1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,060 We're reading to the President of the United States of America, 2 00:00:08,539 --> 00:00:15,640 and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:22,579 Welcome to a meeting of the Stanford Select Board. 4 00:00:22,780 --> 00:00:26,219 If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda, 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,519 you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address. 6 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:36,399 You will notice that all our meetings are recorded, and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes. 7 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:41,950 Visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic. 8 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:46,250 Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others. 9 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:48,549 Select board members present are... 10 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:51,729 Mike Dinhong, Nancy Peschica, Doug Wright, John Dunn. 11 00:00:52,450 --> 00:00:56,890 Will there be any adding of items or removing of items from tonight's agenda? 12 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,149 I have additional correspondence. 13 00:00:59,850 --> 00:01:02,049 And I want to add a dog update. 14 00:01:03,909 --> 00:01:07,370 And will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order? 15 00:01:07,390 --> 00:01:10,290 I don't think so. 16 00:01:10,290 --> 00:01:23,480 And our meeting is being recorded tonight for Jeb's YouTube video hearing of visitors. 17 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,549 I just would like to say something. 18 00:01:28,549 --> 00:01:32,549 We attended the all-boards meeting. What was that, last week? 19 00:01:32,549 --> 00:01:37,549 We got to listen to Paul H. here talk about the Volunteer Firemen. 20 00:01:37,549 --> 00:01:40,549 I believe Mike has discussed this too in past meetings. 21 00:01:40,549 --> 00:01:44,549 Sixteen members at the Volunteer Firemen. 22 00:01:44,549 --> 00:01:45,549 Six of us. 23 00:01:45,549 --> 00:01:51,549 Six of which are from out of town, leading ten local firemen. 24 00:01:51,549 --> 00:01:54,549 All, I believe, at the age of, what, 50 and above. 25 00:01:54,549 --> 00:01:58,549 Somewhere Bill could probably chime in and give you more information. 26 00:01:58,549 --> 00:02:00,549 I think the average age is 45. 27 00:02:00,549 --> 00:02:02,549 Yeah, those were the active members. 28 00:02:02,549 --> 00:02:07,900 So, it is important to have, Paul has stated, younger people coming up. 29 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:11,900 I know it's hard getting a high school kid or a college kid involved 30 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:14,900 because they go out to get educated and then they're out on their lives. 31 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,900 And they're not volunteers anymore. 32 00:02:17,900 --> 00:02:21,900 So, I know this goes out to the public YouTube video or whatever it may be. 33 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:26,900 If there's any residents in town or anybody that's close by in town 34 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:29,900 that is interested in becoming a Volunteer Fireman, 35 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:34,900 I would suggest reaching out to Paul, Ethier, or any other active members 36 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:37,900 and see what you can do to get involved if you're interested. 37 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:39,900 Because it's important to keep that program going. 38 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:43,099 Any Monday night at 7, Firehouse. 39 00:02:43,099 --> 00:02:44,099 Thank you, John. 40 00:02:44,099 --> 00:02:50,099 We talked a lot about that from that past meeting and before that. 41 00:02:50,099 --> 00:02:54,099 One of the things I brought up is the residents, 42 00:02:54,099 --> 00:02:57,099 and I'm not saying they're sitting back, 43 00:02:57,099 --> 00:03:01,099 but residents don't realize how important it is. 44 00:03:01,099 --> 00:03:04,099 Not only is it important, of course, by the obvious things, 45 00:03:04,099 --> 00:03:07,099 but if you don't have a Volunteer Fireman in your town 46 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:11,099 and you have to reach out to another town or pay, 47 00:03:11,099 --> 00:03:13,099 I mean, your insurance changes. 48 00:03:14,099 --> 00:03:17,259 And I just went through that with that new property down there. 49 00:03:17,259 --> 00:03:20,259 Because of the rating that the fire department has, 50 00:03:20,259 --> 00:03:22,259 it was difficult to get fire insurance. 51 00:03:22,259 --> 00:03:26,479 If we didn't have one at all, it would be impossible. 52 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:30,479 So, we also have to think about down in the future, 53 00:03:30,479 --> 00:03:32,479 it's going to impact our taxes. 54 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:35,479 I read an article, I was talking with Paul, 55 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:38,479 and I can't remember who wrote it, 56 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:41,479 but it said in the article, he made a statement, he says, 57 00:03:41,479 --> 00:03:42,479 I believe that the last volunteer fireman, 58 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:47,479 has already been born in the country. 59 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:51,430 Think about that. 60 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:53,430 It's about 20 years. 61 00:03:53,430 --> 00:03:55,430 So, if, and that's it. 62 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:58,430 That's how everybody, it's not just Stanford, Vermont, 63 00:03:58,430 --> 00:04:03,430 every person in the, or every volunteer fire department 64 00:04:03,430 --> 00:04:05,430 in the country is going this way. 65 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:08,430 And you're right, the age is, 47 is pretty young, 66 00:04:08,430 --> 00:04:11,430 because I think Adam's now at 57. 67 00:04:11,430 --> 00:04:13,430 So, it's getting tough. 68 00:04:14,659 --> 00:04:19,519 You know, it's a lot harder than it was back in the day. 69 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:21,519 And that's one of the other things, 70 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:23,779 it's very time consuming. 71 00:04:23,779 --> 00:04:26,779 So, hopefully we can get some younger people, 72 00:04:26,779 --> 00:04:27,779 and it is very important. 73 00:04:27,779 --> 00:04:29,860 I'm glad John brought it up. 74 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:32,860 Okay, reading and approval of records and orders. 75 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:34,860 The orders are going around. 76 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:37,860 Regular minutes of September 4th. 77 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:41,180 Can I have a motion to accept them as written? 78 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:43,699 Motion. 79 00:04:43,699 --> 00:04:44,699 Second? 80 00:04:44,699 --> 00:04:45,699 Second. 81 00:04:45,699 --> 00:04:46,699 All in favor? 82 00:04:46,699 --> 00:04:47,699 Aye. 83 00:04:47,699 --> 00:04:48,730 Free. 84 00:04:48,730 --> 00:04:49,730 Second. 85 00:04:49,730 --> 00:06:30,699 Reflight. 86 00:06:30,699 --> 00:06:31,699 Okay. 87 00:06:31,699 --> 00:06:32,699 Highway update. 88 00:06:32,699 --> 00:06:33,699 Give an update, 89 00:06:33,699 --> 00:06:34,959 what I originally asked a couple weeks ago regarding the sidewalk 90 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,699 that was out of my house that I contacted the state, 91 00:06:36,699 --> 00:06:39,699 the state in return contacted Dave, 92 00:06:39,699 --> 00:06:43,699 and then the state said, I can do whatever I want. 93 00:06:43,699 --> 00:06:46,699 They're not going to take responsibility for it. 94 00:06:46,699 --> 00:06:50,759 But I'd have to hire somebody to be out on the road, 95 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:55,759 some like that, to take out the stuff. 96 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:56,759 But, to me, 97 00:06:56,759 --> 00:07:03,560 me somebody's got to take responsibility for the sidewalk so i i mean i would if you got if the 98 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:12,310 town of stafford won't remove that sidewalk is it possible for the town to write something that says 99 00:07:12,310 --> 00:07:17,589 we are not responsible for this and we're not going to do anything about this so that i can 100 00:07:17,589 --> 00:07:22,069 then in return like somebody's got to take responsibility because when i i said okay 101 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:25,910 if the state's not taking responsibility then you don't have a right away in the front of my house 102 00:07:25,910 --> 00:07:33,509 and it goes well and give it like all day and it's your son that's your sidewalk so i mean i 103 00:07:33,509 --> 00:07:41,180 just i know that it was there prior to it was abandoned so let's say but i mean i'm not going 104 00:07:41,180 --> 00:07:46,620 to spend the money to but it is a hazard i mean at some point somebody would have to take 105 00:07:46,620 --> 00:07:53,420 responsibility i just again it's just it's a bad section of sidewalk and the last two visible 106 00:07:53,420 --> 00:07:56,220 sections are in front of my house and 107 00:07:56,300 --> 00:08:06,939 in front of the island house i mean it wouldn't be nothing to just dig it up and even run the 108 00:08:06,939 --> 00:08:11,899 ground you don't even have to put dirt in there i guess unless they're like really deep you know 109 00:08:11,899 --> 00:08:18,259 what i mean they're just kind of like great enough i mean why if it was never ours why do we take 110 00:08:18,259 --> 00:08:22,019 responsibility for it dave that's the thing if you start doing it they're going to say you're 111 00:08:22,019 --> 00:08:24,259 working in within the state right away 112 00:08:26,579 --> 00:08:36,629 and you need a permit yeah so it's a and you're not yeah i mean i dug a ditch close to this highway 113 00:08:36,629 --> 00:08:42,820 and they stopped and said something to me so i kept digging but i said i'm supposed to i mean i 114 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:47,860 just i guess my question is i would like to know if dave and the board can collectively write 115 00:08:47,860 --> 00:08:54,580 something that doesn't necessarily specify in my home but maybe both you know pieces 116 00:08:55,379 --> 00:08:56,179 hazard and 117 00:08:56,740 --> 00:09:04,019 it needs to be the town the town's not responsible nor has the more do we have the funds to take 118 00:09:04,019 --> 00:09:18,059 care of that i did re-contact aot just to yeah it just wasn't being kind of the response i got 119 00:09:18,059 --> 00:09:25,769 was that it was given off years ago when given back to the landowners that so so there's no 120 00:09:26,409 --> 00:09:32,090 so they they still have a right-of-way but they kind of right gave up the sidewalk i guess the 121 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:37,049 maintenance sure did of course that's awesome that's the danger that i got from it but 122 00:09:37,769 --> 00:09:41,370 well yes i'd be happy have them send something to us that would be good 123 00:09:42,009 --> 00:09:46,090 because they have to be ripped out would you like bury it cover it up and just 124 00:09:46,090 --> 00:09:52,090 plant some topsoil i mean i know you can put this sticking up really high and so it's not 125 00:09:52,090 --> 00:09:59,690 super hot it's flatter and more even in front of rodney's house my house is kind of more buried and 126 00:09:59,690 --> 00:10:01,289 kind of like there's pieces kind of 127 00:10:02,090 --> 00:10:08,490 sticking up i got this in a massive like i mean i don't understand why he can't he can't fix it 128 00:10:08,490 --> 00:10:13,769 it's like my driveway i grade my driveway it's a dirt driveway i start at the highway and i 129 00:10:13,769 --> 00:10:17,929 grade the driveway take care of it right if i didn't there'd be stone off my highway all the 130 00:10:17,929 --> 00:10:22,820 time he told me i had to hire police and technically anytime you're working right away 131 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:29,220 right i mean they usually don't i mean something like that and maintaining a driveway don't be 132 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:32,100 really stops right like they just appreciate you doing what you're doing 133 00:10:32,179 --> 00:10:36,259 work as long as there's no issue and that's what i'm saying if you started doing it and see if 134 00:10:36,259 --> 00:10:43,340 anybody says anything i mean i guess we could write a letter but it just doesn't make sense 135 00:10:43,340 --> 00:10:47,500 you have to hire anybody if you're going to be just going down the side they're not going to 136 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:51,820 jump right on them anyways they're up on top of searsburg fix it and whatever they got going on 137 00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:57,019 up there and they're getting ready for winter if anything they probably won't get done until next 138 00:10:57,019 --> 00:11:02,539 year that's why i'm just like might as well keep dick pushing to see yeah so i don't know what i'm 139 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:07,419 going to do we want her to reach out we could have dave reach out first and see what they're 140 00:11:07,419 --> 00:11:11,980 saying and i don't know who else to reach out to him and i got the answer from the people i deal 141 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:18,139 with um if you want to go ahead and follow that no get it see he'll send you something send you 142 00:11:18,139 --> 00:11:25,179 an email or something you want to set a letter because i prefer police what was the gentleman's 143 00:11:25,179 --> 00:11:31,659 name uh patrick wilson yeah so i spoke to him he was the one that told me they gave it up so i don't 144 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:37,899 know if it's in the pecking order of you know yeah first but i know he's the supervisor for 145 00:11:39,019 --> 00:11:45,100 this area in this area so um he was pretty much told me well you can do whatever you want just 146 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:51,500 gotta hire a detail and i'm like so you gave up the right away and he was like well no but i go 147 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:55,500 well then why aren't you maintaining the sidewalk it's a hazard then it was just kind of like a 148 00:11:55,500 --> 00:12:02,460 useless kind of thing i can see if you're talking to him yeah my guess is he got his answer from 149 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:08,700 you yeah but i i can see if you were blocking the whole road to a higher detail but i mean just like 150 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:14,940 the phone company or the internet guys they put a couple of cones yeah you know if you could put 151 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:19,740 two cones there if you're working on a grand you know higher detail you're calling your law 152 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:23,179 right that's what i'm saying we have a small excavator up there 153 00:12:28,220 --> 00:12:32,779 buried yeah i mean there's no gas pipes up there or anything there's no one in the ground 154 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:42,860 I don't know how big the pieces actually are. 155 00:12:42,860 --> 00:12:48,860 Maybe Rodney can help you. 156 00:12:48,860 --> 00:12:56,919 I mean, if you draw a letter up and you want us to send it, what you want to say, I wouldn't have a problem doing that. 157 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:14,399 Well, I'm just looking for them to ultimately say, again, we're not going to take care of it at that point. 158 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:18,100 But I'd like to have them actually write it down. 159 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:22,779 Forfeit that section rather than a phone call. 160 00:13:22,779 --> 00:13:23,779 Just period. 161 00:13:23,779 --> 00:13:24,779 Yeah. 162 00:13:24,779 --> 00:13:29,779 Back truck up, dump some topsoil, spread it out, call 911. 163 00:13:29,779 --> 00:13:32,289 Mm-hmm. 164 00:13:32,289 --> 00:13:33,289 It's easy. 165 00:13:33,289 --> 00:13:39,639 If you call the state rep, Cooper there, he also works at Madison County. 166 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:42,639 He is an awesome resource. 167 00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:47,820 And then it's like, you want an answer, he'll give it to you in, like, 15 minutes. 168 00:13:47,820 --> 00:13:49,820 He'll make the phone calls. 169 00:13:49,820 --> 00:14:06,830 He's the one that got all the information I need. 170 00:14:06,830 --> 00:14:17,549 The whole study down that sidewalk, it was supposed to be a larger project. 171 00:14:17,549 --> 00:14:18,549 And then it got truncated. 172 00:14:18,549 --> 00:14:22,669 I don't know what it is because the rest of it wasn't feasible at the time. 173 00:14:22,669 --> 00:14:24,539 Yeah. 174 00:14:24,539 --> 00:14:25,539 But I came on that one. 175 00:14:25,539 --> 00:14:30,539 That property was already started when I started working with the town, so. 176 00:14:30,539 --> 00:14:37,539 I think if they went down south more, you were going into people's septic and drainage and. 177 00:14:37,539 --> 00:14:40,539 I was just wondering if they would continue it down to the bridge. 178 00:14:40,539 --> 00:14:41,539 Yeah. 179 00:14:41,539 --> 00:14:42,539 You know what I mean? 180 00:14:42,539 --> 00:14:44,539 Because I think, wasn't it going to Mill Road at one? 181 00:14:44,539 --> 00:14:46,539 It was supposed to start at the bridge. 182 00:14:46,539 --> 00:14:48,539 Bridge to Stevens Lane. 183 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:49,700 Yeah. 184 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:53,919 Bridge to, further down, too. 185 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:58,139 Down to probably Jepson. 186 00:14:58,139 --> 00:15:02,659 They were, because I knew in front of the couple houses down there. 187 00:15:02,659 --> 00:15:08,659 I don't know whether they cut back, whether it was, they ran out of money or would refuse to match any more of it. 188 00:15:08,659 --> 00:15:10,659 Because it was re-estimated a few times. 189 00:15:10,659 --> 00:15:11,659 It was high. 190 00:15:11,659 --> 00:15:16,279 And it was a grant. 191 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:19,279 Safe Routes to School, that got involved in it, too. 192 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:22,370 What, to school? 193 00:15:22,370 --> 00:15:23,370 Nobody walks. 194 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:27,870 They don't take the policy that their momma's in debt. 195 00:15:27,870 --> 00:15:30,870 So, Dave, see if you can get something in writing. 196 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:33,950 All right. 197 00:15:33,950 --> 00:15:34,950 Thank you. 198 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:37,970 Thanks, Dave. 199 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:39,970 Anything else on highway updates? 200 00:15:39,970 --> 00:15:42,090 No. 201 00:15:42,090 --> 00:15:54,559 So, Lori, as soon as we pay the bills for Allstate and get all done with that, we'll have to move the money before the end of the year from. 202 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,559 Check with the auditor how to do it. 203 00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:57,559 Yep. 204 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:08,960 That's it, Dave? 205 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,039 Okay. 206 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:13,039 Recycling, anyhow. 207 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:16,789 You know. 208 00:16:16,789 --> 00:16:27,649 Right. 209 00:16:27,649 --> 00:16:30,700 I'm a certain person now. 210 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:34,700 I just kind of dabbled in the idea that we got our own roll-off truck. 211 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:49,299 So, where do we, where does, I know we've gone down this road about. 212 00:16:49,299 --> 00:16:50,299 I don't know exactly where it goes now. 213 00:16:50,299 --> 00:16:51,299 Huh? 214 00:16:51,299 --> 00:16:52,299 I don't know exactly where it goes. 215 00:16:52,299 --> 00:16:57,299 Because we've gone down this road that Vermont's supposed to haul the Vermont, but I don't believe they are. 216 00:16:57,299 --> 00:17:00,399 I got an answer probably a year ago. 217 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:01,399 Right. 218 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:02,399 Depends on the price. 219 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:05,400 The tipping fee, the tipping fee upstate. 220 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,400 Where do they tip now up? 221 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,400 What's the landfill upstate? 222 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,400 I don't know. 223 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,400 There's one big landfill. 224 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,400 Shasbury? 225 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,400 No. 226 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,400 There's one big landfill upstate. 227 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,400 And depending on the price, it might go over to New York State and it might be shipped somewhere else. 228 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,400 Right. 229 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,400 Out of state. 230 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,400 When they go back, a lot of the stuff goes to Pittsfield or out. 231 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,400 Is that good? 232 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,400 How it was closed. 233 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,400 They closed Shasbury. 234 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Yeah. 235 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,779 And they closed, um. 236 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:22,779 Shasbury. 237 00:17:22,779 --> 00:17:23,779 Shasbury. 238 00:17:23,779 --> 00:17:24,779 Shasbury. 239 00:17:24,779 --> 00:17:25,779 Shasbury. 240 00:17:25,779 --> 00:17:26,779 Shasbury. 241 00:17:26,779 --> 00:17:27,779 Shasbury. 242 00:17:27,779 --> 00:17:29,099 Shasbury. 243 00:17:29,099 --> 00:17:30,099 Shasbury. 244 00:17:30,099 --> 00:17:31,099 Shasbury. 