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Okay, let's call the meeting to order.

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The United States of America, the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Welcome to a meeting of the Stanford Select Board.

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If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda, you may do so by addressing

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the chairperson and stating your name and address.

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You will notice that all our meetings are recorded, and this is to aid with the summarization

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of the meeting.

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The visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes

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per topic.

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Discussions will be held in a common, civilized manner and respectful of others.

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Select Board members present are Mike Dahl, Nancy Bishica, Doug Wright, John Dunn, Kirk

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Kamari.

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Will there be any adding of items or removing items from tonight's agenda?

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Just have new information.

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And will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order of items?

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Thank you.

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Good luck.

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And Jeff is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video.

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Hearing of visitors.

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Happy of visitors.

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If anybody noticed, there was an aspirin that had people for a few days this past week

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running down the property line.

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Almost two weeks ago, a school called Lori and Lori called me.

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The generator was running outside.

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A power company came down and found the form for the two people that are on the pole.

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Time Leo's memorial was burned.

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So they replaced the transformer, and it was still shorted out, and they tell them the

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wires for the outdoor lighting in the back that ran through the trees have been rubbed

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through.

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I know they've trimmed the trees.

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I don't know where they're going because it was down just a little west of where it

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has refilled.

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And it didn't interrupt the building at all.

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It didn't.

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So it's not perfect.

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It switches so clean.

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First thing I looked for when I drove down was to look and see the feet pulling.

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It's really hard to see.

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It's really hard to see.

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It's really hard to see.

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It's really hard to see.

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It's really hard to see.

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It's really hard to see.

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It's really hard to see.

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I'm getting an approval of reference and orders, regular meeting of June 5th.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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That's okay.

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I'm still on hearing with the jury.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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I didn't see your hand before.

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That's okay.

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I'm just checking to see if the procedural on that.

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I don't know how they're going to treat it, if they're going to treat it as it's legal

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that we have the meeting, or not.

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I don't know, but it's been advertised and going forward.

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We didn't check if the ELCC procedure was not followed.

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It is.

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I mean, who makes the ultimate decision on whether the meeting goes forward?

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Select board.

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We didn't.

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I mean, one of them is definitely invalid.

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It's way beyond 14 days.

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Right.

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Well, the procedure for the whole application was .

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We skipped protocol.

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I mean, we set precedent like that.

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Hold on.

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One of the things with a committee, you know, we have to have respect for the chair of the

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board and other things, but we should definitely at least attend a meeting, one of us, and bring

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that up.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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So, we've had that.

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There's other issues with it.

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There's conflict of interest involved in this.

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Sure.

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Like you said, the protocol was found and so on.

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I didn't know, myself, of the select board to stop it or not.

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We didn't.

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I mean, if they don't abide by that 14-day rule alone, hold on everybody.

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Oh, yeah.

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Because you can go back 20 years if you want to.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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That's not even my issue.

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My issue was ...

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It didn't go through.

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Yeah.

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You didn't have to go out.

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It didn't go through when the first protocol was not followed.

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The second line on that thing says the permit was denied.

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There was no permit.

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So how do you just jump to the DBA?

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That's my thing, and that's what I was trying to do.

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Every answer I've gotten back is, yeah.

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It's too bad that it was advertised.

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Well, Steph, go ahead.

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No, go ahead, finish.

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I just, I mean, I guess maybe somebody would look into the LCT.

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We're setting ourselves up.

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Hopefully it'll be just thrown out immediately.

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It won't. It won't be.

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It'd be a two-hour grandstand.

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Well, you could make an argument that three people should refuse themselves,

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and then they can't have a meeting.

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I mean, there's at least three people that are weighing the weeds on this.

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But you can't prove it.

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Yeah, yeah, I can.

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You can't. Oh, yeah.

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Well, the meeting shouldn't even go forward on that fact alone.

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They don't have a quorum.

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I know two of them.

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I mean, there's a lot of silent partners out there.

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I know two of them.

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Oh, I know three.

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I'm sorry.

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Yeah, I know two of them that ask.

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Yeah, that's, you know.

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Depends.

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Depends on who they are.

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You know, and so he's reviewed everything, and then at the end of the day,

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the select board, from legal standing, you guys do have the final say.

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It's like, as an executive director, I have the final say over our organization.

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I have committees.

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They never get the final say.

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They bring their findings to me, and I say, yes, no, and this, that.

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When is this meeting?

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25th next month.

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25th.

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I do think it feels really unfortunate, because there is certainly a better way, especially

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as I have jumped through all those happily, and we have gotten state feedback, and everything

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is exactly as it should be.

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I don't know all the legal ins and outs.

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And I'm not saying you're wrong.

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But as a decision maker, in our opinion, that's what we do.

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We look at things.

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I would like to recommend, and I don't know if the board wants to vote on it or not, at

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least tell the chair that we recommend it as cancer.

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I mean, I would be willing to go as far as we can possibly go.

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It's up to them.

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I don't think this is based on any type of, it's based more on hate or discrimination.

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Something that's just not right.

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Maybe so.

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But at least we know that protocol.

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And I don't want to get in on that one side or the other.

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I agree that there's some feelings involved here.

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But definitely protocol wasn't .

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And definitely, the time, not one of them has passed way beyond the time.

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So there's, this is wrong.

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It should be thrown out.

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Maybe it won't be.

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But if we're, and I don't know the answer.

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We should find the answer out.

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If we have the final say, I want this meeting to go forward, because I think it's wrong.

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Especially, I said this last meeting, I believe, that the one that has gone beyond the time

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period is a very dangerous path to go down.

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I mean, how many people out there haven't got permits for anything they've done since

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the beginning of the pandemic?

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I want to clarify that we didn't need one.

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It wasn't that I didn't apply.

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I did apply.

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The 14 days.

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And I respect for it all.

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We can come out of the woodwork and just say, I said this last meeting, too.

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We can just say, I want to argue.

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It has to go through protocol.

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It doesn't, you can't, I don't believe that we should just be able to go to the ZBA and

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call them up and say, I want a meeting.

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They just have one.

