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Sorry, I'm sorry

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There it is, okay

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Not included on the agenda you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address

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You will notice that all our meetings are recorded and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes

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Visitors are welcome and we allow five minutes of conversation

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comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic

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Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others select board members present are Mike DeRome, Nancy Brescica,

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Will there be any adding of items or removing items from tonight's agenda

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Will there be any adjustments to the agenda such as changing the order of items

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so and

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Jeb is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video

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alright

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We just came out of executive session and no no action taken

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hearing the visitors

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Yes

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Last meeting I just want to know on the record last meeting you guys went to executive session

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We waited outside

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for the outcome

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Whatever it was and it was done well

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Before we were allowed to come back in

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So I think what was done before you do we have any do we take any action?

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Yeah, or the action was is that you were sending the person a letter

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You were dictating it to Laurie when we walked in. Oh, sorry. Well, did we come out?

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There was no vote taken. No what?

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Well, it's an oversight. So sorry. Sorry it happened and

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These oversights are just starting to get a lot

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I disagree I think we have very few

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a lot less than the planning board has

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You ever see those meetings

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Yeah, there you go

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No, you should since there are a lot of hand people get way out of hand I love sports

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Watch your meetings, you can see them. I know you're there to give I a hand

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I'm making a statement about something that occurred.

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Right, and I'm defending this board saying it's very...

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Absolutely, absolutely. I use it for an example.

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Okay, so...

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This is the second time you put this board down, Jim, in two weeks.

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Second time you put this board down in two weeks.

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You know what? There's elections coming up next March.

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I don't know part of it.

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Well, there you go.

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Jim, can I say something?

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I like doing what I'm doing.

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And so don't we. And we do our best.

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I didn't... I have a person... I have not...

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You did put this board down two weeks in a row now.

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Don't say you didn't on that video.

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I just want the public to be aware of the action that you took.

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They were.

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Without...

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They were.

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Coming back into the public meeting.

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They were. The public was aware of it.

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You were aware of it.

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You just said you were aware of it.

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You were walking in when it was happening because I opened the door for you guys.

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And she was dictating it while the door was open.

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An action was taken and there was no vote and we didn't even get a lot of...

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There wasn't a vote.

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I didn't see that.

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Right. There wasn't a vote. It was an executive session.

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When we came out...

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I'm lost.

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But when we came out, maybe we didn't make the vote when we came out.

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I was just making... I wanted to make... be aware of it.

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I don't know.

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Is this the one where we requested Dave to come?

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I believe so, yes.

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Meeting executive.

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I don't believe we made any action.

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We just haven't heard...

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We didn't.

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We didn't make any building name.

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Thank you, Jim.

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We'll try to be more careful.

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Me too.

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Yes, we did say this one when we came out, no action taken.

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Any other visitors?

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Reading and approval of records and orders.

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June 12th, June 19th, and June 24th.

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What was the June 24th? The school one?

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Special select board meeting.

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June 24th.

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June 24th.

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June 24th.

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And then we went over there?

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It's not on here, right?

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No, I forgot the June 24th.

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That was the one that Dave saw there.

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Motion to approve all three.

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Yeah, I think I was here.

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Looks like everybody was here on all three.

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June 12th.

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How'd you make out with the man door?

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Um, I got something to do with .

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So that's .

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But it didn't happen, but they haven't done anything really heavy or something.

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An alternative project for the East Road call work replacement.

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Is that the grant, the East Road grant?

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So I talked to the AOT about that.

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He said it would be cool once I came up with the project, but we could sign it.

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We're not going to lose the grant.

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So we're not going to lose the grant.

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As long as it complies with what they want.

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So we can sign that.

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They can sign that and send it back.

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I don't believe.

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I talked with the contractor.

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I'm trying to get an estimate on what would be an aluminum box, collar, and headwalls.

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And I believe that's still going to be more of what the grant's for.

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So we're still going to have to probably go to the March meeting and ask for money.

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So it's not.

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And the grant's good until 2027.

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I mean, it's really pretty typical.

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We get these grants.

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We don't have enough money.

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So we have to go and ask anyway.

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So we're not behind them.

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We've just got the grants.

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But like I said, I am working to try to get an economical project.

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This initially stated concrete box.

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Corey and I worked on that.

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And we were trying to get a mitigation grant originally to probably fund the concrete box.

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So we used the same paperwork and the construction grant.

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And ended up getting a construction grant after we did get the grant.

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So you don't know how much we might have to ask at town meeting?

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Not yet.

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I should be getting an estimate.

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That seems to be what will comply with what the state wants.

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So they're in charge of what actually has to go there.

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Either way, it's not a project.

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We're going to be able to do 100% ourselves.

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We may be able to include ourselves.

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I'm not really sure how I feel about the last time that we did that.

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We worked on the Lincoln Road project.

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It took a lot of our summer.

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So a lot of it we're going to see on the 12th of July.

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How much did we get when we matched that grant on Lincoln Road?

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Was it worth it?

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I know we lost time.

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Well, I can tell you that right now that concrete box is almost $600,000.

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And I think we got that bridge in for $500,000.

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So the bridge up on Wanda is going to be million.

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So, yeah, I think, personally, I think it was worth it.

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But, you know, it's a higher selling residence.

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They have to deal with bones longer.

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And, you know, sometimes some of the addition that should be done doesn't get done.

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Maybe some of them all didn't.

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It's a juggling game.

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You guys are thinking the same thing I'm thinking, right?

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Is that a couple?

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Is that a third?

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So, yeah, I think it was worth it.

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Because now all the things that did get let go are caught up and we're still probably

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a million and a half to add.

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That's all.

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Thank you.

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I mean, that's my reasoning on it.

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One thing, Dave, you're always looking out for the money because you're a taxpayer here,

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too, that you want to do what's best for the town and do what the grant says but still

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kind of mold it to our town.

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And that's why we do the chip ceiling.

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That's the same thing.

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It's significantly less than the cost.

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I know that, you know, it's not desirable for a couple of weeks.

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It's going to be some loose stones, a car.

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But after it's all swept, you don't even forget about it.

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Think about it.

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It's probably a third of the cost of the thing that we made.

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Instead of $225,000 on the project, we're driving back to $26,000 to $700,000 on the

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Can I ask Dave a question?

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Yes.

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What?

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So, are you talking about the cost of the project?

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The cost of the project.

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The cost of the project.

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The cost of the project.

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The cost of the project.

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The cost of the project.

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The cost of the project.

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Thank you.

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Deanna is asking a question.

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Yes.

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What

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Are you talking about East Road after it's been painted?

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Do you want the , are you talking?

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It's already been...

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This is año.

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So now the will come in August.

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They told me around August.

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How much was that?

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I'm curious.

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10 meters 10 meters i mean we could get longer but we go 10 because there's a

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kind of a formula where you start it starts to cost you that much more and it gives you

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a lot of shade and you have to spend more like the dirt yeah so yeah i think it's a great way i mean

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i believe anyway that our roads are in a lot better shape as a hole than

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anybody around you know i agree you know not everybody applies the same technique but i think

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you're going to see that this kind of goes on i think clark's burger is actually kind of on

272
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they're going to start doing some of it it's kind of like our sand you know i started using

273
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it before you know it and see the clark's burger or that you know let's see we ever

274
00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:25,480
we ever gonna circle back around to the black topping issue

275
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i mean especially jepson road it's black top dirt black top it just makes sense to touch them

276
00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:39,399
together it's kind of a hard sell i think initially that sticker shock of it but you know i believe

277
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:48,279
well we got a quote i was told in clark's where it was a million dollars a mile you got a quote for

278
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up and county road all the way to what doug's house or something

279
00:13:53,159 --> 00:13:55,879
for four hundred thousand dollars less it was what six hundred

280
00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,759
six hundred dollars i mean that's a lot more than a mile it seems like it's pretty tough

281
00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:04,600
yeah tougher road than what clark's were just did carter's road was pretty easy

282
00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:10,679
they maybe they had more because they had to dig up the old black top you sell that yeah that falls

283
00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:16,120
all into why we maintain them and we don't let it get too bad yeah because once you start milling and

284
00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,480
you know and also the chip seal is a thin layer you know you can do a bunch of thin layers

285
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before you before the rope fills up too much

286
00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,470
right

287
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right

288
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right

289
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in the northeast and there's no panels there is no perfect solution anyway i mean look they spent

290
00:14:31,409 --> 00:14:36,929
all this money milling the main road a few years ago drive up through the winter there's a bunch of

291
00:14:36,929 --> 00:14:44,759
frost eaves and bumps or cracks and how much did that cost you know so you couldn't probably get

292
00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:49,720
away with the chip seal on the main road you know the heavy truck traffic so they're kind of forced

293
00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:58,190
into it yeah but i think for our small town roads it's perfect right like i said there's two

294
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getting ahead and

295
00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:06,860
the skills that you have to have to maintain a dirt road and the hour like the operator

296
00:15:06,860 --> 00:15:12,940
hours you know you're digging up ditches more and gravel you know depends on the weather you know

297
00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:20,639
when you're sanding in the winter time i know you told me before when you sand

298
00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:24,360
there's a difference between sanding and gravel and you know dirt roll versus

299
00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,519
road so when you sand gepscom road

300
00:15:29,769 --> 00:15:33,029
What, do you shut the truck off, go up, do the other side,

301
00:15:33,129 --> 00:15:34,590
then you come back with a different truck?

302
00:15:34,730 --> 00:15:35,870
It gets interesting.

303
00:15:36,070 --> 00:15:40,990
So typically on the paved road is treated first with some salt, right?

304
00:15:41,049 --> 00:15:43,210
I'll walk pre-treat kind of before the storm.

305
00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:46,350
So then when I'm going around again, I'm carrying some sand,

306
00:15:46,870 --> 00:15:49,789
and I get plowed the first time because the salt's already in the center

307
00:15:49,789 --> 00:15:52,519
and I've got to stay close again, right?

308
00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:58,200
So then I'll deal with the gravel section.

309
00:15:59,679 --> 00:16:00,200
Right.

310
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,799
So it's a little bit of a job, but we make it work.

311
00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:07,279
It would be a lot more efficient if they were all paved.

312
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,820
Well, I was talking to the fire chief the other day,

313
00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:12,279
and we talked about the new fire truck.

314
00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:20,580
And the praise that he gave this board was amazing of the acting on the,

315
00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:25,539
you know, the swiftness of buying that fire truck and acting quickly versus,

316
00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:27,980
yeah, let's talk about it, talk about it, talk about it.

317
00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:34,100
But that truck now is well over $100,000 more than what it was when we pulled the trucker on it.

318
00:16:34,740 --> 00:16:37,100
And we're talking $100,000 like that.

319
00:16:37,860 --> 00:16:39,320
This is the same scenario.

320
00:16:40,490 --> 00:16:43,850
Two years from now, that blacktop's going to cost, that one we're talking about there,

321
00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:45,450
it will be a million dollars.

322
00:16:45,889 --> 00:16:48,710
Whatever this one I put on Jepson Road is going to be more.

323
00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:49,629
We know it's going to be more.

324
00:16:50,149 --> 00:16:57,129
We should at least put this in our warrant articles and say let's start putting money away, you know,

325
00:16:57,129 --> 00:16:58,200
when we're going to be able to get it out.

326
00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,860
You know, I don't know what we did with a fire fireman.

327
00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:03,500
We put like $50,000 a year away for three, two, three years.

328
00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,059
At least try something, you know, shoot for a goal instead of talking about this.

329
00:17:08,059 --> 00:17:09,160
It makes sense to me.

330
00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,559
I mean, you could take out a loan.

331
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,960
I mean, just think about this.

332
00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:15,220
An employee is $100,000 a year, right?

333
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,299
You've got $600,000 that can be paid off in six years.

334
00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:19,640
Yeah.

335
00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:23,500
In six years, and it's going to last longer than that, right?

336
00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:29,079
And then you're not being able to come up, you're not throwing all that money into the road.

337
00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:39,420
For, you know, as time goes on, and there's no gravel pits in the area, and you've got to haul that stuff in.

338
00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,240
It's convenient right now.

339
00:17:42,339 --> 00:17:44,019
It's fairly convenient to grab the road.

340
00:17:44,299 --> 00:17:48,740
Because I can make a phone call and have material all the time, right?

341
00:17:49,059 --> 00:17:49,839
For the most part.

342
00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:53,539
That's not going to be, that's not long-term.

343
00:17:54,420 --> 00:17:56,740
In our lifetime, I'm guessing.

344
00:17:56,740 --> 00:18:00,519
Well, I really suggest that the board, you know, pushes this.

345
00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:06,039
And at least, you know, puts out a warning article to throw some money into an account.

346
00:18:07,099 --> 00:18:09,670
You know, I'd like to do it sooner to better.

347
00:18:09,829 --> 00:18:10,730
Just like I think we'll do.

348
00:18:11,849 --> 00:18:14,109
Consider that in March, you give two choices.

349
00:18:14,769 --> 00:18:15,069
Yeah.

350
00:18:15,369 --> 00:18:18,890
We'll either take a loan and do that section of Jefferson Road now.

351
00:18:19,009 --> 00:18:19,210
Right.

352
00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:21,829
Or start putting money away to do it.

353
00:18:22,329 --> 00:18:22,509
Yeah.

354
00:18:22,509 --> 00:18:24,710
In a minute, you put the money away.

355
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:26,670
I think that's almost spinning your wheels, too.

356
00:18:26,869 --> 00:18:29,589
But it's at least a, you'd have to be a doctor.

357
00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:30,970
I'm not sure where everyone's at.

358
00:18:31,269 --> 00:18:32,769
What's that?

359
00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:34,769
Gauge and temperature, where everyone's at.

360
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:35,710
Sure, yeah.

361
00:18:35,789 --> 00:18:36,470
It's not our money.

362
00:18:36,569 --> 00:18:37,269
I understand that.

363
00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:44,000
But you say it's a tough sell, but you sold me, and I don't like to spend money either.

364
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,500
And I think that most people that have a head on their shoulders will look at it and say,

365
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,119
in the long run, this is better.

366
00:18:50,859 --> 00:18:52,500
It's got people that see the long run.

367
00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:54,299
That seems to be lacking more and more often.

368
00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:55,740
Laurie has a question.

369
00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:00,599
Jefferson Road is a Class II road, so there are Class II grades available.

370
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:01,799
Correct.

371
00:19:02,099 --> 00:19:02,500
Nice.

372
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,180
Now, what about County Road?

373
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,000
Is that Class II?

374
00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:06,900
That's three.

375
00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:07,519
What about Mill?

376
00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:08,279
It's Bill's Road.

377
00:19:08,420 --> 00:19:09,240
That's Class II?

378
00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:09,960
That's three.

379
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,619
That's three all the way up, the whole thing?

380
00:19:12,779 --> 00:19:12,980
That's two.

381
00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:14,000
Okay.

382
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,940
I think the lane will, too.

383
00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:18,319
One of the factors is it connects.

384
00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:21,359
It's a connector road, so it connects to Max and Vermont.

385
00:19:21,859 --> 00:19:23,440
How easy would Class II be?

386
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,819
What about if it's connected?

387
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,759
I mean, if you want to factor in Kwan, though.

388
00:19:28,220 --> 00:19:28,619
No.

389
00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:30,779
That's what I was thinking, yeah.

390
00:19:30,859 --> 00:19:31,839
We could play the game.

391
00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:32,500
I thought about that.

392
00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:37,900
Yeah, but there's other factors in the plan that it doesn't mean that it's going to go up.

393
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,160
Right.

394
00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:39,859
But we could look into that.

395
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:46,400
So next year, actually, is our year to do another Chipsy on the project that's on the motor roads.

396
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:57,180
So I was hoping to try to add some in, like get estimates for Mill Road, County Road,

397
00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,220
Jefferson Road.

398
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,759
Sure, that would be nice.

399
00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:03,460
Those are our high maintenance roads.

400
00:20:03,460 --> 00:20:08,930
You know, we're typically, you know, there's a lot more traffic, washboards, we can keep going back.

401
00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:09,970
Mm-hmm.

402
00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:16,319
You know, we'd have to keep these roads.

403
00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:18,829
Mm-hmm.

404
00:20:19,829 --> 00:20:20,829
You know, it's...

405
00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:27,660
Um, we typically spend around $200,000.

406
00:20:27,660 --> 00:20:31,440
I think last time we spent like $200,000 or something like that on the next project.

407
00:20:32,420 --> 00:20:38,140
But seeing as East Road got done this year from the grant, we're in good shape.

408
00:20:38,140 --> 00:20:38,500
Right.

409
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:40,619
And you go every five years when you do a Chipsy?

410
00:20:40,619 --> 00:20:43,500
It's not, I know it last time, but you do five rotations.

411
00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:43,980
Five, yes.

412
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,200
So we do roughly half and half.

413
00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:46,440
Yeah.

414
00:20:47,299 --> 00:20:50,680
So was the grant two and a quarter, or was that our contribution?

415
00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:52,500
Was it a $500,000 project?

416
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:56,920
No, it was a, the job itself cost two and a quarter.

417
00:20:57,059 --> 00:21:00,000
I believe the grant was for $160,000.

418
00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:02,180
We had ARPA funds for some of it.

419
00:21:03,019 --> 00:21:03,440
$30,000.

420
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,859
We were going to use ARPA funds for the remainder, but we couldn't do that.

421
00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:07,200
Right.

422
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,599
So...

423
00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:08,480
We do have some.

424
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:13,519
We did use $30,000 for other things, but we didn't use the money for a lot of other things.

425
00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:13,759
Gotcha.

426
00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:15,019
Yeah.

427
00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:17,109
So we do have some.

428
00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:17,650
We're selling it.

