1 00:00:00,050 --> 00:00:09,080 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,080 and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,079 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,019 Welcome to the meeting of the Stanford Select Board. 5 00:00:23,019 --> 00:00:26,019 If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda, 6 00:00:26,019 --> 00:00:30,019 you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address. 7 00:00:30,019 --> 00:00:33,020 You will notice that all our meetings are recorded, 8 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:36,020 and this is to aid with a summarization of the minutes. 9 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:39,020 Visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor 10 00:00:39,020 --> 00:00:41,020 and 15 minutes per topic. 11 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:45,020 Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner 12 00:00:45,020 --> 00:00:47,020 and respectful of others. 13 00:00:47,020 --> 00:00:49,020 Select board members present are... 14 00:00:49,020 --> 00:00:50,020 Mike Dinnall. 15 00:00:50,020 --> 00:00:51,020 Nancy Bresheka. 16 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:52,020 Doug Wright. 17 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:53,020 Kurt Lamar. 18 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:58,500 Will there be any adding of items or removing items from tonight's agenda? 19 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:03,500 So additional correspondence has come in since the agenda was done. 20 00:01:03,500 --> 00:01:09,280 Will there be any adjustments to the agenda, 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,280 such as changes to the agenda? 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Any changes in the order of items? 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,700 I think we're good. 24 00:01:13,700 --> 00:01:15,879 Okay. 25 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:16,879 Hearing of visitors. 26 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:18,650 Yes. 27 00:01:18,650 --> 00:01:23,709 Peter Greenbush, representing Planning Commission. 28 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:27,150 I just wanted to touch base. 29 00:01:27,150 --> 00:01:31,150 If you received my email regarding Dave Poppin's resignation, 30 00:01:31,150 --> 00:01:39,150 and also I know that Deb had put in a letter of interest 31 00:01:39,150 --> 00:01:43,150 for the second ultimate position. 32 00:01:43,150 --> 00:01:50,150 With the assumption, like I said, that Dave will probably want to stay. 33 00:01:50,150 --> 00:01:53,219 I mean, of course, Dave is welcome. 34 00:01:53,219 --> 00:01:56,219 You know, everybody would love to have Dave back, you know, 35 00:01:56,219 --> 00:01:59,219 to receive or to fill the end spot. 36 00:01:59,219 --> 00:02:04,219 But I can just assume that he'll probably want to stay an alternate. 37 00:02:04,219 --> 00:02:10,219 And I just wanted to put in, again, my blessings from me 38 00:02:10,219 --> 00:02:12,219 and from everybody that I spoke to. 39 00:02:12,219 --> 00:02:18,280 About Deb assuming that position. 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Yeah. 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,280 I talked to Dave tonight. 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Okay. 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,280 He said he would stay alternate. 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Now, the alternate only serves when the Planning Commission is having a hearing, 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,280 but some, when they come to land and you have to, 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,280 the Planning Commission has to redo the plan. 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:39,280 So Dave is happy to be there, serve, if any of those hearings ever come up. 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 So, yeah. 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,280 If we need him. 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,280 If you need him. 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Mm-hmm. 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,280 If you need him. 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,280 So we do have a vacant position that Dan resigned from the Planning Commission. 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:57,569 So, Deb Bouchard wants to come in. 55 00:02:57,569 --> 00:03:02,460 Well, she initially put in prior to Dan's resignation. 56 00:03:02,460 --> 00:03:05,219 For a second. 57 00:03:05,219 --> 00:03:06,219 For a second. 58 00:03:06,219 --> 00:03:07,219 To be an alternate. 59 00:03:07,219 --> 00:03:08,219 Okay. 60 00:03:08,219 --> 00:03:13,219 And then after that, I received some correspondence from Dan that I sent to you. 61 00:03:13,219 --> 00:03:14,219 Okay. 62 00:03:14,219 --> 00:03:15,219 That I sent to you guys. 63 00:03:15,219 --> 00:03:16,219 Okay. 64 00:03:16,219 --> 00:03:19,219 Letting them know that, or letting everybody know that he was resigning for 30-something 65 00:03:19,219 --> 00:03:20,219 years. 66 00:03:20,219 --> 00:03:21,219 Thank you so much. 67 00:03:21,219 --> 00:03:22,219 Mm-hmm. 68 00:03:22,219 --> 00:03:23,219 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would go to Dave first. 69 00:03:23,219 --> 00:03:24,219 And if Dave wanted to jump back on. 70 00:03:24,219 --> 00:03:25,259 Okay. 71 00:03:25,259 --> 00:03:26,259 Dave can jump. 72 00:03:26,259 --> 00:03:27,259 Sure. 73 00:03:27,259 --> 00:03:28,259 If he didn't want to, like I assumed he would probably not want to jump back on. 74 00:03:28,259 --> 00:03:29,259 He would want to stay in the alternate because the winter's coming and all that stuff. 75 00:03:29,259 --> 00:03:30,259 That Deb could fit in. 76 00:03:30,259 --> 00:03:31,259 Okay. 77 00:03:31,259 --> 00:03:32,259 And then I sent to you guys, letting everybody know that he was resigning for 30-something 78 00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:33,259 years. 79 00:03:33,259 --> 00:03:34,259 Thank you so much. 80 00:03:34,259 --> 00:03:35,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would go to Dave first. 81 00:03:35,259 --> 00:03:36,259 And if Dave wanted to jump back on. 82 00:03:36,259 --> 00:03:37,259 Okay. 83 00:03:43,259 --> 00:03:44,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 84 00:03:44,259 --> 00:03:45,259 Okay. 85 00:03:45,259 --> 00:03:46,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 86 00:03:46,259 --> 00:03:47,259 Okay. 87 00:03:47,259 --> 00:03:48,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 88 00:03:48,259 --> 00:03:49,259 Okay. 89 00:03:49,259 --> 00:03:50,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 90 00:03:50,259 --> 00:03:51,259 Okay. 91 00:03:51,259 --> 00:03:52,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 92 00:03:52,259 --> 00:03:53,259 Okay. 93 00:03:53,259 --> 00:03:54,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 94 00:03:54,259 --> 00:03:55,259 Okay. 95 00:03:55,259 --> 00:03:56,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 96 00:03:56,259 --> 00:03:57,259 Okay. 97 00:03:57,259 --> 00:03:58,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 98 00:03:58,259 --> 00:03:59,259 Okay. 99 00:03:59,259 --> 00:04:00,259 And then I just had stated that, of course, Dave would want to jump back on. 100 00:04:00,259 --> 00:04:04,439 This is to get it out there, not my personal opinion. 101 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:07,159 Is there a conflict of interest being the AO 102 00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:08,479 and being on the planning board? 103 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:10,379 I don't think so, not personally. 