1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,539 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 2 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:29,570 Welcome to a meeting with the Stanford Select Board. If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda, you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address. 3 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:34,829 You will notice that all our meetings are recorded, and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes. 4 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:40,090 Visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic. 5 00:00:40,750 --> 00:00:44,649 Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others. 6 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:46,969 Select Board members present are... 7 00:00:46,969 --> 00:00:47,570 Mike Dinault. 8 00:00:47,829 --> 00:00:48,710 Nancy Besheka. 9 00:00:48,890 --> 00:00:49,469 John Dunn. 10 00:00:50,250 --> 00:00:52,350 Lori, have you heard from Kurt, if he's coming? 11 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:53,189 No, I haven't. 12 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:55,710 No, because Doug said he couldn't be here. 13 00:00:56,659 --> 00:01:00,320 Will there be any adding of items or removing items from tonight's meeting? 14 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:01,039 Tonight's agenda. 15 00:01:01,719 --> 00:01:05,980 I do have some correspondence that's come in since the agenda was made. 16 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:10,400 Will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order of items? 17 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,510 I don't think so. 18 00:01:13,310 --> 00:01:17,109 And Jeb is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video. 19 00:01:19,909 --> 00:01:21,090 Hearing of visitors. 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,400 Regular minutes of October 16, 2025. 21 00:01:30,459 --> 00:01:31,200 Motion to approve. 22 00:01:32,349 --> 00:01:32,829 Second. 23 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:34,900 All in favor? 24 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:42,579 All in favor? 25 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:43,159 Yes. 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Highway update. 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,159 Highway update. 28 00:01:49,219 --> 00:01:50,079 Normal fall. 29 00:01:57,209 --> 00:02:03,760 Getting all the equipment ready. 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,040 All trucks are back? 31 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:06,980 Yeah, all the trucks are... 32 00:02:06,980 --> 00:02:18,879 It snowed today at my house. 33 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Yeah, it snowed a little bit. 34 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:23,650 So something like sleep last afternoon. 35 00:02:24,189 --> 00:02:28,400 How are the new fellow working out? 36 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,939 And you're using him elsewhere? 37 00:02:30,699 --> 00:02:33,020 Yeah, I mean, he's been doing a lot of... 38 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:42,520 Getting equipment ready and... 39 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Yeah. 40 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:48,840 Trucks needed a lot of repair. 41 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:54,250 We had to send to the freight liner to do some of it because some of it we just can't do. 42 00:02:57,169 --> 00:03:17,259 We had to do a lot of other stuff and then there was other stuff they noticed while I was there, so I had them do it and brought it back and we've done a bunch more work because we decided we needed to do the rest of it ourselves. 43 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:23,129 Yeah, after the five-year mark on these trucks, they just started to cost. 44 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,819 So are we going to put in for a new truck this year? 45 00:03:26,819 --> 00:03:37,870 I mean, I can, but this is also a chip seal year, which I'm currently working with an all-state guy to come project. 46 00:03:38,689 --> 00:03:42,069 We've got a new hire, so the budget's going to, you know... 47 00:03:42,069 --> 00:03:56,129 The thing with the trucks, Dave, is if we're putting in $18,000, $20,000, you buy a truck, and I don't know what the payments are per month, $1,500 a month, whatever we have, $2,000 a month, I'm not sure what you're paying. 48 00:03:56,789 --> 00:04:05,879 But, you know, $100,000 machine down the shop, I pay $2,000 a month, so that's, what, $25,000 a year. 49 00:04:07,009 --> 00:04:09,129 Five years, you look at it and say, we can go out. 50 00:04:09,169 --> 00:04:11,250 Oh, I have another $100,000 truck, but we're ahead of you. 51 00:04:12,129 --> 00:04:12,490 Yeah. 52 00:04:13,050 --> 00:04:14,909 I mean, it depends on what truck we get. 53 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:19,389 The one that we've been having issues with is probably more like a $200,000 truck. 54 00:04:19,790 --> 00:04:22,370 Now, I think the only person that's been is $130,000. 55 00:04:22,589 --> 00:04:25,029 Which truck are you having the most trouble with? 56 00:04:25,029 --> 00:04:27,649 The 2019 Freightliner at this point. 57 00:04:28,410 --> 00:04:29,430 And it's paid off. 58 00:04:29,490 --> 00:04:30,689 It was paid off in 24. 59 00:04:31,069 --> 00:04:31,389 Yeah. 60 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:33,430 I mean, it does get used a lot. 61 00:04:33,550 --> 00:04:36,290 We use that truck a lot, so... 62 00:04:36,290 --> 00:04:38,470 But if you lose the rotation... 63 00:04:38,470 --> 00:04:38,769 Right. 64 00:04:38,769 --> 00:04:40,629 I think you should start... 65 00:04:40,629 --> 00:04:46,810 You get to that, where it's starting to cost you $40,000 a year, and the prices just went up again next year and next year. 66 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:49,310 So, it won't hurt to look at it. 67 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:51,509 Part of the issue is, like, reliability. 68 00:04:51,970 --> 00:04:57,129 I mean, in downtime, it's been gone for, you know, over a month. 69 00:04:57,310 --> 00:05:02,689 Are we putting, like we did with the fire truck, are we putting away money for new equipment? 70 00:05:02,769 --> 00:05:03,709 Yeah, we are putting it aside. 71 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:06,310 We should look at that, maybe. 72 00:05:06,810 --> 00:05:08,310 If you don't actually go to buy... 73 00:05:08,990 --> 00:05:10,350 Right, at least... 74 00:05:10,350 --> 00:05:15,850 You certainly ought to put up the amount you're putting aside for it, because you know it's coming. 75 00:05:16,089 --> 00:05:16,990 Right, right. 76 00:05:16,990 --> 00:05:17,990 I mean, I don't... 77 00:05:18,670 --> 00:05:23,459 I hadn't really intended on replacing that truck for a few more years. 78 00:05:23,459 --> 00:05:24,279 Five thousand, maybe. 79 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,620 I thought about replacing the Ram. 80 00:05:26,819 --> 00:05:27,319 That's okay. 81 00:05:27,899 --> 00:05:31,920 Only because it's probably worth something at this point, where... 82 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,879 That's another thing. 83 00:05:33,019 --> 00:05:35,680 You know, where the other one is, we're just going to take a beating. 84 00:05:36,019 --> 00:05:38,980 You know, when we went with the front loader, we couldn't get a dime for it. 85 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,439 You know, we were lucky to get rid of that. 86 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:46,339 The other thing is, you're not just going to go trade it in and walk away with the other one. 87 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,899 I mean, it's at least a year. 88 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:48,839 Yeah. 89 00:05:49,019 --> 00:05:50,980 We probably should really start looking at it. 90 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:51,540 Maybe two. 91 00:05:51,660 --> 00:05:53,500 That's six years old now, almost seven years old. 92 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:56,259 On a bigger truck, you're probably looking at two years almost. 93 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:56,680 Yeah. 94 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,899 By the time you get it. 95 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,720 By the time we go through the process. 96 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:02,699 So, it won't hurt to start looking at numbers. 97 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,660 It never hurts to say, hey, here's the numbers. 98 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,740 We can only say, no, we can't build this year. 99 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,100 Like Bill's saying, no. 100 00:06:09,139 --> 00:06:13,300 We go to the town and we say, we'll do something, put away something. 101 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,120 It doesn't hit taxpayers hard that way. 102 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:21,420 When you go from, you know, 5% a year to 15%, then they want to hang us. 103 00:06:22,670 --> 00:06:23,269 The Rams. 104 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:24,209 We're not the school. 105 00:06:24,209 --> 00:06:29,449 Five years ago when we bought that truck, it was around $105,000. 106 00:06:30,730 --> 00:06:31,250 $105,000? 107 00:06:31,449 --> 00:06:31,649 Yeah. 108 00:06:31,649 --> 00:06:32,889 It paid off next year. 109 00:06:33,470 --> 00:06:37,509 So, I mean, it's probably 130-ish. 110 00:06:37,709 --> 00:06:39,410 Yeah, I was going to say, that was six years ago. 111 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:41,930 Yeah, but I have to say, I mean. 112 00:06:42,089 --> 00:06:42,209 Yeah. 113 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:47,139 Well, it almost looks like level funding after the first year. 114 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:53,920 Or actually, by the time you actually get it, you wouldn't have any truck payments going out on either of those two. 115 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:54,360 Right. 116 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Yeah. 117 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,860 I mean, it wouldn't be a bad idea. 118 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:04,209 The only thing we're paying is, well, the Dodge is paid off. 119 00:07:04,370 --> 00:07:06,089 The Freightliner's paid off. 120 00:07:07,379 --> 00:07:10,019 So, at one time, we had about four loans. 121 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,500 Now, we've got a couple paid off. 122 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,980 The paving loan will be paid next year. 123 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:17,459 Yeah. 124 00:07:18,779 --> 00:07:22,990 Okay, so the paving chip, we could really probably get another vehicle. 125 00:07:23,209 --> 00:07:24,490 Think about looking that up. 126 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:26,449 It's not going to affect it. 127 00:07:26,449 --> 00:07:27,250 Well, we should. 128 00:07:35,439 --> 00:07:35,959 Well, we can. 129 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:45,290 That's kind of a homeowner's work. 130 00:07:45,350 --> 00:07:46,149 Keep that one going. 131 00:07:46,189 --> 00:07:48,389 Yeah, we won't bother with the trucks. 132 00:07:51,129 --> 00:07:56,009 Get the truck, whatever you think you need for, if you want to replace. 133 00:07:58,540 --> 00:07:59,439 Well, that's my point. 134 00:08:02,019 --> 00:08:07,430 Dave, I just, I've got an old sheet. 135 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,500 Like, I've already done. 136 00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:27,930 You know, that's just what I do in business. 137 00:08:28,310 --> 00:08:28,850 The downtime. 138 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,700 When that's down, you're leaning on something that might not be the right thing to do the job. 139 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:40,299 Yeah. 140 00:08:40,379 --> 00:08:41,340 But you've got to use it. 141 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:44,029 So, if we order it, it takes two years. 142 00:08:44,429 --> 00:08:46,490 In two years, the truck's definitely going to be. 143 00:08:46,769 --> 00:08:54,179 I would say, I mean, I feel like we could get another Ram, that size truck. 144 00:08:54,379 --> 00:08:56,519 I think they're a little cheaper, they're more cracked, though. 145 00:08:56,519 --> 00:09:05,350 I was hoping we'd get the longevity with a bigger truck, that medium-duty size truck. 146 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:16,100 But it just seems like, when the repairs hit, they're just so costly, that maybe a couple of them are right. 147 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:20,200 Well, it looks like we have, it looks like we still have $17,000 in the Equipment Replacement Fund. 148 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,350 Does that sound right, Laurie? 149 00:09:22,350 --> 00:09:30,350 We didn't, and we put $5,000 in for this year, which is not much, but I think we should start looking at it. 150 00:09:30,350 --> 00:09:35,870 It ought to be something more like $25,000 at least this year, if you're not outright buying something new. 151 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:36,370 Yeah. 152 00:09:36,370 --> 00:09:39,809 And if you know, if you're buying something new, you've got to start building to it. 153 00:09:39,809 --> 00:09:50,360 So, it'll be $25,000 or $50,000 this year, to put you so far ahead, because you're not paying anything for a year and a half before they deliver it. 154 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:58,110 I agree, I'd rather get yelled at, than not have a truck and have a real thing yelled at. 155 00:09:58,110 --> 00:10:00,789 Yeah, I know you hate to spend money, Dave, but. 156 00:10:00,789 --> 00:10:04,909 Unfortunately, I think it's, it just comes down to the cost per mile. 157 00:10:04,909 --> 00:10:10,730 I think it's the same, whether you're, you've got a new one and you're running it, or you've got an old one and you're running it, it's just the downtime. 158 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:11,230 Sure. 159 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:16,480 It's different. A new one should be able to be workable more often than an older one. 160 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:16,980 Absolutely. 