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Well, Kirk didn't get a permit 30 years ago.

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I want to have a meeting on it.

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Sure.

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I didn't.

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And again, I'm admitting that I don't know all.

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But I think it's wrong.

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And I, as an opinion.

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I definitely think it's wrong.

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And I think we should, at the very least, contact the board and tell them that this

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board feels that they should cancel.

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I'll be at the meeting.

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I'm going to try not to.

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I don't agree to that.

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I feel that they've got their own committee, their own chairman, their own committee.

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I understand.

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And say, hey, wait a minute.

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This, we can't do this.

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Hopefully that will happen.

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Explain to her that we're not in agreement with it and give her reasons why.

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And then we can discuss it.

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Well, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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And then we can discuss it.

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Okay.

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So, I would say, you know, contact them, email, letter, whatever you want to do.

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Tell them this board feels that it should not go forward.

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If you're not in agreement with that, that's fine.

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But I am sending a message.

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It's not about who it is.

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And you know, I understand if there is, there's feelings.

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There's, you know, there's heated feelings on both sides.

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Okay.

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in the aisle a judicial decision on who's right or wrong I'm looking at how the

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protocol the procedure didn't go through you know if if you are you know we've

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been in law enforcement you know when you're in law enforcement the police officer

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doesn't do his procedure right doesn't matter if the guy's guilty or not gets

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thrown out of court that's what's happening so that that's why I'm

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hesitant about doing that I just want to have my hand raised so and this I thought

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was different I don't you guys know and I don't mean any

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disrespect

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about this whatsoever but time and time again over the last six months you guys

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I'm in time again we've had the same exact conversation

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so I'm not saying to me as a board member I'm not gonna reach any other

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agency unless I get permission but not saying I don't mean this in a bad way

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guys have been back a lot yeah in the last six months right I will

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agree that new subject matter that we

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have we are

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not going to be talking about that I'm not going to be talking about that

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definitely uh finding ourselves in in new territory exactly you know the ethics community

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let me just ask what is the common denominator well common denominator to me is this smells

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exactly like the sun this smells like it's coming from the same toilet crap

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no i don't mean it i'm not specifically saying the name i'm saying we have a serious problem

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here in stanford we have a serious problem here and and we and you guys are our leaders

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are going to get sued you understand that we are going to get sued because we don't know what we're

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doing we're allowing individuals to go rogue in this town and we're not making the judicial

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decisions that you guys are governing or you guys are supposed to be doing and for that there's

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people

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here in town that are suffering for that i don't believe i'm sorry um i know that we're all going

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through right i am very pointedly and i'm happy to review it please look into know what you're

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so that tonight and i don't think and to jim's point i think like you mentioned

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people keep mentioning size and there are we're not on a side we're not against it

256
00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:30,349
just got here and we're just trying to do something right and good and um i'm not on the

257
00:17:30,349 --> 00:17:41,259
side like and i'm most of the time i just go blind so i was like what the heck and um so i just want

258
00:17:41,259 --> 00:17:48,619
to make that also really clear like my heels are not dug in on the side i'm happy to still be like

259
00:17:48,619 --> 00:17:55,900
you know open and doing cool stuff and good things and participating well and be a good citizen i think

260
00:17:56,059 --> 00:18:27,839
that's a really good thing about that um you know sometimes we're so

261
00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:54,680
I agree. I think that I agree with you that it should have been, we should have looked into it deeper. But I feel confident enough right now that both of these permits are null and void. I feel that the time limit was null and void. I don't need a lawyer to tell me. I'm confident in that.

262
00:18:54,680 --> 00:19:11,180
The second one, permit, it says that the permit was denied and there was no permit. No one asked for a permit. No one followed up. There was no permit. No permit was needed. It just went over.

263
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:20,009
So if someone came through you and you said no permit was needed, then there could be.

264
00:19:20,009 --> 00:19:29,329
If somebody came to me, do I say, please put it up?

265
00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:32,269
Without the flats, you have the papers.

266
00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:33,369
Yeah, no, no, that's.

267
00:19:33,609 --> 00:19:35,630
That's for the little houses.

268
00:19:35,710 --> 00:19:36,210
For the houses.

269
00:19:36,730 --> 00:19:37,750
I'm talking about.

270
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:39,029
Yeah, so for the church.

271
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:40,190
I think we're all in the church.

272
00:19:40,410 --> 00:19:41,210
Yeah, I am.

273
00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:47,000
It is a place of non-conditional use.

274
00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:48,799
It's always been.

275
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,500
Well, the word change in use isn't even in the bylaws, but the conditional use is there, correct?

276
00:19:54,519 --> 00:19:56,220
Conditional is, but it's always been a conditional use.

277
00:19:56,220 --> 00:19:56,799
And I agree.

278
00:19:57,339 --> 00:19:59,210
It's always been a conditional use.

279
00:19:59,210 --> 00:19:59,490
Sure.

280
00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:03,099
It's always been there.

281
00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:19,619
So it's not up to me to request, unless I'm 100% sure.

282
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,039
We're dead.

283
00:20:20,259 --> 00:20:23,839
So.

284
00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,599
Even from that respect, if you're like, hey, you know what?

285
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,059
It's a paper.

286
00:20:35,559 --> 00:20:37,259
Well, no, it won't make it go away.

287
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:44,299
It's such a precedent that if it then becomes, I would have to deny it because.

288
00:20:47,650 --> 00:20:48,549
Something that can't be.

289
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:49,250
Conditional use.

290
00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:55,450
And they would, over months and months.

291
00:21:04,339 --> 00:21:06,420
It shouldn't take months to get.

292
00:21:06,460 --> 00:21:06,940
It does.

293
00:21:07,460 --> 00:21:23,650
So, that being said, if we were to say we voted on it, and that chairman still has the

294
00:21:23,650 --> 00:21:28,640
meeting, uncharted waters.

295
00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:29,380
So.

296
00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:29,900
I don't know.

297
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:31,920
And do we have the right to say.

298
00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:33,900
You can't hold this meeting.

299
00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:35,200
I don't know if we have.

300
00:21:35,809 --> 00:21:37,309
It's your ultimate decision.

