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Yeah.

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Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

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and to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation, under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Welcome to a meeting of the Stanford Slack Board.

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If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda,

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you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address.

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But we're going to limit this discussion just to library use.

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If anything else, we'll take up a regular select board meeting.

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So, who's the chairman of the library? Tina?

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Nope, Linda.

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I am.

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Linda, okay.

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We did get copies of your letter, so I guess libraries first, and tell us what's...

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I'm not really the voice, so I'm not comfortable in this situation.

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Okay.

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So if Tina doesn't mind.

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Sure.

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So last week on...

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Monday, we received an email from the superintendent of the Supervisory Union

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saying that he was closing the library for the next three weeks

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during our Tuesday and Thursday hours that coincide with the school day.

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So from 12 to 3 for the next three weeks.

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He said that he was going to close the library,

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and it was going to be used for a testing place for the students.

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And so we scheduled...

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We scheduled an emergency meeting and met and discussed,

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and then we created a reply and sent that back to him saying...

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Giving a few reasons and some...

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Just some validation for why we thought that was a bad idea.

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It was significant.

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It was about 40% of our hours were being reduced for that three-week period,

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and we felt like they've been doing state testing for years

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and have never needed to utilize...

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the library space.

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Also, the state allocates a three-week testing window.

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So from today for the next three academic weeks,

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they could be scheduling the testing any time.

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And so if they couldn't manage testing schedule without the library,

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they could have easily scheduled for days that we were not open.

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They could have used Monday, Wednesday, Friday as their testing days.

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So we said...

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Well, we also have a place for requesting use of the library.

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So we also asked, you know, like,

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you can follow our procedure if you want and we'll review the request,

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but we're not going to close for the next three weeks.

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And he replied that we were, in fact, going to close.

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And so that's when we reached out to contact you guys

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because we're not sure how to move forward.

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He also brought up in his correspondence a couple different...

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points, but one of them is...

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This is the second time he's mentioned it.

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The other time was verbally.

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But in writing this time, he referenced the Reedsboro Library,

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which is...

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Well, we know their situation is changing right now

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since their school is going to be closing,

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but the supervisory union no longer allows the Reedsboro Library

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to be open any time that the school is in operation.

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And that exceeds their 3 o'clock time...

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So they're only allowed to be open from 5 to 7

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because of the WINGS program and the after-school programming.

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So that greatly reduced their hours.

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And so in the letter, he brought up Reedsboro and said,

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well, you have the exact wording.

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Yeah.

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So he doesn't have authority over the town library, as far as I know.

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So that's one of my questions I'm going to ask you right away is,

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when he...

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When they closed the Reedsboro Library,

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the supervisory union came in and said, it's closed.

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Yeah, actually...

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How did that go about with the slut men up there?

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Cindy, we talked...

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I talked to Cindy, and she has a lot more details

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because she is the librarian up there.

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But I guess seven or eight years ago,

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their school actually got signed over to that building, rather,

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got signed over to the school.

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Like, now that they're closing, it actually has to be...

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The ownership of the building has to be...

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The ownership of the building has to be transferred back to the town.

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Separate system.

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He referenced that twice.

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Once, like I said, was verbally to me.

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It was...

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I don't know if it was during open meeting.

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No, it was not.

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It wasn't.

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Yeah.

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So he...

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But he did say...

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He has said that to me before,

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that he would close us during school hours.

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And that was when I was asking for a key to the bathroom

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because back in November or December, November, maybe...

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They changed the lock.

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They changed the lock on us.

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We had been using a key.

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And this was, oh, my gosh, probably five or six years ago.

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We went to the school board and we asked them

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if we could have a key to that door,

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which is locked, obviously, during school time,

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but so that we could utilize...

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We could access the bathrooms when the school is closed.

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How did you find out about the lock being changed?

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Just because you went to use it or did they tell you?

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No, I think she did tell us they were changing it.

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We know.

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We never were instructed.

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We never were officially notified.

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I mean, just because I'm there and also I'm on this...

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I mean, if there was an emergency,

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you couldn't get through that door.

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It ended up being, I don't know if you recall,

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a few weeks ago there was an incident in town,

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a violence incident in town

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that caused some feelings of unsafety, I guess,

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on the part of some people within the school.

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So I think it was sort of a reaction to that.

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Nothing...

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We were never notified officially to the library

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that anything wasn't going to happen.

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I just knew because I'm there,

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because at the time I was on the school board.

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And I think initially we were under the assumption

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we would be given a key.

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They were saying that they were putting a lock...

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A two-sided lock so that it could be accessed by either side.

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I don't think...

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I mean, I could only speak for myself, I guess,

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but none of us thought that meant you're no longer going to have a key.

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Right, a two-sided lock with no key.

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They just want to have another...

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A different access to school.

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So do you have a two-sided lock now with no key?

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Is that correct?

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We have a key now.

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You have a key.

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Okay.

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We had to go to the school board meeting.

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I went to the school board meeting

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and had a discussion with them.

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The superintendent made it very clear

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that he is against the library having a key.

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He said that.

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And he also said to the school board,

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I can't tell you no,

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but my opinion is no, they should not have a key.

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But the school board did vote to give us a key.

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Okay.

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And I have a question for Cindy about the Reedsboro Library.

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Is it closed during school hours

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because the only access to the library is through the school?

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Yes.

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And so he did...

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Okay.

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He could do what he did to us

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because we didn't have our access

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and because somebody along the lines

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back seven, eight years ago

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that was on the school board

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transferred ownership

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of that building

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to the school district.

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Okay.

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So he is...

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Well, he isn't,

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but the school board's in charge.

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So they could actually sell...

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The school owns that building right now.

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They closed and they could sell that?

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They can't sell it.

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It's a townspeople.

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Okay.

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So in response to Kurt's point

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that he doesn't have the authority,

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that the school board has the authority,

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he's also in his email

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made the point that it was a school board.

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But he's speaking on their behalf

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without their permission.

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And this is the first month

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that I am not on the school board.

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So the timing is rather convenient.

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Now, maybe you know...

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How much of the library is supported on the town

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and how much is supported via the school?

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Roughly two-thirds is a town.

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One-third is a school.

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Is that...

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I don't know.

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I'm not familiar.

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I did.

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I opened up the town report.

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One-third town.

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And if you review previous school budgets,

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well, they do...

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If you budget for it,

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many years there once go unspent.

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And then it goes...

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Well, hypothetically,

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without the town, the library is not...

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Oh, without the town,

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the library cannot function.

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But this one exists.

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Your third budget is kind of strange

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because...

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Do you want a library or not?

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They spent $2,500 in librarian cost

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last year.

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They budgeted $11,000.

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They budgeted $11,000 again this year

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and next year for $2,700.

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They budgeted $17,000.

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Mm-hmm.

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No idea whether...

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Right.

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And the purchase that was made,

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that was all actually done by Danielle.

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So on her...

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On the town library side,

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Danielle took the time to create a book order

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because, again, they weren't going to...

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They were spending no monies.

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That's where the money went?

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Yes.

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Do they have a school librarian?

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Yes.

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There have been years where they haven't.

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They...

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In the last couple of years,

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they have had someone consider...

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But in pre...

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But even...

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Even when...

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I also did it.

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The other one I wanted to meet.

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Well, can I ask a question?

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Yes.

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Is there any other day

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that could be used for testing?

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Why do they say Tuesday and Thursday?

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They do.

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They have a three-week window.

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Why don't they use the gym?

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They also have...

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They have three classrooms.

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They have...

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The principal's...

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The principal's office is a classroom.

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Yes.

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The special ed,

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which normally would be utilized for any child

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that's on 504 or an IEP,

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they would more than likely be testing

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separately from the classroom.

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Yes.

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And they also have...

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They also have...

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They also have...

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They also have...

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They also have...

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They also have...

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They also have...

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They also have a classroom group

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in a one-on-one situation

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or a small group situation.

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They have that.

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They have the music and art room.

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Music and art is only,

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I think,

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one or two days away.

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Where's the music and art room?

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It's now located...

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Way down?

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The last...

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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It has moved,

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but it's now located

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at the far end

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of the middle school area.

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So that is three large,

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empty,

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you know...

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Why not the gym?

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It seems awful.

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They also have the morning,

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9 to 12,

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of Tuesday and Thursday.

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And...

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And...

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And...

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And...

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So there's 81 hours a week

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where they can use the lock.

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Oh, and the point I wanted to make before

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was that

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when the relies was installed,

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I started noticing that

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the library

305
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was being utilized

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on days that were not Wednesday,

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which is the day in the past,

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the only day that it's been used

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by the school.

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It, you know,

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there started being

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more trash every day.

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There started being

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things left behind.

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Kids were clearly using it.

316
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So you know,

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staff was clearly using it, I would come in and somebody would knock on the door and I

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would say, I'm sorry, I don't have the key.

319
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But it was like a staff member thinking a student and somebody else was in the room.

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So since the double lock was installed, they had clearly started utilizing it on non-library

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days.

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The other point is that we are a municipal library, even though we are located within

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what is considered the school building, we are not considered part of the school.

324
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And I did reach out to the Department of Libraries and they confirmed that.

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I think that one of the things that I found disturbing about this is just the assumption

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on the part of the superintendent that this is his space personally.

327
00:12:16,190 --> 00:12:18,350
Well, it seems like a power play to make it his space.

328
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And that there was no interest in trying to find a collaborative solution.

329
00:12:23,070 --> 00:12:25,850
There was no interest in trying to find any other space.

330
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It was just, this is what we're doing because I say this is what we're doing.

331
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It's a move on the library.

332
00:12:30,669 --> 00:12:32,909
It seems like he already had a trial run on Reedsboro.

333
00:12:33,129 --> 00:12:33,370
Yes.

334
00:12:33,649 --> 00:12:33,929
Pam.

335
00:12:33,929 --> 00:12:36,210
I think I also will speak with you early through today.

336
00:12:37,409 --> 00:12:44,970
So I hate to bring this up, but I'm sure you're going to remember, Mike, back in about 2019,

337
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2020, the very, very beginning of COVID, one of the last meetings that we had here at the

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school.

339
00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:51,990
Yep.

340
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And the entire meeting was discussing how the...

341
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The state had decided that this entire school property, and I made the school board admit

342
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that they were talking about between the road and the river, the entire property was off

343
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limits during school hours and even on Saturdays and Sundays, if there was anything going on.

344
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And all of a sudden, this is starting to feel like that again.

345
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I mean, I remember him saying that.

346
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I also remember.

