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Let's call the meeting to order.

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I'm going to pound it.

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Okay, we're going to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Pledge of Allegiance.

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This is a signifying the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation, under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Offering committee will stand for the select board.

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If you have a matter to discuss that is not included

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in the agenda, you may just go by addressing the chairperson

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and stating your name and address.

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You'll notice that all armed meetings are recorded

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and this is to aid in the summarization of the minutes.

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Visitors are welcome and we allow five minutes

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of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic.

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Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner

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with respect to all others.

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Select board members present are...

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Mike Dittall.

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Nancy Brasheka.

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John Dunn.

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Ted Fairman.

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Kurt Lamar.

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Will there be any adding of items or removing items

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from tonight's agenda?

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I have additional access weight permits that have come in.

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Okay. Will there be any adjustments to the agenda

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such as changing the order of items?

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And Jed is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video.

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All right.

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Hearing of visitors.

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Sir, are you...

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Yeah.

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My name is Charlie Jewett.

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I live in Pownall.

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I'm a conservative Republican and I want to run

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for state assembly because our district is pretty conservative

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and we have a pretty liberal...

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I'm a fiscal conservative, I'm a social conservative,

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rapidly pro-second amendment.

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I own the Bennington Armory gun shop in Bennington.

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You look familiar.

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Yeah, you look familiar too.

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What are you running for, right?

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State assembly.

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Okay.

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And I need signatures.

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I could get some tonight.

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Would you want to do a selectors meeting here or?

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Man, you're not even making weight.

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Appreciate that.

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Yeah, it's just a meeting.

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You know, it's five minutes.

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Just to get on the agenda.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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On the ballot.

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So...

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Well, it's district one.

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So the town of Bennington is a separate district.

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Yeah.

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But we are in district one.

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I want to get the mix up like a couple of years ago.

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Yeah, that was a big issue.

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Where's the line go?

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On this side of the road or that side of the road?

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That could have changed the election, I think.

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Very close.

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Yeah, 20 votes.

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I sign everybody's who goes on the ballot

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because anybody wants to throw their hat in this rat race, go ahead.

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Yeah, I'm going to give you 20 years to have people willing to serve.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Hey, Bill.

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Did you see Adams, the paper about Adams Fire Department while we're signing this?

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No.

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So they have a, Massachusetts has a mandatory retirement age, 65.

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Oh.

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They're going to lose five firemen this year.

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Imagine that.

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And they're active.

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We could not sustain losing five of our 16 active firemen.

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Yeah, like that.

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I mean, we've got like 22 people on the list and that includes me and you know, I really-

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Yeah, you're not going to-

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Yeah, you're not going to- Yeah, you're not going to-

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Yeah, you're not going to-

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Yeah.

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You know, and the thing is, you can't just say, say you lost five and you say, okay,

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I got five kids coming up the ladder, I'm going to-

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You've got to train them.

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Yep.

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Nowadays, it takes almost a year to get them.

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You've got a year, year and a half.

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Yeah.

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Do you have anything else or we can go out with our meeting and-

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Please go on with your meeting.

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We'll watch for you.

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August.

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I appreciate that.

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Okay.

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Reading and approval of records and orders of March 19th.

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Motion to approve.

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Second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Okay, highway-

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Okay, highway-

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Highway update?

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So it's getting to that time of year so I think there's no,

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just when they can fit us in so it usually takes about a day.

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We've been getting the equipment, summer equipment, the grader and ready to go.

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We had an oil leak on the excavator.

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I wanted to take care of it, so that's pretty well fired at this point.

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I'm waiting for parts.

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I've also been working on an alternative product.

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It's a project for the East Road color structures grant we have with A&R and AOT.

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Does it look like it's, they're going to accept an alternative design?

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So the A&R gave me four different that meets the criteria of the state and then once we

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pick one, I've got to come up with a price so I've got a hold of some contractors because

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it's a pretty big job.

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And get some estimates on it and then ask AOT.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And then ask the AOT if it would still qualify for our grant, keep them happy.

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And on our street sweepers, I know they're going to do Brookside Drive this year.

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Are they going to sweep that first or do you have them sweep it after?

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Yeah, no, it'll get swept when they come around the regular sweeping and then more

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than likely again when they chip seal it and then have them chip seal it.

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So, it probably will get swept three times this year.

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Thank you so much.

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All right.

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Well, good luck.

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How many signatures do you need?

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I'm going to need, I think, 100.

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Oh, that's not bad.

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And that includes Pommel, too.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll get there.

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Good luck.

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Go to recycling up here on Sandy.

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Oh, really?

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Recycling Center is open.

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Sandy, soon it'll be open Wednesday and Sandy.

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I'm off on Wednesday.

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Does that sound good?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Sorry, Dave.

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Alternative plans, oil leak.

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Maintenance.

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That's just what it really is.

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We're out filling Pommel.

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In preparation for blacktopping, what does the town have to do to, like, the dirt section of Jefferson Road and the shore?

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I'll be talking more with the paving company where some of the ditches are at.

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I mean, for the most part, they're, you know, the reason, but if there's something, I feel.

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The grading's a big thing.

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You know, I guess historically, it's usually the second week in April.

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It'll, uh...

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Better or...

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Yeah, probably the third man this year and...

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I'll kind of get...

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I'd be able to paint the plows or, you know...

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Straighten up the garage.

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James was out washing the trucks the other day, you know, which, you know, may have a pen.

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Things like that that tend to get pushed aside, you know, I felt like I could take on this oil leak.

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You know, ditching, certainly running two trucks instead of one, it'll be a little bit faster.

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How did we survive this last rainstorm?

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It looked like Clarksburg.

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Had a lot of runoff from the roads.

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A lot of stones in the roads.

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Less roads, pretty much, yeah.

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Yeah, how about, uh...

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I mean, everything seems okay.

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I mean, they're obviously not graded yet, so you're going to have, you know, little trails down the road and whatnot.

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You can notice it more on your road, Jim.

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He's made my ditches, like, four feet deep, so everything just kind of goes down the side.

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Stay X on it.

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Stay X on it.

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Yeah, obviously.

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I think our road, we maintain our road, you know, so...

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Yeah.

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For the most part.

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I think they...

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What are you trying to say, Clarksburg?

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Not taking any shots.

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Yeah.

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You know, that's something that, you know, just an extra thing.

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You know, we talk and talk and talk about Klondike Road.

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Someday we really need to talk about it, because Clarksburg's West Road is getting to the point where it's just a matter of time that it's going to be gone.

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I mean, you look at it.

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You've been up there.

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You look at it, and it's just scary.

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I hate to say it, but there's going to be a time where we're going to...

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We're going to really have to...

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It's flat-out dangerous, and you've got to try and take a fire truck up there.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, we're taking our comm trucks up there, and you're right.

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It's a rough road, and it's...

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It's steep.

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It's real steep.

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Yeah.

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It's hard to keep control.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's something to think about.

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The service from Casala is...

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They are.

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They're expensive.

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Unfortunately, the price is...

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Can they come into Vermont and haul it out, Vermont?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Is there anything about that?

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They haul it in to Casala's facility, so Casala knows the price.

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That's part of it.

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They can't control what they're charged.

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Yeah.

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You know, and then they know what their cost is to haul it, so Casala's a huge, huge business.

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Yeah.

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You know, they're...

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I just...

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I used them down the shop, and I called them.

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They went off, and I said, I'm going to start looking for someone else.

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They said, well, wait a minute.

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They were all saying...

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And they came back with a lower price than my share.

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Yeah.

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So we'll give you a...

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I guess you just got to complain.

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The haul fee itself was quite a...

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Yeah.

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Quite a...

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Do you think at some point, why is it for the town?

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I know it's another expense, but maybe it's something the town should look at, and getting

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a truck to do that ourselves?

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I mean, I mentioned that, I think, in the fall.

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I'm a painter, so...

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But the other two we own, we can have whatever we want hauled.

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I know that we would end up saving money.

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Where would they have to haul it to?

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Just Bennington?

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Yeah.

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Just goes to Bennington.

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I mean, owned by Casala.

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Yeah.

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So you're going to pay there.

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So there are some, I want to say...

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I'm guessing a few...

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Anything else?

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No.

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I can't.

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But it's about once a month for the four yard.

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I'd say it's five, six times a year for the dump truck.

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Could you utilize the older one ton, and instead of doing a monthly, do a weekly trip to Bennington?

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It's not big enough of a truck.

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No, I'm saying just back the truck over, throw the stuff in the dump truck, and then on Monday,

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take a ride to Bennington.

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00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:45,419
Instead of the monthly pickup, you'd be doing it a weekly drive, and it'd be a nice thing.

266
00:15:45,419 --> 00:15:46,879
I haven't really thought about that.

267
00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:52,100
It's the best day to do something.

268
00:15:52,100 --> 00:16:00,870
I guess, like Wednesdays were open, so realistically, you need to do it, because you can't...

269
00:16:00,870 --> 00:16:37,889
A lot of trash.

270
00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,480
Couldn't say, because I didn't know...

271
00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,340
They had those.

272
00:16:52,539 --> 00:17:34,940
Hauling bits, it's getting that time of year.

273
00:17:36,809 --> 00:17:38,809
Do we want to put it out to bid?

274
00:17:39,009 --> 00:17:41,480
Do we have...

275
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,980
Did we get any bidders last year?

276
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:12,789
Is that how it costs us that much?

277
00:18:13,069 --> 00:18:13,609
Is that enough?

278
00:18:14,089 --> 00:18:14,309
I mean...

279
00:18:14,329 --> 00:18:19,059
The numbers are so fair, I guess.

280
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,559
I wasn't going to say low, but fair.

281
00:18:21,339 --> 00:18:28,430
You know, I know that some people might look at it as, well, you're better because of the

282
00:18:28,430 --> 00:18:35,799
conflict of interest, but on the other hand is, John does a good job, reasonable, and

283
00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:43,559
he's a Stanford resident for the rest of the board.

284
00:18:43,619 --> 00:18:49,819
Yeah, I'd like to look at the bid again, because along the fence line over there, from there

285
00:18:49,819 --> 00:18:53,940
down to the black fence, there's a lot of brush that's down.

286
00:18:53,940 --> 00:18:58,839
And stuff that's growing into the fence, if that could be cleaned up, and I'm not even

287
00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:03,740
sure about that fence line over there, I haven't looked at that one, but could we put that

288
00:19:03,740 --> 00:19:05,099
into the bid also?

289
00:19:05,779 --> 00:19:09,730
Clean up, and whoever gets this...

290
00:19:09,730 --> 00:19:11,250
The more you put in, the more it costs.

291
00:19:11,549 --> 00:19:12,069
Oh, I know.

292
00:19:12,309 --> 00:19:12,970
The more it costs.

293
00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:18,940
Unless, Dave, unless you guys want to come down one day, three of you one day, clean

294
00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:19,579
it all up.

295
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,599
That's another thought, too.

296
00:19:22,059 --> 00:19:22,839
It is what it is.

297
00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:24,680
I'm not against it, but...

298
00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:33,890
It makes sense when you do the roadside mowing to come down and to hit it real quick, you

299
00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:34,069
know?

300
00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:35,269
We have done that.

301
00:19:39,869 --> 00:19:41,609
Go right along the fence line with...

302
00:19:41,609 --> 00:19:42,150
We have done that.

303
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,059
Because there's like...

304
00:19:44,059 --> 00:19:45,740
What's it a one day thing, or...