301
00:21:38,049 --> 00:21:38,210
Period.

302
00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:39,549
I don't think you have a right.

303
00:21:39,549 --> 00:21:39,829
However.

304
00:21:39,829 --> 00:21:40,829
I'm sorry.

305
00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:42,279
What's your name?

306
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:42,750
I'm sorry.

307
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:43,910
Christine Dober.

308
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,750
You can say to them, I don't agree with your decision.

309
00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:03,670
They can separate the meeting.

310
00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:12,420
So, I think that's a big difference is appointed.

311
00:22:14,619 --> 00:22:21,720
It's a long one.

312
00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:23,349
A while back.

313
00:22:23,650 --> 00:22:24,470
This is probably.

314
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,400
It's about the house.

315
00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:26,859
Four weeks.

316
00:22:27,299 --> 00:22:29,859
Two buildings up there without a permit.

317
00:22:30,539 --> 00:22:31,210
Well, no.

318
00:22:31,230 --> 00:22:32,470
They have the permit.

319
00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:38,380
They have the permit for the two buildings up on Klondike.

320
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:39,559
That was it.

321
00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:40,599
Yeah.

322
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:41,500
Yes.

323
00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:42,660
That's a notice.

324
00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:43,079
Yeah.

325
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:46,539
And the other one was change of use.

326
00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:49,839
Which the fire marshal actually verified was unnecessary.

327
00:22:50,579 --> 00:22:53,380
Or was it taking down the garage?

328
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,700
Was that included in that?

329
00:22:56,019 --> 00:22:57,140
I don't remember.

330
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,900
But even if it's taking down the garage, we filed paperwork for that.

331
00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:07,529
It's hard to solve this problem because all that stuff is irrelevant.

332
00:23:07,529 --> 00:23:11,869
Because Dave called them and he called me.

333
00:23:11,869 --> 00:23:21,650
You needed to file a notice that you were going to take this and you file it now.

334
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:22,529
So, it's done.

335
00:23:22,930 --> 00:23:24,529
With the fire marshal or with us?

336
00:23:24,529 --> 00:23:25,970
No, it's not with the fire marshal.

337
00:23:26,109 --> 00:23:30,420
It had to be with the.

338
00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:31,759
From the people that filed the complaint.

339
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:36,990
So, the very people that Dave was emailing and sending to everyone.

340
00:23:37,930 --> 00:23:39,990
Those very people called me.

341
00:23:40,779 --> 00:23:41,720
I talked with them.

342
00:23:42,259 --> 00:23:42,940
He said.

343
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:44,079
File this notice.

344
00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:45,119
I filed it.

345
00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:51,490
You know, there's at least a half a dozen people.

346
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:57,160
Buildings in town that I know were removed without these permits.

347
00:23:57,700 --> 00:23:59,000
And the one recently.

348
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,359
This has absolutely nothing to do with the fire marshal.

349
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,700
Even before yours, Pete.

350
00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:03,460
At least six or eight of them.

351
00:24:03,460 --> 00:24:05,740
But even if it.

352
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:06,980
I know.

353
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,660
We got to.

354
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,240
I know.

355
00:24:09,059 --> 00:24:11,400
But even if that's.

356
00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:13,819
It's been filed.

357
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:14,480
Yours is filed.

358
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,200
The bigger point is we got to get to the root of the business.

359
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,700
It's just.

360
00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:20,500
I'm just not going to say it.

361
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:21,200
It's just the abuse of power.

362
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,089
It's ridiculous.

363
00:24:23,089 --> 00:24:23,589
It's ridiculous.

364
00:24:23,589 --> 00:24:28,269
And at some point, we're going to have to have an executive session and discuss it.

365
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:29,690
It's got nothing to do with the permit.

366
00:24:29,849 --> 00:24:31,450
It's just going to be one thing after another.

367
00:24:34,619 --> 00:24:35,960
We are having a meeting.

368
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:38,440
Okay.

369
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:39,200
I'll wait.

370
00:24:39,339 --> 00:24:41,400
We'll have that last executive session.

371
00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:42,289
We'll talk about this.

372
00:24:42,289 --> 00:24:44,829
I mean, we'll solve this one thing just like we did with the sign.

373
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:45,930
And it'll be the next thing.

374
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:46,730
While we're here.

375
00:24:47,170 --> 00:24:50,450
So, while we're on the DBA meeting, how are we going to move forward?

376
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:54,109
We're going to have to put something in writing to give to the chair.

377
00:24:54,109 --> 00:24:54,670
That board.

378
00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:56,230
Stating how we feel.

379
00:24:57,009 --> 00:24:59,589
Evidence of why we feel this way.

380
00:25:00,490 --> 00:25:00,710
And then.

381
00:25:01,329 --> 00:25:02,849
And we don't agree with it.

382
00:25:02,930 --> 00:25:03,109
Yes.

383
00:25:03,109 --> 00:25:04,769
But we're not going to cancel it.

384
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:07,529
We don't agree with it based on these facts.

385
00:25:08,819 --> 00:25:12,440
And hopefully she agrees or disagrees.

386
00:25:12,619 --> 00:25:13,579
Well, I guess we'll find out.

387
00:25:14,289 --> 00:25:15,690
She is the chair of that board.

388
00:25:18,460 --> 00:25:19,079
I mean, we can.

389
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:20,700
Why can't we just.

390
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,980
There are meetings after the 20th.

391
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:28,039
Can we cancel it?

392
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:37,380
It's old school stuff.

393
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,059
Behind the door.

394
00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:38,740
Behind the back.

395
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,140
We're not a five woman in this town.

396
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,579
They've been in the executive session.

397
00:25:49,140 --> 00:25:54,640
I personally, right now, I would like to at least.

398
00:25:55,329 --> 00:25:58,130
At least reach out to the board member.

399
00:25:58,509 --> 00:26:00,690
And say, we feel as a board.

400
00:26:00,750 --> 00:26:06,710
In addition, if you guys, if I don't feel it's strong enough to vote on right now, I'm not.