347
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I remember us disagreeing, or at least I was, and it was always, and Bill remembers, with

348
00:13:31,870 --> 00:13:40,250
the ownership and so on, and it is a power struggle, and someone mentioned compromise.

349
00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:43,110
This guy is not compromising at all.

350
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I mean, the only reason, we were, the town was about ready to go to war over this, and

351
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what happened was COVID came, the meeting stopped, and the whole thing just died.

352
00:13:56,250 --> 00:13:56,370
Right.

353
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And now, all of a sudden, here we are, back again, six years later, five years later.

354
00:14:01,230 --> 00:14:09,620
One thing I want to ask is, so these emails and all this communication, I don't see anything

355
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from the school board.

356
00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:16,000
Our representatives for the town, to the school, what's going on with that?

357
00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:22,720
I reached out to one school board member after, and I said, have you been made aware of what

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happened at the library?

359
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,679
And he said, we were directly instructed.

360
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We were directly instructed at the last school board meeting to forward any questions about

361
00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,559
the library directly to the school board.

362
00:14:34,779 --> 00:14:39,899
So he can go through them and decide what he wants to send out and what he doesn't?

363
00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:40,820
That's what they want.

364
00:14:40,820 --> 00:14:42,460
That's just a violation.

365
00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:42,960
Right.

366
00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,460
I mean, if he's moving on to the library now, it's only a matter of time before he comes

367
00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:47,259
for the town office.

368
00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:47,460
Yeah.

369
00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:47,960
Absolutely.

370
00:14:48,259 --> 00:14:48,659
Okay.

371
00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:49,799
I mean, he's going to come for the whole school.

372
00:14:49,860 --> 00:14:50,100
Gene.

373
00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:51,500
Gene.

374
00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:53,019
Can I ask a couple questions?

375
00:14:53,259 --> 00:14:53,519
No.

376
00:14:53,820 --> 00:14:55,039
No, I'm just kidding.

377
00:14:55,039 --> 00:14:55,220
Yeah.

378
00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,039
When did the library become a municipal library?

379
00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,139
A municipal library and not a community library?

380
00:15:01,070 --> 00:15:02,809
I don't know the exact date.

381
00:15:02,929 --> 00:15:09,419
I did reach out to Carol, and I want to say she said it was between 75 and 80.

382
00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:12,350
She didn't have an exact date.

383
00:15:12,350 --> 00:15:15,269
No, that's when it was clarified as a community library.

384
00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:17,379
And we had a board.

385
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:26,940
The board consisted of two library trustees, two school board members, and the principal

386
00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:28,279
and the librarian.

387
00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:28,700
Yes.

388
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And we met.

389
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She said annually.

390
00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:36,820
No, it was, I would say it was at least twice a year we would meet.

391
00:15:36,899 --> 00:15:42,240
And we always met if there was a hiring situation, and it was well after that.

392
00:15:43,379 --> 00:15:49,860
So, I feel like that has been, we had one of the few community libraries in the state

393
00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:53,360
that we were truly classified as a community library.

394
00:15:54,259 --> 00:15:57,519
Our librarian had to be a certified teacher.

395
00:15:58,340 --> 00:15:58,700
Okay.

396
00:15:58,700 --> 00:15:58,759
Okay.

397
00:15:58,759 --> 00:15:58,820
Okay.

398
00:15:58,820 --> 00:15:58,840
Okay.

399
00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:58,899
Okay.

400
00:15:58,899 --> 00:15:58,919
Okay.

401
00:15:58,919 --> 00:15:58,940
Okay.

402
00:15:58,940 --> 00:15:58,960
Okay.

403
00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:59,000
Okay.

404
00:15:59,000 --> 00:15:59,039
Okay.

405
00:15:59,039 --> 00:15:59,100
Okay.

406
00:15:59,100 --> 00:15:59,159
Okay.

407
00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:02,860
We had to teach library science to children.

408
00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:09,559
I think that, not to jump in, but I think that is where it becomes prohibitive, because

409
00:16:09,559 --> 00:16:14,240
now a library, it's a master's degree at minimum.

410
00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:14,799
Right.

411
00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:15,399
So, we wouldn't.

412
00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:18,700
It wasn't to, I mean, Carol got in with.

413
00:16:19,899 --> 00:16:20,440
Right.

414
00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:21,279
But Trish didn't.

415
00:16:21,620 --> 00:16:22,179
She was.

416
00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:22,820
No.

417
00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:23,159
I don't.

418
00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,240
I think we applied.

419
00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,700
She said that she was going to pursue it.

420
00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:27,899
Yeah.

421
00:16:27,899 --> 00:16:28,919
And we went with it.

422
00:16:28,919 --> 00:16:31,620
Yeah, but I think on the community side.

423
00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:35,210
So are we no longer a community library?

424
00:16:35,210 --> 00:16:36,450
I guess that's my question.

425
00:16:36,450 --> 00:16:39,250
According to the state we are, that's what they have.

426
00:16:39,250 --> 00:16:44,110
They have us as a community library still.

427
00:16:44,110 --> 00:16:47,230
That I would, and it would be my opinion, and nobody cares,

428
00:16:47,230 --> 00:16:52,840
I'm sure, that there is jurisdiction of the town,

429
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,620
equal jurisdiction with the town and the school.

430
00:16:57,620 --> 00:16:58,940
Well, I agree.

431
00:16:58,940 --> 00:17:07,539
My point with the public library is the town votes on it.

432
00:17:07,539 --> 00:17:11,099
The board, you set your budget.

433
00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:16,180
The board is in charge of decision making.

434
00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:19,180
And the school has nothing to do with that.

435
00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:22,359
When you were talking about funding

436
00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,579
in the salaries of the librarians and so on,

437
00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:29,259
they have no, in my opinion, this is an opinion,

438
00:17:29,259 --> 00:17:31,740
but I'm going to find out, they have no right

439
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:35,380
to take your livelihood away.

440
00:17:35,380 --> 00:17:37,920
If, no matter what that number is,

441
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,700
they shouldn't be able to do that.

442
00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:43,259
I mean, if you're relying on that to pay your oil this week

443
00:17:43,259 --> 00:17:46,380
and it doesn't come in, that's wrong.

444
00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:51,839
I also have had, I guess you want to call it a run in,

445
00:17:51,839 --> 00:17:54,619
a couple times now with the superintendent.

446
00:17:54,619 --> 00:17:59,619
Even at the school board, or the school side of the meeting,

447
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,619
town meeting, I asked a question.

448
00:18:01,619 --> 00:18:05,630
He rolled his eyes like he was bothered.

449
00:18:05,630 --> 00:18:08,109
He brought us around, I think you were there with this,

450
00:18:08,109 --> 00:18:15,390
all these mandates of what he wanted to do with safety.

451
00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:17,789
And in the name of safety, made a statement

452
00:18:17,789 --> 00:18:20,829
that these all need to be done when we told him go ahead,

453
00:18:20,829 --> 00:18:22,549
but we're not paying for it.

454
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:23,470
Nothing got done.

455
00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:29,839
But it was, he does come across as it's his way or no way.

456
00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:34,700
He made a statement that he couldn't tell the school board no,

457
00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:35,640
but he had an opinion.

458
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,299
That right there shows you he's got that little bit of fear

459
00:18:40,299 --> 00:18:42,660
that he knows he's doing something wrong.

460
00:18:42,660 --> 00:18:46,160
That all being said, this group of people here

461
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,440
wanted to stay open, correct?

462
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,319
Everybody here.

463
00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:50,910
Yeah.

464
00:18:50,910 --> 00:18:55,670
I suggested this board immediately writes him an email,

465
00:18:55,670 --> 00:18:56,890
because I don't want to mail it out,

466
00:18:56,890 --> 00:18:59,490
I want to email so he gets it right away.

467
00:19:00,730 --> 00:19:04,019
The library will be open.

468
00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:06,859
And there is procedure for him to go through

469
00:19:06,859 --> 00:19:14,000
if he wants to use the library space, the town library space.

470
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,799
When he goes through that, you people

471
00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:18,079
can decide whether or not you want to let him.

472
00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:20,819
But for him to mandate and demand,

473
00:19:20,819 --> 00:19:22,779
without going through procedure, just

474
00:19:22,779 --> 00:19:24,319
like we have to go through procedure

475
00:19:24,319 --> 00:19:27,539
when we use things over there, he's

476
00:19:27,539 --> 00:19:30,859
in violation of our procedure.

477
00:19:30,859 --> 00:19:31,880
And for him to come in.

478
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,480
And just mandate, he's going to do this.

479
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,900
And again, what's next?

480
00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:38,500
He comes in and says, OK, we're taking this space over next.

481
00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:39,720
Just testing the waters.

482
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,640
It's wrong.

483
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,819
I mean, you think that if he really just

484
00:19:43,819 --> 00:19:48,019
wanted to have a good relationship with the town,

485
00:19:48,019 --> 00:19:50,079
then he would not be approaching it.

486
00:19:50,079 --> 00:19:53,599
It's alarming that he is approaching it in this manner.

487
00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:54,200
That's right.

488
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:59,759
And even his response to your response sounded a little evil.

489
00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:00,759
Heavy, heavy, heavy too.

490
00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:01,259
A little evil.

491
00:20:01,259 --> 00:20:01,759
A little evil.

492
00:20:01,759 --> 00:20:03,519
I mean, I didn't think you were letting him do that.

493
00:20:03,519 --> 00:20:06,519
Your plan was to get him out and figure out what his game is.

494
00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:07,019
Yeah.

495
00:20:07,019 --> 00:20:07,519
OK.

496
00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:09,359
And what it is that he thinks is going to exist.

497
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,400
Fire the first shot, see what happens.

498
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,400
Follow the protocol.

499
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,319
What time is the library open on Tuesday and Thursday?

500
00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:16,700
It's 12.

501
00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:17,200
12?

502
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,880
It's from 12 to 6.

503
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,119
12 to 6.

504
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,980
So when I sent that second email to them about the policy

505
00:20:26,980 --> 00:20:30,700
that we have, they did send a completed form back to us

506
00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,220
that was filled out by the principal.

507
00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:40,470
But it came from him to us, and that's when we sort of got in touch

508
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:42,069
with the folks because we weren't.

509
00:20:42,069 --> 00:20:44,509
So they did fill out the form, but they didn't do it first.

510
00:20:44,509 --> 00:20:45,009
OK.

511
00:20:45,009 --> 00:20:48,950
And they said, she said, I have read the policy,

512
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:51,710
but they sent it to me, and the policy

513
00:20:51,710 --> 00:20:54,329
says send it to the librarian.