245 00:17:31,099 --> 00:17:32,099 Shasbury. 246 00:17:32,099 --> 00:17:33,099 Shasbury. 247 00:17:33,099 --> 00:17:34,099 Shasbury. 248 00:17:34,099 --> 00:17:35,099 Shasbury. 249 00:17:35,099 --> 00:17:36,099 Shasbury. 250 00:17:36,099 --> 00:17:37,099 Shasbury. 251 00:17:37,099 --> 00:17:38,099 And they were blown off into uh. 252 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:39,099 They were going to Chicago. 253 00:17:39,099 --> 00:17:40,099 Yeah. 254 00:17:40,099 --> 00:17:41,099 I mean, ultimately they bought out everybody. 255 00:17:41,099 --> 00:17:42,099 Right. 256 00:17:42,099 --> 00:17:43,099 And it just closed everything down. 257 00:17:43,099 --> 00:17:44,099 Yeah, that's when we had to find out is where it goes. 258 00:17:44,099 --> 00:17:46,559 ãos looked for these. 259 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:49,980 And it was just a cop. 260 00:17:49,980 --> 00:17:50,960 They told me it depends on the price on the tipping fee. 261 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,099 Where it is cheaper. 262 00:17:52,099 --> 00:17:53,099 Because. 263 00:17:53,099 --> 00:17:55,500 And there's some reliability kind of issues going on. 264 00:17:55,500 --> 00:18:03,720 I had scheduled early last week to have some dumpster work that was supposed to be done 265 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,720 on Friday, getting it done. 266 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,720 And they're over five. 267 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,319 They don't exist. 268 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:14,029 and we still have a small dumpster up there for recycling that yeah and they cannot bring 269 00:18:14,029 --> 00:18:20,609 the right dumpster for recycling and that gets overfilled you know there's one up there it was 270 00:18:20,609 --> 00:18:25,910 it must have been recycled because it was looking like every that was the demolition oh yeah that 271 00:18:25,910 --> 00:18:32,809 was it was ridiculous and i had called and the worst part is is that i was on the phone with 272 00:18:32,809 --> 00:18:43,299 them for 45 minutes the other day to call them back to say hey you never came so like i said 273 00:18:43,299 --> 00:18:48,740 when it was ham i would call the number and they would pick up and i'd say i'm made from 274 00:18:48,740 --> 00:18:57,660 okay thanks two minutes i think it was actually 48 minutes 48 minutes 275 00:18:57,660 --> 00:19:11,480 is irritating in the service i think we're something we've signed a contract 276 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:22,940 at least that's how it used is there competition no there's no 277 00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:23,279 i 278 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:48,259 and the compost i think it's 360 or 70 dollars every time they call that thing 279 00:19:48,259 --> 00:19:58,759 not compost has to stay in town and once a week right no oh everything's supposed to stay in state 280 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:18,309 it's all about the numbers and we got to see where it has to go 281 00:20:18,309 --> 00:20:19,670 to go to the 282 00:20:19,670 --> 00:20:22,789 turn a thousand dollars a year or something silly like that yeah 283 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:23,940 c 284 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:35,950 and that we couldn't call this company cause that was 285 00:20:35,950 --> 00:20:42,069 uh the only other company that is out there that will haul dumpsters is w right now that's what i 286 00:20:42,069 --> 00:20:43,730 need to try to how you guys business 287 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:45,190 is significant so can we use demolino well two out of the three containers are ours so we're going to use demolino 288 00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:46,009 so can we use demolino well two out of the three containers are ours so i'm i guess if we're going to use the 289 00:20:46,009 --> 00:20:46,930 demolino so we're going to use demolino 290 00:20:46,930 --> 00:20:48,269 demolino 291 00:20:48,269 --> 00:20:49,369 demolino 292 00:20:49,369 --> 00:20:50,529 demolino 293 00:20:50,529 --> 00:20:50,990 demolino 294 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:57,869 so i don't see why not right we should talk to them and just say what would you do what are you 295 00:20:57,869 --> 00:21:06,349 able to do out of stanford and let's just say uh they don't do compost well there's a guy that does 296 00:21:06,349 --> 00:21:12,589 compost out of adams he'd be more involved you know we could look at more than one because let's 297 00:21:12,589 --> 00:21:17,150 still do the compost even though we don't have that's out of states i don't know that's what 298 00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:23,230 i'm wondering but so is it because they're right they they're holding on to tam and it's just in 299 00:21:23,230 --> 00:21:31,339 name only so right and they're taking it out of states yeah it's actually it's leaves to say they 300 00:21:31,339 --> 00:21:37,579 didn't keep it right right we know that it's not yeah the only thing the only thing i can say would 301 00:21:37,579 --> 00:21:46,569 be if you with double email would be the number of people they have able to load those because 302 00:21:46,569 --> 00:21:47,769 when i was doing my house 303 00:21:48,329 --> 00:21:53,849 they had one guy that was able to pick dumpsters at the time right and so they're all over the 304 00:21:53,849 --> 00:21:59,690 place and so within the 48 hours that i don't know you know what i mean yeah i don't know but i know 305 00:21:59,690 --> 00:22:06,329 that they will lock those asking them yeah we could just yeah call it call them up and say hey 306 00:22:06,329 --> 00:22:11,289 can you do the things that this guy's doing and well they probably can't at the moment 307 00:22:11,289 --> 00:22:13,849 because we just hired their grow off right right 308 00:22:16,009 --> 00:22:17,930 and uh lori's got a 309 00:22:18,490 --> 00:22:23,769 you and laurie report this to the state so they might look at that and say where is this going 310 00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:33,869 because they don't understand we let definitely all come into this town privately all over the 311 00:22:33,869 --> 00:22:40,089 place what's the difference if we they pick our stuff up it doesn't make sense to me you 312 00:22:40,089 --> 00:22:48,480 hire them to handle it properly right enough yeah yeah yeah that's kind of taking them out 313 00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:56,619 their monopolies are against the laws 314 00:22:56,619 --> 00:23:07,690 yeah maybe i'll start when they're coming back okay thank you dave um discussion update on 315 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:12,329 sustainability of northern berkshire ambulance service survey did you find out anything so 316 00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:16,650 during that meeting that we had paul answered our questions 317 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:25,920 so i didn't reach out to john i felt that okay uh you were at the meeting paul um 318 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:44,089 This year, we asked him about that, he was saying that this is a very, very beginning stages of the ambulance getting information, doing a report, feeling out different towns. 319 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:48,089 They're not in any means right now looking to change anything. 320 00:23:48,089 --> 00:23:57,119 But the numbers that they were telling us, where they get, they bill out, they get about 40% to 60% of what they bill out. 321 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:06,660 If they go and they're called, the ambulance is called to a house, and the person says, denies it when they get there, they get zero. 322 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:12,660 They make most of their calls, North Adams Ambulance or whatever it's called, I don't know, Northern Berkshire. 323 00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:17,980 They get, most of their money comes from transports, hospital to hospital. 324 00:24:17,980 --> 00:24:29,990 Down the road, they're looking at trying to gain income other ways, and that would be one of the, 325 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:33,809 one of the ways they were looking at it is, 326 00:24:33,809 --> 00:24:39,940 looking at towns, municipalities, and feeling, how would you want to go about a structure, 327 00:24:39,940 --> 00:24:44,940 whether it would be based on population or based on the number of calls. 328 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:50,940 I said, well, if we fill out this report, are we locked into that? 329 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:51,940 They said, absolutely not. 330 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:59,900 My question, and I don't think Paul actually answered the question on this, and I apologize, I didn't, 331 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,900 now that I'm thinking about it, I should have asked Johnny on this one, but, 332 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:06,049 how do we know what to put down? 333 00:25:06,049 --> 00:25:08,049 What is a better deal? 334 00:25:08,049 --> 00:25:15,079 If we go population versus calls, I have no idea how many calls Stanford has in a year, 335 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:19,079 and what they would charge versus if they use population. 336 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,079 I have no idea. 337 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:29,240 Theoretically, if you do it by population, you get a fair responsibility, a fair contribution. 338 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,240 And every year, it will probably be about the same amount. 339 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,470 And if you went on the basis of calls, it could be crazy one year and nothing would change. 340 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:40,470 Right, right. 341 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:43,470 So, and we can change at any time. 342 00:25:43,470 --> 00:25:47,470 This is just for that student to do a survey. 343 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:49,470 Yeah, he's doing a report. 344 00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:56,470 And that, they found that, he reached out to them, said, hey, I want to do that on this subject matter. 345 00:25:56,470 --> 00:26:00,470 They said, well, yeah, it's something we would like to get information for. 346 00:26:00,470 --> 00:26:02,470 Can we do this? 347 00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:03,720 So. 348 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,720 We could fill out the report. 349 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,720 If there's questions that you don't know or questions you don't want to answer, just don't answer, leave them blank. 350 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,720 It's not locking us in, but we could put down population at this time. 351 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,720 It's not going to cost us, right now, anything at all. 352 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720 It doesn't commit you to anything. 