429
00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:18,329
Yes.

430
00:21:19,170 --> 00:21:19,569
Yes.

431
00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:20,829
Thank you.

432
00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:25,450
Do you have this grant paperwork that we need to sign tonight?

433
00:21:25,789 --> 00:21:27,089
That's on our agenda, right?

434
00:21:27,690 --> 00:21:27,869
Yeah.

435
00:21:28,069 --> 00:21:28,849
Oh, is it down there?

436
00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:29,609
No.

437
00:21:29,970 --> 00:21:30,250
Oh.

438
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,559
I don't know if you guys want to, while we're still on roads, in the executive session we

439
00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:39,559
did mention that we posted a...

440
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,559
I hope it's okay to talk about the third person.

441
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:51,440
We posted a job offer for a third worker, and we didn't post a wage, and I don't know

442
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,220
if the board came up with a definite, but I think it's okay to say that it's not going

443
00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:58,319
to be minimum wage.

444
00:21:59,099 --> 00:22:05,079
I mean, I personally think we should, right in front of the people, say it's going to

445
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:08,039
be around a $25 an hour starting pay.

446
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,240
Depends on qualifications.

447
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,740
And I think that, you know, it can be even more than that with a CDL license and so on,

448
00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:16,640
so it's negotiable.

449
00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:20,539
And we're not, you know, Dave brought it to our attention, we're not getting anybody

450
00:22:20,539 --> 00:22:24,119
that wants to follow a road for $15, $18 an hour.

451
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:30,000
So, you know, I think that this board was in agreement that $25 is, you know, a good

452
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:30,980
starting number.

453
00:22:31,619 --> 00:22:37,539
So if people know anyone out there that, you know, have any qualifications or want to start

454
00:22:37,539 --> 00:22:39,539
getting into this, it's something to...

455
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,619
It's kind of like the listers, you know, put it out there, you know, word of mouth's good.

456
00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:45,019
Try to get people into it.

457
00:22:46,569 --> 00:22:48,509
Make a motion to sign the grant agreement.

458
00:22:48,509 --> 00:22:49,450
Is this me or her?

459
00:22:49,589 --> 00:22:49,930
Just her?

460
00:22:50,170 --> 00:22:50,589
Just me?

461
00:22:50,589 --> 00:22:50,769
Okay.

462
00:22:55,869 --> 00:22:57,109
Can somebody second this?

463
00:22:57,589 --> 00:22:57,930
Second.

464
00:22:58,769 --> 00:23:08,390
While you're talking about job positions, there's an assistant town park and treasurer

465
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:09,089
to go to.

466
00:23:17,369 --> 00:23:22,529
Dave, I just wanted to say thanks for jumping on the pre-buy for the gas for the garage.

467
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,299
Who knows what it's going to be?

468
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:29,549
It's a job.

469
00:23:29,589 --> 00:23:30,089
It's a fun game.

470
00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:38,180
And I also, while we're talking about job, I would like to thank Casey for the job that

471
00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:38,680
she did.

472
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,180
Oh, yeah.

473
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:42,059
And, you know, it wasn't bad.

474
00:23:42,059 --> 00:23:42,799
Nothing was bad.

475
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:47,769
It was good terms and everything, but, you know, send her a letter and thank her.

476
00:23:47,769 --> 00:23:48,269
Thank you.

477
00:23:48,269 --> 00:23:49,150
And the board, thank you.

478
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,200
Anything else, Dave?

479
00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:58,420
I just want to thank you for filling in at the recycling center yesterday.

480
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,500
What's that?

481
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:03,440
It was a hot one.

482
00:24:03,579 --> 00:24:04,500
It was a hot one.

483
00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:07,180
What are we going to do about that down the road, guys?

484
00:24:07,819 --> 00:24:11,000
We've got that out, too, that we need somebody to fill in.

485
00:24:11,019 --> 00:24:18,069
Because we had Carol's husband, I should bring him to the doctor's, so, I mean, that's kind

486
00:24:18,069 --> 00:24:18,930
of...

487
00:24:18,930 --> 00:24:21,549
He probably won't be able to fill in for a while.

488
00:24:21,549 --> 00:24:22,349
Yeah, so we should...

489
00:24:22,349 --> 00:24:27,069
I know it's not a lot of pay at all, but, you know, it should be something we start

490
00:24:27,069 --> 00:24:30,750
getting out there, too, is that everybody gets old.

491
00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:31,150
Yeah.

492
00:24:31,150 --> 00:24:32,789
It's hard to say.

493
00:24:32,890 --> 00:24:33,650
You know, we've got to fill in.

494
00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:40,039
Buzz is very hard to move around, and he's not a youngster anymore.

495
00:24:40,619 --> 00:24:40,799
Yeah.

496
00:24:42,019 --> 00:24:47,940
So, if someone that goes to recycling all the time that would like to work at the recycling

497
00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:51,019
center, it's...

498
00:24:51,019 --> 00:24:52,160
Job offers all around.

499
00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:53,140
Yeah, yeah.

500
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,500
You can take all of them in one shot.

501
00:24:56,839 --> 00:24:57,059
Yeah.

502
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,160
Thank you.

503
00:24:59,380 --> 00:25:01,440
Do all the jobs in one shot.

504
00:25:02,259 --> 00:25:03,339
Stagger your hours.

505
00:25:03,339 --> 00:25:03,980
We're all free.

506
00:25:04,299 --> 00:25:07,380
Anything else, Dave?

507
00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:09,700
We're reaching.

508
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,019
What was that?

509
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,819
You saw your honey up there?

510
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,529
Okay.

511
00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:19,259
Recycling.

512
00:25:21,829 --> 00:25:27,369
Anybody want to be the town rep at the Bennington County Solid Waste Alliance?

513
00:25:27,529 --> 00:25:28,890
You meet four times a year.

514
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:29,329
No.

515
00:25:29,410 --> 00:25:30,130
It's on Zoom.

516
00:25:31,250 --> 00:25:32,230
Didn't you try that?

517
00:25:32,329 --> 00:25:33,150
I tried that.

518
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:34,289
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

519
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:35,210
Third round.

520
00:25:35,349 --> 00:25:36,049
Third round.

521
00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:37,210
It's easy.

522
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:38,049
I find it lovely.

523
00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:38,750
It's fast.

524
00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:42,099
I do, but I'm just thinking ahead of time.

525
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:42,700
You want to send a motion that you can do it?

526
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:43,539
It's like...

527
00:25:43,539 --> 00:25:44,240
We'll have to share.

528
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,839
I'm very willing to share because after a couple years, I'm not going to be doing this

529
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:51,259
anymore.

530
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:53,220
Okay.

531
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:54,640
I hope you shut the lights off.

532
00:25:54,759 --> 00:25:55,059
Yes.

533
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:56,180
All right.

534
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,460
The recycling agency was the wood chips.

535
00:25:59,589 --> 00:26:00,269
Oh, yes.

536
00:26:00,349 --> 00:26:00,789
Wood chips.

537
00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:01,109
Yes.

538
00:26:01,109 --> 00:26:07,190
So, because Sal is still offering wood chips because we were told something different on

539
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:07,549
the phone.

540
00:26:07,789 --> 00:26:08,029
Right.

541
00:26:09,009 --> 00:26:09,450
Right.

542
00:26:09,670 --> 00:26:13,450
So, we talked to the operations manager and he still offered wood chips.

543
00:26:13,869 --> 00:26:17,130
It's just they used to include it in the price before and then I was an extra.

544
00:26:17,950 --> 00:26:19,549
So, will our price go down?

545
00:26:20,089 --> 00:26:26,650
So, our price is going to walk on that, but it's on a small basis for wood chips.

546
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:31,930
So, they brought us six bales of wood chips the other day.

547
00:26:31,930 --> 00:26:36,029
And if you want to do something different, I don't know how much they are yet.

548
00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:37,609
We'll get the bill for it.

549
00:26:38,109 --> 00:26:39,650
Well, let's see what the bill says.

550
00:26:39,650 --> 00:26:46,710
It says the convenience of just calling us will save you from getting them or Carol running

551
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:48,789
down to the store to pick them up.

552
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:56,660
And it's their wood chips.

553
00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,960
So, if something, if we don't buy the right ones or, yeah.

554
00:27:01,460 --> 00:27:02,460
Yeah, I'm sure they're not.

555
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:07,200
We're including them just now.

556
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:08,339
I just bought a wood chip.

557
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:08,819
Are you on it?

558
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:09,440
Yeah.

559
00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:12,079
It's the right kind of wood chip.

560
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:12,559
I didn't buy it.

561
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:13,299
I had to cut wood out.

562
00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:14,920
There still is a sawmill in town.

563
00:27:15,259 --> 00:27:15,460
Yeah.

564
00:27:17,009 --> 00:27:18,549
But then somebody's got to go get them.

565
00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:19,390
That's right.

566
00:27:19,390 --> 00:27:21,970
And that's time and another call.

567
00:27:23,809 --> 00:27:25,380
Those are all built time.

568
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,980
There's a few, what's that, Alfarber?

569
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:30,900
Yeah.

570
00:27:31,299 --> 00:27:35,089
He may be looking for a place to dump chips.

571
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:36,650
Maybe you can ask him.

572
00:27:36,970 --> 00:27:38,130
He's got a couple of places.

573
00:27:38,869 --> 00:27:42,319
I know I said that.

574
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:43,220
I've had them dropped.

575
00:27:43,460 --> 00:27:44,380
Several loads.

576
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,440
I've had them dropped at my place.

577
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,880
Wood chips that we, that they're using, I think, are a senior.

578
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,880
And the track keeps on the smell.

579
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,880
Yes.

580
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,880
That's what I was wondering.

581
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,880
They were out of, part of the special.

582
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,880
It's just like if you get wood chips for the schoolyard, you can't use regular wood chips.

583
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,880
They have to be a special wood chip.

584
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,880
So, let's see.

585
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,880
And they come in bales?

586
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,880
Versus regular wood chips.

587
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,880
Versus regular wood chips.

588
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,880
They come in bales?

589
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,880
Versus regular wood chips.

590
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,880
Versus regular wood chips.

591
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,880
Yeah.

592
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,880
Yeah.

593
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,910
Yeah.

594
00:28:08,910 --> 00:28:09,910
Yeah.

595
00:28:09,910 --> 00:28:10,910
Yeah.

596
00:28:10,910 --> 00:28:11,910
Yeah.

597
00:28:11,910 --> 00:28:12,910
Yeah.

598
00:28:12,910 --> 00:28:13,910
Yeah.

599
00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:14,910
Yeah.

600
00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:15,910
Yeah.

601
00:28:15,910 --> 00:28:16,910
Yeah.

602
00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:18,670
This is the, this is the blacktop that we've been playing with.

603
00:28:18,670 --> 00:28:19,670
Yeah.

604
00:28:19,670 --> 00:28:20,670
Yeah.

605
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:21,670
Yeah.

606
00:28:21,670 --> 00:28:22,670
Okay.

607
00:28:22,670 --> 00:28:26,039
Let's watch the bill when it comes, and then we can think about that.

608
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:27,440
Anything else on recycling?

609
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Highlights.

610
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,140
Yeah.

611
00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:32,019
I think we're operating pretty efficiently out there.

612
00:28:32,019 --> 00:28:37,019
You know, sometimes, there's some complaints about the recycling container, but working

613
00:28:37,019 --> 00:28:41,240
it, I was able to get, you know, all Saturdays was in there, and there's still loads, but

614
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,750
I like it here.

615
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:47,049
Maybe next time.

616
00:28:47,049 --> 00:28:47,849
Yeah.

617
00:28:48,029 --> 00:28:52,119
and it does take some effort to push around.

618
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,119
Well, last Wednesday, the Wednesday after the 4th.

619
00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:01,309
Yeah, I think that's when. They didn't come that week, 4th of July week,

620
00:29:01,309 --> 00:29:05,630
they were off schedule and the recycling dumpster

621
00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:10,299
was full. But the other thing is people

622
00:29:10,299 --> 00:29:14,299
have got to break down their cardboard. They're throwing cardboard in

623
00:29:14,299 --> 00:29:18,299
cardboard boxes. You've got to break it down. They don't always bring

624
00:29:18,299 --> 00:29:22,589
there's three different sizes it seems that they bring.

625
00:29:22,589 --> 00:29:26,589
And there's the size that it's supposed to be. There's a size that's about

626
00:29:26,589 --> 00:29:30,589
5 yards or maybe smaller that they bring every now and then.

627
00:29:30,589 --> 00:29:34,589
There's a big one that's great, but you can't reach it.

628
00:29:34,589 --> 00:29:38,589
And if we had, the big one we're probably going to have to

629
00:29:38,589 --> 00:29:42,589
pay more for. And I don't know if we're

630
00:29:42,589 --> 00:29:47,259
kind of, I don't think it's worth it. It just won't get bigger.

631
00:29:47,259 --> 00:29:49,259
We're going to have to remanifold.

632
00:29:49,259 --> 00:29:53,259
Is there a sign up there with rules on it or anything?

633
00:29:53,259 --> 00:29:57,259
Some of the containers there are and some there aren't.

634
00:29:57,259 --> 00:30:02,279
Yeah.

635
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:06,279
It would be good to put a little sign up there that says, you know.

636
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:10,279
There is a sign up there.

637
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:14,279
Some of the containers there are and some there aren't.

638
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:18,960
It would be good to put a little sign up there that says, you know.

639
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,960
These are the things you need to do.

640
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,960
I think, are there any recycling rules?

641
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Is there a way to implement them on the back of the punch card?

642
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,950
Shed door recycling rules

643
00:30:31,950 --> 00:30:35,950
that everybody that buys a punch card has the recycling rules.

644
00:30:35,950 --> 00:30:37,950
They probably don't read them anymore.

645
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:39,950
Yeah, but what's the back, I don't go to the recycling, so I don't know what the card is.

646
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:43,950
Maybe you could put little rules on the back of the card.

647
00:30:43,950 --> 00:30:45,950
Not like they probably read it.

648
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:47,950
Yeah, not a lot.

649
00:30:47,950 --> 00:30:49,950
You could break them down before you get there, too.

650
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:53,950
Well, I go to North Adams with my dump trailer and I have all these

651
00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:55,950
rules for this thing, rules for that.

652
00:30:55,950 --> 00:31:01,950
They tell you, you can't dump leaves here, you gotta dump the leaves over here.

653
00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:06,039
I did hear a bus trying to tell some people to break their boxes down.

654
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,039
Yeah.

655
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:12,039
I'm trying to enforce it, but we're trying to adopt a new policy

656
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:16,039
in a town in Texas where their volunteer fire department

657
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,039
practiced a certain way.

658
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:20,039
At the dump?

659
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:22,490
At the dump.

660
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:24,490
So the fire has to expire.

661
00:31:26,490 --> 00:31:32,250
So the town of Reesboro just told

662
00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:34,250
our church up there they can't burn

663
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:36,250
houses anymore.

664
00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:38,509
No more

665
00:31:38,509 --> 00:31:40,670
practice.

666
00:31:40,670 --> 00:31:42,670
I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what they told us.

667
00:31:42,670 --> 00:31:46,559
You know how some of the boats

668
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,970
used to donate and burn?

669
00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:50,970
They did that.

670
00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:52,970
Where would they burn it?

671
00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:54,970
Where the boat takes it?

672
00:31:54,970 --> 00:31:56,970
No, no, no.

673
00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:59,039
We just had it torn down.

674
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,039
We asked the fire department first before that.

675
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:03,099
They wanted to burn it and then

676
00:32:03,099 --> 00:32:05,099
demo it after that.

677
00:32:05,099 --> 00:32:07,099
Because they charge it by weight.

678
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:09,160
All the money is in the weight.

679
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,089
It's like $4,000 a dumpster.

680
00:32:12,089 --> 00:32:15,210
You know, demo.

681
00:32:15,210 --> 00:32:17,210
You get it to demo, you start it

682
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:19,210
from the fire department's end.

683
00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:21,210
That means all the potential

684
00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:23,210
asbestos shingles are gone.

685
00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:25,210
All the asphalt. Yeah, we had to do the same thing.

686
00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:27,210
PVC.

687
00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:29,210
I don't think the asphalt

688
00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:31,210
was gone, but

689
00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:33,210
we had to get rid of the asbestos first.

690
00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:35,210
Any asbestos has to be gone

691
00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:37,210
before.

692
00:32:37,210 --> 00:32:39,210
Who was doing it? The Isler brothers?

693
00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:41,210
Yeah, so they're the ones doing the demo, but

694
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:43,210
any hazardous material

695
00:32:43,210 --> 00:32:45,210
has to get out first.

696
00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:47,210
It's not a simple...

697
00:32:47,210 --> 00:32:49,210
It's not like the old days where we just

698
00:32:49,210 --> 00:32:51,210
lit it on fire.

699
00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:53,210
That's why we don't get involved in it anymore.

700
00:32:53,210 --> 00:32:56,329
Yeah, right.

701
00:32:56,329 --> 00:32:58,430
That's it, Dave.

702
00:32:58,430 --> 00:33:00,430
Emergency management. Bob.

703
00:33:00,430 --> 00:33:02,430
He's got a plan for us.

704
00:33:02,430 --> 00:33:04,430
Well, I put last year's

705
00:33:04,430 --> 00:33:06,430
local emergency plan

706
00:33:06,430 --> 00:33:08,430
and just added the new

707
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:10,430
DOC on that we put on.

708
00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:12,430
The what?

709
00:33:12,430 --> 00:33:14,430
The emergency

710
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:16,430
operations coordinator.

711
00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:19,230
We added Stephanie Schalberg

712
00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:21,230
onto the group.

