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Let's call the meeting to order.

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I stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag and the United States of America,

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and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Welcome to a meeting of the Stanford Select Board.

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If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda,

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you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address.

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You will notice that all our meetings are recorded and will proceed with the summarization of the minutes.

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Visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic.

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Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others.

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Select Board members present are...

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John Dunn, Bert Amari, Nancy Bishica.

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Would there be any adding of or removing of items from tonight's agenda?

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I have new...

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Will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order of items?

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I do.

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I would like to move the finalizing budget and review and finalize the Select Board report

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to the end of the meeting after new business because I think it's going to take a lot longer.

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And possibly...

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It's going to be an executive session for personnel.

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And Jeb is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video.

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First order of business, the board would like to offer the sympathy to Kirk...

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Thank you.

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...for the passing of your father.

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Thank you.

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Mary Lou Wright and her family for the passing of Doug,

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and Mike for the passing of his mother this morning.

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That's why we're down to three selectmen here.

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Okay. Hearing of visitors. Okay. Reading and approval of records and orders. Minutes of January 8th. Oh, we were all here. All in favor? Aye. Reading and approval of records and orders. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Anything on highway update other than plowing snow? Breakdowns. Very busy. Breakdowns.

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Um, yeah, we did have a breakdown of Mike's truck. I had the traveling mechanic come down on a wire that was fully broken, but sensitivity of it, I guess it was enough of an issue that it was causing the transmission of that shit properly. So I was up in the wiring harness and he found that and was able to repair it very quickly.

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What do you call Mike's truck? Does he usually? The 2019 Freightliner. He's typically the operator of that.

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Other than plowing? Um. Moving snow. We've been moving snow, you know, ends of driveways, stuff like that. Moving the banks back, trying to get ready for more snow.

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Yes, I think they were at the end of Brookside the other day because now I can see over the bank coming out because it's pretty dangerous.

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The state typically does the main highway, but this year we've been doing it periodically as far as where our intersections are because they seem to be lacking last year doing it.

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We couldn't really wave this year, so we hit home, but today I saw them come down.

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Yeah, the state was here today and pushed quite a bit back, but.

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They can take more time down here in the main road, but I mean, this is their road and they can't even do it. We have to plow our own stuff, so we're ready to take time and make time for it.

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But we're more or less doing the same stuff on our roads. Mike's been out for the last two days, two, three days doing that.

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Mm-hmm. Okay. And maybe more coming?

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They're saying now that that storm is going to stay south east of this.

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Hopefully so.

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Okay. Anything else on highway?

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No.

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For what we do?

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Recourt and paving.

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Okay. How about recycling? Did they bring a small dumpster yet, or a big dumpster, or what do we have?

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It changes. Sometimes it's the right dumpster, sometimes it's not.

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Sometimes it's not, which is pretty normal at this point, I would say.

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Mm-hmm.

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They haven't brought the really large one. That wasn't an issue.

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Okay.

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So we're kind of happy about that.

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Okay. Anything else?

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I do. Costello sent in another report.

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Oh, good.

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So I need that. I need to copy and put in a box.

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So I just have two. What was it? Small Town. That was new last year. I don't know why they sent it here, but they must be collecting somebody.

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From somebody in Stanford. And the other one is R.L. Lefebvre, that I always have to call him.

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Oh, he's from the Chattahoochee.

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I like to call him. Okay. Correspondence. Oh, any other discussion or anything?

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I've been maintaining the walkways at the school.

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Okay.

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I thought they had a janitor.

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Well, he quit a couple weeks ago.

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I thought there was somebody in there.

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Oh, they do have a janitor, but it's not a...

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Not a snow-blowing janitor.

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Okay. So somebody here might have a flamethrower in there, but their snowblower is not here, or at least it wasn't.

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Do you know if they've hired another janitor?

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I think they just have a temporary cleaning service until...

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I've heard they hired one.

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Have you heard they hired someone?

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Yeah, they came in the planning committee and they said they had a janitor.

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I don't know. Maybe it was someone that worked for the cleaning service.

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I have no idea.

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But someone was here cleaning.

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The cleaning service has been coming in and they said they hired...

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I heard they hired someone.

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Oh, okay. I don't know.

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I'm not a little...

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I don't know. When the principal was here last week, didn't she say they had hired someone?

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Just the temporary one. The temporary cleaning service.

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So that was another thing. We had two meetings with no quorums.

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At one meeting, the principal was here, and we couldn't make any decision, but the janitor had quit.

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So one of the things that Dave has tried to work with the janitor about snow blowing and cleaning snow was have him come in first, blow the snow out in the yard, then when Dave comes through, he can clean it up.

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It seemed like it was working backwards for a while, so now they have no one to blow the snow, so Dave is back-dragging the front door.

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And...

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James?

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I'm shoveling. No, I've been doing it all myself.

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Okay. Shoveling the two doors here in the parking lot.

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The janitor usually ran the snow blower behind the school and around the school, but we can't do that because these guys need to be out on the road.

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Right.

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Plus, their snow blower is broken, and they brought it back...

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And they went out for service.

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They went out for service. So I don't know how they're handling that, cleaning the other pathways.

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Seems like the conversation we had every couple of years.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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So we couldn't make any decision or anything when Julie was here, but they hadn't hired anybody, and it goes through WSSU anyway.

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And then last meeting, Green Mountain Power was here. What Green Mountain Power is going to be doing is replacing all the wires in town.

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They're going to be...

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heavier wires, upgrade poles and wires. The heavier wires are being installed, and they may be changing poles, too, because the wires, the new wires, it's such a long run and heavy, and the wires would sag too much.

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So they're going to be putting poles in along, hopefully, their right-of-ways, and they're getting right-of-ways from individual people, too,

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to put additional poles in.

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So hopefully that will start this summer, and we have an agreement with Green Mountain Power.

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We couldn't sign it last week because nobody was here, so Lori's got that agreement anyway.

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It's a Stanford Select Board.

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To provide reliable service to customers, it is necessary to rebuild existing overhead poles.

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And wires within the highway limits of Mill, Clough, Lincoln, Robillard, and Brookside Road.

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The majority of the proposed rebuilding project runs along the main highway and will be permitted under V-Trans Section 1111 approval.

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Green Mountain Power further represents that the work will be done safely for public travel and subject to the rules.

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And Green Mountain Power requests permission from the Select Board to rebuild.

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Existing poles, guys, and wires as aforesaid.

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So they'd like the town approval for this.

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And I see no objection to it, and you guys don't object.

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Dave, you looked it over.

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In fact, the fellow came down and talked to you.

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You had no objection to this?

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No.

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Do we all sign that?

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Uh, yeah.

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The poles will then be blessed.

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Right. It said something about...

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Is that what the ongoing flagging has been doing?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And it said with these new wires, there should be less power outages.

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If a branch falls on it, it won't short out quite so easily as...

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It has been pretty good, knock on wood.

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Not like last year.

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Can I have a motion to sign that?

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Sorry, I'm jumping all over here.

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Motion to sign.

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Is this you or all of us?

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All of us.

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Second.

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All in favor.

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All in favor.

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We're good.

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So that was the past two meetings that you guys weren't here.

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So back to tonight's meeting.

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We're done with discussion.

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We already did hearing of visitors, but Nancy, did you want to...

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You have to leave quickly, or you had something going on?

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I'm going to stay until about 7.

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Well, we're going to be a little bit longer.

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That's all I can do tonight.

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Okay.

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So if you want to jump in now, we'll do hearing of visitors.

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Well, I spoke to you about what we need to talk about.

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I don't think these boys know about it, because I didn't mention...

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John does.

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Oh, okay.

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Because I spoke with John.

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Yeah, we spoke.

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Well, I'm concerned that there may have been a lack of training.

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Noticing things like Klaus's driveway, Klaus Laurie's.

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And then I started asking other people in other towns.

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And they were like, no, Nancy, that's not right.

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And I thought, and you know, I think to myself, well, maybe he wasn't told.

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Maybe he doesn't know that when you're using town equipment, you should be taking care

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of town roads and not personal projects.

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Now, I relate a little story.

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Last year, I was cleaning off my car or shoveling my driveway or something.

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And Mike stopped and told me he would, you know, pull my car out, he'll plow my driveway.

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I was like, whoa, okay.

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That never happened before, but that's okay.

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I was like, all right, thank you.

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Because what are you going to do when you're 68 years old and you're out there and shoveling

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and, you know, accept a little help.

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But I felt guilty.

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I thought, it's not right.

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Because if he's doing it for me, then he should be doing it for all of the houses.

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And not just me.

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And not just, you know.

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I love Mike.

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I've known Mike since he was a little boy.

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And as I said, I'm very concerned, though.

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Because I think the use of our town equipment, whether it's the loader or whether it's the

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plow trucks.

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Or whether it's a brush hog in the summer.

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I don't know.

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I know that there's a cost per hour.

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And you start adding up those five minutes here, ten minutes there.

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And, you know, how many hours does it end up being over the year?

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So how much has the town paid to have these certain driveways plowed?

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Consistently.

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Maybe you can help me.

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Maybe Dave can help.

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Maybe Mike didn't know.

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And to me, then that would be an honest mistake.

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Right?

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Right?

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You don't know?

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You don't know?

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I didn't know until this year.

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Until I asked.

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Okay.

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And I'm concerned about the salt on the road.

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And I'll go into that another time.

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There's way too much.

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We have a vernal pool on Robillard Road.

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Down where the old sugar shack was.

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And this year there were hardly any frost.

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And there were no frogs in it.

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And so when I test, when I told, I think both of you this, I have a whole house culligan system.

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And I've had it for, I don't know, 20 years now.

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When they come and replace the filter, I will be taking some water directly from my well and having it tested.

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At that time, at my expense, at that time I will also go to the vernal pool.

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And hopefully I can get enough water and we can have that tested too.

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Because as I shared with John and Nancy years ago, we didn't put a whole lot of salt on the road.

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We had dirt.

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We didn't have that big hard gravelly stuff that we had last year and the year before and the year before that.

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I was pleased to go up to the town shed and find that there was sand in there.

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Not big clunky nasty gravel.

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But sand.

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Wonderful.

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Who would have thunk?

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There it was.

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So if you guys could kind of toss that around between yourselves and think about that.

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And I will come back when I know.

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I'm going to come back more often.

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But when I know about if there is a salinity problem in my well and in the vernal pool where I expect there will be one.

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We might have to do something.

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Okay.

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So now that we have James too.

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We have to do something.

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How is it instructing.

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We will discuss that.

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Anything else?

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Lisa, were you going to talk about a grant or something?

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Last time that we.

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I did.

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I ended up talking to Lori.

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But I also wanted to just let everybody know that the VCR is moving the language about putting any turbines up.

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Yeah.

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The point.

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They went from a kilometer to a point five kilometers.

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kilometers and so that didn't get in our letter that we sent to BCRC and I'm not sure why so that's

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my next goal is to change that back to the one kilometer. Okay and as far as the planning grant

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with Callie you said she wants to come down sometime. Yes she said it's not time contingent

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because she knows you're working on budgets. Okay. She doesn't want to come. Okay um so my opinion is

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I think it's just a sign like for you to sign the town's portion. We did. Oh. Didn't we do that? That's

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yes I signed something online. We signed the application. I think there's one more paper.

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Did it come down?

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I think that she wants another paper where she

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you're

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you're

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you're

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you're

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you're

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agreeing to give whatever amount the town is eligible. Yeah yeah I think so. If we don't sign it she's usually right on top of it and emails Lori and says where's your signature and we'll do it. I'll write her and ask her why she wants to come down to person or not. Okay. Sorry for that. My opinion is to wait until after election when we have a full board here. Sure. It depends on her and the grant. As long as everything's ready to proceed on her.

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Okay.

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Lori.

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Yep. Yep. Her timeline. Okay. Um. Correspondence. Lori. Correspondence. Grant correspondence or something?

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Do you want to do the grant correspondence?

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Whatever you want to give us or I can do certificate of no suit pending for the grant list or this is for.

260
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So that's part of still the July 2023 flooding. Um.

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Yeah.

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So.

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We were originally only getting. Um.

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They weren't giving us the Ireaf match because we didn't have our ducks in a row and it looks like now they're re-doing it and willing to give us the additional Ireaf itself.

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7.8%.

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It comes out to almost $11,000.

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So Nancy you'll want to sign here.

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We will definitely sign this ticket.

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Take it.

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It's been a few years.

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Yeah.

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So this is good.

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Hopefully it doesn't take that long.

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get the money. Okay. And then this is the 2024 grand list. And this paper is a certificate

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saying that there are no suits pending against the grand list, which we had to wait to sign.

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All suits are settled now, so we're good. Our assessor did here, so I guess you guys

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want to go there. Motion to sign? Yeah. You got a fat pen now, huh? Yeah. Well, that's

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good. It comes out better. Yeah, it does. Maybe you can just switch, Laurie, switch

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assessor and put selection. So that'll last, even when the paper is gone, writing will

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still be somewhere. I know it's not my turn to say anything, but I have a question. Why

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can't we talk about it now? What's that? You could ask Dave right now. If we talked

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to Mike about that when Mike was hired.