305
00:19:45,740 --> 00:19:48,079
Yeah, that just works into it.

306
00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:55,509
Do you know where, like, the fence line is?

307
00:19:55,509 --> 00:19:59,970
Well, we did a little walk last year during the summertime, they had somebody go in there,

308
00:20:00,069 --> 00:20:05,130
it was a tree company, and they cleaned for the wires, right?

309
00:20:05,130 --> 00:20:09,299
And they went through, they were, like, on the other side of the fence, like, five, ten

310
00:20:09,299 --> 00:20:10,779
feet, they went back and really whacked.

311
00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:11,799
They got...

312
00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:12,799
They hired them all.

313
00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:13,799
Where was that done?

314
00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:16,799
Along that whole side of the fence line over there.

315
00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:18,799
When they had the cable, they were replacing...

316
00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:21,339
Yeah.

317
00:20:21,339 --> 00:20:26,339
Are you talking about just a spring cleanup, or are you talking about mowing, weed whacking

318
00:20:26,339 --> 00:20:28,339
all summer and keeping it clean?

319
00:20:28,339 --> 00:20:29,339
No, a spring cleanup.

320
00:20:29,339 --> 00:20:30,339
When they're...

321
00:20:30,339 --> 00:20:34,339
Because they're going to have to start now bringing the sod back, where you plow the

322
00:20:34,339 --> 00:20:36,339
stuff up, out on the lawn.

323
00:20:36,339 --> 00:20:37,339
So you did that?

324
00:20:37,339 --> 00:20:40,339
Yeah, I did the front lawn.

325
00:20:40,339 --> 00:20:42,390
I don't know if that's on day...

326
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:43,390
I know.

327
00:20:43,390 --> 00:20:44,390
...and then Dave...

328
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:45,390
He probably doesn't have time for it.

329
00:20:45,390 --> 00:20:46,390
It could be a bit of a chore to call them trees all the time.

330
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:47,390
...replacing the sod and...

331
00:20:47,390 --> 00:20:48,390
I know.

332
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:49,390
...you guys are growing through.

333
00:20:49,390 --> 00:20:50,390
Yeah.

334
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:51,390
It's not, I mean, it's not hard, but it's a pain in the butt.

335
00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:52,390
I know.

336
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:53,390
It just looks...

337
00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:54,390
It's hard off the top of my head.

338
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:55,869
I think it was, like, 500 or, I think that was $500 to do all the cleanup last year.

339
00:20:55,869 --> 00:20:56,869
That was the ditch.

340
00:20:56,869 --> 00:20:57,869
Yep.

341
00:20:57,869 --> 00:20:58,869
And then...

342
00:20:58,869 --> 00:21:00,059
Yep.

343
00:21:00,059 --> 00:21:01,059
Well, if we're going to send it out to bed, I don't really want you to discuss price.

344
00:21:01,059 --> 00:21:02,259
Don't say, no, don't say no.

345
00:21:02,259 --> 00:21:03,259
Yeah.

346
00:21:03,259 --> 00:21:04,259
Yeah.

347
00:21:04,259 --> 00:21:05,259
Yeah.

348
00:21:05,259 --> 00:21:06,259
Yeah.

349
00:21:06,259 --> 00:21:07,640
Yeah.

350
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,809
Because it's not fair to you.

351
00:21:11,809 --> 00:21:18,059
You know?

352
00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:19,059
Because then people will say, oh, he's, John's going up $50.

353
00:21:19,059 --> 00:21:20,059
I'm going up $45.

354
00:21:20,059 --> 00:21:21,059
You know?

355
00:21:21,059 --> 00:21:22,059
Yeah.

356
00:21:22,059 --> 00:21:23,059
But, personally, if we're just going to do the same as what we did last year...

357
00:21:23,059 --> 00:21:24,059
Yeah.

358
00:21:24,059 --> 00:21:25,059
...and John's going to go up, you know, what percentage, I wouldn't really...

359
00:21:25,059 --> 00:21:26,119
The ditch here, that...

360
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,119
This time of year, especially, if I'm not out there, say, Grady's growing when I should

361
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,119
be...

362
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,119
Yeah.

363
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,119
...I'm not going to be out there.

364
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,119
Yeah.

365
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,119
Yeah.

366
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,119
Yeah.

367
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,119
Yeah.

368
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,119
Yeah.

369
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,119
Yeah.

370
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,119
Yeah.

371
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,119
Yeah.

372
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,759
Yeah.

373
00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:40,759
Yeah.

374
00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:43,809
Yeah.

375
00:21:43,809 --> 00:21:55,430
Yeah.

376
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:56,430
Yeah.

377
00:21:56,430 --> 00:21:57,430
Yeah.

378
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:58,430
Yeah.

379
00:21:58,430 --> 00:21:59,430
Yeah.

380
00:21:59,430 --> 00:22:00,430
Yeah.

381
00:22:00,430 --> 00:22:01,430
Yeah.

382
00:22:01,430 --> 00:22:02,430
Yeah.

383
00:22:02,430 --> 00:22:03,430
Yeah.

384
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:04,430
Yeah.

385
00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:05,430
Yeah.

386
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:06,430
Yeah.

387
00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:07,430
Yeah.

388
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:08,430
Yeah.

389
00:22:08,430 --> 00:22:09,910
Yeah.

390
00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:10,910
Yeah.

391
00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:12,940
Yeah.

392
00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:13,940
Yeah.

393
00:22:13,940 --> 00:22:16,410
Yeah.

394
00:22:16,410 --> 00:22:17,410
Yeah.

395
00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:18,730
Yeah.

396
00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:19,730
Yeah.

397
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:20,730
Yeah.

398
00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:22,140
Yeah.

399
00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:23,140
Yeah.

400
00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:24,140
Yeah.

401
00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:25,140
Yeah.

402
00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:26,140
Yeah.

403
00:22:26,140 --> 00:22:27,140
Yeah.

404
00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:28,140
Yeah.

405
00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:29,529
Yeah.

406
00:22:29,529 --> 00:22:39,329
Yeah.

407
00:22:39,329 --> 00:22:40,329
Yeah.

408
00:22:40,329 --> 00:22:41,619
Yeah.

409
00:22:41,619 --> 00:22:46,619
What was in here last year was remove debris from ditch along fence on northern line of property.

410
00:22:46,619 --> 00:22:53,619
We didn't say anything about cleaning between the ditch and the fence or cleaning the fence out over there.

411
00:22:53,619 --> 00:22:57,619
I just thought it would look neater, but we don't want it neat.

412
00:22:57,619 --> 00:23:00,619
And there's other spots around the school that need cleaning too.

413
00:23:00,619 --> 00:23:04,619
I don't understand that ditch anyways. I don't know if there's a pipe or a culvert.

414
00:23:04,619 --> 00:23:06,619
I don't know where it comes out of.

415
00:23:06,619 --> 00:23:08,619
There used to be a culvert on the other side of that.

416
00:23:08,619 --> 00:23:15,619
I talked to the state guy down there and he said they're supposed to be cleaning these out and they're in the same boat.

417
00:23:15,619 --> 00:23:21,619
And then every other ditch that they had, they took the culverts out.

418
00:23:21,619 --> 00:23:26,619
There used to be a drain at the bottom on the other side.

419
00:23:26,619 --> 00:23:29,619
So those are all supposed to be maintained.

420
00:23:29,619 --> 00:23:34,619
These ditches, that one right by where the state guy lives, Russ, is all backed up.

421
00:23:34,619 --> 00:23:36,619
It needs to be cleaned up.

422
00:23:36,619 --> 00:23:38,619
I mean I got a culvert in there.

423
00:23:38,619 --> 00:23:42,619
It drains from the old general store across.

424
00:23:42,619 --> 00:23:45,619
It goes into the ditch into a manhole on the house across the street.

425
00:23:45,619 --> 00:23:47,619
And it comes out in the culvert in my yard.

426
00:23:47,619 --> 00:23:50,619
But the culvert is the only one.

427
00:23:50,619 --> 00:23:54,619
Do I need to get a permit to clean this out?

428
00:23:54,619 --> 00:23:57,619
Luckily there's not like a lot of water.

429
00:23:57,619 --> 00:24:00,619
It just goes right to the parking lot.

430
00:24:00,619 --> 00:24:02,619
Where is the culvert? On that side of the road?

431
00:24:02,619 --> 00:24:04,619
There used to be. I don't know. It just got taken away.

432
00:24:04,619 --> 00:24:06,619
That's what happens.

433
00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:07,619
There was one there when I was a kid.

434
00:24:07,619 --> 00:24:08,619
It's still there?

435
00:24:08,619 --> 00:24:09,619
Yeah.

436
00:24:09,619 --> 00:24:11,619
Some are gone, some are there.

437
00:24:11,619 --> 00:24:15,619
The state will only go that 25 feet from the center out.

438
00:24:15,619 --> 00:24:18,619
They're not going to come down through all the way to the river.

439
00:24:18,619 --> 00:24:19,619
I mean they realistically should.

440
00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:23,619
I mean they should maintain their drainage but they put it on the property on there.

441
00:24:23,619 --> 00:24:26,619
But then you have to follow their rules.

442
00:24:26,619 --> 00:24:27,970
Right.

443
00:24:27,970 --> 00:24:31,970
Just like when they went in the river up there by Lincoln Road.

444
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:33,970
They have no problem jumping in there.

445
00:24:33,970 --> 00:24:37,970
I mean there's only what, eight inch culverts running over that, underneath that road.

446
00:24:38,970 --> 00:24:41,970
So what do we want to do with the lawn bid?

447
00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:48,970
Do we want to clean the fence on both sides of the property, leave that out, let Dave do it, put it in the bid?

448
00:24:48,970 --> 00:24:51,970
If we want to send it out to bid.

449
00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:52,970
You could do it both ways.

450
00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:53,970
Yeah, I would separate it.

451
00:24:53,970 --> 00:25:02,059
I would say what we had for a bid last year and then separate this extra work and see what that comes.

452
00:25:02,059 --> 00:25:06,180
And then if that extra work costs $10,000 we'll have Dave do it.

453
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:07,180
Yeah.

454
00:25:07,180 --> 00:25:08,220
Okay.

455
00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:17,380
So we'll move debris from ditch along fence on the northern and southern line of property fence on both sides.

456
00:25:17,380 --> 00:25:21,859
And it's just to the black fence, not on the schoolyard.

457
00:25:21,859 --> 00:25:26,839
Put two sections.

458
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:41,430
Now do we want to revamp this or just give it to John and save our time and mailing?

459
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:42,430
You made a bid already.

460
00:25:42,430 --> 00:25:45,420
I'll give it to John.

461
00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:49,529
Give us a number back.

462
00:25:49,529 --> 00:25:54,660
I'll give you numbers but I don't know what the rules are legal wise if you're supposed to.

463
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:56,660
Obtain some bids or whatever.

464
00:25:56,660 --> 00:25:57,660
We don't have to.

465
00:25:57,660 --> 00:26:00,609
We don't have to do bids.

466
00:26:00,609 --> 00:26:01,609
No.

467
00:26:01,609 --> 00:26:02,609
You don't have to do bids, right Dave?

468
00:26:02,609 --> 00:26:04,180
No.

469
00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:09,890
Under a certain amount?

470
00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:10,890
The numbers are too high.

471
00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:14,420
It's already, it already happens in a number.

472
00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:19,869
I'm looking at $200 to about that to mow that lawn out there.

