Aye.

2004
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:54,600
Aye.

2005
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:55,100
Aye.

2006
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:55,600
Aye.

2007
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:56,100
Thank you.

2008
01:42:56,100 --> 01:42:57,100
No, we don't do the next week meeting.