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Probably. We have a... Otherwise, we're just keeping it down the road. Yep. I'd like

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to do that in executive session because it's going to be personnel. That's what I was

285
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assuming. That's what you're assuming? Yeah. That's what I assumed. We'll do it in executive

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session. Do you have any structure to any kind of training? Yeah, I guess so. Do we

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have any structure? To any kind of training. Nothing written as far as I know. We have

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an employee... The employee.

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handbook. We have a job description that Dave is the boss and they report to him.

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But we don't say Monday you do this, Tuesday you do that, or how to plow. They know how to plow.

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Do you need that spot still or no?

292
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No, I think it was.

293
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So for mine, it's the first I've heard of it and I've had no real chance to look up anything about it whatsoever.

294
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And I wanted to say, I know I'm out of place, but I'm awfully sorry about your day.

295
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Thank you. I appreciate that. I just wanted to reserve the right to kind of look things over.

296
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Because I don't know off the top of my head what the rules are or aren't.

297
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And this is the first I've heard of it, so I haven't had a chance to really research it, so I don't really have a comment at this point.

298
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That's my statement.

299
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I have a birthday present.

300
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Okay.

301
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Thank you.

302
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You don't get 17 every day.

303
00:24:22,579 --> 00:24:24,680
No, no.

304
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Certificate of highway mileage.

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From my agency at Transcorporate, the mileage changes that we made last year at the top of County Road.

306
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So I think the numbers all look good. There should be no changes.

307
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So if you guys want to look them over and sign down there at the bottom.

308
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Okay. That was last year. We changed the mileage up there.

309
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Well, like I said, with blacktopping the road, I thought it wasn't 10 years ago either.

310
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I know.

311
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Class 2, legal trail.

312
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Okay. Motion to sign this certificate of highway mileage.

313
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It's changing, adding more to our legal trail and taking it off the Class 4.

314
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Is that what it was doing?

315
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That's what we submitted last year, and that agrees with the submission.

316
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Yes.

317
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Okay.

318
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I think so.

319
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In our correspondence, we have a letter here from Barb Doley.

320
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Did you guys have a chance to read it?

321
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I read it the best I could through the email.

322
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It was hard to either see or just make out her penmanship on certain parts.

323
00:26:52,420 --> 00:26:55,420
Yeah, I printed this off from my computer.

324
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I kind of got the gist of it, but I'm not sure.

325
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I'm not very detailed on it.

326
00:27:01,099 --> 00:27:03,099
I don't know if somebody wants to read it.

327
00:27:03,099 --> 00:27:06,099
It's certainly more of a long list.

328
00:27:06,099 --> 00:27:15,099
It seems to me that she's saying they're cutting hay over on her property.

329
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That's a civil issue.

330
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If I'm not mistaken, she's brought that up before.

331
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Yes.

332
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And they may have or may not have made corrections, so I don't know if she's...

333
00:27:28,099 --> 00:27:31,099
Bringing up old news again?

334
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We don't deal with personal vendettas, really, so...

335
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Oh, that was my thought.

336
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We should send her a letter saying we reviewed this and it is not in the Select Board's wheelhouse that we settle personal properties.

337
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That's what I could make out of it.

338
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Like I said, I really couldn't make it out word for word, but it seems like a personal dispute that she has for one reason or another.

339
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Yeah.

340
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Maybe it has nothing to do with the town.

341
00:28:00,150 --> 00:28:01,150
Yeah, I agree.

342
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Yeah.

343
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There are two...

344
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Sent.

345
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Anything on 911 numbering update?

346
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No.

347
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No.

348
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I know Bob was working on it, so...

349
00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:50,359
And town sign update, it looks like the posts have been covered with the same vinyl or whatever it is.

350
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:51,359
Yeah, it looks like it's done, huh?

351
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Yeah.

352
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Yeah.

353
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:54,359
Did it get paid, is it?

354
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:55,359
It's been paid as well.

355
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:56,359
Yeah, so it must be done.

356
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:57,359
Okay.

357
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Looks good.

358
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Yeah.

359
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I did notice...

360
00:29:00,940 --> 00:29:01,940
Very informative.

361
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The church has lights on their sign.

362
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:03,940
Mm-hmm.

363
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:04,940
Is that...

364
00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:09,940
That's okay with our zoning bylaws, or are they exempt from being a church, or...

365
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:10,940
They're saying they're covered, so...

366
00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:11,940
I don't...

367
00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:12,940
I guess I don't know.

368
00:29:12,940 --> 00:29:14,349
I mean, I don't want to...

369
00:29:14,349 --> 00:29:15,349
There's certain rules about illumination.

370
00:29:15,349 --> 00:29:16,579
Yeah, the water's straightening down, but...

371
00:29:16,579 --> 00:29:17,579
You can illuminate the sign, but you can't have an illuminated sign.

372
00:29:17,579 --> 00:29:18,579
Gotcha.

373
00:29:18,579 --> 00:29:19,579
So I think that is...

374
00:29:19,579 --> 00:29:20,579
It's okay.

375
00:29:20,579 --> 00:29:21,579
It's okay.

376
00:29:21,579 --> 00:29:22,579
It's okay.

377
00:29:22,579 --> 00:29:23,579
It's okay.

378
00:29:23,579 --> 00:29:24,579
It's okay.

379
00:29:24,579 --> 00:29:25,579
It's okay.

380
00:29:25,579 --> 00:29:26,579
It's okay.

381
00:29:26,579 --> 00:29:27,579
It's okay.

382
00:29:27,579 --> 00:29:28,579
It's okay.

383
00:29:28,579 --> 00:29:29,579
It's okay.

384
00:29:29,579 --> 00:29:32,079
It's okay.

385
00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:33,589
It's done.

386
00:29:33,589 --> 00:29:35,549
Is that something you'd sign?

387
00:29:35,549 --> 00:29:36,549
I thought maybe the sign...

388
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:37,549
That town sign would be nice if it was illuminated at nighttime.

389
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:38,549
Yeah.

390
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:39,549
Yeah, let's add more gas.

391
00:29:39,549 --> 00:29:40,549
Yeah, that...

392
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Just...

393
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:46,359
Yeah.

394
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:47,359
Okay.

395
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:48,359
Any other new business?

396
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,829
Or old business?

397
00:29:50,829 --> 00:29:51,829
Quiet night tonight.

398
00:29:51,829 --> 00:29:52,829
We have nothing left?

399
00:29:52,829 --> 00:29:54,859
Okay.

400
00:29:54,859 --> 00:29:55,859
All right.

401
00:29:55,859 --> 00:29:58,940
Did you review and finalize the select board report?

402
00:29:58,940 --> 00:29:59,940
Not a thing.

403
00:29:59,940 --> 00:30:01,579
That's what we're doing.

404
00:30:01,579 --> 00:30:02,579
Awesome.

405
00:30:02,579 --> 00:30:09,210
Thank you.

406
00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:10,210
Thank you.

407
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:11,339
Thank you.

408
00:30:11,339 --> 00:30:13,900
Thank you.

409
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:14,900
Thank you.

410
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,900
Thank you.

411
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:16,970
Thank you.

412
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:17,970
Thank you.

413
00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:19,799
Thank you.

414
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:20,799
Thank you.

415
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:21,799
Okay.

416
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,150
And now we're golden.

417
00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:24,339
So...

418
00:30:24,339 --> 00:30:25,339
Does it look good?

419
00:30:25,339 --> 00:30:26,339
No.

420
00:30:26,339 --> 00:30:27,599
No, no, no, no, no.

421
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:28,599
There's a lot.

422
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:30,500
There's a lot to go.

423
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:31,500
Let's...

424
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:32,740
First, we should go...

425
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:38,210
We finished all the budget, receipts, budget, everything.

426
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:51,500
So, now for the town report, or the warning.

427
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:53,930
You guys staying, Jeff?

428
00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:59,390
This could be yours next year.

429
00:30:59,390 --> 00:31:02,980
I know.

430
00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:08,750
So, you've got the warning in front of you for the town report.

431
00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:09,170
Yeah.

432
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:26,009
report warning for the town standard article one is to elect the following officers they'll be done

433
00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:42,359
by um australian ballot next day um 20 article 2 that's always on there you use at least 25

434
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:49,559
of the positive fund balance so the town authorized the expenditure of 1 million 186 104

435
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:57,720
general expense of 438 174 that's town cemetery fire department

436
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:08,579
and those are the final numbers yes if you have any questions about the budget numbers

437
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:20,099
you guys have john you probably have the final budget right uh i think it's over here no yeah

438
00:32:20,099 --> 00:32:25,220
you should have a copy the bottom is 106 815 yes yeah the first page is

439
00:32:25,539 --> 00:32:32,019
in for town and highway and then the next pages are all town expense from the last page is highway

440
00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:43,019
town expense 438 174. got it ready keep going a little bit further and one more

441
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:55,220
and one more 438 174 yep and then highway seven five one nine three zero no no seven four seven

442
00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:59,160
nine three zero yeah why are we okay

443
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:06,599
we've realized why we're so high because of the third man uh the health insurance for the third

444
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:23,160
man most most of it's that i think dave on your equipment maintenance and repair we budgeted last

445
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:29,319
year 45 000 and we spent 79. was that all the freight a lot of it the freight liner

446
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:37,509
that's a good point then yeah right here you got replacing the 2019 ram truck which should be the

447
00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:44,859
2019 freight oh yeah change the date getting to 2017 or 19.

448
00:33:46,059 --> 00:33:53,430
freightliner that's why you're looking at it a new truck to replace are you going what are we doing

449
00:33:53,430 --> 00:34:00,619
with the 2019 freight liner well i'm not sure how long it's going to be until we have the new truck

450
00:34:00,619 --> 00:34:07,099
so we can't trade something in it's going to take a while my guess is with three guys we should just

451
00:34:07,099 --> 00:34:08,539
keep it for a spare i'm not sure how long it's going to be until we have the new truck so we can't trade something in my guess is with three guys we should just keep it for a spare

452
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:14,860
because right now and then that especially how busy we get you need backup equipment at the

453
00:34:14,860 --> 00:34:21,860
winter time you gotta have something else are we gonna say replace or then uh maybe

454
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:24,739
we just don't

455
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:38,739
from the time i try to get a cabin chassis and send it to h.p fairfield and have them do it it's going

456
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:42,980
a year. So we probably won't even have a new truck for next winter.

457
00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:46,980
There's probably certain roads in town you wouldn't want to bring a nice brand new truck

458
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:50,980
on either. Where you'd be like, listen, let's bring the old freightliner up there.

459
00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:54,980
Well, in the summertime that truck probably would be utilized more

460
00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:58,980
anyways, the size of it. And then it could be a backup in the wintertime

461
00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:02,980
so it's not getting pushed so hard on a daily basis.

462
00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:06,980
Yeah, for sure it'd be nice to just hop in, say that old truck

463
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:10,980
and go over to Klondike because the Clarksburg Road is completely destroyed.

464
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:14,980
Yeah, it's terrible. Right, think about it. How much do you like going up that road

465
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:18,980
with your truck? I don't. I've got to tell myself to slow down.

466
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:22,980
It's terrible. It is terrible. They don't have any money either. They can't fix nothing.

467
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:27,400
So, I think replace would be the one

468
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,400
in there because maybe in a year we're going to want to replace it.

469
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,400
That it's going to fall apart in the yard. And if you keep it.

470
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,940
Well, listen, I'm just

471
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:42,039
trying to provide reliable service to the business.

472
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:46,039
If these things stay running, I wouldn't care if they're 30 years old.

473
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:50,039
But unfortunately, a lot of the repairs now are like electrical

474
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:54,039
repairs, which you need a computer to diagnose, a computer to reset

475
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,039
the computer after you've fixed it. It's like there's no

476
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:02,869
mechanical stuff we still do, but most of it is stuff

477
00:36:02,869 --> 00:36:06,869
that you just can't. I mean, we changed the wheel burn, but the ABS light doesn't go

478
00:36:06,869 --> 00:36:11,159
well because it trips the wheel burn. And then you don't have

479
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:15,159
four-wheel drive because the ABS light's on. So you've got to go down

480
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:19,159
with the darts and have them canceled. I've got a thing that

481
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:23,159
plugs in, but you need a $6,000 handheld computer

482
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:27,159
and subscribe to the $2,500 a year service to be able

483
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:31,159
to take that ABS light off. It's crazy. It's just going to be a consistent

484
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:35,159
investment basically year after year to keep up with our staff.

485
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:39,159
Every five years, we're going to be cycling out and

486
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:43,159
almost just might have like a rolling account. Right, rolling loan to

487
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:47,159
keep buying. And that's kind of the point here is that we're already currently

488
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:51,159
we'll be paying off of auto loan. So we're just going to

489
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:55,159
actually not going to be raising taxes. We're just going to keep it rolling.