161 00:10:16,980 --> 00:10:17,480 Uh-huh. 162 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,980 Because we're beyond, years ago, things lasted, you know. 163 00:10:21,980 --> 00:10:22,480 Correct. 164 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Repairs were a long year, now it's. 165 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Yeah. 166 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:35,159 I just knew, a lady told me that she just had to replace her washing machine. I said, how old is it, 20? 42 years old. 167 00:10:35,159 --> 00:10:35,659 Oh, geez. 168 00:10:35,659 --> 00:10:36,159 Yeah. 169 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:36,659 Yeah. 170 00:10:36,659 --> 00:10:37,159 Yeah. 171 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,159 How do you know if you get four? 172 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:39,659 Yeah. 173 00:10:39,659 --> 00:10:40,159 Yeah. 174 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:42,009 She said, I hate to buy a new one. 175 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:45,009 I said, yeah, well, if you're new, it's not going to last 42 years. 176 00:10:45,009 --> 00:10:45,509 Yeah. 177 00:10:45,509 --> 00:10:46,009 Sure. 178 00:10:46,009 --> 00:10:57,019 Um, I put in for the Better Bad Growns grant, uh, for the Sportsman's Suzanne Drive intersection. 179 00:10:57,019 --> 00:11:14,779 The guy that heads up that grant program contacted Lori, and I called him this week, because apparently they're not going to have much funding for the category D, which is the category that I put in for. 180 00:11:14,779 --> 00:11:15,779 Because I was trying to follow. 181 00:11:15,779 --> 00:11:21,899 I was trying to follow what their recommendation was as far as the concrete headwalls and wingwalls. 182 00:11:21,899 --> 00:11:24,899 And that was the hydraulic guy recommended that? 183 00:11:24,899 --> 00:11:33,159 Right. The hydraulic study recommendation had concrete headwalls and wingwalls, which brings the price up. 184 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:38,190 The category D was a 60, up to a $60,000 grant. 185 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:43,360 I think with the concrete, it came in around 50-ish. 186 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Upper 50? 187 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:44,860 Yeah. 188 00:11:44,860 --> 00:11:45,860 So. 189 00:11:45,860 --> 00:11:49,860 He contacted me, and he felt like they weren't going to have enough funding. 190 00:11:49,860 --> 00:11:59,120 And if they did, he had 30 other applications that he felt were probably ahead of ours as far as what he would pick. 191 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:09,700 So he wanted me to rewrite it so that it didn't have the concrete, so we would just have stone headwalls and wingwalls. 192 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:13,590 It's what we typically have anyway. 193 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:16,590 So Lori and I put that together. 194 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:19,590 And it came in around $20,000-ish, Lori? 195 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:23,100 $20,000, which will be fine. 196 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:26,100 $20,000 and $24,000. 197 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:27,100 Yeah. 198 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:37,940 So that will qualify for the category B for the Better Backroads this year, which is what he suggested we do. 199 00:12:37,940 --> 00:12:45,860 But he wanted to have it in. 200 00:12:45,860 --> 00:12:57,559 It seems to me the CRC did it. 201 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,559 This was a recommendation. 202 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,559 And then the grant fellow that holds the money says, 203 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,559 No, no, no, you're not going to get that. 204 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,169 So we have to go a cheaper way. 205 00:13:08,169 --> 00:13:15,669 How long is the new one? 206 00:13:15,669 --> 00:13:17,669 Well, I don't have to say cheaper way. 207 00:13:17,669 --> 00:13:19,669 The $20,000 one's going to last. 208 00:13:19,669 --> 00:13:23,669 Like you said, you've done them before with stone wingwalls. 209 00:13:23,669 --> 00:13:30,470 Yeah, I don't think the, I mean, really the concrete is nice, unnecessary. 210 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:31,470 It's over-engineered. 211 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:35,470 The steel culvert's going to last the same amount of time when you're in the concrete. 212 00:13:35,470 --> 00:13:37,470 It's over-engineered, so. 213 00:13:37,470 --> 00:13:39,470 That seems to be the case in a lot of them. 214 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:44,570 You know the reason why I want that room is because that's what they suggested in this year's grant. 215 00:13:44,570 --> 00:13:46,570 It's a state grant, so. 216 00:13:46,570 --> 00:13:48,570 But if he's the guy that's giving out the money. 217 00:13:48,570 --> 00:13:50,570 But this guy's the guy that's doing all the work. 218 00:13:50,570 --> 00:13:51,570 Oh, yeah. 219 00:13:51,570 --> 00:13:58,629 If the cheaper grant gives us a better system than what's up there now, take it. 220 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:59,629 Yeah. 221 00:13:59,629 --> 00:14:00,629 Right? 222 00:14:00,629 --> 00:14:01,629 Yeah, I agree. 223 00:14:01,629 --> 00:14:03,629 So right now we have a system up there that's not working well. 224 00:14:03,629 --> 00:14:04,789 Take it. 225 00:14:04,789 --> 00:14:06,529 And do it. 226 00:14:06,529 --> 00:14:07,529 When can you do this? 227 00:14:07,529 --> 00:14:09,529 When can you do this project? 228 00:14:09,529 --> 00:14:20,970 In reality, we're going to sign it. 229 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:21,970 So the board agrees? 230 00:14:21,970 --> 00:14:22,970 Sign it? 231 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:23,970 Send it in? 232 00:14:23,970 --> 00:14:24,970 I agree. 233 00:14:24,970 --> 00:14:25,970 You agree? 234 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:26,970 Yes. 235 00:14:26,970 --> 00:14:28,480 Let's do it. 236 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Take your money. 237 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Do you want to favor me? 238 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,480 I'm just mad about it, and I shouldn't be. 239 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,929 I know. 240 00:14:32,929 --> 00:14:33,929 You can vote your personal feelings. 241 00:14:33,929 --> 00:14:35,059 Yes. 242 00:14:35,059 --> 00:14:36,059 Or you can vote what's right. 243 00:14:36,059 --> 00:14:37,059 Oh, jeez. 244 00:14:37,059 --> 00:14:38,059 It's just the point that you can put so much time into doing something. 245 00:14:38,059 --> 00:14:39,059 They should just let you know right off the bat. 246 00:14:39,059 --> 00:14:40,059 Yeah. 247 00:14:40,059 --> 00:14:42,909 I totally understand that. 248 00:14:42,909 --> 00:14:43,909 Yes. 249 00:14:43,909 --> 00:14:44,909 So you can vote what's right. 250 00:14:44,909 --> 00:14:45,909 Oh, jeez. 251 00:14:45,909 --> 00:14:46,909 It's just the point that you can put so much time into doing something. 252 00:14:46,909 --> 00:14:47,909 They should just let you know right off the bat. 253 00:14:47,909 --> 00:14:48,909 Yeah. 254 00:14:48,909 --> 00:14:49,909 I totally understand that. 255 00:14:49,909 --> 00:14:50,909 Yes. 256 00:14:50,909 --> 00:14:52,460 It's politics. 257 00:14:52,460 --> 00:14:53,460 That's what it is. 258 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:54,460 Politics gets in the way. 259 00:14:54,460 --> 00:14:55,460 The one that's holding the purse string is driving things just like... 260 00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:56,460 In the way of a lot of things, like... 261 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:57,460 ...of everything. 262 00:14:57,460 --> 00:14:58,460 Yeah. 263 00:14:58,460 --> 00:15:00,740 Yeah. 264 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:01,740 A piece of pie is better than no pie. 265 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:03,789 Yeah. 266 00:15:03,789 --> 00:15:05,210 Exactly. 267 00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:12,450 Cheaper. 268 00:15:12,450 --> 00:15:21,720 They just said, you're not getting another one, so why are we even worried about it 269 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,720 now, guys? 270 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,720 We're not getting it. 271 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,779 You want something or nothing? 272 00:15:24,779 --> 00:15:25,779 Right. 273 00:15:25,779 --> 00:15:26,779 Do we have, um, boards to sign? 274 00:15:26,779 --> 00:15:28,230 Oh, we're not going to get paid tonight? 275 00:15:28,230 --> 00:15:31,019 Oh, nice. 276 00:15:31,019 --> 00:15:32,019 Meeting is adjourned. 277 00:15:32,019 --> 00:15:34,460 Yep. 278 00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:36,940 No, just the point that you can vote your personal feelings. 279 00:15:36,940 --> 00:15:37,940 Oh, jeez. 280 00:15:37,940 --> 00:15:40,730 Yeah. 281 00:15:40,730 --> 00:15:41,730 I'm sorry. 282 00:15:41,730 --> 00:15:42,730 I'm sorry. 283 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:45,549 I'm sorry. 284 00:15:45,549 --> 00:15:46,549 How many people are here? 285 00:15:46,549 --> 00:15:47,549 I'll tell you. 286 00:15:47,549 --> 00:15:48,549 Yeah. 287 00:15:48,549 --> 00:15:50,480 Um, recycling. 288 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,700 Oh, anything else on the road? 289 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:53,700 Sorry, Dave. 290 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:56,389 You're done. 291 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:57,389 Thanks. 292 00:15:58,769 --> 00:15:59,769 Recycling. 293 00:15:59,769 --> 00:16:00,769 Oh, it's coming. 294 00:16:00,769 --> 00:16:01,769 He was very happy... 295 00:16:01,769 --> 00:16:02,769 Oh. 296 00:16:02,769 --> 00:16:03,769 Be right on it. 297 00:16:03,769 --> 00:16:04,769 So, how... 298 00:16:04,769 --> 00:16:05,769 Did he do anything? 299 00:16:05,769 --> 00:16:07,470 No. 300 00:16:07,470 --> 00:16:08,470 You're right on. 301 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:09,470 Today they switched it out. 302 00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:15,299 It's with the same crumb. 303 00:16:15,299 --> 00:16:16,299 Should I keep bugging him every time? 304 00:16:16,299 --> 00:16:17,299 You can... 305 00:16:17,299 --> 00:16:18,299 Hey, it's your time. 306 00:16:18,299 --> 00:16:19,299 Squeaky wheel. 307 00:16:19,299 --> 00:16:20,299 I mean, I don't mind. 308 00:16:20,299 --> 00:16:21,299 Sure. 309 00:16:21,299 --> 00:16:22,299 I can still do housework and stuff. 310 00:16:22,299 --> 00:16:24,580 Sure. 311 00:16:24,580 --> 00:16:33,850 to use that i'd probably call if it's going to bring those stupid dumpsters you ought to bring 312 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:38,539 a set of stairs that might it's like a trend nowadays oh there's a whole lot here the science 313 00:16:38,539 --> 00:16:44,700 service service centers they're just well they're in for now it used to take me three minutes to 314 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:55,929 call and get one on mount peter now it's the 40 45. the service that that is just yeah what about 315 00:16:55,929 --> 00:17:03,110 the transfer station monitor that we it's under discussion about recycling that kind of you want 316 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:13,799 to move it up yep kind of the same he's got to sign all several spots here yeah but you don't 317 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:19,980 have to leave for me to finish signing yeah go ahead laurie um backup transfer station monitor 318 00:17:21,450 --> 00:17:31,660 we have one applicant i have i received one order of interest uh steve senecal he used to work here 319 00:17:31,660 --> 00:17:31,980 at the 320 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:50,410 recycling center 321 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:19,029 can start on there i guess i will 322 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:29,150 This is just a backup guy, we still have the two guys, right? 323 00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:31,150 We're not pushing on anyone. 324 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:33,150 No, no, Buzz is still there. 325 00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:35,279 So it's just a backup, correct? 326 00:18:35,279 --> 00:18:36,279 Yeah. 327 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:38,279 The only guy that applies? 328 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:40,279 Yeah, okay, yeah. 329 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:48,279 Roy did fill in for Harold one time because he did have enough notice. 330 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:51,279 So this guy, he can fill in? 331 00:18:51,279 --> 00:18:52,279 He wants to do it? 332 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:53,279 He's already worked for the town? 333 00:18:53,279 --> 00:18:54,279 Yep. 334 00:18:54,279 --> 00:18:56,279 Are there any problems with the guy at all? 335 00:18:56,279 --> 00:18:59,279 He is requesting $20 an hour. 336 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:01,279 What do we pay now? 337 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:03,279 $16, $18. 338 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:05,279 You can't pay him more than that. 339 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:07,279 We have to pay him the same? 340 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:09,279 Yeah. 341 00:19:09,279 --> 00:19:11,279 Whatever we're paying now is what we're paying. 342 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:13,279 If he doesn't want to take it, that's okay. 343 00:19:13,279 --> 00:19:14,279 Right. 344 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:15,660 I don't know. 345 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:16,660 That's what I'm saying. 346 00:19:16,660 --> 00:19:18,660 Whatever we're paying Carol, I don't know. 347 00:19:18,660 --> 00:19:23,990 And Buzz, we're not going to pay him. 348 00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:24,990 We'll give Carol a raise. 