473
00:26:19,869 --> 00:26:24,319
I know for a fact that my pro-law's got a piece of land more than that.

474
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:26,319
It's less than an acre.

475
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,259
Raise your price.

476
00:26:30,259 --> 00:26:31,259
I'm just saying.

477
00:26:31,259 --> 00:26:32,259
I'm just trying to.

478
00:26:32,259 --> 00:26:33,259
Don't listen to this guy.

479
00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:34,259
I'm just trying to.

480
00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:35,259
His numbers are fair.

481
00:26:35,259 --> 00:26:36,259
Get the town a service.

482
00:26:36,259 --> 00:26:37,259
At a reasonable cost.

483
00:26:37,259 --> 00:26:38,259
Right.

484
00:26:38,259 --> 00:26:39,259
I'm trying to keep the overhead low.

485
00:26:39,259 --> 00:26:40,259
And that's what I mean.

486
00:26:40,259 --> 00:26:41,259
This is where you go back Kurt saying.

487
00:26:41,259 --> 00:26:42,259
Got a guy that lives in the town, cares about the town.

488
00:26:42,259 --> 00:26:43,259
Yep.

489
00:26:43,259 --> 00:26:44,259
So that's your motion?

490
00:26:44,259 --> 00:26:45,259
All right.

491
00:26:45,259 --> 00:26:46,259
What is the motion?

492
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:47,259
I have two, two separate descriptions in here in the lawn mowing bid.

493
00:26:47,259 --> 00:26:48,259
And.

494
00:26:48,259 --> 00:26:49,259
Give it to.

495
00:26:49,259 --> 00:26:51,900
So we'll see how bad the.

496
00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,059
Give it to John.

497
00:26:53,059 --> 00:26:54,059
You think about it though.

498
00:26:54,059 --> 00:26:55,059
You know everything has to get done.

499
00:26:55,059 --> 00:26:56,059
Put things off.

500
00:26:56,059 --> 00:26:57,759
Talk to you about this in.

501
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:58,759
Nancy and I just interject something.

502
00:26:58,759 --> 00:26:59,759
You know.

503
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:00,759
You know.

504
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:18,500
You know.

505
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:19,500
You know.

506
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:22,000
You know.

507
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:31,740
You know.

508
00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:32,740
You know.

509
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:35,500
You know.

510
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:36,500
You know.

511
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:37,500
You know.

512
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:38,500
I could just briefly.

513
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:39,500
If you're not going to request bids.

514
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:43,720
You might want to phrase it as requesting a quote.

515
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,349
A quote rather than.

516
00:27:46,349 --> 00:27:50,549
Quiting putting out for bid if you're not going to put it out.

517
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:51,549
Right.

518
00:27:51,549 --> 00:27:52,549
Just a quote, let's see where we're at.

519
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:53,549
Yes request a quote.

520
00:27:53,549 --> 00:28:00,819
Yes.

521
00:28:00,819 --> 00:28:01,819
And everything else will be the same.

522
00:28:01,819 --> 00:28:02,819
I'll have Lori get that for you and email it to you John.

523
00:28:02,819 --> 00:28:11,380
Sure.

524
00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:12,720
Okay, anything else under discussion?

525
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,720
Correspondence.

526
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:22,369
Sign uniform.

527
00:28:22,369 --> 00:28:26,609
It says, municipal excess weight Aah-kay.

528
00:28:26,609 --> 00:28:28,289
We're up trucking and it looks like you've got a couple more.

529
00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:29,289
della Mallana.

530
00:28:29,289 --> 00:28:40,190
Consolidated communication, camp precast, and a new one, QXO8, from Indiana.

531
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:43,190
Maybe we're doing better now than we...

532
00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:47,190
I got a question for you, back to quick on the roads.

533
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:50,190
You stopped the logging trucks from going off and down.

534
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:52,190
Do you have a sign at the moment?

535
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:59,190
If someone wanted to get a delivered log truck up there, you know, just delivered wood,

536
00:28:59,190 --> 00:29:01,190
can they do it or do they have to wait?

537
00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:02,190
Right now?

538
00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:03,960
Yeah.

539
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,339
They can't do it.

540
00:29:05,339 --> 00:29:06,339
The roads.

541
00:29:06,339 --> 00:29:13,970
They want to get them.

542
00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:14,970
The log trucks go up today.

543
00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:15,970
Yeah, three of them.

544
00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:16,970
You were calling today?

545
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:19,730
They called me today.

546
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:33,049
Right.

547
00:29:33,049 --> 00:29:43,420
No, they're...

548
00:29:43,420 --> 00:30:12,519
Excess weight permit.

549
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:13,519
One-one numbers displayed.

550
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:19,849
So, hand them out to you guys, yeah.

551
00:30:19,849 --> 00:30:24,849
But do you want me to put names next to them and you guys, if they're your friends or your

552
00:30:24,849 --> 00:30:28,849
relatives, want to say, hey, get that up before we send you a letter or how do you want to

553
00:30:28,849 --> 00:30:29,849
do this?

554
00:30:29,849 --> 00:30:51,420
Okay, 620 residents in town, oblivious to what goes on here in this road.

555
00:30:51,420 --> 00:30:59,740
How do we, how do we, how do we outreach to the people that...

556
00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:06,150
It's been a long time, John, but several years back we went through and called these people

557
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:07,380
twice.

558
00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:15,380
We had a form letter we put together and differentiated between there was no number or half of your

559
00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:21,380
number has fallen off or your number is back 20, you know, 100 feet from the road so it's

560
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:22,380
got to be put out by the driveway.

561
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:23,380
Right.

562
00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:24,380
And we got minimal...

563
00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:25,380
Yeah.

564
00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:26,380
...response to it.

565
00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:27,380
So...

566
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:29,240
We've done better this past three months or so...

567
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,240
Could we...

568
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,240
With requests...

569
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,240
...ask Paul Dupuis to post on an all-formed...

570
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,240
Sure.

571
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,240
...Hanks on at Billmont...

572
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Mm-hmm.

573
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,240
...and maybe Fort Warren people, like if it's...

574
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,240
Letters are coming.

575
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:53,579
Well, I don't know if it's worth us wasting the postage on a letter, but isn't there a

576
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:54,579
fine that's involved?

577
00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:57,000
There isn't a lot, but there is.

578
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000
But there is.

579
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000
It's not even worth the paperwork and...

580
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000
What do we...

581
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,420
Is that the ticket one?

582
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:02,420
So it's like a $15 donation to the fire department, right?

583
00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:03,420
And you get a sign.

584
00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:04,420
And they just put it up?

585
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:05,420
You don't have to go through the fire department, but it's...

586
00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:06,420
$16, the fire department will do one.

587
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:07,420
Yes.

588
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:08,420
You can do your own as long as you meet the letter size and reflective background.

589
00:32:08,420 --> 00:32:09,420
But is there any way...

590
00:32:09,420 --> 00:32:10,900
It's terrible.

591
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:11,900
...double-debt, you're giving a donation to the fire department.

592
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:12,900
It's terrible.

593
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:13,900
It's terrible.

594
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:14,900
It's terrible.

595
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:15,900
It's terrible.

596
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:16,900
It's terrible.

597
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:17,900
It's terrible.

598
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:18,900
It's terrible.

599
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:19,900
It's terrible.

600
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:20,900
It's terrible.

601
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:21,900
It's terrible.

602
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:27,180
It's terrible.

603
00:32:27,180 --> 00:32:28,180
It's terrible.

604
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:29,180
It's terrible.

605
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:30,180
It's terrible.

606
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:31,180
It's terrible.

607
00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:33,109
Is there any way we could just do the sign?

608
00:32:33,109 --> 00:32:39,109
Have the fire department do it and then implement it into say their taxes to get the money

609
00:32:39,109 --> 00:32:42,380
back?

610
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:43,380
No, we tried it with something else or...

611
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:48,769
One point you talked about doing 6x6 posts, engraving them, going out and planting them

612
00:32:48,769 --> 00:33:02,099
at the end of the driveway and say, did we charge somebody or we informally did it for

613
00:33:02,099 --> 00:33:03,099
every house.

614
00:33:03,099 --> 00:33:04,099
There's some residences in towns that they're mailed to...

615
00:33:04,099 --> 00:33:05,099
No, you have to do the paperwork.

616
00:33:05,099 --> 00:33:06,099
...you have to do the paperwork.

617
00:33:06,099 --> 00:33:11,559
mailbox isn't even at the at their house right so like the bottom of county or mill right there's

618
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:18,920
like a stretch of mailboxes so it's no it says either on your house visible or at the front of

619
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,109
your driveway you have a little bit of difficulty of putting it at the end of the driveway so that

620
00:33:24,109 --> 00:33:30,960
it doesn't get hit by a snowplow but it's kind of clear and there are some people that you know

621
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:47,819
yeah you try to sell the idea whether it's you or some relative come a fire in the middle names

622
00:33:47,819 --> 00:33:57,380
with these 86 83 I'll put names with them email to you guys see if there's anybody on there that

623
00:33:57,380 --> 00:34:06,160
you want to tell yourself send me mine I already know is it worth knocking on the door and saying

624
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,360
here we're here on behalf of the

625
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:21,179
fire department slash 9-1-1 whatever and you're not capable to do it ourselves and all we asked

626
00:34:21,179 --> 00:34:30,179
for is a $20 donation for the fire department and you'd have like a volunteer me must be they

627
00:34:30,179 --> 00:34:43,920
missed you Dave Brown a six pack of beer and some 9-1-1s on Friday night I think you could put it on a t-post and drive it very quickly if you decide where it's

628
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:43,960
going

629
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:58,079
because the next thing is the dog list that's another issue we can't get on the

630
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:15,579
register of dogs and here we are trying to get them to put signs up well that's all we can do is say put the sign up I like how Bill said because the fire department can't find you the ambulance can't find you and there you go until they find you in the spring don't kill us for not coming but we can't find you

631
00:35:15,579 --> 00:35:17,539
well that's the thing we've had

632
00:35:17,539 --> 00:35:31,599
it's years since I've been out driving on a call but I have it happen when we have had people come back in the last year or so drive right past the house it was a burn inside

633
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:36,719
the house it was nothing obvious on the outside nobody bothered to come out and try to wave us down

634
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:45,539
I deal with it with delivering the fire department I can't where is this place you know and you can't go by the GPS because it takes me to the wrong house

635
00:35:45,539 --> 00:35:47,519
go on the snowmobile trail or something it's just hard to do it okay where are you going where are you going where are you going the fire department can't help you

636
00:35:47,539 --> 00:35:53,530
Now it's difficult if people don't want to cooperate.

637
00:35:53,530 --> 00:36:07,019
You're basically black and you can't see it.

638
00:36:07,019 --> 00:36:17,340
Well I know I'm not, I don't have a sign and I keep forgetting about it.

639
00:36:17,340 --> 00:36:21,559
No, I think it really falls on them.

640
00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:28,559
Just like you said, if you don't care, do diligence to say come on guys.

641
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:33,559
And then if there is a problem, you know, we've done our best.

642
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:34,559
We can't feel bad.

643
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:38,559
I mean this has been on the agenda for a lot of meetings or something.

644
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:42,559
He's got the list for us so now we'll follow through.

645
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,559
I have the sign, it's under the front seat of my truck.

646
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:46,559
It's been sitting here since I got it.

647
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:48,559
Yeah, I got that.