490
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:59,159
I'm just asking these questions because thinking what's going

491
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:03,159
to come up at town meeting. Sure. So we're going to have to be

492
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,159
prepared and usually at town meeting

493
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:09,699
John, were you there last year at town meeting?

494
00:37:09,699 --> 00:37:14,469
There's people that got all kinds of questions.

495
00:37:14,469 --> 00:37:18,469
Nancy's usually got all the answers.

496
00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:22,469
But there's going to be questions that we didn't even anticipate.

497
00:37:22,469 --> 00:37:26,469
We're going, what now? I can justify pretty much

498
00:37:26,469 --> 00:37:30,469
every dime we're spending. It's a good investment.

499
00:37:30,469 --> 00:37:34,469
If anything, I think you should be putting more money into the replacement

500
00:37:34,469 --> 00:37:38,469
of tires and things. And I know it's going to raise taxes and stuff.

501
00:37:38,469 --> 00:37:42,820
But then the money's there. You don't have

502
00:37:42,820 --> 00:37:46,820
to raise it. It's in the fund.

503
00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:51,110
Let's buy something.

504
00:37:51,110 --> 00:37:56,230
With interest rates starting to rise.

505
00:37:56,230 --> 00:38:00,230
What about tires and things like that?

506
00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:04,230
That all comes out of equipment maintenance.

507
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:08,230
That's why that maintenance is up there.

508
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:10,230
70 grand.

509
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:12,230
Roads and maintenance.

510
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:16,230
Hoses. I mean, hoses are expensive.

511
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:20,230
Everything's expensive. Oils.

512
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:22,230
Yeah, things aren't realized.

513
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:26,230
So Article 4 authorized the select board to sell town owned property

514
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:30,230
acquired by tax sale to any interested buyer, providing the interested

515
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:32,230
buyer is not a property exempt entity.

516
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:34,230
Mm-hmm.

517
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:36,230
That's always there.

518
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:38,230
That's always there.

519
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:40,230
Pretty much.

520
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:42,230
Sally is planning to have a tax sale this year.

521
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:47,030
Oh yeah, we talked about that anyway.

522
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:49,030
So Article 5.

523
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:57,210
Article 6.

524
00:38:57,210 --> 00:38:59,880
Article 5.

525
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,880
To borrow the sum.

526
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,880
So the 150 for the freightliner, we're going to borrow that from a bank.

527
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,980
Yeah, but it's going to be a ram.

528
00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:10,780
We're going to purchase a ram.

529
00:39:10,780 --> 00:39:13,000
Well, yeah.

530
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,000
So we're, you know, we're purchasing the ram instead of a freightliner.

531
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Yep.

532
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Yeah, you'd rather a one-ton truck.

533
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Yeah, well, 5500 is like a 1905 UDW, but that particular freightliner is a 26,000 pound truck.

534
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,000
But the, it seems like the reliability.

535
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,059
So the ram's kind of like an overbuilt one-ton, right?

536
00:39:39,059 --> 00:39:41,059
Yeah, but the maintenance-wise, it's easier to work with.

537
00:39:41,059 --> 00:39:43,059
Yeah, but the maintenance-wise, it's easier to work with.

538
00:39:43,059 --> 00:39:45,059
It's easier to work on.

539
00:39:45,059 --> 00:39:47,059
It seems cheaper for parts, repairs.

540
00:39:47,059 --> 00:39:49,059
And it's more reliable.

541
00:39:49,059 --> 00:39:51,059
Way more reliable.

542
00:39:51,059 --> 00:39:53,059
You can bring the ram to the garage where you can bring the freightliner to God knows who.

543
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:55,059
Freightliner, we've got to bring all the investments there.

544
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:57,059
Freightliner, we've got to bring all the investments there.

545
00:39:57,059 --> 00:39:59,059
Or have somebody come down.

546
00:39:59,059 --> 00:40:01,059
And you're really using it for what, plowing?

547
00:40:01,059 --> 00:40:03,059
And you're really using it for what, plowing?

548
00:40:03,059 --> 00:40:05,059
Like any trucking you need done, you have L or...

549
00:40:05,059 --> 00:40:07,059
I don't know if they need that.

550
00:40:07,059 --> 00:40:09,059
No, we'll make the first truck, yeah.

551
00:40:09,059 --> 00:40:11,059
Do you want to cover my crap?

552
00:40:11,059 --> 00:40:13,059
I'll let Mike call in.

553
00:40:13,059 --> 00:40:15,059
Doesn't matter.

554
00:40:15,059 --> 00:40:17,059
Just to keep me moving.

555
00:40:17,059 --> 00:40:19,059
Okay.

556
00:40:19,059 --> 00:40:21,059
So, Article 6.

557
00:40:21,059 --> 00:40:23,059
So that is going to be a bank loan.

558
00:40:23,059 --> 00:40:26,309
So that is going to be a bank loan.

559
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:28,309
Because the ram that we have now...

560
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:32,300
Because the ram that we have now...

561
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,550
The ram that we have now will be paid in June.

562
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:36,550
The ram that we have now will be paid in June.

563
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:38,550
So we're going to continue

564
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:40,940
with the ram.

565
00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:42,940
Just making payments.

566
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:44,940
We probably won't make a payment

567
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,480
until next year

568
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,480
or the year after.

569
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,769
Okay.

570
00:40:55,269 --> 00:40:59,539
That could be this year?

571
00:40:59,539 --> 00:41:02,659
Okay.

572
00:41:02,659 --> 00:41:04,659
Okay.

573
00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:11,210
Okay.

574
00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:13,210
Okay.

575
00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:15,429
So that's, you know,

576
00:41:15,429 --> 00:41:17,429
70 grand for a cabin chassis.

577
00:41:17,429 --> 00:41:19,980
Okay.

578
00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:22,230
So then,

579
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:24,230
Lori's printing something out for us

580
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:26,230
about the paving.

581
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:28,579
How are we going to pay

582
00:41:28,579 --> 00:41:30,579
for the paving?

583
00:41:30,579 --> 00:41:32,579
There's a couple options that she's worked out.

584
00:41:32,579 --> 00:41:34,579
Did you get a final cost of what it was all going to be?

585
00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:36,579
Did you get a final cost of what it was all going to be?

586
00:41:36,579 --> 00:41:38,579
Yeah, she's got a final...

587
00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:40,579
For everything that Dave wants to do.

588
00:41:40,579 --> 00:41:42,579
$588?

589
00:41:42,579 --> 00:41:44,579
I wasn't able to get loan, like,

590
00:41:44,579 --> 00:41:46,579
amounts.

591
00:41:46,579 --> 00:41:48,579
I think my joke is enough.

592
00:41:48,579 --> 00:41:50,579
Yeah.

593
00:41:50,579 --> 00:41:52,579
Well, Dave last time

594
00:41:52,579 --> 00:41:54,579
talked about different options.

595
00:41:54,579 --> 00:41:56,579
Can I give you this?

596
00:41:56,579 --> 00:41:58,579
I don't have it right now.

597
00:41:58,579 --> 00:42:00,579
I never took it with me the other day.

598
00:42:00,579 --> 00:42:02,579
Is it in your box still?

599
00:42:02,579 --> 00:42:07,590
No, I don't think it's there.

600
00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:09,590
So the chip seals,

601
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:11,590
the shim and chip seals

602
00:42:11,590 --> 00:42:13,590
are part of our normal

603
00:42:13,590 --> 00:42:17,579
every five year plan.

604
00:42:17,579 --> 00:42:19,579
And it actually...

605
00:42:19,579 --> 00:42:21,800
Do you chip seal part of Jepson?

606
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,800
So that's in there,

607
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,800
in this product.

608
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,800
Is that something you do every five years?

609
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,800
No.

610
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,800
Well, I can tell you.

611
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800
I did tell him before.

612
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,800
Yeah.

613
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,800
I can tell you the last time that was done.

614
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,800
They're not...

615
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,929
So what happens typically is I ride around

616
00:42:41,929 --> 00:42:43,929
with the salesman from Allstate

617
00:42:43,929 --> 00:42:45,929
and we kind of evaluate

618
00:42:45,929 --> 00:42:47,929
all our paid growths

619
00:42:47,929 --> 00:42:49,929
every five years.

620
00:42:49,929 --> 00:42:52,090
Then we decide which ones

621
00:42:52,090 --> 00:42:54,090
we need to do to be able to get through

622
00:42:54,090 --> 00:42:56,090
one or five without having

623
00:42:56,090 --> 00:42:59,269
any issues.

624
00:43:01,269 --> 00:43:08,260
I would say that...

625
00:43:08,260 --> 00:43:11,260
I don't have that chip sheet,

626
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:13,480
I don't think.

627
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,480
Right there in front of you.

628
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,480
Oh, this cheat sheet?

629
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,480
So that lower section

630
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,480
was done in 2010.

631
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:27,900
It looks like it's paved.

632
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:29,900
Well, it is a shim and a chip seal.

633
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,900
So you get some paving,

634
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:36,230
then the chip seal.

635
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:38,230
Probably run it off quick for the...

636
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:40,230
So the chip seal just saves on the black top.

637
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:42,230
Yeah, and it seals.

638
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:44,230
So sooner or later, the chip seal's gone

639
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:46,230
and you're down to the crease again.

640
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:48,679
So what happens is that...

641
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,840
Do you foresee this all getting done

642
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,840
in one shot or is this like a

643
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,840
piece here, piece there?

644
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,840
No, what they'll do is...

645
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,840
Let's just say we're going to do it all.

646
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,840
They'll come in and they'll run hot mix.

647
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,840
So they'll do whatever's getting shimmed

648
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,840
and paved.

649
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,869
And then they'll come back.

650
00:44:06,869 --> 00:44:09,059
Usually they wait a month or two.

651
00:44:09,059 --> 00:44:11,059
You need to wait at least two weeks

652
00:44:11,059 --> 00:44:13,059
before you do the chip seal.

653
00:44:13,059 --> 00:44:15,059
Because some of the oil has to penetrate

654
00:44:15,059 --> 00:44:17,059
out of the pavement

655
00:44:17,059 --> 00:44:19,059
in order for the chip seal to be put down.

656
00:44:19,059 --> 00:44:21,059
So article six

657
00:44:21,059 --> 00:44:23,059
is the resurface roads

658
00:44:23,059 --> 00:44:25,059
that have already been...

659
00:44:25,059 --> 00:44:27,059
So 600 grand

660
00:44:27,059 --> 00:44:29,059
and everything's not...

661
00:44:29,059 --> 00:44:31,059
And these two are new mileage?

662
00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:33,059
That would be extending it?

663
00:44:33,059 --> 00:44:35,059
Yeah.

664
00:44:35,059 --> 00:44:37,059
The rest of Jepson Road

665
00:44:37,059 --> 00:44:39,059
will get paved.

666
00:44:39,059 --> 00:44:41,059
The middle section.

667
00:44:41,059 --> 00:44:43,059
Right up to where...

668
00:44:43,059 --> 00:44:45,059
Yeah.

669
00:44:45,059 --> 00:44:47,059
And then LaSure Hill.

670
00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,159
So that little piece of bulge here.

671
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,159
Up LaSure Hill to the top

672
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,159
to where Daintwood comes to house.

673
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:55,260
Okay.

674
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,260
I know.

675
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,340
Once you get so much traffic

676
00:45:04,340 --> 00:45:06,340
people are just on the go.

677
00:45:06,340 --> 00:45:08,340
So five is something

678
00:45:08,340 --> 00:45:10,340
that we would typically have to do

679
00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:12,340
That's right.

680
00:45:12,340 --> 00:45:14,340
Seven and eight are kind of

681
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:16,340
going to be the additional

682
00:45:16,340 --> 00:45:18,340
to see if people want to do additional.

683
00:45:18,340 --> 00:45:20,340
So here's something to chew on.

684
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:22,340
So five years ago

685
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:24,340
we spent $235,000

686
00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:26,380
for the maintenance of this pavement.

687
00:45:26,380 --> 00:45:28,380
Right.

688
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:30,380
This year we're going to spend $130,000.

689
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:32,380
So that's almost

690
00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:34,380
leaving us $100,000

691
00:45:34,380 --> 00:45:37,050
you know

692
00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:39,139
like

693
00:45:39,139 --> 00:45:41,139
Yeah we're spending

694
00:45:41,139 --> 00:45:43,139
to spend on something else

695
00:45:43,139 --> 00:45:45,139
like paving Jepson Road.

696
00:45:45,139 --> 00:45:47,179
Right.

697
00:45:47,179 --> 00:45:49,179
So you're really getting

698
00:45:49,179 --> 00:45:51,239
you know the paving

699
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,239
on Jepson Road for like $125,000.

700
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Dave what did you say about the $235,000?

701
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Dave what did you say about the $235,000?

702
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,239
Well we spent in 2025

703
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,239
or whatever

704
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,239
Okay.

705
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,239
We didn't spend any of that.

706
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,239
So it's $200,000.