514
00:20:54,329 --> 00:20:56,990
Well, and also, just submitting the form doesn't mean that we.

515
00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:57,490
Exactly.

516
00:20:57,490 --> 00:20:57,990
Right.

517
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:59,490
The permission wasn't granted.

518
00:20:59,490 --> 00:20:59,990
Right.

519
00:20:59,990 --> 00:21:00,490
Right.

520
00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:02,569
And his statement, though, in that second,

521
00:21:02,569 --> 00:21:08,700
second email is, I'm filling the form out for your records,

522
00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,799
but we are closing the library.

523
00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:11,299
Yes.

524
00:21:11,299 --> 00:21:13,059
No, we don't act on demand.

525
00:21:13,059 --> 00:21:13,559
OK.

526
00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:15,619
So we should send something back saying,

527
00:21:15,619 --> 00:21:19,019
we understand there's other rooms available.

528
00:21:19,019 --> 00:21:21,099
How many children are going to be in there?

529
00:21:21,099 --> 00:21:22,859
Are they testing on there?

530
00:21:22,859 --> 00:21:26,099
That's another point I'd make to somebody.

531
00:21:26,099 --> 00:21:29,240
Half of the library, 3 quarters of the library is books.

532
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:29,740
Yeah.

533
00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:31,460
You've got one for all of the accommodate,

534
00:21:31,460 --> 00:21:32,660
because there needs to be.

535
00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:35,119
There needs to be a certain amount of spacing.

536
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,420
And if they're using it for a group or individual,

537
00:21:38,420 --> 00:21:41,119
I would say anywhere from one to six children.

538
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,619
I was going to say six the most.

539
00:21:42,619 --> 00:21:44,039
I would say one to three.

540
00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:46,579
Yeah, I would say five, but yeah.

541
00:21:46,579 --> 00:21:48,900
No more than the bathroom accommodations.

542
00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:49,400
OK.

543
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,319
Come on.

544
00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:52,779
And if you want, I can read you the wording that came in.

545
00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:55,079
The whole thing just seems like a way to test the waters.

546
00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:56,579
Like, I've got this testing coming up.

547
00:21:56,579 --> 00:21:57,920
I want to take control of the library.

548
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,039
Let's just throw this out there.

549
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:00,460
Yeah, you could take half the gym.

550
00:22:00,460 --> 00:22:02,460
Well, if you need to read his original memo,

551
00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:04,960
it says, reschedule your hours.

552
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,019
Yes, I read it.

553
00:22:06,019 --> 00:22:08,079
Yeah, the whole thing is just written.

554
00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:10,920
Now, the other thing is, you mentioned the form.

555
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,900
We have to go through the form, fill it out every year

556
00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:16,440
to use the gym.

557
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,930
That and, Danielle, I caught your disease, too.

558
00:22:20,930 --> 00:22:23,269
I can't remember my second point.

559
00:22:23,269 --> 00:22:25,430
Just a little wording that came from the state

560
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:28,029
does say, according to our records,

561
00:22:28,029 --> 00:22:30,250
Stanford is a municipal library, notwithstanding

562
00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:32,089
its location within the school.

563
00:22:32,089 --> 00:22:32,789
That is correct.

564
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:33,549
And I think most of the students

565
00:22:33,549 --> 00:22:35,049
of the time, that is the case for what

566
00:22:35,049 --> 00:22:37,150
are sometimes called community libraries.

567
00:22:37,150 --> 00:22:39,849
There may actually be something in writing

568
00:22:39,849 --> 00:22:41,849
about the public library needing to be open

569
00:22:41,849 --> 00:22:45,130
and local citizens having a right to library services.

570
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:46,849
I don't know that would be available locally,

571
00:22:46,849 --> 00:22:49,990
but you could look in articles voted on, library by bus,

572
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:53,509
minutes, relevant board meetings might be historic and hard

573
00:22:53,509 --> 00:22:55,410
to find, but not necessarily.

574
00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:57,410
If you could find something about the town voting

575
00:22:57,410 --> 00:23:01,089
to have a library, there might be some language there.

576
00:23:01,089 --> 00:23:02,369
I mean, we paid for it to be open.

577
00:23:02,369 --> 00:23:04,029
Well, the library when the school was built,

578
00:23:04,029 --> 00:23:05,789
the library was out there.

579
00:23:05,789 --> 00:23:08,789
That was it.

580
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:10,529
Heidi, do you have a question?

581
00:23:10,529 --> 00:23:11,029
Heidi.

582
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:13,990
I just wanted to say, when my kids were in this school,

583
00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:17,410
there weren't fewer, there weren't more students then,

584
00:23:17,410 --> 00:23:19,329
there weren't fewer students then.

585
00:23:19,329 --> 00:23:21,849
And the number of classrooms, the number

586
00:23:21,849 --> 00:23:25,039
of rooms in the school hadn't changed.

587
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:26,559
This wasn't an issue.

588
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,220
We didn't have to take over the library.

589
00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:30,559
In fact, there were public hours, I believe, at the time,

590
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:32,759
because I was in the library a bunch of the time

591
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:34,119
when the school was open.

592
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,839
Yeah, I understand that I have public library hours right now,

593
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:39,180
so it was even more.

594
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:40,079
Absolutely.

595
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,539
There was a day when we never discussed whether the library

596
00:23:42,539 --> 00:23:43,940
belonged to the town or the school.

597
00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:44,240
No.

598
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:44,579
Right.

599
00:23:44,579 --> 00:23:46,279
I mean, if this wasn't a conversation.

600
00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,859
We suddenly don't have enough space to do testing,

601
00:23:48,859 --> 00:23:50,099
is absurd to me.

602
00:23:50,099 --> 00:23:50,599
Right.

603
00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:53,720
I mean, it's like you said, as you had a key at your house.

604
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,519
Sure, yeah.

605
00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:55,720
We had the key to the whole thing.

606
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,400
I know times have changed, but come on.

607
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,180
I agree with Pam.

608
00:23:59,180 --> 00:24:02,119
We should just say, you know, come in and say, hey,

609
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,619
we're going to be having some testing.

610
00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:04,880
Right.

611
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,160
And you think it's possible if you could change your hours

612
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,480
and notify the public.

613
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,839
And then, you know, instead of having it on a Wednesday

614
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:14,759
or whatever you have it on, do it on a Monday.

615
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:15,259
Absolutely.

616
00:24:15,259 --> 00:24:15,759
Yeah.

617
00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:16,259
Right.

618
00:24:16,259 --> 00:24:19,140
And I spoke with Carol ,, she was very supportive.

619
00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:21,059
And she was going to try to meet here tonight,

620
00:24:21,059 --> 00:24:22,380
but something came up.

621
00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:24,539
But she said, you know, I said, is there

622
00:24:24,539 --> 00:24:26,259
anything in writing that you can think of?

623
00:24:26,259 --> 00:24:28,140
And she basically said what the state said,

624
00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:30,180
that maybe there's something in minutes or bylaws

625
00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:30,980
or something.

626
00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:32,900
But she said it was always just about collaboration.

627
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:34,339
A gentleman's agreement.

628
00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:35,500
We tried to get along.

629
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:39,380
People, like she said, they got together a couple times a year.

630
00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:42,059
And we talked, and if there was an issue, we talked it out.

631
00:24:42,059 --> 00:24:43,480
Right.

632
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:50,319
We've had testing in here one morning when I was closed.

633
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:50,940
I said, fine.

634
00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:53,619
It seems like you can find space for five kids

635
00:24:53,619 --> 00:24:55,000
that are going to be coming up.

636
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,819
It's later than this one little testing.

637
00:24:56,819 --> 00:24:57,319
Sure.

638
00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:58,660
We're talking about three kids.

639
00:24:58,660 --> 00:25:00,700
I mean, you can find space for them.

640
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:03,779
They're going to push for the entire,

641
00:25:03,779 --> 00:25:07,380
or they're seeing how far they can go to do something

642
00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:09,380
with the school in general.

643
00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:11,579
Well, because of all the things that are going on,

644
00:25:11,579 --> 00:25:15,119
and not just for a closing, there may be some forward thought

645
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,220
that we're not privy to.

646
00:25:17,220 --> 00:25:21,599
But I mean, you just would not do the things that he's doing.

647
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:23,099
And it may be just this one guy.

648
00:25:23,099 --> 00:25:23,599
Who knows?

649
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,420
It might be just him, and he's doing everything on a slide.

650
00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:27,920
Who knows?

651
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,740
I don't know.

652
00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:30,259
Laurie has a question.

653
00:25:30,259 --> 00:25:33,599
Don't they say that kids learn better in the morning?

654
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,299
That if you wanted the best outcome for your kids,

655
00:25:36,299 --> 00:25:38,559
you would want to test from 9 to 12?

656
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:41,059
That is when they're scheduled.

657
00:25:41,059 --> 00:25:43,740
I've been involved in the school in varying capacities

658
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:45,500
for almost 20 years now.

659
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,680
I'm going on the fourth kid here.

660
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,500
I currently have three here.

661
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:51,559
I know a lot about the ins and outs.

662
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:54,059
I almost have a master's in education.

663
00:25:54,059 --> 00:25:57,740
I know a lot about the ins and outs of school testing,

664
00:25:57,740 --> 00:25:58,559
all that.

665
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:02,950
It would be incredibly weird to test in the afternoon.

666
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:03,589
Kids are tired.

667
00:26:03,589 --> 00:26:06,690
They're not at their best.

668
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:11,089
So even that alone.

669
00:26:11,089 --> 00:26:12,470
Do all grades test?

670
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:14,470
Or is it just sort of .

671
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:16,150
I have the schedule of testing.

672
00:26:16,150 --> 00:26:20,329
And I think it's maybe seven days out of a possible three

673
00:26:20,329 --> 00:26:20,829
weeks.

674
00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:22,930
So they have the three-week window.

675
00:26:22,930 --> 00:26:26,990
And every single one except for one day is Tuesday, Thursday.

676
00:26:26,990 --> 00:26:31,609
So it would be easily, Tuesday, Thursday might be best for them

677
00:26:31,609 --> 00:26:33,329
if they want the absolute highest.

678
00:26:33,329 --> 00:26:38,529
So it's not Monday, it's not Friday, you're not getting kids coming

679
00:26:38,529 --> 00:26:42,369
from an exhausting weekend or, you know, Friday.

680
00:26:42,369 --> 00:26:43,230
I get it.

681
00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:46,700
But also, there's plenty of opportunity

682
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,279
to change your schedule around.

683
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,119
Or use the space you already have,

684
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,279
which you've done for the last however many years.

685
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,539
I was going to say, where did they test last year?