104 00:04:10,379 --> 00:04:14,259 I think it's actually a better thing for- 105 00:04:14,259 --> 00:04:15,500 Because I know that's going to come up, 106 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:16,339 so I just wanted to- 107 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:17,319 Yeah, which is fine. 108 00:04:17,319 --> 00:04:20,259 I haven't really talked to anybody regarding that 109 00:04:20,259 --> 00:04:24,660 other than the conversation we sat and talked about. 110 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:26,519 No, it's not my opinion. 111 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:29,860 I just think anytime there's two positions 112 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:32,519 held by one person, there's always that question. 113 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:35,420 I don't believe that there's anything 114 00:04:35,420 --> 00:04:37,220 that she could gain from. 115 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:40,579 Yeah, I don't think that there's anything monetary 116 00:04:40,579 --> 00:04:42,519 or anything that she could gain from. 117 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:45,339 I think with the knowledge and her role 118 00:04:45,339 --> 00:04:48,120 that she holds with the town as well, 119 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,860 could be an asset when we're writing, 120 00:04:51,860 --> 00:04:53,860 coming out with the ideas, the town plan, 121 00:04:53,860 --> 00:04:57,019 the laws, the bylaws and stuff like that. 122 00:04:57,019 --> 00:04:59,839 So I personally don't see a conflict of interest. 123 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,860 And to my knowledge, there isn't anything 124 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:04,339 that says those two positions can't hold. 125 00:05:04,339 --> 00:05:05,180 Sure. 126 00:05:05,180 --> 00:05:08,699 Her position as AO is up this coming year anyways, 127 00:05:08,699 --> 00:05:10,199 so she would have to recuse herself 128 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:14,500 on interviewing new candidates if that was the case. 129 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:16,519 Only that, but it wouldn't be a conflict 130 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:17,860 like financially or anything. 131 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:21,660 No, under the law, there's no law. 132 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:25,060 Probably if she said, I think you want to charge 133 00:05:25,060 --> 00:05:29,839 for a swimming pool and she would get the money for that, 134 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,660 then that's up to us, isn't it, to set those limits? 135 00:05:32,660 --> 00:05:34,160 You guys are... 136 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,860 We set them at home. 137 00:05:35,860 --> 00:05:38,540 If she recommends it, it might look like it, but... 138 00:05:38,540 --> 00:05:39,379 Yeah. 139 00:05:39,379 --> 00:05:41,220 Everything could be... 140 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:43,779 I just want to make sure before you pull the trigger on it 141 00:05:43,779 --> 00:05:46,399 and have someone say, well, it says right here, 142 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:47,800 you can't do two seats. 143 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,339 Yeah, I agree, it would be beneficial 144 00:05:49,339 --> 00:05:51,120 to have her involved. 145 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,259 When I was the AO, I went to every planning commission 146 00:05:55,259 --> 00:05:58,939 meeting and it was just like having another person there, 147 00:05:58,939 --> 00:05:59,779 another... 148 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Yeah. 149 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,519 It really worked out for me. 150 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:03,980 I think Ron, for years, was both on the planning board 151 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:04,819 and... 152 00:06:04,819 --> 00:06:05,660 Yes. 153 00:06:05,660 --> 00:06:06,500 Yeah. 154 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:07,319 Yeah. 155 00:06:07,319 --> 00:06:08,160 Covering our tracks. 156 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:08,980 Yep. 157 00:06:08,980 --> 00:06:10,500 And so, with that being said, I know you guys 158 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:11,680 got to do your thing with that. 159 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Also, I'm assuming Kerr handed you the new attendance policy 160 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,680 that we voted on. 161 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,839 Ultimately, we're just putting it in front of you 162 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,319 for your approval. 163 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:26,220 We just put something forth, voted on by our board, 164 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:28,110 and you guys ultimately have it. 165 00:06:28,110 --> 00:06:29,370 It's in correspondence. 166 00:06:29,370 --> 00:06:30,009 Yeah. 167 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:34,980 So, could I have a motion to accept 168 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:35,980 Dan Popfin's resignation? 169 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:36,980 Make a motion to accept Dan's resignation. 170 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:37,980 Second. 171 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:38,980 From the planning commission. 172 00:06:38,980 --> 00:06:39,980 For the big, beautiful letter. 173 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:40,980 Second. 174 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:41,980 Yeah. 175 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:42,980 All in favor? 176 00:06:42,980 --> 00:06:43,980 Aye. 177 00:06:43,980 --> 00:06:44,980 Aye. 178 00:06:44,980 --> 00:06:45,980 Aye. 179 00:06:45,980 --> 00:06:46,980 Could I have a motion to appoint Depp or Sharr 180 00:06:46,980 --> 00:06:47,980 to the planning commission to fill Dan's term, 181 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:48,980 which is up March of 2026? 182 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:49,980 Motion. 183 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:50,980 Second. 184 00:06:50,980 --> 00:06:51,980 All in favor? 185 00:06:51,980 --> 00:06:52,980 Aye. 186 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:53,980 Aye. 187 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:54,980 Second. 188 00:06:54,980 --> 00:06:55,980 All in favor? 189 00:06:55,980 --> 00:06:56,980 Aye. 190 00:06:56,980 --> 00:06:58,519 Aye. 191 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Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 193 00:07:00,759 --> 00:08:28,490 Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye 194 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:34,830 unexcused absence of any members from more than three consecutive or 25% of 195 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:41,169 total meetings over a period of one year term will be cost for consideration for 196 00:08:41,169 --> 00:08:45,129 removal from Planning Commission at the discretion of the chair and voted by 197 00:08:45,129 --> 00:08:49,809 majority of the board such affirmation vote for removal shall be advanced to 198 00:08:49,809 --> 00:08:53,490 the select board immediately requesting the appropriate measures to be taken 199 00:08:53,490 --> 00:08:59,490 members will be advised when two consecutive or total four absences have 200 00:08:59,490 --> 00:09:04,149 accumulated this measure shall not be applicable to alternates where their 201 00:09:04,149 --> 00:09:09,669 attendance is required only by absent or refusal of a regular member signature 202 00:09:09,669 --> 00:09:25,440 below indicates they receive this policy and understand so everybody's got it I 203 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,440 guess this is their policy do we have to accept it I mean it's the you all you do 204 