349 00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:26,890 I can't find it here yet. 350 00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:28,500 That usually happens. 351 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:29,500 That usually happens. 352 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:30,500 I got it, Lori. 353 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:31,500 You hire a guy and you pay him. 354 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:32,660 Everybody else gets a raise. 355 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:33,750 It's $20. 356 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:34,750 You've been there. 357 00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:35,750 Yep. 358 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:43,250 That's what Buzz is making. 359 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:45,019 Dave, should he hire Lori? 360 00:19:45,019 --> 00:20:00,319 You need him. 361 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:09,579 Yeah. 362 00:20:09,579 --> 00:20:14,349 He needs to come in and fill out paperwork for Lori. 363 00:20:14,349 --> 00:20:15,349 And then Carol will probably end up calling him when she needs him. 364 00:20:15,349 --> 00:20:16,349 Assessor-clerk position. 365 00:20:16,349 --> 00:20:17,349 We must have, like, 10 of them. 366 00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:23,599 Yeah. 367 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:24,599 We're going to have to do that. 368 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:25,599 We're going to have to do that. 369 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:26,599 We're going to have to do that. 370 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:27,599 We're going to have to do that. 371 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:31,319 Two! 372 00:20:31,319 --> 00:20:32,319 But I. 373 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:38,410 That's two more than I thought we had. 374 00:20:38,410 --> 00:20:39,410 I should leave. 375 00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:43,880 You should leave while you put your name on there. 376 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,420 I will. 377 00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:46,420 Well, we can't vote on you tonight. 378 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:47,420 We don't have enough people. 379 00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:48,420 I know. 380 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:49,549 You can vote. 381 00:20:49,549 --> 00:20:50,549 You can vote. 382 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:51,549 The two can't do it. 383 00:20:51,549 --> 00:20:52,549 We need the four, or three or five. 384 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:53,549 You could vote. 385 00:20:53,549 --> 00:20:54,740 You don't have to. 386 00:20:54,740 --> 00:20:55,809 You don't have to recuse yourself. 387 00:20:55,809 --> 00:21:00,029 If it was the case you just voted for, you could have voted for about three or five. 388 00:21:00,029 --> 00:21:01,029 You don't have to recuse yourself. 389 00:21:01,029 --> 00:21:02,029 No. 390 00:21:02,029 --> 00:21:03,029 Do you think that you... 391 00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:04,029 Oh. 392 00:21:04,029 --> 00:21:33,779 town election did you vote for yourself as a selectman? Yeah. Right. You don't have to if you think you're not going to be biased since there's only two and we're going to hire two. No, we're hiring one. Oh, one. Okay. This is for Sally's position. Oh, okay. Okay. I thought it was Lister's. Lister? No. No, no. So we have two applicants. Do you want to discuss the Julian Sullivan, Jeremy Sullivan's daughter? 393 00:21:34,930 --> 00:22:07,000 Do we want to go into executive session so you can discuss them and look them over? No, I think we should table this until we have more agreed. Okay. So Sally is done tomorrow. Okay. Do you want to keep her on for a few more weeks? She doesn't mind. We got no one to do it. Would you ask Sally if she'd stay on for a couple more weeks then? Yep. Just till we... Till the next election we're meeting? Till we figure out... 394 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,400 I'd rather have... 395 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:35,309 Because there's only one... I thought there was two, I'm sorry. No, no. Yeah. Then definitely you have. Oh. No, you are a teenager. 396 00:22:36,410 --> 00:23:00,359 Long time. I haven't seen you in a long time. Three weeks. Review, third quarter. Did you sign everything in there? I believe so. There's a whole bunch of papers at the end. Let me double check. All those single pages? All those single pages. I don't remember single pages. I've seen one. Were they all clipboarded together? No. Maybe that's why. No, they just keep going. Okay, start there and keep going. 397 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,180 There's a bunch of them just like that. 398 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:17,799 Got that one. Yep. Got that one. Got that one. Oh, you are good. Is that it? Oh, you are good. He just couldn't remember anything. He's quick. He's quick. Okay. Thank you, Jim. 399 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:34,440 It was only three weeks. Sally, what? All right. Review, third quarter, financials. Lori has given us the financials. Okay. Here it is, November, and we have to start thinking about budget time and everything. 400 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Jump out. Straight down to Nancy. 401 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,079 Well, I stood down with Nancy. We went through some of the things. 402 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:51,609 There were a couple of things that we have to update, and there wasn't anything really crazy. 403 00:23:51,609 --> 00:23:53,500 I didn't see anything crazy. We're still waiting for FEMA flood reimbursement, $4,000 from whenever, but there's been a lot of floods since then, and we don't know particularly where the FEMA people are. 404 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:54,920 If you don't agree, you can hear us later tonight. 405 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,720 If anybody wants to stop in in the day and go through the feeling along the crack of night. 406 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:06,990 If somebody else wants to talk about the EMRs, you don't have to. 407 00:24:06,990 --> 00:24:08,289 Good idea. 408 00:24:08,289 --> 00:24:10,549 We're not EncryKnife Reverage North Lincoln. 409 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:11,650 Good idea, Laonday, Morea or Howard, in between. 410 00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:12,650 OK. 411 00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:29,410 The sand line item is quite a bit older, but if you recall last winter there was a salt shortage, so we had to start mixing quite a bit of sand. 412 00:24:29,410 --> 00:24:37,470 And then I'm competing to get sand at that point, so I try to stockpile a little bit because we just want to not have any material. 413 00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:45,880 Are we going through the same system as last year where we have Allen trucking it and everything? 414 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:53,039 Yeah, he said he's going to keep his price the same, so I think that'll do his work. 415 00:24:53,039 --> 00:25:02,769 We got the MERC grant for the garage. We got paid for it already. That was the quickest grant ever. 416 00:25:02,769 --> 00:25:12,769 Right, and just to add, we're going to have some money left over, so we're going to have a new electrical panel put in, 417 00:25:12,769 --> 00:25:17,769 and that's going to allow us to have our generator, so we can just plug the generator in and run the generator. 418 00:25:17,769 --> 00:25:18,769 We only have no power. 419 00:25:18,769 --> 00:25:19,769 Good. 420 00:25:19,769 --> 00:25:22,769 And that's going to be 100% funded by that MERC grant. 421 00:25:22,769 --> 00:25:23,769 Cool. 422 00:25:23,769 --> 00:25:26,769 Because if you don't have power, you can't open the garage doors, right? 423 00:25:26,769 --> 00:25:33,769 Well, when we installed these new garage doors, they have battery backup, so you can get a few opens. 424 00:25:33,769 --> 00:25:35,769 Okay. 425 00:25:35,769 --> 00:25:42,640 So now we'll have heat in there and be able to do lights and everything. 426 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,700 Okay. 427 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:47,430 We're moving up in the road up there. 428 00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:49,430 Yeah, we're getting there. 429 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:53,430 About time for the river to take it, huh? 430 00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:55,430 Yeah, so we can loop these over. 431 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:59,430 I didn't see anything really bad, but... 432 00:25:59,430 --> 00:26:10,029 Haven't we been reimbursed yet for the 25? 433 00:26:10,029 --> 00:26:11,029 Clean water? 434 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:13,029 Clean water grant, yeah. 435 00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:17,250 I didn't see it come in here. No. We paid out. 436 00:26:17,250 --> 00:26:24,250 We paid out for both of them, but now the 25 was submitted, and we just finished up getting the bills for the 26, so... 437 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:31,539 Right. I haven't submitted the 26 yet, but I think that we can. I think we're at that point, right? 438 00:26:31,539 --> 00:26:33,890 Yeah. 439 00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:47,849 We're just waiting on that one last bill. But no, the 25 hasn't come in yet. 440 00:26:47,849 --> 00:26:54,680 So this line item for the school, is that borrowed money? 441 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,680 That's tax money that we collect that we have to turn over to school. 442 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,680 To school. I got you. 443 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,670 So, just shy of a million dollars. 444 00:27:04,670 --> 00:27:14,049 And that is because of their new plan or reorganization. They want 50% of their money in July. 445 00:27:14,049 --> 00:27:15,049 In July, right. 446 00:27:15,049 --> 00:27:17,049 And we have no money then. 447 00:27:17,049 --> 00:27:23,049 So we had, in July we borrowed money, right? And then we have to, now we have the tax money. 448 00:27:23,049 --> 00:27:24,559 Yeah, yeah. 449 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,559 I just want to explain, I know where it's going, but I just want to explain how it's working this year. 450 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,559 What's the interest on the million? 451 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,289 Well, we had... 452 00:27:35,289 --> 00:27:36,289 For what grade? 453 00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:37,289 Four. 454 00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,289 Four or five percent. 455 00:27:39,289 --> 00:27:40,289 Four or five percent. 456 00:27:40,289 --> 00:27:42,289 Which is double what it used to be. 457 00:27:42,289 --> 00:27:44,289 They're costing an amount of money doing that. 458 00:27:44,289 --> 00:27:45,289 Of course it is. 459 00:27:45,289 --> 00:27:46,289 Yeah. 460 00:27:46,289 --> 00:27:47,289 Of course it is. 461 00:27:47,289 --> 00:27:50,289 If they had worked with towns and said, you get a little bit here, this town pays in, or... 462 00:27:50,289 --> 00:27:51,289 They don't care. 463 00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:52,289 Yeah. 464 00:27:52,289 --> 00:27:53,289 They want their money. 465 00:27:53,289 --> 00:27:54,289 They should. 466 00:27:54,289 --> 00:27:55,289 Of course. 467 00:27:55,289 --> 00:27:56,289 The school also... 468 00:27:56,289 --> 00:28:02,450 If you call your governor, he'll agree with you. And then he'll get, his veto will get vetoed up. 469 00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:06,450 Well, I'm wondering if it was just this school that had to borrow money, or every school. 470 00:28:06,450 --> 00:28:10,450 He screwed up everything in the superintendency. 471 00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:16,579 Yeah, I didn't know if it was every school in this district that had to borrow because of a mess up. 472 00:28:16,579 --> 00:28:17,579 Just wait until the district... 473 00:28:17,579 --> 00:28:20,579 We did get the clean water grant, 10,000. 474 00:28:20,579 --> 00:28:21,930 Yeah. 475 00:28:21,930 --> 00:28:23,930 It's going to be four. 476 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:24,930 2024? 477 00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:26,190 I don't think you can say it. 478 00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:29,190 I have an opinion, so I won't say anything yet. 479 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:30,190 Yeah. 480 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:31,190 I think mine are the same. 481 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:32,190 Yeah. 482 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:36,039 Yeah. 483 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:37,930 It's on the school. 484 00:28:37,930 --> 00:28:38,930 Lori's going to check. 485 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:39,930 I apologize. 486 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:40,930 Yeah. 487 00:28:40,930 --> 00:28:42,000 Yeah. 488 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,000 That's the... 489 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000 When you're a lawyer with all that money we're given from bureaucrats, like you said, it's just... 490 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 You can't... 491 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,059 You get a... 492 00:28:49,059 --> 00:28:50,059 It's... 493 00:28:50,059 --> 00:28:51,059 It's going to be brutal. 494 00:28:51,059 --> 00:28:52,480 It's brutal already. 495 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,480 That's going to be a pretty good kind of change. 496 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,480 24? 497 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,480 It's a six-month... 498 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,920 Yeah, it's... 499 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,920 It's a six-month... 