686
00:26:55,539 --> 00:26:59,160
Even if they get all of the elementary school kids out

687
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,720
of Reedsboro next year, they will not be larger.

688
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,319
They're going to be larger than what this school was built for.

689
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:11,119
Over a hundred and fifteen years ago or so.

690
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,920
So they've got to fit.

691
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,220
More than that building.

692
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:14,660
Caroline?

693
00:27:14,660 --> 00:27:15,720
All right, 25.

694
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,220
Two brief comments.

695
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:22,480
One is a concern over obviously setting the precedent.

696
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:28,710
If this gets the way on this one, then it's wide open

697
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:32,210
for any other thing that can be .

698
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:32,849
They find you useful.

699
00:27:32,849 --> 00:27:38,990
So, you know, it's kind of a line in the sand.

700
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:41,710
The other is, what's the nuanced definition

701
00:27:41,710 --> 00:27:44,309
between municipal and community?

702
00:27:44,309 --> 00:27:45,049
Yeah, I wasn't.

703
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:46,589
I don't know.

704
00:27:46,589 --> 00:27:51,660
Previously, it was municipal was, school children were not allowed

705
00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:55,359
in during the day, if it was a municipal library.

706
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,420
There was no concern about the material being available

707
00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:03,420
that you might not want to have in the school library.

708
00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:06,579
I'm not talking about censorship, you know.

709
00:28:06,579 --> 00:28:07,680
Right, right, yeah.

710
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,579
But by the same token, there was certain discretion that was used.

711
00:28:14,579 --> 00:28:17,180
And that was a municipal library.

712
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:24,230
Then the community library was a combined school and public.

713
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:30,849
It was mentioned somewhere that an agreement of understanding.

714
00:28:30,849 --> 00:28:32,349
Does Reedsboro have that?

715
00:28:32,349 --> 00:28:33,150
Your library has it?

716
00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:34,650
That's because you've got to remember.

717
00:28:34,650 --> 00:28:37,670
They own the building.

718
00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:38,569
Okay, all right.

719
00:28:38,569 --> 00:28:43,509
So, if Waterfrost even be in there, he made us sign the lease.

720
00:28:43,509 --> 00:28:43,809
Okay.

721
00:28:43,809 --> 00:28:46,049
And he wanted to charge us rent.

722
00:28:46,049 --> 00:28:49,650
And the school part is like, you're out of your mind.

723
00:28:49,650 --> 00:28:50,509
Okay.

724
00:28:50,509 --> 00:28:54,029
Now, because the children, the school children never use

725
00:28:54,029 --> 00:28:56,289
that library, so it's completely the town.

726
00:28:56,289 --> 00:28:58,190
And therefore, the town should be paying.

727
00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:59,730
This wasn't the same style, right?

728
00:28:59,730 --> 00:29:00,750
Well, the school does use your library.

729
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:01,750
I don't know.

730
00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:03,089
Oh, it wasn't.

731
00:29:03,089 --> 00:29:04,230
Bill made that statement.

732
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:05,390
He wanted to charge you rent.

733
00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:06,630
Yeah.

734
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:09,789
So, he wants taxpayers to pay for it and then pay for it again.

735
00:29:09,789 --> 00:29:10,150
Yeah.

736
00:29:10,150 --> 00:29:11,630
Let's pay for it twice.

737
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:15,430
But the school board backed us up because I'm not so sure.

738
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:19,150
I'm not speaking on the board because I'm no longer on the board.

739
00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:23,529
Not because of any problem, but because I got a full plate.

740
00:29:23,529 --> 00:29:24,250
Yeah.

741
00:29:24,250 --> 00:29:32,660
But when you call up there, you're listed as a community library here, there.

742
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:36,059
There's like six left in the entire state.

743
00:29:36,059 --> 00:29:41,119
And at the time, ours was role modeled on this one,

744
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,359
because Carol Ethier was one of the people that did it up there.

745
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:51,660
And what it actually is, is there is a super board that does things,

746
00:29:51,660 --> 00:29:58,589
and they have things under their, what is their responsibility.

747
00:29:58,589 --> 00:30:04,589
And it's two trustees that are elected at the March meeting, after meeting,

748
00:30:04,589 --> 00:30:05,789
two school board members.

749
00:30:05,789 --> 00:30:11,789
And one community member that's appointed by the select board.

750
00:30:11,789 --> 00:30:13,549
Does that sound familiar?

751
00:30:13,549 --> 00:30:14,950
Yes, except we had.

752
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:18,190
And the principal was there in the library.

753
00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:19,930
That's not being done now.

754
00:30:19,930 --> 00:30:20,230
No.

755
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:21,789
Not here, it isn't.

756
00:30:21,789 --> 00:30:23,190
Up there, it still is.

757
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:25,329
I have no idea when it stopped.

758
00:30:25,329 --> 00:30:28,789
And out of all those members, the superintendent isn't at all.

759
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:30,789
It's not, no.

760
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:32,089
Okay.

761
00:30:32,089 --> 00:30:34,890
So, can I just make one last comment?

762
00:30:34,890 --> 00:30:34,990
Yeah.

763
00:30:34,990 --> 00:30:35,789
And that's that we have.

764
00:30:35,789 --> 00:30:40,490
We have ongoing programs that have been scheduled that fall in those hours

765
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:45,589
that kids are expecting and adults are expecting to be able to go

766
00:30:45,589 --> 00:30:49,450
and participate at the time that they agreed to.

767
00:30:49,450 --> 00:30:52,089
A while back, someone asked me, does the library get used.

768
00:30:52,089 --> 00:30:53,490
I don't go.

769
00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:54,089
I can't read.

770
00:30:54,089 --> 00:30:55,990
We would love to have you.

771
00:30:55,990 --> 00:31:01,019
But if, does the library get used every week?

772
00:31:01,019 --> 00:31:05,809
I'm running, that's, I'm working at the library, too.

773
00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:08,210
I'm Amy's mom.

774
00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:14,309
And I'm running a card game every Tuesday.

775
00:31:14,309 --> 00:31:16,970
And there were six of us there last Tuesday.

776
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:18,269
What card game?

777
00:31:18,269 --> 00:31:22,420
Magic the Gathering, if you've ever heard of it.

778
00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:22,960
No.

779
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,480
No, but if it was Texas, all the time.

780
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720
You might have heard of Pokemon.

781
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,079
Yeah.

782
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:31,819
It's on that sort of realm.

783
00:31:31,819 --> 00:31:32,240
Yeah.

784
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,779
And the kids know it.

785
00:31:33,779 --> 00:31:37,880
So, you know, on Tuesday, we started three.

786
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,779
So, you have children going after school to the library.

787
00:31:43,779 --> 00:31:44,279
Yes.

788
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:45,180
For the next three weeks.

789
00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:45,680
That's pretty impressive.

790
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,980
For the next three weeks.

791
00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:47,380
Yeah.

792
00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:47,680
That's impressive.

793
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,380
We got some pretty popular, like, we ran Lego programs.

794
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:54,680
I mean, we look at, at one point, I had like 22 kids

795
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,480
from like a third of the school here.

796
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,779
Wow.

797
00:31:56,779 --> 00:31:57,480
That's pretty good.

798
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,279
That is impressive.

799
00:31:58,279 --> 00:31:59,079
Yeah, that's good.

800
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:00,279
There are definitely times.

801
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,170
Better than sitting like this all day.

802
00:32:03,170 --> 00:32:04,970
They got picture books there, too.

803
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:05,869
Well, oh, do they?

804
00:32:05,869 --> 00:32:06,170
Yeah.

805
00:32:06,170 --> 00:32:06,569
All right.

806
00:32:06,569 --> 00:32:07,970
I do look at pictures.

807
00:32:08,170 --> 00:32:10,170
So, what do we want?

808
00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:12,920
We want to send it back by email.

809
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,119
We disagree with your decision to use the library

810
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,920
because you guys aren't going to let them in, right?

811
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,119
Disagree with your approach.

812
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:21,420
Yeah.

813
00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:23,119
Approach.

814
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:25,720
That's my final thing was.

815
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,819
Yes.

816
00:32:26,819 --> 00:32:29,920
You go there and they go, you're going to be closed.

817
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,519
Get out.

818
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:31,019
Yeah.

819
00:32:31,019 --> 00:32:32,119
Where do we go from there?

820
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:33,619
I know you're, you're tough.

821
00:32:33,619 --> 00:32:35,319
I know that.

822
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:36,119
Well, we don't want to.

823
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,519
Rewind and try a different approach.

824
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:42,819
I don't want to wait my hands on anyone, but.

825
00:32:42,819 --> 00:32:44,019
I'll fire you.

826
00:32:44,019 --> 00:32:47,420
But then they also don't, the board doesn't want to put you in a position that is.

827
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:48,819
Can we put another lock on the door?

828
00:32:48,819 --> 00:32:55,019
But that's what I'm saying is, if there's this confrontation, take your phone out and start recording it.

829
00:32:55,019 --> 00:32:57,319
And, you know, give me a call.

830
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:58,019
I'll show up.

831
00:32:58,019 --> 00:33:00,720
I have no problem with laying, and I'm better not saying anything.

832
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,220
I would just like to say something.

833
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:08,890
I've never backed down from a fight, but might it be worthwhile to compromise?

834
00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:10,289
For this time.

835
00:33:10,289 --> 00:33:16,690
At which point I would say I would support paying the librarians for the time that they're lost.

836
00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:21,289
And in some way try and get that back from the school department.

837
00:33:21,289 --> 00:33:26,690
And make it very clear that this is not something that we would tolerate happening again.

838
00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:28,390
Possibly, but I think you need to change the precedent.

839
00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:30,289
But we're set a precedent to start over and change it.

840
00:33:30,289 --> 00:33:37,789
And it's not, you know, I think everybody in this room would, would, would want to work with people.

841
00:33:37,789 --> 00:33:38,190
With people.

842
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:41,089
And want there to be a good working relationship.

843
00:33:41,089 --> 00:33:42,289
If the other side did.

844
00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:42,589
Right.

845
00:33:42,589 --> 00:33:46,589
But the problem is, is the way that this is coming off.

846
00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:47,289
Yeah.

847
00:33:47,289 --> 00:33:51,990
Is alarming, and you should, you, you should.

848
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:55,890
Like Carol said, if we let this go, you've set this precedent still.

849
00:33:55,890 --> 00:33:56,589
Okay.

850
00:33:56,589 --> 00:33:58,690
Well, they backed down, let it go.

851
00:33:58,690 --> 00:34:05,390
I just don't, I don't think that you can allow someone to demand that this is what is going to happen.