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,799 is recommend that they get removed 205 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:35,860 anyways we appoint right and we can tell them that it's not really right 206 00:09:35,860 --> 00:09:40,659 you can't say you're off we have to go through the board but this is theirs but 207 00:09:40,659 --> 00:09:44,799 I we've talked about that way way back it was the people that weren't showing up 208 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:50,799 I thought yeah I thought it just needed to be accepted by you guys right over this here 209 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:59,419 yeah I I I think it's theirs now when this came up a long time ago I was all for it 210 00:09:59,419 --> 00:10:00,799 you know you're not going to do your job 211 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:04,100 why why you there you know especially if there's other people knocking at the 212 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:08,000 door to do the job there are some people who just want to hold positions because 213 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,039 they don't want to come out on the other hand if someone gets ill they got a 214 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:17,419 three-year term and they're out for six months last year I had vertigo I missed 215 00:10:17,419 --> 00:10:21,639 about three or four meetings you know but then once I was better I came right back 216 00:10:21,639 --> 00:10:26,039 wasn't really something I was doing anything medical we've talked about this 217 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:30,659 even on camera that of course if anything medical comes up you know immediate toughening of things 218 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:38,720 like cool so in each case will be looked at yeah yeah I mean it's this is just kind of touched up 219 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,659 just because we have a pretty busy years coming up yeah it's actually the last time we had a different 220 00:10:44,659 --> 00:10:50,539 attendance policy was the last time we were doing the bylaws yeah I mean if you guys want to if you 221 00:10:50,539 --> 00:10:56,960 gotta make a motion make a motion to accept it if that's what we have to do second I don't know if we 222 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,779 have to or not well it's their policy so it doesn't hurt to do it right we 223 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:16,350 saw all in favor yes all right thank you reading and approval of records and 224 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:27,580 orders November 6 2025 motion to approve second anybody second I wasn't here I think you were here 225 00:11:27,580 --> 00:11:37,419 I think it was just me how many did you miss in a row Kerr I just want to know just one I think one in a row 226 00:11:38,899 --> 00:11:48,019 you get paid so much Kerr my mom was actually in the hospital so we'll have to wait on those excuse 227 00:11:48,019 --> 00:11:59,970 yeah highway update Dave I talked to Dave tonight he couldn't make it the propane furnace at the 228 00:11:59,970 --> 00:12:08,629 garage is gone and he talked to H.A George and Dave's going to get a reprice on it I don't know 229 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:10,789 if they emailed you Lori they were going to do that 230 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:29,649 Dave did you talk to him about any alternative fuels or anything like that or no no I'm just curious 231 00:12:29,649 --> 00:12:41,879 such as electric split split units like we talked about you got both in air condition and and I don't 232 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:43,960 know if that's the right building for it but I'm just asking 233 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:50,159 no I know what you're talking about yeah pretty it's like a tin building right yeah I don't know if 234 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:55,740 it's practical with the uninsulated building yeah as big as it is right right yeah I mean I used gas 235 00:12:55,740 --> 00:13:00,240 at my shop and that's where I got a big monster building you're also I mean if they had an enclosed 236 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,460 space like probably if they insulated it drop still again yeah yeah like a little office space 237 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:10,559 or something I am looking into a split unit down the shop that because of air conditioning 238 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:12,480 um 239 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,340 that's right mine's brick so 240 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:17,679 not tinted, but it's still not insulated. 241 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,350 That's why we put the heat pump in our house 242 00:13:20,350 --> 00:13:21,230 three years ago. 243 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:22,149 Yeah. 244 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:23,870 Because when we built it, we had no idea 245 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:26,529 we could be able to have air conditioning. 246 00:13:26,529 --> 00:13:28,259 Right, right, yeah. 247 00:13:28,259 --> 00:13:29,100 They're getting better. 248 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:32,059 For a while, they struggled to blow up like 40 degrees 249 00:13:32,059 --> 00:13:33,519 about a billion footer, yeah. 250 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:36,759 Dave believes the propane furnace was there 251 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:39,120 when the garage was built, and that's- 252 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,379 Well, got it. 253 00:13:40,379 --> 00:13:41,700 What year was that? 254 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,860 Probably mid-70s, maybe? 255 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:47,620 Remember Sophie Jager on there with the canker? 256 00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:50,330 The bottle pusher. 257 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:51,529 80s at least. 258 00:13:51,529 --> 00:13:55,090 Yeah. 259 00:13:55,090 --> 00:13:57,110 Equipment's okay. 260 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:59,700 Talk about heat. 261 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:06,129 So we get everything moving on in here? 262 00:14:06,129 --> 00:14:20,169 Yes, ask him about work to build that into the wall 263 00:14:20,169 --> 00:14:38,029 in this room, replace this one. 264 00:14:38,029 --> 00:14:39,110 Anything else on highway? 265 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:41,750 Any other questions you had? 266 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:46,450 Recycling, Larry sent me an email today 267 00:14:46,450 --> 00:14:48,409 about an enforcement officer 268 00:14:48,409 --> 00:14:53,460 will be, he's under contract with the state of Vermont, 269 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:57,159 and he comes to review hauler and facility records 270 00:14:57,159 --> 00:15:01,279 for a payment of $6 a ton franchise fee 271 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:04,159 to ensure a fair and level playing field 272 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:07,080 among haulers and facilities. 273 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,220 I've never heard of this. 274 00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:09,299 Can you explain that to any of us? 275 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,480 Laurie never heard about it. 276 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,480 What it is, so I, what it is, 277 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,980 if the hauler only hauls in-state to transfer stations 278 00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:19,019 or Coventry landfills. 