648
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:51,559
You can't move the house and it's blowing all the wood off.

649
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,559
I tore the mailbox down.

650
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,559
That's where I was going to put it.

651
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:55,559
I've got to do both.

652
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:56,559
I'll do names.

653
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:59,559
Send them to you and we'll discuss it next meeting on what we're going to do.

654
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,559
Get them all up and then the state will change all the numbers.

655
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:03,559
Better not.

656
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:05,559
Maybe Lori can pull up the phone.

657
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:06,559
Yes.

658
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:08,559
I was going to say, you guys have money in your budget.

659
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,559
If you dwindle it down with the people you know, it won't be that hard.

660
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:13,559
Post something.

661
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,559
Let's give it a little time.

662
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:16,559
Get the names.

663
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:19,559
Have Paul put something on, Stanford informed.

664
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:23,559
Is there a bulletin board at the dump where you can hang stuff or no?

665
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:24,559
Yeah.

666
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,559
We made up signs for houses.

667
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:35,150
You know, the fire department makes 50 cents on the $16.

668
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:50,869
If you made up all 80 signs and you went out with T-posts and put them there, it will

669
00:37:50,869 --> 00:37:51,869
make them back a bit better.

670
00:37:51,869 --> 00:37:52,869
Yeah, I know.

671
00:37:52,869 --> 00:37:53,869
It'll make unhappy people.

672
00:37:53,869 --> 00:37:54,869
It'll make unhappy people.

673
00:37:54,869 --> 00:37:55,869
Then mine fell down the next day and I, how come they didn't come and put mine?

674
00:37:55,869 --> 00:37:56,869
I mean, I've always been, you know, like I said before, I feel bad for the first responders

675
00:37:56,869 --> 00:37:57,869
that have to go to those things, but if they don't have to sign, they don't have to sign.

676
00:37:57,869 --> 00:37:59,699
Well, I think they have to sign.

677
00:37:59,699 --> 00:38:00,699
They have to sign.

678
00:38:00,699 --> 00:38:02,019
They have to sign.

679
00:38:02,019 --> 00:38:03,019
They have to sign.

680
00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:04,019
They have to sign.

681
00:38:04,019 --> 00:38:05,019
They have to sign.

682
00:38:05,019 --> 00:38:06,019
They have to sign.

683
00:38:06,019 --> 00:38:07,019
They have to sign.

684
00:38:07,019 --> 00:38:10,039
They have to sign.

685
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:11,039
They have to sign.

686
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:17,550
And then, you know, I think we gotta avoid, you know, this whole way of life...

687
00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:18,579
Well, we could...

688
00:38:18,579 --> 00:38:19,619
It's to the point where...

689
00:38:19,619 --> 00:38:38,300
We could put the write-up recycling center without the names, and people could look

690
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:39,300
at...

691
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:46,780
Well, they won't know that they need four-inch letters...

692
00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:51,059
Maybe you can have a little pocket...

693
00:38:51,059 --> 00:38:52,059
You just say...

694
00:38:52,059 --> 00:39:00,050
You can pick if you want it to go horizontally or vertically, one-sided or two-sided, right?

695
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:05,050
Yeah, like I said, how many people don't...

696
00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:08,050
We've got some made-up display sizes.

697
00:39:08,050 --> 00:39:13,369
This is even going on, and we've talked about it half a dozen times.

698
00:39:13,369 --> 00:39:18,539
We've got more exposure than we ever have.

699
00:39:18,539 --> 00:39:21,789
Can you put it on the front door?

700
00:39:21,789 --> 00:39:29,340
Do people visit your site? Can you tell?

701
00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:31,340
Yeah.

702
00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:35,340
You'd be surprised at some of the numbers.

703
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:37,340
I've seen well over 100.

704
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:43,670
I had one that was just under 1,000.

705
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:48,739
But on a normal day, it's probably about 50 to 60.

706
00:39:48,739 --> 00:39:49,739
Really?

707
00:39:49,739 --> 00:39:51,739
Way more than the three that are here.

708
00:39:51,739 --> 00:39:53,739
Can we put it on the signboard outside?

709
00:39:53,739 --> 00:39:55,739
Do you have your house number yet?

710
00:39:55,739 --> 00:39:58,380
No, we don't use that sign.

711
00:39:58,380 --> 00:39:59,380
We don't use that.

712
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:01,559
We don't use the signboard.

713
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:05,380
On the phone box out there?

714
00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:07,380
On the phone company box.

715
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:15,340
No, we just don't use it.

716
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:16,340
Could we all?

717
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:17,340
Because if we put that up and not...

718
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:19,429
I thought you were going to bring us...

719
00:40:19,429 --> 00:40:21,429
No, no, I'm not saying that word, so...

720
00:40:21,429 --> 00:40:25,429
Do you know those little temporary fold-out signs that the school uses?

721
00:40:25,429 --> 00:40:26,429
Stop saying signs.

722
00:40:26,429 --> 00:40:32,530
Could we implement one of them for a day or two and put it right out there next to the town sign?

723
00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:35,010
Let's see the town sign.

724
00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:37,010
Got your 911 sign yet?

725
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:38,010
Are you sure you're...

726
00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:40,010
C-warrior, town office.

727
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:42,010
Woodville down to 74.

728
00:40:42,010 --> 00:40:43,010
Okay.

729
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:44,420
62.

730
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:45,420
You want to vote at town meeting?

731
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:46,420
Bring a picture of your number.

732
00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:47,420
Thank you.

733
00:40:47,420 --> 00:40:48,420
We'll never give it to zero.

734
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:49,420
Okay.

735
00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:51,829
Moving on.

736
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:53,829
New business or any other old business?

737
00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:54,829
Immoral business.

738
00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:55,829
Immoral business.

739
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:56,829
Yeah, I talked to Rodney Holland.

740
00:40:56,829 --> 00:40:59,829
I guess he's the head of the maintenance for the school.

741
00:40:59,829 --> 00:41:00,829
Yep.

742
00:41:00,829 --> 00:41:01,829
Nothing new to report really.

743
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:02,829
He said he pressure tested the well.

744
00:41:02,829 --> 00:41:07,900
There is no report because he did it by himself.

745
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:08,900
He thinks it's run off from the school roof.

746
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:09,900
In the parking lot.

747
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:10,900
And he suggested something new.

748
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,469
Okay.

749
00:41:12,469 --> 00:41:16,420
You're right.

750
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:47,880
Well.

751
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,880
Something is...

752
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,570
I think it's run off from the...

753
00:41:56,570 --> 00:42:01,119
Absolutely not.

754
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,099
It's dry.

755
00:42:04,099 --> 00:42:07,889
I mean, the roof has been the same as it's been for a long time.

756
00:42:07,889 --> 00:42:08,920
Right.

757
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,530
We've had before this one and the mud would dry up.

758
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:13,739
So...

759
00:42:13,739 --> 00:42:14,739
Yeah.

760
00:42:14,739 --> 00:42:15,739
You know, especially when it was that cold and windy.

761
00:42:15,739 --> 00:42:16,739
It would dry up.

762
00:42:16,739 --> 00:42:17,739
Not only dry up, it frees over.

763
00:42:17,739 --> 00:42:19,539
Yeah.

764
00:42:19,539 --> 00:42:20,539
This year, it's never...

765
00:42:20,539 --> 00:42:21,539
I don't know.

766
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:22,539
I don't know.

767
00:42:22,539 --> 00:42:23,539
I don't know.

768
00:42:23,539 --> 00:42:24,539
I don't know.

769
00:42:24,539 --> 00:42:25,539
I don't know.

770
00:42:25,539 --> 00:42:26,539
I don't know.

771
00:42:26,539 --> 00:42:27,539
I don't know.

772
00:42:27,539 --> 00:42:28,539
I don't know.

773
00:42:28,539 --> 00:42:29,539
I don't know.

774
00:42:29,539 --> 00:42:30,539
I don't know.

775
00:42:30,539 --> 00:42:31,539
I don't know.

776
00:42:31,539 --> 00:42:32,539
It's just...

777
00:42:32,539 --> 00:42:33,539
I don't know.

778
00:42:33,539 --> 00:42:34,539
I don't know.

779
00:42:34,539 --> 00:42:35,539
I don't know.

780
00:42:35,539 --> 00:42:36,539
I don't know.

781
00:42:36,539 --> 00:42:37,539
The water seems to find it's own way.

782
00:42:37,539 --> 00:42:38,539
And you have a leak here.

783
00:42:38,539 --> 00:42:39,539
Yeah.

784
00:42:39,539 --> 00:42:40,539
I mentioned the leak in the office.

785
00:42:40,539 --> 00:42:41,539
And we looked...

786
00:42:41,539 --> 00:42:43,539
So, I had shot a laser to see about putting in, you know, like in the ground because

787
00:42:43,539 --> 00:42:44,539
it's really not feasible.

788
00:42:44,539 --> 00:42:45,539
I mean, you have to run.

789
00:42:45,539 --> 00:42:46,539
You have to dig a ditch all the way down.

790
00:42:46,539 --> 00:42:47,860
Right through the Blacktop.

791
00:42:47,860 --> 00:42:49,139
To the river.

792
00:42:49,139 --> 00:42:50,139
And, you know, we'd be digging up the...

793
00:42:50,139 --> 00:42:55,179
When you get in the ground, we're not going to put it deep enough for it not to freeze.

794
00:42:55,179 --> 00:43:09,880
All the way down to the Brook, you're going to leak.

795
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Only the River.

796
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,380
Yeah.

797
00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:15,500
you know out of the parking lot with pipe and then you got to have an open

798
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:18,440
ditch which the kids are probably you know there'll be some issue with that so

799
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,579
you really need to run the pipe all the way down there and then you're probably

800
00:43:21,579 --> 00:43:25,769
going to get sediment and so then you're gonna be here with a bag truck or

801
00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:29,929
somebody in the fire department trying to flush it out you know it's just you

802
00:43:29,929 --> 00:43:34,820
think you're fixing a problem and you're creating two more so walk around the

803
00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:43,539
problem. I don't know what to say. It's kind of we can't find what the source is then i don't know.

804
00:43:43,539 --> 00:43:50,539
It fixes something by changing parts. Diagnosis works.

805
00:43:50,539 --> 00:43:54,210
So what do we want to do? We want to have it come down.

806
00:43:54,210 --> 00:44:05,960
Yeah.

807
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,559
Me and what are you going to do with it?

808
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:11,559
He said he'd be more happy to come down and take a look around with us.

809
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:13,559
He's going to point out options or whatever.

810
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:17,630
I mean he's going to have to do it before it gets dark so.

811
00:44:17,630 --> 00:44:18,849
Great.

812
00:44:18,849 --> 00:44:18,969
If he wants to come before we come down.

813
00:44:19,469 --> 00:44:28,699
meeting Thursday night at 530. Let us know, we can meet with him and then come in.

814
00:44:28,699 --> 00:44:36,579
It seems to me like we've got here, but you know we hire somebody to maintain the school,

815
00:44:36,579 --> 00:44:40,579
and every time we hire them, they say what they're going to do or not going to do.

816
00:44:40,579 --> 00:44:44,780
The snow removal stuff. And nobody thinks it's a big deal, but I'm the one down here

817
00:44:44,780 --> 00:44:46,940
at, you know, five in the morning shoveling now.

818
00:44:46,940 --> 00:45:05,670
Wait, also, we've got the principal and janitor, who's ahead, that does the job that we need them to do.

