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Stamford Select Board — 2025-07-17 (Regular)

113 min · town drive · audio · minutes (town PDF) · markdown
Nancy L. BushikaMichael G. DenaultDouglas WrightKurt GamariJohn Dunn
Session: Regular · **Duration:** 113 min · Audio · Minutes
The July 17, 2025 regular selectboard meeting (113 min) opened with a resident ('Jim') protesting that the board had acted in the previous meeting's executive session without a vote, which the chair acknowledged as an oversight and apologized for. The board approved the June 12, 19, and 24 minutes, discussed the East Road bridge grant and roads, and appointed Stephanie Shelburne, Angela Trudeau, and Carol Saldo as planning commission alternates pending the commissioner's written resignation. It adopted the revised code of ethics investigation and enforcement ordinance with amendments, signed two uniform municipal access permits, and went into executive session on personnel and probable civil litigation, setting the lister's hourly rate, assistant town clerk hours and pay, and directing the attorney to proceed.
On the agenda

Motions (9, 8 passed)

Approve minutes / records and orders for June 12, 19, and 24, 2025 (June 24 was the special selectboard meeting) mover not statedpassed
“Motion to approve all three. (unattributed)”
Approval implicit. Chair asks for a second; Speaker 13 replies 'Yeah, I think I was here.' An unattributed 'four' may be a count but no count is stated by the chair. Chair: 'Looks like everybody was here on all three.'
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Sign the East Road bridge grant agreement (AOT construction grant) Nancy L. Bushika (Chair)seconded: Speaker 8no-formal-vote
“Make a motion to sign the grant agreement.”
Motion made and seconded, but discussion moves on (jobs, recycling) with no recorded vote in the transcript.
Adopt revised code of ethics investigation and enforcement ordinance, as amended (one person to gather facts; board hears complaint first) Nancy L. Bushika (Chair)seconded: Speaker 8passed
Speaker 10 earlier moved to 'sign it ... as it was originally written with the one person doing the [investigation]'; board changed course so the board (quorum) initially hears the complaint and one fact-finder is used only if needed. Chair reads the agenda item; Speaker 8: 'I second your motion.' Vote: 'All in favor? Aye. Done. Start the process, Lori.'
Appoint planning commission alternates: Stephanie Shelburne (first alternate, planning), Angela Trudeau (first alternate, ZBA), Carol Saldo (next opening, any board) Speaker 14seconded: Speaker 8passed
“I will make a motion to appoint. Stephanie as ultimate number one. For the planning board. Angela for ultimate number one. For the DBA. And what else. Carol for any potential openings.”
'All in favor. Aye.' No count stated. Letters of interest received: June 27 (Stephanie Shelburne), June 30 (Angela Trudeau), July 7 (Carol Saldo). Appointments are as alternates only, pending written resignation of the planning commissioner (Dave).
Sign two uniform municipal access permits (Beacon sales, a roofing supply business) mover not statedpassed
Heavily garbled: 'motion to sign both of these' followed by 'motion made a motion second all in favor.' $10 fee paid and certificate of insurance on file.
Enter executive session (personnel; probable civil litigation) mover not statedpassed
Garbled: 'could i have a motion to go in executive session for personnel ... or probable civil litigation ... motion to go in second all in favor.'
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Come out of executive session Kurt and Doug (per transcript; Douglas Wright and Kurt Gamari per attendees list)passed
'Here's our motion to come out of executive session by Kurt and Doug. All in favor? Aye.'
Ratify executive session actions: listers' hourly rate set based on qualifications and experience; assistant town clerk up to 25 hours/week with salary based on experience; advise the attorney to proceed as outlined Nancy L. Bushika (Chair)seconded: Speaker 11passed
'That's the motion. Second. All in favor? Aye.'
Adjourn Speaker 49passed
“Motion to adjourn.”
Chair: 'Kurt, all in favor?' - 'Aye. Okay. That's it.' (address is garbled; no second recorded)