713
00:33:21,230 --> 00:33:23,230
Oh, okay.

714
00:33:23,230 --> 00:33:27,440
I changed the website

715
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,440
that I had on last year.

716
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Okay.

717
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,440
But I'm struggling to get the information

718
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440
from the school as far as

719
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,440
proper contact information

720
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,470
for setting up the

721
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:41,470
you know, we're not going to set up something

722
00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:45,000
for Bob.

723
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
So it's not really, there's not a change on that.

724
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Is that the one I sent you, Lori?

725
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
Yep.

726
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,640
On the school end, who was the

727
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640
contact before, the principal or the...

728
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,640
Randy.

729
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Randy was the principal.

730
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,640
That was your contact.

731
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,639
Oh.

732
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,639
I don't know if he's still here.

733
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,639
No, he's not.

734
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,639
Oh, and Erica Bailey isn't on there anymore.

735
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,639
There's a new principal, but I would assume

736
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,639
the principal would have to take that duty on

737
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:21,639
if they become principal.

738
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,639
So we can't sign this tonight?

739
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,639
Since what, Randy?

740
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:27,639
I'm just a little concerned about

741
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,639
this map in here and it says all black.

742
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,869
I can't really read it.

743
00:34:31,869 --> 00:34:33,869
.

744
00:34:33,869 --> 00:34:35,869
.

745
00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:37,869
.

746
00:34:37,869 --> 00:34:39,869
What is it a map of?

747
00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:41,869
Well, our zoning map.

748
00:34:41,869 --> 00:34:43,869
It's a zoning map.

749
00:34:43,869 --> 00:34:45,929
Why did you put a zoning?

750
00:34:45,929 --> 00:34:47,929
It looks like it was scanned in.

751
00:34:47,929 --> 00:34:49,929
Yeah.

752
00:34:49,929 --> 00:34:51,929
.

753
00:34:51,929 --> 00:34:53,929
It's like the nature of it is.

754
00:34:53,929 --> 00:34:55,929
.

755
00:34:55,929 --> 00:34:57,929
Oh, yeah, that looks better, yeah.

756
00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:01,369
That's fine.

757
00:35:01,369 --> 00:35:03,369
Visually, when we sent it to the school,

758
00:35:03,369 --> 00:35:05,369
it was the same.

759
00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:07,369
Yeah.

760
00:35:07,369 --> 00:35:09,369
So it's okay to send this in

761
00:35:09,369 --> 00:35:11,369
even with the wrong contact information?

762
00:35:11,369 --> 00:35:13,369
.

763
00:35:13,369 --> 00:35:15,369
.

764
00:35:15,369 --> 00:35:19,199
Yeah.

765
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,199
.

766
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:23,199
Who's the school board chair?

767
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:25,199
Cindy.

768
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,199
.

769
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,199
Yeah.

770
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,199
.

771
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:33,360
.

772
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,360
.

773
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,360
.

774
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,610
.

775
00:35:39,610 --> 00:35:41,610
.

776
00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:43,610
.

777
00:35:43,610 --> 00:35:45,610
.

778
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:47,610
.

779
00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:49,610
.

780
00:35:49,610 --> 00:35:51,610
.

781
00:35:51,610 --> 00:35:53,610
.

782
00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:55,610
.

783
00:35:55,610 --> 00:35:57,610
.

784
00:35:57,610 --> 00:35:59,610
.

785
00:35:59,610 --> 00:36:01,610
.

786
00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:05,610
.

787
00:36:05,610 --> 00:36:07,610
.

788
00:36:07,610 --> 00:36:09,610
.

789
00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:11,610
.

790
00:36:11,610 --> 00:36:13,610
.

791
00:36:13,610 --> 00:36:15,610
.

792
00:36:15,610 --> 00:36:17,610
.

793
00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:19,610
.

794
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,610
.

795
00:36:21,610 --> 00:36:24,639
.

796
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:26,639
.

797
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:28,639
.

798
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:30,730
.

799
00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:32,730
.

800
00:36:32,730 --> 00:36:36,860
.

801
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802
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803
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804
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805
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806
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807
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808
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809
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810
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811
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812
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813
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814
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815
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816
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817
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818
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819
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820
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821
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822
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823
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824
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825
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826
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827
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828
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829
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830
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831
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832
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833
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834
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835
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836
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837
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838
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839
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840
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841
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842
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843
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844
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845
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846
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847
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848
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849
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850
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851
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852
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853
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854
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855
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856
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857
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858
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859
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860
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861
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862
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863
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864
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865
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866
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867
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868
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869
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870
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871
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872
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873
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874
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875
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876
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877
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878
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879
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880
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881
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882
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883
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884
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885
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886
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887
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888
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889
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890
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891
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892
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893
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894
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895
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896
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897
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898
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899
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900
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She's got her e-mail.

901
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:47,130
Julie.Slanson

902
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:51,130
at WSWSU

903
00:39:51,130 --> 00:40:00,539
49.org. There we go. Cindy, Julie,

904
00:40:00,539 --> 00:40:04,670
Tim, we don't know.

905
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:08,889
Well, I haven't gotten any e-mails since school's out, so I don't know.

906
00:40:08,889 --> 00:40:16,059
Couldn't tell you. Anything else, Bob? No. Good?

907
00:40:16,059 --> 00:40:20,059
Okay. Thank you. Under discussion, 911 house numbers.

908
00:40:20,059 --> 00:40:24,059
Bill, I see you gave this to the board. I gave

909
00:40:24,059 --> 00:40:28,059
a copy to Walton. You should have a copy. Yes.

910
00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:32,059
Yes. We do have it in our ordinance that we can

911
00:40:32,059 --> 00:40:36,059
find them with tickets, but it's just a minimum amount, so

912
00:40:36,059 --> 00:40:40,059
if we change that amount, we're going to have to publish the ordinance like

913
00:40:40,059 --> 00:40:44,159
we do for a couple hundred dollars to change the amount.

914
00:40:44,159 --> 00:40:48,409
State statute that says

915
00:40:48,409 --> 00:40:52,409
you can levy a fine. Yes. And

916
00:40:52,409 --> 00:40:56,409
research says this is what happens throughout the state

917
00:40:56,409 --> 00:41:01,500
in various places. Yep. And

918
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:05,500
you know, some of these are kind of wild. Yep.

919
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,500
For the amount that they're talking about and who that is going to enforce it

920
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:13,500
and how you're going to collect it. Yep. But we should be able to get

921
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:15,500
something reasonable

922
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:19,500
I don't know what the number you have on the ordinance. It's minimal.

923
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:23,500
Minimal when it was first established.

924
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:27,500
And it's the civil fine like the state is talking about,

925
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:32,400
but at the time that this went in, probably

926
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,400
You and I did it with probably about $25 or something like that. And not even.

927
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,400
$10 civil penalty.

928
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,400
And then penalty for second offense within six months would be

929
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,400
$15.

930
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,489
And then we set the waiver fee. So we've got it all

931
00:41:50,489 --> 00:41:54,489
like the state said that how we do the civil

932
00:41:54,489 --> 00:41:58,489
funds. So then all you have to do is change.

933
00:41:58,489 --> 00:42:02,489
Well we've got to change the ordinance first. Adding that to this

934
00:42:02,489 --> 00:42:06,780
other thing that Lori's going to send out. The reminders.

935
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:10,780
Maybe add that to the reminders. I think it's, did she put it right on

936
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:14,780
top of the reminder? I think she did. Well, how about you figure out

937
00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:19,159
what you're going to charge. Could we do, number seven.

938
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:23,159
Number seven's in there. Could we do this first that

939
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:27,159
do you have a list of everybody that doesn't have their 911 numbers?

940
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:31,289
Would it be better to send them a letter or call them

941
00:42:31,289 --> 00:42:35,289
have a personal call or, because like Lori said you get

942
00:42:35,289 --> 00:42:39,420
more people with honey than you do with vinegar.

943
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:44,539
Because. You know it goes back maybe five years since the last time

944
00:42:44,539 --> 00:42:48,539
we went out and surveyed the listing numbers.

945
00:42:48,539 --> 00:42:52,539
Right. And we printed up a form letter and we

946
00:42:52,539 --> 00:42:56,539
mailed it to all of those people and we went back the following year

947
00:42:56,539 --> 00:43:00,989
and. We went up, when I went with you

948
00:43:00,989 --> 00:43:04,989
up to Whiskey Ranch, that was before COVID. You did part of it. I did part of it with me.

949
00:43:04,989 --> 00:43:08,989
The governor and I did most of it and went off elder scale

950
00:43:08,989 --> 00:43:13,280
to all over the place. That was a long time, yeah.

951
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,929
And mostly from the 911 list. But

952
00:43:19,929 --> 00:43:23,929
there is no immediate, you know I certainly wouldn't take it from a list like that

953
00:43:23,929 --> 00:43:27,929
that's five years old. We've got new houses, we have a few

954
00:43:27,929 --> 00:43:32,000
people that maybe put up signs. Remarkably in the last

955
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,000
few weeks we've had a few people who have asked for signs. Maybe they're reading

956
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,090
the minutes. But it's going to take an effort

957
00:43:40,090 --> 00:43:44,730
it's going to take a couple of days to cover all the

958
00:43:44,730 --> 00:43:46,730
moods and houses in town.

959
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:50,730
And record those that either don't have any sign

960
00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:54,920
at all or don't happen in any place where you can

961
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,340
reasonably read it at night. If you're with a fire truck

962
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:03,340
or an ambulance. The state specifies that there's a reflective

963
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:07,599
letter on the contrasting background. That's

964
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:11,599
why we have the signs that the fire department picked up to meet those statute

965
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:16,360
requirements. We've got to decide that you're going to

966
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,360
charge people money to do it. Because if you don't pick teeth in it

967
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,360
they're going to ignore it the same way they did before.

968
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,360
Do you remember Bill, how many houses roughly, percentage-wise, didn't have the signs five years ago?

969
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,360
I'd say 125. Why not just make them and send them

970
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,360
that out? I'm sorry? Why not just make a bunch of signs, go put them up

971
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,360
and then send them a bill for $16?

972
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,360
And their charge too.

973
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,489
Before we issued any of those numbers from the fire department,

974
00:44:48,489 --> 00:44:52,489
we considered and presented and discussed it with the select board at the time

975
00:44:52,489 --> 00:44:56,809
of having six by six posts

976
00:44:56,809 --> 00:45:01,099
with numbers either attached or engraved into them

977
00:45:01,099 --> 00:45:05,159
in front of every driveway. And the post holder here

978
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:09,159
and it might take it six or eight months for the town to

979
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:13,159
be installed and do it. I know nobody wanted

980
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:17,159
to make it look like a city. But if I recall, like my address

981
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:21,159
used to be 611A Main Road. And then the

982
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:25,159
state, or somebody revamped all the addresses in town

983
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:29,159
so the coordinator was off the state line.

984
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:33,159
So my address now is 4957, so I'm

985
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:37,159
4.9 miles off of the state. From the state

986
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:41,159
line? From the state line. Correct. The number you might have had before then

987
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:45,159
was a post office number. It was an RFB number.

988
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:49,159
Which was not related in any way to be able to find anybody.

989
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:53,960
And that was before the federal

990
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,960
government. And then the state government came out with standards

991
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,960
and said, this is how you will number, and this is how you will sign it.

992
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,639
Yes, Nancy and I probably started with this 20 years ago.

993
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,639
Well more, yeah, more than now.

994
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:14,639
It's all somewhere in the documentation of when we started. I don't know how it works

995
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:18,639
out. I mean, I understand what you're saying, Bill. Like, when you're out at night

996
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:23,119
looking for 911, you want to be able to find the number and get there.

997
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:27,119
I don't know how you would implement it, though. Like, where would the money go

998
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,119
if you were going to find it? Does it go to the police station? Does it go to the town?

999
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:35,119
It goes to the town. It goes to the town and it subsidizes putting up

1000
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:39,119
numbers where people have refused to. Yep. Or something like that.

1001
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:43,119
I don't know the problem with the money, yeah.

1002
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:47,119
The problem isn't getting, isn't what to do with the money. The problem is to get people to

1003
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,119
Yeah, in order, that's what I mean. Just do it in central bills.

1004
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:55,210
Uh, how long do you owe the 60 days

1005
00:46:55,210 --> 00:46:59,280
to change the ordinance, plus we've got to do the legal add in the paper.

1006
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,280
That's money. That's money. So let's bump it up enough to pay for it if someone

1007
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,280
The thing is, let's not kick it down the road again, let's say

1008
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,280
You don't put up a sign, you get a fine.

1009
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,280
You know, a house is burning. Change a number.

1010
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,280
And we can see it. Let's do it.

1011
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,280
And we can see it burn even better. Yeah.

1012
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,280
When somebody is having a heart attack, and you can't find them,

1013
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,280
Right. and you get them there 10 minutes later, or 15 minutes later,

1014
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,280
and they're dead, how much is the $200 advertising worth?

1015
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,280
Yeah, exactly.

1016
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,280
Why don't they put them up now? I have a proposition.

1017
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,280
Why don't people put them up now if they cared about their loved ones?

1018
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,280
Why are we holding their hand?

1019
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,280
That's me. Never mind.

1020
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,280
You don't want to hold their hand. You want to charge them money.

1021
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,280
Right. That's exactly what you call them.

1022
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,280
So then, the ambulance doesn't waste their time driving around

1023
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,280
because there might be another call.

1024
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,280
Or the fire department. There might be another call.

1025
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,280
And they're looking for me because I don't have a number.

1026
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,280
And now his wife just called on him.

1027
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,280
And he goes, oh, I, you know, I mean, they could be doing both efficiently.

1028
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,469
So we have kicked this down the road for years.

1029
00:48:05,469 --> 00:48:07,880
Yeah.

1030
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,880
And it needs, it really needs to stop.

1031
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:16,079
I will yield to Bill any day, but C.J. was here a couple of times,

1032
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:22,429
and he wanted, I'm not going to talk for C.J., but I'm going to talk based on what he was saying.

1033
00:48:22,429 --> 00:48:30,650
This emergency thing that we're referring to with the signs and stuff is a really serious thing.

1034
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:32,650
That's coming from him.

1035
00:48:32,650 --> 00:48:34,650
Right.

1036
00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:36,650
And I agree with it 100%.

1037
00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:43,800
I would be willing to purchase the signs, rivet them to a metal pipe,

1038
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:49,800
and drive it into the ground for anybody who's willing to pay me an hour's wage to do it.

1039
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,800
And the cost of the material.

1040
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Right.

1041
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,480
Pretty expensive.

1042
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Fifteen bucks at least, right?

1043
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,480
Yeah, at least.

1044
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,480
About $30 for a gas.

1045
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,480
What does a fence post cost?

1046
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,480
What's that?

1047
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,480
A post?

1048
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,480
I have a huge deal of scrap.

1049
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Good stuff.

1050
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,480
My 100 foot long greenhouse got demolished.

1051
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,480
So I could buy all new piping.

1052
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,570
But I have, like, cut up all these straight pipes in there.

1053
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:26,570
Hey.

1054
00:49:26,570 --> 00:49:28,570
Just use like a t-bar.

1055
00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:30,570
It's a lot more than $16 for the deal sign.

1056
00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:32,570
That's for damn sure.

1057
00:49:32,570 --> 00:49:36,570
And like you said, a heart attack, or a kid choking, or a fire,

1058
00:49:36,570 --> 00:49:38,570
it's worth, I mean this is,

1059
00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:40,570
this discussion really,

1060
00:49:40,570 --> 00:49:42,570
everybody in this room, I guarantee,

1061
00:49:42,570 --> 00:49:44,570
is in agreement with it.

1062
00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:46,570
It's the people that aren't here that might say,

1063
00:49:46,570 --> 00:49:48,570
well, I don't care.

1064
00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:50,570
Well, you will care someday.

1065
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:52,570
But, you know, maybe they're not,

1066
00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:54,570
they're not going to pay the fine either.

1067
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:56,570
It's $16.

1068
00:49:56,570 --> 00:49:58,570
It's kind of like the dog thing.

1069
00:49:58,570 --> 00:50:00,570
You know, what's it, $11?

1070
00:50:00,570 --> 00:50:02,570
And then we send them a $100 fine.

1071
00:50:02,570 --> 00:50:04,570
For the time being,

1072
00:50:04,570 --> 00:50:06,570
I propose that you put an article in next,

1073
00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:08,570
select board meeting.

1074
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:10,570
And then you're going to send the fine

1075
00:50:10,570 --> 00:50:12,570
for not having a street number sign.

1076
00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:14,570
That will get people to respond.

1077
00:50:14,570 --> 00:50:16,570
Then it will give you the first half

1078
00:50:16,570 --> 00:50:18,570
to take actual action on it.

1079
00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:20,570
How do we know if they're going,

1080
00:50:20,570 --> 00:50:22,570
how do we know if people comply

1081
00:50:22,570 --> 00:50:24,570
that just happen to go around

1082
00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:27,210
and see a house without a number?

1083
00:50:27,210 --> 00:50:29,210
No, you will have to drive around

1084
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:31,210
through the town again

1085
00:50:31,210 --> 00:50:33,210
and survey the town.

1086
00:50:33,210 --> 00:50:35,210
Well, yeah.

1087
00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:37,949
Do you and John want to do it again?

1088
00:50:37,949 --> 00:50:39,949
Or...

1089
00:50:39,949 --> 00:50:42,650
How long does it take for them to be made?

1090
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:44,650
To be made?

1091
00:50:44,650 --> 00:50:46,650
About 10 minutes.

1092
00:50:46,650 --> 00:50:48,650
And it doesn't have to be from them.

1093
00:50:48,650 --> 00:50:50,650
Right.