279 00:15:19,019 --> 00:15:21,320 The hauler doesn't pay the tax. 280 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,259 If a hauler hauls solid waste directly out of state 281 00:15:24,259 --> 00:15:27,460 for disposal, landfill or incineration, 282 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:30,559 they're responsible for paying the tax. 283 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:34,340 Each ton of waste is taxed only once. 284 00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:36,419 They pay the tax in the facility. 285 00:15:36,419 --> 00:15:38,019 Tax to what state? 286 00:15:38,019 --> 00:15:38,960 What's that? 287 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,120 Tax to what state? 288 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,279 The one they're leaving or the one they're bringing in? 289 00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:44,340 Out of state waste going through Vermont's 290 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:48,620 solid waste facility is still subject to a franchise tax. 291 00:15:48,620 --> 00:15:51,580 And if waste is delivered to an out-of-state landfill 292 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:54,679 to be used as alternative daily cover, 293 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,179 the hauler needs to record this to the state. 294 00:15:58,179 --> 00:16:03,220 So I had no idea what it was and I wrote to VCRC to ask them 295 00:16:03,220 --> 00:16:07,379 and they said, since the 80s, the state has charged a fee 296 00:16:07,379 --> 00:16:10,399 of $6 per ton on trash that is collected 297 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:12,820 from the transfer station owners. 298 00:16:12,820 --> 00:16:14,879 This is largely self-reported 299 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:18,399 and Casella should be handling this part of your contract. 300 00:16:18,620 --> 00:16:20,879 It may be worth double-checking. 301 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:23,860 The state hires a private contractor to travel 302 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:27,019 around the state and do occasional audits on waste 303 00:16:27,019 --> 00:16:29,639 and compare it to the self-reporting. 304 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:34,139 The last contractor retired after doing it for 30 plus years. 305 00:16:34,139 --> 00:16:37,080 This is the contact information for the new contractor. 306 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,139 You mean the 30-year-old guy never came here? 307 00:16:39,139 --> 00:16:39,740 Probably. 308 00:16:39,740 --> 00:16:41,460 The new guys, the new guys. 309 00:16:41,460 --> 00:16:41,960 Yes. 310 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,419 So Lori and Dave probably watch, I don't know what they want. 311 00:16:46,419 --> 00:16:48,580 So if there's a deceptive, 312 00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:51,379 a discrepancy, this guy comes in and goes, 313 00:16:51,379 --> 00:16:53,679 hey, that's not meeting what Casella's doing. 314 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:55,879 Who's responsible, us? 315 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:58,279 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. 316 00:16:58,279 --> 00:17:00,779 What about the last 30 years where we weren't inspected? 317 00:17:00,779 --> 00:17:02,210 Right. 318 00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:05,869 It would really be a discrepancy of what Casella is reporting. 319 00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:06,609 Right. 320 00:17:06,609 --> 00:17:07,549 So it's on them. 321 00:17:07,549 --> 00:17:09,750 I would think, but we're the owners. 322 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:16,660 And does this mean, how about our metal and steel? 323 00:17:16,660 --> 00:17:19,259 Is that considered, because Casella doesn't take that. 324 00:17:19,259 --> 00:17:24,400 I think this is, let's just file it away until somebody comes. 325 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,920 It's like extortion here. 326 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,500 Never heard of this. 327 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:29,859 Take me out. 328 00:17:29,859 --> 00:17:31,319 Never heard of this in 30 years. 329 00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:32,559 Let's just see how it goes. 330 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:34,059 We'll learn something from it, I guess. 331 00:17:34,059 --> 00:17:35,720 OK. 332 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,299 All right. 333 00:17:36,299 --> 00:17:37,759 Discussion. 334 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:39,660 Assessor clerk position. 335 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:42,819 Lori, did you get any more applications? 336 00:17:42,819 --> 00:17:45,160 I just have the two applications. 337 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,059 So last time we talked about this, I asked, 338 00:17:49,059 --> 00:17:52,259 to wait until we had a full board so we could, 339 00:17:52,259 --> 00:17:55,819 because one of the applicants is on the board. 340 00:17:55,819 --> 00:17:56,890 Oh. 341 00:17:56,890 --> 00:17:57,390 OK. 342 00:17:57,390 --> 00:17:57,890 All right. 343 00:17:57,890 --> 00:17:58,390 There you go. 344 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:58,890 So. 345 00:17:58,890 --> 00:18:00,109 Then I have to refuse myself. 346 00:18:00,109 --> 00:18:01,809 I thought it would be a good idea to wait 347 00:18:01,809 --> 00:18:03,150 until the whole board was here. 348 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:03,690 Yeah. 349 00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:05,690 And now we don't have a board again. 350 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:11,480 So I don't know if you guys want to, I mean, could we discuss? 351 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,480 Do you want to do this now? 352 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,339 Or do you want to wait until it's here? 353 00:18:15,339 --> 00:18:17,640 And the problem is, we keep waiting. 354 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,619 Did Sally give us that extra week? 355 00:18:19,619 --> 00:18:22,059 Sally's last day is tomorrow. 356 00:18:22,059 --> 00:18:22,720 Yeah. 357 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,059 So we've done this already. 358 00:18:24,059 --> 00:18:27,519 She was already the last day, and she gave us two weeks. 359 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:29,220 She gave you another two weeks, figuring you'd 360 00:18:29,220 --> 00:18:30,220 make a decision tonight. 361 00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:30,720 Yeah. 362 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,859 Is it public record as to who the two people are? 363 00:18:32,859 --> 00:18:33,359 Yeah. 364 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:33,859 Yeah. 365 00:18:33,859 --> 00:18:34,359 Yeah. 366 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,480 So it's Nancy and the Sullivan's? 367 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,019 Julie Ann Sullivan. 368 00:18:38,019 --> 00:18:39,119 Julie Ann Sullivan. 369 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:46,279 We didn't review any of the, any of hers, or mine either. 370 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:50,039 To me, I would have liked to have had, I actually 371 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:53,210 tried to reach out to Sally tonight. 372 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:59,509 I would like to know more about an important job. 373 00:18:59,509 --> 00:19:00,309 Yeah. 374 00:19:00,309 --> 00:19:03,150 So then I would like to interview people for a job, 375 00:19:03,150 --> 00:19:06,240 and not just make a motion to make a decision like you did. 376 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,079 Is there a job description existing? 