Other decisions

Earlier executive session reportChair reports 'no action taken' coming out of the earlier executive session; a resident disputes that an action (sending a letter) was taken without a vote.
Third road worker job offerBoard posted a job offer for a third road worker; agreement in principle on a starting wage around $25/hour (negotiable, more with a CDL license), but no wage was posted on the listing.
East Road grant statusAOT confirms the construction grant (good until 2027) can be signed once the project is defined; town is seeking an estimate for an aluminum box, collar, and headwalls, which will still exceed the grant, so the town will probably need to ask the March town meeting for money.
911 house numbering planNo ordinance change tonight. Board agreed to place an amendment raising the civil penalties (current: $10 initial / $15 second within six months / $20 subsequent) on the next meeting's agenda, and to re-survey the town (last survey ~5 years ago). Laurie (Lori) will send out reminder letters. Emergency management coordinator has authority to enter non-compliant premises, install signs/posts, and charge the owner reasonable costs.
School building ownershipA selectboard member (Speaker 8) stated all three deeds show the residents of Stamford own the building and that the town must never let ownership pass to a regional education alliance; town and fire department should keep access/keys.
Planning commission statusPlanning commission chair asked the selectboard to confirm the full commission; possible vacancy. Board appointed three alternates instead and will wait for the commissioner's (Dave's) written resignation before confirming. Town plan is due within a year and bylaws are being rewritten, both with BCRC grant support, so a functioning board is needed.
Recycling centerWood chips: the recycling agency still offers them (now extra rather than included; 6 bales delivered) - will see the bill before deciding. Put rule signs on all containers (some already have them); possibly print rules on the back of punch cards. Nancy (chair) is the Bennington County Solid Waste Alliance town rep (4 meetings/year, Zoom) and is looking for a successor.
Employee policy handbook reviewDeferred ('kick that one down the road'); a Monday 10:00 working session with Lori tentatively set.
Joint meeting with schoolAfter a good joint meeting a couple weeks ago, the superintendent/principal will provide a breakdown of what the town can take over vs. the school; board wants to set a second joint meeting at the end of that session instead of only meeting once a year.

Who owes what (18)

ActionOwnerBy whenNoteWhere it stands
Work up the amended code of ethics ordinance language (one fact-finder; board hears complaint first) and start the adoption/publication processLori (town clerk)—14-day publication window is the issue - adoption and signing must line up in the schedule.open
no date in the minutes
Make 911 number signs: one for Speaker 10 ($16 to Laurie) and one for Speaker 8's new propertyBill (with Laurie taking the payment)by next meetingForms available at the meeting.open
no date in the minutes
Place the 911 numbering ordinance amendment (higher fines) on the next selectboard meeting agendaSelectboard (chair to put it on the agenda)next meetingProposed by Speaker 20 (Bill); chair agreed.open
no date in the minutes
¶ ¶431
Re-survey the town for missing or unreadable 911 numbers (last survey ~5 years ago)Bill and John (per transcript)—Chair: 'Do you and John want to do it again?' Survey needed before fines are enforced.open
no date in the minutes
Send out 911 reminder lettersLori (Laurie)—open
no date in the minutes
Get a contractor estimate for the East Road alternative project (aluminum box, collar, headwalls)Dave (Speaker 5)before March town meeting askWill determine how much the town must ask the town meeting.open
no date in the minutes
Ask the March town meeting for funding for the East Road bridge (amount TBD after estimate)Selectboard / town meetingMarchopen
no date in the minutes
¶ ¶73
Obtain Dave's (planning commissioner) written resignation before confirming the full planning commissionDave (planning commissioner)—Board wants everything in writing; 'official letter' requested.open
no date in the minutes
Have planning commission vacancy information by the next meeting—next meetingSpeaker 8: 'I would like to have this information by next meeting.' (who gathers it not stated)open
no date in the minutes
¶ ¶601
Finish local emergency plan and send to the school, including new emergency operations coordinator (Stephanie Schalberg); get proper school contact info (new principal)Bob (Speaker 27)—School board chair is Cindy; email found: Julie Slanson. Map legibility issue in the document was fixed.open
no date in the minutes
¶ ¶223
Follow up with the sign maker on the enlarged town sign (state allows 64-inch letters); work out mounting (remove outside steel frame to lighten)——Design approved from the original project; fire department volunteer will move the manlift from Fluff Road.open
no date in the minutes
Look into mini-split heat/AC for the town office: talk to Joe Veresky, get about three quotes, look into the technologyMike (three quotes); Speaker 8 (talk to Joe); Speaker 50 (technology)—About $1,600 installed per unit; about $3,000 for two; 30% incentive mentioned; room currently heated by oil.open
no date in the minutes
Review the second quarter financials and raise questions with Lori by the next meetingSelectboardnext meetingopen
no date in the minutes
Decide on wood chip source after the bill arrives (6 bales delivered)Selectboard—open
no date in the minutes
Put rule signs on all recycling containers; consider printing rules on the back of punch cards——Some containers already have signs.open
no date in the minutes
Find a successor town rep for the Bennington County Solid Waste Alliance (4 meetings/year, Zoom)Selectboard—Nancy (chair) is the current rep and willing to share/step down after a couple years.open
no date in the minutes
¶ ¶160
Set a second joint meeting with the school board and ask the superintendent for the cost breakdown (town vs. school)Selectboard—open
no date in the minutes
Keep recruiting: third road worker (~$25/hr), recycling center fill-in worker, and listers if neededSelectboard / Dave—open
no date in the minutes
Statuses come from data/action_status.json, which only a person changes; "overdue" means the minutes gave a date and that date has passed. Mark one done with scripts/action_status.py --done "a phrase".