819
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:11,739
Well, they hired a cleaning company, so that cleaning company, I don't imagine...

820
00:45:11,739 --> 00:45:12,739
It's going to be doing snow.

821
00:45:12,739 --> 00:45:16,739
It's going to be on a temporary basis, and then this summer when they have time, they're going to bid it out.

822
00:45:16,739 --> 00:45:17,739
Okay, do you...

823
00:45:17,739 --> 00:45:19,739
They have someone in mind already.

824
00:45:19,739 --> 00:45:21,739
As a janitor or a cleaning company?

825
00:45:21,739 --> 00:45:23,739
Or a custodian, or...

826
00:45:23,739 --> 00:45:27,989
A custodian from Reedsboro is now going to be out of the job.

827
00:45:27,989 --> 00:45:28,989
Oh.

828
00:45:28,989 --> 00:45:31,989
They have to do a whole process.

829
00:45:31,989 --> 00:45:34,989
If the select board could put in their two cents in this, and...

830
00:45:34,989 --> 00:45:35,989
I mean, you've got to...

831
00:45:35,989 --> 00:45:39,989
You've got to be down here at five in the morning shoveling your snow on all these walks.

832
00:45:39,989 --> 00:45:40,989
And that's part of that job.

833
00:45:40,989 --> 00:45:42,989
It's always been part of that job.

834
00:45:42,989 --> 00:45:45,340
If you can't do it, you can't do the job.

835
00:45:45,340 --> 00:45:47,340
It's like, I'll just say, well, you know what?

836
00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:49,500
I don't want to plow snow with.

837
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:52,500
Yeah, these are the things that I want to do on the highway.

838
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:53,500
Right.

839
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:55,500
Here's my list.

840
00:45:55,500 --> 00:46:00,500
Also, you said that the school has a budget for that.

841
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:01,500
Yeah.

842
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:02,500
For snow removal.

843
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:05,500
Yeah, they had a separate line on them for snow removal.

844
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:06,500
Yeah.

845
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:08,500
They just hire themselves.

846
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:12,340
But they've, since Rich, they've just left.

847
00:46:12,340 --> 00:46:16,099
Because they can't get anybody.

848
00:46:16,099 --> 00:46:21,699
Probably because they're not paying enough.

849
00:46:21,699 --> 00:47:11,710
Well, I wasn't going to bring the school board to the school.

850
00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:15,530
We've got to start.

851
00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:20,789
It used to be we would lease that much out.

852
00:47:20,789 --> 00:47:22,909
You have the budget.

853
00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:47,510
If you can't do that, there's three bodies now.

854
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:48,510
Okay?

855
00:47:48,510 --> 00:47:49,510
Three bodies.

856
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:51,510
There's tension now.

857
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:54,510
While we're talking about tension, can I ask what happened with the library?

858
00:47:54,510 --> 00:47:57,510
I was out of town Tuesday and Thursday.

859
00:47:57,510 --> 00:48:00,510
There have been emails back and forth.

860
00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:06,090
Tuesday they were, Tuesday the library was open to the public.

861
00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:07,090
Yeah.

862
00:48:07,090 --> 00:48:08,090
Was it today?

863
00:48:08,090 --> 00:48:09,090
Today.

864
00:48:09,090 --> 00:48:13,090
Danielle went there at noon time and it said, there was a sign on the door, do not disturb.

865
00:48:13,090 --> 00:48:15,090
She took a picture of it.

866
00:48:15,090 --> 00:48:17,090
And I don't know what happened.

867
00:48:17,090 --> 00:48:20,730
So, we said no.

868
00:48:20,730 --> 00:48:21,730
They said no.

869
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:23,730
They said, I don't care.

870
00:48:23,730 --> 00:48:25,019
Yeah.

871
00:48:25,019 --> 00:48:26,019
They did what they wanted.

872
00:48:26,019 --> 00:48:27,019
In time.

873
00:48:27,019 --> 00:48:28,019
We got it.

874
00:48:28,019 --> 00:48:29,019
We got it.

875
00:48:29,019 --> 00:48:30,019
It's a town and a school.

876
00:48:30,019 --> 00:48:32,079
They're going to have to figure it out part ways.

877
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:37,079
Well, because the state, the school had, and this is not the school board at all.

878
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,079
This is the state and the supervisory union.

879
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,880
The union has the state behind them per law.

880
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,880
They have the state behind them.

881
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,880
And that's what's going to hurt us because you can push, push, push, and then they have

882
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,880
the law.

883
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:52,880
Yeah.

884
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,010
And if we end up, now I hate to say this.

885
00:48:54,010 --> 00:48:55,010
Yeah.

886
00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:59,380
But if we end up going to a court system, they have the money.

887
00:48:59,380 --> 00:49:00,380
It's our money, but they have it.

888
00:49:00,380 --> 00:49:01,380
Yeah.

889
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:02,380
And they're going to beat you.

890
00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:03,420
And it's sad.

891
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:14,320
You know, I hate to say that right now because I don't, who owns this and who owns that?

892
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,380
It's all about who has control.

893
00:49:15,380 --> 00:49:16,380
That's where we're at.

894
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:17,480
I don't know.

895
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,480
Well, it was probably, it was 19, 19 and 20.

896
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Right.

897
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,579
Yeah.

898
00:49:20,579 --> 00:49:22,090
And that agenda, and again, this is an opinion, that agenda is that they want control over

899
00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:27,340
the law.

900
00:49:27,340 --> 00:49:40,980
Yeah.

901
00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:41,980
That's what we're talking about.

902
00:49:41,980 --> 00:49:43,179
Yeah.

903
00:49:43,179 --> 00:49:44,179
That's what we're talking about.

904
00:49:44,179 --> 00:49:45,179
That's what we're talking about.

905
00:49:45,179 --> 00:49:46,179
That's what we're talking about.

906
00:49:46,179 --> 00:49:47,179
Yeah.

907
00:49:47,179 --> 00:49:48,340
They want control over the law.

908
00:49:48,340 --> 00:49:49,340
Yeah.

909
00:49:49,340 --> 00:49:50,340
It's a planned agenda.

910
00:49:50,340 --> 00:49:51,340
They don't control the money.

911
00:49:51,340 --> 00:49:52,340
Correct.

912
00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:53,340
It's a planned agenda.

913
00:49:53,340 --> 00:49:54,340
If it has to wait until next March.

914
00:49:54,340 --> 00:49:55,340
Yep.

915
00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:56,340
That's our ace in the hole, I guess.

916
00:49:56,340 --> 00:49:57,340
Yeah.

917
00:49:57,340 --> 00:49:58,340
That may have to be it.

918
00:49:58,340 --> 00:49:59,340
I mean, it's a planned agenda and the first shot was fired.

919
00:49:59,340 --> 00:50:00,340
Sure was.

920
00:50:00,340 --> 00:50:01,340
But it means we kind of have to demand their budget early enough to be able to look at

921
00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:02,340
it for a week or two before town meeting and to really go over it.

922
00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:03,909
I mean, I finally got to the point where I said, you know what?

923
00:50:03,909 --> 00:50:04,909
We're going to do this.

924
00:50:04,909 --> 00:50:05,909
We're going to do this.

925
00:50:05,909 --> 00:50:06,909
We're going to do this.

926
00:50:06,909 --> 00:50:07,909
We're going to do this.

927
00:50:07,909 --> 00:50:08,909
We're going to do this.

928
00:50:08,909 --> 00:50:09,909
We're going to do this.

929
00:50:09,909 --> 00:50:16,909
I mean, I finally got an answer from a library money that's scheduled for 27 and they put

930
00:50:16,909 --> 00:50:25,030
a big put a bring that suddenly is.

931
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:26,030
Yeah.

932
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:31,019
It's not the librarian expense into the.

933
00:50:31,019 --> 00:50:32,239
Salary then.

934
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:40,059
Shouldn't be.

935
00:50:40,059 --> 00:50:48,809
It makes sense to a town office slash library or.

936
00:50:48,809 --> 00:50:56,420
You know, I didn't spend mention of a federal budget.

937
00:50:56,420 --> 00:51:02,250
We're going to do this.

938
00:51:02,250 --> 00:51:03,250
We're going to do this.

939
00:51:03,250 --> 00:51:18,969
We're going to do this.

940
00:51:18,969 --> 00:51:26,619
We're going to do this.

941
00:51:26,619 --> 00:51:27,619
We're going to do this.

942
00:51:27,619 --> 00:51:28,619
We're going to do this.

943
00:51:28,619 --> 00:51:39,320
We're going to do this.

944
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,699
We're going to do this.

945
00:51:40,699 --> 00:51:42,380
We're going to do this.

946
00:51:42,380 --> 00:52:19,340
Oh, we're going to do this.

947
00:52:19,340 --> 00:52:33,590
We are.

948
00:52:33,590 --> 00:52:59,739
Got the

949
00:52:59,739 --> 00:53:03,219
We're going to do does.

950
00:53:03,219 --> 00:53:10,219
Well, we put in something like $30,000, $35,000, and they put in $12,000.

951
00:53:10,219 --> 00:53:11,219
Yes.

952
00:53:11,219 --> 00:53:20,219
And in fact, they budget $11,000 for the last three years, and they've only spent $2,500.

953
00:53:20,219 --> 00:53:24,219
So that $2,500 went for the salary of somebody.

954
00:53:24,219 --> 00:53:32,769
I asked Julie, and she says for the past year they have had somebody, you know, work in

955
00:53:32,769 --> 00:53:37,769
the library one day a week, so they've actually spent the money.

956
00:53:37,769 --> 00:53:40,090
But it doesn't look like it.

957
00:53:40,090 --> 00:53:52,039
Just because I'm new at this and everything, but it seems like Blue Wolf Lash, going back

958
00:53:52,039 --> 00:54:00,239
and forth on, is it a school situation or is it a town thing?

959
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,340
So do we have to actually sit down and say this is what it is?

960
00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:12,590
I can verify 100% the property that we're sitting on is owned by the town people.

961
00:54:12,590 --> 00:54:14,880
And I can verify that.

962
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,769
We went through it back in 2000, whenever it was.

963
00:54:19,769 --> 00:54:20,769
The attorney.

964
00:54:20,769 --> 00:54:23,769
Yep, so we can prove that.

965
00:54:23,769 --> 00:54:28,769
The problem is, there's a state law, and I can't quote that number.

966
00:54:28,769 --> 00:54:36,829
That state law does state during school hours, the control of the operations of the property,

967
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:44,940
school, and it says school, is under jurisdiction of the educational department.

968
00:54:44,940 --> 00:54:45,940
Now when they call it the school, it's under jurisdiction of the school.

969
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:46,940
So it's under jurisdiction of the school.

970
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:54,730
Is this the school? It's attached to the building. Is this the school?

971
00:54:54,730 --> 00:54:58,730
Because they're saying that the library, which is a separate entity,

972
00:54:58,730 --> 00:55:03,730
different than the slot board or the town office and the school.

973
00:55:03,730 --> 00:55:06,730
It's a separate entity. They have their own budget.

974
00:55:06,730 --> 00:55:10,730
But they're saying that's part of the school and we're in charge of it.

975
00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:14,139
Well, if you're in charge of it, then pay the librarian.

976
00:55:14,139 --> 00:55:30,480
We went over to space. Yeah, it was three kids.

977
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,480
And they had... Well, they didn't say three.

978
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,480
We said probably not more than six. We don't know how many.