852
00:34:05,390 --> 00:34:07,490
And if you don't like it, oh well.

853
00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:10,289
I mean, I just don't think the town can allow that to happen.

854
00:34:10,289 --> 00:34:12,590
I'm, I'm very disappointed.

855
00:34:12,590 --> 00:34:20,289
And I know it's, it's not, I know that he was told, or he told the school board to go through him.

856
00:34:20,289 --> 00:34:21,989
But he shouldn't be able to do that either.

857
00:34:21,989 --> 00:34:25,690
I'm very disappointed in the school board not saying, well, wait a minute.

858
00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,590
Like he didn't even notify them of what was going on.

859
00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:29,190
No, I feel like.

860
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:32,389
There's no clarity on their, they have no idea what's going on.

861
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:36,489
Because I don't feel it has anything to do with testing or the library for that matter.

862
00:34:36,489 --> 00:34:36,789
Right.

863
00:34:36,789 --> 00:34:40,389
It's just him seeing how far he can get within this structure of this building.

864
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:42,590
That time we walked around the school and everything.

865
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:43,889
You were on the board at that time.

866
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:46,389
You guys were having a meeting that night.

867
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:50,619
You literally walked by us to go in to the meeting.

868
00:34:50,619 --> 00:34:55,119
And he never let the school board know that he was, him and the principal walked us around

869
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,320
and showed us all these concerns that they had about the school.

870
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,619
And the school board didn't even know it was happening.

871
00:35:01,619 --> 00:35:06,719
So that's another situation that he did that to where he.

872
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:13,519
He's obviously comfortable enough or confident enough just to feel he can dictate whatever it is that he wants to dictate.

873
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:14,920
Well, let's go back to the letter.

874
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,519
Is this going to be a situation tomorrow?

875
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:19,019
Yeah, it could be.

876
00:35:19,019 --> 00:35:19,519
It can be.

877
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:20,719
That's what I'm concerned about.

878
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,920
That email has to go out today.

879
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Absolutely.

880
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,420
Tonight.

881
00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:24,019
Boom.

882
00:35:24,019 --> 00:35:24,519
Right.

883
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:31,019
And in his reply, he uses the words like that this is a school board decision.

884
00:35:31,019 --> 00:35:33,519
But he has not even notified them what is going on.

885
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,320
And he's speaking on their behalf.

886
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,619
So even in the event.

887
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,619
That it is true that the school board gets to make that decision, which I don't agree with.

888
00:35:41,619 --> 00:35:45,519
But even if that were true, he's stepping.

889
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,019
Let them send us a letter.

890
00:35:47,019 --> 00:35:47,420
Right.

891
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:48,420
It's not coming from them.

892
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:50,920
They haven't even been notified what's going on.

893
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,219
He's taken over the board meetings.

894
00:35:53,219 --> 00:35:55,920
It's everything's got his name on it.

895
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,019
He runs the meetings now.

896
00:35:58,019 --> 00:36:00,219
You know, five years ago, that wasn't like that.

897
00:36:00,219 --> 00:36:02,719
I mean, the school board ran the meeting.

898
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,679
You know, and the superintendent and the principal were guests.

899
00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:07,280
Yes.

900
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,780
They were asked.

901
00:36:08,780 --> 00:36:12,289
They had their little time on the agenda.

902
00:36:12,289 --> 00:36:17,989
Let's remember that when, again, when this whole big brouhaha started right before COVID,

903
00:36:17,989 --> 00:36:20,590
it was about who owns the school.

904
00:36:20,590 --> 00:36:20,989
Yeah.

905
00:36:20,989 --> 00:36:23,869
And that was the thing.

906
00:36:23,869 --> 00:36:25,869
And there was attorneys involved.

907
00:36:25,869 --> 00:36:27,269
And one attorney says this.

908
00:36:27,269 --> 00:36:28,369
The other attorney says that.

909
00:36:28,369 --> 00:36:31,090
Yeah, I couldn't agree.

910
00:36:31,090 --> 00:36:32,190
And there is a law.

911
00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:37,889
There is a law on the responsibility or jurisdiction, you could call it.

912
00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:45,789
Of when school is in session, there is a law that within school property, they have the jurisdiction.

913
00:36:45,789 --> 00:36:47,889
There is a law, okay?

914
00:36:47,889 --> 00:36:52,949
But the ownership of the property, there was three separate deeds.

915
00:36:52,949 --> 00:36:58,550
And every one of the deeds said in different terms to townspeople.

916
00:36:58,550 --> 00:37:01,650
It might have been the residents one time, the town the other time.

917
00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:05,449
But it was always saying that the town owned it.

918
00:37:05,449 --> 00:37:08,050
The gymnasium was called the multi-

919
00:37:08,050 --> 00:37:09,250
Purpose room.

920
00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:10,550
Purpose room.

921
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:13,949
So it was, to me, that's what, you know, anybody can use it.

922
00:37:13,949 --> 00:37:19,150
Which, up until just recently, anybody could use it.

923
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:20,949
There were keys everywhere.

924
00:37:20,949 --> 00:37:22,449
And I went through that with you guys.

925
00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:27,250
I said, look it, there's basketball teams from North Adams that got keys to this place.

926
00:37:27,250 --> 00:37:28,750
Because one of them was my brother-in-law.

927
00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:30,050
I knew he had it.

928
00:37:30,050 --> 00:37:33,250
So, I mean, everybody had keys.

929
00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:35,050
Then all of a sudden, and the name is safety.

930
00:37:35,050 --> 00:37:37,349
And I understand that people are nervous.

931
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:37,849
And I understand.

932
00:37:37,849 --> 00:37:39,650
I understand it's a different world.

933
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:42,449
But, and this is an opinion, I'm sure.

934
00:37:42,449 --> 00:37:44,150
But there's no safety there.

935
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:45,750
That safety is not there.

936
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:46,750
There's glass windows.

937
00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:47,650
There's open doors.

938
00:37:47,650 --> 00:37:49,750
There's, you know, kids playing out yard.

939
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:54,150
I mean, God forbid anything happens, there really is no safety.

940
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:56,050
One little red door with a lock on it.

941
00:37:56,050 --> 00:37:57,349
So I can stop in it.

942
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:59,250
The door is open.

943
00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:07,300
But the question is, the question is what rights can the school, as they wanted to, make this entire property,

944
00:38:08,099 --> 00:38:14,099
property from the road to the river off limits. Off limits.

945
00:38:14,099 --> 00:38:23,099
One of the things that can happen, and they will, they can push that, and I'll admit, they have the money, they have the resources, the town doesn't.

946
00:38:23,099 --> 00:38:31,099
We just don't have the resources to fight it. But one thing that we do have in our back pocket is we vote on a budget.

947
00:38:31,099 --> 00:38:35,099
I was going to say, if they don't have the school warrant passed every year...

948
00:38:35,099 --> 00:38:41,099
We just say no. Now the school shuts down. Then they don't own the property anymore.

949
00:38:41,099 --> 00:38:49,099
By rights, the town office and the library should not be with the school the way the schools are set up.

950
00:38:49,099 --> 00:38:54,099
They don't want us here. They don't want the library here. They don't want the town office here.

951
00:38:54,099 --> 00:38:59,099
They want their own property that they can secure. And I can understand that.

952
00:38:59,099 --> 00:39:05,230
I mean, if it was up to me, the town office and the library would be here.

953
00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:12,230
They would be somewhere else. They would not be here. But that's a whole other conversation.

954
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:17,230
And they wouldn't be able to afford to run a library without the shared...

955
00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:21,230
For this afternoon, you need to compose the email.

956
00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:28,489
We disagree with your approach on how you approach the library trustees or whoever you wrote to.

957
00:39:28,489 --> 00:39:33,489
And we understand there could have been other combinations.

958
00:39:33,489 --> 00:39:34,489
There can be.

959
00:39:34,489 --> 00:39:35,489
And...

960
00:39:35,489 --> 00:39:42,449
And then tomorrow, 3.31, the library will be open as usual from 12 to 6.

961
00:39:42,449 --> 00:39:43,449
To the public?

962
00:39:43,449 --> 00:39:47,309
To the public. Per select board.

963
00:39:47,309 --> 00:39:54,309
Well, I don't think we can say per select board because we don't have any jurisdiction over them.

964
00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:58,050
But this is our opinion, our support.

965
00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:04,619
For library bylaws or... I mean, we exist.

966
00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:07,619
We're supporting you, but I don't think we have any control over them.

967
00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:08,619
We have control over the town portion of the library, don't we?

968
00:40:08,619 --> 00:40:11,619
I think I need a book tomorrow afternoon.

969
00:40:11,619 --> 00:40:13,619
I think you do. You do have control.

970
00:40:13,619 --> 00:40:15,619
It might be my first time to the library tomorrow.

971
00:40:15,619 --> 00:40:16,619
Your own trust needs.

972
00:40:16,619 --> 00:40:17,619
What time is it open?

973
00:40:17,619 --> 00:40:18,619
12 o'clock.

974
00:40:18,619 --> 00:40:20,619
Yeah, but you still have oversight over us.

975
00:40:20,619 --> 00:40:22,619
Over the town portion of it.

976
00:40:22,619 --> 00:40:27,619
Because we couldn't just decide we were going to, like, add another door and do it.

977
00:40:27,619 --> 00:40:29,619
Well, that has to do with the building.

978
00:40:29,619 --> 00:40:32,619
But I think you do have control over us.

979
00:40:32,619 --> 00:40:33,619
I would think.

980
00:40:33,619 --> 00:40:34,619
I don't know my answer to you.

981
00:40:34,619 --> 00:40:35,619
Yeah.

982
00:40:35,619 --> 00:40:37,619
Yeah, not really because you're elected.

983
00:40:37,619 --> 00:40:38,619
Right.

984
00:40:38,619 --> 00:40:39,619
Yeah.

985
00:40:39,619 --> 00:40:40,619
But overall in your own...

986
00:40:40,619 --> 00:40:41,619
Right.

987
00:40:41,619 --> 00:40:42,619
Right.

988
00:40:42,619 --> 00:40:43,619
I'm saying just control over the town portion of the library itself.

989
00:40:43,619 --> 00:40:44,619
We just want to support you.

990
00:40:44,619 --> 00:40:45,619
Right.

991
00:40:45,619 --> 00:40:46,619
Not over any individuals or anything like that.

992
00:40:46,619 --> 00:40:47,619
But we...

993
00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:48,619
I mean, we control the town portion.

994
00:40:48,619 --> 00:40:49,619
Do we now?