Money (12)

East Road bridge replacement (AOT construction grant)¶ ¶57Job itself cost $2.25M; grant was $160,000; $30,000 ARPA funds were used for other things; grant good until 2027; additional town money needed (amount TBD) at the March town meeting.—
East Road concrete box alternative (estimate)Preferred alternative is aluminum box, collar, and headwalls - estimate pending.$600,000 (approx., 'almost $600,000')
Lincoln Road bridge (past project)Board says matching was worth it; the bridge 'up on Wanda' will be about $1M; still probably $1.5M of road work to add.$500,000
Chip seal programTypically ~$200,000 per project on ~5-year rotations; Clark's area quoted ~$1M per mile; County Road quote garbled in transcript (figures around $400,000-$600,000 mentioned); next year's chip seal to be expanded to Mill Road, County Road, Jefferson Road.—
Fire truck (past)¶ ¶218Now over $100,000 more than when originally quoted; town had been setting aside ~$50,000/year for 2-3 years.—
Third road worker starting wageBoard agreement in principle; negotiable, more with a CDL; no wage posted on the listing.$25/hour (approx.)
911 number signs and fines¶ ¶407Signs ~$16 each (fire department cost); current civil penalties $10/$15/$20; board wants them increased (a $10-per-day noncompliance figure was discussed); amendment to be placed on next meeting's agenda.—
Municipal access permits - Beacon sales¶ ¶702Fee paid; certificate of insurance on file; two permits signed.$10
Town office mini-split heat/AC30% incentive mentioned; room currently heated by oil; quotes to be obtained.$1,600 per unit installed; ~$3,000 for two
Recycling wood chips¶ ¶1666 bales delivered; cost TBD - will see the bill before deciding.—
Second quarter financials¶ ¶726Provided by Lori for review; discuss by next meeting.—
Grants: BCRC (town plan + bylaws rewrite), FY26 Sportsman's & Rolling grant in aid, Better Back Roads¶ ¶679Jim Henderson/BCRC agreement presented for signature; a Better Back Roads grant is planned for a back road 'up by Lisa's'; town plan due within a year.—

Public comment (6)

Speaker 1Complaint that at the last meeting the board took action in executive session (sending a letter, dictating it to the clerk) with no vote while residents waited outside; chair acknowledges an oversight, says 'no action taken', and apologizes.
Speaker 8Defends the board's handling of the same episode, saying the public was aware of it; exchange ends with the chair thanking 'Jim' and saying the board will try to be more careful.
Speaker 50During the code-of-ethics discussion, says past complaints were not addressed by the board and asks how the new process will actually work; is asked if she still wants to speak and says 'I'll see what happens.'
Speaker 10During the 911 numbering discussion, asks about implementation and offers $16 to have a number sign made.
Speaker 46Offers to install 911 number signs (riveted to a metal pipe and driven into the ground) for an hour's wage plus materials.
Speaker 23Notes that the assistant town clerk and treasurer position is open while job postings are being discussed.