979
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,090
But I do. They have 81 hours that they can test per week.

980
00:55:43,090 --> 00:55:49,090
And they chose to pick those hours that the library happens to be open.

981
00:55:49,090 --> 00:55:53,090
And every educator that was here in the room said it's very unlikely

982
00:55:53,090 --> 00:55:55,090
that they would test in the afternoon.

983
00:55:55,090 --> 00:55:58,090
Because kids don't score well in the afternoon.

984
00:55:58,090 --> 00:56:01,090
So something's up. It's a test.

985
00:56:01,090 --> 00:56:05,090
This has got nothing to do with the test for the kids or the library.

986
00:56:05,090 --> 00:56:08,090
This goes back to more things, too.

987
00:56:08,090 --> 00:56:14,659
The library had problems back in, I think it was December.

988
00:56:14,659 --> 00:56:18,369
The superintendent, not the school board.

989
00:56:18,369 --> 00:56:22,369
We've got to remember, the superintendent's making these calls, not the school board.

990
00:56:22,369 --> 00:56:24,690
The school board should be.

991
00:56:24,690 --> 00:56:27,099
They're our representatives.

992
00:56:27,099 --> 00:56:30,099
If they're the ones that should be making these calls, they're not.

993
00:56:30,099 --> 00:56:34,329
They weren't even involved in the emails back and forth.

994
00:56:34,329 --> 00:56:38,329
And we weren't involved in the emails until the library decided to bring us in.

995
00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:40,710
But they had problems.

996
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:43,710
One day they just said, we're changing the locks.

997
00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:48,840
They said, well, for the door to go into the school so we can use the bathroom.

998
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,570
Because this place is closed on a Saturday.

999
00:56:53,570 --> 00:56:55,570
Changing the locks. Well, can we have a lock? No.

1000
00:56:55,570 --> 00:56:57,570
Or a key. No.

1001
00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:01,780
They didn't trust it, and they finally got a key.

1002
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:04,780
But they also threatened, and I don't care if they hear me.

1003
00:57:04,780 --> 00:57:10,780
They threatened again, saying, if that door is left unlocked, just one time we're taking the key away.

1004
00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:14,820
Like our librarians, our little kids.

1005
00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:17,820
Well, how do you know it was left open by them?

1006
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:19,820
Since you have a key, too.

1007
00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:26,230
If the school has a key, and our librarian has a key, who left the door unlocked?

1008
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:27,230
I'm not sure.

1009
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:28,230
I've never been over it.

1010
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:29,230
Believe it or not.

1011
00:57:29,230 --> 00:57:31,230
Because I don't know how to read.

1012
00:57:31,230 --> 00:57:35,260
Is that the only emergency exit?

1013
00:57:35,260 --> 00:57:37,260
You know what I mean?

1014
00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:40,260
It's the second exit door to go in.

1015
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:42,260
It's the second door.

1016
00:57:42,260 --> 00:57:43,260
Yeah.

1017
00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:48,260
So it's a violation of the law.

1018
00:57:48,260 --> 00:57:50,260
That was a regular class.

1019
00:57:50,260 --> 00:57:52,260
So you have to be able to get out.

1020
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:54,260
That's a straight lock.

1021
00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:55,260
You can't get out.

1022
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:56,260
It's locked.

1023
00:57:56,260 --> 00:57:57,260
That's wrong.

1024
00:57:57,260 --> 00:57:58,260
That's wrong.

1025
00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:04,260
And sometime we wanted to try, and there was a proposal to put a second door at the far corner.

1026
00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:05,840
Yeah.

1027
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,840
And it faded somewhere.

1028
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,840
When there's maintenance to be done in the library, the library ends.

1029
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,840
The library trustees, they pay for it out of their budget.

1030
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,840
The school doesn't.

1031
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,840
You can't have that both ways here.

1032
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,840
So your question is, who owns it?

1033
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,840
We do.

1034
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,840
The town of Stanford owns it.

1035
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,840
Not the flight board.

1036
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,840
The town of Stanford.

1037
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,840
Okay?

1038
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,840
The residents.

1039
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,840
The taxpayers.

1040
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,840
This guy, and I don't care.

1041
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,840
I mean, I'm going to say it right in public.

1042
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,840
This guy comes down, and he's pushing them around, and he does have the law.

1043
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,840
I get it.

1044
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:35,840
The law says it, but we have to say it.

1045
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,840
We don't have to be bullies and say, well, we're going to push back.

1046
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,840
Well, why can't you just say, hey, is it okay?

1047
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,840
You know, you knew you were going to test months ago.

1048
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:39,840
Why didn't you say, hey, is there a way we can do it?

1049
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,840
You know, you knew you were going to test months ago.

1050
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Why didn't you say, hey, is there a way we can do it?

1051
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,840
Why didn't you say, hey, is there a way we can do it?

1052
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:44,539
Why didn't you say, hey, is there a way we can do it?

1053
00:58:44,539 --> 00:58:45,539
So we can advertise to the people that the library will be open during a different time.

1054
00:58:45,539 --> 00:58:46,539
Instead, he does it.

1055
00:58:46,539 --> 00:58:47,539
Shut it down.

1056
00:58:47,539 --> 00:58:48,539
He didn't ask.

1057
00:58:48,539 --> 00:58:49,539
We paid.

1058
00:58:49,539 --> 00:58:50,539
Our budget.

1059
00:58:50,539 --> 00:58:51,539
We paid for that.

1060
00:58:51,539 --> 00:58:52,539
So, ready?

1061
00:58:52,539 --> 00:58:53,539
Right.

1062
00:58:53,539 --> 00:58:54,860
So, okay.

1063
00:58:54,860 --> 00:58:55,860
I'll pass it on to everybody.

1064
00:58:55,860 --> 00:58:56,860
With that being said.

1065
00:58:56,860 --> 00:58:57,860
Okay.

1066
00:58:57,860 --> 00:58:58,860
Okay.

1067
00:58:58,860 --> 00:58:59,860
Okay.

1068
00:58:59,860 --> 00:59:00,860
Okay.

1069
00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:01,860
Okay.

1070
00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:03,659
Okay.

1071
00:59:03,659 --> 00:59:04,659
Okay.

1072
00:59:04,659 --> 00:59:05,659
Okay.

1073
00:59:05,659 --> 00:59:07,909
Okay.

1074
00:59:07,909 --> 00:59:08,909
Okay.

1075
00:59:08,909 --> 00:59:09,909
Okay.

1076
00:59:09,909 --> 00:59:12,130
Okay.

1077
00:59:12,130 --> 00:59:13,579
Okay.

1078
00:59:13,579 --> 00:59:14,579
Okay.

1079
00:59:14,579 --> 00:59:20,469
Okay.

1080
00:59:20,469 --> 00:59:21,630
Okay.

1081
00:59:21,630 --> 00:59:22,630
Okay.

1082
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:34,739
Okay.

1083
00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:42,099
Okay.

1084
00:59:42,099 --> 00:59:43,099
Okay.

1085
00:59:43,099 --> 00:59:44,099
Okay.

1086
00:59:44,099 --> 00:59:45,099
Okay.

1087
00:59:45,099 --> 00:59:46,099
Okay.

1088
00:59:46,099 --> 00:59:47,099
Okay.

1089
00:59:47,099 --> 00:59:48,099
Okay.

1090
00:59:48,099 --> 00:59:49,099
Okay.

1091
00:59:49,099 --> 00:59:50,099
Okay.

1092
00:59:50,099 --> 00:59:51,099
Okay.

1093
00:59:51,099 --> 00:59:52,099
Okay.

1094
00:59:52,099 --> 00:59:53,099
Okay.

1095
00:59:53,099 --> 00:59:54,099
Okay.

1096
00:59:54,099 --> 00:59:55,099
Okay.

1097
00:59:55,099 --> 00:59:56,099
Okay.

1098
00:59:56,099 --> 00:59:57,099
Okay.

1099
00:59:57,099 --> 00:59:58,099
Okay.

1100
00:59:58,099 --> 00:59:59,099
Okay.

1101
00:59:59,099 --> 01:00:00,099
Okay.

1102
01:00:00,099 --> 01:00:01,099
Okay.

1103
01:00:01,099 --> 01:00:02,099
Okay.

1104
01:00:02,099 --> 01:00:03,099
Okay.

1105
01:00:03,099 --> 01:00:04,099
Okay.

1106
01:00:04,099 --> 01:00:05,099
Okay.

1107
01:00:05,099 --> 01:00:06,099
Okay.

1108
01:00:06,099 --> 01:00:07,099
Okay.

1109
01:00:07,099 --> 01:00:08,099
Okay.

1110
01:00:08,099 --> 01:00:09,099
Okay.

1111
01:00:09,099 --> 01:00:10,099
Okay.

1112
01:00:10,099 --> 01:00:16,460
said from the road to the river and from that not just the building it's the

1113
01:00:16,460 --> 01:00:22,940
property that's what they said I disagree but be interesting to bring to

1114
01:00:22,940 --> 01:00:30,309
town meeting or to do research before time to see if we can find what part of

1115
01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:37,159
the building belongs to the school whether we can extend the library

1116
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:48,250
building that they get for the school yeah you remember that they're turning

1117
01:00:48,250 --> 01:00:56,480
disagree with our here's the thing if you go down in the land in the very

1118
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:03,159
recent history the principal has taken a classroom made her office not this

1119
01:01:03,159 --> 01:01:11,809
privilege so they've taken that the multi-purpose that's what it says on our

1120
01:01:11,809 --> 01:01:15,210
deed it's a multi-purpose room it's locked down you have to ask for

1121
01:01:15,210 --> 01:01:15,869
permission to use it

1122
01:01:15,869 --> 01:01:21,110
years that our sweat or has to have permission we are in order to use that

1123
01:01:21,110 --> 01:01:24,989
every Thursday night we have permission we have to ask them at the beginning of

1124
01:01:24,989 --> 01:01:29,630
the year they're taking little in the name of safety that's what they always

1125
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:34,360
say it's in the name of safety which you all know I feel like something I truly

1126
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:40,869
believe we should read away to say we have to have a meeting where you know

1127
01:01:40,869 --> 01:01:43,590
when you go to the school meetings now I don't know if everybody's been here a

1128
01:01:43,590 --> 01:01:47,230
while but the head the chairman of the school

1129
01:01:47,230 --> 01:01:47,389
board

1130
01:01:47,409 --> 01:01:49,170
doesn't run it anymore.

1131
01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:51,510
You know, it's like Nancy, having the state come down,

1132
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:54,769
the representative runs our meetings instead of Nancy now.

1133
01:01:54,769 --> 01:01:57,019
That's BS.

1134
01:01:57,019 --> 01:02:02,769
So the technical, in a circle,

1135
01:02:02,769 --> 01:02:08,159
they technically then would control this too as well?

1136
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:11,840
As legal in our town clerk office.

1137
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:19,940
So, according to another person who was here

1138
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:25,179
from Reesboro, the school, wasn't it the library

1139
01:02:25,179 --> 01:02:30,000
had to lease to the school, or from the school.

1140
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,699
So the library leases the property from the school.

1141
01:02:33,699 --> 01:02:35,179
That might be where we're headed now.

1142
01:02:35,179 --> 01:02:38,719
They're gonna say, well, you wanna keep your offices here.

1143
01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:40,539
This is what it costs.

1144
01:02:40,539 --> 01:02:42,519
You know, your taxpayers pay everything anyways,

1145
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:44,119
but this is what it costs.