500 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,920 It's not... 501 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920 It's not... 502 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,920 It's the last I heard they were trying to do that. 503 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,920 Oh, I thought they did it. 504 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,920 No. 505 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,920 And Bennington was working. 506 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,920 Bennington was working. 507 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,920 Bennington was working. 508 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,920 Bennington was working. 509 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,920 Bennington was working. 510 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Bennington was working. 511 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,920 Bennington was working. 512 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Yeah. 513 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Right. 514 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920 After all the different things that it are going through. 515 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Yeah. 516 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Just people are doing that also. 517 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,920 . 518 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,920 . 519 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,920 I don't know what's... 520 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,920 What's that start with the years? 521 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,920 ... 522 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,950 Woodford is private, I think. 523 00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:22,950 Yeah. 524 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:23,950 . 525 00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:24,950 I'm just guessing. 526 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:25,950 North Bennington is a separate school. 527 00:29:25,950 --> 00:29:26,950 That's . 528 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:27,950 Yeah. 529 00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:28,950 I suggest. 530 00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:32,690 You know, I don't... 531 00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:36,670 I know the school board does their best at not picking out the money from the Physicians. 532 00:29:36,670 --> 00:29:37,670 It's not that important. 533 00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:38,670 . 534 00:29:38,670 --> 00:29:39,670 It's the system. 535 00:29:39,670 --> 00:29:40,670 It goes... 536 00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:41,670 It's so screwed up. 537 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:42,670 . 538 00:29:42,670 --> 00:29:43,670 It doesn't go. 539 00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:44,670 It doesn't... 540 00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:47,210 I understand that this is important what we're doing 541 00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:49,769 and spending money on trucks and things, 542 00:29:49,769 --> 00:29:52,809 but if you could sit down with a taxpayer 543 00:29:52,809 --> 00:29:55,579 to explain to them what's going on 544 00:29:55,579 --> 00:29:57,920 and show them where your taxes are going, 545 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,019 it's unbelievable. 546 00:30:00,019 --> 00:30:01,579 And it's not just Stanford, Vermont, 547 00:30:01,579 --> 00:30:03,079 it's all over the country. 548 00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:04,920 No cars for us going through it right now. 549 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,500 McCann's begging for money, McCann makes money. 550 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,420 And they're begging for money from towns, 551 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:12,170 you know, for a roof and some windows. 552 00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:13,650 North Adams is building new school. 553 00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:16,410 Everybody, they're just dumping money, dumping money. 554 00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:20,470 Which, again, if you go back to the school board meeting 555 00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:24,690 years ago, I asked them, how are our rankings 556 00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:26,190 and our grades? 557 00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:27,470 And it's bad. 558 00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:28,309 Worse. 559 00:30:28,309 --> 00:30:29,150 Real bad. 560 00:30:29,150 --> 00:30:31,890 So if you go all the way back to 1960s and you look, 561 00:30:31,890 --> 00:30:34,609 they just kept throwing money into these school systems 562 00:30:34,609 --> 00:30:36,730 and now we're way up here and the rankings went 563 00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:38,109 way down here. 564 00:30:38,109 --> 00:30:40,269 So money's not the answer. 565 00:30:40,269 --> 00:30:43,640 I don't know what the answer is, but it's not money. 566 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,480 I mean, we're done. 567 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,940 It's serious money. 568 00:30:45,940 --> 00:30:48,740 Look, the educational expense in the country 569 00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:50,720 is higher than the national defense now. 570 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,619 Well, I'm just saying the interest on that money 571 00:30:52,619 --> 00:30:56,299 that we have to borrow and pay for our new truck. 572 00:30:56,299 --> 00:30:57,819 Yeah. 573 00:30:57,819 --> 00:30:58,480 Yeah. 574 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Now, I don't know if we catch up. 575 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,779 Once the first year's gone, is it better or just every year 576 00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:06,119 we've got to borrow money? 577 00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,920 You say you're never going to have enough. 578 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,539 You can't pay a headache. 579 00:31:10,539 --> 00:31:13,079 The only way you do would be changing your tax ability. 580 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:13,579 Right. 581 00:31:13,579 --> 00:31:14,660 You'd have to go into the child care. 582 00:31:14,660 --> 00:31:21,539 You'd have to go in early July, or earlier than July, right? 583 00:31:21,539 --> 00:31:24,470 You almost got a double pass in the first year. 584 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:25,309 You'd have to split it. 585 00:31:25,309 --> 00:31:25,809 Right? 586 00:31:25,809 --> 00:31:28,089 I don't know if you'd have to double tax, 587 00:31:28,089 --> 00:31:31,710 but you'd have to split it in half so that you got half 588 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:36,849 of it coming in early, as we did 25 years ago. 589 00:31:36,849 --> 00:31:39,829 But if you did that, I just got done paying it in November, 590 00:31:39,829 --> 00:31:44,289 and now you tell me I got to pay in April, 591 00:31:44,289 --> 00:31:45,990 the first year is going to be the one that hurts. 592 00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:46,490 First year. 593 00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:46,970 Yeah. 594 00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:47,470 Yeah. 595 00:31:47,470 --> 00:31:49,890 Because now you're saying, jeez, I thought I had it until November. 596 00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:50,470 Now you're talking about . 597 00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:52,769 The people who got in trouble with that kind of thing 598 00:31:52,769 --> 00:31:56,630 are those who are paying their taxes out of an escrow account 599 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:57,589 with their mortgage. 600 00:31:57,589 --> 00:31:58,170 Sure. 601 00:31:58,170 --> 00:32:01,170 And they've got to come up with that out of their pocket. 602 00:32:01,170 --> 00:32:02,289 Oh, right, right, right. 603 00:32:02,289 --> 00:32:03,369 It's not that monthly. 604 00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:05,880 Yeah. 605 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240 And worse than that, the bank looks at it, 606 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,880 and they had to pay out this. 607 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,420 The bill goes to the bank. 608 00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:13,500 We said the bill to the bank. 609 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,319 And the bank says, uh-huh, we paid this much around. 610 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,319 We're going to increase your monthly mortgage payment. 611 00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:20,859 And cover it over, yeah. 612 00:32:20,859 --> 00:32:22,319 And it stays, and you're stuck with it. 613 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:23,640 When you're living paycheck to paycheck. 614 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,390 That's tough. 615 00:32:25,390 --> 00:32:28,009 OK, correspondence, Lori? 616 00:32:28,009 --> 00:32:33,190 So I did receive the VLCT insurance renewal package 617 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:35,089 for 2026. 618 00:32:35,089 --> 00:32:38,220 So you have this little spreadsheet. 619 00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:42,119 I emailed it to Paul Ethier for Claire Drummond, 620 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,279 and I didn't hear back from him yet. 621 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,180 I don't know if you want to take a look at it. 622 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:50,359 He must still be open, because he didn't bring it up. 623 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:54,150 Well, he'll bring it up this coming Monday. 624 00:32:54,150 --> 00:33:00,019 So the building value, the contents of the town office 625 00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:04,990 here, guaranteed replacement costs $36,004. 626 00:33:04,990 --> 00:33:06,250 Do we need to increase that? 627 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,910 Do we have $36,000 worth of stuff here? 628 00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:17,970 I mean, it's things that are not attached. 629 00:33:17,970 --> 00:33:20,650 My thought is this is scam number two. 630 00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:24,160 Yeah. 631 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,660 Keep it. 632 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,220 Keep the content value the same. 633 00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:34,109 The salt shed, no content value, so. 634 00:33:34,109 --> 00:33:35,069 Salt doesn't burn. 635 00:33:35,069 --> 00:33:35,829 Property value. 636 00:33:35,829 --> 00:33:37,029 Yeah, but it gets ruined. 637 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:43,039 Property value, $131,000. 638 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,579 If you burn that salt shed down, the fire department 639 00:33:45,579 --> 00:33:47,359 goes up there and dumps water on it. 640 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:47,940 No water. 641 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:49,940 We'll just mix the embers in with the salt. 642 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:50,440 Oh, OK. 643 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,119 Just let it go? 644 00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:52,279 All right. 645 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,640 Just don't put no water on it, or it'll go down into the brook. 646 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,279 Let's just hope none of that happens. 647 00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:58,440 Yeah, exactly. 648 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,640 That's what it is. 649 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,839 I'm guessing this thing will go up and down. 650 00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,599 I don't know how much it's going to cost, I guess, though. 651 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,059 Well, that's what we don't have here. 652 00:34:07,059 --> 00:34:07,779 We don't have that. 653 00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:10,139 I don't know if there's no heat, anything like that in that salt shed. 654 00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:14,119 I really don't know what you're sharing. 655 00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,079 You don't know what you're talking about? 656 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:17,039 Just a tin building? 657 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,320 Small weight or something. 658 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,619 Just a tin building, isn't it? 659 00:34:20,619 --> 00:34:21,579 You don't know how that goes. 660 00:34:21,579 --> 00:34:26,610 As soon as you make a flame on it, you're paying the back pack. 661 00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:29,380 When the airplane falls on the shed. 662 00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:30,219 Charge the airplane. 663 00:34:30,219 --> 00:34:32,420 Charge the airplane. 664 00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:37,219 But my thing is, there's no numbers here to show what we're paying. 665 00:34:37,219 --> 00:34:41,960 So if you say, all right, Nancy just said $36,000, do we need to increase that? 666 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,050 If we did increase it, say we went to $50,000, what is that expense? 667 00:34:47,050 --> 00:34:47,829 They don't have it. 668 00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:48,969 They're not giving it. 669 00:34:48,969 --> 00:34:51,130 It's all together with everything. 670 00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:51,849 Right. 671 00:34:51,849 --> 00:34:55,250 So they don't give it up numbers. 672 00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:58,719 If you tell them that you want to change it early, they will tell you how much it costs. 673 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,400 You've got to sit down with them. 674 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,719 They will tell you how much it costs. 