353 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,849 But it kind of falls on the same thing with the volunteer fire department. 354 00:26:24,849 --> 00:26:32,849 They're looking into the future of what's going to happen, you know, 10 years, 20 years down the road with ambulance services, 355 00:26:32,849 --> 00:26:39,849 what's going to happen with fire departments, law enforcement, school systems, you know, everybody's getting older. 356 00:26:39,849 --> 00:26:41,849 And what's going to happen, so. 357 00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:45,849 But I wouldn't be, according to Paul, I wouldn't be afraid to fill it out. 358 00:26:45,849 --> 00:26:47,849 It's not something we're going to be locked into. 359 00:26:47,849 --> 00:26:54,849 I will, there's been some family things with Johnny, that's why I didn't really bother him. 360 00:26:54,849 --> 00:26:58,750 So I will reach out to him. 361 00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:00,910 So you don't want to fill it out yet? 362 00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:01,910 No, I think we can. 363 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:02,910 I don't see a problem with filling it out. 364 00:27:02,910 --> 00:27:05,910 Based on population or based on? 365 00:27:05,910 --> 00:27:06,910 I would say population. 366 00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:11,910 Based on population and previous year's call combination. 367 00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:13,910 I don't know how they figure all that out. 368 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:15,910 Just check population. 369 00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:16,910 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 370 00:27:16,910 --> 00:27:19,910 And all it is, is a survey. 371 00:27:19,910 --> 00:27:21,910 Yeah, for his thesis. 372 00:27:21,910 --> 00:27:23,910 A survey would have to go through. 373 00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:28,480 Can that be filled out without the town of Stanford's name on it? 374 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Just as an independent survey for a small town in Providence? 375 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,319 I don't know. 376 00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:36,319 I can ask that. 377 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:37,319 We can ask that question. 378 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,319 I mean, if there's any doubt. 379 00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:41,319 So then we go, oh, Stanford said this. 380 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,319 I think there is something in here. 381 00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:45,319 You could keep it private. 382 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:46,319 I think I read something in here. 383 00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:48,319 Yeah, there you go. 384 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:50,319 Yeah. 385 00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,319 Yeah, it's just for him to make it in the report. 386 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:54,319 It's all he's doing. 387 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,319 He's digging up rocks and saying, this is what I found. 388 00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:58,319 Yeah. 389 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:01,730 Yeah, I think I read somewhere. 390 00:28:01,730 --> 00:28:05,730 Eventually, it's going to go to, you know, eventually, there's either a state's going 391 00:28:05,730 --> 00:28:13,730 to have to pay for it and say, OK, we have a state-run system, or the taxes are going 392 00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:14,730 to pay for it. 393 00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:15,730 One or the other. 394 00:28:15,730 --> 00:28:16,730 Sure. 395 00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:17,730 Yeah. 396 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:18,730 So one or the other. 397 00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:23,730 It says here, by completing this survey, you are consenting to your responses being included 398 00:28:23,730 --> 00:28:24,730 in the study. 399 00:28:24,730 --> 00:28:28,730 At your request, your identity will not be included. 400 00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:29,730 Sure. 401 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:30,730 There you go. 402 00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:31,730 That covers it. 403 00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:32,730 That covers everything. 404 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:33,730 If you did, I went to that meeting, too, and I did some kind of thinking about the 405 00:28:33,730 --> 00:28:34,730 whole thing, too. 406 00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:35,730 And I think I'm on the same page as you. 407 00:28:35,730 --> 00:28:36,730 It doesn't mean nothing right now. 408 00:28:36,730 --> 00:28:37,730 And so we could do this survey and let the kid graduate and do his thing or get his 409 00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:38,730 PhD, whatever it is. 410 00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:39,730 But in the long run, this is not on us. 411 00:28:39,730 --> 00:28:40,730 And this is on the insurance companies. 412 00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:41,730 Sure. 413 00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:42,730 Ambulance companies. 414 00:28:42,730 --> 00:28:43,730 And you know what, though? 415 00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:44,730 Yeah. 416 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:45,730 Yeah. 417 00:28:45,730 --> 00:28:46,730 Yeah. 418 00:28:46,730 --> 00:28:47,730 Yeah. 419 00:28:47,730 --> 00:28:48,730 Yeah. 420 00:28:48,730 --> 00:28:49,730 Yeah. 421 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:50,730 Yeah. 422 00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:51,730 Yeah. 423 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:52,730 Yeah. 424 00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:53,730 Yeah. 425 00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:54,730 Yeah. 426 00:28:54,730 --> 00:28:55,730 Yeah. 427 00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:56,730 Yeah. 428 00:28:56,730 --> 00:28:57,730 Yeah. 429 00:28:57,730 --> 00:28:58,730 Yeah. 430 00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:59,730 Yeah. 431 00:28:59,730 --> 00:29:00,730 Yeah. 432 00:29:00,730 --> 00:29:01,730 Yeah. 433 00:29:01,730 --> 00:29:02,730 Yeah. 434 00:29:02,730 --> 00:29:03,730 Yeah. 435 00:29:03,730 --> 00:29:04,730 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 436 00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:05,730 Now, looking at the program, what do you have more on the list? 437 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:06,730 You have, you know, there was kind of a tutelage, pretty much anyиз remained 438 00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:07,730 apply. 439 00:29:07,730 --> 00:29:08,730 You know, we had to do a trial one all of the insurance companies, and if 440 00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:09,730 there was one that caught up, we had to do such-and-such. 441 00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:10,730 You know, that you had to, you know, deal, battle it up. 442 00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:11,730 Preferably, we're all gonna pay for it either way. 443 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:12,730 They get paid. 444 00:29:12,730 --> 00:29:13,730 Okay. 445 00:29:13,730 --> 00:29:14,730 So because you don't have any insurance, my insurance companies, or I'm gonna have 446 00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:15,730 to, you know, pay, pay more, right? 447 00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:16,730 And vice versa, and I don't wanna sound like a trooper or anything like that. 448 00:29:16,730 --> 00:29:17,730 Sure. 449 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:18,730 Yeah. 450 00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:19,730 Sure. 451 00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:20,730 Sure. 452 00:29:20,730 --> 00:29:21,730 Sure. 453 00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:34,539 I don't understand how an insurance company can charge us money, our premiums, and then tell us service, no we're not paying that. 454 00:29:34,539 --> 00:29:50,460 Let me ask you a question. If you made a product and you had a whole bunch of this stuff, and you're just throwing it out the back window, and all of a sudden you've got a contract, and they're willing to pay you 60 cents on the dollar, how do you make up for that 40 cents? 455 00:29:52,069 --> 00:29:53,450 I charge the guy next time more. 456 00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:57,410 So he's only going to pay you 60%, not 100%. 457 00:29:57,410 --> 00:29:59,289 I bump my brains out. 458 00:29:59,829 --> 00:30:00,190 Right. 459 00:30:00,529 --> 00:30:03,150 I know. It's math. It's pretty easy. 460 00:30:03,150 --> 00:30:19,150 You read the bill that comes back, whether it's Medicare or your insurance, so-and-so punches the bill, how much was approved by Medicare, and how much was paid. 461 00:30:19,390 --> 00:30:19,509 Right. 462 00:30:20,109 --> 00:30:24,140 And there's huge, obviously they're pumping up the price to begin with. 463 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,740 Yeah, of course they are. 464 00:30:26,339 --> 00:30:30,460 And then they're saying, we're not getting paid, but they are. 465 00:30:32,069 --> 00:30:37,049 But that is to make the insurance company say, hey, you've got to pay more. 466 00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:43,970 And they're also not telling us that they're in the red. They're sitting there saying, you know. 467 00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:46,170 The hospitals may be going in the red, but not the insurance company. 468 00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:47,029 Right, right. 469 00:30:47,950 --> 00:30:48,349 Okay. 470 00:30:49,089 --> 00:30:51,809 If you have any more questions, I can call. 471 00:30:51,829 --> 00:30:53,150 I'll complete it with Lori. 472 00:30:53,150 --> 00:30:54,730 I mean, if you want, I can ask you. 473 00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:56,910 I can come here if you wanted, but maybe. 474 00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:00,079 I don't think there's anything to get me to do. 475 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:00,839 At this point, no. 476 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:13,660 I would imagine if it comes down to billing, we're going to have to talk about it more because it'll have to be approved at town meeting, too. 477 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:18,390 Review all boards meeting. 478 00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:23,670 I'm glad we had a lot of representatives from the select board at the meeting. 479 00:31:25,849 --> 00:31:27,750 And the ones that were at the meeting. 480 00:31:28,349 --> 00:31:32,430 I think we had some good information of what's going on, so that was good to see. 481 00:31:33,069 --> 00:31:38,960 We did say maybe we can meet again in six months, three months. 