377 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:08,779 Yes, there is. 378 00:19:08,779 --> 00:19:11,339 Attached to mine is the whole job description. 379 00:19:11,339 --> 00:19:11,839 There isn't. 380 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:13,640 It's not a job description. 381 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,880 Do you want to take a look, kind of, at how your salary is? 382 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,380 Yeah. 383 00:19:17,380 --> 00:19:21,599 But my concern is Bob. 384 00:19:21,599 --> 00:19:24,940 It all doesn't matter. 385 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:25,740 I don't know about Bob. 386 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:27,039 So, you know, it's. 387 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,539 It's one of those things where I want to be fair. 388 00:19:29,539 --> 00:19:30,039 Yeah. 389 00:19:30,039 --> 00:19:31,910 Yep. 390 00:19:31,910 --> 00:19:33,339 Can I ask a question? 391 00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:33,839 Yeah. 392 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:34,339 Yeah. 393 00:19:34,339 --> 00:19:39,839 It may, it may, I don't know, it's because of Mike. 394 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:46,619 When I first came here, we had a lister, not a lister's clerk. 395 00:19:46,619 --> 00:19:53,160 I remember you guys hired Deb Donovan, I think it was. 396 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,759 She was a lister. 397 00:19:54,759 --> 00:19:58,759 She was a lister, but she was doing the lister's clerk stuff, too, as well, right? 398 00:19:58,759 --> 00:19:59,859 Am I, am I wrong with that? 399 00:19:59,859 --> 00:20:02,500 Well, the listers were doing it all themselves, in-house, 400 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:05,259 because we did not have an outside assessor for. 401 00:20:05,259 --> 00:20:07,359 You kind of sort of answered my question. 402 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,559 So, the purpose of, if I remember the call of the meetings 403 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:17,220 and hiring a lister's clerk was because we didn't have lister's. 404 00:20:17,220 --> 00:20:18,220 We needed a lister's clerk. 405 00:20:18,220 --> 00:20:21,119 Well, we didn't, we had to hire an assessor. 406 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,119 Right. But we didn't have lister's. 407 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,920 But now, I thought we were having lister's now. 408 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,819 Well, we have one. 409 00:20:26,819 --> 00:20:29,690 We got to have one in front, I guess. 410 00:20:29,690 --> 00:20:29,990 So. 411 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:31,490 We have a lister. 412 00:20:31,490 --> 00:20:33,890 You need a corral to add. 413 00:20:33,890 --> 00:20:35,190 So, you need at least two listers. 414 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:38,490 So, if you have two listers to do the job as lister, then no one has ever come forward. 415 00:20:38,490 --> 00:20:45,769 So, until the listers could come up to speed, we need to keep the assessor. 416 00:20:45,769 --> 00:20:49,569 But the assessor doesn't do the day-to-day phone calls and appointments 417 00:20:49,569 --> 00:20:51,470 and things that have to be done. 418 00:20:51,470 --> 00:21:00,920 So, once that, those two or three people, the second or third lister is done, 419 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,019 then this position that we speak of right now would be eliminated. 420 00:21:04,019 --> 00:21:04,819 Could be. 421 00:21:04,819 --> 00:21:05,319 Could be. 422 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:06,019 Should be. 423 00:21:06,019 --> 00:21:06,720 Or could be. 424 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,220 Could be. 425 00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:07,720 Could be. 426 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,920 Sounds like it should be. 427 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,619 Well, that's what I'm trying to get at. 428 00:21:10,619 --> 00:21:19,420 Well, I'm just saying, before, before, before we had lister's, when we had lister's, we had no lister's clerk. 429 00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:19,819 Correct. 430 00:21:19,819 --> 00:21:24,619 When the lister's quit, we had to hire someone to do what we're doing now. 431 00:21:24,619 --> 00:21:31,119 And now, we've got lister's coming back, seems to me that we should be looking for a lister, 432 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,819 which is probably more important than a lister's clerk. 433 00:21:33,819 --> 00:21:35,220 We have been looking for a lister. 434 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:36,119 We have been looking. 435 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,619 But now, no one's stepped up. 436 00:21:37,619 --> 00:21:40,519 It would be nice if one of these two wants to be a lister. 437 00:21:40,519 --> 00:21:46,420 But now, they actually voted for one, because we can appoint them now that one's been elected, right? 438 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:48,319 Wouldn't it be more legal? 439 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:49,319 Could appoint. 440 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:52,019 Anyone who was interested could be appointed. 441 00:21:52,019 --> 00:21:53,609 That's correct. 442 00:21:53,609 --> 00:21:58,579 And they, there's probably trainings within that training time. 443 00:21:58,579 --> 00:22:01,079 But you trained the first one and let her train the second one. 444 00:22:01,079 --> 00:22:02,079 It may be a temporary. 445 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:03,680 It's all by us having lister's, right? 446 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,980 Debs hasn't been trained yet. 447 00:22:04,980 --> 00:22:05,680 No, I don't know. 448 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,779 I don't know the lister's yet. 449 00:22:06,779 --> 00:22:07,279 Okay. 450 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:14,079 So, so if Pete right now says he's going to be, he wants to be the lister, now does that take effect? 451 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:14,579 Motion. 452 00:22:14,579 --> 00:22:16,579 The motion is seconded and approved. 453 00:22:16,579 --> 00:22:25,579 But, but does it take effect tonight or is it after the certification and all of that in order to be a legal? 454 00:22:25,579 --> 00:22:35,180 I think the way I looked at it was the training was an on-job training that the state will pay, help pay for if it's elected. 455 00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:38,480 That's because I've gotten back and forth so many times on that. 456 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,880 But I don't see why it couldn't just start right away. 457 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,779 And then. 458 00:22:43,779 --> 00:22:44,380 Yeah. 459 00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:45,180 So I was trained. 460 00:22:45,180 --> 00:22:45,980 The training comes with it. 461 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:48,680 I don't, I don't have to do what you have to do. 462 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,480 But we don't have the second lister. 463 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,880 Yeah, there's no one doing, no one's coming for the job. 464 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,180 So what you're saying makes sense once we get a lister. 465 00:22:55,180 --> 00:22:55,680 We have. 466 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,400 We could probably fill that job this week. 467 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,099 Well, we've been, we've been advertising for four months. 