675 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,199 And then you can look backwards. 676 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:09,840 You went from $30,000 to $50,000, and it's going to cost you another $300 a year. 677 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,840 You can figure out what they charge you. 678 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,099 They still may not give it to you in the end. 679 00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:16,099 Well, they're not giving us the number, the renewal numbers. 680 00:35:16,099 --> 00:35:17,099 Right. 681 00:35:17,099 --> 00:35:18,099 Yeah. 682 00:35:18,099 --> 00:35:19,099 They still may not give you the money. 683 00:35:19,099 --> 00:35:20,099 They're going to give it to us in the end. 684 00:35:20,099 --> 00:35:21,099 If something happens, they may look at it and go, it wasn't worth that. 685 00:35:21,099 --> 00:35:22,099 Yeah. 686 00:35:22,099 --> 00:35:23,099 Then the compactor, $8,000. 687 00:35:23,099 --> 00:35:24,099 So I have a question. 688 00:35:24,099 --> 00:35:25,099 Like, I don't know. 689 00:35:25,099 --> 00:35:26,739 I don't know. 690 00:35:26,739 --> 00:35:27,739 I don't know. 691 00:35:27,739 --> 00:35:28,739 I don't know. 692 00:35:28,739 --> 00:35:29,739 I don't know. 693 00:35:29,739 --> 00:35:33,679 I don't know. 694 00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:34,679 I don't know. 695 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:35,559 I don't know. 696 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:36,559 I don't know. 697 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:37,559 I know. 698 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:38,559 Yeah. 699 00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:39,559 I don't know. 700 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:40,780 I don't know. 701 00:35:40,780 --> 00:35:41,780 Yeah. 702 00:35:41,780 --> 00:35:42,780 I don't know. 703 00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:43,780 So, you guys had a fire department. 704 00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:44,780 It says contents. 705 00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:45,780 That's not the trucks? 706 00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:46,780 That's not the trucks? 707 00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:47,780 It's not the trucks, and it's nothing on the trucks. 708 00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:48,780 How does the trucks be insured for the... 709 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:49,780 The trucks are not paid for the... 710 00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:50,780 Oh, no, it's separately insured. 711 00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:51,780 Okay. 712 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:52,780 Yeah. 713 00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:54,619 Yeah. 714 00:35:54,619 --> 00:35:55,619 So compactor, $85. 715 00:35:55,619 --> 00:35:56,619 Who knows? 716 00:35:56,619 --> 00:35:57,619 Thomas? 717 00:35:57,619 --> 00:35:58,619 What about all the stuff that's in the trucks? 718 00:35:58,619 --> 00:35:59,619 What covers all that? 719 00:35:59,619 --> 00:36:03,119 It's called inland marine coverage. 720 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:04,119 It's part of... 721 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,119 It's considered part of the truck. 722 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,670 But it does have coverage on it. 723 00:36:06,670 --> 00:36:06,869 In case... 724 00:36:06,869 --> 00:36:15,980 Whether it's hoses or fittings or whatever, if it's lost in an accident, it's covered. 725 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:21,139 Well, I would say the fire department costs more than the highway department does for 726 00:36:21,139 --> 00:36:23,360 condoms, by far. 727 00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,440 Yeah, what did he say it was like 20 grand? 728 00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:33,809 For the turnout suit and the breathing? 729 00:36:33,809 --> 00:36:34,789 Oh, cost. 730 00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:35,269 Yeah. 731 00:36:35,530 --> 00:36:37,639 Breathing, turnout gear. 732 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:41,599 Turnout gear probably is, you know, is part of the content. 733 00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:54,860 It costs ballpark, from scratch, $5,000 in turnout gear for a new man, without including 734 00:36:54,860 --> 00:37:04,059 an air pack, which is another $2,000, if you were adding into the number of people we have. 735 00:37:04,420 --> 00:37:06,860 That's not our problem, recently. 736 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,269 Okay, so the town garage, Property Valley, $5,000. 737 00:37:14,289 --> 00:37:26,210 That's a lot for, that's what I'm saying, I'm looking at that. 738 00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:39,800 Yeah, but that's the cost, like, if something were to happen, you need to replace it, so 739 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,519 that's the cost to replace it. 740 00:37:41,659 --> 00:37:43,019 Guaranteed replacement cost. 741 00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:46,079 So, what is it, a three or four bay garage? 742 00:37:46,179 --> 00:37:46,400 Yeah. 743 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,579 I think it's going to be way more than that. 744 00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:51,610 What do they have for contents? 745 00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:53,090 $73,000. 746 00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:53,869 With the concrete? 747 00:37:54,329 --> 00:37:55,070 Yeah, concrete. 748 00:37:55,289 --> 00:37:55,889 That's a bunch of money. 749 00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:56,369 Yeah. 750 00:37:56,449 --> 00:37:57,530 Without the vehicles in there. 751 00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:59,389 I'll let you know. 752 00:37:59,590 --> 00:38:02,710 David can judge, but $35,000 might be more than... 753 00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:03,130 For contents? 754 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:03,710 Yeah. 755 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:04,289 That would be more than that. 756 00:38:04,289 --> 00:38:05,050 You've got another one? 757 00:38:05,429 --> 00:38:06,510 Why did we change that? 758 00:38:06,690 --> 00:38:08,230 Did we change it a couple years ago? 759 00:38:08,289 --> 00:38:09,210 I didn't bring my paper with me. 760 00:38:09,210 --> 00:38:13,829 They may have automatically changed it, or they may have taken it as a percentage of 761 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:14,230 They did. 762 00:38:14,369 --> 00:38:15,170 They did something. 763 00:38:15,309 --> 00:38:16,849 They did something there, yes. 764 00:38:16,949 --> 00:38:17,909 I was just reading it. 765 00:38:18,010 --> 00:38:19,150 They upped the... 766 00:38:19,150 --> 00:38:22,510 We want more of your money, so here. 767 00:38:22,510 --> 00:38:22,690 Yeah. 768 00:38:23,090 --> 00:38:24,250 We increased it because... 769 00:38:24,250 --> 00:38:27,510 Yeah, so I'll get a percentage of whatever they probably write it for, right? 770 00:38:27,570 --> 00:38:27,630 So they want... 771 00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:30,389 So they want it to be as high as possible, like, within... 772 00:38:30,389 --> 00:38:30,750 Oh, yeah. 773 00:38:31,389 --> 00:38:31,929 That's their job. 774 00:38:31,929 --> 00:38:36,929 There's an assumption that your building is like everybody else's building, even if 775 00:38:36,929 --> 00:38:41,659 we know that we don't have that kind of content in the town garage. 776 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,179 And the dog kennel, property value of $5,000. 777 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:52,699 Guaranteed replacement. 778 00:38:53,619 --> 00:38:54,280 Is it a seven? 779 00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:57,400 There's one that you have. 780 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:04,119 No, it's guaranteed for whatever it currently costs to replace it, regardless of... 781 00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,780 If you bought it for $2,000, and it now costs $5,000... 782 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:08,460 That's what they're going to... 783 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,840 You're paying a premium... 784 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,719 No, I understand, but what we're saying, the property value is at $5,000. 785 00:39:14,059 --> 00:39:15,599 That's what we're telling the insurance company. 786 00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,820 If it comes in at $10,000, they're not going to give us $10,000 to replace it. 787 00:39:20,179 --> 00:39:22,579 They're going to give you an equivalent building, period. 788 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:24,219 To $5,000? 789 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,699 No. 790 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,400 I think... 791 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,800 I don't know. 792 00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:30,260 It says something in there that it's... 793 00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:30,900 I think so. 794 00:39:31,019 --> 00:39:32,920 Take some off the town garage, man. 795 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,380 I just had this conversation with the insurance company. 796 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,719 I had a couple of outposts. 797 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,079 It's going to happen to the dollar cage, so the dollar's going to chew funds or something. 798 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:46,539 If you look in some of the detail, you'll see that they have two or three different categories of coverage. 799 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,420 And if it says exact replacement, it means they're going to replace it. 800 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:52,199 Guaranteed replacement cost. 801 00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:54,360 So why would you put a number there, guys? 802 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,079 It's probably low. 803 00:39:57,380 --> 00:40:00,239 If this guy heated it, it's got a five degrees low on it. 804 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,599 In regard to the building value shown on the property schedule, 805 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,239 where the cost to repair... 806 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,420 Replace the structure is no more than $4,500. 807 00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:10,699 $4,500? 808 00:40:11,179 --> 00:40:11,699 So... 809 00:40:11,699 --> 00:40:12,199 Read that. 810 00:40:13,210 --> 00:40:18,530 The replacement cost, without regard to the building value limit shown on the property schedule, 811 00:40:18,909 --> 00:40:23,050 where the cost to repair or replace the structure is no more than $4,500. 812 00:40:23,710 --> 00:40:28,750 But when it's more, where the cost to repair or replace the structure exceeds... 813 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:30,480 Oh, not $4,500. 814 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:32,639 $4,500, though. 815 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:33,460 I thought... 816 00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:33,820 $4,500. 817 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,699 I thought that's what we read first. 818 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,179 It was $4,500 in all. 819 00:40:37,179 --> 00:40:37,679 Mm-hmm. 820 00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:39,679 $4,500,000. 821 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,289 They're going to replace it. 822 00:40:42,289 --> 00:40:44,289 Regardless of the building that we have. 823 00:40:44,289 --> 00:40:46,289 So it doesn't matter what we're putting in for numbers. 824 00:40:46,289 --> 00:40:48,289 They're going to replace it at this year. 825 00:40:48,289 --> 00:40:50,289 Something told in... 826 00:40:50,289 --> 00:40:52,289 There just needs to be something in the box. 827 00:40:52,289 --> 00:40:54,289 Guaranteed replacement cost. 828 00:40:54,289 --> 00:40:56,289 Guaranteed, guaranteed, guaranteed. 829 00:40:56,289 --> 00:40:58,289 They're charging us for $4.5 million. 830 00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:00,289 It used to be ridiculous. 831 00:41:00,289 --> 00:41:02,289 That's covering everything. 832 00:41:02,289 --> 00:41:06,289 And if we said that if we add all this up, it comes out to be $2.5 million... 833 00:41:06,449 --> 00:41:08,449 Is that going to be the end of the deal? 834 00:41:08,449 --> 00:41:08,949 No. 835 00:41:08,949 --> 00:41:09,449 Yeah. 836 00:41:09,449 --> 00:41:13,449 That's what you got to look at and say, these numbers, are they real? 837 00:41:13,449 --> 00:41:18,550 If they're not, it doesn't matter as long as we don't go over that $4.5 million. 838 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:26,440 If we lost our 2019 Freightliner at the firehouse and they had to replace it... 839 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,440 Three cars in that. 840 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,760 Yeah. 841 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,800 That's what it cost. 842 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,800 Right. 843 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:38,679 But they average it out of all the other towns in the state. 844 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:40,679 Now, the other sheet attached... 845 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:45,920 to it was the insurance renewal schedule for the equipment. 846 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,920 Yep. 847 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:55,400 So you sent that to Paul, too, and cash value. 848 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,519 It just seems like if we're way under... 849 00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:07,000 If we're looking at the numbers, Sam, we're pretty close to one. 850 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,159 I don't know if we are. 851 00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:10,159 I would look into... 852 00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:12,159 Do you want to make sense out of the insurance company? 