482 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,609 I thought it was well worth having. 483 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:42,769 Yeah, yeah. 484 00:31:43,690 --> 00:31:51,400 Try for six months, and maybe we'll have some other boards there. 485 00:31:52,019 --> 00:31:55,259 I think it's important to do that because there is some overlap. 486 00:31:55,259 --> 00:32:02,240 If you notice, there's some things that conservation is working on that overlap. 487 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,740 Yeah. 488 00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:06,759 Which is ideal, but people we need to talk to, right? 489 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:07,259 Mm-hmm. 490 00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:07,759 Yeah. 491 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,470 Well, yeah. 492 00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:13,470 Anything else on all boards? 493 00:32:13,470 --> 00:32:13,970 No. 494 00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:14,630 Okay. 495 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:15,630 Correspondence, Laurie? 496 00:32:30,670 --> 00:32:34,400 So are we, do we have an open position? 497 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,400 Like an alternate? 498 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,900 I mean, I'll put a thousand people in as an alternate if they want to put their name up there. 499 00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:46,220 I mean, people are... 500 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,720 If they want to get involved, I don't see why we would say no. 501 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,720 So what is the alternate doing in the Planning Commission? 502 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,720 They can't vote, right? 503 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,720 They can't. 504 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,289 There's not a forum. 505 00:32:57,289 --> 00:32:58,289 But... 506 00:32:58,289 --> 00:33:00,289 If they're short and regular members aren't there, they vote. 507 00:33:00,289 --> 00:33:01,289 They can vote. 508 00:33:01,289 --> 00:33:02,289 Right. 509 00:33:02,289 --> 00:33:06,289 And the thing is, Nancy, is like, you still have dialogue. 510 00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:08,289 You're talking about a person with a Ph.D. right here, right? 511 00:33:08,289 --> 00:33:09,289 And so... 512 00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:10,289 I don't know. 513 00:33:10,289 --> 00:33:11,289 She didn't say anything. 514 00:33:11,289 --> 00:33:12,680 Yeah. 515 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,680 Yeah. 516 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,680 No information at all. 517 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,680 I don't know who she is or anything. 518 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Yeah. 519 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,680 And so... 520 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Natalie has a Ph.D., so... 521 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,680 Any of those chemistry. 522 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,680 Oh, yeah. 523 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,680 Very talented. 524 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:39,440 They have to have a voice at the meeting, everybody, even this guy, talks. 525 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,440 No. 526 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,440 We had this all night last month. 527 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,440 You had a question? 528 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Oh, I thought... 529 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,829 No, I was going to ask... 530 00:33:44,829 --> 00:33:45,829 I thought you were going to get... 531 00:33:45,829 --> 00:33:46,829 I thought you were going to... 532 00:33:46,829 --> 00:33:47,829 Yeah. 533 00:33:47,829 --> 00:33:48,829 And we talked about this at the all Boards, too. 534 00:33:48,829 --> 00:33:49,829 These are appointed positions. 535 00:33:49,829 --> 00:33:50,829 And when there's a Board that is appointed... 536 00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:51,829 Yeah. 537 00:33:51,829 --> 00:33:52,829 I'm sorry. 538 00:33:52,829 --> 00:33:53,829 I'm sorry. 539 00:33:53,829 --> 00:33:54,829 That's okay. 540 00:33:54,829 --> 00:34:01,630 and it is appointed and you don't have a quorum you can have this happen and you know you get 541 00:34:01,630 --> 00:34:07,309 people that show up and then you go oh we're not on quorum it kind of painted it it's embarrassing 542 00:34:07,309 --> 00:34:22,400 yeah so this helps i don't see any negative to it yeah so when people come due for their term 543 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:32,239 or appointed boards is there anything that states that those people have to be reappointed 544 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:38,639 is that just kind of like a common courtesy that everybody does because i know when positions come 545 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:45,460 available i've heard grumblings that other people are interested so at that point at what point do 546 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:51,920 they put in and say hey i think this is a better way of doing it now we know right well before we 547 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,500 didn't know 548 00:34:52,519 --> 00:35:00,710 and i think at least in my history we've always said hey you know so and so is on the board 549 00:35:00,710 --> 00:35:06,829 he's still on the board we haven't heard any problems he's up his turn's up let's send him 550 00:35:06,829 --> 00:35:13,949 a thing ask him if he wants to continue to do it now it is and i'm not saying that there's any 551 00:35:13,949 --> 00:35:20,460 particular person right now but it is an opportunity to say no there are people that 552 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:23,340 you might say hey this person has been an agitator 553 00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:27,500 or you know just causing trouble or they're not doing what we thought they would do 554 00:35:28,469 --> 00:35:36,780 can we if we have the ability to say uh in this town that we have a list of people that want on 555 00:35:37,420 --> 00:35:42,139 and we can it is an opportunity to say no we're going to appoint this person instead of this 556 00:35:42,139 --> 00:35:48,380 person i've never seen that done but we could of course want to do it with that with that kind of 557 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:53,820 procedure would be like so i'll use me as an example and i'll use jim as an example let's say 558 00:35:54,460 --> 00:36:01,559 we can say both of our terms are up this year okay and we have two more people that are like hey 559 00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:09,579 we want to we are interested in these two seats that are coming up for reappointment what we can do 560 00:36:09,579 --> 00:36:16,320 is how it was done in the past but it doesn't have to be in march we can say we want to do this this 561 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:23,099 is how we want to who's interested send us a letter now or we can continue with the policy and 562 00:36:23,099 --> 00:36:24,219 they've talked about and how it was done this year we're allешь are not here yet we're right now we're put into治 563 00:36:24,219 --> 00:36:29,579 current members whose term is up but we've never had that's what i have to take i mean you want to 564 00:36:29,579 --> 00:36:39,000 continue as a chair for the board the planning commission i'm not opposed to i'm not necessarily 565 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:45,639 for just continuously reappointing people i think it's great to have a review especially from the 566 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,960 select board to say hey exactly like you said this is what's been happening or this hasn't 567 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,360 been happening or maybe they didn't quite fit the need maybe this person comes with 568 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,719 some qualifications for town two you know whatever the case may be yeah i'm not opposed to 569 00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:06,300 i'd be more opposed to just continuously saying all right you know they're there they're just 570 00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:10,780 going to stay there and this could be a good time to change because we've never had a lot of 571 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:16,860 volunteers for anything so it's an opportunity a unique opportunity but this hasn't happened 572 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:21,260 right we always would wait and then we'd be missing people and someone would write a letter 573 00:37:21,820 --> 00:37:22,139 and i 574 00:37:22,219 --> 00:37:25,980 understand that some people you know like they start to get busy maybe they're older they have 575 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:31,420 different priorities and stuff like that yeah i mean we have numbers where they don't go yeah 576 00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:35,260 they're going to say geez we don't know what's going on yeah there just could be new blood that 577 00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:40,460 is like hey yeah you know they're willing they're able to when they're they're all for i'm not saying 578 00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:45,019 that anybody's going to be any better than anybody else i'm just saying like i would i would appreciate 579 00:37:45,739 --> 00:37:51,820 from my board i guess for anybody else that the select board would take into account anybody even 580 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:52,059 even 581 00:37:52,219 --> 00:37:58,940 if it was for myself against myself like oh yeah yeah i understand yeah and i i personally as a 582 00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:06,059 slackboard member would look at what these boards bring back and say the planet board recommends 583 00:38:07,019 --> 00:38:13,739 that this new person be considered because of this and the other person hasn't been coming 584 00:38:13,739 --> 00:38:21,820 to meetings or been on for 25 years or you know it's just it give us reasons why because some people 585 00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:27,019 i think stay on boards because they know no one else is doing it yeah i'll do it again 586 00:38:27,579 --> 00:38:34,940 uh we've had people on boards for 20 30 years and they're in their go they're older years 587 00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:40,300 and they just say yeah i'll do it again a board that doesn't meet a lot like the conservation 588 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:45,510 committee just recently been brickаб programs 589 00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:52,039 meeting at all and also hearing them all the time now but they're just kind of in name only 590 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:58,039 haven't done anything and we have and i'm not saying that they have to it's just that can i 591 00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:08,250 