1094
00:50:50,650 --> 00:50:52,650
You can have your own.

1095
00:50:52,650 --> 00:50:54,650
Right.

1096
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:56,650
It's hard for you to go out and buy the material

1097
00:50:56,650 --> 00:50:58,650
cheaper than the $16

1098
00:50:58,650 --> 00:51:00,650
that the fire department is paying for.

1099
00:51:00,650 --> 00:51:02,650
Either way,

1100
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:04,650
if you want to do it that way, do it.

1101
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:06,650
Do you want one, John?

1102
00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:08,650
We're not in the...

1103
00:51:08,650 --> 00:51:10,650
I want one in green.

1104
00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:12,650
So I would definitely put it on...

1105
00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:14,650
If we have to put it on the agenda,

1106
00:51:14,650 --> 00:51:16,650
I mean, it's $10 an hour,

1107
00:51:16,650 --> 00:51:18,650
I'd go at least $25.

1108
00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:20,650
Fine of $10 for each day

1109
00:51:20,650 --> 00:51:22,650
of noncompliance.

1110
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:24,650
Oh, each day?

1111
00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:26,650
Well, I thought it was at one time.

1112
00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:28,650
That's steep now.

1113
00:51:28,650 --> 00:51:30,650
A civil penalty of 10 may be imposed

1114
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:32,650
for the initial violation.

1115
00:51:32,650 --> 00:51:34,650
The penalty for the second offense

1116
00:51:34,650 --> 00:51:36,650
within six months shall be 15

1117
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:38,650
and subsequent offenses

1118
00:51:38,650 --> 00:51:40,650
within the six-month period shall be 20.

1119
00:51:40,650 --> 00:51:42,650
I was going to say that again.

1120
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:44,650
You said it was 10 each day?

1121
00:51:44,650 --> 00:51:46,650
A fine of $10 for each day

1122
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:48,650
of noncompliance.

1123
00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:50,650
You don't go up for tax sales.

1124
00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:52,650
I was going to say, that's a lot.

1125
00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:54,650
... against the property owner.

1126
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:56,650
I thought there was a...

1127
00:51:56,650 --> 00:51:58,650
I think it should be a set fine.

1128
00:51:58,650 --> 00:52:00,650
I don't think it should be every day.

1129
00:52:00,650 --> 00:52:02,650
And then we go 60 days or whatever

1130
00:52:02,650 --> 00:52:04,650
and then you get a fine.

1131
00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:07,099
Put it on the agenda as to the fact

1132
00:52:07,099 --> 00:52:09,519
that you're going to rephrase,

1133
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:11,519
repace...

1134
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:13,519
Replace the ordinance

1135
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:15,519
for the penalties.

1136
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:17,519
Bill, can I give you $16

1137
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:19,519
and have you make one for me?

1138
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:21,519
He's getting nervous already.

1139
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:25,519
We have the form here.

1140
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:27,519
Laurie will take the $16

1141
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:29,519
and I'll have it by the next meeting for you.

1142
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,519
Alright, I need one too.

1143
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:33,519
Me too.

1144
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:35,519
But I don't need one for my house.

1145
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:37,519
I need one for the new property.

1146
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:39,519
Whatever you need,

1147
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:41,519
whether you want it here in Stanford

1148
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:43,519
or it'll get it done.

1149
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,519
The forms are here.

1150
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,519
Half the time.

1151
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:49,519
Okay.

1152
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:51,519
So put it on the agenda.

1153
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:53,519
Oh, the emergency management

1154
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:55,519
coordinator, she'll have

1155
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:57,519
the authority to enter the premises

1156
00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:59,519
not in compliance. Oh, I guess that's Bob.

1157
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,769
Emergency management

1158
00:53:01,769 --> 00:53:03,769
coordinator.

1159
00:53:03,769 --> 00:53:05,769
You got another job.

1160
00:53:05,769 --> 00:53:07,769
So you want me to check the number?

1161
00:53:07,769 --> 00:53:09,769
Enter the premises of any house or building

1162
00:53:09,769 --> 00:53:11,769
not in compliance and install

1163
00:53:11,769 --> 00:53:13,769
a registration sign or numbering post

1164
00:53:13,769 --> 00:53:15,769
and charge the property owner

1165
00:53:15,769 --> 00:53:17,769
all reasonable costs and expenses

1166
00:53:17,769 --> 00:53:19,769
associated therewith.

1167
00:53:19,769 --> 00:53:21,769
You can fine them all you want.

1168
00:53:21,769 --> 00:53:23,769
It's a lot.

1169
00:53:23,769 --> 00:53:25,769
Well, really, all you're doing

1170
00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:27,769
is bringing back the information

1171
00:53:27,769 --> 00:53:29,769
to the flat board.

1172
00:53:29,769 --> 00:53:31,769
You could say,

1173
00:53:31,769 --> 00:53:33,769
hey, can people help me out?

1174
00:53:39,769 --> 00:53:41,769
You're saving people's lives.

1175
00:53:41,769 --> 00:53:43,769
We could use that part of it.

1176
00:53:43,769 --> 00:53:45,769
Criminal court?

1177
00:53:45,769 --> 00:53:47,769
911.

1178
00:53:47,769 --> 00:53:49,769
$60.

1179
00:53:49,769 --> 00:53:51,769
I think, yeah.

1180
00:53:51,769 --> 00:53:53,769
Was that low?

1181
00:53:57,769 --> 00:53:59,769
Let's quiet.

1182
00:53:59,769 --> 00:54:01,929
Can we quiet?

1183
00:54:01,929 --> 00:54:03,929
What did you ask?

1184
00:54:03,929 --> 00:54:05,929
911 has a state mandate.

1185
00:54:05,929 --> 00:54:07,929
Yes.

1186
00:54:07,929 --> 00:54:09,929
At first,

1187
00:54:09,929 --> 00:54:11,929
at first,

1188
00:54:11,929 --> 00:54:13,929
we started out,

1189
00:54:13,929 --> 00:54:15,929
everybody with electricity

1190
00:54:15,929 --> 00:54:17,929
or a phone number.

1191
00:54:17,929 --> 00:54:19,929
But now with cell phones,

1192
00:54:19,929 --> 00:54:21,929
it includes camps and roads.

1193
00:54:21,929 --> 00:54:23,929
So you got one.

1194
00:54:23,929 --> 00:54:25,929
For your answer,

1195
00:54:25,929 --> 00:54:27,929
the entrance to the road

1196
00:54:27,929 --> 00:54:29,929
that you use to the camp

1197
00:54:29,929 --> 00:54:32,090
is where it needs to be posted.

1198
00:54:32,090 --> 00:54:34,090
How would you just

1199
00:54:34,090 --> 00:54:36,320
push back to the road?

1200
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,320
How did they get there?

1201
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,320
Well, they'll have to explain that

1202
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,320
when they call in.

1203
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,320
It's not a perfect system.

1204
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,320
It's not a perfect system,

1205
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,989
but, yeah.

1206
00:54:52,989 --> 00:54:54,989
Don't call.

1207
00:55:02,989 --> 00:55:04,989
Every year,

1208
00:55:04,989 --> 00:55:06,989
Laurie gets a map that says,

1209
00:55:06,989 --> 00:55:08,989
this building does not have

1210
00:55:08,989 --> 00:55:10,989
a 911 number.

1211
00:55:10,989 --> 00:55:12,989
The state knows.

1212
00:55:12,989 --> 00:55:14,989
It's like, you know,

1213
00:55:14,989 --> 00:55:16,989
Rondo's got a camera

1214
00:55:16,989 --> 00:55:18,989
way up in the woods.

1215
00:55:18,989 --> 00:55:20,989
Where they ended their road,

1216
00:55:20,989 --> 00:55:23,050
they could put one there.

1217
00:55:23,050 --> 00:55:25,050
But it's not perfect.

1218
00:55:25,050 --> 00:55:27,050
When you drive around,

1219
00:55:27,050 --> 00:55:29,050
nobody would probably catch that.

1220
00:55:29,050 --> 00:55:31,050
It really doesn't have a road.

1221
00:55:31,050 --> 00:55:33,050
The road kind of ends

1222
00:55:33,050 --> 00:55:35,050
and it goes right away.

1223
00:55:35,050 --> 00:55:37,050
They probably don't have

1224
00:55:37,050 --> 00:55:39,050
a 911 address.

1225
00:55:39,050 --> 00:55:41,050
No, I doubt it.

1226
00:55:41,050 --> 00:55:43,050
They probably don't have a map

1227
00:55:43,050 --> 00:55:45,050
saying, there's a building here.

1228
00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:47,050
Where's the 911 number?

1229
00:55:47,050 --> 00:55:49,050
So what do you have to do?

1230
00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:51,050
Either we go out and measure it,

1231
00:55:51,050 --> 00:55:53,050
or if it's all wild in the woods,

1232
00:55:53,050 --> 00:55:55,179
we call the guy with their

1233
00:55:55,179 --> 00:55:57,179
magic electronics

1234
00:55:57,179 --> 00:55:59,179
to come down from Bennington,

1235
00:55:59,179 --> 00:56:01,179
and somebody goes out the road

1236
00:56:01,179 --> 00:56:03,179
with him, and he says,

1237
00:56:03,179 --> 00:56:05,179
there's the number.

1238
00:56:05,179 --> 00:56:07,179
I've traveled with him a few times

1239
00:56:07,179 --> 00:56:09,179
to find obscure things.

1240
00:56:09,179 --> 00:56:11,179
I think there's something down there.

1241
00:56:11,179 --> 00:56:13,179
So he finds additional houses.

1242
00:56:13,179 --> 00:56:15,179
Sometimes you give it to Sally,

1243
00:56:15,179 --> 00:56:17,179
and she doesn't know where it is.

1244
00:56:17,179 --> 00:56:19,179
Like with yours, you would probably

1245
00:56:19,179 --> 00:56:21,179
have to put it at the end of the road.

1246
00:56:21,179 --> 00:56:23,179
When you call, explain,

1247
00:56:23,179 --> 00:56:25,179
when you come up my road,

1248
00:56:25,179 --> 00:56:27,179
the first left.

1249
00:56:27,179 --> 00:56:29,179
There is none.

1250
00:56:29,179 --> 00:56:31,179
In reality, there used to be a name.

1251
00:56:31,179 --> 00:56:33,179
I don't know if you'd still call it that.

1252
00:56:33,179 --> 00:56:35,179
Would you say it's a long driveway

1253
00:56:35,179 --> 00:56:37,179
off of Lincoln Road?

1254
00:56:37,179 --> 00:56:39,179
I'd put it at the end of Lincoln Road,

1255
00:56:39,179 --> 00:56:41,179
and when you're coming up,

1256
00:56:41,179 --> 00:56:43,179
you take this left,

1257
00:56:43,179 --> 00:56:45,179
and give it a high attention.

1258
00:56:45,179 --> 00:56:47,179
Yeah, a lot of GPS.

1259
00:56:47,179 --> 00:56:49,179
Some of it has to be

1260
00:56:49,179 --> 00:56:51,179
some common sense decisions

1261
00:56:51,179 --> 00:56:53,179
as to where it should be,

1262
00:56:53,179 --> 00:56:55,179
and where to call it,

1263
00:56:55,179 --> 00:56:57,179
a driveway,

1264
00:56:57,179 --> 00:56:59,179
where to call it as part of the road.

1265
00:56:59,179 --> 00:57:01,179
It's like a hiker getting caught.

1266
00:57:01,179 --> 00:57:03,179
He's got a phone in his hand.

1267
00:57:03,179 --> 00:57:05,280
They found me in the middle

1268
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,280
of the Connecticut River the other day.

1269
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,280
They can do anything.

1270
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,469
We've been here.

1271
00:57:11,469 --> 00:57:13,469
We're outside.

1272
00:57:13,469 --> 00:57:15,469
Warn people that next meeting

1273
00:57:15,469 --> 00:57:17,469
you're going to set,

1274
00:57:17,469 --> 00:57:19,469
reset the ordinance.

1275
00:57:19,469 --> 00:57:21,469
That's all you have to say.

1276
00:57:21,469 --> 00:57:23,469
You don't have to say an amount.

1277
00:57:23,469 --> 00:57:25,469
Just that you're going to

1278
00:57:25,469 --> 00:57:27,469
reset the ordinance.

1279
00:57:27,469 --> 00:57:29,469
To increase higher fines

1280
00:57:29,469 --> 00:57:31,469
for 911 numbers

1281
00:57:31,469 --> 00:57:33,469
for not in compliance.

1282
00:57:33,469 --> 00:57:35,469
It is.

1283
00:57:35,469 --> 00:57:37,469
It is.

1284
00:57:37,469 --> 00:57:40,750
Bill, I need a 911.

1285
00:57:40,750 --> 00:57:42,750
The first one I got from my

1286
00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:44,750
camp was wrong.

1287
00:57:44,750 --> 00:57:46,750
I had to get an office.

1288
00:57:46,750 --> 00:57:48,750
I warned Bonnie.

1289
00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:50,750
Last Monday night,

1290
00:57:50,750 --> 00:57:52,750
Bonnie went through and counted

1291
00:57:52,750 --> 00:57:54,750
all of her white numbers

1292
00:57:54,750 --> 00:57:56,750
to make sure.

1293
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:58,750
She's got a half a case

1294
00:57:58,750 --> 00:58:00,840
of the green backgrounds.

1295
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,840
She said this is something

1296
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,840
for the people.

1297
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,840
Fill out a form with Lori.

1298
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,420
Be happy to get it done.

1299
00:58:09,420 --> 00:58:11,420
Okay.

1300
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:13,420
In your boxes,

1301
00:58:13,420 --> 00:58:15,420
Lori gave us the second quarter

1302
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:17,420
financials.

1303
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:19,420
Look them over and ask Lori

1304
00:58:19,420 --> 00:58:22,119
any questions.

1305
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:27,869
See where we are

1306
00:58:27,869 --> 00:58:29,869
by next meeting.

1307
00:58:29,869 --> 00:58:32,250
We'll discuss that.

1308
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:38,250
Review

1309
00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:45,130
revised code of ethics

1310
00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:47,130
investigation and enforcement

1311
00:58:47,130 --> 00:58:49,360
ordinance.

1312
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,360
We're all set last time

1313
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,360
to approve this,

1314
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,480
but then there was some

1315
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,480
question about the

1316
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,320
page 2,

1317
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:07,150
4C.

1318
00:59:07,150 --> 00:59:10,429
The select board

1319
00:59:10,429 --> 00:59:12,429
will designate

1320
00:59:12,429 --> 00:59:14,429
a person or two or more

1321
00:59:14,429 --> 00:59:17,929
people to gather the facts.

1322
00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:19,929
Can I speak here a minute?

1323
00:59:19,929 --> 00:59:21,929
Yes.

1324
00:59:21,929 --> 00:59:23,929
Go ahead.

1325
00:59:23,929 --> 00:59:25,929
Originally there was

1326
00:59:25,929 --> 00:59:27,929
confusion. We wanted to have one person.

1327
00:59:27,929 --> 00:59:29,929
We were investigating.

1328
00:59:29,929 --> 00:59:31,929
Then others chimed in.

1329
00:59:31,929 --> 00:59:33,929
We were thinking

1330
00:59:33,929 --> 00:59:35,929
it was going to be two or three.

1331
00:59:35,929 --> 00:59:37,929
I

1332
00:59:37,929 --> 00:59:40,639
was in sway

1333
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:42,639
of having two or three people.

1334
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:44,639
I started thinking

1335
00:59:44,639 --> 00:59:46,639
about it afterwards.

1336
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:48,639
I really didn't want

1337
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:50,639
two or three people

1338
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:52,639
harassing somebody

1339
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:54,639
trying to get all the information.

1340
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:56,639
Then I was like

1341
00:59:56,639 --> 00:59:58,639
maybe one person would have been

1342
00:59:58,639 --> 01:00:00,639
realistically better

1343
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,639
to do so.

1344
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:04,639
I think the one person

1345
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:06,639
is probably the better

1346
01:00:06,639 --> 01:00:10,429
solution for that.

1347
01:00:10,429 --> 01:00:12,429
I agree with you too

1348
01:00:12,429 --> 01:00:14,429
because we had one in the beginning.

1349
01:00:14,429 --> 01:00:16,429
I felt

1350
01:00:16,429 --> 01:00:18,429
that if you have three people

1351
01:00:18,429 --> 01:00:21,199
interviewing you

1352
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:23,199
as we just recently heard

1353
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:25,199
that you kind of feel

1354
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:27,199
overwhelmed or

1355
01:00:27,199 --> 01:00:29,199
ganged upon maybe

1356
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:31,199
or intimidated. It is.

1357
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:33,199
If it is one on one

1358
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:35,199
and we are still going to interview

1359
01:00:35,199 --> 01:00:37,199
the people. There is going to be five of us

1360
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:40,000
interviewing the students.

1361
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,000
This is kind of new

1362
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,000
what we are doing.

1363
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,000
Let's try it.

1364
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
See how it goes.

1365
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,000
Again, we talked about this for

1366
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,000
three meetings in a row.

1367
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,000
My feeling

1368
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,190
is too many

1369
01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:58,190
foots spoil the broth.

1370
01:00:58,190 --> 01:01:00,190
We make it needlessly

1371
01:01:00,190 --> 01:01:02,190
complicated. We are not

1372
01:01:02,190 --> 01:01:04,190
trying to find out what happened to

1373
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:06,190
D.B. Cooper. We are not trying to find out

1374
01:01:06,190 --> 01:01:08,190
if there was a second gunman in Dallas.

1375
01:01:08,190 --> 01:01:10,190
There was.