853 00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:13,159 What does he have to do with cash? 854 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:17,159 Well, I go through a lot of insurance companies down the shot. 855 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,159 I can show you something that'll beat this town on insurance. 856 00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:21,159 Okay. 857 00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:27,639 On the Freightliner, it'd be actual cost minus replacement. 858 00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:28,639 Right? 859 00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:29,639 Is that what you said? 860 00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:30,639 Less depreciation. 861 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:38,260 Less depreciation. 862 00:42:38,260 --> 00:42:39,260 So I... 863 00:42:39,260 --> 00:42:40,260 What happens with your normal car insurance? 864 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:41,260 Well, the cost new for the Freightliner was $140. 865 00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:42,260 Except homes that are a little bit... 866 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:43,260 All right. 867 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:44,260 Can you change that and go back to them? 868 00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:45,900 The actual cost of the 2019 Freightliner was $140. 869 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:46,900 They've got it down $90. 870 00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:47,900 I don't think it's going to make a whole lot of difference, but... 871 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:48,900 I'm going to go back to them. 872 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:49,900 I'm going to go back to them. 873 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:50,900 I'm going to go back to them. 874 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:51,900 I'm going to go back to them. 875 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:52,900 I'm going to go back to them. 876 00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:53,900 I'm going to go back to them. 877 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:54,900 I'm going to go back to them. 878 00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:55,900 I'm going to go back to them. 879 00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:56,900 And they've got it down $90. 880 00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,820 I don't think it's going to make a whole lot of difference, but... 881 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:03,960 I wonder, like one with just the cab and chassis before the... 882 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,170 I don't know. 883 00:43:05,170 --> 00:43:06,690 Rest of the stuff. 884 00:43:06,690 --> 00:43:08,750 So, up that to $140. 885 00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:10,030 Well, ask them, Lou. 886 00:43:10,030 --> 00:43:11,050 We paid $140 for the... 887 00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:12,050 What's in the schedule here? 888 00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:13,050 ...for the Freightliner? 889 00:43:13,050 --> 00:43:14,050 $90. 890 00:43:14,050 --> 00:43:16,170 Okay. 891 00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:17,170 No, that's ours, not your... 892 00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:18,170 No, no. 893 00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:19,170 I realize it. 894 00:43:19,170 --> 00:43:20,170 Okay. 895 00:43:20,170 --> 00:43:22,170 But they're going to depreciate it anyway. 896 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:23,170 They will. 897 00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:24,360 Yeah. 898 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,360 But I don't want them to depreciate it from $90. 899 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,360 Because? 900 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,460 should be depreciated from 140. 901 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,639 Well, it's not. 902 00:43:29,739 --> 00:43:38,650 It's probably depreciating your payments to the insurance. 903 00:43:46,219 --> 00:43:49,380 I think they're maybe looking at what we borrow 904 00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:54,889 and not the equipment fund. 905 00:43:56,829 --> 00:44:00,019 Because we had 58,000 saved, and that's kind of the difference. 906 00:44:00,340 --> 00:44:03,630 But 58,000 and 140, maybe that's why they got the 90. 907 00:44:04,489 --> 00:44:10,690 Just mention it to them that when we bought this deal, it was 140. 908 00:44:11,469 --> 00:44:12,949 It may not do anything. 909 00:44:12,949 --> 00:44:15,780 It's all an online portal. 910 00:44:15,980 --> 00:44:18,119 I could probably just go in and fix the number. 911 00:44:18,139 --> 00:44:19,079 Just put the value in. 912 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:22,360 We're good with everything else? 913 00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:24,699 Is there one insurance company you could use 914 00:44:24,699 --> 00:44:26,360 where maybe you could get a better price? 915 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,139 Over the years, John, it hasn't paid 916 00:44:31,139 --> 00:44:33,280 because beyond the fact that they're competitive 917 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,420 and they're spreading the risk through the whole state 918 00:44:36,420 --> 00:44:38,659 with every town that belongs to it, 919 00:44:39,179 --> 00:44:42,280 we usually wind up with a dividend from them. 920 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,340 It looks back three years, 921 00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:47,219 depending on what the company does. 922 00:44:47,219 --> 00:44:49,119 Depending on what their experience is statewide. 923 00:44:49,989 --> 00:44:54,190 But we usually get 15,000, 20,000-odd dividend money. 924 00:44:54,289 --> 00:44:55,329 I don't know what it was lately. 925 00:44:56,369 --> 00:44:57,789 What's the whole bill look like? 926 00:44:58,099 --> 00:44:59,340 It's really pretty cheap. 927 00:45:00,449 --> 00:45:01,250 That's what I mean. 928 00:45:01,449 --> 00:45:04,369 I mean, we used to pay flat rate. 929 00:45:04,369 --> 00:45:06,289 I'm looking at it, and I just see that crazy number somewhere. 930 00:45:06,469 --> 00:45:07,789 I'm assuming it's an insurance bill. 931 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:16,000 You think so, but it's not just... 932 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,199 I can't really see it. 933 00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:17,820 It was ridiculous. 934 00:45:18,019 --> 00:45:20,360 Fifteen years ago, we used to pay them a flat rate 935 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,619 of $600 a year per truck. 936 00:45:22,619 --> 00:45:25,440 For replacement costs. 937 00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,019 No matter what kind of truck, 938 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,119 whether it was one year old or ten years old. 939 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,460 $600 a year. 940 00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:35,900 And I don't know how it's adjusted and changed since then. 941 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,699 But it's that kind of logic that they put together. 942 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:44,090 That's why it doesn't pay. 943 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:45,690 You can't go out. 944 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:50,119 Eight or nine years ago, we once asked for a competitive bid. 945 00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:56,130 That's what I was looking for. 946 00:45:56,130 --> 00:46:14,340 $14,000 a year. 947 00:46:30,739 --> 00:46:31,400 That's everything. 948 00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:33,400 We went into one, and we never split it out 949 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,280 because it was too crazy to split out. 950 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,360 In fact, buried in that liability is your errors and omissions. 951 00:46:39,659 --> 00:46:40,179 Pop coverage. 952 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,719 Bonding, too. 953 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:48,769 Anything else, Lori? 954 00:46:49,250 --> 00:47:00,719 We had a contractor come in and take a look at the heater, cooler. 955 00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:03,480 It's not working right at all. 956 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:04,699 It hasn't worked in a while. 957 00:47:04,860 --> 00:47:07,059 It was working spotty, and then it just stopped. 958 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:07,519 I was wondering. 959 00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,139 I tried messing with it last meeting, 960 00:47:10,139 --> 00:47:11,519 and I was like, oh, I don't know. 961 00:47:11,699 --> 00:47:12,559 I'll figure it out. 962 00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:14,039 It must not have been working. 963 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,840 Yeah, and it's starting to get colder out, 964 00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:19,360 so we need to deal with it. 965 00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:27,059 I was given a price of $6,500 to put in a new air conditioner slash heat pump. 966 00:47:28,059 --> 00:47:34,789 It'll have a wall sleeve, a wireless wall, thermostat, $6,500, 967 00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:41,389 with disposal by owner and electrical wiring not included if needed. 968 00:47:41,849 --> 00:47:42,969 Same kind of thing? 969 00:47:45,289 --> 00:47:47,690 One of those units that sits outside. 970 00:47:49,210 --> 00:47:49,550 I don't know. 971 00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:51,030 I think the mini splits you can probably read out. 972 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:51,690 I don't know what that is. 973 00:47:52,909 --> 00:47:55,489 Well, if they're talking about a heat pump, it sounds like. 974 00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:59,210 If it's a heat pump, it's got a compressor on it. 975 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:04,849 So if it doesn't, if it's not like this, and I'm sure it won't be in the same spot, 976 00:48:04,989 --> 00:48:09,469 we need a carpenter or somebody to come to seal the hole. 977 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,650 Just pile of snow there. 978 00:48:14,650 --> 00:48:15,210 Right. 979 00:48:15,550 --> 00:48:22,349 If it's a carpenter, there's no way it does it off. 980 00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:23,150 No, no. 981 00:48:23,929 --> 00:48:29,940 Well, the heater, the people that Dave's son works for, that plumbing guy. 982 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:31,719 Works for that plumbing guy. 983 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:32,420 Oh, that guy. 984 00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:33,280 That guy. 985 00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:34,480 They do it all. 986 00:48:34,699 --> 00:48:35,239 I know him. 987 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:36,960 You don't know the kind of guys like that? 988 00:48:37,039 --> 00:48:38,179 I heard they run the whole town. 989 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,239 I know those old guys. 990 00:48:39,460 --> 00:48:40,480 You've known them for a long time. 991 00:48:40,739 --> 00:48:41,860 Yeah, for a long time, I know them. 992 00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:42,320 You know that guy. 993 00:48:42,699 --> 00:48:44,679 48 years laying pipe, right? 994 00:48:45,260 --> 00:48:45,960 Something like that. 995 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,059 Laying pipe, 48 years. 996 00:48:47,059 --> 00:48:49,960 Oh, 1948 is laying pipe or 1948. 997 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,440 Laying pipe. 998 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:51,019 Yeah. 999 00:48:51,019 --> 00:48:51,260 Yeah. 1000 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,019 God, I don't even know their logo. 1001 00:48:54,380 --> 00:48:55,380 I don't even know their logo. 1002 00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:56,380 Yeah. 1003 00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:57,380 Um, that's a... 1004 00:48:57,380 --> 00:48:58,380 I don't even... 1005 00:48:58,380 --> 00:48:59,789 I don't even... 1006 00:48:59,789 --> 00:49:00,789 Jack. 1007 00:49:00,789 --> 00:49:02,210 You're the expert. 1008 00:49:02,210 --> 00:49:03,210 Uh, I think it's... 1009 00:49:03,210 --> 00:49:06,030 Mini-split. 1010 00:49:06,030 --> 00:49:09,079 P-T-A-C-A-C... 1011 00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:10,079 You have... 1012 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,460 Close. 1013 00:49:12,460 --> 00:49:33,840 Close. 1014 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:47,480 Those are mini-splits. 1015 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,539 Most of those mini-splits will carry two heads. 1016 00:49:53,539 --> 00:49:56,550 Yeah. 1017 00:49:56,550 --> 00:49:57,550 I didn't like you put a second one in the office. 1018 00:49:57,550 --> 00:49:58,550 Yeah. 1019 00:49:58,550 --> 00:49:59,550 One mini-split with two heads. 