401
00:26:09,420 --> 00:26:12,480
I mean, I hate to say it, but I get absolutely no faith in that board whatsoever.

402
00:26:12,859 --> 00:26:25,710
I personally feel, and this is a, as I don't know all the answers.

403
00:26:25,710 --> 00:26:32,200
So, but I do feel that both of these permits did not follow protocol.

404
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:38,069
Period and that's about as simple as it gets if you need to have a description of that.

405
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:57,470
No problem, I would like to make a motion that we at least send a email before the 25th to the chairman and let them know, let her know that we don't agree with it that this meeting should go forward.

406
00:26:58,069 --> 00:27:03,960
Because it did not follow protocol permit permit 1, what?

407
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,079
Beyond the days the time period and permit.

408
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:13,309
Permit to permit to never want to follow protocol.

409
00:27:13,309 --> 00:27:18,289
So that's, that's as far as.

410
00:27:18,289 --> 00:27:20,940
Yeah, it didn't have a permit because it wasn't.

411
00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:23,039
Right, there is no permit, no permit.

412
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:41,099
There is no permit to deny subject to, but that's, that's my, you can, but I did make a motion to second that motion.

413
00:27:41,099 --> 00:27:52,109
If that's, we're going to go as a border, if you would like to talk more about what's about, so you send a letter, an email to the chair.

414
00:27:52,109 --> 00:27:53,450
Yeah, at least a little part.

415
00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:53,950
No.

416
00:27:54,069 --> 00:28:29,900
Of the CBA stating our findings of that meeting that you got to agree with that all in favor or one of the CBA to we'll remember we're just sending a letter during the executive session.

417
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:57,259
Well, one thing, well, I guess I don't we have people in this town on this board right now and it doesn't matter we have people in this town to have sent me letters, emails talking about sides.

418
00:28:58,180 --> 00:28:58,240
Well, one thing, well, I guess I don't we have people in this town on this board right now and it doesn't matter we have people in this town to have sent me letters, emails talking about sides.

419
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,809
And I'm getting pissed off.

420
00:29:03,809 --> 00:29:21,400
This time, 10 years ago, we got along and now there are just nitpicking and who's on whose side and they literally came out and said to me, hey, I hear you're on the other side.

421
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:27,319
I'm going to put that right out here right now to you and you and everybody else in this town.

422
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:31,660
I don't have a side and follow protocol.

423
00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:35,930
I swore to the Constitution and there's no side.

424
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:37,230
This is ridiculous.

425
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:39,069
And, you know, Jim, you're right.

426
00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:41,500
It is a hard job and we don't know everything.

427
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:55,509
You know what? I'd like to learn more, but the bottom line is there is no side and she has just as much right as you and me and I'm going to start making more motions.

428
00:29:55,509 --> 00:29:56,609
Yeah, yeah.

429
00:29:56,609 --> 00:29:58,640
Enough is enough.

430
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:06,519
I wrote it out.

431
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:14,119
Reading an approval of records and orders.

432
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:15,119
Oh, are you a visitor?

433
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:21,289
OK, yeah, I.

434
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:22,789
So my name is Christine Dover.

435
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:23,589
I live on.

436
00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:25,500
East Road 164.

437
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:38,890
They just repainted the other day, which which was nice, except that when they did the road, they raised it by my driveway.

438
00:30:38,890 --> 00:30:47,049
Sorry, I'm trying to get where my driveway was totally flush with the road.

439
00:30:47,049 --> 00:30:51,869
My driveway is now this much lower than the road.

440
00:30:51,869 --> 00:30:55,549
There's the stick to show you that I did not did not make it up.

441
00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:57,910
I called the highway department. They came in.

442
00:30:57,910 --> 00:31:02,940
They put down dirt, which is fine.

443
00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:08,839
It allows me to get my car in and out, but dirt is going to wash away pretty friggin quickly.

444
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:26,470
I need something a little more permanent and because of the drop off and not knowing that the drop off was there because I come down Henderson Road on East Road when I come home and swing.

445
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:27,839
In left.

446
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:28,640
I.

447
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:40,839
not see the drop and so i have this crack now in my bumper and this crack in my bumper and

448
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,599
you can't really and then i took pictures of other driveways to show you all that

449
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:51,240
they didn't raise that i mean it looks like it's just a two inch rolled overlay so why they raised

450
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:57,940
up this much of my driveway i have no idea all the rest were flush and blended nicely

451
00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:08,559
so i'm looking for some sort of remediation can you tell me okay you must be new in town

452
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:13,160
and you've got to go back a generation for a house i do um so i'm assuming you know where

453
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:19,240
justin henderson lives yeah i live across the street from him okay one six two five so right

454
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:26,440
by the beaver pond it's the yellow house way back yeah kind of a longer driveway it's not really

455
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:32,599
long compared to my one in florida this one's pretty short and easy to maintain um but yeah

456
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:39,720
it's it's pretty bad um like i said don't necessarily need a decision tonight i'd surely

457
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:46,690
wait two weeks for you guys to do some more discussion and maybe come with a problem with

458
00:32:46,690 --> 00:32:52,609
the problem well unfortunately we just heard about it tonight right i know that and the other thing

459
00:32:52,609 --> 00:32:57,170
is our road commissioner is not here so and like i said they were totally responsive when i called

460
00:32:57,170 --> 00:33:01,650
him he was over there within an hour and put the dirt down so that i could get my car oh that's

461
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:02,849
the other thing is my car is only going to be here for a couple of weeks and i'm going to have to

462
00:33:02,849 --> 00:33:13,089
get that out of the small doctor to probably taste it i recently got a four inch clearance i drive a

463
00:33:13,089 --> 00:33:20,519
kia k5 so you know grab one of the contractors with something other than what this a quality

464
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:29,759
you know they go after i'm pretty sure they did it i'm trying to hurry up get home probably

465
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:35,329
but i'm sure if we reached out to them they probably found somebody out to

466
00:33:35,329 --> 00:33:39,250
and because the other thing and because now i'm not sure if the pitch

467
00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:41,230
I'm not mistaken, you're at like a corner there.

468
00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:41,970
I am right on the corner.