can i make one recommendation no could this board consider taking the recommendation i'm not you 592 00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:16,619 know taking the recommendation from the chair of the committee so the time comes at the annual 593 00:39:16,619 --> 00:39:24,300 meeting at the first organizational meeting prior to that the meeting prior to that maybe the board 594 00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:30,300 submits a recommendation that we keep on the members that are the current members that are 595 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:37,900 terms are off or we're having an issue and sure we don't recommend it doesn't have to get into it 596 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:45,019 it's just their end of the term and that's the time to do it yeah i would look at all aspects 597 00:39:45,019 --> 00:39:46,539 i don't think it would hurt to write something 598 00:39:46,619 --> 00:39:51,340 up or even have a chair sitting on like the meeting when we're doing all that yeah it would 599 00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:55,420 be great to have that kind of involvement from the church like like nancy's saying we didn't 600 00:39:55,420 --> 00:40:02,139 have these problems or not problems but these opportunities before we were sitting there saying 601 00:40:02,139 --> 00:40:07,289 hey there's nine people and we can't find them so we're gonna we're gonna do the eight that want to 602 00:40:07,289 --> 00:40:11,610 stay and that miss them when we're gonna advertise you know we don't attend the meetings like you 603 00:40:11,610 --> 00:40:16,949 guys would right so i think a lot of those other things your point of view yeah 604 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:21,750 you know this is what's going on at the meetings yeah this person would be a great you know asset 605 00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:30,550 that would be a great idea i think that's a good idea thanks yeah so when it comes to 606 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:37,380 natalie appointment yeah i would make a motion that we appoint her as an alternate so how many 607 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:44,659 are on that board now jim nine ten nine nine no alternates no no stephanie took was the 608 00:40:44,659 --> 00:40:47,300 originally the alternate and she just took the position 609 00:40:49,059 --> 00:40:49,780 and that's good 610 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:55,300 that they go to meetings and even if they never vote they can see how it works so now they get a 611 00:40:55,300 --> 00:41:00,019 little experience of a meeting they have all the knowledge of the world an alternate how would the 612 00:41:08,659 --> 00:41:13,460 yeah they should show up just like i said so they can get knowledge of what's going on it's just a 613 00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:19,860 non non-voting member so they are kind of meetings that just don't have any vote unless somebody's a 614 00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:25,219 absent and they yeah they're present the one thing we did mention at the all boards meeting 615 00:41:25,219 --> 00:41:31,139 is if an alternate steps in say you're talking about a particular subject matter right and you 616 00:41:32,019 --> 00:41:37,369 you're going to vote so if they table it well we're not voting tonight but we're going to 617 00:41:37,369 --> 00:41:43,690 table it the following meeting that alternate that was involved in the evaluation of that 618 00:41:43,690 --> 00:41:49,739 subject matter would stay on even though the original plan board members should come i think 619 00:41:50,619 --> 00:41:55,659 and they if it was tabled then it would the board would retake okay but there is going to be a 620 00:41:55,659 --> 00:42:03,019 situation though isn't there yeah there's going to be a situation like for instance um an alternate 621 00:42:03,019 --> 00:42:09,659 steps in like one of one of like kurt's not here right now and and so i'm the only one yeah and you 622 00:42:09,659 --> 00:42:15,739 guys need a quorum or john's not here you're what if you need it and so i would make the quorum i 623 00:42:15,739 --> 00:42:18,860 could vote on that issue or the whole the whole issue 624 00:42:20,619 --> 00:42:27,960 Any issue that is approved by the board based on my vote, I would continue that onward. 625 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:35,820 If any of that issue comes back up on the board, that would be considered one of my cases. 626 00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:45,010 Okay, so John made a motion to appoint Harry's alternate. Was there a second? 627 00:42:45,389 --> 00:42:45,650 Second. 628 00:42:46,659 --> 00:42:47,340 All in favor? 629 00:42:47,860 --> 00:42:48,300 Aye. 630 00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:48,760 Sure. 631 00:42:58,659 --> 00:43:04,880 Employee policy handbook, we have to sign that. We approved it last week. 632 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,000 Last meeting? 633 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:07,480 Yep. 634 00:43:08,659 --> 00:43:53,619 Have you heard anything from Bob on the 911 update on the... 635 00:43:53,619 --> 00:43:54,079 No. 636 00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:58,710 Numbering, okay. I know they were going to be working on it. 637 00:43:59,610 --> 00:44:05,429 I don't know if you have a 911 matter that I don't know if you want to handle now or under your business. 638 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,320 I might as well do it now. 639 00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:09,380 Discussed? 640 00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:09,980 Yep. 641 00:44:11,219 --> 00:44:17,230 We have somebody wanting to build on a private row property. 642 00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:17,989 Tatra Road. 643 00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:26,489 It's just a road that has four properties around it. 644 00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:35,570 I talked to Bill about how he wanted to number it and it made sense to name the road. 645 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,539 Because you can't all really be off of Tatra Road if there's... 646 00:44:40,539 --> 00:44:41,719 All this stuff doesn't have a name. 647 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,400 It's not really a driveway. It doesn't have a road. It has a road name. 648 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,099 So I wrote a letter to all of the four. 649 00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:54,239 There were a bunch of property owners asking if any of them had a name they would like you to consider. 650 00:44:55,219 --> 00:44:57,599 I received one response back. 651 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,760 Hawthorne Lane. 652 00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:04,889 One of the four property owners. 653 00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:09,170 Once the road is named, then Bill can assign... 654 00:45:09,170 --> 00:45:11,449 I'm sorry, Lori, did you suggest naming it? 655 00:45:11,789 --> 00:45:13,070 Hawthorne Lane. 656 00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:22,320 So when the private road is named, 657 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,840 the town is not responsible for signage. 658 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:26,900 Or anything, are they? 659 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:28,900 We'll put up a sign. A street sign. 660 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:29,400 We do. 661 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,900 We do. 662 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:30,900 We do the first. 663 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:31,400 Okay. 664 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,900 We do, like, Mountain View Lane. 665 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:35,900 So private roads, we put up something. 666 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:36,900 Arcadia Drive, we put up the... 667 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:37,900 Yeah. 668 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:40,659 I suggest Levine Lane. 669 00:45:40,659 --> 00:45:42,659 I was going to say Stimson. 670 00:45:42,659 --> 00:45:43,659 No. 671 00:45:43,659 --> 00:45:44,659 What name? 672 00:45:44,659 --> 00:45:45,659 Levine Lane. 673 00:45:45,659 --> 00:45:46,659 No, no. 674 00:45:47,949 --> 00:45:48,949 I don't want to move. 675 00:45:49,949 --> 00:45:52,429 Are we signing on the letter back? 676 00:45:52,429 --> 00:45:55,429 Is there a culvert that needs to be replaced? 677 00:45:55,429 --> 00:45:56,429 A giant hole? 678 00:45:58,869 --> 00:46:00,130 Sure. 679 00:46:00,130 --> 00:46:01,130 Before... 680 00:46:01,130 --> 00:46:02,960 It's going to be a driveway permit or road permit. 681 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,960 Yeah. 682 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,960 It already exists, but they need to replace their culvert. 683 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,960 Yep. 684 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,960 We have named your road. 685 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,960 Now you need to put the culvert in. 686 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,960 Well, even before that. 687 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,280 So, on a private road, we are responsible for telling them that they have to fix their 688 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,280 road? 689 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,280 Well, it's their... 690 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,280 Either whether it's a driveway or they're... 691 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,280 Okay. 692 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,280 It's within our right of way. 693 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,280 I got you. 694 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,280 It's at the beginning of their road. 695 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,280 Right. 696 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,280 Okay. 697 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,280 Yeah. 698 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,280 Okay. 699 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,280 Timing should be interesting. 700 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,280 Right now, there's only one parking lot. 701 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,280 Right. 702 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,280 Okay. 703 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,280 Okay. 704 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,280 Okay. 705 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,300 Okay. 706 00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:31,300 Okay. 707 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:32,300 So right now there's only one person who's using that road. 708 00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:33,650 All of them. 709 00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:34,650 And now there'll be a second. 