707
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,239
So it's $70,000.

708
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,300
$70,000 less

709
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,300
than we spent five years ago.

710
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:15,300
Right.

711
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:17,300
So that's $70,000

712
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:19,300
kind of that we can put almost towards

713
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:21,300
the extra paving of Jepson

714
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,300
before we start raising taxes.

715
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:25,460
But you know

716
00:46:25,460 --> 00:46:27,460
because we're not really

717
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:29,460
with the truck and the paving

718
00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:31,460
we're not really

719
00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:33,460
raising taxes on that.

720
00:46:33,460 --> 00:46:35,460
This is going to be the same taxes.

721
00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:38,389
Right that we always do.

722
00:46:38,389 --> 00:46:40,389
Okay so.

723
00:46:40,389 --> 00:46:42,389
Yeah well that's bad John.

724
00:46:42,389 --> 00:46:44,389
That's bad.

725
00:46:44,389 --> 00:46:46,460
That's probably the worst law at this point.

726
00:46:46,460 --> 00:46:48,460
And I thought it was just done in

727
00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:50,460
2010.

728
00:46:50,460 --> 00:46:54,380
So that's 16 years.

729
00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:56,380
See what I'm saying?

730
00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:58,380
See this is when I tried to help them

731
00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:00,380
and they start talking about

732
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:02,380
oh geez you just need to do the paving

733
00:47:02,380 --> 00:47:05,239
because the chip seal doesn't last.

734
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,239
16 years we got out of that

735
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,239
and I'll bet you we didn't pay hardly

736
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,239
didn't we squat to do that 16 years ago.

737
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239
We did all those roads

738
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,239
for 200,000 in 2010.

739
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,239
Yeah imagine 7 and 8 will be a point

740
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,239
of discussion. Yes.

741
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,460
So.

742
00:47:21,460 --> 00:47:24,300
600 grand you get all that.

743
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:26,300
Get it done.

744
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:28,300
It's not really a bad deal.

745
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:30,300
I mean you gotta hope people are thinking a little long term too.

746
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:32,300
Well there's different options though.

747
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,300
So the Jepson part

748
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:36,300
we can apply for

749
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,300
That's another yes we should put that

750
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:40,300
in the town report.

751
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,300
The Jepson road.

752
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,300
Which currently doesn't pay all of us.

753
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:46,300
Right.

754
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,579
Jepson road would qualify

755
00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:50,579
listen or not

756
00:47:50,579 --> 00:47:52,579
qualify for

757
00:47:52,579 --> 00:47:54,579
grants after it's paid.

758
00:47:54,579 --> 00:47:56,579
Right.

759
00:47:56,579 --> 00:47:58,579
I could apply to help with the

760
00:47:58,579 --> 00:48:00,579
I don't know when that grant's coming out

761
00:48:00,579 --> 00:48:02,840
to be able to put in for it

762
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,840
but by the time we do it

763
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,840
I don't think we got time

764
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,840
I don't know if that will work out for this year.

765
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,579
Okay so

766
00:48:11,579 --> 00:48:13,579
We've been talking throughout

767
00:48:13,579 --> 00:48:15,579
the rest of Jepson for a long time.

768
00:48:15,579 --> 00:48:17,579
We just paid

769
00:48:17,579 --> 00:48:19,579
What would be the increase on everything?

770
00:48:19,579 --> 00:48:21,579
I knew you were going to ask that

771
00:48:21,579 --> 00:48:23,579
I didn't figure it out because I didn't know where we were going.

772
00:48:23,579 --> 00:48:25,579
Ask them we'll see.

773
00:48:25,579 --> 00:48:27,579
Ask them and we'll see what happens.

774
00:48:27,579 --> 00:48:29,579
So what's the total figure on there?

775
00:48:29,579 --> 00:48:31,579
How much is it going to cost?

776
00:48:31,579 --> 00:48:33,579
600,000 that's what they want to know.

777
00:48:33,579 --> 00:48:35,579
How much is it going to be in your tax?

778
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:37,579
Per household.

779
00:48:37,579 --> 00:48:39,579
The benefit of like

780
00:48:39,579 --> 00:48:41,579
when you broke down the prices like this

781
00:48:41,579 --> 00:48:43,579
is what it would actually cost you on your taxes.

782
00:48:43,579 --> 00:48:45,579
Right. That's what I wanted to ask you.

783
00:48:45,579 --> 00:48:47,579
I didn't figure it out because I didn't know

784
00:48:47,579 --> 00:48:49,579
if we wanted that in the town report or not.

785
00:48:49,579 --> 00:48:51,579
I think it's helpful

786
00:48:51,579 --> 00:48:53,579
to people to see that it's really

787
00:48:53,579 --> 00:48:55,579
not costing that much money.

788
00:48:55,579 --> 00:48:57,579
Because they're going to see the 600,000.

789
00:48:57,579 --> 00:48:59,579
Yeah.

790
00:48:59,579 --> 00:49:01,579
But it's not even 600.

791
00:49:01,579 --> 00:49:03,579
Because you've got to take the 70 out of it

792
00:49:03,579 --> 00:49:05,579
before you start.

793
00:49:05,579 --> 00:49:07,579
Then that's what you're actually

794
00:49:07,579 --> 00:49:09,579
I think that is beneficial to have.

795
00:49:09,579 --> 00:49:11,579
So this is what we had in the last

796
00:49:11,579 --> 00:49:13,579
town report.

797
00:49:13,579 --> 00:49:15,579
This isn't appropriate.

798
00:49:15,579 --> 00:49:17,579
This is the tax

799
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:19,579
for each approved town article.

800
00:49:19,579 --> 00:49:21,579
So if you approve

801
00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:23,579
the town, all the articles in the town,

802
00:49:23,579 --> 00:49:25,579
this is what your tax

803
00:49:25,579 --> 00:49:27,579
would be.

804
00:49:27,579 --> 00:49:29,579
The total increase of your taxes.

805
00:49:29,579 --> 00:49:31,579
I like that because people realize

806
00:49:31,579 --> 00:49:33,579
they just look at a whole number and they're like

807
00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:35,579
holy cow that's a lot. It's a huge budget.

808
00:49:35,579 --> 00:49:37,579
But then if they break things down

809
00:49:37,579 --> 00:49:39,579
they're like oh that cost me 25 bucks.

810
00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:43,579
Then you're going to have people like

811
00:49:43,579 --> 00:49:45,579
well what about my road?

812
00:49:45,579 --> 00:49:47,579
You're always going to get that.

813
00:49:47,579 --> 00:49:49,579
But for us it's about 70,000 a year.

814
00:49:49,579 --> 00:49:51,579
So what's it going to cost

815
00:49:51,579 --> 00:49:53,579
for 70,000 a year?

816
00:49:53,579 --> 00:49:55,579
And then figure it out.

817
00:49:55,579 --> 00:49:57,579
When people say what about my road you just say

818
00:49:57,579 --> 00:49:59,579
well we've got to start somewhere

819
00:49:59,579 --> 00:50:01,579
and they're just stacking the first block.

820
00:50:01,579 --> 00:50:03,579
They're going to be like what about Mill Road?

821
00:50:03,579 --> 00:50:05,579
They want some Mill Road.

822
00:50:05,579 --> 00:50:07,579
It's a paved Mill Road so the landslide

823
00:50:07,579 --> 00:50:09,579
can take it all out.

824
00:50:09,579 --> 00:50:11,579
We've got 14, 10 or 12

825
00:50:11,579 --> 00:50:13,579
paved roads in Tennessee.

826
00:50:13,579 --> 00:50:15,579
It's about half and half.

827
00:50:15,579 --> 00:50:17,579
And you've gone through a cycle

828
00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:19,579
here that you've done them almost all

829
00:50:19,579 --> 00:50:21,579
and now you're keeping up with the cycle.

830
00:50:21,579 --> 00:50:23,579
The rest of Jefferson makes sense.

831
00:50:23,579 --> 00:50:25,579
We've been talking about that for a long time.

832
00:50:25,579 --> 00:50:27,579
And it's a road that's not going anywhere.

833
00:50:27,579 --> 00:50:29,579
It's going to be there.

834
00:50:29,579 --> 00:50:31,579
It's a major collector.

835
00:50:31,579 --> 00:50:33,579
And the sure roads are only going to grow

836
00:50:33,579 --> 00:50:35,579
from here so there's going to be

837
00:50:35,579 --> 00:50:37,579
people that want to build them.

838
00:50:37,579 --> 00:50:39,579
And it has grown.

839
00:50:39,579 --> 00:50:41,579
This is the next spot.

840
00:50:41,579 --> 00:50:43,579
That's the Pismo.

841
00:50:43,579 --> 00:50:45,579
You forget about it

842
00:50:45,579 --> 00:50:47,579
but there's a lot of big money homes up there.

843
00:50:47,579 --> 00:50:49,579
Up where on LaShore?

844
00:50:49,579 --> 00:50:51,579
LaShore and Bulger.

845
00:50:51,579 --> 00:50:53,579
I think Deb just approved a building

846
00:50:53,579 --> 00:50:55,579
for Sparrow Drive.

847
00:50:55,579 --> 00:50:57,579
And

848
00:50:57,579 --> 00:50:59,579
a house up there.

849
00:50:59,579 --> 00:51:01,579
That's another thing she did.

850
00:51:01,579 --> 00:51:03,579
That actually used to connect

851
00:51:03,579 --> 00:51:05,579
to LaShore Road.

852
00:51:05,579 --> 00:51:07,579
Is there a connector trail

853
00:51:07,579 --> 00:51:09,579
from Sparrow to LaShore?

854
00:51:09,579 --> 00:51:11,579
County to LaShore.

855
00:51:11,579 --> 00:51:13,579
Well there's a legal trail from County Road to LaShore.

856
00:51:13,579 --> 00:51:15,579
But there's a four-wheeler trail.

857
00:51:15,579 --> 00:51:17,579
You can connect it to it almost.

858
00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:19,579
So you do want this in the town report?

859
00:51:19,579 --> 00:51:21,579
I think it would be beneficial.

860
00:51:21,579 --> 00:51:23,579
I think that's very helpful to people because

861
00:51:23,579 --> 00:51:25,579
they're going to see 600 grand.

862
00:51:25,579 --> 00:51:27,579
They can see the breakdown of it all.

863
00:51:27,579 --> 00:51:29,579
And it makes more sense.

864
00:51:29,579 --> 00:51:31,639
What was the 70,000 increase

865
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:33,639
in the taxes?

866
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:35,639
Did we ever put it in the town report?

867
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:37,639
Every 100,000.

868
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:39,639
20 bucks.

869
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:41,639
That's what it amounts to.

870
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:43,639
We're going to take a loan for five years.

871
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,639
Maybe look three or four years back.

872
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:47,639
But the grand list

873
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:49,639
has gone way up, too.

874
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:51,639
We put that in the town report.

875
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:53,639
They need to realize that

876
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:55,639
it's not 1934 anymore.

877
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:57,639
I did something today.

878
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:00,119
And things cost money.

879
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:02,119
And every year, yeah,

880
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,119
it's going to continually go up.

881
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,119
At some point, you know,

882
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:09,780
people are going to fall over.

883
00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:11,780
I thought I put it on something today.

884
00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:13,780
You're right. Everything does go up.

885
00:52:13,780 --> 00:52:15,780
We're trying to keep the struggle up.

886
00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:17,780
I'd love to be like,

887
00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:19,780
hey, everybody's free.

888
00:52:19,780 --> 00:52:21,780
But that's not how the world works, unfortunately.

889
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:23,780
It's just a struggle.

890
00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:25,780
Every little town is paying for all this stuff.

891
00:52:25,780 --> 00:52:27,780
That's why things like

892
00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:29,780
when people don't pay any attention.

893
00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:31,780
I was having a conversation with somebody

894
00:52:31,780 --> 00:52:33,780
about the dump.

895
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:35,780
All the taxpayers in town

896
00:52:35,780 --> 00:52:37,780
pay to operate that dump, right?

897
00:52:37,780 --> 00:52:39,780
And then the people that already paid taxes

898
00:52:39,780 --> 00:52:41,780
had to come down and buy a thing.

899
00:52:41,780 --> 00:52:43,780
So they're technically double paying.

900
00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:45,780
Well, that part of it,

901
00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:47,780
we didn't want it.

902
00:52:47,780 --> 00:52:49,780
You're trying to get some of your money back.

903
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:51,780
The state forces

904
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:53,780
in the cost for that.

905
00:52:53,780 --> 00:52:55,780
It's mostly for public health standards, too.

906
00:52:55,780 --> 00:52:57,780
Because if you don't have

907
00:52:57,780 --> 00:52:59,780
a place where people can

908
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:01,780
dispose of their trash.

909
00:53:01,780 --> 00:53:03,780
So I'm paying for the dump,

910
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:05,780
and I don't utilize it.

911
00:53:05,780 --> 00:53:07,780
I live on Route 8 and 100.

912
00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:09,780
I shouldn't want to pay for any of that stuff, right?