469
00:33:41,970 --> 00:33:44,289
So they probably did that so the water would go inside.

470
00:33:44,289 --> 00:33:45,589
Well, that's what I'm worried about.

471
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:53,460
Is the water going to come totally across the way and make it a bigger mess?

472
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:55,839
I don't know.

473
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:58,140
I just need it fixed better than what it is.

474
00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:00,380
It's something we're probably going to have to talk to Dave about.

475
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:03,940
And if Dave talked to Warner Brothers or Allstate.

476
00:34:04,779 --> 00:34:06,220
I think it was Warner that did it.

477
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:07,940
Yeah, that's the same.

478
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,440
I'm not sure.

479
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,980
No, I think it was just.

480
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:14,739
I think they were just doing a two-inch, like a two-inch overlay.

481
00:34:14,739 --> 00:34:19,099
Yeah, because there was no, there was no scarification.

482
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,380
There was no reclamation.

483
00:34:20,860 --> 00:34:22,940
There was no, there was no nothing.

484
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:26,489
It was just putting that down and then they were kind of done.

485
00:34:26,769 --> 00:34:31,320
So I really think it was just like a two-inch overlay.

486
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,139
That's more than two inches there.

487
00:34:34,460 --> 00:34:36,179
Just on mine.

488
00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:38,179
But again, I think it's because of the corner.

489
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,900
I think it was the pitch of the road.

490
00:34:40,059 --> 00:34:44,260
I think it was them trying to get the water away from and drain.

491
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,300
Maybe better than what it was.

492
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,880
You don't compromise the road when the winter comes and it starts popping because of the water getting under it.

493
00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:54,300
I really, I don't know.

494
00:34:54,579 --> 00:34:55,900
But we'll have to talk to Dave.

495
00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:57,460
Maybe a little better, please.

496
00:34:58,219 --> 00:35:00,179
It is a significant amount.

497
00:35:03,610 --> 00:35:05,329
Dave even said that when he came.

498
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:06,269
After that would be.

499
00:35:12,409 --> 00:35:13,449
When did you call Dave?

500
00:35:14,059 --> 00:35:14,539
Yesterday.

501
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:14,980
Yesterday.

502
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,599
Because they did it, they did it Wednesday morning.

503
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,739
So when I came home Wednesday night, it was kind of gone.

504
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,300
I didn't see it.

505
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,179
Like I said, then they did the image to my car.

506
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,659
So then yesterday when I was coming home, I made sure I stopped and took pictures of everything.

507
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,579
This is all I could find to measure with because my husband was in the home.

508
00:35:31,139 --> 00:35:32,960
So I couldn't find a measuring tape.

509
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:36,309
It is like 16 inches.

510
00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:37,989
Yeah, it's over a foot actually.

511
00:35:38,730 --> 00:35:42,460
And then tonight, I work in Hinsdale.

512
00:35:42,659 --> 00:35:44,199
So I had to come right here.

513
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,639
So I didn't have time to do anything better.

514
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,460
But I can certainly like email pictures if you want.

515
00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:51,039
You can certainly go by my house and look.

516
00:35:51,139 --> 00:35:54,159
My car still doesn't want to go and look at the cracked bumper and that.

517
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,139
I go.

518
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,119
But we'll have to talk to Dave.

519
00:35:58,219 --> 00:35:58,519
Right.

520
00:36:00,610 --> 00:36:00,909
Okay.

521
00:36:00,989 --> 00:36:01,650
Something here.

522
00:36:02,449 --> 00:36:02,690
Okay.

523
00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:06,500
But I'm going to just go back to my car.

524
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:14,039
I think there's a pretty significant image to the shield inside.

525
00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:15,599
And so that came loose.

526
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:16,880
I was driving to work this morning.

527
00:36:17,059 --> 00:36:18,260
It was flapping all over the place.

528
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,119
Now it's kind of shredded.

529
00:36:24,889 --> 00:36:27,429
So should I come back to the next meeting?

530
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:30,949
I think we could have Lori call.

531
00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:32,429
Yeah.

532
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:35,659
We can have Lori call you and let you know.

533
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,079
Okay.

534
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:48,780
I'm sorry that I.

535
00:36:48,860 --> 00:36:49,119
Sorry.

536
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:58,139
Any other hearing of visitors?

537
00:37:00,730 --> 00:37:04,550
Reading and approval of records and orders of June 5th.

538
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:05,829
Motion to approve.

539
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,000
All in favor?

540
00:37:09,539 --> 00:37:14,679
Unfortunately, Dave is not here tonight.

541
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,619
And I have nothing on recycling.

542
00:37:27,769 --> 00:37:29,510
Adoption of zoning bylaws.

543
00:37:30,579 --> 00:37:34,940
We had a public hearing last week on the zoning bylaws.

544
00:37:36,789 --> 00:37:38,400
A couple visitors.

545
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:45,530
There's no disagreement with what was.

546
00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:47,269
Happening with the zoning bylaws.

547
00:37:47,269 --> 00:37:51,570
So can I have a motion that we approve them as presented?

548
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:54,230
All in favor?

549
00:37:54,429 --> 00:37:54,829
Aye.

550
00:37:55,869 --> 00:37:58,800
Sign them.

551
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:00,570
Yes.

552
00:38:00,889 --> 00:38:03,010
They will not be effective until when?

553
00:38:04,579 --> 00:38:05,179
August.

554
00:38:05,769 --> 00:38:06,610
Sometime in July.

555
00:38:14,010 --> 00:38:14,590
March 10th.

556
00:38:35,539 --> 00:38:56,500
Hey, this is a bylaws.

557
00:38:56,739 --> 00:39:21,030
So I think it would be a good idea that next year because they won't let you go.

558
00:39:21,130 --> 00:39:21,809
We probably wouldn't.

559
00:39:33,449 --> 00:39:37,010
We're ready to get everything but sign it.

560
00:39:37,309 --> 00:39:37,949
Exactly.

561
00:39:40,699 --> 00:39:41,099
But they.

562
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:44,420
I don't.

563
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:45,039
We had the meeting.