468 00:23:02,099 --> 00:23:02,599 Where? 469 00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:03,200 I've never seen it. 470 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,900 It's been, not, not four months. 471 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:05,400 A year. 472 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Because it was an elected position. 473 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,500 Well, I know it was an elected position. 474 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:10,200 I know that you've been advertising for it. 475 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:10,700 Yeah. 476 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:13,500 But I've never seen an advertisement. 477 00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:20,099 We've had, we've had door advertising, all the public places, our website, and every meeting we mentioned. 478 00:23:20,099 --> 00:23:23,089 End of the minute, usually. 479 00:23:23,089 --> 00:23:24,089 Well, pay attention. 480 00:23:24,089 --> 00:23:25,390 Is that what you're wanting to hear? 481 00:23:25,390 --> 00:23:26,890 I can't. 482 00:23:26,890 --> 00:23:27,690 Can't afford to. 483 00:23:27,690 --> 00:23:28,690 No, I had 88. 484 00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:29,589 Can't. 485 00:23:29,589 --> 00:23:31,190 Taxes are too high. 486 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:32,789 Yeah, my taxes are too high. 487 00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:33,289 Yeah. 488 00:23:33,289 --> 00:23:34,390 No, I agree with you. 489 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:35,490 It makes sense. 490 00:23:35,589 --> 00:23:39,490 It makes sense to have them do that job and, you know, do away with this. 491 00:23:39,490 --> 00:23:40,589 So, if they have to list it now, right? 492 00:23:40,589 --> 00:23:44,089 But at this point, that's not, we're not at that point. 493 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:46,190 There's nobody coming for certain positions. 494 00:23:46,190 --> 00:23:46,490 Right. 495 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:46,990 Some positions. 496 00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:55,789 But if, if you thought you could fill it next week and the slide board wants to wait another two weeks, now we don't have anybody tomorrow. 497 00:23:55,789 --> 00:23:57,089 That's our problem. 498 00:23:57,089 --> 00:23:58,490 We don't have anybody tomorrow. 499 00:23:58,490 --> 00:24:00,589 Who do you have to train tomorrow? 500 00:24:00,589 --> 00:24:03,190 I mean, you've got to. 501 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:05,089 So, the person's just, she's leaving tomorrow. 502 00:24:05,089 --> 00:24:05,589 And you've got to. 503 00:24:05,589 --> 00:24:09,470 Somebody that really doesn't know the job is walking in on it. 504 00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:10,369 Maybe. 505 00:24:10,369 --> 00:24:13,670 That's my, I haven't interviewed either one of these candidates. 506 00:24:13,670 --> 00:24:18,069 Maybe one of the candidates or both the candidates know the job inside and out. 507 00:24:18,069 --> 00:24:22,269 But would you hire a clerk right now if you had somebody come in to be the lister? 508 00:24:22,269 --> 00:24:23,569 That's my. 509 00:24:23,569 --> 00:24:24,670 No, probably not. 510 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:26,069 You have to. 511 00:24:26,069 --> 00:24:30,859 If I, if I had someone tomorrow that we can appoint. 512 00:24:30,859 --> 00:24:33,160 It can't be, it just can't be a vacancy. 513 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,660 Right. 514 00:24:33,660 --> 00:24:35,259 And it's not at this point. 515 00:24:35,259 --> 00:24:37,960 We don't have anybody right this second. 516 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,819 And you already have that. 517 00:24:39,819 --> 00:24:40,119 Yeah. 518 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,720 We have that. 519 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,710 Yeah. 520 00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:48,609 I'm just saying we're in that, we're in that same situation. 521 00:24:48,609 --> 00:24:49,009 We wait. 522 00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:49,509 I just don't. 523 00:24:49,509 --> 00:24:50,309 It's the last minute thing. 524 00:24:50,309 --> 00:24:51,309 Taxes and all that. 525 00:24:51,309 --> 00:24:54,210 And then you're going to have to hire somebody else. 526 00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:55,710 It's a last minute situation. 527 00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:56,109 Yeah. 528 00:24:56,109 --> 00:24:57,410 You know. 529 00:24:57,410 --> 00:24:58,910 It can't be a vacated position. 530 00:24:58,910 --> 00:25:01,609 It's got to be filled like instantaneously. 531 00:25:01,609 --> 00:25:03,029 I don't know. 532 00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:05,930 I mean, is there work to be done next week? 533 00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:09,329 Or if there's no work to be done, like you said. 534 00:25:09,329 --> 00:25:10,930 Sally gave us extra two weeks. 535 00:25:10,930 --> 00:25:13,359 During that two weeks, did she work? 536 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Yeah. 537 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,660 Yeah. 538 00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:15,960 You know, what did she do? 539 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,049 Is there actual jobs that she's doing? 540 00:25:20,049 --> 00:25:22,250 I think she's just trying to bring everything up to speed. 541 00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:22,549 Yeah. 542 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:26,299 And get it ready to. 543 00:25:26,299 --> 00:25:29,400 And that's the other question is, is if the next person steps in, 544 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,599 is she going to kind of guide them? 545 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:32,900 Or has she done nothing? 546 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:37,319 Oh, I mean, maybe a half second. 547 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:39,579 Sure. 548 00:25:39,579 --> 00:25:42,119 If you've got two. 549 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:42,819 And what? 550 00:25:42,819 --> 00:25:43,119 What? 551 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,519 I'm saying. 552 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:44,819 Are you shaking your head no? 553 00:25:44,819 --> 00:25:45,819 No, I don't know. 554 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,819 I don't know. 555 00:25:46,819 --> 00:25:48,319 She didn't say what she's doing. 556 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:53,019 If you have two people who applied for the job, 557 00:25:53,019 --> 00:25:57,200 do we have any idea whether Julianne has any background? 558 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,609 According to what I read, I have. 559 00:26:03,609 --> 00:26:09,720 I want to talk about what the board did not assume anything. 560 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,319 Maybe the board knows more than I do. 561 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,420 I've just read the resume. 562 00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:16,319 And I read Nancy's resume. 563 00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:18,019 And I personally know Nancy. 564 00:26:18,019 --> 00:26:20,319 So I know what she's done for the town. 565 00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:22,119 I know her capabilities. 