Speaker 1: I do have the reappraisal agreement. Okay.

Speaker 2: Stand wherever you're

Speaker 3: Stand on the stage over there.

Speaker 5: It would be a public safety thing.

Speaker 3: Please, I'm sorry.

Speaker 9: Right, right, yeah.

Speaker 1: It would take forever. If I didn't make an adjustment and said that there's no building on the property, they waived that requirement. Oh, okay. If there's a building, it's still safe. Okay, all right.

Speaker 10: Jonathan, one more...

Speaker 10: I see. So what happens?

Speaker 1: And it might... It might void the tax sale. That would be it. We spoke with the attorney today and he said that you will not have a tax sale. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 11: You won't do it.

Speaker 12: is AI. Yeah. That's good. No comments.

Speaker 14: is the part that legislators need to be more willing to do. So, one of the largest items on our school budget is the healthcare insurance. And I'm wondering what the legislature is doing to try and tackle that. Get to the root cause of it and tackle it.

Speaker 14: the wrong way. How big is the pharmaceutical lobby in the state? I mean how much pressure are they

Speaker 15: putting on

Speaker 16: Take it out.

Speaker 17: That also applies with the state. Right.

Speaker 14: Right. That also applies with the state education supervisory districts that they're planning too. These giant districts where we're going to be some tiny little voice out in Brattleboro somewhere and they got all these big wigs out in Brattleboro. We'll be nobody. So, we won't have much of a say when that happens. I'll try to respond to kind of both of those. They're similar. That's why I wanted to throw that in. I think that it is... You know, we have this experience that we've had just going back 30 years to when the Brigham decision under the Montefiore Court ruled that we were not going to be able to vote. Right.

Speaker 15: Right.

Speaker 18: Right.

Speaker 15: Right.

Speaker 19: You've got to do it.

Speaker 19: How are we going to do it?

Speaker 20: Too much.

Speaker 12: A little too long. I had that conversation. And. With a. With a person. Who's your. Transportation planner there. Mark. Mark. So. The conversation. Was just. Just about that. And we were talking about taxes and stuff like that. Can't. The regional commission. Because of that. Not being able to afford. Reappraisal every six years. Because. You know. You know. You know. You know. You know. They don't have the right to pay. Every six years. Could that be. Treated. Sort of. Like the. Town plan. And the bylaws. With the. You know. Being able to get a grant. To do that.

Speaker 12: I'm glad you got it. Okay. Let me. Let me. Subject. Question. It's speaking it. On grants and stuff. We had had a conversation. A couple. A few times about. Playground equipment. And stuff. Yes. And I know. You know. or something yeah it's um so that's where we're at here and i know our principal here is interested

Speaker 20: in what you have to say so i'll start with that last part we'll talk um the building communities

Speaker 22: Well, my last page here is the email and they said any requests have to come from the select board. Okay. Okay. So you have a group that's gonna put them up and take you down. I don't know. I don't know that.

Speaker 23: They've been doing an all word list. I think it's a great idea. Um, I don't see any negative at all to it. So I have no problem doing, you know, go ahead and discuss this and get back to me. I mean, I'm not, you know, I, I don't expect an answer right now.

Speaker 24: affair in benedictine okay yeah because my my uncle pad got here he's really involved

Speaker 25: power companies could come and get them down i didn't know if the saint was going to take them

Speaker 22: down if they're on the state highway and i don't know i don't i just you know i i just need to

Speaker 26: when is it possible a way to put it on like a

Speaker 27: or

Speaker 28: make a comment i know that denise sahay has been looking yes okay very good thank you so uh

Speaker 25: as it's done in other towns along other highways and i don't know if they're putting new polls from

Speaker 29: generation that their kids made right we did have you're doing uh all veterans not just deceased

Speaker 30: here when they enlisted or the application says what is your connection to the town went to school

Speaker 26: absolutely i don't see why not thank you

Speaker 31: i just wanted to do everything from what i understand too is now they're

Speaker 32: changing all the bowls they're still leaving the old one on they think they're part of the amount of nutrition side yeah so there would be a whole number of set of holes that could be used outside of that area

Speaker 33: Any other visitors, comments from visitors?