1146
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:48,840
And then once you do that, now you are bound by their rules.

1147
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,440
So you're gonna have to do this, this,

1148
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,840
you're only gonna be able to open so many times.

1149
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,340
Are you gonna be able to have a hunter come in

1150
01:02:55,780 --> 01:02:57,340
with a deer, chuck a deer in,

1151
01:02:57,340 --> 01:02:59,099
and have his gun in his truck?

1152
01:02:59,099 --> 01:03:00,539
I've been seeing that for many years.

1153
01:03:00,539 --> 01:03:02,880
Where does this go?

1154
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,639
A dead deer in a vacuum truck?

1155
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:05,480
Oh my God.

1156
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,320
Just a quick aside.

1157
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,780
Joan called me because if nobody else gets weather notices,

1158
01:03:09,780 --> 01:03:11,420
the alert weather notices,

1159
01:03:11,420 --> 01:03:14,260
they've just posted from seven o'clock tonight

1160
01:03:14,260 --> 01:03:17,099
to seven a.m. tomorrow morning for freezing rain.

1161
01:03:18,019 --> 01:03:18,860
For Stanford.

1162
01:03:22,539 --> 01:03:25,780
Put a face value on the town's...

1163
01:03:25,780 --> 01:03:26,619
Trash removal?

1164
01:03:26,619 --> 01:03:31,840
For what it's valued at, have the school buy out

1165
01:03:32,179 --> 01:03:35,880
and then relocate, find somewhere else to go.

1166
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,780
You know, one of the things that Stanford's

1167
01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:42,139
always priding themselves on, all small towns do,

1168
01:03:42,139 --> 01:03:46,280
is come move to our town because we have a great school.

1169
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:51,280
Can anybody honestly say that it's equal

1170
01:03:51,739 --> 01:03:54,119
to when Kurt went to school?

1171
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:56,619
Is this school equal to that?

1172
01:03:56,619 --> 01:03:57,460
No.

1173
01:03:57,460 --> 01:03:59,960
No, you had teachers that were dedicated for a long time.

1174
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:02,260
You had a principal that was dedicated for a long time.

1175
01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:03,920
They were homegrown.

1176
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,400
Not to put these people down,

1177
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,400
but this town's mission statement has changed.

1178
01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:12,440
It's different.

1179
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,789
We hear, oh, we'd rather have trophy homes in this town.

1180
01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:19,349
People that come where they don't have children.

1181
01:04:19,349 --> 01:04:21,949
Which sounds good on paper with taxes,

1182
01:04:21,949 --> 01:04:23,630
but who runs your town?

1183
01:04:23,630 --> 01:04:25,429
Who joins the volunteer fire department

1184
01:04:25,429 --> 01:04:26,949
or runs your town government?

1185
01:04:26,949 --> 01:04:30,489
Well, how are we gonna figure out what the tax base is?

1186
01:04:30,489 --> 01:04:32,710
Right, if there's no school, hypothetically.

1187
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:33,550
Right.

1188
01:04:33,550 --> 01:04:34,710
And the whole dynamic of your town changes.

1189
01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:37,349
You no longer have middle, you know.

1190
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:38,690
Yeah, you don't know what the future holds

1191
01:04:38,690 --> 01:04:39,530
for a school. Middle-aged people

1192
01:04:39,530 --> 01:04:40,369
with young kids, no.

1193
01:04:40,369 --> 01:04:41,210
Right, cool.

1194
01:04:41,210 --> 01:04:43,530
It has to be something completely different.

1195
01:04:43,530 --> 01:04:45,349
So then where do you get your tax revenue from?

1196
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:48,730
Right, and remember, if you have a child,

1197
01:04:48,730 --> 01:04:51,730
school or no school, the town's responsible to educate them.

1198
01:04:51,730 --> 01:04:55,230
Sure, yeah, and I mean, high school is our killer.

1199
01:04:55,230 --> 01:04:56,650
But, you know.

1200
01:04:56,650 --> 01:05:01,150
Those are the questions, because if you're not a small town

1201
01:05:01,150 --> 01:05:03,969
with a rural school, then you're something completely different.

1202
01:05:03,969 --> 01:05:06,570
It'll be interesting to see what Reedsboro's budget

1203
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:08,690
turns out to be by the end of this year

1204
01:05:08,690 --> 01:05:11,010
and what they're proposing next year.

1205
01:05:11,010 --> 01:05:13,849
So I'm sure we're gonna get some more tips through it.

1206
01:05:13,849 --> 01:05:16,309
They can, because it's, like I just said,

1207
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:18,730
what's the cost to send our kids to the high school?

1208
01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:20,230
And now you gotta do that with Gramercy.

1209
01:05:20,230 --> 01:05:23,110
It depends on what the superintendent says

1210
01:05:23,110 --> 01:05:26,449
as a tuition rate in Stanford that they charge.

1211
01:05:26,650 --> 01:05:28,619
And then there's Reedsboro, correct?

1212
01:05:28,619 --> 01:05:29,340
That's great.

1213
01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:30,900
I'm actually on work right now,

1214
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:33,219
I'm working on the town plan survey.

1215
01:05:33,219 --> 01:05:36,980
And a lot of those questions are kinda coming up in here,

1216
01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:40,920
but maybe we wanna be more concrete when we ask town people and

1217
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,579
get a survey into this.

1218
01:05:43,579 --> 01:05:49,019
Because it does ask general questions about consolidating schools and

1219
01:05:49,019 --> 01:05:52,880
whatnot, but maybe- That's the one that you're gonna send out?

1220
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,460
We're doing the town plan when we first do a survey.

1221
01:05:54,460 --> 01:05:55,099
Okay.

1222
01:05:55,099 --> 01:05:58,219
I'm wondering if we want to put some questions in about the building.

1223
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:14,929
I hate to say this, and I don't like spending wasteful money, but this could cost money

1224
01:06:14,929 --> 01:06:15,929
to get us nowhere.

1225
01:06:15,929 --> 01:06:16,929
Right.

1226
01:06:16,929 --> 01:06:21,230
You know, and I hate to say it, I hate to put it all out there, but it is what it is.

1227
01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:26,730
And the people that watch this video are going to go, well, how is this happening?

1228
01:06:26,730 --> 01:06:27,730
Well, it is.

1229
01:06:27,730 --> 01:06:29,730
And just like you said, we should be bringing it to town meeting.

1230
01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:34,730
We should be bringing it up now, get it out, because if we do, like John said, if we do

1231
01:06:34,730 --> 01:06:39,730
have to purchase a piece of property, let's get it out now before we're forced to purchase

1232
01:06:39,730 --> 01:06:40,889
a piece of property.

1233
01:06:40,889 --> 01:06:41,889
It just makes more sense.

1234
01:06:41,889 --> 01:06:44,889
It's kind of pathetic that we don't own these properties in town.

1235
01:06:44,889 --> 01:06:46,889
Well, we own this, but…

1236
01:06:46,889 --> 01:06:47,889
Own this, yeah.

1237
01:06:47,889 --> 01:06:49,889
Not during school operating hours.

1238
01:06:49,889 --> 01:06:50,889
It's penultimate.

1239
01:06:50,889 --> 01:06:52,210
And that's what I…

1240
01:06:52,210 --> 01:06:57,210
I look at this piece of property as one beautiful piece of property, okay?

1241
01:06:57,210 --> 01:06:58,210
Yeah.

1242
01:06:58,210 --> 01:06:59,210
And I don't…

1243
01:06:59,210 --> 01:07:00,210
I think that the feel that we have back there is unutilized.

1244
01:07:00,210 --> 01:07:01,210
I mean, the kids still go out there and use it like they used to.

1245
01:07:01,210 --> 01:07:02,210
There's no Stanford sports teams anymore.

1246
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:03,210
None of that happens, you know?

1247
01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:04,210
So, you know, when I was a kid, we came up here and played football out there.

1248
01:07:04,210 --> 01:07:05,210
We had a team, you know?

1249
01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:06,210
Yeah, yeah.

1250
01:07:06,210 --> 01:07:07,210
So, I remember this stuff.

1251
01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:08,210
We played basketball here and there.

1252
01:07:08,210 --> 01:07:09,210
It was a basketball team.

1253
01:07:09,210 --> 01:07:10,210
And I know it's different, but I don't really want to let this property go…

1254
01:07:10,210 --> 01:07:11,210
Right.

1255
01:07:11,210 --> 01:07:12,210
To a…

1256
01:07:12,210 --> 01:07:13,210
To a…

1257
01:07:13,210 --> 01:07:14,210
To a…

1258
01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:15,210
To a…

1259
01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:16,210
To a…

1260
01:07:16,210 --> 01:07:17,210
To a…

1261
01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:18,210
To a…

1262
01:07:18,210 --> 01:07:19,210
To a…

1263
01:07:19,210 --> 01:07:20,210
To a…

1264
01:07:20,210 --> 01:07:21,210
To a…

1265
01:07:21,210 --> 01:07:22,210
To a…

1266
01:07:22,210 --> 01:07:23,210
To a…

1267
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:24,429
To a…

1268
01:07:24,429 --> 01:07:25,429
To a…

1269
01:07:25,429 --> 01:07:31,530
To a supervisor union that could close your school tomorrow and they own your property

1270
01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:32,530
now.

1271
01:07:32,530 --> 01:07:33,849
Right.

1272
01:07:33,849 --> 01:07:34,849
You know?

1273
01:07:34,849 --> 01:07:43,460
It's one of the things I fought for before talking about Clarkson.

1274
01:07:43,460 --> 01:08:00,059
If you looked at it, we would have had to join the Northern Berkshire School District.

1275
01:08:00,059 --> 01:08:01,059
Well, be careful.

1276
01:08:01,059 --> 01:08:02,059
See, that's what…

1277
01:08:02,059 --> 01:08:03,059
That's what happened to where…

1278
01:08:03,059 --> 01:08:04,059
Because…

1279
01:08:04,059 --> 01:08:05,059
They don't own it.

1280
01:08:05,059 --> 01:08:06,059
The school doesn't own it.

1281
01:08:06,059 --> 01:08:07,059
So…

1282
01:08:07,059 --> 01:08:08,059
So…

1283
01:08:08,059 --> 01:08:09,280
You mentioned…

1284
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:16,979
them leasing us the property for use of the off to school to

1285
01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:23,300
Well, I'd love to. I'd love to. I'd like to say that we're in charge and then you're going to find just what it is

1286
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:30,539
you lease to them. Right. I would love to look at something like that. I don't know if we can but I'd like to say okay.

1287
01:08:30,539 --> 01:08:33,539
Is that way you would maintain your controlling interest in the building?

1288
01:08:33,539 --> 01:08:40,380
And have hours and everything. We're going to lease your, your multi-purpose room will be leased for you to use it during school hours.

1289
01:08:40,380 --> 01:08:42,380
Even if it was selling for five dollars.

1290
01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:44,380
Oh, well, it's still then it puts you in.

1291
01:08:44,380 --> 01:08:52,380
The superintendent did say in one of his letters we should have a memorandum of understanding between the library and the town.

1292
01:08:52,380 --> 01:08:56,380
What do you think that's going to say? Everything he wants it to say.

1293
01:08:56,380 --> 01:09:01,380
Well, I'm hoping it's a back and forth negotiation there. So, we start somewhere.

1294
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:09,279
So, this guy, this man, we just told him on a very, this is a very simple experiment.