566 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:23,319 I know what she's done for the town. 567 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:25,319 But I want to make sure it's fair. 568 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:29,319 I wonder if in fairness you take on somebody from, you know, new to the job 569 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:36,000 and new to working in the town and knowing that it's only going to be a short-term position. 570 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Right. 571 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Well, that's, yeah. 572 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000 That's true. 573 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Or if Nancy takes the position. 574 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 And she gets fired. 575 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 She don't care. 576 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Yeah. 577 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 And it drops. 578 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,509 And it goes away in three months. 579 00:26:47,509 --> 00:26:50,509 It isn't like a young person coming in. 580 00:26:50,509 --> 00:26:51,509 Stop losing her. 581 00:26:51,509 --> 00:26:52,509 Yeah. 582 00:26:52,509 --> 00:26:53,509 I get it. 583 00:26:53,509 --> 00:26:55,079 I get it. 584 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:56,529 I get it. 585 00:26:56,529 --> 00:26:59,069 I get it. 586 00:26:59,069 --> 00:27:00,069 The smartest thing would be I take on somebody that knows what they're doing right now. 587 00:27:00,069 --> 00:27:01,319 Well. 588 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:02,450 And then if a lister comes in tomorrow and says, I'll be the lister, you have someone 589 00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:03,450 here that could stay on for a while and train. 590 00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:04,609 I would like to. 591 00:27:04,609 --> 00:27:05,609 I can't train. 592 00:27:05,609 --> 00:27:06,609 I can't train anybody. 593 00:27:06,609 --> 00:27:08,000 Because I don't know what to do there. 594 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 I'd like to take, to train somebody for the assessor clerk. 595 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Well, but you've come with familiarity. 596 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,000 I've done part of it over the years. 597 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000 As a record. 598 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Because I don't know what to do there. 599 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000 I'd like to take, to train somebody for the assessor clerk. 600 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,000 No, but you've come with familiarity. 601 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,000 I've done part of it over the years. 602 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,509 As a record. 603 00:27:17,509 --> 00:27:19,509 I don't know what to do there. 604 00:27:19,509 --> 00:27:31,990 I'd like to train somebody for the assessor clerk. 605 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:33,990 But you've come with familiarity. 606 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:38,789 I've done part of it over the years that I've helped. 607 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:44,789 When I was clerk and treasurer, we were still doing the same thing that we did 18 years ago. 608 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:46,980 That part I'm doing. 609 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:54,299 We're going to an executive session anyway. 610 00:27:54,299 --> 00:28:04,200 I would like to talk about it a little bit more, but I just want to read the letter again and not take up the time. 611 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:11,539 Okay. 612 00:28:11,539 --> 00:28:13,539 Plan future budget meetings. 613 00:28:13,539 --> 00:28:19,500 So, do we want to start reviewing employee salaries? 614 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,500 I think we did that like in December last year. 615 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:30,079 And then start thinking about budgets. 616 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:35,200 We could do employee salaries whenever you feel like it. 617 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,200 That's pretty quick. 618 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,579 No payments to raise this year again. 619 00:28:38,579 --> 00:28:48,500 Before meetings, after meetings, before our next meeting, 530. 620 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:49,720 Yeah. 621 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,720 A couple of the employees. 622 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Yeah. 623 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,900 Sure. 624 00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:59,569 Can you, we could do Dave and Mike and Jim or talk about them. 625 00:28:59,569 --> 00:29:06,380 Providing there's no snow because they'll be out. 626 00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:14,039 530 next meeting. 627 00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:28,039 Condons, we got Dan's resignation from the planning commission. 628 00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,039 Anything else under correspondence, Laurie? 629 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:38,160 Old business, 911 numbering update. 630 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Any update on that? 631 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,220 I have not heard anything. 632 00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:45,779 Sign update. 633 00:29:45,779 --> 00:29:48,930 They were planting the post this afternoon. 634 00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:49,930 They won't grow. 635 00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:50,930 But you want to take care of them that way. 636 00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:53,880 Yeah. 637 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,880 They stuck the post in the ground. 638 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,880 Supposedly, they have three or four signs that they're doing. 639 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,880 So, they've tooled up for the sign machine or the, you know what I'm talking about. 640 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,880 Sort of like CNC type of thing. 641 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,880 And so, once the, they've already got the letters and stuff all done, they just got 642 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,880 to go from there. 643 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,880 That's got to set up. 644 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880 Contract is what I think they usually take it to the . 645 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880 I think it's already done. 646 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Yeah. 647 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,880 Yeah. 648 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880 Yeah. 649 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,880 Yeah. 650 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Yeah. 651 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,980 Yeah. 652 00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:09,980 Yeah. 653 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:10,980 Yeah. 654 00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:11,980 Yeah. 655 00:30:11,980 --> 00:30:12,980 Yeah. 656 00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:13,980 Yeah. 657 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:14,980 Yeah. 658 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:15,980 Yeah. 659 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:21,589 Yeah. 660 00:30:21,589 --> 00:30:22,589 Yeah. 661 00:30:22,589 --> 00:30:23,589 Yeah. 662 00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:24,619 Yeah. 663 00:30:24,619 --> 00:30:25,619 Yeah. 664 00:30:25,619 --> 00:30:26,619 Yeah. 665 00:30:26,619 --> 00:30:27,619 Yeah. 666 00:30:27,619 --> 00:30:28,619 Yeah. 667 00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:29,619 Yeah. 668 00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:30,619 Perfect. 