Speaker 17: Lisa, go on. I just want to clarify, you just pointed out to me in the minute 11 meeting, it did sound kind of like the plan was just working on a municipal water system, which we are not, we're really looking towards planning with the eye on. Not. Right. Exactly. We're trying to say it nicely. We understand. We want to make sure that the meetings, the minutes, don't sound like we're letting people. People are working on that, but we're not. Yeah, we don't want people to read the minutes and think that we are doing something, but we are not only not doing that,

Speaker 17: we're proactively trying to be standing around with conservation and . Protecting water sources. Yeah.

Speaker 34: No, we're not.

Speaker 35: Okay, go on.

Speaker 29: for the summer.

Speaker 36: I do too.

Speaker 32: It is not.

Speaker 17: And in fact, when we get into it, because my father-in-law is on the select board in Miami, he can't really get any more information.

Speaker 17: The more I look at the figures, the more I think we're definitely deviating away from that.

Speaker 17: Yes.

Speaker 17: Anything else?

Speaker 2: this,

Speaker 25: this,

Speaker 2: this,

Speaker 25: this,

Speaker 2: this,

Speaker 25: this,

Speaker 25: how do you think your rope came out it looked better before it got swept

Speaker 37: and east road is probably unholding next year too i'm sure that's next year i haven't heard

Speaker 37: was the holiday yeah so don't work on the holiday please no i mean it's not a big deal if we're out

Speaker 25: And they also said that they were going to.

Speaker 38: But I did talk to them.

Speaker 38: What is it called?

Speaker 35: Okay.

Speaker 39: Well it's just like you were all just talking about first about the lobbyist.

Speaker 25: It sure is.

Speaker 2: Anything else, Dave, on highway?

Speaker 25: Well, it was in, it was in.

Speaker 40: Yeah.

Speaker 41: Because of that.

Speaker 42: So.

Speaker 32: Everybody does this. That's a stupid question. I know we own the compactor. The containers that everything they put into. Do we own those too as well? Or is that a consolidated thing?

Speaker 32: Right.

Speaker 26: Is it worth trying to implement fees for these people that are from out of state like you said part time residents that aren't full time residents. Is there a way to implement a higher don't fee for those particular people to offset the cost of it?

Speaker 17: I don't know why we.

Speaker 26: Because like I said North Adams City Dump they have it open to everybody. The non-residents residents they'll take all your trash. There's a higher fee for the people that are non-residents. So I don't know if that's the way this town wants to go because they're operated like a business. We don't make any money

Speaker 32: at the dump that's for sure. Right. Versus something we can

Speaker 43: I see what you're saying. And then that means

Speaker 17: We need to update them.

Speaker 44: We should start looking at things like this.

Speaker 39: that don't use that are paying it

Speaker 35: to do that.

Speaker 39: I know but I just think I think that's service

Speaker 45: personally that I should provide.

Speaker 46: You don't lose it.

Speaker 47: but what is the income and what's the expense?

Speaker 26: It's not like we We bring in 15,000. As a minister and it costs I don't know if we have to.

Speaker 1: Well do you have to? 80?

Speaker 1: We're only bringing in 15,000.

Speaker 48: It is free.

Speaker 49: We can't lose that 15,000. We can't lose that 15,000.

Speaker 28: That's the thing.

Speaker 14: But I do understand it's dark in here. It's a collective thing.

Speaker 26: Yeah. Well she charges for items too isn't that part of that too?

Speaker 1: Yeah that's $3,000 and selling the cars is $12,000 so $15,000 total.

Speaker 1: a lot more than $3,000. It's just wrapped into the cycling cost.

Speaker 1: Well do you want just the cost do you want just that recycling cost not including people and all of it?

Speaker 26: They charge by the weight.