995
00:40:49,619 --> 00:40:50,619
Just like the cemetery.

996
00:40:50,619 --> 00:40:51,619
No, not really.

997
00:40:51,619 --> 00:40:52,619
The trustees do.

998
00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:53,619
Yeah.

999
00:40:53,619 --> 00:40:54,619
We don't really...

1000
00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:55,619
The trustees are not under the select board.

1001
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:56,619
No.

1002
00:40:56,619 --> 00:40:57,619
They're a separate board.

1003
00:40:57,619 --> 00:40:58,619
Right.

1004
00:40:58,619 --> 00:40:59,619
They have their own budget.

1005
00:40:59,619 --> 00:41:00,619
They defend their own budget.

1006
00:41:00,619 --> 00:41:01,619
They're elected by the public.

1007
00:41:01,619 --> 00:41:02,619
Did you stall the committee?

1008
00:41:02,619 --> 00:41:03,619
No.

1009
00:41:03,619 --> 00:41:04,619
No.

1010
00:41:04,619 --> 00:41:05,619
No.

1011
00:41:05,619 --> 00:41:06,619
No.

1012
00:41:06,619 --> 00:41:07,619
No.

1013
00:41:07,619 --> 00:41:08,619
Right.

1014
00:41:08,619 --> 00:41:09,619
No.

1015
00:41:09,619 --> 00:41:10,619
Right.

1016
00:41:10,619 --> 00:41:11,619
So the trustees have not given permission to shut down the library.

1017
00:41:11,619 --> 00:41:12,619
Right.

1018
00:41:12,619 --> 00:41:13,619
No.

1019
00:41:13,619 --> 00:41:14,619
So you can send a letter also if you want.

1020
00:41:14,619 --> 00:41:15,619
No, we can't.

1021
00:41:15,619 --> 00:41:16,619
And that's what I'm saying.

1022
00:41:16,619 --> 00:41:17,619
We can.

1023
00:41:17,619 --> 00:41:18,619
We can.

1024
00:41:18,619 --> 00:41:19,619
We just say...

1025
00:41:19,619 --> 00:41:20,619
Well, I mean...

1026
00:41:20,619 --> 00:41:21,619
At...

1027
00:41:21,619 --> 00:41:22,619
His last email was the last email.

1028
00:41:22,619 --> 00:41:23,619
Yeah.

1029
00:41:23,619 --> 00:41:24,619
Yes.

1030
00:41:24,619 --> 00:41:25,619
And he kept...

1031
00:41:25,619 --> 00:41:26,619
We do have another one drafted.

1032
00:41:26,619 --> 00:41:27,619
We can send it after.

1033
00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:28,619
Okay.

1034
00:41:28,619 --> 00:41:29,619
Yeah.

1035
00:41:29,619 --> 00:41:30,619
Because he pretty much...

1036
00:41:30,619 --> 00:41:31,619
Yeah.

1037
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:32,619
We can send it after.

1038
00:41:32,619 --> 00:41:33,619
And you can say...

1039
00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:34,619
You went to the select board.

1040
00:41:34,619 --> 00:41:35,619
We support your letter.

1041
00:41:35,619 --> 00:41:36,619
The select board supports the letter.

1042
00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:37,619
And you could send it...

1043
00:41:37,619 --> 00:41:47,380
You have to say, we're not shutting down, because the last correspondence was, well, you are shutting down, and we're going to be testing tomorrow.

1044
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:49,619
You're going to go in there tomorrow, and we're going to be in there.

1045
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:55,829
And I wonder if that's what he wants to happen, so that he can push it further.

1046
00:41:56,389 --> 00:41:56,789
He might.

1047
00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:59,849
It's got nothing to do with the three kids that are going to test him or not.

1048
00:41:59,849 --> 00:42:07,769
Well, what happens if, so because you have to assume that potentially that's exactly what's going to happen.

1049
00:42:07,769 --> 00:42:09,730
And children are going to be brought in there.

1050
00:42:09,809 --> 00:42:11,489
I don't think they'll do it.

1051
00:42:11,690 --> 00:42:12,650
So you don't think that they will?

1052
00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:15,789
No, because they're scheduled to start testing at 9 a.m.

1053
00:42:16,050 --> 00:42:17,449
I don't think there's going to be children testing.

1054
00:42:17,449 --> 00:42:20,329
It doesn't make sense that they're going to test, go to lunch, and continue testing.

1055
00:42:20,570 --> 00:42:23,469
Like, I don't know of a scenario in a school that does that.

1056
00:42:23,469 --> 00:42:30,469
I think the whole testing thing was entirely made up, and that there won't actually be students testing that time of the day.

1057
00:42:30,869 --> 00:42:32,750
I mean, you need space for three kids.

1058
00:42:32,889 --> 00:42:35,570
You think he just wants to see if you shut the library down.

1059
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:36,530
Yeah, I think so.

1060
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:37,590
Because.

1061
00:42:37,769 --> 00:42:45,159
It seems highly unlikely that, like, they're going to be kids testing from noon to 3.

1062
00:42:45,260 --> 00:42:46,079
I mean, I don't know.

1063
00:42:46,989 --> 00:42:49,030
In my opinion, just.

1064
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:49,829
Just a test.

1065
00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:52,869
You think they'll have someone in there before you open the doors?

1066
00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:53,389
Probably.

1067
00:42:54,260 --> 00:42:58,400
So once you open the doors, I assume that it's open to the public.

1068
00:42:58,739 --> 00:42:59,820
I walk in.

1069
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:01,679
There goes your safety down with tubes.

1070
00:43:02,590 --> 00:43:02,869
Right?

1071
00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:04,210
They brought the kids in.

1072
00:43:04,909 --> 00:43:10,800
So if we unlock the door and he's saying, don't bump her, and then we do.

1073
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,489
And then he says, safety issue.

1074
00:43:13,710 --> 00:43:14,789
Now he's got that.

1075
00:43:15,010 --> 00:43:19,250
It seems like you make a scenario where you already have the solution.

1076
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:25,289
He's setting up a scenario where he already has a solution to it, which is take control of the library.

1077
00:43:26,269 --> 00:43:28,250
So he's just planting seed.

1078
00:43:28,449 --> 00:43:29,170
It's three kids.

1079
00:43:29,289 --> 00:43:30,530
They can test in the gym.

1080
00:43:30,670 --> 00:43:31,849
They can test on the stage.

1081
00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:34,610
I mean, there's plenty of space for three kids.

1082
00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:35,869
They can test in my car.

1083
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:36,429
Exactly.

1084
00:43:36,429 --> 00:43:36,869
Yeah.

1085
00:43:39,590 --> 00:43:41,409
It's nothing to do with that.

1086
00:43:41,489 --> 00:43:46,190
So then instead of the Slack board sending them, we should send the letter that we have?

1087
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:47,929
We could send a letter of support.

1088
00:43:48,369 --> 00:43:50,789
I think we should send a letter too, right?

1089
00:43:50,949 --> 00:43:53,409
The library trustee's decision.

1090
00:43:53,789 --> 00:43:53,969
Yeah.

1091
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:56,670
It will not be current.

1092
00:43:56,849 --> 00:43:57,769
We're in support.

1093
00:43:58,170 --> 00:43:59,650
You know, your approach is terrible.

1094
00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:00,130
Yeah.

1095
00:44:00,309 --> 00:44:01,349
I disagree with you.

1096
00:44:01,349 --> 00:44:02,789
Your landing ain't so great either.

1097
00:44:03,929 --> 00:44:05,690
So try again.

1098
00:44:06,190 --> 00:44:07,630
He's a power player.

1099
00:44:07,789 --> 00:44:08,369
Oh, I know he is.

1100
00:44:08,369 --> 00:44:09,929
We really want to use the word.

1101
00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:11,369
We didn't like your approach.

1102
00:44:11,449 --> 00:44:12,929
Or your approach was wrong.

1103
00:44:13,070 --> 00:44:14,449
Because then that makes sense.

1104
00:44:14,449 --> 00:44:15,570
Well, he disagreed with us.

1105
00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:16,329
His approach is wrong.

1106
00:44:16,329 --> 00:44:16,630
I know.

1107
00:44:16,949 --> 00:44:18,190
We disagree with his approach.

1108
00:44:18,190 --> 00:44:19,130
Don't respond to the meeting.

1109
00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:20,010
We can just say it.

1110
00:44:20,070 --> 00:44:21,809
We just agree with the board.

1111
00:44:21,989 --> 00:44:23,489
And it will remain open.

1112
00:44:24,650 --> 00:44:25,530
Come and ask us.

1113
00:44:25,530 --> 00:44:26,829
We don't have to tell him why.

1114
00:44:27,489 --> 00:44:28,650
He could have came to this meeting.

1115
00:44:28,809 --> 00:44:29,829
We don't have to tell him why.

1116
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:32,429
We'll probably take a recording of it.

1117
00:44:32,570 --> 00:44:33,150
But that's all right.

1118
00:44:33,150 --> 00:44:33,590
You know what?

1119
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:35,550
Thursday we have another meeting.

1120
00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:37,050
He can come to that meeting too.

1121
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:39,429
And I'll give him all the time in the world to talk.

1122
00:44:40,349 --> 00:44:40,949
He can talk.

1123
00:44:41,449 --> 00:44:43,230
Tomorrow, Danielle walks in.

1124
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:45,920
What should she do?

1125
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:49,860
And would you rather one of us be there instead of you?

1126
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:51,400
It's as if someone else should be there.

1127
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,389
I think it puts me in a difficult situation to keep the children from school.

1128
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,099
Do you want me to open the library tomorrow morning?

1129
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,699
I mean, I can be here at noon.

1130
00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:02,480
Instead of for you.

1131
00:45:03,019 --> 00:45:03,599
Can I have a key?

1132
00:45:04,539 --> 00:45:05,639
We only have one.

1133
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,380
It must be shared.

1134
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,280
I can make keys.

1135
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:09,760
You can make a key.

1136
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,539
I can copy it.

1137
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,500
We can discuss that later.

1138
00:45:13,179 --> 00:45:16,980
I mean, that would be non-confrontational.

1139
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:18,679
I don't know.

1140
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:21,420
You could kind of back him down to his demands, but, you know.

1141
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:24,429
Well, that's what's going to happen.

1142
00:45:24,429 --> 00:45:25,789
That's probably what's going to happen.

1143
00:45:25,789 --> 00:45:28,909
He's going to say, well, no, get out to the point where you,

1144
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:32,070
if you don't want to be confrontational, you have to walk away.

1145
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:32,670
You have to.

