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See? You never know. You pick the chairs up, and people want to come in and sit.

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Yep. Okay.

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Well, we've interviewed three candidates, and we've probably made our decision in our mind,

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but we want to discuss them here at the open session.

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What do you want to do?

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Well, I think that...

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Just make a motion?

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I think that it was a good... I'm impressed the way we did this.

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It's kind of a first time for us to do this type of format.

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I'm proud of the town and the people for having this many candidates and saying,

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you know, I said this before, a lot of towns are begging.

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You go right down to Clashburg, you got three slot men,

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and they can't fill the positions half the time.

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So it's very impressive.

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Yeah.

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Proud to be in this town.

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And all three candidates care about the town, that's for sure.

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That's, yes.

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So it's always a tough decision.

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Because, you know, you're sitting there saying, we all got to live in this town.

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We all know each other.

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So, I mean, I really commend all three of them.

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That's my little speech.

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I agree.

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I know all three.

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Can work with all three.

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I did that on the fly, you know.

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I didn't even write that down.

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Got it out of his hand.

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Got it out of his hand.

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So, what's your opinion, Jeff?

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I think we've done a good job for what we...

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What we've been forced to do.

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And I think it's a good start for us to have.

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Because when we're not here, the next people can actually take it

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and still know the road straight.

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Still kind of like, I don't know, they didn't do it this way.

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That's the way it's always been done.

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Oh, yeah.

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I think it's definitely time for us to get out of the...

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That's the way it's always been done.

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Yeah.

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Make it that way.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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John?

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You're good with our interviews?

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Yeah.

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I missed the last meeting.

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Oh, it's true.

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So, I'm almost like really trying to get on it.

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It's true.

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Okay.

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But I think it's a good thing to interview.

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Can he even make a decision because...

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Should be interviewing these positions.

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They're important positions.

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Should he even make a vote because he wasn't here for the other two interviews

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and they were done with executive senate?

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I personally think that everybody on the board always has a vote.

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If he wants to...

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If John wants to recuse himself because of that, that's up to him.

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Yeah.

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It's up to him.

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I don't think we have to force him to do that.

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Like I said, it's an important position of the planning board.

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There's a lot of things going on, new things coming down the pipeline

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that the board needs to adjust and prepare for.

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Really need to interview for these positions

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and make sure you put somebody in there that knows how

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and the correct way to handle those.

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So, I wasn't even aware that the state literally mandates

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that you do these town plans.

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What was that?

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Every five years?

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Yeah.

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Every eight years.

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So, the better you do it this time, the easier it might be for the next time.

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The more half-assed we do it this time or the time before and the time before,

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the harder it becomes for you to get in.

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And then the state steps in and says, oh, you really should do this.

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You know what I mean?

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It's like having a business plan.

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Right.

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It makes it easier.

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I mean, we're trying to voice it, and I know it can be pretty clever

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if you just let the CRC just write it.

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Right.

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Right.

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We're trying to have it.

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We're trying to have a voice.

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Right.

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Because we're a unique town, a real unique town.

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And you can't afford to not do things right because you don't do things right,

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and guess what?

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You get something in your town that you didn't want

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because you didn't really realize what you were doing,

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and you left something out, and oh, no.

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Yeah.

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So, there's no, you know, you really have to try to do things right.

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And you don't like, you know,

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once you get something, you can't, it's like having a tenant and you can try to get them up.

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Oh, no.

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Yeah, once something happens, it's done.

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Encouraging people to partake in the process now because once it's written and voted in,

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then it's, that's usually when everyone reads it, like, it's all fine, and I'll read it,

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and then I've got 10 more answers.

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Yeah, and then you go, oh, no, what did I do?

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Read it now, and read it now, and come down and.

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Yeah, while we are on record here, I hope people read your letter that you sent it out, survey.

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Yeah, it should be coming in the mail.

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And get some answers.

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Yeah.

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And it will be an announcement about the walking tour, too, so please put that in the minutes again.

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Yeah, so people that watch this might not be on Facebook, but I doubt it, but it might not be.