Speaker 50: When I do go

Speaker 26: Yeah so when you go there you pay for a sticker an initial fee and then you're charged for your weight Sure

Speaker 35: and be nice to them

Speaker 26: They charge for problem for trash Excuse me

Speaker 2: Okay

Speaker 51: in the river

Speaker 25: advertise it

Speaker 2: we're fairly lucky

Speaker 25: it's not going to be

Speaker 1: we just dust that anything else on it is that good okay correspondence do we have a chance to read it

Speaker 16: is Nemrick a lobbyist

Speaker 52: that work with us I think they work pretty closely with the League of Cities and Towns as much connection as they

Speaker 2: that ever get back to us

Speaker 53: RPs

Speaker 1: 72 72 everybody on their list I got one company from Boston and Nemrick

Speaker 54: well look at what we did

Speaker 55: they were paying way too much

Speaker 56: all these years

Speaker 32: you'd be like holy crap I could move into this I think one of the biggest things too is the appraisal because it happens so this is what it was this is what it was

Speaker 43: just recently you saw

Speaker 39: well that number don't make sense to me

Speaker 1: so this is $86,400 they will start in 2030 with a completion date of 2032

Speaker 26: was it monthly so it's $3600 for 24 months they don't have an hourly rate on there

Speaker 1: it will hearings beyond DCA will be

Speaker 57: that's part of the $86,000

Speaker 26: so your paying concerns prior to is paid in full free do you hear that

Speaker 26: I don't know if there's interest on it but then there's $150 an hour yeah so there's

Speaker 38: disputes

Speaker 50: if I'm in the business of

Speaker 26: doing this I'm going to make mistakes

Speaker 2: is to

Speaker 58: so these people

Speaker 32: that say well I'm going to complain

Speaker 59: but they can't

Speaker 1: come to my house what are you hiding

Speaker 2: whatever it is

Speaker 25: motion

Speaker 60: it's just we went so far

Speaker 1: 25 years without having to re-appraise and our numbers didn't change enough to trigger I know when we bought

Speaker 39: and many more bigger

Speaker 47: that's just the way it is

Speaker 60: or something like that

Speaker 26: jobs are made possible a lot of those bills

Speaker 50: they're trying to justify their jobs

Speaker 61: that's what they do

Speaker 62: I put in one

Speaker 52: I put in one and it became a law so I've never done another one 100% it gets totally to the constituents

Speaker 2: is move the slide

Speaker 2: well in the meantime

Speaker 63: once the school is closed

Speaker 64: but the loss

Speaker 65: close it or get it fixed

Speaker 2: but we'll see

Speaker 25: because it was defective

Speaker 2: same as last year

Speaker 37: I don't want one

Speaker 66: waste of money

Speaker 49: so this is election

Speaker 67: and I'm like yeah I want to vote

Speaker 1: they can't stop you from voting so the first thing would be bring your ballot with you fill it in or blank and go in the booth and fill it out or stick it in the box option 2 is if you don't have your ballot you're going to have to sign a waiver saying I have not previously voted and then you'll be given a ballot the problem is people are like I don't want to sign the waiver I just want to vote

Speaker 45: I mean the mail is just

Speaker 28: everyone

Speaker 38: fear fear

Speaker 38: well I can tell you right now

Speaker 38: out west

Speaker 49: I mean so that's

Speaker 55: but that's not

Speaker 68: I just don't believe that

Speaker 68: I don't believe it

Speaker 38: they literally had

Speaker 69: I want to know where you got those numbers

Speaker 32: is that the whole point of our conversation was to make things less subjective

Speaker 70: right

Speaker 32: there's people to do what we want them to do which is

Speaker 43: and if we say you do not tax chicken coops

Speaker 38: they have a check box

Speaker 35: 300 square feet

Speaker 63: is a birdhouse of structure

Speaker 71: your 300 square foot

Speaker 1: so we did look up the permitted uses and it says anything that encloses equipment vehicles or animals requires a permit