Follow-ups named in the minutes

What the extraction was unsure about

Transcript

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Speaker 2: Oh

Speaker 4: So I think what was done before you do we have any do we take any action?

Speaker 6: You were dictating it to Laurie when we walked in. Oh, sorry. Well, did we come out?

Speaker 7: These oversights are just starting to get a lot

Speaker 8: They were.

Speaker 10: We didn't. We didn't make any building name.

Speaker 11: Me too.

Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I was here. Yeah, four.

Speaker 13: Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 13: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 10: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 14: Well, I can tell you that right now that concrete box is almost $600,000.

Speaker 15: The cost of the project. Yeah.

Speaker 15: Are you talking about East Road after it's been painted?

Speaker 17: They told me around August.

Speaker 18: it before you know it and see the clark's burger or that you know let's see we ever

Speaker 14: I mean, you could take out a loan.

Speaker 20: Yeah.

Speaker 13: I'm not sure where everyone's at.

Speaker 13: Gauge and temperature, where everyone's at.

Speaker 13: It's got people that see the long run.

Speaker 21: That seems to be lacking more and more often.

Speaker 23: That's three.

Speaker 7: Right.

Speaker 24: We do have some.

Speaker 10: That's on our agenda, right? Yeah.

Speaker 25: Okay.

Speaker 25: It was a hot one.

Speaker 26: Yeah.

Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13: We're all free.

Speaker 27: Yes.

Speaker 24: Right.

Speaker 14: There still is a sawmill in town.

Speaker 12: Yeah.

Speaker 27: cardboard boxes. You've got to break it down. They don't always bring

Speaker 28: They probably don't read them anymore.

Speaker 12: Where the boat takes it?

Speaker 12: PVC.

Speaker 20: It's not a simple...

Speaker 29: lit it on fire.

Speaker 26: Well, I put last year's local emergency plan and just added the new DOC on that we put on.

Speaker 30: The what?

Speaker 26: The emergency operations coordinator. We added Stephanie Schalberg onto the group.

Speaker 26: I changed the website that I had on last year. Okay. But I'm struggling to get the information from the school as far as proper contact information for setting up the you know, we're not going to set up something for Bob. So it's not really, there's not a change on that. Is that the one I sent you, Lori?

Speaker 26: Yep.

Speaker 26: That was your contact. Oh.

Speaker 31: I don't know if he's still here.

Speaker 28: Well, our zoning map.

Speaker 26: . Oh, yeah, that looks better, yeah.

Speaker 26: Visually, when we sent it to the school, it was the same.

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Speaker 36: funds. So then all you have to do is change.

Speaker 37: Well we've got to change the ordinance first. Adding that to this

Speaker 37: Maybe add that to the reminders. I think it's, did she put it right on

Speaker 20: and. We went up, when I went with you

Speaker 38: they're going to ignore it the same way they did before.

Speaker 13: Do you remember Bill, how many houses roughly, percentage-wise, didn't have the signs five years ago?

Speaker 39: I'd say 125. Why not just make them and send them

Speaker 40: to make it look like a city. But if I recall, like my address

Speaker 41: Well more, yeah, more than now.

Speaker 42: It's all somewhere in the documentation of when we started. I don't know how it works

Speaker 29: And we can see it. Let's do it.

Speaker 43: Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4: Why don't they put them up now? I have a proposition.

Speaker 44: I will yield to Bill any day, but C.J. was here a couple of times,

Speaker 45: I would be willing to purchase the signs, rivet them to a metal pipe,

Speaker 41: how do we know if people comply

Speaker 41: through the town again

Speaker 46: Well, yeah.

Speaker 12: I'd go at least $25.

Speaker 25: of noncompliance.

Speaker 10: I was going to say that again. You said it was 10 each day?

Speaker 25: I thought there was a...

Speaker 12: I don't think it should be every day.

Speaker 2: coordinator.

Speaker 13: You got another job.

Speaker 28: associated therewith.

Speaker 35: Well, really, all you're doing

Speaker 47: We could use that part of it.

Speaker 48: Criminal court? 911. $60.

Speaker 41: Yes.

Speaker 46: How would you just

Speaker 49: when they call in.

Speaker 41: a 911 number.