913
00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:11,780
But we live in a whole town

914
00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:13,780
where we all got to try to continue

915
00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:15,780
to do that.

916
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:17,780
Yeah, there's people paying for kids.

917
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:19,780
If I was just strictly by my own wallet,

918
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:21,780
I would vote no for all this stuff.

919
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:23,780
Oh, there's people like that.

920
00:53:23,780 --> 00:53:25,780
Well, I'm voting for Brookside jobs,

921
00:53:25,780 --> 00:53:27,780
so I'm voting for that.

922
00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:29,780
But you've got to have

923
00:53:29,780 --> 00:53:31,780
the same philosophy that people have at the school.

924
00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:33,780
For years, there's been a second population

925
00:53:33,780 --> 00:53:35,780
that's getting older and all that.

926
00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:37,780
Why should I have to pay taxes

927
00:53:37,780 --> 00:53:40,360
if I don't have any kids in school?

928
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,360
So if it went up $200,000.

929
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,360
Okay, here's a $375,000 house.

930
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,360
$300,000.

931
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,360
Seven acres of land in my house.

932
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,360
Just for the town tax.

933
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,360
Only the town stuff.

934
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,619
$580,000.

935
00:53:54,619 --> 00:53:57,480
And that is

936
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,480
no highway or anything in there.

937
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,480
So if the town part

938
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,480
went up $200,000,

939
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,480
I'd be paying

940
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,920
$600 more

941
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,980
just on the town.

942
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:12,980
It doesn't seem possible,

943
00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:14,980
but it did.

944
00:54:14,980 --> 00:54:16,980
The calculation went in there,

945
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:19,500
and I don't know why.

946
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:22,650
$300,000.

947
00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:26,789
Or that was $200,000.

948
00:54:26,789 --> 00:54:28,789
And then if it went up $300,000,

949
00:54:28,789 --> 00:54:31,820
probably

950
00:54:31,820 --> 00:54:35,860
two and a half times more.

951
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:44,619
I'll send you the calculation, boys.

952
00:54:44,619 --> 00:54:46,780
But at some point,

953
00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:49,059
would it go back down?

954
00:54:49,059 --> 00:54:51,449
Long term, which is going to be

955
00:54:51,449 --> 00:54:53,449
a hidden cost to most people.

956
00:54:53,449 --> 00:54:55,449
So you have to pay the $600,000,

957
00:54:55,449 --> 00:54:58,409
all right, so then it's paid.

958
00:54:58,409 --> 00:55:01,019
A lot of people don't ever add up

959
00:55:01,019 --> 00:55:03,019
the hidden costs.

960
00:55:03,019 --> 00:55:05,019
That's just going to be kind of lost

961
00:55:05,019 --> 00:55:07,019
in the wind.

962
00:55:07,019 --> 00:55:09,210
The grader's like 30 years old now, too, guys.

963
00:55:09,210 --> 00:55:11,210
So these high maintenance roads

964
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:13,210
are on constant grading.

965
00:55:13,210 --> 00:55:16,329
The other ones are

966
00:55:16,329 --> 00:55:18,329
once a year.

967
00:55:18,329 --> 00:55:20,329
So that grader, you can extend the life.

968
00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:22,329
That's why I say people

969
00:55:22,329 --> 00:55:24,329
have to have long-term vision.

970
00:55:24,329 --> 00:55:26,329
Once the project's paid for,

971
00:55:26,329 --> 00:55:28,329
they've got to go back down.

972
00:55:28,329 --> 00:55:30,329
It's never going down,

973
00:55:30,329 --> 00:55:32,329
but Jepson, there's opportunities

974
00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:34,329
to save money, because we can put in

975
00:55:34,329 --> 00:55:36,329
more maintenance.

976
00:55:36,329 --> 00:55:38,329
So it's not a guarantee,

977
00:55:38,329 --> 00:55:40,329
but at some point, we're going to get it.

978
00:55:40,329 --> 00:55:42,329
I mean, we just did all of each road,

979
00:55:42,329 --> 00:55:44,329
and that didn't cost the town anything.

980
00:55:44,329 --> 00:55:46,329
Nothing.

981
00:55:46,329 --> 00:55:48,329
There's always going to be another project.

982
00:55:48,329 --> 00:55:50,329
It's an interesting debate.

983
00:55:50,329 --> 00:55:52,329
It'll be a good discussion.

984
00:55:52,329 --> 00:55:54,329
It's like a leap of faith in a way,

985
00:55:54,329 --> 00:55:56,329
but the savings are in being able

986
00:55:56,329 --> 00:55:58,329
to prevent other issues

987
00:55:58,329 --> 00:56:00,329
by being able to maintain,

988
00:56:00,329 --> 00:56:02,679
you know,

989
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:04,679
do other maintenance projects.

990
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:06,679
You're not constantly pulled to

991
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,679
do the same stuff over and over.

992
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:10,679
I will say that the townspeople

993
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:12,679
didn't want to pay for a sheriff,

994
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:14,679
which was $50, $45, $60,

995
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:16,679
whatever amount.

996
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:18,679
They didn't want to pay for a radar sign,

997
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:20,679
which was peanuts, right?

998
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:22,679
So here you are

999
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:24,679
trying to get $600,000.

1000
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:26,809
I'm going to go out on a limb

1001
00:56:26,809 --> 00:56:28,809
and probably say they're going to vote no,

1002
00:56:28,809 --> 00:56:30,809
but we'll see.

1003
00:56:30,809 --> 00:56:32,809
Well, I'm glad you have it broken up.

1004
00:56:32,809 --> 00:56:34,809
There's some arguments to be had

1005
00:56:34,809 --> 00:56:36,809
so I mean it depends where you stand

1006
00:56:36,809 --> 00:56:38,809
on development or no development, too.

1007
00:56:38,809 --> 00:56:40,809
That all leads into discussions about roads

1008
00:56:40,809 --> 00:56:42,809
and whether roads are worth paying for.

1009
00:56:42,809 --> 00:56:44,940
We already know there's

1010
00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:46,940
the land up there on the shore road,

1011
00:56:46,940 --> 00:56:48,940
there's one lot that's sold,

1012
00:56:48,940 --> 00:56:50,940
could be developed,

1013
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:52,940
and then Mr. Gardner has

1014
00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:54,940
what, he's subdivided into

1015
00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:56,940
three lots up there.

1016
00:56:56,940 --> 00:56:58,940
People that are buying a lot of the lots around

1017
00:56:58,940 --> 00:57:00,940
do you think it's more appealing to them

1018
00:57:00,940 --> 00:57:02,940
if the roads are dirt or tar?

1019
00:57:02,940 --> 00:57:04,940
I'm just thinking use.

1020
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:06,940
Use of it's gone up considerably

1021
00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:08,940
over the last, since I've worked here

1022
00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:10,940
because there's more houses.

1023
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:13,349
There's one,

1024
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:15,349
two, three,

1025
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:17,349
four, five more houses up there.

1026
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:19,349
30 years ago

1027
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:21,349
30 years ago you could park

1028
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:23,349
on the top of the shore road.

1029
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:25,349
And even up

1030
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:27,349
on the top of the shore road,

1031
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:29,349
if in a couple years we continue

1032
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:31,349
paving the shore road,

1033
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:33,349
the top of it,

1034
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:35,349
a couple years ago we put $60,000

1035
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:37,349
into the spring mud up there.

1036
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:39,349
Was that John Bold's?

1037
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:41,349
I mean, there's a lot of arguments to be made.

1038
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:43,349
If it's paved, maybe more people want to build

1039
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:45,349
and develop, right? Then they get more

1040
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:47,349
people that are actually contributing

1041
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:49,349
to the tax rate. But then,

1042
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:51,349
you know, what do they bring? Do they bring

1043
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:53,349
four kids that want to go to high school

1044
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:55,349
or are they just a second home?

1045
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:57,349
Stanford is slowly turning into like a

1046
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:59,349
weekend, you know,

1047
00:57:59,349 --> 00:58:01,349
or escape. That's probably not a bad thing though.

1048
00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:03,349
I mean, it all depends

1049
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:05,349
on the school and there's only one other one direction

1050
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:07,349
to go.

1051
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:09,349
Middle-class people with kids.

1052
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:11,349
Article 6 then. The town release

1053
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:13,349
up to $131,000 from the land sale

1054
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:15,829
invested funds.

1055
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:17,829
That we have the money already.

1056
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:19,829
We have $170,000.

1057
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:22,119
Oh, so that will go towards the $600,000?

1058
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:24,699
Right.

1059
00:58:24,699 --> 00:58:26,699
Like I said, we're really not increasing.

1060
00:58:26,699 --> 00:58:28,699
So you're looking at $470,000.

1061
00:58:28,699 --> 00:58:30,699
The land sale's got

1062
00:58:30,699 --> 00:58:32,699
$178,000 in there.

1063
00:58:32,699 --> 00:58:34,699
Well, because we're currently

1064
00:58:34,699 --> 00:58:36,699
paying a loan for $200,000.

1065
00:58:36,699 --> 00:58:39,590
That was only $130,000.

1066
00:58:39,590 --> 00:58:41,590
So I'm just...

1067
00:58:41,590 --> 00:58:43,590
We're going to pay ourselves back

1068
00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:45,590
that land sale money.

1069
00:58:45,590 --> 00:58:47,590
I think with a good explanation

1070
00:58:47,590 --> 00:58:49,590
it might...

1071
00:58:49,590 --> 00:58:51,590
So you need to

1072
00:58:51,590 --> 00:58:53,590
raise something around $400,000.

1073
00:58:53,590 --> 00:58:55,590
No, because you're already paying it.

1074
00:58:55,590 --> 00:58:57,590
You're just continuing what you were already paying.

1075
00:58:57,590 --> 00:58:59,590
But we're already

1076
00:58:59,590 --> 00:59:01,590
paying on $200,000.

1077
00:59:01,590 --> 00:59:03,590
So what I'm saying is there's $70,000

1078
00:59:03,590 --> 00:59:05,590
to take off the remainder of it in reality.

1079
00:59:05,590 --> 00:59:07,590
So you take the $70,000 off

1080
00:59:07,590 --> 00:59:09,590
and use that number to figure

1081
00:59:09,590 --> 00:59:11,590
out how much more you're taxing people.

1082
00:59:11,590 --> 00:59:15,800
Okay, so...

1083
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,800
Article 6.

1084
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,119
We're pretty sure that will pass.

1085
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:22,469
That's the 131.

1086
00:59:22,469 --> 00:59:24,469
Keeping up with...

1087
00:59:24,469 --> 00:59:26,469
And in the Select Board's

1088
00:59:26,469 --> 00:59:28,469
report we're going to say something about

1089
00:59:28,469 --> 00:59:30,469
it's on the maintenance, the five year

1090
00:59:30,469 --> 00:59:32,500
maintenance plan and

1091
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,570
recycle or something.

1092
00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:36,630
And then...

1093
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:38,789
And that's

1094
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:40,789
a loan. You've never...

1095
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:42,789
You'd never be able to maintain

1096
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:45,340
what was a dirt road.

1097
00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:47,750
I mean, that was 16 years.

1098
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:49,750
It's got to be interesting to think about it, I think.

1099
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:51,750
Article 7.

1100
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:53,750
Borrow some not to exceed

1101
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:55,750
$276,000 for paving the remaining

1102
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:57,750
gravel portion of Jepson. I think that

1103
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:59,750
would pass because it looks pretty dumb

1104
00:59:59,750 --> 01:00:01,750
now that you're blacktop,

1105
01:00:01,750 --> 01:00:03,750
gravel, blacktop.

1106
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:06,389
No, blacktop,

1107
01:00:06,389 --> 01:00:08,389
gravel, and then blacktop.

1108
01:00:08,389 --> 01:00:12,440
And then while the paver

1109
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,440
is here, go up LeSure Road.

1110
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,440
I don't know what the cost

1111
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,440
is that.

1112
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,440
And now these prices are all based on

1113
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,570
like this year's price.

1114
01:00:22,570 --> 01:00:24,570
Are those ditches on Jepson

1115
01:00:24,570 --> 01:00:26,570
stone lined or gravel?

1116
01:00:26,570 --> 01:00:31,610
They're stone lined.

1117
01:00:31,610 --> 01:00:33,610
So on your LeSure Hill,

1118
01:00:33,610 --> 01:00:35,610
will it start where it hooks onto Jepson

1119
01:00:35,610 --> 01:00:37,610
or will it just start at the hill?

1120
01:00:37,610 --> 01:00:39,610
No, it'll start right there at the Jepson

1121
01:00:39,610 --> 01:00:41,610
intersection.

1122
01:00:41,610 --> 01:00:44,469
It's a little bit of boulder road and then

1123
01:00:44,469 --> 01:00:46,469
it just makes sense.

1124
01:00:46,469 --> 01:00:48,469
Oh yeah, to go off of Jepson and go up.

1125
01:00:48,469 --> 01:00:50,469
Even though that's Boulger.