669 00:30:30,619 --> 00:30:41,160 It's coming up on like the third anniversary or something. 670 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,160 Yeah. 671 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,240 We might have to have a parade. 672 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Get rid of all three signs down the road. 673 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,240 Okay, town heating unit in the works. 674 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,240 New business. 675 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,240 I was going to ask about the Christmas tree. 676 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,240 Anybody want to volunteer to take on that project? 677 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,240 We're going to have a Christmas tree. 678 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,240 Give me a tree. 679 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,240 I'll put it up. 680 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,809 Decorate, put up, decorate. 681 00:30:54,809 --> 00:30:55,809 Responsible, what's half the committee doing? 682 00:30:55,809 --> 00:30:56,809 I'm taking all of that. 683 00:30:56,809 --> 00:30:57,809 I'm an old lady. 684 00:30:57,809 --> 00:30:58,809 So, I'm going to make a tree. 685 00:30:58,809 --> 00:31:29,079 want to do that. Where did we end up getting one last year? John. John donated one? Yeah. I thought that Mr. Greenbush mentioned last year that he was going to do something. Remember? So it's been kind of kicked around for a long time. Yeah. The meetings kept getting cancelled unfortunately. Not going to happen. Not to my knowledge. I know there was some more stuff. Yeah. With talks with the center. Yeah. And Stephanie. I can reach out to her and see if she's. I don't know. I just haven't been getting the meetings. 686 00:31:29,099 --> 00:31:59,079 I know they've had a couple. It's a lot of work. And it's. Yeah. It's. It's. There's a lot of behind the scenes stuff. And I mean. I just couldn't take it on myself. Yeah. And I'm trying to get a. Christmas tree. Well. Well just to do a big thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. And not just kind of like. Right. We should make it a town event for people to like. Yeah. I think that if we're going to do that we've got to do it way in advance. Sooner. Yeah. So doing it. Yeah. Right before Thanksgiving. I mean I'll put up a tree. If you guys want to get a tree or if you guys want to get a tree. 687 00:31:59,099 --> 00:32:29,529 If you know someone who's got a tree or if John. I'll talk to John. I don't know if John's doing trees this year. I don't know. Because Canada's charging you know big bucks for the trees this year I think. So a lot of people aren't doing trees this year. But I'm sure that someone. I mean I don't have a problem going to buy a tree. And I don't want any reimbursement or anything. But if you guys want to give me that I'll get a tree. I'll put it in a stand and I'll put it up. But I'm not decorating it. I'm not putting out a big variety. I think Deb said she didn't have a tree. 688 00:32:29,549 --> 00:32:59,529 I don't have any more trees either up there. I can look. I'll look. If I find one. If someone else finds one and you got one just let me know. I can pick it up or whatever. I think Luke. I see a sign out there. Is Luke doing them? Okay. Yeah I can talk to Luke and get one out of the way and stuff. Because I like last year's. It wasn't too big. It was easier to handle. Yeah. I know it's a little bit smaller. I like that we have one. I think that's great that we have a tree. I think kids will like it too. Well I really wish we could do that. 689 00:32:59,549 --> 00:33:29,670 I think it looks pretty. Yeah. That night that we light it. Like you know all the towns do. That looks nice. You know. I'm buried in things. I know the center is planning something. I'm not 100% sure. We're supposed to be meeting Monday. What's the center? It's Stephanie's. The old church. It's called the center. Oh okay. So we're our planning commission meeting. We have our bylaw rules. 690 00:33:30,089 --> 00:33:59,059 If anybody wants to stop by it's 11 o'clock Wednesday. Here? Monday. I'm sorry. At the center. We didn't want to interfere with the day-to-day operation here and a lot of people had time during the day. We warned the meeting. It's just down there. We warned the meeting so it's going to take place like every Monday. 11 o'clock during the day. 11 o'clock. We have that time span. Sure. 691 00:33:59,059 --> 00:34:36,920 And that's what are you going to be doing? That's the town plan you're talking about? The bylaws. Oh the bylaws. Yeah. Alright so with the Christmas tree if you guys want them, if you want me to get one, just call me and I can work on it. I'll get something. We'll wait to hear from Jim. See you. I'll help you. Well either way if you're doing something out in America it doesn't matter. We want to put a tree here. No I know. I'm just saying I don't know. Yeah. We'll get something. I've got to cut a tree. Yeah. Yeah. 692 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,420 You're the purpose. 693 00:34:38,860 --> 00:34:42,860 They're pretty nasty looking, they're pretty bad, pretty bad. 694 00:34:42,860 --> 00:34:44,119 One trim, one trim. 695 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,840 What order, Matt, what order put on there? 696 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,880 Charlie Brownhill. 697 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,800 Don't kill it, Mike. 698 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,599 That's what the name of my house is, you know, Charlie Brownhill. 699 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,320 Charlie Brownhill, yep. 700 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,900 Okay, any other new business, Laurie? 701 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:57,420 No. 702 00:34:57,420 --> 00:34:59,420 No, any other new business, guys? 703 00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:00,320 No. 704 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,159 How come old business, oh, it is on there, I'm sorry. 705 00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:04,119 Sorry, sorry. 706 00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:04,619 Okay. 707 00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:06,360 Oh, really? 708 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,280 I make a motion to go into executive session for pending or 709 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:15,099 probable civil litigation or prosecution to which the public body is or may be a party to. 710 00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:21,519 Also, did you want to go in for reviewing these? 711 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:22,119 Yes, please. 712 00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:26,030 Okay, all right. 713 00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:30,289 That's the motion to go into executive session, and those are the two reasons why. 714 00:35:30,289 --> 00:35:31,389 Second. 715 00:35:31,389 --> 00:35:32,349 All in favor? 716 00:35:32,349 --> 00:35:34,340 Aye. 717 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:40,099 I will stay for the civil litigation, but I will remove myself with this one. 718 00:35:40,099 --> 00:35:42,559 If we might want to ask you, 719 00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:44,280 I have a question, so we can do that, right? 720 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:49,469 Okay, yep, yep. 721 00:35:49,469 --> 00:35:51,670 To be fair, I wish the other girl was here.