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Even more important than the walking tour might be the meeting afterwards.

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Yeah.

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Walking tour is noontime, and the meeting is 1.30 and 1.30.

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This is on June.

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This Saturday.

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Oh, this Saturday.

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Why don't you put up a little, why don't you put up a sign at the dump because you'll still have,

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people will still have time, in fact, we'll be out at the dump.

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We'll be out at the dump next time.

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Yes.

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I know.

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Okay.

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I need to make a motion to appoint someone to the planning commission to fill Stephanie

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Shelburne's four-year term, which will be up in 2029.

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29?

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Yep.

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I'm going to make the motion.

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Oh, oh, oh, what, what, what?

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I just took her for a position that's up in 2029.

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Yep.

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You're committed for four years.

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Don't make us go through this again.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'll take the motion to appoint Pam Thornton.

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I'll second it.

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Okay.

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Any objections?

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Uh, do we want to roll, or just all in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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You're it, Pam.

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Congratulations.

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Yep.

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And also, again, I want the other two candidates, I hope we send something to them.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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I'll continue to go to the meetings.

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You can be a voice on the other side.

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Pam Thornton.

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Pam's done that many a time over here.

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Sometimes that's, yeah, more powerful, yeah.

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And if there is a,

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because we have had a turnover on the plaintiff board.

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If there is someone that leaves again in the near future,

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I think the board should look at the two candidates

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that we already have, and if it goes maybe six months

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or something, they might ask again.

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But we already have everything fresh.

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We've already interviewed them.

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We can decide then.

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Yes.

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So.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I'm gonna have to disagree.

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Okay.

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I mean, I'm gonna have to disagree.

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As a member of the planning commission.

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Well, I mean, not even as a member

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of the planning commission.

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No, no, yeah.

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Because the reality is,

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there could be someone else already in town

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that would be preferable.

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There could be someone else

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that moves into town.

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I don't know.

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Do you think we should advertise it now?

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No, I think if you have this process,

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and this is what you're gonna do,

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and you're gonna interview people,

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then every time there's an opening,

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you should put it out, and you should interview people.

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That's what's in our guidelines.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I know.

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I was just thinking more of a short turnover,

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like if someone quit next week,

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it'd be awful ridiculous to go through this whole process.

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And would you have to?

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Yeah, except for where you're gonna draw the line.

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Well, is it next week?

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Is it three weeks?

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Well, can we do this then?

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Can we compromise?

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If we were to advertise it,

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and in that time period that we always advertise,

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I don't know what it is, two weeks or something,

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no one else but those two candidates show up,

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do we have to go through the interview system again,

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since we've already done it?

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If it's within a month's time,

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I don't think we should have to do that again.

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I don't think we should need to.

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It's fresh in our minds.

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We already interviewed.

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Don't put them through it again.

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Right.

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Sometime soon, but you never know.

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So, I mean, I guess we could crush that bridge

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when we get there, but then again,

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we might have to put it in a policy to say this.

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I'm just saying is, we just spent quite a bit of time

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waiting for this position to be filled.

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If someone leaves next week,

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we already got two candidates in the line.

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And it'll take another month

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to go through the whole process again,

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plus we're getting paid to do this.

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Well, it costs money to have a special meeting.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So.

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I mean, it's up, you could think about it

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for the next select board meeting.

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We can decide then.

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Yeah, I don't think so.

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I mean, I think that'd be kind of a good thing.

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I understand what you're saying, too.

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I mean, it makes sense that there's a good candidate

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that moves down tomorrow.

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Or even if it's in town.

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Yeah, anybody, yeah.

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They couldn't do it, but now they can.

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Decided, yeah.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But we'll.

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We'll see.

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Yeah.

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It depends on how long it is from here to there.

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Yeah.

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Maybe a while.

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Okay, thank you.

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Are we all set?

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All gone? Any other questions?

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Nothing else.

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Offense mode.

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Mode target.

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All in favor.

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All in favor.

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All in favor.