Speaker 29: The state knows.

Speaker 12: They probably don't have

Speaker 14: the first left.

Speaker 25: Would you say it's a long driveway

Speaker 14: and give it a high attention.

Speaker 20: Some of it has to be

Speaker 20: where to call it as part of the road.

Speaker 14: He's got a phone in his hand.

Speaker 29: We're outside.

Speaker 50: Can I speak here a minute?

Speaker 10: or intimidated. It is.

Speaker 10: what we are doing. Let's try it. See how it goes. Again, we talked about this for three meetings in a row.

Speaker 51: My feeling

Speaker 48: is too many foots spoil the broth. We make it needlessly complicated. We are not trying to find out what happened to D.B. Cooper. We are not trying to find out if there was a second gunman in Dallas. There was. Somebody comes up.

Speaker 10: No.

Speaker 47: I wasn't even a parcel of my daddy's bag.

Speaker 48: But anyway and I wish I had never used the word investigation. This should be more of a fact finding. Very simple. It said who, what, when, where. And now I am going to throw out just another idea for consideration. Cut out the middle man or the middle woman completely. When a person makes a complaint they have to fill out a form and bring it send it up to us. What would prevent us from interviewing that person ourselves. At least a quorum. We didn't have to have everybody here. Have the person who has been accused of doing something wrong. We want to hear what people have meant. And then we can sit among ourselves and say okay I would like a little more information here. A little more information

Speaker 48: And I'd like to think the best of people but there is a potential that this could be weaponized. You know I don't like

Speaker 52: so and so. They are a problem.

Speaker 48: That's not what it's intended for.

Speaker 49: Lisa? I was just wondering if there could be a difference from right now where I don't feel like complaints are really being addressed from my own personal experience. Complaints weren't addressed by the board so how is it going to be done? Really? No one ever talked to me about this.

Speaker 48: Well this we are trying to settle that now and this will give you the option to come in and sit.

Speaker 53: I thought

Speaker 53: to have happen.

Speaker 49: I requested though to come speak to the board.

Speaker 54: Yeah.

Speaker 55: or I definitely would have asked you

Speaker 49: and I personally would have. Okay.

Speaker 35: Then it won't be as

Speaker 48: What about having that come directly to the board? I like that. People talk about it?

Speaker 12: So we should just take out on

Speaker 56: oh no.

Speaker 52: We've got to worry.

Speaker 48: Worry about somebody from the board themselves.

Speaker 25: We need to move it on.

Speaker 57: The select board should initially

Speaker 48: hear

Speaker 57: get the complaint

Speaker 48: and interview the complainant

Speaker 58: and be accused.

Speaker 57: And then after that

Speaker 48: then if we need more information then we can send something out. Right.

Speaker 57: Even if I went to the state

Speaker 10: I agree.

Speaker 59: I think we're good, Lori.

Speaker 59: and sign it and then it's a meeting?

Speaker 60: which I can't do because you haven't signed it

Speaker 48: that was made? I don't know. Is it clear about the way it's written? They want to have it

Speaker 56: write it

Speaker 59: But I thought you said it's got to be

Speaker 59: for your review.

Speaker 55: Move forward on it.

Speaker 12: we'll work with that.

Speaker 25: I want to put this forward.

Speaker 12: But we are going to do it.

Speaker 61: I will.

Speaker 56: Monday morning.

Speaker 57: This coming Monday?

Speaker 28: Lori, we good for Monday at 10?

Speaker 12: No. Do you give breaks?

Speaker 25: What's your lunch? Hours? No lunch.

Speaker 62: Don't need it.

Speaker 25: Good.

Speaker 63: Huh?

Speaker 12: That's a whole different...

Speaker 48: Should it be us or should it be the planning commission to reach out?

Speaker 52: We appointed them.

Speaker 49: He said that it was done. That it did get done.

Speaker 54: He thought it was going to carry on.

Speaker 25: And find out.

Speaker 64: Who's this now?

Speaker 65: BCRC.

Speaker 66: Jim Sullivan sat here for two years.

Speaker 67: Yes.

Speaker 68: And for the town plan.

Speaker 33: So, you have to do the town plan first?