1020 00:49:59,550 --> 00:50:03,019 I'll get a quote on that because it's probably not going to be much. 1021 00:50:03,019 --> 00:50:04,019 Because I... 1022 00:50:04,019 --> 00:50:06,869 Yeah. 1023 00:50:06,869 --> 00:50:09,179 Yeah. 1024 00:50:09,179 --> 00:50:10,179 Yeah. 1025 00:50:10,179 --> 00:50:11,179 Yeah. 1026 00:50:11,179 --> 00:50:15,099 Yeah. 1027 00:50:15,099 --> 00:50:16,130 Yeah. 1028 00:50:16,130 --> 00:50:17,130 Yeah. 1029 00:50:17,130 --> 00:50:18,130 Yeah. 1030 00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:19,579 Yeah. 1031 00:50:19,579 --> 00:50:20,579 Yeah. 1032 00:50:20,579 --> 00:50:21,579 Yeah. 1033 00:50:21,579 --> 00:50:23,090 Yeah. 1034 00:50:23,090 --> 00:50:25,110 Yeah. 1035 00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:26,110 Yeah. 1036 00:50:26,110 --> 00:50:27,110 Yeah. 1037 00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:28,110 Yeah. 1038 00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:29,110 Yeah. 1039 00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:30,110 Yeah. 1040 00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:31,110 Yeah. 1041 00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:32,139 Yeah. 1042 00:50:32,139 --> 00:50:33,139 Yeah. 1043 00:50:33,139 --> 00:50:34,139 Yeah. 1044 00:50:34,139 --> 00:50:35,139 Yeah. 1045 00:50:35,139 --> 00:50:36,139 Yeah. 1046 00:50:36,139 --> 00:50:37,139 Yeah. 1047 00:50:37,139 --> 00:50:38,139 Yeah. 1048 00:50:38,139 --> 00:50:39,139 Yeah. 1049 00:50:39,139 --> 00:50:40,139 Yeah. 1050 00:50:40,139 --> 00:50:41,139 Well, why don't you ask them who had the, uh, kind of job for us? 1051 00:50:41,139 --> 00:50:42,139 I mean, we had talked to him about that. 1052 00:50:42,139 --> 00:50:43,139 But, you know, you got all the windows, all the wall would have to be changed. 1053 00:50:43,139 --> 00:50:44,139 It would be not just buying... 1054 00:50:44,139 --> 00:50:45,139 Oh, to put the head in, yeah. 1055 00:50:45,139 --> 00:50:46,139 Not just buying the mini-split thing, but redoing the wall. 1056 00:50:46,139 --> 00:50:47,139 I'd like to wait for the school to come and replace those windows. 1057 00:50:47,139 --> 00:50:48,139 That would be the thing that I'd like to do. 1058 00:50:48,139 --> 00:50:49,139 Well, why don't we... 1059 00:50:49,139 --> 00:50:50,139 I mean, it's November now. 1060 00:50:51,139 --> 00:50:56,800 footage is on that that it covers but with these ceilings with a fan turned on 1061 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:06,860 this isn't really that big of a room for that one I think it's really well sized it yeah yeah I mean it's probably oversized yeah 1062 00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:14,460 those things are really they've come a long way I mean if you want to go out and get quilts you can 1063 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:23,739 it doesn't matter to me I think for $6,500 and it's November I'd put it in and we don't have to go out for quilts anyway yeah I mean 1064 00:51:23,739 --> 00:51:29,920 question if you can get an electrician and a carpenter to come and do it right well they do it 1065 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:42,170 all no they don't do the other way around oh no which is see this doesn't this one just plug in period this one just 1066 00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:57,050 plugs in so well this guy very casually says it's a heat pump it looks like a mini split it looks like a similar unit like this yeah if you like it says a mona and it gives you a number I mean that's what it looks that's a picture of it it looks very similar 1067 00:51:57,050 --> 00:52:29,920 similar and it gives you a price for what you got in the box outside I don't know is there a box outside I mean there is in the wall yeah there's something outside I don't make them smaller and smaller I don't think it really sticks out I don't have a compressor yeah but it might be built into the unit on the outside yeah I just was wondering if that's where the footage would have covered 15,000 BTUs I don't know what 1068 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,260 15,000 BTUs I don't know what 15,000 BTUs I don't know what 1069 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,590 it's like a square footer but yeah it's not a mini split 1070 00:52:34,590 --> 00:52:46,489 replace the current unit pump will replace the current unit yeah they're two thousand dollars he's got a gums that's what the unit is 1071 00:52:46,489 --> 00:53:26,260 two thousand well that for that one I don't know what he's getting for BTU I'm not sure what the yeah I don't know if that's exactly the same size no 1072 00:53:26,260 --> 00:53:42,130 575 square feet it's 575 with a say a nine-foot ceiling yeah yeah this 575 square feet 1073 00:53:42,130 --> 00:53:42,969 ceiling yeah yeah this 575 square feet 1074 00:53:42,969 --> 00:53:45,730 ceiling yeah yeah this 575 square feet that went up thank you that when I looked 1075 00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:51,090 up this one's is a real covering right for 50 to 575 with the can't read on your 1076 00:53:51,090 --> 00:54:03,440 square foot here in the office yeah so what if you're gonna replace it let's be 1077 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,579 serious about it do you want to keep it the same or do 1078 00:54:06,579 --> 00:54:13,070 you want to maybe do you guys suggested to do this flip and have two heads would 1079 00:54:13,070 --> 00:54:18,190 that be a better option and then what would that cost versus this row right I 1080 00:54:18,190 --> 00:54:18,789 get the right prices, do you want to get the price of a division or two heads? 1081 00:54:18,789 --> 00:54:18,909 Do you want to get the price of a division or two heads? 1082 00:54:18,909 --> 00:54:20,070 Yeah, you could do that. 1083 00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:21,590 You just got to wonder when you can do it. 1084 00:54:21,710 --> 00:54:22,429 That's the big thing. 1085 00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:27,239 You know, if he says, yeah, getting those mini splits is a better deal 1086 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,039 and putting two heads in, it'll do a better job. 1087 00:54:32,250 --> 00:54:34,210 Well, I can't do it for next year. 1088 00:54:34,409 --> 00:54:37,710 Will you be able to regulate each head separately? 1089 00:54:38,050 --> 00:54:38,349 Yep. 1090 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:42,300 So it can have a separate room or a condition. 1091 00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:47,239 I think for the same price, I mean, I've been pricing these and everything else 1092 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,320 and for 5,500 square feet plus per room in there, 1093 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,559 that's another 100 square feet or maybe 150. 1094 00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,199 I would seriously get a quote on them. 1095 00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,550 I mean, because I might not be able to call. 1096 00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:04,590 Let's call and say, hey. 1097 00:55:04,949 --> 00:55:09,250 Can we at least get this one done since it's stolen here from the Lister's area 1098 00:55:09,250 --> 00:55:11,170 and still work on that one separate? 1099 00:55:11,409 --> 00:55:12,650 Or are you saying do it all together? 1100 00:55:12,650 --> 00:55:15,349 Well, then we wouldn't have that system that Jim's talking about. 1101 00:55:15,429 --> 00:55:17,190 You might be able to do it all at the same time. 1102 00:55:17,329 --> 00:55:18,269 I don't think there'd be a big. 1103 00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:23,579 Putting the heads on is screwing up. 1104 00:55:23,579 --> 00:55:25,320 But that's not what he's, he's not cool. 1105 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,239 I mean, he's cool in that unit right there. 1106 00:55:27,420 --> 00:55:27,820 Right. 1107 00:55:28,139 --> 00:55:28,360 Okay. 1108 00:55:29,099 --> 00:55:32,500 Which is probably obsolete nowadays. 1109 00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:33,679 I've got heat up there. 1110 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,800 School's got heat. 1111 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,119 This is how it's comfortable. 1112 00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:37,019 This is really not. 1113 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:37,420 Right. 1114 00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:38,159 This has got heat. 1115 00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:39,199 It's not cold. 1116 00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:40,280 It doesn't have air conditioning. 1117 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:41,579 No. 1118 00:55:41,820 --> 00:55:42,260 No air. 1119 00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:44,400 The school's paying for the heat. 1120 00:55:44,619 --> 00:55:47,480 But this air would take air out there. 1121 00:55:47,619 --> 00:55:49,300 Maybe you can put electric heat. 1122 00:55:49,699 --> 00:55:51,179 You sit there a lot. 1123 00:55:51,380 --> 00:55:52,940 Doesn't that irritate you? 1124 00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:53,599 I sit. 1125 00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:54,840 You need to put heat up. 1126 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,619 I warm your seat on. 1127 00:55:57,340 --> 00:55:58,239 Use their buckets. 1128 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:00,480 Keep the door open while they're there. 1129 00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:02,780 Right. 1130 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,820 We'll then run another line. 1131 00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:07,300 Ask him what his time frame is 1132 00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:09,880 and then get a price for the other one too 1133 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,460 and see when he can do it. 1134 00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:13,949 How long is it? 1135 00:56:14,969 --> 00:56:15,889 What did he say? 1136 00:56:16,210 --> 00:56:17,489 When did he come to do that one? 1137 00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:18,289 He didn't say. 1138 00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:20,280 That's what I got. 1139 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,440 He emailed. 1140 00:56:21,519 --> 00:56:22,019 He emailed it. 1141 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:27,389 Well, we can always ask the questions. 1142 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,329 But the problem is. 1143 00:56:30,329 --> 00:56:33,260 I know that everybody's like a month out. 1144 00:56:33,260 --> 00:56:34,840 And how soon can he deliver it? 1145 00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:35,360 Right. 1146 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,880 We wait two weeks to make another decision, 1147 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,500 get an answer. 1148 00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:57,340 What if we made a motion to approve it 1149 00:56:57,340 --> 00:57:00,539 if the contingency is under a certain dollar amount? 1150 00:57:02,969 --> 00:57:03,690 You mean the two? 1151 00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:04,449 Yeah. 1152 00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:12,780 If it's $1,000 more or something to get the split unit. 1153 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:13,519 Well, what do we do? 1154 00:57:13,539 --> 00:57:17,260 I mean, if they haven't put a mini-split out there, 1155 00:57:17,260 --> 00:57:18,860 they've got heat out there already. 1156 00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:21,659 Yeah, I think those mini-splits just run the tube outside 1157 00:57:21,659 --> 00:57:23,500 of the building and the refrigerator. 1158 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:24,719 And the air from this works fine. 1159 00:57:25,059 --> 00:57:27,159 The cool air in the summer works fine here. 1160 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,300 The electrician from the other side. 1161 00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,239 I'd say just go with this. 1162 00:57:37,469 --> 00:57:40,269 It's a plug-in to 20, right behind John. 1163 00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:41,469 Yeah, it just plugs in. 1164 00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:43,530 Yeah, but the new one that he can replace on with it, 1165 00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:45,150 probably going to be able to plug right into that. 1166 00:57:45,150 --> 00:57:45,550 Right. 1167 00:57:45,550 --> 00:57:46,570 That's a hotel unit. 1168 00:57:46,570 --> 00:57:48,550 The other thing you're talking about is going to need 1169 00:57:48,550 --> 00:57:49,650 the electrician to come. 1170 00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:53,469 The only thing that could change is the plug, other than that. 1171 00:57:54,250 --> 00:57:55,150 Oh, look, it works. 1172 00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:55,769 We don't need it. 1173 00:57:55,769 --> 00:57:59,030 If you're coming up with monies, it's going to be . 1174 00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:59,769 I have no idea. 1175 00:57:59,769 --> 00:58:02,590 It's supposed to come on. 1176 00:58:02,590 --> 00:58:03,190 Right, right. 1177 00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:05,889 So then we've got to call the electrician to get a price for that. 1178 00:58:05,889 --> 00:58:07,210 I don't know that that's what this is. 1179 00:58:07,210 --> 00:58:08,829 It's probably an error code. 1180 00:58:08,829 --> 00:58:09,429 Not this year. 1181 00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:11,070 No, we're going to have it. 1182 00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:13,150 He's probably saying something's screwed up. 1183 00:58:13,150 --> 00:58:13,710 It's dead. 1184 00:58:15,929 --> 00:58:17,309 The buttons don't work either. 1185 00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:18,769 They just hit off. 1186 00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:20,429 All I know is the . . . 1187 00:58:20,429 --> 00:58:20,730 . . . 1188 00:58:20,730 --> 00:58:23,170 The one company . . . I got that information at home. 1189 00:58:23,170 --> 00:58:25,809 The one company I had, they do it all. 1190 00:58:25,809 --> 00:58:27,769 They do the whole thing, but . . . 1191 00:58:27,769 --> 00:58:30,650 I don't know what it is. 1192 00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:31,610 Is there . . . 1193 00:58:31,610 --> 00:58:33,329 20 years, 25 years. 1194 00:58:33,329 --> 00:58:34,489 What's that? 1195 00:58:34,489 --> 00:58:35,690 Do they have a license to electric? 1196 00:58:35,690 --> 00:58:37,389 What's that, Dave? 1197 00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:39,190 That thing's been in there, what, 20, 25 years? 1198 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:41,690 Since this was built in 90 . . . 1199 00:58:41,690 --> 00:58:43,329 It's not the most efficient. 1200 00:58:43,329 --> 00:58:43,829 No. 1201 00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:45,469 Top of the line thing, buddy. 1202 00:58:45,469 --> 00:58:47,070 No, 2006. 1203 00:58:47,070 --> 00:58:51,619 You know, the mini splits I like because you would have air conditioning in there, but . . . 