1376
01:01:10,190 --> 01:01:12,190
Somebody comes up.

1377
01:01:14,190 --> 01:01:16,190
No.

1378
01:01:16,190 --> 01:01:18,190
I wasn't even a parcel of my daddy's bag.

1379
01:01:18,190 --> 01:01:20,190
But anyway

1380
01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:22,219
and I wish I had never used

1381
01:01:22,219 --> 01:01:24,219
the word investigation.

1382
01:01:24,219 --> 01:01:26,219
This should be more of a fact finding.

1383
01:01:28,539 --> 01:01:30,539
Very simple.

1384
01:01:30,539 --> 01:01:32,829
It said who, what, when, where.

1385
01:01:32,829 --> 01:01:34,829
And now I am going to throw out

1386
01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:36,829
just another idea for consideration.

1387
01:01:36,829 --> 01:01:39,239
Cut out the middle man

1388
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:41,239
or the middle woman completely.

1389
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:43,630
When a person makes a complaint

1390
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:46,809
they have to

1391
01:01:46,809 --> 01:01:48,809
fill out a form and bring it

1392
01:01:48,809 --> 01:01:51,710
send it up to us.

1393
01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:53,710
What would prevent us

1394
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:55,710
from interviewing that person

1395
01:01:55,710 --> 01:01:57,710
ourselves. At least a

1396
01:01:57,710 --> 01:01:59,710
quorum. We didn't have to have everybody here.

1397
01:01:59,710 --> 01:02:01,929
Have the person

1398
01:02:01,929 --> 01:02:03,929
who has been accused of doing

1399
01:02:03,929 --> 01:02:05,929
something wrong. We want to hear

1400
01:02:05,929 --> 01:02:07,929
what people have meant.

1401
01:02:07,929 --> 01:02:09,929
And then we can sit among ourselves

1402
01:02:09,929 --> 01:02:11,929
and say okay I would like a little more

1403
01:02:11,929 --> 01:02:13,929
information here. A little more information

1404
01:02:13,929 --> 01:02:15,929
there. And then send out.

1405
01:02:15,929 --> 01:02:17,929
And then we send out for somebody to do it.

1406
01:02:17,929 --> 01:02:19,929
That's what I wanted to do when the state came in.

1407
01:02:19,929 --> 01:02:21,929
I said why can't we get this in the butt ourselves.

1408
01:02:21,929 --> 01:02:23,929
I agree.

1409
01:02:23,929 --> 01:02:25,929
This is something that shouldn't go on forever

1410
01:02:25,929 --> 01:02:27,929
because it should be

1411
01:02:27,929 --> 01:02:29,929
if we are going to implement this

1412
01:02:29,929 --> 01:02:31,929
and there is an issue

1413
01:02:31,929 --> 01:02:33,929
it should be speedy.

1414
01:02:33,929 --> 01:02:35,929
It shouldn't be lengthy.

1415
01:02:35,929 --> 01:02:37,929
It shouldn't be after the fact.

1416
01:02:37,929 --> 01:02:39,929
Because if there is an ethics violation

1417
01:02:39,929 --> 01:02:41,929
it should be taken care of right away.

1418
01:02:41,929 --> 01:02:43,929
Either way. Because it could ruin

1419
01:02:43,929 --> 01:02:45,929
someone's reputation on one end

1420
01:02:45,929 --> 01:02:47,929
and it also could be continuing.

1421
01:02:47,929 --> 01:02:49,929
It could happen more often if they are doing

1422
01:02:49,929 --> 01:02:51,929
it on a board or something where they say

1423
01:02:51,929 --> 01:02:53,929
hey this person went down

1424
01:02:53,929 --> 01:02:55,929
and they did this and now we wait

1425
01:02:55,929 --> 01:02:57,929
and they did it again to someone else.

1426
01:02:57,929 --> 01:03:00,030
Or multiple to the same person.

1427
01:03:00,030 --> 01:03:02,030
And I'd like to think the best of people

1428
01:03:02,030 --> 01:03:04,030
but there is a potential that this could be weaponized.

1429
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:06,030
You know I don't like

1430
01:03:06,030 --> 01:03:08,030
so and so. They are a problem.

1431
01:03:08,030 --> 01:03:10,119
Sure can.

1432
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:12,119
That's not what it's intended for.

1433
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:14,119
Lisa?

1434
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:16,119
I was just wondering if there could be a difference

1435
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:18,119
from right now where I don't feel like

1436
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:20,119
complaints are really being addressed

1437
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:22,119
from my own personal experience.

1438
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:24,119
Complaints weren't addressed by the board

1439
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:26,119
so how is it going to be done?

1440
01:03:26,119 --> 01:03:28,280
Really?

1441
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,280
No one ever talked to me

1442
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,280
about this.

1443
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,280
Well this

1444
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,280
we are trying to settle that now

1445
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,280
and this will give you the

1446
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,280
option to come in

1447
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,280
and sit.

1448
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,280
I thought

1449
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,280
well I agree with you

1450
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,280
on that situation

1451
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,280
I thought that it was

1452
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,050
the party involved

1453
01:03:53,050 --> 01:03:55,239
was

1454
01:03:55,239 --> 01:03:57,239
did what you intended

1455
01:03:57,239 --> 01:03:59,239
or what you would like

1456
01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:01,239
to have happen.

1457
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:03,239
We'll see yeah exactly.

1458
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,239
Okay.

1459
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:07,239
Because that's what I thought it was.

1460
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,239
Right.

1461
01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:11,239
I requested though to come speak to the board.

1462
01:04:11,239 --> 01:04:13,239
Yeah.

1463
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:15,239
Yeah.

1464
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:17,239
After talking to the other party

1465
01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:19,239
I thought it was ended

1466
01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:21,239
or I definitely would have asked you

1467
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:23,239
and I personally would have.

1468
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:25,239
Okay.

1469
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:27,369
Do you still want to?

1470
01:04:27,369 --> 01:04:29,369
I'll see what happens.

1471
01:04:29,369 --> 01:04:31,369
Okay.

1472
01:04:31,369 --> 01:04:33,369
This is a little different because it's a formal complaint

1473
01:04:33,369 --> 01:04:35,369
and nothing happens unless they receive a complaint.

1474
01:04:35,369 --> 01:04:37,369
There was actually a lot going on with that.

1475
01:04:37,369 --> 01:04:39,369
We've got more than one email.

1476
01:04:39,369 --> 01:04:41,369
Yeah.

1477
01:04:41,369 --> 01:04:43,369
What's the difference between

1478
01:04:43,369 --> 01:04:45,369
the letter?

1479
01:04:45,369 --> 01:04:47,369
Once this is finalized it has an actual complaint form.

1480
01:04:47,369 --> 01:04:49,369
A form.

1481
01:04:49,369 --> 01:04:51,369
We don't have it now.

1482
01:04:51,369 --> 01:04:53,369
So that's why we need to put this into place soon.

1483
01:04:53,369 --> 01:04:55,369
Get it done.

1484
01:04:55,369 --> 01:04:57,369
Then it won't be as

1485
01:04:57,369 --> 01:04:59,369
So I would like to make a motion to sign it

1486
01:04:59,369 --> 01:05:01,369
not as this is written

1487
01:05:01,369 --> 01:05:03,369
as it was originally written

1488
01:05:03,369 --> 01:05:05,369
with the one

1489
01:05:05,369 --> 01:05:07,369
person doing the investment.

1490
01:05:07,369 --> 01:05:09,369
Okay.

1491
01:05:09,369 --> 01:05:11,369
What about

1492
01:05:11,369 --> 01:05:13,369
having that come directly to the board?

1493
01:05:13,369 --> 01:05:15,369
I like that.

1494
01:05:15,369 --> 01:05:17,369
People talk about it?

1495
01:05:17,369 --> 01:05:19,369
I think the board should have the discretion

1496
01:05:19,369 --> 01:05:21,530
to

1497
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:23,530
share to people right away.

1498
01:05:23,530 --> 01:05:25,530
You might have one person come in and say

1499
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:27,530
all I want this guy to do is come and say

1500
01:05:27,530 --> 01:05:29,530
hey, sorry for calling me a jerk.

1501
01:05:29,530 --> 01:05:31,530
And we go hey,

1502
01:05:31,530 --> 01:05:33,530
would you say sorry to Lisa?

1503
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:35,530
Yeah, no problem.

1504
01:05:35,530 --> 01:05:37,530
That's nice.

1505
01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:39,530
It couldn't be that easy.

1506
01:05:39,530 --> 01:05:41,530
Now there could be times where it's some bad, bad thing

1507
01:05:41,530 --> 01:05:43,530
where we gotta say hey,

1508
01:05:43,530 --> 01:05:45,530
you need to step down

1509
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:47,530
and it may be further

1510
01:05:47,530 --> 01:05:49,530
it may be even worse

1511
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:51,530
that we instead of asking them to

1512
01:05:51,530 --> 01:05:53,530
step down or

1513
01:05:53,530 --> 01:05:55,530
we might have to remove a person.

1514
01:05:55,530 --> 01:05:57,530
Right.

1515
01:05:57,530 --> 01:05:59,530
And it might be legal

1516
01:05:59,530 --> 01:06:01,530
or we might have to do legal action.

1517
01:06:01,530 --> 01:06:03,530
So we should just take out on

1518
01:06:03,530 --> 01:06:05,530
call the police or something.

1519
01:06:05,530 --> 01:06:07,820
On number C just take out

1520
01:06:07,820 --> 01:06:09,820
anything until

1521
01:06:09,820 --> 01:06:11,820
on completion of a written statement of facts

1522
01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:13,820
oh no.

1523
01:06:17,949 --> 01:06:19,949
If needed, if we need

1524
01:06:19,949 --> 01:06:21,949
to send out a person from the ethics

1525
01:06:21,949 --> 01:06:24,010
board or committee

1526
01:06:24,010 --> 01:06:26,010
whatever you want to call it

1527
01:06:26,010 --> 01:06:28,010
We've got to worry.

1528
01:06:28,010 --> 01:06:30,010
Worry about somebody from the board themselves.

1529
01:06:30,010 --> 01:06:32,010
Yeah.

1530
01:06:32,010 --> 01:06:34,010
Unless there's some kind of question.

1531
01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:36,010
Because eventually it's going to be our decision.

1532
01:06:36,010 --> 01:06:38,010
That's right.

1533
01:06:38,010 --> 01:06:40,010
It's better to

1534
01:06:40,010 --> 01:06:42,010
sometimes it's so simple

1535
01:06:42,010 --> 01:06:44,010
and I agree with you.

1536
01:06:44,010 --> 01:06:46,010
We oversimplify the stuff that it just never gets done.

1537
01:06:46,010 --> 01:06:48,010
And she's right.

1538
01:06:48,010 --> 01:06:50,010
If it's not getting done now

1539
01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:52,010
and we keep making it hard

1540
01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:54,010
it's not going to get done tomorrow.

1541
01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:56,010
We need to move it on.

1542
01:06:56,010 --> 01:06:58,010
The select board should initially

1543
01:06:58,010 --> 01:07:00,010
hear

1544
01:07:00,010 --> 01:07:02,010
get the complaint

1545
01:07:02,010 --> 01:07:04,010
and interview

1546
01:07:04,010 --> 01:07:06,010
the complainant

1547
01:07:06,010 --> 01:07:08,010
and be accused.

1548
01:07:08,010 --> 01:07:10,010
And then after that

1549
01:07:10,010 --> 01:07:12,010
then if we need more information

1550
01:07:12,010 --> 01:07:14,010
then we can send something out.

1551
01:07:14,010 --> 01:07:16,010
Right.

1552
01:07:16,010 --> 01:07:18,010
Even if I went to the state

1553
01:07:18,010 --> 01:07:20,010
to gather facts case by case.

1554
01:07:20,010 --> 01:07:22,010
So that should be okay.

1555
01:07:22,010 --> 01:07:24,880
I agree.

1556
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,199
I think we're good, Lori.

1557
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:29,199
So do you want me to work this up

1558
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:31,199
send it to you guys so you can see it ahead of time

1559
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:33,199
and just plan to adopt it

1560
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:35,199
and sign it and then it's a meeting?

1561
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:37,199
Sure.

1562
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:39,199
What's this going to do to your advertising?

1563
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:41,199
There was some problem with that.

1564
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:43,199
This is the problem.

1565
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:45,199
A lot of times we adopt it

1566
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:47,199
like let's say you adopt it at this meeting

1567
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:49,199
with the changes

1568
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:51,199
and then sign it at the next meeting

1569
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:53,199
but I only have 14 days from the adoption

1570
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:55,199
to put it in the paper

1571
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:57,199
which I can't do because you haven't signed it

1572
01:07:57,199 --> 01:07:59,199
and it all has to happen on the same day.

1573
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:01,199
Can we sign it now with the amendment

1574
01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:03,199
that was made?

1575
01:08:03,199 --> 01:08:05,199
I don't know.

1576
01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:07,199
Is it clear about the way it's written?

1577
01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:09,199
They want to have it

1578
01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:11,199
on their agenda for adoption.

1579
01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:13,199
Oh, it's got to be on the agenda

1580
01:08:13,199 --> 01:08:15,199
for the adoption.

1581
01:08:17,930 --> 01:08:21,279
Do you guys want to

1582
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,279
write it

1583
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:25,279
send it to us?

1584
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:27,279
I have a question.

1585
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,590
Can we sign it tonight

1586
01:08:30,590 --> 01:08:32,590
post it and all that

1587
01:08:32,590 --> 01:08:34,590
and then in the future

1588
01:08:34,590 --> 01:08:37,100
can we put an amendment in

1589
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,199
anytime we feel like it?

1590
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:41,199
Oh, we have to change the ordinance.

1591
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:43,199
And then we have to go through the whole process.

1592
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:45,199
I'll just make those changes

1593
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,199
and sign it tonight.

1594
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:49,199
But you want to do a motion to adopt it?

1595
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:51,199
Yes.

1596
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:53,199
But I thought you said it's got to be

1597
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:55,199
Well, I mean, it is on the agenda

1598
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,199
for your review.

1599
01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:59,199
Review, revised code of ethics

1600
01:08:59,199 --> 01:09:07,340
and enforcement ordinance.

1601
01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:09,340
Take your time.

1602
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:19,039
I hate to kick this again.

1603
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:21,039
I'm not going to.

1604
01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:24,510
I second your motion.

1605
01:09:24,510 --> 01:09:26,510
I second your motion.

1606
01:09:26,510 --> 01:09:28,510
I'm not kicking it down the road.

1607
01:09:28,510 --> 01:09:30,510
You guys can write it up.

1608
01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:32,510
I have no problem with

1609
01:09:32,510 --> 01:09:34,510
one person. Move forward on it.

1610
01:09:34,510 --> 01:09:36,510
Move forward on it.

1611
01:09:36,510 --> 01:09:38,569
We all know

1612
01:09:38,569 --> 01:09:40,569
what we want.

1613
01:09:40,569 --> 01:09:42,569
If it's not written perfect

1614
01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:44,569
we'll work with that.

1615
01:09:44,569 --> 01:09:46,569
If it's not written perfect

1616
01:09:46,569 --> 01:09:48,569
when we do it

1617
01:09:48,569 --> 01:09:50,569
we'll implement it.

1618
01:09:50,569 --> 01:09:52,569
I'm good.

1619
01:09:52,569 --> 01:09:54,569
I want to put this forward.

1620
01:09:54,569 --> 01:09:58,680
We've got a second.

1621
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,680
Oh, can we second it?

1622
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,680
All in favor? Aye.

1623
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,800
Done.

1624
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,800
Start the process, Lori.

1625
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,470
Review employee policy handbook.

1626
01:10:11,470 --> 01:10:13,470
I did not do it.

1627
01:10:13,470 --> 01:10:15,500
Mike, we did not do it.

1628
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:17,500
No.

1629
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:19,500
But we are going to do it.

1630
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,500
I will.

1631
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,500
Let's kick that one down the road.

1632
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:25,500
I don't get to read so much.

1633
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,920
Monday morning.

1634
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,199
Next Monday?

1635
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,199
Monday.

1636
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:39,199
I think it will be here.

1637
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:41,199
She can't have her baby yet.

1638
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,199
It's Wednesday.

1639
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,199
She's not going to have a baby.

1640
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:49,149
Monday.

1641
01:10:49,149 --> 01:10:51,149
10? 11?

1642
01:10:51,149 --> 01:10:54,109
I don't care.

1643
01:10:54,109 --> 01:10:56,109
I don't work.

1644
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Every one of my days is messed up.

1645
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,000
Monday at 10.

1646
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,000
This is my fourth Monday.

1647
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,000
This coming Monday?

1648
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,000
10 o'clock?

1649
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,000
Let's see what Lori says.

1650
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:19,689
I'll probably forget.

1651
01:11:24,430 --> 01:11:26,430
Lori, we good for Monday at 10?

1652
01:11:26,430 --> 01:11:28,750
Okay.

1653
01:11:32,750 --> 01:11:34,750
Anybody want to work at a machine shop?

1654
01:11:34,750 --> 01:11:36,750
Instead of the town?

1655
01:11:36,750 --> 01:11:38,750
How much do we say? 25?

1656
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:40,750
I'll start it off at 26.

1657
01:11:40,750 --> 01:11:42,750
Do you work nights?

1658
01:11:42,750 --> 01:11:44,750
Nights? We can.

1659
01:11:44,750 --> 01:11:46,750
Do you do air conditioning?

1660
01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:48,750
No.

1661
01:11:48,750 --> 01:11:50,750
Do you give breaks?

1662
01:11:50,750 --> 01:11:52,750
Once in a while.

1663
01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:54,750
What's your lunch? Hours? No lunch.