564
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:46,159
On June 12th.

565
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:54,960
But I think the planning commission is more hands on this time than they were before.

566
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,599
And they'll be.

567
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,179
Yeah.

568
00:39:56,599 --> 00:40:05,219
Being able to say what they want to see in the plan and not what VCRC wants to see in it.

569
00:40:05,489 --> 00:40:06,849
We're very hands on.

570
00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:08,699
Unfortunately, very restricted.

571
00:40:09,889 --> 00:40:10,110
Yeah.

572
00:40:13,090 --> 00:40:15,530
Well, you have to follow the state law, but you could.

573
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,280
Most of it is cookie cutters.

574
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Most of it is cookie cutter stuff.

575
00:40:20,420 --> 00:40:22,559
80% of the town plan.

576
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:24,179
It's probably cookie cutter in there.

577
00:40:24,539 --> 00:40:25,260
And then you just said.

578
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:37,780
Review tax bill insert.

579
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:43,679
Lori's getting prepared to send out tax bills.

580
00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:56,480
Well, I don't know if you read the Deerfield Valley News, but the school wants 30% or 50% right away.

581
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,449
Right away.

582
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:00,920
All these.

583
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,699
Well, that's what I was saying.

584
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,760
Why do we have to.

585
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,420
I guess everybody's just.

586
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:19,400
It'd be better if.

587
00:41:19,780 --> 00:41:21,300
What if we don't?

588
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:21,940
What's the.

589
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:23,179
What's going to happen?

590
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:23,800
Sorry.

591
00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:30,219
But wouldn't it be better to let us all go on our same schedule and stagger their income?

592
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,579
They make us borrow.

593
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:35,980
Correct.

594
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:43,909
They just borrow until we give them the money.

595
00:41:43,949 --> 00:41:47,329
But they weren't quite sure if they have the power to borrow.

596
00:41:47,610 --> 00:41:51,449
If the supervisory union has the power to borrow.

597
00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:54,159
If they have the power to take.

598
00:41:54,619 --> 00:41:54,820
Yeah.

599
00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:57,820
The only thing they can do is vote on it and give themselves the power.

600
00:42:01,139 --> 00:42:03,639
Would you give them the power if you were them?

601
00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:05,239
Well, not as well.

602
00:42:05,579 --> 00:42:08,179
I got to give the town the loan anyway.

603
00:42:08,179 --> 00:42:14,019
So that's the history of financial.

604
00:42:14,019 --> 00:42:14,500
Right.

605
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:14,800
Yeah.

606
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,019
Yeah.

607
00:42:15,019 --> 00:42:15,099
Yeah.

608
00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:15,159
Yeah.

609
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:15,260
Yeah.

610
00:42:15,260 --> 00:42:15,579
Yeah.

611
00:42:15,579 --> 00:42:15,760
Yeah.

612
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,559
Well, then we should just fire along, get rid of them.

613
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,099
Yeah.

614
00:42:22,099 --> 00:42:27,360
So you made you make a decision on that tonight to send it to you and get you thinking about it.

615
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:40,900
Well, I like the part where you put in the tax bill in your paying your Stanford property tax bill.

616
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,679
Please keep your tax bill.

617
00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:50,539
And I mean, what they've always said to me was.

618
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,840
Well, Nancy, you kept better records than me.

619
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:54,179
Well, keep your tax bill.

620
00:42:55,309 --> 00:42:57,389
It's only a few months.

621
00:42:57,429 --> 00:42:58,050
You have to keep it.

622
00:42:58,050 --> 00:42:59,050
You go to your auditor.

623
00:42:59,530 --> 00:43:00,090
Reminders.

624
00:43:01,530 --> 00:43:02,570
Homestead declaration.

625
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:12,780
If you don't file your homestead declaration and you file it late, you get a late fee from the state.

626
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Sends it to Lori.

627
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:16,039
Lori's got to do a revised bill.

628
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,880
Send it out.

629
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:21,940
Would you say somebody just got a $200 bill for filing your homestead late?

630
00:43:22,179 --> 00:43:22,480
Saying.

631
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,119
I'm a resident.

632
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:28,949
Not mine.

633
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:31,619
It's a.

634
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,679
One time.

635
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:36,250
And then it should stay like that.

636
00:43:36,250 --> 00:43:53,829
I think you could take out the picture of household hazardous waste and make stuff smaller.

637
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:07,719
And like you said, people, I mean, this household hazardous waste and the electronic waste,

638
00:44:07,860 --> 00:44:12,659
people that come here to buy their recycling cart, it's already on that slip.

639
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:17,519
So fit in what you can.

640
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,739
Probably.

641
00:44:19,739 --> 00:44:22,099
It could make the first page.

642
00:44:22,099 --> 00:44:26,019
The state of Vermont is creating a free communication network called Vermont Alert.

643
00:44:26,539 --> 00:44:28,940
Maybe that could just go one, two, three.

644
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,420
9-1-1 house numbers need to be visible.

645
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:46,059
Do they contact you and then you send them on to Bill or should they contact Bill immediately or save you from getting the phone call first?

646
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:48,400
Most of the time it happens.

647
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,329
It goes to Deb?

648
00:44:55,690 --> 00:45:00,619
I don't know if that's the right way to tell.

649
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:03,179
9-1-1 numbers.

650
00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:10,099
And you tell them to call Lori or Bill?

651
00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:12,019
Well, Bill and I call.

652
00:45:12,260 --> 00:45:12,559
Okay.

653
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:13,360
Okay.

654
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,760
I just didn't call you directly.

655
00:45:18,980 --> 00:45:19,460
Okay.

656
00:45:19,539 --> 00:45:21,380
But then Lori has sent them.

657
00:45:21,619 --> 00:45:24,369
Okay.

658
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:29,099
So you send them to Bill, Lori sends them to Bill.

659
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,079
I was wondering where they come from.

660
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:31,880
I want one now.

661
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:34,739
Yeah, it's 16 bucks.

662
00:45:35,059 --> 00:45:36,940
Probably we could take the leaves out.

663
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:37,719
Leaves are coming.

664
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:39,079
Fall is coming.