1126
01:00:50,469 --> 01:00:52,760
Right.

1127
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,760
So we'll have to say something

1128
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,760
in the town report about that.

1129
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,760
I think they're both

1130
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,400
worthwhile. I think

1131
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,400
once you bite the bullet down

1132
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,690
the road, you're going to be glad.

1133
01:01:05,690 --> 01:01:07,690
Yeah, I think if you're going to claim it to people

1134
01:01:07,690 --> 01:01:09,690
or whoever who beat us like that,

1135
01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:13,639
I think they'll...

1136
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:15,639
Just to throw this out

1137
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:17,639
there, when I asked about paving

1138
01:01:17,639 --> 01:01:19,639
the LeSure Road section

1139
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:21,639
years ago, the guy told me half a million.

1140
01:01:21,639 --> 01:01:23,639
Now he's talking 180.

1141
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:25,639
Yeah.

1142
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:27,639
Why?

1143
01:01:27,639 --> 01:01:29,639
Times are tough in the state, man.

1144
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:31,639
You're just saying, must be they want to do it pretty bad.

1145
01:01:31,639 --> 01:01:33,639
Yeah, they want to do work.

1146
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:35,639
All states pretty much

1147
01:01:35,639 --> 01:01:37,639
runs the blacktop department.

1148
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:39,639
Yeah, they own everybody now.

1149
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:41,639
More or less.

1150
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:43,800
They've taken over the marquees.

1151
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,800
But they'll...

1152
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,800
So they can put it down

1153
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,800
for what they were selling it

1154
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,800
to the local guy to just buy the mix.

1155
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,800
So you really can't even compete with them.

1156
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,630
Might be a time to jump on it.

1157
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:58,630
I mean, when we paved the school

1158
01:01:58,630 --> 01:02:00,630
parking lot, Burt kind of

1159
01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:02,630
prepped it and then had them do it

1160
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:04,980
because he couldn't even...

1161
01:02:04,980 --> 01:02:06,980
For what they did it for,

1162
01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:08,980
it would have cost him that much

1163
01:02:08,980 --> 01:02:10,980
to go buy the mix from them.

1164
01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:13,429
So he was smart

1165
01:02:13,429 --> 01:02:15,429
to call and say, what do you...

1166
01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:17,429
They put it down for what he would have...

1167
01:02:17,429 --> 01:02:19,429
He didn't have to do all that work.

1168
01:02:19,429 --> 01:02:21,429
It's crazy.

1169
01:02:21,429 --> 01:02:23,429
Yeah.

1170
01:02:23,429 --> 01:02:26,679
Okay, so

1171
01:02:26,679 --> 01:02:28,679
we're good with

1172
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:30,679
Article 7, Article 8.

1173
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:32,679
We're going to have to borrow that money.

1174
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:36,380
So we're borrowing that

1175
01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:38,380
from the land sale fund.

1176
01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,599
And that will have to take a loan out

1177
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:42,599
from the bank

1178
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:45,659
for the other two articles.

1179
01:02:45,659 --> 01:02:49,059
David talked about

1180
01:02:49,059 --> 01:02:51,059
going out longer

1181
01:02:51,059 --> 01:02:53,059
on one of the loans.

1182
01:02:53,059 --> 01:02:56,949
But a town cannot go out

1183
01:02:56,949 --> 01:02:58,949
longer than five years

1184
01:02:58,949 --> 01:03:01,110
without bonding.

1185
01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:03,110
And Lori can explain about bonding

1186
01:03:03,110 --> 01:03:05,110
for the town.

1187
01:03:05,110 --> 01:03:07,110
If somebody asks about that,

1188
01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:09,110
going out ten years, because

1189
01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:11,460
the blacktop's going to stay there.

1190
01:03:11,460 --> 01:03:13,460
We could do it.

1191
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:15,460
It's considered long-term debt,

1192
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:17,460
so it has to have special voter approval.

1193
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:19,909
The bonding process,

1194
01:03:19,909 --> 01:03:21,909
you have to hire

1195
01:03:21,909 --> 01:03:23,980
an attorney who does

1196
01:03:23,980 --> 01:03:25,980
bonding, so our town attorney

1197
01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:27,980
couldn't do it. We'd have to hire

1198
01:03:27,980 --> 01:03:29,980
a bonding attorney, probably someone from

1199
01:03:29,980 --> 01:03:31,980
the local bank.

1200
01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:33,980
It's probably a $4,000 or $5,000 cost.

1201
01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:36,039
We'd have to do a special

1202
01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:38,039
publication,

1203
01:03:38,039 --> 01:03:40,039
which is another probably $1,000 cost

1204
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:42,039
three times.

1205
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:44,199
It's a lengthy process.

1206
01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:46,199
And at the end of the day,

1207
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:48,199
once you get approval to bond,

1208
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:50,199
then you can choose to either

1209
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:52,199
borrow from the bond bank

1210
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:54,199
that often has lower rates

1211
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:56,199
than what you could get at local banks.

1212
01:03:56,199 --> 01:03:58,199
Or you can still go through a local bank.

1213
01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:00,619
But you need several months

1214
01:04:00,619 --> 01:04:02,619
to go through that whole process

1215
01:04:02,619 --> 01:04:04,619
and get to the point where

1216
01:04:04,619 --> 01:04:06,619
you can have a town vote.

1217
01:04:06,619 --> 01:04:08,619
There was no way I could pull it

1218
01:04:08,619 --> 01:04:10,619
together for this March.

1219
01:04:10,619 --> 01:04:12,619
I could probably

1220
01:04:12,619 --> 01:04:14,619
do it by either the August.

1221
01:04:14,619 --> 01:04:16,619
We have an August

1222
01:04:16,619 --> 01:04:18,900
and a November vote

1223
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:20,900
if you want to plan on

1224
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:22,900
getting all your ducks in a row

1225
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:24,900
and paperwork ready. But now you're looking at

1226
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:26,900
waiting another year and having

1227
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:28,900
probably higher costs to do it.

1228
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:30,900
Does it have to be an Australian ballot?

1229
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:32,900
Yep.

1230
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:34,900
Oh, okay.

1231
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:36,900
So you'd have to have a public meeting first?

1232
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:38,900
Public meeting first.

1233
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:40,900
I'd have to hire the ballot clerks

1234
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:45,079
and we'd have to have an all-day election.

1235
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:47,079
So, in order to have done this

1236
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:49,079
in March, usually the town clerks

1237
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:51,340
start it

1238
01:04:51,340 --> 01:04:54,070
last fall.

1239
01:04:54,070 --> 01:04:56,579
I feel like doing some of this

1240
01:04:56,579 --> 01:04:58,650
paving, especially on some of these

1241
01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:00,650
high maintenance rows, is a sustainability.

1242
01:05:00,650 --> 01:05:07,289
If you don't do it,

1243
01:05:07,289 --> 01:05:09,289
You need to explain to them

1244
01:05:09,289 --> 01:05:11,289
that every year

1245
01:05:11,289 --> 01:05:13,289
I have to buy gravel

1246
01:05:13,289 --> 01:05:15,289
and I have to pay John Boll

1247
01:05:15,289 --> 01:05:17,289
or somebody to truck the stuff

1248
01:05:17,289 --> 01:05:19,579
and if you

1249
01:05:19,579 --> 01:05:21,579
pave it, then it eliminates

1250
01:05:21,579 --> 01:05:23,579
the cost of all this stuff.

1251
01:05:23,579 --> 01:05:25,579
You've got to be ready to explain all this stuff.

1252
01:05:25,579 --> 01:05:27,579
It rains and you're losing your money.

1253
01:05:27,579 --> 01:05:29,579
It's like you're plowing it off

1254
01:05:29,579 --> 01:05:31,579
in the winter. You're losing it in the summer

1255
01:05:31,579 --> 01:05:33,579
to dust and rain.

1256
01:05:33,579 --> 01:05:35,579
Then you've got to dig out the ditches

1257
01:05:35,579 --> 01:05:37,579
more often.

1258
01:05:37,579 --> 01:05:39,579
The calcium that you've sprayed on

1259
01:05:39,579 --> 01:05:41,579
all of that.

1260
01:05:41,579 --> 01:05:43,579
Not to mention

1261
01:05:43,579 --> 01:05:45,579
people's vehicles.

1262
01:05:45,579 --> 01:05:47,579
You're not going to be beating your vehicle to death.

1263
01:05:47,579 --> 01:05:49,579
That's true.

1264
01:05:49,579 --> 01:05:51,579
All the hidden costs, they've got to understand.

1265
01:05:51,579 --> 01:05:53,579
It's not showing up on the paper.

1266
01:05:55,579 --> 01:05:57,579
So we're good with

1267
01:05:57,579 --> 01:05:59,579
Article 6, 7, and 8.

1268
01:05:59,579 --> 01:06:01,579
Article 9, to eliminate the office of Lister

1269
01:06:01,579 --> 01:06:03,579
and that's

1270
01:06:03,579 --> 01:06:05,579
going to be in our town report.

1271
01:06:05,579 --> 01:06:08,760
It seems

1272
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,760
to be

1273
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,760
You can't get anybody to do it,

1274
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,760
so why even have the position?

1275
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,760
And it's getting

1276
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,760
the training and the education

1277
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,760
is getting

1278
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,760
So you're relying on people like Nimrick

1279
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,760
or whoever to constantly have to evaluate

1280
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,760
the town's appraisal.

1281
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,760
You're going to step up as a Lister now sometimes.

1282
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,760
Yeah, no one took out papers

1283
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,760
to beat a Lister.

1284
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Maybe they'll just

1285
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,760
go for a run in.

1286
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,760
Everybody's a Monday morning quarterback

1287
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,760
at the time.

1288
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,760
That's true.

1289
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,760
If I was throwing the ball,

1290
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,760
I could have won.

1291
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,760
Then the cemetery

1292
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,760
is down from last year.

1293
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,760
The library is

1294
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,760
up $4,000

1295
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,820
from last year.

1296
01:06:56,820 --> 01:06:58,820
Except the volunteer fire department,

1297
01:06:58,820 --> 01:07:00,820
that's voted on every five years.

1298
01:07:00,820 --> 01:07:02,820
Raise and appropriate

1299
01:07:02,820 --> 01:07:04,820
for the fire department,

1300
01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:07,079
that's up $1,000.

1301
01:07:07,079 --> 01:07:09,079
And then Article 14 is normal.

1302
01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:11,429
Looks good to me.

1303
01:07:11,429 --> 01:07:13,429
So,

1304
01:07:13,429 --> 01:07:15,429
go for it.

1305
01:07:15,429 --> 01:07:17,500
Go for it.

1306
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:19,500
Make a motion, sign for it?

1307
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:21,590
Make a motion.

1308
01:07:21,590 --> 01:07:24,300
Lori, what a relief.

1309
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:26,300
How would you like to

1310
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:28,489
do we just have this

1311
01:07:28,489 --> 01:07:30,489
and have a hole for Doug

1312
01:07:30,489 --> 01:07:32,489
and a hole for Mike?

1313
01:07:32,489 --> 01:07:34,550
Is there a proper way to

1314
01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:36,550
Well, Mike, we don't

1315
01:07:36,550 --> 01:07:38,550
He'll sign it.

1316
01:07:38,550 --> 01:07:40,550
Well, he's not here

1317
01:07:40,550 --> 01:07:42,550
to do it.

1318
01:07:42,550 --> 01:07:44,550
We need the three of you.

1319
01:07:44,550 --> 01:07:46,550
And I guess it doesn't matter for Mike,

1320
01:07:46,550 --> 01:07:48,809
but I don't know if you just leave

1321
01:07:48,809 --> 01:07:50,809
Some years you just put the names

1322
01:07:50,809 --> 01:07:53,579
without signatures.

1323
01:07:53,579 --> 01:07:55,579
Like on the back here.

1324
01:07:55,579 --> 01:07:57,579
We could just do that for what goes

1325
01:07:57,579 --> 01:07:59,579
in the talent report.

1326
01:07:59,579 --> 01:08:01,579
And then for your official copy,

1327
01:08:01,579 --> 01:08:04,179
just the three of us,

1328
01:08:04,179 --> 01:08:06,179
that's all you need to sign.

1329
01:08:06,179 --> 01:08:08,179
Is this going to be seen by everybody?

1330
01:08:08,179 --> 01:08:10,179
Not that.

1331
01:08:10,179 --> 01:08:12,179
So I can make a sloppy signature?

1332
01:08:12,179 --> 01:08:14,179
No.

1333
01:08:14,179 --> 01:08:16,600
Oh, I can read it, John.

1334
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,600
Yeah, I'm trying to make it

1335
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,600
so you can't read it.

1336
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,600
I don't want people to be like,

1337
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,600
who's this guy?

1338
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,600
Now, how on Doug do we put this

1339
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,369
on select board report?

1340
01:08:29,369 --> 01:08:31,369
Deceased or?

1341
01:08:31,369 --> 01:08:33,369
I wouldn't say.