1664
01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:56,750
Flying lunch?

1665
01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:58,750
We have two breaks a day.

1666
01:11:58,750 --> 01:12:00,750
But I have to go to the bathroom.

1667
01:12:00,750 --> 01:12:02,750
Well, that's what they seem to do.

1668
01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:04,750
Go to the bathroom a lot.

1669
01:12:04,750 --> 01:12:06,750
Do you have ladies room and men's room?

1670
01:12:06,750 --> 01:12:08,750
Yes.

1671
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:10,750
No handicap access?

1672
01:12:10,750 --> 01:12:12,750
Don't need it.

1673
01:12:12,750 --> 01:12:14,750
All one floor.

1674
01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:16,750
Okay.

1675
01:12:16,750 --> 01:12:18,750
Oh, you need that when you're old.

1676
01:12:18,750 --> 01:12:20,750
Just had the insurance coming down.

1677
01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:22,750
No violation.

1678
01:12:22,750 --> 01:12:24,750
Good.

1679
01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:26,750
Lori, do you want us to continue?

1680
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:28,750
Huh?

1681
01:12:28,750 --> 01:12:31,039
No, we just had that too.

1682
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:33,039
That's a whole different...

1683
01:12:33,039 --> 01:12:35,039
I guess she wants us to continue.

1684
01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:37,039
Yeah, we just put a system in.

1685
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:39,159
It's unbelievable.

1686
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:41,159
Unbelievable.

1687
01:12:41,159 --> 01:12:43,199
How efficient the system is.

1688
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:45,199
Huh?

1689
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:47,199
Overnight.

1690
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:49,479
Confirmation of planning commission members.

1691
01:12:49,479 --> 01:13:03,840
The select board received a letter from the chairman of the planning commission to ask us to confirm the full planning commission board.

1692
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,840
It appears from a previous ZBA meeting that we may have a vacancy.

1693
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,279
And we don't know that.

1694
01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:15,279
We don't have anything in writing that there is a vacancy on the planning commission.

1695
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:17,279
Yes, sir.

1696
01:13:17,279 --> 01:13:21,279
So, do we need to reach out to that individual and ask?

1697
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:23,279
Yes.

1698
01:13:23,279 --> 01:13:27,279
Should it be us or should it be the planning commission to reach out?

1699
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:29,279
We appointed them.

1700
01:13:29,279 --> 01:13:33,279
That meeting was on the video, so I watched it.

1701
01:13:33,279 --> 01:13:39,279
He said that he, in my understanding, that he was stepping down from the board.

1702
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:41,279
All boards.

1703
01:13:41,279 --> 01:13:43,279
All boards?

1704
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:45,279
When this is done.

1705
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,279
The chair acknowledged it.

1706
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:49,279
He said that it was done.

1707
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:51,279
That it did get done.

1708
01:13:51,279 --> 01:13:53,279
He thought it was going to carry on.

1709
01:13:53,279 --> 01:13:55,279
Right.

1710
01:13:55,279 --> 01:13:59,279
And she did say, yeah, she thanked him and she said that it was going to be a loss and so on.

1711
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:01,279
So, it was very, the assumption is there.

1712
01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:03,279
Yes, we should reach out and ask.

1713
01:14:03,279 --> 01:14:05,279
And find out.

1714
01:14:05,279 --> 01:14:08,590
Could he send in something in writing?

1715
01:14:08,590 --> 01:14:10,590
Yes.

1716
01:14:10,590 --> 01:14:12,590
Because we usually get everything in writing.

1717
01:14:12,590 --> 01:14:14,590
We usually get everything in writing.

1718
01:14:14,590 --> 01:14:16,590
Can I elaborate a little bit on that?

1719
01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:18,590
Yeah, sure.

1720
01:14:18,590 --> 01:14:25,100
So, you guys are aware of what's up and coming.

1721
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:29,100
So, the town plan is in the midst now.

1722
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,100
We're just getting ready.

1723
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,100
We should be moving on soon.

1724
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:37,100
And there's grants available for that.

1725
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:39,100
And so, we need to get the grants going on that.

1726
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:41,100
As well as violence.

1727
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:45,260
We need, I have a lengthy conversation with them.

1728
01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:47,260
And.

1729
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:53,260
They read and scrutinized our bylaws and they feel like they should be rewritten.

1730
01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:55,260
Who's this now?

1731
01:14:55,260 --> 01:14:57,260
BCRC.

1732
01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:59,260
They're the ones that recommended it five years ago.

1733
01:14:59,260 --> 01:15:01,260
Jim Sullivan sat here for two years.

1734
01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:03,260
Yes.

1735
01:15:03,260 --> 01:15:05,260
We did that.

1736
01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:07,260
Thank you.

1737
01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:10,859
Yes.

1738
01:15:10,859 --> 01:15:12,859
And so, it was taxing.

1739
01:15:12,859 --> 01:15:14,859
It is.

1740
01:15:14,859 --> 01:15:16,859
So, we need it started as soon as possible.

1741
01:15:16,859 --> 01:15:19,279
And so.

1742
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:25,659
We need to have a functioning board as soon as possible.

1743
01:15:25,659 --> 01:15:29,819
Now, you said you have a grant for that?

1744
01:15:29,819 --> 01:15:31,819
There's a grant for both.

1745
01:15:31,819 --> 01:15:33,920
A grant for both.

1746
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,920
For revising your bylaws?

1747
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,920
Yes.

1748
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,949
And for the town plan.

1749
01:15:39,949 --> 01:15:41,949
Oh.

1750
01:15:41,949 --> 01:15:43,949
They're willing to help us.

1751
01:15:43,949 --> 01:15:45,949
So, you have to do the town plan first?

1752
01:15:45,949 --> 01:15:47,949
No.

1753
01:15:47,949 --> 01:15:49,949
They want us to do it all at the same time.

1754
01:15:49,949 --> 01:15:52,199
There's no deadline for the bylaws.

1755
01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:54,199
There's a deadline for the town plan.

1756
01:15:54,199 --> 01:15:56,199
Right.

1757
01:15:56,199 --> 01:15:58,199
The town plan has to be done within the next year.

1758
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:00,199
Right.

1759
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:02,199
The bylaws are ours.

1760
01:16:02,199 --> 01:16:04,199
They're already done.

1761
01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:06,199
We want to do them.

1762
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:08,199
The way they are now.

1763
01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:10,199
But the town plan they're asking for.

1764
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:12,199
There's still some serious issues there.

1765
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:14,199
Sure.

1766
01:16:14,199 --> 01:16:16,199
We're going to end up.

1767
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:18,199
The bylaws because of certain zoning.

1768
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:20,199
I guess you would call it.

1769
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:22,199
Whatever you want to call it.

1770
01:16:22,199 --> 01:16:24,199
I'm not sure what it was.

1771
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:26,199
I hate to bring this up guys.

1772
01:16:26,199 --> 01:16:28,199
How is that going?

1773
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:30,199
Where is this?

1774
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:32,199
I mean I thought we said let's do it.

1775
01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:34,199
It's done.

1776
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:36,199
You guys approved it last week.

1777
01:16:36,199 --> 01:16:38,199
I guess I don't know.

1778
01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:40,199
They were effective July.

1779
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:42,199
Go ahead.

1780
01:16:42,199 --> 01:16:44,199
Now they are effective now.

1781
01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:46,199
Okay.

1782
01:16:46,199 --> 01:16:48,199
I'm curious.

1783
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:50,199
I had to get a piece of cardboard and put it out there that says town hall.

1784
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:52,199
No.

1785
01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:58,199
At your last meeting I think somebody was talking about doing sign practice or something.

1786
01:16:58,199 --> 01:17:00,199
Oil tank.

1787
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:02,239
Okay.

1788
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:04,239
Okay.

1789
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:10,239
I just wanted to make sure that we need a functioning board as soon as possible.

1790
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,239
Right.

1791
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:14,239
And we do have a couple of letters of recommendation.

1792
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:16,239
Letters of recommendation.

1793
01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:18,239
Letters of interest.

1794
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:20,239
And as soon as we get Dave's letter.

1795
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:22,239
So I would like this.

1796
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:24,239
We will advertise it officially like we always do.

1797
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:28,239
I would like to have this information by next meeting.

1798
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:30,239
Right.

1799
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:36,590
And what I would ask the board tonight is to please appoint these two people as alternates.

1800
01:17:36,590 --> 01:17:44,619
And then that way if we get a chance to have a meeting here soon we can start bringing them on board.

1801
01:17:44,619 --> 01:17:48,619
So at this point if there was a resignation we have one opening.

1802
01:17:48,619 --> 01:17:50,619
Yes.

1803
01:17:50,619 --> 01:17:52,619
Right.

1804
01:17:52,619 --> 01:17:54,619
So if you have two now.

1805
01:17:54,619 --> 01:17:56,619
Who is the alternate now?

1806
01:17:56,619 --> 01:17:58,619
There will be only one.

1807
01:17:58,619 --> 01:18:00,619
Okay.

1808
01:18:00,619 --> 01:18:02,619
So there will only be one position to fill at this time.

1809
01:18:02,619 --> 01:18:04,619
Right.

1810
01:18:04,619 --> 01:18:06,619
Possibly.

1811
01:18:06,619 --> 01:18:08,619
We've had alternates in the past.

1812
01:18:08,619 --> 01:18:10,619
We did.

1813
01:18:10,619 --> 01:18:12,619
Yeah.

1814
01:18:12,619 --> 01:18:14,619
Yeah.

1815
01:18:14,619 --> 01:18:18,619
What is preventing you from moving forward?

1816
01:18:18,619 --> 01:18:20,619
I understand.

1817
01:18:20,619 --> 01:18:26,619
But the fact that this one thing is in limbo shouldn't stop you from moving forward in the board.

1818
01:18:26,619 --> 01:18:28,619
You have enough people.

1819
01:18:28,619 --> 01:18:30,619
Right.

1820
01:18:30,619 --> 01:18:32,619
You got it.

1821
01:18:32,619 --> 01:18:34,619
Yeah.

1822
01:18:34,619 --> 01:18:36,619
And they could just sit in anyway.

1823
01:18:36,619 --> 01:18:38,840
I agree.

1824
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,840
I agree.

1825
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,840
But I also at the beginning of this meeting I said something about the plan.

1826
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,840
I apologize.

1827
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,840
Yeah.

1828
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,840
Yeah.

1829
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,840
But we're good.

1830
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,840
We're good.

1831
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,840
Okay.

1832
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,840
Yeah.

1833
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,840
I don't like you.

1834
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,840
You know it.

1835
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,840
Just stay where you.

1836
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,840
Exactly.

1837
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,840
We got it.

1838
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,840
We're good.

1839
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,840
But no.

1840
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,840
I mean I've watched those meetings and you're right.

1841
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,840
We kind of just wanted an official letter though.

1842
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,840
Yeah.

1843
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,840
I mean if you got an official letter tomorrow could you tell Peter and we could then continue on?

1844
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,840
Well you could still have your meeting.

1845
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,840
We can't have a meeting.

1846
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,840
We cannot have a meeting until this is resolved in terms of this particular individual.

1847
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:34,840
Because it would become dysfunctional and acrimonious.

1848
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:40,840
So until this is resolved it's just a waste of time.

1849
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,840
All right.

1850
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,840
So it's a question or however you want to word it.

1851
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,840
Pending Dave's resignation letter.

1852
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,909
The approval of the other two individuals.

1853
01:19:52,909 --> 01:19:54,909
Something along those lines.

1854
01:19:54,909 --> 01:19:56,909
But we can approve those people as alternates right now.

1855
01:19:56,909 --> 01:19:58,909
Alternates.

1856
01:19:58,909 --> 01:20:00,909
Yeah.

1857
01:20:00,909 --> 01:20:02,909
So you know just waiting for a letter.

1858
01:20:02,909 --> 01:20:04,909
Now if they're an alternate they don't have any voting power though right?

1859
01:20:04,909 --> 01:20:06,909
Well yeah.

1860
01:20:06,909 --> 01:20:08,909
It's not all put together.

1861
01:20:08,909 --> 01:20:11,680
If there was a.

1862
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,680
Oh they can.

1863
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,680
They can come in for someone missing is that what you're saying?

1864
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,680
Yes.

1865
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,680
Well if there is not a quorum.

1866
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,680
They can step in.

1867
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:25,680
They can step in and they will continue whatever we're discussing and voting on.

1868
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,680
That person if that person voted on that then from that time forward.

1869
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,680
Until the issue is resolved.

1870
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:37,680
Until the issue is resolved that person would sit in on it and whoever was absent would have to sit back.

1871
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,189
Okay.

1872
01:20:40,189 --> 01:20:42,189
So that's the way the law works.

1873
01:20:42,189 --> 01:20:44,189
Well there we go.

1874
01:20:44,189 --> 01:20:48,189
What I would suggest is that the first.

1875
01:20:48,189 --> 01:20:50,189
I'm sorry.

1876
01:20:50,189 --> 01:20:54,189
I know who was the first person that sent in for a letter of interest.

1877
01:20:54,189 --> 01:20:56,189
It was Stephanie.

1878
01:20:56,189 --> 01:20:58,189
We would like for her to be the first.

1879
01:20:58,189 --> 01:21:00,960
The first alternate.

1880
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,960
And then.

1881
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,460
And then I think.

1882
01:21:06,460 --> 01:21:08,460
Is it Kate O'Neil?

1883
01:21:08,460 --> 01:21:10,460
Did we advertise for this position at all?

1884
01:21:10,460 --> 01:21:12,460
We did not advertise for the position.

1885
01:21:12,460 --> 01:21:14,460
No we did not.

1886
01:21:14,460 --> 01:21:16,750
Because we.

1887
01:21:16,750 --> 01:21:18,750
People knew that it might be empty.

1888
01:21:18,750 --> 01:21:20,750
So they wanted to come on.

1889
01:21:20,750 --> 01:21:22,750
Yeah I know this board has always.

1890
01:21:22,750 --> 01:21:24,750
Always nominated the first person that came.

1891
01:21:24,750 --> 01:21:26,750
Right.

1892
01:21:26,750 --> 01:21:28,750
So we did advertise.

1893
01:21:28,750 --> 01:21:30,750
We already got people.

1894
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:32,750
So we.

1895
01:21:32,750 --> 01:21:34,750
Let me say.

1896
01:21:34,750 --> 01:21:36,750
We didn't advertise particularly for this board.

1897
01:21:36,750 --> 01:21:38,750
But in the past we have said.

1898
01:21:38,750 --> 01:21:40,750
At our select board meetings.

1899
01:21:40,750 --> 01:21:42,750
If anyone is interested in joining any board.

1900
01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:44,750
Yes.

1901
01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:46,750
So that.

1902
01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,750
It is self advertised.

1903
01:21:48,750 --> 01:21:50,750
I think we should move on.

1904
01:21:50,750 --> 01:21:52,750
So I.

1905
01:21:52,750 --> 01:21:54,750
On July.

1906
01:21:54,750 --> 01:21:56,750
On June 27th.

1907
01:21:56,750 --> 01:21:58,750
I did receive an email from Stephanie Shelburne.

1908
01:21:58,750 --> 01:22:00,750
Wanting to be appointed to the planning commission.

1909
01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:03,289
On June 30th.

1910
01:22:03,289 --> 01:22:05,289
I received a letter from Angela Trudeau.

1911
01:22:05,289 --> 01:22:09,289
Wanting to be appointed to the zoning board of adjustment.

1912
01:22:09,289 --> 01:22:11,289
And.

1913
01:22:11,289 --> 01:22:13,289
On July 7th.

1914
01:22:13,289 --> 01:22:15,289
I received.

1915
01:22:15,289 --> 01:22:17,289
An email from Carol Saldo.

1916
01:22:17,289 --> 01:22:19,390
Wanting to serve on any board.

1917
01:22:19,390 --> 01:22:21,390
On the next opportunity.

1918
01:22:21,390 --> 01:22:23,390
She just would like to start getting involved.

1919
01:22:23,390 --> 01:22:25,390
Okay.

1920
01:22:25,390 --> 01:22:27,390
So on the last one.

1921
01:22:27,390 --> 01:22:29,390
I would.

1922
01:22:29,390 --> 01:22:31,390
If there is any openings.

1923
01:22:31,390 --> 01:22:33,390
Reach back out to her.

1924
01:22:33,390 --> 01:22:35,390
And ask her if those openings are what she wants.

1925
01:22:35,390 --> 01:22:37,390
And we could.

1926
01:22:37,390 --> 01:22:39,390
That is a first person.

1927
01:22:39,390 --> 01:22:41,390
And if there is an opening.

1928
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:43,390
Other than Stephanie.

1929
01:22:43,390 --> 01:22:45,390
She actually asked for the planning board.

1930
01:22:45,390 --> 01:22:47,390
On what was that again?

1931
01:22:47,390 --> 01:22:49,390
CBA.

1932
01:22:49,390 --> 01:22:51,390
So if there is an opening for that.

1933
01:22:51,390 --> 01:22:53,390
Again that is the first person.

1934
01:22:53,390 --> 01:22:55,390
I would have no problem.

1935
01:22:55,390 --> 01:22:57,390
Putting both of those people as alternates.

1936
01:22:57,390 --> 01:22:59,390
Until we find out what this.

1937
01:22:59,390 --> 01:23:01,390
I would definitely.

1938
01:23:01,390 --> 01:23:03,390
Out of respect for a person who has been on the board for over 20 years.

1939
01:23:03,390 --> 01:23:05,390
I would like to wait for the letter.

1940
01:23:05,390 --> 01:23:07,390
Out of respect.

1941
01:23:07,390 --> 01:23:09,390
And officially.