1204 00:58:51,619 --> 00:58:52,119 Should we get . . . 1205 00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:53,420 I mean . . . 1206 00:58:53,420 --> 00:58:59,659 We're not going to get an electrician to quote it, a carpenter to quote it, and a plumber to quote it by next week. 1207 00:58:59,659 --> 00:59:00,159 No. 1208 00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:00,659 No. 1209 00:59:00,659 --> 00:59:01,159 No. 1210 00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:04,460 I think you're going to put it in next week either. 1211 00:59:04,460 --> 00:59:08,800 Yeah, because they might be on other jobs. 1212 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,360 I'm sure they've got to order it. 1213 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,659 Right now, we have no heat, all right? 1214 00:59:12,659 --> 00:59:16,599 We have no heat, so it starts getting cold, we have no heat. 1215 00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:21,340 We've got to call someone in overnight thing to get a heat in there. 1216 00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:22,440 It's going to cost even more. 1217 00:59:22,539 --> 01:00:11,000 I mean, I don't mind trying to get a bed, but if you can get it in there . . . 1218 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:20,539 But Gordon . . . 1219 01:00:20,539 --> 01:00:21,539 Same. 1220 01:00:21,539 --> 01:01:08,300 Make a decision. 1221 01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:09,550 All right. 1222 01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:11,550 Just take your remote and just . . . 1223 01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:12,550 Oh, they don't have one. 1224 01:01:12,550 --> 01:01:13,550 That's right. 1225 01:01:13,550 --> 01:01:16,219 We'll open the door and all that. 1226 01:01:16,219 --> 01:01:23,969 Um, for out there, what they do . . . 1227 01:01:23,969 --> 01:01:27,219 I don't want to hear you for anything for the rest of the year. 1228 01:01:27,219 --> 01:01:28,219 I want a new rug out there. 1229 01:01:28,219 --> 01:01:30,920 That's what I want. 1230 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,320 I think the time of year we have to do this. 1231 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,440 I agree. 1232 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:43,369 I think we have a point if we wait. 1233 01:01:43,369 --> 01:01:48,110 At least . . . 1234 01:01:48,110 --> 01:01:49,110 And she does have . . . 1235 01:01:49,110 --> 01:01:50,110 She does have a little electric heater space here that I don't think they should 1236 01:01:50,110 --> 01:01:51,110 be on in here. 1237 01:01:51,110 --> 01:01:52,110 They leave them . . . 1238 01:01:52,110 --> 01:01:53,110 They're a fire hazard, right? 1239 01:01:53,110 --> 01:01:54,110 They leave them on at night or who knows what. 1240 01:01:54,110 --> 01:01:55,110 Paper fall against them or something. 1241 01:01:55,110 --> 01:01:56,110 Yeah, we don't have insurance. 1242 01:01:56,110 --> 01:01:57,110 I know . . . 1243 01:01:57,110 --> 01:01:58,110 Tell him to do it. 1244 01:01:58,110 --> 01:01:59,110 Yeah. 1245 01:01:59,110 --> 01:02:00,110 He's right here to tell him. 1246 01:02:00,110 --> 01:02:01,659 I'm going to make a motion that we . . . 1247 01:02:01,659 --> 01:02:02,659 I'll second it. 1248 01:02:02,659 --> 01:02:03,659 John, anything? 1249 01:02:03,659 --> 01:02:04,659 Or . . . 1250 01:02:04,659 --> 01:02:06,679 I'm for it, but I wanted to try to . . . I would try . . . 1251 01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:07,679 Yeah. 1252 01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:09,320 . . . 1253 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,380 . . . 1254 01:02:11,380 --> 01:02:12,380 . . . 1255 01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:13,380 . . . . 1256 01:02:13,380 --> 01:02:14,380 . . . . 1257 01:02:14,380 --> 01:02:15,380 . . . . 1258 01:02:15,380 --> 01:02:18,260 . . . . 1259 01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:21,179 . . . . 1260 01:02:21,179 --> 01:02:22,179 . . . . 1261 01:02:22,179 --> 01:02:23,179 . . . . 1262 01:02:23,179 --> 01:02:24,179 . . . 1263 01:02:24,179 --> 01:02:25,179 . . . 1264 01:02:25,179 --> 01:02:26,179 . . . 1265 01:02:26,179 --> 01:02:27,760 . . . 1266 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,760 . . . 1267 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,760 . . 1268 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,820 I'm for it, but I wanted to try to . . . I would try to get, so it covers 1269 01:02:31,820 --> 01:02:34,460 both rooms, if you could do it with a split unit around the same price. 1270 01:02:34,460 --> 01:02:36,340 I feel it's worth, like, asking that. 1271 01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:37,559 You know, if you . . . 1272 01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:38,559 In the same amount of time. 1273 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:39,559 Yeah, if you could do . . . 1274 01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:40,559 Not the same amount of hours. 1275 01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:41,559 Same show time. 1276 01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:42,559 How about this, Joe. 1277 01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:43,559 Are you able to do a split unit around the same price? 1278 01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:44,559 Okay. 1279 01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:45,559 At least, you know. 1280 01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:46,559 All right. 1281 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:47,559 In the split. 1282 01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:48,559 I feel it's worth asking that. 1283 01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:49,780 For both . . . I would have to have two. 1284 01:02:49,780 --> 01:02:50,780 A split unit? 1285 01:02:50,780 --> 01:02:51,780 So you can do both rooms in one room. 1286 01:02:51,780 --> 01:03:00,840 ask him for both I would have to have two yeah if he needs to understand it 1287 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,760 more he can call I feel like I'm for trying to get you some heat but I feel 1288 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:17,610 it's worth if he wants to call ask him that question stop in and talk to him too I know you all want so if you want to do that you want to amend a 1289 01:03:17,610 --> 01:03:36,940 motion to go no more than a thousand yeah that's true too if it's gonna be 1290 01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:41,119 much different than wouldn't he get the I mean we've got to pay for electric 1291 01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:45,380 wiring but would he get his own electrician 1292 01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:51,559 maybe maybe he's got 1293 01:03:51,699 --> 01:03:58,059 put the just right he'll have to get his own electrician that we have to pay for 1294 01:03:58,059 --> 01:04:05,230 electric wiring if needed not included right not included in the price no 1295 01:04:05,230 --> 01:04:08,170 matter who's gonna do it 1296 01:04:13,230 --> 01:04:17,949 I cut firewood for a living so I mean I'm not gonna I can't give you any 1297 01:04:17,949 --> 01:04:22,429 professional opinion on it but all I know is I was in a hotel 1298 01:04:22,429 --> 01:04:22,550 I was in a hotel I was in a hotel I was in a hotel I was in a hotel I was in a hotel I was in a hotel 1299 01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:29,349 room once and the AC was kaput right made the call and they had similar unit 1300 01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:35,230 and they had one out and in within an hour and you get a scene right now it's 1301 01:04:35,230 --> 01:04:38,530 got its own pig tail on it so you're probably gonna need an electrician to plug it in 1302 01:04:38,530 --> 01:04:46,000 not for that one but for the mini splits you do 1303 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:56,829 I don't have a problem if we can go forward and have you called electricians could be a person 1304 01:04:56,829 --> 01:04:58,920 all the way from the main channel 1305 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:07,730 yeah if there's room yeah the school has certain electricians that they can use 1306 01:05:07,730 --> 01:05:25,519 here we buy a mini-split and add it we just said what would have the problem 1307 01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:40,190 the mini-split would be over the shade yeah it's not a big deal there but 1308 01:05:40,190 --> 01:05:57,869 they're drilling two holes new proof is that something worth in the same 1309 01:05:57,869 --> 01:06:05,599 if that's the case and we can get it done in the same time frame we need it 1310 01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:31,050 before it gets cold in here that's the big thing I don't want to go over a 1311 01:06:31,050 --> 01:06:33,710 certain amount but if we're gonna have an electrician come in here we're gonna 1312 01:06:33,710 --> 01:06:42,920 have to go over now we're looking at close to $10,000 $3,000 this probably 1313 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,800 gonna need any electrical looks like no that one but if we go with the mini-split 1314 01:06:46,940 --> 01:06:52,519 it well that might yeah right that's a question 1315 01:06:52,519 --> 01:06:56,980 maybe a little pull power you know how to put mini-splits in right you've seen them before 1316 01:06:56,980 --> 01:07:05,000 you've got to have the answer is you have to have an electrician to put a mini-split in 1317 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:11,920 220 you're going over a thousand for a room that has part-time use would that even make 1318 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:18,030 sense I mean they are nice 1319 01:07:18,130 --> 01:07:27,639 well you know we're definitely gonna be pushing carpenter carpenter and the 1320 01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:36,179 plumber in the units oh and this one put it in you're gonna hopefully but I would 1321 01:07:36,179 --> 01:07:45,969 say if you're gonna put thousand I always thought the mini-split guys just did the 1322 01:07:45,969 --> 01:07:49,889 whole thing what's that that the mini-split people did the whole thing 1323 01:07:49,889 --> 01:07:57,809 all of the electrical and carpentry that you need I thought where was that oh that's just the way I thought 1324 01:07:58,050 --> 01:08:10,369 there's other people that probably do the whole thing yeah well you can get them right you can get the mini-splits right at home people in stone the problem is you gotta have somebody to charge them you gotta have somebody to bring it free on them and charge them 1325 01:08:10,369 --> 01:08:17,170 oh yeah I'd say the new units are probably gonna last 10 years max anyway you guys will then get them get heat and then 1326 01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:19,810 maybe we'll have the windows replaced out there I'm gonna keep that in mind 1327 01:08:19,810 --> 01:08:27,890 if we just say not to go over a thousand dollars the answer is gonna be no because we're gonna go over a thousand so either way it's gonna get this is gonna get for that 1328 01:08:28,050 --> 01:08:34,649 put it in the Imani thing don't think it's if I wonder but yeah I don't think 1329 01:08:34,649 --> 01:08:46,460 he's gonna go under a thousand for the mini-split so so we've got John's 1330 01:08:46,460 --> 01:09:01,550 amended motion I'll second that and if not call tomorrow tell them to go ahead 1331 01:09:01,550 --> 01:09:10,979 with this in order right if he's not gonna do this thing till December maybe we'll have to talk to you at the next meeting 1332 01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:26,399 I think there's probably four screws in the plug I mean you guys want to get someone else to do it 1333 01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:31,970 we already got one well I'm just saying we didn't ask for a guy 1334 01:09:31,970 --> 01:09:38,390 you give another quote you gotta wait till what another two weeks and then 1335 01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:41,909 that's our problem we should have done this I'm just saying you got the quote 1336 01:09:41,909 --> 01:09:47,949 just call that guy tomorrow and ask him that question and make a decision 1337 01:09:47,949 --> 01:09:50,949 that's what we're doing that's the plan 1338 01:09:51,539 --> 01:10:04,470 all in favor yes okay moving on oh anything else Laurie that you have 1339 01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:13,250 oh business 9-1-1 numbering update we haven't heard anything yet 1340 01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:18,800 no this is a new building the camp we're not sure of yet 1341 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:26,500 what's that oh she said we did you talk to Teresa well that means nothing to me 1342 01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:30,649 I don't see Teresa anymore 1343 01:10:30,649 --> 01:10:31,149 okay 1344 01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:43,380 town sign update I just knew today that they were working on the cement it looked 1345 01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:48,810 like they were digging holes they were actually removing rocks from the earth 1346 01:10:48,810 --> 01:11:00,189 rocks is the signs made ready to rock and roll and new business we need to 1347 01:11:00,189 --> 01:11:04,329 send a thank-you note to the fire department for their Halloween 1348 01:11:04,329 --> 01:11:09,579 participation 1349 01:11:09,579 --> 01:11:32,460 Oh so sally because yeah I asked if she says weeks she says no you can come in 1350 01:11:32,460 --> 01:11:45,340 to it for free it's only just said for me to talk to her what's that yeah okay 1351 01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:49,829 anything else Laurie new business and then we need to go into executive 1352 01:11:49,829 --> 01:12:03,250 session for forever it's almost okay any other new business Tom? 1353 01:12:03,250 --> 01:12:05,760 six months I'm aware. 1354 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,300 okay. 1355 01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:14,060 a motion to go into executive session pending or probable civil litigation or prosecution to which 1356 01:12:14,060 --> 01:12:23,869 the public body is or may not be a party or may be a party check it okay aye okay thank you guys 1357 01:12:23,869 --> 01:12:30,590 you guys don't drill holes in these three oh i see them okay