Speaker 13: No. They want us to do it all at the same time. There's no deadline for the bylaws. There's a deadline for the town plan. Right. The town plan has to be done within the next year.

Speaker 69: They're already done. We want to do them.

Speaker 25: Now they are effective now.

Speaker 70: I had to get a piece of cardboard and put it out there that says town hall.

Speaker 25: So I would like this.

Speaker 25: Right.

Speaker 49: We're good. But no. I mean I've watched those meetings and you're right.

Speaker 49: Yeah. I mean if you got an official letter tomorrow could you tell Peter and we could then continue on?

Speaker 35: Alternates.

Speaker 71: That person if that person voted on that then from that time forward.

Speaker 59: We did not advertise for the position.

Speaker 56: No we did not.

Speaker 25: Let's wait and see what happens.

Speaker 12: We have nothing.

Speaker 13: But everybody wants to be on your planning. I will make a motion to appoint. Stephanie as ultimate number one. For the planning board. Angela for ultimate number one. For the DBA. And what else. Carol for any potential openings.

Speaker 72: Is there an alternate.

Speaker 10: All in favor.

Speaker 2: Oh he is.

Speaker 26: That's good.

Speaker 30: Current like that.

Speaker 25: When I'm done with this.

Speaker 12: As long as you're still on.

Speaker 56: and anything else under correspondence so Jim Sullivan has been working with

Speaker 14: That's still in limbo

Speaker 25: We're working on it

Speaker 49: Dave, do you have a plan for that then? What's that? Do you have a plan? Is it going to cut new properties? No, we're not doing that

Speaker 59: Better back roads

Speaker 24: They're always changing

Speaker 24: You notice that too

Speaker 24: It's grown in and it fills right in

Speaker 25: breakdown i guess yeah so what we could and we can't what the town can take over versus the

Speaker 73: school anyway is that that we're going to we're just going to look at it did they get back to us

Speaker 25: yes yes so that we did go in on their meeting did we ever um sat another date for another one of

Speaker 25: decides to take all these kids somewhere else yeah the other thing too is they said that the local school board will just be advisory and if they change if they change the the regions

Speaker 60: sign makers i have not even followed up with them all right so yeah it's your fault no she's busy

Speaker 28: you know your rules what's your what's the um what is this i go a little bit more 64

Speaker 53: that's having something that's going on is that a fire department volunteer job has to come move

Speaker 14: you want to have somebody that calculates the weight yeah yeah if it falls on some kid

Speaker 52: put that in there and we can have a write-up about the whole history of the stars i don't

Speaker 12: paper yeah once about a time you know there was a sign okay go down just put that back out there

Speaker 25: i don't like it the first one no the big one

Speaker 8: no are you kidding me oh my goodness you gotta pull you gotta pull up to it stop your vehicle

Speaker 12: going to follow the plate on my rifle range that's not a real color cow either the golf

Speaker 25: right down behind the golf course i don't know okay let's move on here and uh all right um

Speaker 26: there you can't breathe yep air conditioning they're great they tend to struggle when you get

Speaker 74: below like 35 degrees with the heat yeah i mean even at that we already got heat so i'm just saying

Speaker 75: only heat source this is the only thing for this room so we can look into what it would

Speaker 7: year and then every time i walk in it says 67 years it's just perfect all the time yeah

Speaker 49: look into it for the technology that is the mini split system it gets better and better so they're now kind of closer to 20 degrees now yeah than they used to be

Speaker 49: again you're not you're not talking to keep this room comfortable all the time oh right we're not

Speaker 25: not you no no no i didn't say with you i'd like to get a new rug for out there because that's been in

Speaker 76: you

Speaker 49: Did you add the yellow flowers in after? No, they were there. They were? Yeah. They do look beautiful.

Speaker 76: Thank you.

Speaker 65: Good enough.

Speaker 10: Second.

Speaker 10: All right.

Speaker 48: Motion to adjourn. Sorry.

Speaker 57: I think she should wait.

Speaker 48: Aye. Okay. That's it.

Transcribed 2026-09-04 (faster-whisper large-v3, CUDA; names corrected per data/name_fixes.json). Names corrected against the minutes. Diarization is automated and over-splits one person into several labels. Raw model output with timestamps: SRT.