1942
01:23:09,390 --> 01:23:11,609
I would like to.

1943
01:23:11,609 --> 01:23:13,609
And I have.

1944
01:23:13,609 --> 01:23:15,609
David was.

1945
01:23:15,609 --> 01:23:17,609
David did for this community.

1946
01:23:17,609 --> 01:23:19,609
In his entire life.

1947
01:23:19,609 --> 01:23:21,609
And I have been.

1948
01:23:21,609 --> 01:23:23,609
Very much alive.

1949
01:23:23,609 --> 01:23:25,609
It is unfortunate how things ended.

1950
01:23:25,609 --> 01:23:27,609
But.

1951
01:23:27,609 --> 01:23:29,609
I would just like to thank him for this.

1952
01:23:29,609 --> 01:23:31,609
I am not going to talk for him.

1953
01:23:31,609 --> 01:23:33,609
Let's wait and see what happens.

1954
01:23:33,609 --> 01:23:35,609
Right.

1955
01:23:35,609 --> 01:23:37,770
And in our reminders.

1956
01:23:37,770 --> 01:23:39,770
At the end of every.

1957
01:23:39,770 --> 01:23:41,770
Select board meeting.

1958
01:23:41,770 --> 01:23:43,770
We have anyone interested.

1959
01:23:43,770 --> 01:23:45,770
Highway crew.

1960
01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:47,770
Lister.

1961
01:23:47,770 --> 01:23:49,770
We have nothing.

1962
01:23:49,770 --> 01:23:51,770
We have three jobs.

1963
01:23:51,770 --> 01:23:53,770
Two board openings.

1964
01:23:53,770 --> 01:23:55,770
But everybody wants to be on your planning.

1965
01:23:55,770 --> 01:23:57,770
I will make a motion to appoint.

1966
01:23:57,770 --> 01:23:59,770
Stephanie as ultimate number one.

1967
01:23:59,770 --> 01:24:01,770
For the planning board.

1968
01:24:01,770 --> 01:24:03,770
Angela for ultimate number one.

1969
01:24:03,770 --> 01:24:05,840
For the DBA.

1970
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,840
And what else.

1971
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,840
Carol for any potential openings.

1972
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,840
For the next opening.

1973
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,840
The next opening is available.

1974
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,840
Any particular in mind.

1975
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,840
Any next opening.

1976
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,840
Is there an alternate.

1977
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,840
There you go.

1978
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,840
Starter kit.

1979
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,510
Second.

1980
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,640
All in favor.

1981
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,640
Aye.

1982
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,640
So these will all be alternates.

1983
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,329
From.

1984
01:24:48,329 --> 01:24:50,359
Is there a vacancy on conservation.

1985
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:52,359
Or would it be an alternate.

1986
01:24:52,359 --> 01:24:54,560
I think there is a vacancy.

1987
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,560
Well he is actually on conservation.

1988
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,560
Oh that's right.

1989
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,560
And he did resign from all of them.

1990
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,560
Oh he is.

1991
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,560
It could be.

1992
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,550
All three could be filled.

1993
01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:09,550
Okay.

1994
01:25:09,550 --> 01:25:11,550
And it's good that there is three different people.

1995
01:25:11,550 --> 01:25:13,550
That they are not the same person.

1996
01:25:13,550 --> 01:25:15,550
That's good.

1997
01:25:15,550 --> 01:25:17,550
Current like that.

1998
01:25:17,550 --> 01:25:19,550
That we're not the same people.

1999
01:25:19,550 --> 01:25:21,550
When I'm done with this.

2000
01:25:21,550 --> 01:25:23,550
I'm joining the planning commission.

2001
01:25:23,550 --> 01:25:25,550
As long as Jim is still on.

2002
01:25:25,550 --> 01:25:27,550
Okay.

2003
01:25:27,550 --> 01:25:29,550
All right.

2004
01:25:29,550 --> 01:25:31,550
I said.

2005
01:25:31,550 --> 01:25:33,550
Okay.

2006
01:25:33,550 --> 01:25:35,550
I said when I'm done with this.

2007
01:25:35,550 --> 01:25:37,550
I'm joining the planning commission.

2008
01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:39,550
As long as you're still on.

2009
01:25:39,550 --> 01:25:41,550
I want to sit right next to you today.

2010
01:25:41,550 --> 01:25:43,550
Okay.

2011
01:25:43,550 --> 01:25:45,550
Thank you.

2012
01:25:45,550 --> 01:25:47,550
Any last questions.

2013
01:25:47,550 --> 01:25:49,550
We have one last one.

2014
01:25:49,550 --> 01:25:51,550
Okay.

2015
01:25:51,550 --> 01:25:53,550
We are going to move to our audit report.

2016
01:25:53,550 --> 01:25:55,550
Which we did.

2017
01:25:55,550 --> 01:25:57,550
We passed it around.

2018
01:25:57,550 --> 01:26:02,409
There is a letter of recommendation which law Erie has started to implement some of the recommendations.

2019
01:26:02,409 --> 01:26:04,409
From the auditor.

2020
01:26:04,409 --> 01:26:06,409
They can't all be done at once.

2021
01:26:06,409 --> 01:26:08,409
But one at a time.

2022
01:26:08,409 --> 01:26:10,409
She is combining finances.

2023
01:26:10,409 --> 01:26:13,529
I don't know how far you were able to get on them.

2024
01:26:13,529 --> 01:26:15,920
But working on it.

2025
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:25,909
and anything else under correspondence so Jim Sullivan has been working with

2026
01:26:25,909 --> 01:26:31,529
Dave for the fiscal year 26 grant for Sportsman & Roling

2027
01:26:31,529 --> 01:26:34,489
What did I say?

2028
01:26:34,489 --> 01:26:36,489
Sullivan

2029
01:26:36,489 --> 01:26:38,489
He's gone

2030
01:26:38,489 --> 01:26:40,489
Jim Henderson

2031
01:26:40,489 --> 01:26:48,489
So Jim Henderson would like you guys to sign this agreement to work with BCRC on a grant

2032
01:26:48,489 --> 01:26:52,489
They're signing it, aren't they?

2033
01:26:52,489 --> 01:26:59,100
We're going to be doing this year's grant on Sportsman & Roling

2034
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:06,600
Probably going to do both this year

2035
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,600
Yeah

2036
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:13,710
Now that's that one up at the

2037
01:27:13,710 --> 01:27:15,710
No

2038
01:27:15,710 --> 01:27:17,710
That's still in limbo

2039
01:27:17,710 --> 01:27:21,710
That's going to be, I'm going to put in for a better back road grant

2040
01:27:21,710 --> 01:27:23,840
For up by their place?

2041
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,840
Up by Lisa's, that's for a better back road grant

2042
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,760
This is grants in aid

2043
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,760
We're working on it

2044
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,760
And where's that going? On Sportsman?

2045
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,760
Where?

2046
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,760
25 and 26, there's callers from

2047
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,760
Just think, 20 years from now you might get paid

2048
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,859
Next year's grant

2049
01:27:48,859 --> 01:27:55,289
Dave, do you have a plan for that then?

2050
01:27:55,289 --> 01:27:57,289
What's that?

2051
01:27:57,289 --> 01:27:59,289
Do you have a plan? Is it going to cut new properties?

2052
01:27:59,289 --> 01:28:01,289
No, we're not doing that

2053
01:28:01,289 --> 01:28:03,289
It's going to be

2054
01:28:03,289 --> 01:28:07,579
It's more likely going to be in the same area as these mountains

2055
01:28:07,579 --> 01:28:09,579
When is the other grant, grants in aid is this?

2056
01:28:09,579 --> 01:28:13,579
Grants in aid is this one and

2057
01:28:13,579 --> 01:28:15,579
Better back roads

2058
01:28:15,579 --> 01:28:21,689
I did mention something to Dave the other day

2059
01:28:21,689 --> 01:28:24,140
About ditching

2060
01:28:24,140 --> 01:28:26,170
I don't know if you want to bring it up here

2061
01:28:26,170 --> 01:28:28,359
The state?

2062
01:28:28,359 --> 01:28:30,359
Yeah, because I noticed

2063
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:32,359
Going up Hartwellville Mountain

2064
01:28:32,359 --> 01:28:34,359
On Route 8100

2065
01:28:34,359 --> 01:28:36,359
On the right hand side

2066
01:28:36,359 --> 01:28:38,460
The state did some ditching

2067
01:28:38,460 --> 01:28:40,460
And oh, that looks nice

2068
01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:42,460
But what happened to the

2069
01:28:42,460 --> 01:28:44,460
Stone line ditches that the town has to do?

2070
01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:46,460
The state didn't do it

2071
01:28:46,460 --> 01:28:48,460
So you were going to ask

2072
01:28:48,460 --> 01:28:50,460
Jim Sullivan and why

2073
01:28:50,460 --> 01:28:53,449
Henderson

2074
01:28:53,449 --> 01:28:55,449
They're always changing

2075
01:28:55,449 --> 01:28:57,449
Because you know

2076
01:28:57,449 --> 01:28:59,449
Usually when they come up with some idea

2077
01:28:59,449 --> 01:29:01,449
It's somewhat unreasonable

2078
01:29:01,449 --> 01:29:03,449
Because it's making the rule changes

2079
01:29:03,449 --> 01:29:05,449
Instead of doing that type of work

2080
01:29:05,449 --> 01:29:07,449
So I think

2081
01:29:07,449 --> 01:29:09,449
That's part of it

2082
01:29:09,449 --> 01:29:11,739
But I think

2083
01:29:11,739 --> 01:29:14,000
So if it's already been stone lined

2084
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,000
You can just clean the ditch

2085
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,000
To the stone

2086
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,000
You don't

2087
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,000
Initially they wanted you to dig it out

2088
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,000
But I think enough people complained

2089
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,119
And enough people said

2090
01:29:26,119 --> 01:29:28,119
No, that's nonsense

2091
01:29:28,119 --> 01:29:30,119
We're not doing it anyway

2092
01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:32,119
We're just going to take it to the stone

2093
01:29:32,119 --> 01:29:34,119
So they changed the rule

2094
01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:36,119
I don't think there's any stone in there

2095
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:38,119
I don't think there's any stone in there

2096
01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:40,119
I don't think there's any stone in there

2097
01:29:40,119 --> 01:29:42,119
You notice that too

2098
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:44,119
The grass is growing nice now

2099
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:46,119
The grass likes it

2100
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:48,119
Yes

2101
01:29:48,119 --> 01:29:50,119
In certain places the stone is good

2102
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:52,119
In other places

2103
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:54,119
It's like everything else

2104
01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:56,119
It fills right up

2105
01:29:56,119 --> 01:29:58,119
Some places you need it

2106
01:29:58,119 --> 01:30:00,119
Some places you don't

2107
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:02,119
Like in that case

2108
01:30:02,119 --> 01:30:04,350
There's an old standard

2109
01:30:04,350 --> 01:30:06,350
Anything more than 5%

2110
01:30:06,350 --> 01:30:08,640
Is supposed to be stone lined

2111
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,640
And that's definitely more than 5%

2112
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,640
Plus it's hydronically connected

2113
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,640
To the river

2114
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,640
So it's supposed to be stone

2115
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:18,640
So they really should have come

2116
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,640
I'm keeping that alarm in my hat

2117
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,640
So if you yell at me

2118
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,640
I'm going to

2119
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,640
Well the stone lined ditch

2120
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,640
Looks beautiful right after you do it

2121
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,640
But the next year

2122
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,640
It's grown in and it fills right in

2123
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,960
In fact

2124
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,960
Three years

2125
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,079
That whole hydronically connected

2126
01:30:39,079 --> 01:30:41,079
Road segments need to be revisited

2127
01:30:41,079 --> 01:30:43,079
Which is something else

2128
01:30:43,079 --> 01:30:45,079
That Jim Henderson is working on

2129
01:30:45,079 --> 01:30:47,079
But you have three years to do it

2130
01:30:47,079 --> 01:30:49,079
So

2131
01:30:49,079 --> 01:30:51,079
Most of the things that we did

2132
01:30:51,079 --> 01:30:53,079
Five years ago

2133
01:30:53,079 --> 01:30:55,079
Are probably not compliant now

2134
01:30:55,079 --> 01:30:57,079
But in the whole

2135
01:30:57,079 --> 01:30:59,079
Scheme of things

2136
01:30:59,079 --> 01:31:01,079
I don't know how they really

2137
01:31:01,079 --> 01:31:03,079
Think they're going to really keep track

2138
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:06,079
Of it all

2139
01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:08,079
So

2140
01:31:08,079 --> 01:31:10,079
Any other correspondence

2141
01:31:10,079 --> 01:31:12,079
Two uniform

2142
01:31:12,079 --> 01:31:14,079
Municipal access permits

2143
01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:16,109
Beacon sales

2144
01:31:16,109 --> 01:31:18,140
And consolidation

2145
01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:20,140
Beacon sales

2146
01:31:20,140 --> 01:31:23,640
Indiana

2147
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,640
What are they selling

2148
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,640
What are they doing here

2149
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,680
Beacon sales

2150
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,680
Acquisition

2151
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,680
What are they

2152
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,680
What's their business

2153
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,680
What a beacon is

2154
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:53,600
i don't know what they did oh it's a roofing supply i don't know what they do but they paid

2155
01:31:53,600 --> 01:32:02,619
their ten dollars and they got their certificate of insurance so sign it motion to sign both of

2156
01:32:02,619 --> 01:32:16,319
these yep prices if you don't mind asking what's that state state system or more motion motion

2157
01:32:16,319 --> 01:32:24,810
motion made a motion second all in favor anything else lori

2158
01:32:27,449 --> 01:32:36,760
old business uh we met with the school board a couple weeks ago it's kind of a good meeting to

2159
01:32:37,399 --> 01:32:41,479
talk about things that we'd like to see and they'd like to see and the bottom line is

2160
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:47,239
we'd like to save money so the prince of the superintendent was going to give us a

2161
01:32:48,970 --> 01:32:54,489
breakdown i guess yeah so what we could and we can't what the town can take over versus the

2162
01:32:54,489 --> 01:32:59,850
school anyway is that that we're going to we're just going to look at it did they get back to us

2163
01:33:07,609 --> 01:33:15,449
yes yes so that we did go in on their meeting did we ever um sat another date for another one of

2164
01:33:15,449 --> 01:33:19,149
those no what about the school

2165
01:33:19,390 --> 01:33:24,750
all boards all boards no not all boards the school was the joint meeting with the school again

2166
01:33:24,750 --> 01:33:30,109
no we did not so we should when we're doing that at the end of that we should ask them if we can

2167
01:33:30,109 --> 01:33:37,069
set another date instead of us going asking them now that we're not they're not here and then wait

2168
01:33:37,069 --> 01:33:42,270
for them to get back to us at the end of those meetings we should put it on the agenda that we

2169
01:33:42,270 --> 01:33:48,619
can set another date and all of us can agree that night because i like i don't like that we only do

2170
01:33:48,619 --> 01:33:49,739
it once a year okay

2171
01:33:49,899 --> 01:33:53,420
no we should do it more often let's try to remember when we meet with them again when he

2172
01:33:53,420 --> 01:33:57,819
gives us the paperwork if we can throw that out all right because i think it'll be our meeting

2173
01:33:59,340 --> 01:34:04,699
yeah you know there was a couple there was it was a good meeting but there was a couple things

2174
01:34:04,699 --> 01:34:11,020
that were mentioned that was in my mind a little disturbing of the future and i don't want to get

2175
01:34:11,020 --> 01:34:18,539
into it because i don't want to start a rumor but the future isn't looking that great in the

2176
01:34:18,539 --> 01:34:19,739
educational department and

2177
01:34:19,899 --> 01:34:25,500
state of vermont and the other thing that bothered me and i will bring this up is for

2178
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:32,380
years and years and years i looked into and i argued with board members uh the chair of the

2179
01:34:32,380 --> 01:34:37,420
board and multiple chairs the board about ownership of this building and we looked at

2180
01:34:37,420 --> 01:34:43,899
deeds and we found that every there's three deeds and all deeds say in one form or another that this

2181
01:34:43,899 --> 01:34:49,420
residents of stanford own this building we have to make sure that we never join an alliance

2182
01:34:50,220 --> 01:34:56,649
that the mem or that the ownership of this building goes through the alliance yes if that

2183
01:34:56,649 --> 01:35:05,079
can be snuck in so easy it almost happened with clarsburg it was northern berkshire a regional

2184
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:13,420
you know educational board or something like that and if we join with them this is an

2185
01:35:13,420 --> 01:35:20,380
that's this is their asset we can never ever let that happen and if i die tomorrow guys remember i'm

2186
01:35:20,380 --> 01:35:26,220
glad you said that because i don't want anybody to forget that no seriously i mean i fought with

2187
01:35:26,220 --> 01:35:31,579
them because they're like no the school owns this hell they do and i'll i'll go down and fight with

2188
01:35:31,579 --> 01:35:38,060
that one yeah once it becomes a school the school has jurisdiction over authority i get i have no

2189
01:35:38,060 --> 01:35:42,859
problem with them locking the doors when kids are over there that's easy yeah but but when

2190
01:35:42,859 --> 01:35:49,739
we want to use that building over there that room it's ours right and we have the authority to use

2191
01:35:49,739 --> 01:35:50,300
that you know we've got to make sure instead of only the school that has the authority to use that

2192
01:35:50,300 --> 01:35:50,359
you know we've got to make sure this is something that we're going to have the right to use and we're

2193
01:35:50,380 --> 01:35:55,579
no kids right now we can go over there right now and for them to say no it's wrong the state

2194
01:35:55,579 --> 01:36:01,500
decides to take all these kids somewhere else yeah the other thing too is they said that the