1342
01:08:33,369 --> 01:08:35,369
Just leave it.

1343
01:08:35,369 --> 01:08:37,369
I thought maybe someone would

1344
01:08:37,369 --> 01:08:39,369
come tonight and say

1345
01:08:39,369 --> 01:08:41,369
I want to be a selectman

1346
01:08:41,369 --> 01:08:43,369
for the other two meetings,

1347
01:08:43,369 --> 01:08:45,369
but how do you feel?

1348
01:08:45,369 --> 01:08:47,369
I think so too.

1349
01:08:47,369 --> 01:08:49,619
Currently it's all yours.

1350
01:08:49,619 --> 01:08:51,619
That's Lori's.

1351
01:08:51,619 --> 01:08:53,619
Okay, now.

1352
01:08:53,619 --> 01:08:55,619
Has anybody pulled papers for the report?

1353
01:08:55,619 --> 01:08:57,619
So first Ray on post

1354
01:08:57,619 --> 01:08:59,619
and then Jed Dramblin

1355
01:08:59,619 --> 01:09:01,619
took out papers for Doug.

1356
01:09:01,619 --> 01:09:03,619
This is going in.

1357
01:09:03,619 --> 01:09:05,619
And this is going in.

1358
01:09:05,619 --> 01:09:08,359
Nobody's running against anybody.

1359
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:10,359
No big topic.

1360
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,359
So go to the select board's report.

1361
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:16,470
The one Lori gave us tonight.

1362
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:18,470
I'm taking all kinds of notes.

1363
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:20,470
Not live but on the record.

1364
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:22,630
For you to look at.

1365
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:24,630
What do you want us to say?

1366
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:27,050
Thanks.

1367
01:09:27,050 --> 01:09:29,369
Highway crew.

1368
01:09:29,369 --> 01:09:31,369
Okay, then we've got to say something.

1369
01:09:31,369 --> 01:09:33,369
They all do.

1370
01:09:33,369 --> 01:09:35,369
Are we

1371
01:09:35,369 --> 01:09:37,369
going to say something about the new truck?

1372
01:09:37,369 --> 01:09:39,619
In the

1373
01:09:39,619 --> 01:09:41,619
vote for article.

1374
01:09:41,619 --> 01:09:45,380
I would just say that

1375
01:09:45,380 --> 01:09:50,810
reliable

1376
01:09:50,810 --> 01:09:52,810
consistent service

1377
01:09:52,810 --> 01:09:58,810
to the town.

1378
01:09:58,810 --> 01:10:00,810
We don't do it.

1379
01:10:00,810 --> 01:10:04,789
We end up in that same boat

1380
01:10:04,789 --> 01:10:06,789
where we were

1381
01:10:06,789 --> 01:10:09,369
17 years ago

1382
01:10:09,369 --> 01:10:11,369
where everything is no good.

1383
01:10:11,369 --> 01:10:13,369
You've got to buy it all at once.

1384
01:10:13,369 --> 01:10:15,369
The trucks aren't

1385
01:10:15,369 --> 01:10:17,369
lasting like they used to.

1386
01:10:17,369 --> 01:10:19,369
Vehicles are not lasting like they used to.

1387
01:10:19,369 --> 01:10:21,369
I drilled a hole through my

1388
01:10:21,369 --> 01:10:23,369
floor to run a wire for my sander

1389
01:10:23,369 --> 01:10:25,369
and I was very upset

1390
01:10:25,369 --> 01:10:27,369
with how thin the metal was.

1391
01:10:27,369 --> 01:10:29,369
Okay.

1392
01:10:29,369 --> 01:10:31,369
Then anticipated project

1393
01:10:31,369 --> 01:10:33,369
Paving Jepson Road

1394
01:10:33,369 --> 01:10:35,369
and the hill on LeSure

1395
01:10:35,369 --> 01:10:37,369
as well as chip sealing.

1396
01:10:37,369 --> 01:10:39,369
We ask for your support.

1397
01:10:39,369 --> 01:10:41,369
I feel like some of this stuff

1398
01:10:41,369 --> 01:10:43,369
if you're too afraid to ask the town

1399
01:10:43,369 --> 01:10:45,369
you're not really doing a good job.

1400
01:10:45,369 --> 01:10:47,369
Let's see where they land.

1401
01:10:47,369 --> 01:10:49,369
We have a paragraph

1402
01:10:49,369 --> 01:10:51,369
of Paving Jepson and LeSure

1403
01:10:51,369 --> 01:10:53,369
separate from the chip sealing

1404
01:10:53,369 --> 01:10:55,369
because the chip sealing

1405
01:10:55,369 --> 01:10:57,369
we want to say is just part of our regular

1406
01:10:57,369 --> 01:10:59,369
Yes.

1407
01:10:59,369 --> 01:11:01,369
Let them understand that that's a regular maintenance.

1408
01:11:01,369 --> 01:11:03,369
The chip sealing regular

1409
01:11:03,369 --> 01:11:05,369
five year according to our

1410
01:11:05,369 --> 01:11:07,369
maintenance plan.

1411
01:11:07,369 --> 01:11:09,369
It's our job just to put it out there

1412
01:11:09,369 --> 01:11:11,369
if they don't want it.

1413
01:11:11,369 --> 01:11:13,369
Resurfacing plan.

1414
01:11:13,369 --> 01:11:16,170
It's a normal schedule.

1415
01:11:16,170 --> 01:11:19,859
Okay.

1416
01:11:19,859 --> 01:11:21,859
And it's working.

1417
01:11:21,859 --> 01:11:24,569
You can see you're down

1418
01:11:24,569 --> 01:11:26,569
to three roads.

1419
01:11:26,569 --> 01:11:28,569
It's working. Our roads are pretty good

1420
01:11:28,569 --> 01:11:30,569
if you drive our stuff

1421
01:11:30,569 --> 01:11:32,569
and drive other towns.

1422
01:11:32,569 --> 01:11:34,569
Other people are starting to do this.

1423
01:11:34,569 --> 01:11:36,569
Clarksburg's starting to get on board

1424
01:11:36,569 --> 01:11:38,569
with it. Florida.

1425
01:11:38,569 --> 01:11:40,569
So we'll have to

1426
01:11:40,569 --> 01:11:42,569
kind of reword that other paragraph

1427
01:11:42,569 --> 01:11:44,569
there.

1428
01:11:44,569 --> 01:11:46,569
We're setting the bar right now.

1429
01:11:46,569 --> 01:11:48,729
We did it with the sand too.

1430
01:11:48,729 --> 01:11:50,729
Now if you look around

1431
01:11:50,729 --> 01:11:52,729
everybody's sand sheds.

1432
01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:54,729
And then the

1433
01:11:56,729 --> 01:11:58,729
then to the

1434
01:11:58,729 --> 01:12:00,729
Jepson Road

1435
01:12:00,729 --> 01:12:02,729
we can say something about

1436
01:12:02,729 --> 01:12:04,729
qualifying for grants.

1437
01:12:04,729 --> 01:12:06,729
After it's paved.

1438
01:12:06,729 --> 01:12:09,210
And as you can see

1439
01:12:09,210 --> 01:12:11,210
East Road did not cost us

1440
01:12:11,210 --> 01:12:13,720
anything last year.

1441
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,680
And that's huge.

1442
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,680
We've never been able to do that.

1443
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,680
How much did it cost for East Road last year?

1444
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,680
$200? Right on your cheat sheet.

1445
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,680
More than $235, right?

1446
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,680
More than the whole

1447
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,680
$235.

1448
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,680
That would have been our money for five years.

1449
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,970
Just to do that one road.

1450
01:12:32,970 --> 01:12:34,970
Okay.

1451
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:36,970
$235.

1452
01:12:36,970 --> 01:12:39,609
And then

1453
01:12:39,609 --> 01:12:44,170
As long as the paver's here

1454
01:12:44,170 --> 01:12:46,170
we might as well do it with

1455
01:12:46,170 --> 01:12:48,170
Shore Road. But we can't say that

1456
01:12:48,170 --> 01:12:50,420
in the town report.

1457
01:12:50,420 --> 01:12:54,149
For me it's a

1458
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:56,149
Shore Road might be the hard sell.

1459
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:58,279
It's not engineered

1460
01:12:58,279 --> 01:13:04,180
to be

1461
01:13:04,180 --> 01:13:06,180
Well you know there's always washboard.

1462
01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:13,689
to have constant maintenance of that road.

1463
01:13:13,689 --> 01:13:15,689
And this could be the first step in

1464
01:13:15,689 --> 01:13:17,689
paving the rest of the Shore Road.

1465
01:13:17,689 --> 01:13:19,689
At some point you're gonna

1466
01:13:19,689 --> 01:13:21,689
if you have gravel roads

1467
01:13:21,689 --> 01:13:23,689
this is a good thing you may have to bring up.

1468
01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:25,720
The grader

1469
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,720
like if you're gonna

1470
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,720
continually have roads in town

1471
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,720
at some point we'll be replacing

1472
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,720
a grader.

1473
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,720
So blacktop

1474
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,720
you know you can eliminate the grader.

1475
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,720
But you gotta have long vision

1476
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,720
to care about this stuff.

1477
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,720
How about hiring a grader

1478
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,720
if they'd say well could we hire a grader

1479
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,720
for what's gotta be done? What are you hiring

1480
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,720
a grader for and an operator for

1481
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,010
three or four days?

1482
01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:54,010
We're gonna make it possible.

1483
01:13:54,010 --> 01:13:56,010
But he's gotta be on his way out to

1484
01:13:56,010 --> 01:13:58,010
where are we gonna source it?

1485
01:13:58,010 --> 01:14:00,010
Yeah.

1486
01:14:00,010 --> 01:14:02,010
Gotta think about that.

1487
01:14:02,010 --> 01:14:04,010
Once there's a pit in town

1488
01:14:04,010 --> 01:14:06,010
Not only that

1489
01:14:06,010 --> 01:14:08,010
the skill level of the worker that the town

1490
01:14:08,010 --> 01:14:10,010
will have to have will be a lot different.

1491
01:14:10,010 --> 01:14:12,010
All that stuff is

1492
01:14:12,010 --> 01:14:14,010
if you do that all

1493
01:14:14,010 --> 01:14:16,010
paved roads and they're really not doing

1494
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:18,010
much but mowing grass and

1495
01:14:18,010 --> 01:14:22,020
filling some potholes

1496
01:14:22,020 --> 01:14:24,020
Eliminate Lister

1497
01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:26,020
and the rest is

1498
01:14:26,020 --> 01:14:28,020
I think we go pretty good?

1499
01:14:28,020 --> 01:14:30,250
Okay.

1500
01:14:30,250 --> 01:14:32,569
Um

1501
01:14:32,569 --> 01:14:34,630
I'll work on the tax stuff

1502
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:36,789
for the town report.

1503
01:14:36,789 --> 01:14:38,789
Send it.

1504
01:14:38,789 --> 01:14:40,789
I'll work on the

1505
01:14:40,789 --> 01:14:42,789
stock board report instead of

1506
01:14:42,789 --> 01:14:44,789
Now here's the other thing

1507
01:14:44,789 --> 01:14:47,140
in the town report

1508
01:14:47,140 --> 01:14:49,140
we said we're gonna dedicate it

1509
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:51,140
to Dottie and Betty

1510
01:14:51,140 --> 01:14:53,140
and in the meantime Doug passed away.

1511
01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:55,140
Do we want to just do it to Doug

1512
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:57,140
this year or

1513
01:14:57,140 --> 01:14:59,140
say something in the select board report

1514
01:14:59,140 --> 01:15:01,210
about Doug?

1515
01:15:01,210 --> 01:15:03,210
Either one or the other

1516
01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:05,210
I think we've gotta do.

1517
01:15:05,210 --> 01:15:07,659
Well I mean Doug would make sense

1518
01:15:07,659 --> 01:15:09,659
and it's hard

1519
01:15:09,659 --> 01:15:12,199
I mean it's hard to

1520
01:15:12,199 --> 01:15:14,199
there's so many people that a dedication

1521
01:15:14,199 --> 01:15:16,899
would be you know it's just hard to do it for everybody.

1522
01:15:16,899 --> 01:15:19,449
I'm thinking that.

1523
01:15:19,449 --> 01:15:21,449
That's kind of what I was saying Dottie's still alive.

1524
01:15:21,449 --> 01:15:23,449
I know it kind of looks funny with Dottie and Betty

1525
01:15:23,449 --> 01:15:25,449
When did Betty

1526
01:15:25,449 --> 01:15:27,449
When did she pass away Betty? I was

1527
01:15:27,449 --> 01:15:29,449
thinking she passed away this year

1528
01:15:29,449 --> 01:15:31,449
Could we just add Doug to

1529
01:15:31,449 --> 01:15:33,449
or do we have to be two people?

1530
01:15:33,449 --> 01:15:35,449
Could we add Doug to the other two?