Speaker 72: I had a really nice dog kennel

Speaker 38: there's a beautiful chicken coop

Speaker 49: that's nice

Speaker 73: I think it was

Speaker 52: yeah and it's bigger than 300 square foot

Speaker 2: I don't want

Speaker 74: those are things that bother me

Speaker 1: that's why they recommend they get a permit for everything

Speaker 39: under 300 square foot

Speaker 2: yeah

Speaker 74: you can have two signs

Speaker 32: go off the road they're gone you technically can't have them in Vermont anyways

Speaker 39: because it's considered a billboard

Speaker 1: so if you think about not having permits for 300 or less can you waive the setbacks for 300 or less

Speaker 75: how can you police that

Speaker 38: whatever he does yeah but okay

Speaker 12: you know what I mean

Speaker 38: and 17 now

Speaker 66: I have a question

Speaker 70: for every shed

Speaker 32: again so back to letting the town know that these things exist and so I say if we're going to do that so you come down here $15 fee that's where it ends that's where it should end and then if my next door neighbor has a problem where I put it then we have a record of what was going on and where it should have been so then we can have some recourse for it but if we don't have this piece of paper there's no way it becomes a huge mess right I feel like

Speaker 70: because nobody takes them down

Speaker 76: right

Speaker 32: I think it's good for us to have the money to go down but for her to actually go down

Speaker 77: and do all that kind of stuff

Speaker 26: where the house could we like post it down here somewhere

Speaker 78: like yeah he's got a permit here

Speaker 79: like I do the actual

Speaker 26: hearing because she's getting into the same thing I mean I know

Speaker 58: we're back to you

Speaker 32: the only thing I think we actually need to do with this is the size but then it goes down to the planning commission situation that it needs to state in the rules for our bylaws that we would like you to sign off fill out the permit applications pay your fifteen dollars so we know what's going on but that's where it stops so that anyone who picks up our bylaws knows what's going on because the way I see it you can read them and what I think is totally different than what she thinks and what you think so if it just says

Speaker 35: but if somebody has a bird house and it's awesome

Speaker 39: we don't worry about it

Speaker 35: the bird house

Speaker 39: only because

Speaker 39: under 300

Speaker 76: oh tax

Speaker 2: but when we do

Speaker 25: it's crazy

Speaker 45: you can't tell me there's not

Speaker 35: you have to have intelligence when you have intelligence

Speaker 35: but they're not in this section a primitive camp can have an outhouse

Speaker 80: it didn't say you can't

Speaker 28: so we're going to try to fix that I mean that's a thing

Speaker 14: it's this much

Speaker 26: for a whole weekend why is there an orange

Speaker 81: or one with a tomato plant

Speaker 14: exactly

Speaker 32: I'll get the paperwork have you not just totally gone off

Speaker 49: tomato plants it came from me okay

Speaker 1: from the dog people we have not heard anyone who received this letter of fines I did license one dog today a fellow came in to license two dogs the other day I could do one because he did pay the fine the other dog I didn't have a rabies certificate so he's got up for appointment in October

Speaker 82: I mean this is a slow window

Speaker 39: spend all that money for $20

Speaker 83: and keep watching them

Speaker 28: can I ask for an update before you guys go into executive session can I ask for an update on the tax sale has anybody come in and paid their stuff

Speaker 84: what's going on

Speaker 1: we've had several properties come off the list I think we're down to two at this point can you tell us which two

Speaker 1: yeah they're out there first one is and

Speaker 67: second one

Speaker 45: all the other ones have been taken care of

Speaker 66: well

Speaker 1: how does that work they pay the whole thing in full tax, penalty, interest, the attorney's fees the cost of the sale, the publication everything that's worse than the dog deal

Speaker 85: that's so stupid

Speaker 26: they didn't have the money they had to go to borrow

Speaker 61: they had to go find Peter to pay for all

Speaker 45: if there was a cloud on the title

Speaker 66: he can't buy it

Speaker 69: on the title

Speaker 86: before this is sorted

Speaker 87: because

Speaker 75: did you find it?

Speaker 88: but I might have to find the same

Speaker 1: let me check my file but I made a comment

Speaker 75: I know

Speaker 89: you don't have to set it for money Dan

Speaker 32: so we've got the motion to go into executive session

Speaker 90: second

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