2195
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:10,199
local school board will just be advisory and if they change if they change the the regions

2196
01:36:10,199 --> 01:36:14,119
right yes to four in the whole state we're not gonna have to say that

2197
01:36:14,119 --> 01:36:20,039
yeah the state runs so shouldn't based on everything that we know and what we've been

2198
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:28,909
that's going on for 10 years it started when i first yeah um so shouldn't like maybe the chief

2199
01:36:28,909 --> 01:36:36,350
or the fire department have a key to this building they do okay all right but at least that's a good

2200
01:36:36,350 --> 01:36:43,390
thing i thought that this this chair or the chair of this board should have key to that and i got

2201
01:36:43,390 --> 01:36:44,029
resistance

2202
01:36:44,189 --> 01:36:53,579
and i said first of all we went down to we know for a fact that out of town people have a key to

2203
01:36:53,579 --> 01:36:59,579
that okay we know for a fact we know that there's there's sports events that go on there there's

2204
01:36:59,579 --> 01:37:06,140
practices that go on there that people from out of this town go over there use our facility and we

2205
01:37:06,140 --> 01:37:12,220
can't trust this woman with a key that if this if this room filled up we can't go over there well

2206
01:37:13,340 --> 01:37:13,579
it is

2207
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:21,420
i don't have my 911 numbers fully displayed so it's on my list

2208
01:37:24,140 --> 01:37:31,100
that word safety when they use that word safety it's thursday night at 8 30 at night there's no

2209
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:36,890
safety there's no kids over there knock it off you know knock it off that's our building we're not

2210
01:37:36,890 --> 01:37:40,409
going into the classrooms we're going over there we're going to use it pick it up and then come

2211
01:37:40,409 --> 01:37:40,970
back over here

2212
01:37:40,970 --> 01:37:54,939
uh any other old words push back any other old business uh did you hear anything back from the

2213
01:37:54,939 --> 01:38:02,619
sign makers i have not even followed up with them all right so yeah it's your fault no she's busy

2214
01:38:03,500 --> 01:38:06,460
do we even have a design uh yeah we have a design

2215
01:38:07,340 --> 01:38:11,340
it was the same one that was approved when we were originally going to do it it's just going to be

2216
01:38:11,340 --> 01:38:13,020
bigger but uh

2217
01:38:13,979 --> 01:38:19,930
stanford school uh town office library if i'm not mistaken right right

2218
01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:24,649
what's that the biggest match allowed by your

2219
01:38:26,140 --> 01:38:32,380
you know your rules what's your what's the um what is this i go a little bit more 64

2220
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:39,319
quarter actually actually we fall under the state guidelines so you can go 64. right which is huge

2221
01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:41,159
so we're just waiting on it

2222
01:38:41,159 --> 01:38:44,039
oh yeah

2223
01:38:44,199 --> 01:38:44,760
i don't know what the color

2224
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,039
i definitely don't want rich bear to see if someone matches it

2225
01:38:51,399 --> 01:38:51,960
they will

2226
01:38:53,079 --> 01:38:54,439
good don't make me

2227
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:01,800
i got different tape measures measures different things so don't worry about it

2228
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:11,800
yeah and you know what's going on with the sign that was out there is behind the generator bill

2229
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,640
said actually it brings on it brought it down

2230
01:39:14,199 --> 01:39:25,239
that's having something that's going on is that a fire department volunteer job has to come move

2231
01:39:25,239 --> 01:39:36,680
our man lift from fluff road up to your place yeah so i haven't talked to my husband about this but

2232
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:47,130
if we could just kind of do a diversion and stop here and put it up how is it going to be mounted

2233
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:53,770
is it well he's got to come up with some mounting system yeah i mean he might be moving it does the

2234
01:39:53,770 --> 01:40:00,569
steel frame have to be put on that i i don't know it looks like it's three pieces in a steel frame

2235
01:40:01,369 --> 01:40:06,890
yeah it's three pieces but if you took the steel off the outside because it's going to be mounted

2236
01:40:06,890 --> 01:40:07,130
now

2237
01:40:07,850 --> 01:40:13,210
and you just put the screws and touch them together it would be a lot lighter you've got

2238
01:40:13,210 --> 01:40:18,329
the letters on there as long as they're not going as long as the letters are on no you keep it the

2239
01:40:18,329 --> 01:40:22,729
same way as it is you just take the steel off and then lighten it up the frame is holding it

2240
01:40:22,729 --> 01:40:29,689
together right now you need a few guys to mount that oh yeah that steel is well if you need a few

2241
01:40:30,810 --> 01:40:36,729
is it right yeah because it's that command was created for the for the book and the sign i think

2242
01:40:36,729 --> 01:40:37,449
it's only three

2243
01:40:38,409 --> 01:40:41,050
pounds oh that oh that sign don't wait

2244
01:40:45,289 --> 01:40:46,250
i just brought it down

2245
01:40:48,409 --> 01:40:54,489
you're not allowed to like mount your 200 pounds yeah but like if i was in there

2246
01:40:54,489 --> 01:41:00,250
you couldn't put that sign in there whether you'd have to have like a couple of blips or yeah it's

2247
01:41:00,250 --> 01:41:03,770
awkward i don't think probably i know don't you want to do it

2248
01:41:03,770 --> 01:41:07,449
i hear like that quick cover or whatever not a market like somebody that puts that stuff up

2249
01:41:08,409 --> 01:41:13,050
you want to have somebody that calculates the weight yeah yeah if it falls on some kid

2250
01:41:17,210 --> 01:41:21,930
mike's got the right idea to take that frame off of there then you could put one board up

2251
01:41:21,930 --> 01:41:25,289
then another board right it's a lot lighter that way yeah it would look good

2252
01:41:30,489 --> 01:41:37,449
once we come up with our our historical building we can ask for the other sign back

2253
01:41:37,609 --> 01:41:43,449
put that in there and we can have a write-up about the whole history of the stars i don't

2254
01:41:43,449 --> 01:41:48,409
think we have enough paper it'll be right next to the ice cream wars i don't think there's enough

2255
01:41:48,409 --> 01:41:59,210
paper yeah once about a time you know there was a sign okay go down just put that back out there

2256
01:42:00,729 --> 01:42:05,529
i don't like it the first one no the big one

2257
01:42:06,329 --> 01:42:11,930
no are you kidding me oh my goodness you gotta pull you gotta pull up to it stop your vehicle

2258
01:42:11,930 --> 01:42:17,930
and look to see what it says well it's doesn't say it right so i don't see it at all right it's only

2259
01:42:17,930 --> 01:42:23,930
a one-sided i know but letters yeah then you'd have to look down here on the premises

2260
01:42:28,729 --> 01:42:30,970
the library i know

2261
01:42:31,289 --> 01:42:33,270
Is it a TFT mounted on the building?

2262
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:35,050
Could it be mounted on the building?

2263
01:42:35,529 --> 01:42:40,970
it go under the sign that is right on the side of the building there though i wanted to donate

2264
01:42:40,970 --> 01:42:47,529
it to the people down the road but she didn't put her own up it's a perfect sign for driving

2265
01:42:47,529 --> 01:42:53,369
into town what's that you want to donate i'll put it up on my new land down there

2266
01:42:53,369 --> 01:42:55,210
i'm not getting a permit either it's art

2267
01:42:58,750 --> 01:43:03,069
i think the cows aren't facing the right way i think they should turn so you can see them both

2268
01:43:03,069 --> 01:43:11,149
sides i don't wait i'm waiting for someone to let's have it rotate right they will yeah oh

2269
01:43:11,149 --> 01:43:16,750
definitely what's that jim i'm looking for someone to finally complain i'm sure they're

2270
01:43:16,750 --> 01:43:21,630
going to follow the plate on my rifle range that's not a real color cow either the golf

2271
01:43:21,630 --> 01:43:25,789
court's probably going to play about that i've had mine for a couple years yeah but i got it

2272
01:43:25,789 --> 01:43:32,270
right down behind the golf course i don't know okay let's move on here and uh all right um

2273
01:43:32,909 --> 01:43:32,989
don't

2274
01:43:33,069 --> 01:43:40,939
dogs do we know how dog's registration is coming in slowly for sure hey while luke's out doing

2275
01:43:40,939 --> 01:43:48,140
those dogs can he put check the 911 sign just trying to be more efficient guys we have had

2276
01:43:48,140 --> 01:43:56,779
people come in after now knocking down the door no well let's get a list and or you want i'll love

2277
01:43:56,779 --> 01:44:04,600
you want me to get an update from luke bring them on whatever you want yeah i'll get an update

2278
01:44:05,079 --> 01:44:05,159
you

2279
01:44:05,239 --> 01:44:07,239
see

2280
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:23,180
okay um new business seminar a couple of days ago on ordinance enforcement

2281
01:44:25,239 --> 01:44:35,640
nobody showed up nobody showed up yeah they did have some ideas of how to continue to

2282
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:43,720
enforce it when you send the ticket in and this person pays a ticket for some list of places so go to

2283
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:48,039
what did they say how well then you have to enter it into a different court

2284
01:44:49,079 --> 01:44:51,239
have to enter it into a different different court

2285
01:44:53,319 --> 01:44:59,960
so we have to really so we have to renew all these ordinances no i don't think so i mean

2286
01:45:01,069 --> 01:45:09,449
if they if they don't license the dog and they just pay the fine they haven't really cured the

2287
01:45:09,449 --> 01:45:14,489
violation no right you know but then we have we just have to keep the first student out again

2288
01:45:14,489 --> 01:45:18,250
yeah just they'd like to push back

2289
01:45:19,050 --> 01:45:25,930
yeah yeah like that's just stupid you're paying the fines and raising your money i know i got one

2290
01:45:25,930 --> 01:45:35,949
thing i i forgot about um i looked into uh one of my workers got a one of those mini splits right

2291
01:45:35,949 --> 01:45:42,510
mini splits and he put it in a room a little bit thinner in this room but about the same length

2292
01:45:43,069 --> 01:45:44,909
it's amazing they're amazing

2293
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:53,689
it's sixteen hundred dollars installed can we look at if we could get i think maybe two of them

2294
01:45:54,329 --> 01:45:59,529
they're very efficient they're a hell of a lot better than that and they heat it they're both

2295
01:46:00,250 --> 01:46:04,569
what one i mean you can't even breathe you shut that door during the executive session you go in

2296
01:46:04,569 --> 01:46:09,850
there you can't breathe yep air conditioning they're great they tend to struggle when you get

2297
01:46:09,850 --> 01:46:15,930
below like 35 degrees with the heat yeah i mean even at that we already got heat so i'm just saying

2298
01:46:17,369 --> 01:46:23,529
a fall day you could have it not you know it'll save on our furnace over there but if maybe if you

2299
01:46:23,529 --> 01:46:29,369
don't need that you can just get a central air or something for fifteen hundred dollars and if you

2300
01:46:29,369 --> 01:46:34,649
do two of them we're talking three grand and i bet you the install will be less if you do two of them

2301
01:46:34,649 --> 01:46:41,789
because the guy's already here we ought to look into that i'm saying you have a guy who uh who

2302
01:46:41,789 --> 01:46:46,989
installs them this was uh no it was um the guy in town here um joe veresky

2303
01:46:47,630 --> 01:46:52,350
he does it yeah he does it so i mean the guys right here in town you know i mean you can get

2304
01:47:02,909 --> 01:47:10,109
yeah well they're not that hard i mean but you know he you know he did it because he's working

2305
01:47:10,109 --> 01:47:14,670
for me so he don't have a lot of time so we just called joe up joe's my plumber and then we have a

2306
01:47:16,189 --> 01:47:17,069
electrician did the

2307
01:47:17,630 --> 01:47:22,670
was like five minutes and that was uh another time resident gary bellows he's the second in

2308
01:47:22,670 --> 01:47:28,430
command for national grid he knows what he's doing you know so i mean i'm saying if you

2309
01:47:29,229 --> 01:47:36,109
you talk with three thousand dollars and it's comfortable yeah yes i believe though that is the

2310
01:47:36,109 --> 01:47:42,109
only heat source this is the only thing for this room so we can look into what it would

2311
01:47:42,109 --> 01:47:46,270
you know if it's if there's a better system out there then yeah you know

2312
01:47:47,630 --> 01:47:51,229
yeah but i could look into it some more thank you

2313
01:47:51,229 --> 01:47:55,710
that means that my my mother just put them in her house she was burning oil

2314
01:47:55,710 --> 01:48:02,590
yeah and uh they got she got a grant to do it well mass is doing a lot of that yeah and so

2315
01:48:02,590 --> 01:48:10,670
i would she says it for 67 degrees yep and it's 67 degrees year-round this this is her first full

2316
01:48:10,670 --> 01:48:16,510
year and then every time i walk in it says 67 years it's just perfect all the time yeah

2317
01:48:17,630 --> 01:48:25,470
is the heat in here on oil or just i know this is electric this is it is this oil oil yes so i have

2318
01:48:25,470 --> 01:48:32,750
heat over there but no air and then okay all it has is that for the heat and air i'll tell you i'll

2319
01:48:32,750 --> 01:48:40,859
look into it for the technology that is the mini split system it gets better and better so they're

2320
01:48:40,859 --> 01:48:46,460
now kind of closer to 20 degrees now yeah than they used to be

2321
01:48:48,460 --> 01:48:53,180
again you're not you're not talking to keep this room comfortable all the time oh right we're not

2322
01:48:55,579 --> 01:49:00,140
sure sure yeah i mean i think it just seems like a pretty good system

2323
01:49:01,449 --> 01:49:06,409
the state you know i mean they're going electric everybody's going electric so i mean it wouldn't

2324
01:49:06,409 --> 01:49:11,130
hurt to get on board if they're especially if there's grant money out there uh you know i

2325
01:49:11,130 --> 01:49:17,930
know in the state of massachusetts now if you build a house it has to be electric yeah you can

2326
01:49:18,649 --> 01:49:24,489
put a wood stove in later the incentive is 30 percent back yeah so i'll look into it i'll talk

2327
01:49:24,489 --> 01:49:29,609
to joe uh get back to you guys on if he wants to look at it if you guys want to get another quote

2328
01:49:29,609 --> 01:49:42,039
with other people we can do that what's that i'm sorry yeah you know lisa our highway guys didn't

2329
01:49:42,039 --> 01:49:47,239
have running water or sewer up until about five years ago you're running a switch off the one

2330
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:55,000
we bring rivers well only up the road where we're doing some marijuana growing that's all

2331
01:49:56,039 --> 01:50:00,600
not you no no no i didn't say with you i'd like to get a new rug for out there because that's been in

2332
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:10,539
probably close to 30 years what broke for the town office it's pretty worn i suppose you want flowers

2333
01:50:10,539 --> 01:50:16,699
too i'm talking about well i got the flowers out the front there man versus women yeah that's the

2334
01:50:16,699 --> 01:50:18,939
way it is and the curtain's got to be pretty they got to match

2335
01:50:19,260 --> 01:50:23,789
them yeah any other new business yes mike please look into that

2336
01:50:26,539 --> 01:50:32,779
if you want to get three quotes do we don't actually need them do we need them

2337
01:50:32,779 --> 01:50:42,119
it's got to be certified insured which is which he is yeah um any other new business

2338
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:52,060
no okay um could i have a motion to go in executive session for personnel yeah and for

2339
01:50:52,460 --> 01:50:59,659
or probable civil litigation do we have any of that lori yes oh yes okay not the personnel ball

2340
01:50:59,659 --> 01:51:14,159
right just both both okay okay oh you're coming in yes so um motion to go in second all in favor

2341
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:23,119
you

2342
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,640
Did you add the yellow flowers in after?

2343
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,640
No, they were there.

2344
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:29,640
They were?

2345
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:30,640
Yeah.

2346
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:31,640
They do look beautiful.

2347
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:32,640
Thank you.

2348
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:33,640
Thank you.

2349
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:34,640
Hi.

2350
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,310
Are you Lori Cramey?

2351
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:38,310
You can come in later too.

2352
01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:44,529
Here's our motion to come out of executive session by Kurt and Doug.

2353
01:51:44,529 --> 01:51:45,529
All in favor?

2354
01:51:45,529 --> 01:51:46,689
Aye.

2355
01:51:46,689 --> 01:51:47,689
Okay.

2356
01:51:47,689 --> 01:52:01,329
The action that we took in executive session, listers, the hourly rate will be set based

2357
01:52:01,329 --> 01:52:02,329
on experience.

2358
01:52:02,329 --> 01:52:07,640
Lori, how do we say that?

2359
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:10,640
Qualifications and experience.

2360
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:20,180
The assistant town clerk, hours up to 25 hours per week and salary based on experience.

2361
01:52:20,180 --> 01:52:21,180
Okay.

2362
01:52:21,180 --> 01:52:24,470
So, experience and qualifications.

2363
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:36,250
And third, we are going to advise the attorney to proceed as he outlined.

2364
01:52:36,250 --> 01:52:37,250
Good enough.

2365
01:52:37,250 --> 01:52:38,250
That's the motion.

2366
01:52:38,250 --> 01:52:39,600
Second.

2367
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:40,989
All in favor?

2368
01:52:40,989 --> 01:52:41,989
Aye.

2369
01:52:41,989 --> 01:52:42,989
All right.

2370
01:52:42,989 --> 01:52:44,689
Mike, can you?

2371
01:52:44,689 --> 01:52:45,689
Motion to adjourn.

2372
01:52:45,689 --> 01:52:46,920
Sorry.

2373
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:47,920
I think she should wait.

2374
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:48,920
Kurt, all in favor?

2375
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:49,920
Aye.

2376
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:50,920
Okay.

2377
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:51,920
That's it.