1146
00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:33,750
Just leave it.

1147
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:34,829
But you said that.

1148
00:45:34,829 --> 00:45:35,989
At least you said it.

1149
00:45:35,989 --> 00:45:38,500
And then we sent him a letter.

1150
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:43,800
You know, we could, we, you know, agree with you and sent, you know, a support letter.

1151
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,300
You sent him a letter.

1152
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:53,380
After they do whatever they do, we can go back and send him another letter, say, this

1153
00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:54,599
will not continue.

1154
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,099
You're a violation.

1155
00:45:56,619 --> 00:45:57,739
We'll talk to your attorneys.

1156
00:45:58,559 --> 00:45:59,559
That's what he wants.

1157
00:45:59,659 --> 00:46:01,380
He mentions that in one of the.

1158
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:02,659
It seems like only the beginning.

1159
00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:03,320
This is just.

1160
00:46:03,619 --> 00:46:03,900
Yeah.

1161
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,079
Well, I mean, I think there's.

1162
00:46:05,260 --> 00:46:09,760
There's the legal and the lawyers, but then there's also the political.

1163
00:46:10,099 --> 00:46:13,309
And I think that we do have this.

1164
00:46:13,389 --> 00:46:16,750
And he's, he basically, I don't think he respects the fact that he.

1165
00:46:17,110 --> 00:46:21,809
Is, in fact, accountable to the voters in the district.

1166
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:22,849
Well, that's what I was going to say.

1167
00:46:23,050 --> 00:46:24,170
He wants to shut this down.

1168
00:46:24,190 --> 00:46:28,989
We can make it clear to him that he is accountable to the voters in his district.

1169
00:46:29,170 --> 00:46:29,369
Right.

1170
00:46:29,570 --> 00:46:34,969
And if he wants to shut it down and bring it to court, you bring it out to the public.

1171
00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:39,070
You put it on the radio, bring it right out to the public that says, hey, look at this

1172
00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:46,050
guy is trying to take, you know, the library, education, these children, show them that

1173
00:46:46,050 --> 00:46:46,590
the children.

1174
00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:48,610
Are using the library.

1175
00:46:48,869 --> 00:46:53,050
All these, all these programs will all be shut down because of this one guy.

1176
00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:55,969
You know, I'd make it look terrible if he started that.

1177
00:46:56,170 --> 00:46:57,230
I'd go right back at him.

1178
00:46:57,250 --> 00:47:01,550
And I'm hopeful that our school board at that point will step in.

1179
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:02,429
The school board.

1180
00:47:02,650 --> 00:47:02,829
Yeah.

1181
00:47:03,369 --> 00:47:04,030
They should already.

1182
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:06,090
Do you send the copy to the school board anyway?

1183
00:47:06,650 --> 00:47:08,050
We haven't, but we certainly can.

1184
00:47:08,050 --> 00:47:08,650
Probably should.

1185
00:47:08,750 --> 00:47:12,050
We came to you guys first because we were, you know.

1186
00:47:12,329 --> 00:47:13,349
Let's go to the school board.

1187
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:15,449
Well, if we don't have jurisdiction, I mean, we can't.

1188
00:47:15,449 --> 00:47:17,070
I mean, if we had jurisdiction, I would.

1189
00:47:17,269 --> 00:47:19,050
I'd go right after him.

1190
00:47:19,090 --> 00:47:19,230
Yeah.

1191
00:47:19,329 --> 00:47:19,929
I mean, we can.

1192
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:22,730
You know, but I would definitely support you 100%.

1193
00:47:22,730 --> 00:47:25,670
This guy is, he's rubbed the meter on me.

1194
00:47:25,949 --> 00:47:26,889
But he can't.

1195
00:47:27,210 --> 00:47:31,230
I mean, maybe I'm wrong and he can, but I would assume it would have to be the school

1196
00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:34,409
board who would seek legal counsel, not just the superintendent.

1197
00:47:34,750 --> 00:47:34,869
Right.

1198
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:37,510
So my hope would be that the school board would.

1199
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:39,860
They got, we voted for them.

1200
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,219
They're our town, our hometown people.

1201
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:43,960
Like, hopefully they would.

1202
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,219
Like, drives me most up a tree about this.

1203
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,380
It's the exact same people who are paying for the school and who are paying for the

1204
00:47:51,380 --> 00:47:51,659
law firm.

1205
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:52,880
Like, it's the voters who stand for the voters.

1206
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,139
Well, this is, you know, we're in a small town.

1207
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,039
We know everybody.

1208
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:59,139
We just try to work and get along and use what we have.

1209
00:47:59,219 --> 00:48:01,000
We've got small buildings here.

1210
00:48:01,340 --> 00:48:02,059
Small office.

1211
00:48:02,179 --> 00:48:02,760
Small town.

1212
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,199
And budget-wise, we all know that school dollars are more expensive than town dollars.

1213
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:07,440
Right.

1214
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,280
So the split does make sense.

1215
00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:10,019
Sure does.

1216
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,320
And I'm sure we've shared other things before.

1217
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,179
Just talk.

1218
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,539
I mean, we share the gym.

1219
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:15,780
We can go in the gym there.

1220
00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:16,619
We use the gym.

1221
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,219
Well, you know.

1222
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:17,659
You watch.

1223
00:48:18,139 --> 00:48:20,679
That's one of those things where they say, we're not doing it anymore.

1224
00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:21,199
That's all right.

1225
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,659
We won't plow the snow anymore.

1226
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,179
That's fine.

1227
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:23,400
Yeah.

1228
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,820
This is the danger of this whole thing.

1229
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,239
Right.

1230
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,820
There will be a winner at the end instead of a compromise.

1231
00:48:31,099 --> 00:48:31,800
There will be a winner.

1232
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:33,900
It's not a good situation.

1233
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:34,079
Right.

1234
00:48:34,219 --> 00:48:36,860
You have to figure out what it is that's going on.

1235
00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:36,880
Yeah.

1236
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,480
I mean, it's not a good situation.

1237
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,659
Someone will be left standing.

1238
00:48:38,860 --> 00:48:39,239
That's true.

1239
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:40,139
You've got to figure out.

1240
00:48:40,139 --> 00:48:40,320
Yeah.

1241
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,139
It can't be an escalating range war.

1242
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:43,840
Right.

1243
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,260
There's no winners to that.

1244
00:48:45,260 --> 00:48:45,420
No.

1245
00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:45,820
Right.

1246
00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:46,940
There's no victory in that.

1247
00:48:47,019 --> 00:48:47,219
Right.

1248
00:48:47,659 --> 00:48:49,940
Everybody's going to get all wiped out.

1249
00:48:50,179 --> 00:48:56,320
But it needs to be addressed soon and resolved soon.

1250
00:48:57,230 --> 00:48:58,590
You can't just keep on going.

1251
00:48:58,590 --> 00:49:04,250
So perhaps, would it be appropriate for us to, I understand that the communications have

1252
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:08,690
come from the superintendent, but could our next email, could it go to the school board?

1253
00:49:09,429 --> 00:49:10,369
I would think so.

1254
00:49:10,369 --> 00:49:12,250
You can send it to them.

1255
00:49:13,409 --> 00:49:15,090
Copy them on it.

1256
00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:15,250
Yeah.

1257
00:49:15,449 --> 00:49:16,889
We'll reply to him.

1258
00:49:17,269 --> 00:49:20,690
Because that's where it's come from, but include the school board on it.

1259
00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:24,449
Because at the end of the day, that feels like it would at least get them in.

1260
00:49:24,489 --> 00:49:24,769
Right.

1261
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:28,429
Because the school board is who needs to pass the school budget.

1262
00:49:28,989 --> 00:49:32,849
They're the ones who are most directly responsible to the voters of Stanford.

1263
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:35,269
They have to come in front of us every year.

1264
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:37,769
The school board is also his boss.

1265
00:49:38,190 --> 00:49:38,690
Yeah, exactly.

1266
00:49:38,909 --> 00:49:39,190
Yes.

1267
00:49:40,469 --> 00:49:41,070
One of his.

1268
00:49:41,369 --> 00:49:46,230
They should definitely let him know that.

1269
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:47,610
You know, when you come to town,

1270
00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:49,530
you have a meeting, you have a school budget.

1271
00:49:50,409 --> 00:49:57,130
And if you decide that the amount that's dedicated to the superintendent's office is how much

1272
00:49:57,130 --> 00:50:02,619
you should reduce the town's budget, school budget.

1273
00:50:04,409 --> 00:50:08,949
This is not, I mean, I remember when Steve was on the school board, like, you know, like

1274
00:50:08,949 --> 00:50:10,230
25 years ago.

1275
00:50:10,389 --> 00:50:16,869
I mean, I remember these, not this exact thing, but there's always a thing with the superintendents.

1276
00:50:16,869 --> 00:50:19,500
And I think it's always been a thing.

1277
00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:19,539
And I think it's always been a thing.

1278
00:50:19,539 --> 00:50:19,639
And I think it's always been a thing.

1279
00:50:19,659 --> 00:50:22,159
Yeah, but some are diplomatic and some are stupid.

1280
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:27,900
This is, this is, this is, and I think that's what bothers me most, that there was no collaboration.

1281
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:33,199
Even in the first response that came from the board that said, you know, can you give

1282
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:35,539
us some valid reasons why it's necessary?

1283
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,159
Like, make us understand why you need this space.

1284
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,179
Because I said so.

1285
00:50:40,179 --> 00:50:42,880
The response was, because I said so.

1286
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:49,219
You also, you did bring up that this is kind of out of the ordinary that it's coming from

1287
00:50:49,219 --> 00:50:49,400
him.

1288
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,159
And not the board.

1289
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:51,659
He didn't address that.

1290
00:50:52,099 --> 00:50:53,519
He never said anything about it.

1291
00:50:53,579 --> 00:50:54,920
He just skipped over that part.

1292
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,360
He did.

1293
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:57,500
That's when he attributed it to Reedsboro.

1294
00:50:57,639 --> 00:50:58,539
That's when he said, well.

1295
00:50:58,699 --> 00:50:58,900
Yeah.

1296
00:50:59,420 --> 00:51:01,199
But we're not in the same situation, you know.

1297
00:51:01,380 --> 00:51:01,400
Yeah.

1298
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:01,579
Yeah.

1299
00:51:01,579 --> 00:51:06,300
Especially all the information that Cindy shared, it's clearly different with the ownership.

1300
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,380
Why would that be at the forefront of his mind during the whole conversation?

1301
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:14,860
Tomorrow, whoever's there, I wouldn't do this in a confrontational way, but I would have

1302
00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:18,800
my cell phone recording in case that he's inappropriate.