710 00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:35,940 Got you. 711 00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:36,940 Can we know where this permit stage is at? 712 00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:37,940 What's that? 713 00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:43,610 Where we're at at the permit stage of that, because I'm not hearding any of this, so 714 00:46:43,610 --> 00:46:44,610 I'm just... 715 00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:45,610 I know. 716 00:46:45,610 --> 00:46:46,610 There is a permit that has been approved. 717 00:46:46,610 --> 00:46:47,610 To build? 718 00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:48,610 To build. 719 00:46:48,610 --> 00:46:49,610 To build. 720 00:46:49,610 --> 00:46:50,610 A... 721 00:46:50,610 --> 00:46:51,610 So, a three season cabin. 722 00:46:51,610 --> 00:46:52,610 Cabin? 723 00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:53,610 They're going through that, I'm assuming, at this point first. 724 00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:54,610 Can I ask for a person that has... 725 00:46:54,610 --> 00:46:55,610 Oh, it's in our mind. 726 00:46:55,610 --> 00:46:56,610 Hmm. 727 00:46:56,610 --> 00:46:57,610 It's in our mind. 728 00:46:57,610 --> 00:46:58,610 Oh. 729 00:46:58,610 --> 00:46:59,610 Wait a minute. 730 00:46:59,610 --> 00:47:00,610 There's a permit there too. 731 00:47:00,610 --> 00:47:01,610 Let me see. 732 00:47:01,610 --> 00:47:02,610 Okay. 733 00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:11,170 suggested the name is that their name no um it's off from tater road and it's jean kerfield craig 734 00:47:11,170 --> 00:47:21,230 turner kooja kooja and the new people that just bought are salt and this the only response i got 735 00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:28,670 was from gene kerfield saying and salt is the one that got the permit now there's a new property 736 00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:33,710 over in the who's in somebody's box i think i moved it on i think the permit came in our box 737 00:47:34,429 --> 00:47:42,269 so maybe it was in is there a reason why we would wait on this no i don't see a reason 738 00:47:43,150 --> 00:47:50,900 no one else got back they had an opportunity correct we've had everybody had an opportunity 739 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:55,780 they got a letter everyone had an opportunity and i asked them to respond by tonight's meeting 740 00:47:57,619 --> 00:48:00,019 then i i would make a motion 741 00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:06,579 reason we need a name is because they didn't know they're going right right and if they didn't they 742 00:48:06,579 --> 00:48:10,099 don't like it they had their opportunity they can come down and fight it next year 743 00:48:12,829 --> 00:48:14,829 i don't think anybody has a mailbox 744 00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:30,670 they still have a post office box in north adams oh okay i don't think 745 00:48:30,909 --> 00:48:33,820 craig has a local mailing address 746 00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:42,690 he lives in adams now even anybody on county road no road all over the bottom anyways for mail 747 00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:46,929 offices right some tell me though there's ever an incident after the police department really 748 00:48:46,929 --> 00:48:52,849 hawk on lane hawk where the hell is that right right yeah but once you name it it goes to the 749 00:48:53,570 --> 00:48:55,730 state the post office it goes everywhere 750 00:48:56,690 --> 00:48:59,889 911. i mean i don't see any reason to hold up 751 00:48:59,889 --> 00:49:00,369 a reason? 752 00:49:00,369 --> 00:49:02,650 If there was a reason to hold it up, I'd say go ahead. 753 00:49:03,110 --> 00:49:05,329 Bill makes a sign. Who makes a sign for the road? 754 00:49:05,610 --> 00:49:06,570 Does the fire department do it? 755 00:49:06,590 --> 00:49:07,130 The town does. 756 00:49:07,769 --> 00:49:08,650 Dave does. 757 00:49:09,590 --> 00:49:12,170 I'll make a motion. We name it Coughlin Road. 758 00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:13,949 Lane or road? 759 00:49:14,510 --> 00:49:14,969 Coughlin Road. 760 00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:16,070 Whatever they want. 761 00:49:18,329 --> 00:49:20,349 Isn't there a two-year waiting list for all signs? 762 00:49:21,010 --> 00:49:21,190 No. 763 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:23,769 Just municipality signs, Jim. 764 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,980 Then we get to put two at a time up, depending on what Gene writes. 765 00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:34,980 If it wasn't clear, lane is more likely to indicate the kind of road it is. 766 00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:38,289 So is lane appropriate or not appropriate? 767 00:49:38,349 --> 00:49:39,369 She put lane, correct? 768 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:40,449 She put lane. 769 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:40,969 Fine. 770 00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:42,420 Pretty good. 771 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:43,199 Yep. 772 00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:48,619 Now we've got to go measure them all. 773 00:49:50,989 --> 00:49:51,889 Now the... 774 00:49:52,469 --> 00:49:53,719 I'll put that back in. 775 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,579 It hurts, Max. 776 00:49:56,119 --> 00:50:00,420 Yeah, it's a 20 by 30 seasonal cabin. 777 00:50:01,530 --> 00:50:03,010 Is the lane... 778 00:50:03,010 --> 00:50:03,190 Nothing else. 779 00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:04,190 ...accessible by... 780 00:50:05,010 --> 00:50:06,989 You know, emergency vehicles? 781 00:50:07,489 --> 00:50:07,789 Hold on. 782 00:50:07,809 --> 00:50:08,989 Is that the slide in? 783 00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:10,730 What are we doing here? 784 00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:11,489 It exists. 785 00:50:11,650 --> 00:50:12,389 Just checking our houses. 786 00:50:12,389 --> 00:50:14,289 He's saying the culvert needs to be replaced. 787 00:50:14,610 --> 00:50:14,630 Yeah. 788 00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:15,309 Because it's supposed to go... 789 00:50:15,309 --> 00:50:18,789 And we need to think, like, ah, maybe the rest of it probably needs work, too. 790 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,300 I'm sorry, John. 791 00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:24,519 I haven't done it in 10, 15 years. 792 00:50:24,539 --> 00:50:26,239 And their response for me came in? 793 00:50:26,659 --> 00:50:27,780 See, well, here, yeah. 794 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:32,400 I mean, the state law, there is a state law about private roads, but we don't... 795 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,300 I don't think it literally enforces it. 796 00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:35,719 It's up to them, but... 797 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,179 So they're... 798 00:50:36,179 --> 00:50:36,639 Oh, no. 799 00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:39,500 The store owners, they all kind of... 800 00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:40,800 Sousa has a separate entry. 801 00:50:41,019 --> 00:50:42,380 The state law says... 802 00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:45,360 But they have a lot to contribute to the property. 803 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:46,840 They have to contribute to the property. 804 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,760 That's all it says. 805 00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:52,380 Bill's going to get a 911 call and say, well, meet me at the broken culvert, because we're 806 00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:52,840 not driving. 807 00:50:56,380 --> 00:50:58,059 You don't know where the broken culvert is? 808 00:50:58,059 --> 00:51:04,960 That there are at least some level of minimal maintenance, I mean, where, you know, the 809 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,519 fire department has to go up there. 810 00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:08,980 Can you work with Lori on the letter? 811 00:51:08,980 --> 00:51:09,980 I mean, if this goes through, we're going to have two structures on the road. 812 00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:10,980 Well, isn't there a third one, too? 813 00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:11,980 That fellow's got a garage up there, right? 814 00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:13,329 Well, it would be one, and then this would be two. 815 00:51:13,329 --> 00:51:14,329 Is this on his land? 816 00:51:14,329 --> 00:51:15,329 No, it's a bunker. 817 00:51:15,329 --> 00:51:16,329 Okay, so you've got that garage or whatever. 818 00:51:16,329 --> 00:51:17,329 That's pretty. 819 00:51:17,329 --> 00:51:18,329 Yeah. 820 00:51:18,329 --> 00:51:19,329 And then this one. 821 00:51:19,329 --> 00:51:20,679 Yeah. 822 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:21,679 And Cush is technically off of this cul-de-sac, even though it's got to be the 823 00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:22,679 gravel. 824 00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:23,679 So Cush goes up the right side, Kerfield goes up the left side, and then there's two 825 00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:24,679 of them, right? 826 00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:25,880 Yeah. 827 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,880 Okay. 828 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,880 Okay. 829 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,880 Okay. 830 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,880 Okay. 831 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,880 Okay. 832 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,880 Okay. 833 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,880 Okay. 834 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,880 Okay. 835 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,880 Okay. 836 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,880 Okay. 837 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,880 Okay. 838 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,880 Okay. 839 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,880 Okay. 840 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,880 Okay. 841 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,880 Okay. 842 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,880 Okay. 843 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,880 Okay. 844 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,880 So Cush has a different entrance to his house. 845 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Right. 846 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,880 But technically, he's on that cul-de-sac, too, because that's part of the subdivision. 847 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,880 Well, what's his 9-1-1? 848 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,880 Take a road. 849 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,070 Take a road, yeah. 850 00:51:51,070 --> 00:51:52,969 Cush has their own driveway. 