665
00:45:39,260 --> 00:45:42,070
Don't break the leaves into the roadway.

666
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,659
What, the 9-1-1 number?

667
00:45:49,659 --> 00:45:49,860
Yeah.

668
00:45:50,619 --> 00:45:58,170
There's a whole set of rules that Lori sends out to the person requesting a new 9-1-1 number.

669
00:45:59,309 --> 00:46:03,030
If you were just building a house, you needed the 9-1-1 number.

670
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:17,389
Indication, state statute.

671
00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:29,679
It says put it on your house and use the visible defense.

672
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,079
Well, your house isn't far away from the road.

673
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:33,159
I think it's visible.

674
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:42,570
I don't think there is a height.

675
00:46:42,769 --> 00:46:44,449
I don't think there was a height.

676
00:46:44,449 --> 00:46:46,010
There's no height requirement.

677
00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:47,949
There's no height to the sign.

678
00:46:48,210 --> 00:46:51,289
There's a requirement for the height of the letters, the numbers.

679
00:46:51,409 --> 00:46:51,630
Right.

680
00:46:52,699 --> 00:46:53,460
And mine is up.

681
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,059
I'll confess right now.

682
00:46:56,139 --> 00:46:57,119
I don't have one.

683
00:46:57,340 --> 00:46:57,679
Sorry, Bill.

684
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,219
In my defense, I think about it a lot.

685
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:03,320
I'll tell you.

686
00:47:03,579 --> 00:47:04,159
That's a start.

687
00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:05,219
But I'm not alone.

688
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,519
There's a lot.

689
00:47:08,619 --> 00:47:09,880
I brought it up at last meeting.

690
00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:10,559
There's a lot.

691
00:47:11,159 --> 00:47:13,340
I wouldn't have thought it was nonprofit to start all this.

692
00:47:14,059 --> 00:47:15,519
It's on your mailbox, I guess.

693
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:16,019
Is it mandated?

694
00:47:16,980 --> 00:47:17,800
Is it mandated?

695
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:18,420
Yes.

696
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:19,420
Is it mandated?

697
00:47:19,780 --> 00:47:20,719
The green one?

698
00:47:20,739 --> 00:47:21,219
What's the penalty?

699
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:21,699
No, no, no.

700
00:47:21,699 --> 00:47:22,340
No, no.

701
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:23,119
It's a 9-1-1.

702
00:47:23,179 --> 00:47:24,050
Oh, the number.

703
00:47:25,219 --> 00:47:27,619
You can have fancy numbers or any kind.

704
00:47:27,659 --> 00:47:29,019
Oh, I got a number.

705
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,929
I just don't.

706
00:47:30,929 --> 00:47:31,329
No.

707
00:47:32,090 --> 00:47:32,670
I don't either.

708
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:36,090
It's just got to be bigger.

709
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:37,340
Yeah.

710
00:47:37,420 --> 00:47:37,579
Right.

711
00:47:37,780 --> 00:47:38,219
It's got to be bigger.

712
00:47:38,219 --> 00:47:38,659
It's got to be bigger.

713
00:47:38,659 --> 00:47:39,599
It's got to be bigger.

714
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:40,360
It's got to be closer.

715
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:41,440
It's got to get there.

716
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:46,840
They specify three-inch reflective letters on a contrasting background.

717
00:47:49,170 --> 00:47:50,530
I mean, Reedsboro has blue.

718
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:52,130
Stanford has green.

719
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,340
That's how no one else would want it.

720
00:47:54,340 --> 00:47:55,199
When's the best time to come up?

721
00:47:55,260 --> 00:47:55,699
Monday meeting?

722
00:47:56,739 --> 00:47:57,079
What, sir?

723
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,460
When's the best time to come to the fire office on Monday meeting?

724
00:48:02,329 --> 00:48:02,650
Yeah.

725
00:48:02,670 --> 00:48:04,329
I don't know if we used to have that.

726
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:05,230
I'll let it go.

727
00:48:05,309 --> 00:48:06,650
I just got a hunch that I'm going to come.

728
00:48:09,010 --> 00:48:09,630
Lori has a question.

729
00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:09,750
No.

730
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:10,550
What do you think?

731
00:48:10,969 --> 00:48:13,449
You think if you're a fire worker, I just got to bring you to the fire department.

732
00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:19,960
If you want to come up on Monday night, you've got lots of blank forms.

733
00:48:20,099 --> 00:48:21,280
First you call us Don.

734
00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:25,460
Now you call me Lisa.

735
00:48:28,409 --> 00:48:29,309
We're good now.

736
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:47,400
We brought her up weeks ago and mentioned it because she doesn't like to know what's going on.

737
00:48:48,980 --> 00:48:53,570
And she brought back to me to remember that we did two years in a row.

738
00:48:53,989 --> 00:48:55,570
She and I drove up and down.

739
00:48:55,570 --> 00:49:04,440
We drove up and down every road in town, cited it against the 9-1-1 listing so that we could identify as best we can for those that are not.

740
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,969
And then we sent out notices to those people twice.

741
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:17,190
And if we want to try and enforce it, you can write one of your traffic tickets for $50.

742
00:49:18,090 --> 00:49:19,280
I'd write one myself.

743
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:20,559
Good.

744
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:30,199
You know what I think we should do is tie a note around a rock and throw it back.

745
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:31,199
If something happens.

746
00:49:31,940 --> 00:49:33,679
If something happens to his window.

747
00:49:37,019 --> 00:49:38,860
We've got something to go on here.

748
00:49:40,369 --> 00:49:46,989
And I think if you put too many papers in there.

749
00:49:50,449 --> 00:49:55,409
I would try to put that tax one on the front page.

750
00:49:56,940 --> 00:49:58,059
The tax one on the front page?

751
00:49:58,059 --> 00:50:02,340
I would try to put the tax one on the front page because I bet 50% of people are going to be like, oh.

752
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:04,849
But they're like, oh, taxes?

753
00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:07,920
Ooh, that's coming out of my pocket.

754
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:09,420
I better pay attention to this.