1531
01:15:35,449 --> 01:15:37,449
We could do them inside or there

1532
01:15:37,449 --> 01:15:39,449
have three pictures on there

1533
01:15:39,449 --> 01:15:41,449
Well here's another thought though

1534
01:15:41,449 --> 01:15:43,449
when Jean was wanting to kind of emphasize

1535
01:15:43,449 --> 01:15:45,449
the matriarchs of Stanford

1536
01:15:45,449 --> 01:15:47,449
you have Rosemary Curran

1537
01:15:47,449 --> 01:15:49,449
Yeah I mean it's hard that's what I'm saying

1538
01:15:49,449 --> 01:15:51,449
where do you draw the line on

1539
01:15:51,449 --> 01:15:54,439
who does this and who doesn't

1540
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,439
you know it's hard

1541
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,439
Sounds like if you wait another year

1542
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,050
or two and then

1543
01:16:01,050 --> 01:16:03,050
I look back in reports there really hasn't been

1544
01:16:03,050 --> 01:16:05,050
a lot of dedications just in the last twenty

1545
01:16:05,050 --> 01:16:07,050
years there was one for Leo who makes

1546
01:16:07,050 --> 01:16:09,050
totals

1547
01:16:09,050 --> 01:16:11,050
There was one that was a

1548
01:16:11,050 --> 01:16:13,050
dual one one year I know

1549
01:16:13,050 --> 01:16:15,050
Patricia Carlson was one of them

1550
01:16:15,050 --> 01:16:17,050
and there was someone I think

1551
01:16:17,050 --> 01:16:19,050
Tom Hodling

1552
01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:21,050
He was a selectman

1553
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:23,050
Since I've been collecting reports when I moved here

1554
01:16:23,050 --> 01:16:25,050
in 2004 that was it

1555
01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:27,050
Those were all the dedications

1556
01:16:27,050 --> 01:16:29,050
I think we kind of stopped then because of the same

1557
01:16:29,050 --> 01:16:31,050
thing that who gets it

1558
01:16:31,050 --> 01:16:33,050
and who doesn't

1559
01:16:33,050 --> 01:16:35,050
It's kind of like the flag half-mast now

1560
01:16:35,050 --> 01:16:37,050
it used to be for the governor and senators

1561
01:16:37,050 --> 01:16:39,050
now it's for

1562
01:16:39,050 --> 01:16:41,050
not that all these people aren't worthy but

1563
01:16:41,050 --> 01:16:43,050
where do you draw the line it's all the way down to

1564
01:16:43,050 --> 01:16:45,050
canine dogs now

1565
01:16:45,050 --> 01:16:47,050
Oh it is?

1566
01:16:47,050 --> 01:16:49,050
In Massachusetts it is for sure

1567
01:16:49,050 --> 01:16:51,050
It seems like Doug Pasoil all serving the town

1568
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:53,050
Yeah I think so too

1569
01:16:53,050 --> 01:16:55,050
And that's where it makes sense I think

1570
01:16:55,050 --> 01:16:57,140
As great as it

1571
01:16:57,140 --> 01:16:59,140
I mean everyone recognizes

1572
01:16:59,140 --> 01:17:01,140
Dottie as great as it would have been

1573
01:17:01,140 --> 01:17:03,140
but what makes Dottie more worthy than

1574
01:17:03,140 --> 01:17:05,140
anyone else that lived here

1575
01:17:05,140 --> 01:17:07,140
for 50 or 60 years

1576
01:17:07,140 --> 01:17:09,140
What sets her out

1577
01:17:09,140 --> 01:17:11,140
other than she was very visible walking on the side of the road

1578
01:17:11,140 --> 01:17:13,140
Yeah

1579
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:15,140
Nice person

1580
01:17:15,140 --> 01:17:17,140
I mean we love her

1581
01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:19,140
I definitely like the idea

1582
01:17:19,140 --> 01:17:21,140
of what Jean was saying with the old school mentality

1583
01:17:21,140 --> 01:17:23,140
more sense of community

1584
01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:25,140
when those people were

1585
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:27,140
thriving in town

1586
01:17:27,140 --> 01:17:29,689
But I don't know

1587
01:17:29,689 --> 01:17:31,689
it opens the door for like

1588
01:17:31,689 --> 01:17:33,689
who shouldn't get one right

1589
01:17:33,689 --> 01:17:35,689
like you just said Rosemary Kern

1590
01:17:35,689 --> 01:17:37,689
I mean they lived here since 1960 or 61

1591
01:17:37,689 --> 01:17:39,689
probably longer than Dottie Howe

1592
01:17:39,689 --> 01:17:41,689
and Betty Bendis

1593
01:17:41,689 --> 01:17:43,689
I mean they didn't move here until the 1970s

1594
01:17:43,689 --> 01:17:45,689
Well Jim grew up here didn't he

1595
01:17:45,689 --> 01:17:47,689
Jim did yeah

1596
01:17:47,689 --> 01:17:49,689
My grandma passed away a few years ago

1597
01:17:49,689 --> 01:17:51,689
she lived here 80 something years

1598
01:17:51,689 --> 01:17:53,689
I would say

1599
01:17:53,689 --> 01:17:55,689
as worthy as that was maybe

1600
01:17:55,689 --> 01:17:57,689
on second thought

1601
01:17:57,689 --> 01:17:59,850
Yes Major

1602
01:17:59,850 --> 01:18:01,850
I thought maybe we retreat from Betty and Dottie

1603
01:18:01,850 --> 01:18:03,850
and go with Doug

1604
01:18:03,850 --> 01:18:05,850
because he did

1605
01:18:05,850 --> 01:18:07,850
he died while he was serving the town

1606
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:09,850
literally was in service

1607
01:18:09,850 --> 01:18:11,850
I agree with you

1608
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:13,850
Probably would have been re-elected if he decided to run again

1609
01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:15,979
I don't know if we made a motion

1610
01:18:15,979 --> 01:18:17,979
for Dottie and Betty but

1611
01:18:17,979 --> 01:18:20,039
if we did I'd like to

1612
01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:22,039
rescind that motion

1613
01:18:22,039 --> 01:18:24,039
I think I did

1614
01:18:24,039 --> 01:18:26,039
It makes sense just because it's hard to

1615
01:18:26,039 --> 01:18:28,039
draw that line

1616
01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:30,039
and I would say if we just stick to someone that served the town

1617
01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:32,039
in one capacity or another

1618
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:34,039
like John Tatra was another one I forgot

1619
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:36,039
that was the other one

1620
01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:38,039
I mean he served the town for a long time

1621
01:18:38,039 --> 01:18:40,039
That makes sense

1622
01:18:40,039 --> 01:18:42,039
I did the same thing Kerr

1623
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:44,039
I went back in a lot of the town reports

1624
01:18:44,039 --> 01:18:46,039
We did Betty Call

1625
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:48,039
Well for one I was just trying to get an idea of

1626
01:18:48,039 --> 01:18:50,039
So Betty Call would be in my parents stash of books

1627
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:52,039
I literally got these books all the way back to 1960

1628
01:18:52,039 --> 01:18:54,039
somewhere in my house

1629
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:56,039
I got them

1630
01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:58,039
But I only kept the stash out that's accessible

1631
01:18:58,039 --> 01:19:00,039
since I moved into the house

1632
01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:02,039
I think it was about 20 years

1633
01:19:02,039 --> 01:19:04,039
Johnny was the other one

1634
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:06,039
But I mean he made sense he served

1635
01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:08,039
Tom Hodling I know that

1636
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:10,039
And then we kind of stopped because

1637
01:19:10,039 --> 01:19:12,039
You know that one even

1638
01:19:12,039 --> 01:19:14,039
everyone's worthy for these things

1639
01:19:14,039 --> 01:19:16,039
I guess Tom was serving and Patricia was the librarian

1640
01:19:16,039 --> 01:19:18,680
I guess at the time

1641
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,680
So it kind of made sense

1642
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,699
But if we just start doing it that way

1643
01:19:24,699 --> 01:19:26,699
So is that the wording I want to rescind the vote

1644
01:19:26,699 --> 01:19:28,699
for Betty and Dottie

1645
01:19:28,699 --> 01:19:30,699
very worthy people

1646
01:19:30,699 --> 01:19:32,699
I don't think I actually put too much

1647
01:19:32,699 --> 01:19:34,699
in the minutes

1648
01:19:34,699 --> 01:19:36,699
because I didn't want to let the cat out

1649
01:19:36,699 --> 01:19:38,699
That's true

1650
01:19:38,699 --> 01:19:40,699
Maybe we didn't do anything in the minutes

1651
01:19:40,699 --> 01:19:42,699
Maybe we just discussed the dedication

1652
01:19:42,699 --> 01:19:44,699
That's true

1653
01:19:44,699 --> 01:19:46,890
So we'll just dedicate it to Doug

1654
01:19:46,890 --> 01:19:48,890
and we didn't do a motion

1655
01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:51,460
Yeah that makes sense

1656
01:19:51,460 --> 01:19:53,460
If we didn't do a motion

1657
01:19:53,460 --> 01:19:55,460
you would have had it

1658
01:19:55,460 --> 01:19:57,460
I didn't go as far as contacting the families

1659
01:19:57,460 --> 01:20:00,010
I've been very late

1660
01:20:00,010 --> 01:20:06,970
And I'm sure they would understand

1661
01:20:06,970 --> 01:20:08,970
Yeah

1662
01:20:08,970 --> 01:20:11,060
About Doug

1663
01:20:11,060 --> 01:20:22,090
Okay

1664
01:20:22,090 --> 01:20:24,090
Your father did basketball, baseball

1665
01:20:24,090 --> 01:20:26,090
Stanford, Clarksburg Tigers

1666
01:20:26,090 --> 01:20:28,090
I remember when they

1667
01:20:28,090 --> 01:20:30,090
They moved here in 1960

1668
01:20:30,090 --> 01:20:32,090
I remember playing basketball with them

1669
01:20:32,090 --> 01:20:34,090
44 years here in town

1670
01:20:34,090 --> 01:20:36,090
Would you go up Alpemwall after and go swimming

1671
01:20:36,090 --> 01:20:38,090
Sure

1672
01:20:38,090 --> 01:20:40,409
Yeah

1673
01:20:40,409 --> 01:20:42,979
That was hard in the gym

1674
01:20:42,979 --> 01:20:44,979
watching them play basketball

1675
01:20:44,979 --> 01:20:46,979
Because they were rough

1676
01:20:46,979 --> 01:20:52,149
I remember why I didn't go up

1677
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:56,329
Why did your father and

1678
01:20:56,329 --> 01:20:58,329
mother move up here?

1679
01:20:58,329 --> 01:21:00,329
Was there some reason?

1680
01:21:00,329 --> 01:21:02,329
My father wanted to be rural

1681
01:21:02,329 --> 01:21:04,420
they paid about $6,000 for the house

1682
01:21:04,420 --> 01:21:06,420
Where did they live before?

1683
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:08,420
My mother grew up in one of

1684
01:21:08,420 --> 01:21:10,420
the oldest houses in North Adams

1685
01:21:10,420 --> 01:21:12,420
on South Church Street

1686
01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:14,420
It's attached to the Lousik Tunnel

1687
01:21:14,420 --> 01:21:16,420
Her history goes all the way back to the tunnel

1688
01:21:16,420 --> 01:21:18,420
My Irish immigrants

1689
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:20,460
and my father's family moved here from Italy

1690
01:21:20,460 --> 01:21:22,460
to Frederick

1691
01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:24,699
than Frederick Street, North Adams.

1692
01:21:24,699 --> 01:21:25,760
Just off of Hogan Street.

1693
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,359
And yeah, my father always ran his hunting dogs

1694
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:31,340
up this way, you know, always came up this way

1695
01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:32,180
to go hunting.

1696
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:37,090
He, from hunting, he had known Sophie Jangrel

1697
01:21:37,090 --> 01:21:40,600
who lived here.

1698
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,300
Then just came this way, he wanted to get out

1699
01:21:43,300 --> 01:21:46,739
of North Adams, the big city life of North Adams, so.

1700
01:21:46,739 --> 01:21:49,939
And then he had you kids and you all ran wild in town.

1701
01:21:49,939 --> 01:21:52,699
And it was a good, good safe place.

1702
01:21:52,699 --> 01:21:53,539
Okay.

1703
01:21:53,539 --> 01:21:54,899
It was.

1704
01:21:54,899 --> 01:21:59,899
Can I have a motion that we accept the budget?

1705
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:03,149
As, is that what I want?

1706
01:22:03,149 --> 01:22:08,789
The budget as proposed and the town report as?

1707
01:22:09,090 --> 01:22:09,930
Revised.

1708
01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:13,060
Revised.

1709
01:22:13,060 --> 01:22:15,380
Motion to sign and we're done.

1710
01:22:15,380 --> 01:22:16,300
Motion to sign.

1711
01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:18,000
Okay, and I want to make a motion

1712
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,430
to go into executive session for personnel.

1713
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:22,659
Second.

1714
01:22:22,659 --> 01:22:23,500
All in favor?