1303
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,900
Because those things really matter in this era.

1304
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:22,960
Yeah.

1305
00:51:23,219 --> 00:51:23,400
Yeah.

1306
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:26,360
So I'd have a video recording of him.

1307
00:51:27,690 --> 00:51:30,110
And if he's perfectly fine and not disrespectful.

1308
00:51:30,110 --> 00:51:36,570
But there's some other issues that he's well aware of in this school that I won't bring

1309
00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:37,469
up at this time.

1310
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:42,449
But there's some other issues that the board's not aware of.

1311
00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:46,230
And this is going to come out someday.

1312
00:51:46,590 --> 00:51:48,050
This guy knows things.

1313
00:51:48,130 --> 00:51:49,570
He's not addressing them.

1314
00:51:49,909 --> 00:51:51,170
So it can get worse.

1315
00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:56,710
Well, and hopefully, by including the board, they'll also communicate with him that we

1316
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:59,070
library should be open for tomorrow.

1317
00:51:59,329 --> 00:52:02,409
Like maybe that'll dissipate some of this.

1318
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:06,289
You know, if you get a hold of Cindy, she's definitely going to support you.

1319
00:52:06,869 --> 00:52:11,719
And I mean, she'll say to him, enough is enough, you know.

1320
00:52:13,139 --> 00:52:16,139
There's plenty, like you said, 81 other hours here.

1321
00:52:16,989 --> 00:52:17,789
That's a lot.

1322
00:52:17,969 --> 00:52:18,269
Okay.

1323
00:52:18,349 --> 00:52:18,829
That's a lot.

1324
00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:20,329
I think we hashed this over.

1325
00:52:20,449 --> 00:52:20,550
Yeah.

1326
00:52:20,550 --> 00:52:21,409
That's what we're going to do.

1327
00:52:21,929 --> 00:52:22,230
Yep.

1328
00:52:22,750 --> 00:52:23,010
Agreed.

1329
00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:24,710
Do we need to take a vote on this?

1330
00:52:24,809 --> 00:52:25,250
We're here.

1331
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:26,130
Sure.

1332
00:52:26,449 --> 00:52:26,789
If you want to.

1333
00:52:27,070 --> 00:52:35,460
I make a motion that we send an email to the superintendent saying that we disagree with

1334
00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:39,139
how you approach the trustees and the use of the library.

1335
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:46,420
And we support their decision to be open tomorrow from 12 to 6.

1336
00:52:47,170 --> 00:52:47,650
Okay.

1337
00:52:47,650 --> 00:52:48,829
And who will be not be going on that?

1338
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:50,610
Just for the next three weeks.

1339
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:51,650
The next three weeks.

1340
00:52:51,650 --> 00:52:52,650
Yeah.

1341
00:52:52,650 --> 00:52:53,650
The next three weeks.

1342
00:52:53,650 --> 00:52:54,650
Right.

1343
00:52:54,650 --> 00:52:56,030
To the public.

1344
00:52:56,030 --> 00:52:57,030
Yes.

1345
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:58,030
Especially open to the public.

1346
00:52:58,030 --> 00:52:59,030
For the regular.

1347
00:52:59,030 --> 00:53:00,030
Fluff it up, Lori.

1348
00:53:00,030 --> 00:53:04,489
And your board, your trustees, you can make sure that you talk about the budget, too.

1349
00:53:04,489 --> 00:53:05,489
This has been paid for.

1350
00:53:05,489 --> 00:53:07,949
It's already been set in stone.

1351
00:53:07,949 --> 00:53:13,329
The people of this town voted for this budget with those hours in mind.

1352
00:53:13,329 --> 00:53:15,230
We expect it to be open.

1353
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:16,230
We paid for it.

1354
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:17,789
I already paid for the movie ticket.

1355
00:53:17,789 --> 00:53:20,349
I expect the movie to be playing when I get there.

1356
00:53:20,349 --> 00:53:21,349
Second.

1357
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:22,349
Second.

1358
00:53:22,349 --> 00:53:23,349
Do I have a second?

1359
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:24,349
Yes, second.

1360
00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:25,349
All in favor?

1361
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:26,349
Aye.

1362
00:53:26,349 --> 00:53:27,349
Aye.

1363
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:29,219
Okay.

1364
00:53:29,219 --> 00:53:30,789
And who's going to receive ?

1365
00:53:30,789 --> 00:53:31,789
Library trustees.

1366
00:53:31,789 --> 00:53:33,110
You want to send it to the school board, too?

1367
00:53:33,110 --> 00:53:34,110
Copy them, too?

1368
00:53:34,110 --> 00:53:35,110
Oh, definitely.

1369
00:53:35,110 --> 00:53:36,110
Yep.

1370
00:53:36,110 --> 00:53:37,110
Definitely.

1371
00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:38,110
Okay.

1372
00:53:38,110 --> 00:53:40,329
Should they get emails?

1373
00:53:40,329 --> 00:53:41,329
Well, that's up to you.

1374
00:53:41,329 --> 00:53:42,329
We can send them.

1375
00:53:42,329 --> 00:53:43,329
That's up to them.

1376
00:53:43,329 --> 00:53:44,329
Why not?

1377
00:53:44,329 --> 00:53:45,329
Yeah.

1378
00:53:45,329 --> 00:53:46,329
Yeah.

1379
00:53:46,329 --> 00:53:47,619
You got to have your contact.

1380
00:53:47,619 --> 00:53:48,619
Yeah.

1381
00:53:48,619 --> 00:53:49,619
Yeah.

1382
00:53:49,619 --> 00:53:52,619
And if they ask why you haven't let them in on it, this guy was coming to the school

1383
00:53:52,619 --> 00:53:53,619
board.

1384
00:53:53,619 --> 00:53:54,619
He was coming to you and not them.

1385
00:53:54,619 --> 00:53:55,619
You assumed.

1386
00:53:55,619 --> 00:53:56,619
Yeah.

1387
00:53:56,619 --> 00:53:57,619
Maybe we'll send the attachments that I sent to the select board, which is just the emails

1388
00:53:57,619 --> 00:53:58,619
in the PDF form.

1389
00:53:58,619 --> 00:53:59,619
Yep.

1390
00:53:59,619 --> 00:54:00,619
And then include them on.

1391
00:54:00,619 --> 00:54:01,619
So we'll send one separate to the school board.

1392
00:54:01,619 --> 00:54:02,619
And then.

1393
00:54:02,619 --> 00:54:03,619
Yeah.

1394
00:54:03,619 --> 00:54:04,619
Yeah.

1395
00:54:04,619 --> 00:54:05,619
Otherwise, they may be very overwhelmed.

1396
00:54:05,619 --> 00:54:06,619
Yeah.

1397
00:54:06,619 --> 00:54:07,619
They probably hear what's going on anyway.

1398
00:54:07,619 --> 00:54:08,619
Yeah.

1399
00:54:08,619 --> 00:54:09,619
I would imagine.

1400
00:54:09,619 --> 00:54:10,619
We don't like it.

1401
00:54:10,619 --> 00:54:11,619
Oh, no.

1402
00:54:11,619 --> 00:54:12,619
We sure don't.

1403
00:54:12,619 --> 00:54:13,619
So is there any other business here?

1404
00:54:13,619 --> 00:54:14,619
Nope.

1405
00:54:14,619 --> 00:54:16,420
You guys good?

1406
00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:17,420
Thank you.

1407
00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:18,579
Thank you.

1408
00:54:18,579 --> 00:54:19,929
Thank you.

1409
00:54:19,929 --> 00:54:20,929
Thank you.

1410
00:54:20,929 --> 00:54:21,929
Thank you.

1411
00:54:21,929 --> 00:54:23,219
Thank you.

1412
00:54:23,219 --> 00:54:24,219
Thank you.

1413
00:54:24,219 --> 00:54:25,219
Thank you.

1414
00:54:25,219 --> 00:54:26,219
Thank you.

1415
00:54:26,219 --> 00:54:27,340
You're welcome.

1416
00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:28,340
Thank you.

1417
00:54:28,340 --> 00:54:29,340
You're welcome.

1418
00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:30,340
You're welcome.

1419
00:54:30,340 --> 00:54:31,340
Thank you.

1420
00:54:31,340 --> 00:54:32,340
I have a question.

1421
00:54:32,340 --> 00:54:33,340
It doesn't seem to be very obligating.

1422
00:54:33,340 --> 00:54:34,340
Take a motion to adjourn.

1423
00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:35,340
And I have a question.

1424
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:36,340
We need to end.

1425
00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:37,340
For the trustees, too.

1426
00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:38,340
I came in Saturday morning about 9 o'clock here.

1427
00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:39,340
And I did mention it to the principal.

1428
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:40,340
I don't think the library was open then.

1429
00:54:40,340 --> 00:54:41,340
It was.

1430
00:54:41,340 --> 00:54:42,340
I forgot to put the flag up.

1431
00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:43,340
Okay.

1432
00:54:43,340 --> 00:54:44,340
Okay.

1433
00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:45,340
It was.

1434
00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:46,340
And there was no cars here, either.

1435
00:54:46,340 --> 00:54:47,340
Well, that's because my husband brought me.

1436
00:54:47,340 --> 00:54:48,340
Okay.

1437
00:54:48,340 --> 00:54:49,340
All right.

1438
00:54:49,340 --> 00:54:50,500
And then I forgot to put the flag.

1439
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:51,500
And.

1440
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:52,500
Hold on.

1441
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:53,500
I got to write this down.

1442
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:58,420
And one of the people stopped and said, I thought maybe you were closed.

1443
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,940
I was like, oh, we're trying to put the flag out.

1444
00:55:01,019 --> 00:55:01,340
All right.

1445
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,760
You know, put the key in the door.

1446
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,599
I'm like, wait a minute.

1447
00:55:04,820 --> 00:55:07,760
There's no alarm, but there's no flag, no cars.

1448
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,099
That's why.

1449
00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:10,940
It was incognito.

1450
00:55:11,219 --> 00:55:12,099
So it was in and out.

1451
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,559
Okay.

1452
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,559
You get a pass.

1453
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:14,440
Put the flag out.

1454
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:15,420
All right.

1455
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,559
But it was like a pointy tail.

1456
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:17,860
Can we make a motion to adjourn?

1457
00:55:17,980 --> 00:55:18,920
I want to make it.

1458
00:55:19,619 --> 00:55:20,599
You always make it.

1459
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:21,760
Motion to adjourn.

1460
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:22,900
All in favor.

1461
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:23,820
Aye.