851 00:51:52,969 --> 00:51:54,219 Yeah. 852 00:51:54,219 --> 00:51:55,219 Yeah. 853 00:51:55,219 --> 00:51:57,179 Right. 854 00:51:57,179 --> 00:51:58,179 And then technically... 855 00:51:58,179 --> 00:52:00,900 If he ever decides that he wants to take access off of that... 856 00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:01,900 He's never... 857 00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,460 Off of the road. 858 00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:04,460 Yep. 859 00:52:04,460 --> 00:52:05,699 We'll have to give him a license. 860 00:52:05,699 --> 00:52:11,780 the number but there has to be a structure and they need to have a driveway off of it into this 861 00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:20,650 structure well he's already got deals right so i just have a dumb question so what's that popular 862 00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:27,130 popular uh popular right there's more than one house there how did their 911 does it say that 863 00:52:27,769 --> 00:52:36,070 drive that's their they have street numbers on popular okay okay and every so every private 864 00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:43,349 road will be the 901 number it's the name of the private road so even up by jim jim's he's 865 00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:50,099 got a private road up in bayou right it's not you jim this jim so that's i can't remember blaze 866 00:52:51,539 --> 00:52:56,500 so there's two structures on there now yeah and they have i have separate numbers 867 00:52:57,460 --> 00:53:05,719 wow okay that's good so down on the shore road do they have both their numbers to show 868 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:13,480 that up in blaze road there's two structures they're just they have to drive up blaze road and 869 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,280 find one or two there's another street sign for blaze road right yeah that's what i'm saying so 870 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:24,199 the 9-1-1 and re just comes off of that road and people get confused because it doesn't say private 871 00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:30,440 road there's even a person building across the road from the driveway and he thought that was 872 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,960 a regular road because it doesn't say private oh i see yeah doesn't the sign say private no 873 00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:45,300 ever done that well mountain view lane it says private doesn't it i think we i thought they said 874 00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:50,099 i thought it said private a small pvt that's up to the landlords i guess 875 00:53:50,980 --> 00:53:57,139 they don't want you on there do you fall off no no but it's kind of you know if you live on the 876 00:53:57,139 --> 00:54:02,980 end of a private road and you know he's in the front of it he can't stop me from going to visit 877 00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:08,980 you right well i know it's private in the senses but right now right but the mailman 878 00:54:09,139 --> 00:54:14,739 or ups and people go up those roads but that's why the state has opinions is saying that you can 879 00:54:14,739 --> 00:54:20,659 compel each of the people along the road to contribute to its maintenance can you check and 880 00:54:20,659 --> 00:54:26,500 see private road mountain view or popular popular i thought they said private at the end it does 881 00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:37,739 popular because i think it says pvt i thought so too nickels road so if it's private do the same 882 00:54:37,739 --> 00:54:42,389 with hawthorne and we'll continue that way yep 883 00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:46,150 so mike made the motion do we have a second 884 00:54:48,389 --> 00:54:56,019 second all in favor and then if you would work with dave and send a letter that 885 00:54:56,019 --> 00:55:04,579 they need a call send them the culvert stuff and and if you stress that emergency vehicles 886 00:55:04,579 --> 00:55:09,059 aren't going to be able to get up there readily or put a hole right in the center it's pretty 887 00:55:09,059 --> 00:55:15,909 obvious you can see it i'm sure the fire department can get over it but yeah yeah and 888 00:55:15,909 --> 00:55:17,190 it's starting to fill in and it's 889 00:55:17,269 --> 00:55:23,269 not it's not doing its job yeah yeah 890 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:38,889 town sign update lori got a couple of uh i think i emailed both yeah two designs um the price 891 00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:46,329 will stay the same regardless of what you pick so it's just a matter of choosing what you want 892 00:55:46,329 --> 00:55:52,179 and moving forward any preference guys i put an email 893 00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:57,820 that I like the arch better but I don't care. I like seeing them both. I like the arch better 894 00:55:57,820 --> 00:56:04,809 compared to the straight across one. What kind of mirrors the church? A little bit. Yeah the church 895 00:56:04,809 --> 00:56:10,610 has a little bit more. I just think it's a little bit more pizzazz. I like it yeah. But I don't 896 00:56:10,610 --> 00:56:20,329 if it if a sign gets up there I'll be happy. Yes. I like the square one but I'm happy with 897 00:56:20,329 --> 00:56:27,610 the sign. The square one? Yes. I liked it in the beginning but I kind of like the smooth better 898 00:56:27,610 --> 00:56:40,170 now. Yeah. No it doesn't matter to me. So do we have a motion to go? Which one? Motion to use the 899 00:56:40,170 --> 00:56:47,650 arch. Arch sign. There you go. Second. All in favor? Aye. Get her done. Well I got another sign. 900 00:56:49,650 --> 00:56:51,889 Octagon. No more. Get her done. 901 00:56:52,190 --> 00:56:52,389 It's good. 902 00:56:52,409 --> 00:57:02,110 It's going to be 3D. Jim can you work with Pam about the flowers? Yeah I actually reached out and called her today but I didn't get a return. 903 00:57:02,349 --> 00:57:13,420 Okay. Under old business. Dog update? Everybody registered or just still one? Still one. 904 00:57:13,820 --> 00:57:18,619 That one. Who's going to get in touch with him this week? Luke is going to get in touch with him? 905 00:57:18,619 --> 00:57:25,800 I talked to him maybe Wednesday-ish and he's going to try and call again. Okay. 906 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:32,110 So the deal was he was waiting for an August appointment. On that subject. Mid-September. 907 00:57:32,110 --> 00:57:38,409 At one point in time the town used to do a rabies clinic. Is that something that we might want to be used to? 908 00:57:38,409 --> 00:57:57,090 Be used to? Why did we stop? Well. We ran out of volunteers. What's that? The fire department put it on. We kind of ran out of volunteers because you had to clean before and clean after the fire department. 909 00:57:57,090 --> 00:58:13,510 We had a firehouse in the meeting room. Sometimes it went easily. Sometimes it was a mess to clean up. And when we had difficulty of getting a veterinarian who would come and do it and one thing to another that the last one was here, right? 910 00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:28,309 The last one was here. It worked out good, Laurie said. I was wondering about the clean up too but I guess it worked out alright. The dogs were fine. And then with so many rabies clinics around 911 00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:42,179 at Tractor Supply and most people bring their dogs to the vets anyway, it almost wasn't worth their time to do it. You probably got probably 20, 30 dogs registered the most. 912 00:58:42,179 --> 00:58:51,250 20 and 30 people. We always did it Sunday afternoon from like 1 to 3. 913 00:58:51,250 --> 00:59:04,440 It did, this year there was none but we still have the same people that are on the list. But that's something. 914 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:04,940 Yeah. 915 00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:06,900 Check with Luke and see how he feels about it. 916 00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:18,199 You're going to put on the clinic. You're probably not going to get everybody in town to go to it anyways. You're still going to have dogs not registered, not, you know, so why bother doing it, right? 917 00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:29,619 I mean it is handy for the people who, like your rabies shot is usually a three year shot. So it revolves and anybody who brings their dog to the clinic will license their dog. 918 00:59:29,619 --> 00:59:30,619 Right then and there. 919 00:59:30,619 --> 00:59:32,619 Right then and there. So it is convenient. 920 00:59:32,619 --> 00:59:35,900 Tractor Supply is less expensive. 921 00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:37,739 Yes. 922 00:59:37,739 --> 00:59:39,739 Since it could go to a vet. 923 00:59:39,739 --> 00:59:44,739 And the vet used to give the fire department part of the donation, that one vet. 924 00:59:44,739 --> 00:59:45,739 A dollar. 925 00:59:45,739 --> 00:59:46,739 A dollar a dog? 926 00:59:46,739 --> 00:59:47,739 Yeah. 927 00:59:47,739 --> 00:59:50,960 Well, they don't donate to the town. 928 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,260 No. A dollar a dog. 929 00:59:55,260 --> 01:00:06,300 There are traveling veterinarians though. So if anybody has a dog in town and is incapable of getting it to the vet, there are veterinarians that will come to your house. 930 01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:07,300 Yes. 931 01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:09,300 You just have to do some locating. 932 01:00:09,300 --> 01:00:10,300 Go to them. 933 01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:11,300 Yeah. 934 01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:12,300 Locating and find that person. 935 01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:13,300 Yeah. 936 01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:15,650 Dr. Beebe used to do it. I don't know if he does anymore. 937 01:00:15,650 --> 01:00:20,650 You know, Greylock Animal would send it if you were going to have your dog euthanized. 938 01:00:20,650 --> 01:00:21,650 Yeah. 939 01:00:21,650 --> 01:00:26,030 So maybe when you wear the check-in they may use it more twice. 940 01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:31,030 I've used it too and then I see you got a shot for me too. It was bad. It was bad. 941 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:32,030 I don't feel it. 942 01:00:32,030 --> 01:00:33,030 Bad. 943 01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:34,030 I don't feel it. 944 01:00:34,030 --> 01:00:37,099 Yeah. Any other old business, Laurie? 945 01:00:37,099 --> 01:00:39,760 No. 946 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:40,760 New business? 947 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,760 No. 948 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:56,510 Okay. Let's go on to executive session. I make a motion to go into executive session for personnel matter and then for pending or probable civil litigation. 949 01:00:56,510 --> 01:00:57,579 Second. 950 01:00:57,579 --> 01:00:58,579 Second. 951 01:01:00,780 --> 01:01:01,780 Thank you, guys. 952 01:01:01,780 --> 01:01:02,780 Good night, all. 953 01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:05,329 Good night, all. Yeah. Okay.