1295
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:13,279
We said no, we're not going to close the library and he did anyways.

1296
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:19,050
See that negotiation? That was a failure of negotiation.

1297
01:09:19,050 --> 01:09:26,560
But do, in his emails he'd say invite me down. I'll have more than I would love to come talk to you guys.

1298
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,560
Okay.

1299
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:39,300
So, but the statement of that is if you came down and we talked, we're still going to end up in the same place.

1300
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:47,590
How can we change it? Unless we have, unless we have concrete things that say we can do this.

1301
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:49,590
These rules can't apply.

1302
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:54,380
You read that law, I can't remember.

1303
01:09:54,380 --> 01:10:10,909
It's very, to me it's a vague law because it talks about, you know, in session, in session versus an after school program.

1304
01:10:10,909 --> 01:10:16,140
You know, we used to have basketball games. Parents walked in, uncles walked in, you know.

1305
01:10:16,140 --> 01:10:18,140
You never knew it was there.

1306
01:10:18,140 --> 01:10:21,140
I mean, does the school have session if they go skiing until 7 o'clock at night on the trip?

1307
01:10:21,140 --> 01:10:24,140
Yeah, and then you come back here with the bus, yeah.

1308
01:10:24,140 --> 01:10:25,140
I don't know.

1309
01:10:25,140 --> 01:10:28,140
That's what I'm saying. It's a very vague thing.

1310
01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:35,420
And yes, in the name of safety, they use the kids as pawns and it's all about money.

1311
01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:36,420
Yeah.

1312
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:42,060
That's all it is. They use the kids as pawns.

1313
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:43,060
School dance on a Friday night.

1314
01:10:43,060 --> 01:10:44,060
Yeah.

1315
01:10:44,060 --> 01:10:45,060
Down the clock.

1316
01:10:45,060 --> 01:10:53,300
No, no, no, sorry.

1317
01:10:53,300 --> 01:10:56,600
But with the school board?

1318
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:05,130
I think we should ask them right away. Let's have a joint meeting with the school board to discuss this.

1319
01:11:05,130 --> 01:11:10,130
The school board, not the supervisor in the union. We want to talk to the school board.

1320
01:11:10,130 --> 01:11:11,130
I think as soon as you're . . .

1321
01:11:11,130 --> 01:11:12,130
And library trustees together?

1322
01:11:12,130 --> 01:11:13,130
Sure.

1323
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:14,130
Let's just write that down.

1324
01:11:14,130 --> 01:11:16,130
I was going to say, just be a trustee . . .

1325
01:11:16,130 --> 01:11:23,340
That would be great, yeah, because as a matter of fact, the more people there, the less he's going to want.

1326
01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:24,340
We're going to set that up.

1327
01:11:24,340 --> 01:11:45,750
Let's do it. Don't go in and have a date with school and just let those in charge of the library.

1328
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:46,750
Can't we just send an email?

1329
01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:47,750
Linda?

1330
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:48,750
Linda.

1331
01:11:48,750 --> 01:11:51,750
Yeah, I'm going to send an email through our email.

1332
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:52,750
Yeah.

1333
01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:53,750
Who should I send it to?

1334
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:56,750
Linda Radovich and Cindy Lamar.

1335
01:11:56,750 --> 01:12:02,489
If we're done with that.

1336
01:12:02,489 --> 01:12:03,489
Yeah.

1337
01:12:03,489 --> 01:12:04,489
We were talking about taxation.

1338
01:12:04,489 --> 01:12:05,489
Yeah.

1339
01:12:05,489 --> 01:12:06,489
And ways to make money in town.

1340
01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:07,489
This has also been a hot topic lately.

1341
01:12:07,489 --> 01:12:08,489
So, the state changed the law on the charter.

1342
01:12:08,489 --> 01:12:09,489
You no longer have to rewrite your charter to do a 1% sales tax.

1343
01:12:09,489 --> 01:12:10,489
You just have to have a town vote.

1344
01:12:10,489 --> 01:12:11,489
Really?

1345
01:12:11,489 --> 01:12:12,489
Yes.

1346
01:12:12,489 --> 01:12:13,489
What's the new law?

1347
01:12:13,489 --> 01:12:14,489
What's the new option tax?

1348
01:12:14,489 --> 01:12:15,489
Yeah, it's the new 1% option tax.

1349
01:12:15,489 --> 01:12:16,489
So, they changed it.

1350
01:12:16,489 --> 01:12:17,489
I don't know when.

1351
01:12:17,489 --> 01:12:18,489
It must have been fairly recently.

1352
01:12:18,489 --> 01:12:19,489
So . . .

1353
01:12:19,489 --> 01:12:20,489
So, what's the 1% of what?

1354
01:12:20,489 --> 01:12:21,489
1% of what?

1355
01:12:21,489 --> 01:12:22,489
1% of what?

1356
01:12:22,489 --> 01:12:23,489
1% of what?

1357
01:12:23,489 --> 01:12:24,489
1% of what?

1358
01:12:24,489 --> 01:12:25,489
1% of what?

1359
01:12:25,489 --> 01:12:26,489
1% of what?

1360
01:12:26,489 --> 01:12:27,489
1% of what?

1361
01:12:27,489 --> 01:12:28,489
1% of what?

1362
01:12:28,489 --> 01:12:29,550
1% of what?

1363
01:12:29,550 --> 01:12:30,550
1% of what?

1364
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:31,550
1% of what?

1365
01:12:31,550 --> 01:12:32,550
Yeah.

1366
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:33,550
So, 1% of what?

1367
01:12:33,550 --> 01:12:34,550
1% of what?

1368
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:35,550
So, of the sales tax.

1369
01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:36,550
Okay.

1370
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:39,949
Whatever the business might sell, the tax goes to the person buying it, the consumer.

1371
01:12:39,949 --> 01:12:40,949
Yeah.

1372
01:12:40,949 --> 01:12:43,569
The merchant would pay all that to the state.

1373
01:12:43,569 --> 01:12:44,569
What if it's a . . .

1374
01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:53,180
With the regular sales tax, they pay it to the state, and then you get 1% comes

1375
01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:54,180
back to the town.

1376
01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:55,180
But only three quarters of that comes back to like liquid cash.

1377
01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:56,180
Like you could spend that on whatever you need.

1378
01:12:56,180 --> 01:12:57,180
Yeah.

1379
01:12:57,180 --> 01:12:58,180
So, now . . .

1380
01:12:58,180 --> 01:12:59,180
Yeah.

1381
01:12:59,180 --> 01:12:59,680
Yeah.

1382
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:05,600
whatever you need and the other quarter goes into a pilot fund which i'm not exactly sure how that

1383
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:11,279
works but if we had state properties here it relieves the burden on that state property

1384
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,439
um i'm if it would work for green mountain national forest that would be great i don't

1385
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,920
think it does because they're not because they have we all we have is the two buildings up there

1386
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:26,239
with right so any state property that doesn't pay tat like property tax you don't get some kind of

1387
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:30,960
percentage what about like a manufacturer though then how would you get taxed off of that

1388
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:39,199
uh i'm not sure you got these sales tax it's like you know so road tax sales like my company

1389
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:46,020
my machine shop if i moved it up to my property over there i'm i don't have a sales tax so i'm not

1390
01:13:46,020 --> 01:13:50,100
i'm not sure that because you're not selling to the public i don't sell to the final i'm not the

1391
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:56,340
final guy right sell to a company that uses the parents there would be places that you know so

1392
01:13:56,500 --> 01:14:01,859
i don't know if you can tax something like that there's not a lot of can you find the statute and

1393
01:14:01,859 --> 01:14:07,100
send it to us well i'm just saying like if you look at anything they got a ton of manufacturers

1394
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:13,100
up there they must pay something isn't it yeah tax though yeah like a business tax the state decided

1395
01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:18,369
to do this because they they realized that thompson needed sure well i wouldn't have no

1396
01:14:18,369 --> 01:14:23,250
problem i'd pay a ton of taxes if i moved up here i have no problem there's not many

1397
01:14:24,689 --> 01:14:25,729
department of taxes

1398
01:14:26,689 --> 01:14:31,329
not many towns that are chartered chartered well you just have to rewrite your charter so

1399
01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:37,170
we don't even have one we don't have a charter no we've got the did you just rewrite it but we

1400
01:14:37,170 --> 01:14:41,489
don't have to do that no more you just have to have a tumble yeah it doesn't matter if you're

1401
01:14:41,489 --> 01:14:46,619
chartered right good so can you find that statute that'd be good to have yeah i found it on the

1402
01:14:46,619 --> 01:14:51,020
departments of taxes website i was looking at something fighting on that card though what's that

1403
01:14:51,020 --> 01:14:58,300
i thought they were still fighting show the whole list of towns that we're doing it so i think it's

1404
01:14:59,949 --> 01:15:11,140
only probably the only charter like bennington has in burlington the big towns yeah because uh

1405
01:15:15,409 --> 01:15:27,489
yes you can buy boards and pay their sales taxes we have no idea how many airbnbs in town so that's

1406
01:15:27,489 --> 01:15:30,930
the other thing your representative was here he said if you have a home

1407
01:15:30,930 --> 01:15:35,729
business you can make up to 30 000. what was he was he saying he could make it up

1408
01:15:36,779 --> 01:15:43,010
make up to 30 000 without paying taxes or make up i think so no income tax nothing without getting

1409
01:15:43,649 --> 01:15:44,609
certain licenses

1410
01:15:45,090 --> 01:16:38,449
oh okay does he still come here now that he's been power song electricity people they should

1411
01:16:38,449 --> 01:16:43,329
be paying us a tax they're using our right-of-ways to recharge right why aren't they paying the town

1412
01:16:43,329 --> 01:16:55,840
sure yeah this is together think outside the box not to the town utility yeah utilities they pay

1413
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:01,500
green mount power national grid and uh

1414
01:17:03,310 --> 01:17:04,989
because i know that yeah it's white again

1415
01:17:05,710 --> 01:17:05,869
um

1416
01:17:06,829 --> 01:17:14,100
our tax bills they need whitingham back in the day when they had a gold town because they paid

1417
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:29,600
which they only taxed them on that there's one right up in the box there now they set their own

1418
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:35,439
value they set their own value but they pay i don't even remember the tax bill but if you could

1419
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:43,439
tag some one percent on every dollar yeah that's a lot of money i mean we'd have to encourage more

1420
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:44,159
businesses somehow

1421
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,159
electricity

1422
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:47,199
yeah that's what we're thinking too

1423
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:52,340
to do that well i mean yeah but you're going to charge down the bill months you're you're so then

1424
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:57,619
you're going to pay more for your gas they already charge more than everyone else in town or in the

1425
01:17:57,619 --> 01:18:03,060
area but the philosophy is you're living past the cost i don't know what you're doing but what's the

1426
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:07,539
difference yeah by how many out of staters how many out of staters go to billmont's all right

1427
01:18:07,539 --> 01:18:11,939
right sure so they're they come up they throw their money in billmont's takes it and they

1428
01:18:13,220 --> 01:18:17,300
now those out of staters can pay that extra dollar

1429
01:18:17,619 --> 01:18:26,079
i mean most of it if most of the sales tax i wouldn't assume would go to the town right yeah

1430
01:18:26,079 --> 01:18:47,100
people that was changed because there's so many percent that's pushed we're not unique i mean

1431
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:56,560
there's small towns like this all over vermont they're going to struggle with and all that going