755
00:50:09,619 --> 00:50:10,539
And maybe they'll read it.

756
00:50:10,539 --> 00:50:23,000
So we review the tax.

757
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,860
We'll insert and kind of cover the 9-1-1 house numbers.

758
00:50:27,619 --> 00:50:29,119
Like Lisa said, alpha, more.

759
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:30,679
Not going to send them out.

760
00:50:35,619 --> 00:50:37,820
Ethics Commission, ethics ordinance.

761
00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:51,630
So last time we learned that the state of Vermont is not going to be backed out of helping us or reviewing the complaints.

762
00:50:51,630 --> 00:50:54,550
So Doug, Lori, and I met the other day.

763
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:59,869
And we took that verbiage out of the Code of Ethics investigation and enforcement.

764
00:50:59,969 --> 00:51:06,409
And we have to come first to town, the Select Board, and how we are going to handle this.

765
00:51:06,409 --> 00:51:08,510
There's a form attached.

766
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,380
And there's several questions we have to answer there.

767
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:22,500
And then the Select Board and the, comes to the Select Board.

768
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,389
And then we designate someone from the pool to investigate.

769
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:32,750
Both sides of the, what's that company?

770
00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:33,190
Yep.

771
00:51:33,250 --> 00:51:33,570
We did?

772
00:51:34,369 --> 00:51:40,110
Sign up.

773
00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:41,250
Just let Lori know.

774
00:51:41,489 --> 00:51:56,460
We have five or six now that we can choose from, and like we discussed, we're not sure

775
00:51:56,460 --> 00:52:01,960
how we're going to pick from the pool, if it's going to be picked from a hat or, we

776
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,960
don't know that yet.

777
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,079
We haven't figured it out.

778
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:09,239
Well, if you actually can't investigate your own thing, then you can't be cooking

779
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,239
the hat.

780
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,239
Did we do that?

781
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,239
Well, no, we talked about it.

782
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,239
What we talked about was just putting the names of the people that are on it, you know,

783
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,239
the volunteers, just picking them.

784
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:24,239
The number one will be the person that does the first investigation, number two will be

785
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:29,239
the second, and as we said, if there's some kind of a conflict or something, then we just

786
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,360
move this way.

787
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:41,610
I think it's over here.

788
00:52:41,610 --> 00:52:42,610
Each investigation, yeah.

789
00:52:42,610 --> 00:52:45,610
They're going to gather the facts, and then the board will...

790
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:56,159
Because I think one person can handle it.

791
00:52:56,159 --> 00:53:02,960
One person can basically, what you need to do is talk to them, complain it, get us to

792
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:23,960
talk to them.

793
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,960
No, I think, you know, I disagree with it.

794
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,960
I think one person can handle it.

795
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Because I think one person can handle it.

796
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,960
You'll handle it.

797
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,519
No.

798
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:33,519
But this one...

799
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:34,519
So that's all I'm saying.

800
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:35,519
We discussed this back and forth, and it's all new.

801
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:41,250
We don't know.

802
00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:42,250
Well, coming from a couple of people that have been involved in major crimes, I would

803
00:53:42,250 --> 00:53:43,250
think, and I know this is not major crimes, but personal conclusions.

804
00:53:43,250 --> 00:54:11,389
No matter what the list is, if so and so is up there, there's some kind of, you know,

805
00:54:11,389 --> 00:54:12,389
history here at Stanford.

806
00:54:12,389 --> 00:54:13,389
So, having a couple of people, you know, come in and talk to them, and then you can

807
00:54:13,389 --> 00:54:19,119
have a couple of people doing it, or even three people, at least you have an odd number.

808
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:23,119
You've got somebody to bounce it off, and make a decision, and bring it to the board.

809
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:27,719
You've got three decisions, maybe, that the board can decide.

810
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,719
Not just one.

811
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:29,920
What was the...

812
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,920
That's the point.

813
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,920
Excuse me.

814
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:37,400
I was going to say, that's the point, is that the job you guys are doing is collecting

815
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,400
the information.

816
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,579
Bring the information to the board, and we will use your information to make the decision.

817
00:54:44,579 --> 00:54:48,440
So, if the job is really not a commission...

818
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,599
Right.

819
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,039
Isn't that more than...

820
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:52,039
Like, isn't that similar to, like, the committee?

821
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:56,019
No.

822
00:54:56,019 --> 00:54:57,019
I think the commission that you're talking about, there was a state commission.

823
00:54:57,019 --> 00:54:58,019
And they...

824
00:54:58,019 --> 00:54:59,019
The way it was supposed to be, when they set it up, was that there was a question.

825
00:54:59,019 --> 00:55:00,019
We'd gather the information.

826
00:55:00,019 --> 00:55:01,369
There was a liaison.

827
00:55:01,369 --> 00:55:02,369
We'd send it up to the state, and they would send back their recommendations.

828
00:55:02,369 --> 00:55:03,369
It's like an unfunded mandate.

829
00:55:03,369 --> 00:55:04,369
All of a sudden, they didn't have the people to do it, so they just pull it so it's back

830
00:55:04,369 --> 00:55:05,369
an hour last.

831
00:55:05,369 --> 00:55:06,369
As far as a commission, no.

832
00:55:06,369 --> 00:55:07,369
This is a...

833
00:55:07,369 --> 00:55:08,369
This is a commission.

834
00:55:08,369 --> 00:55:09,369
This is a commission.

835
00:55:09,369 --> 00:55:10,369
This is a commission.

836
00:55:10,369 --> 00:55:11,369
This is a commission.

837
00:55:11,369 --> 00:55:12,369
This is a commission.

838
00:55:12,369 --> 00:55:14,329
This is a commission.

839
00:55:14,329 --> 00:55:15,329
This is a commission.

840
00:55:15,329 --> 00:55:16,329
No, I understand.

841
00:55:16,329 --> 00:55:17,329
They didn't say anything about it.

842
00:55:17,329 --> 00:55:18,329
They didn't have anything there.

843
00:55:18,329 --> 00:55:19,329
The town, according to everything I read, was a town that developed their own investigative

844
00:55:19,329 --> 00:55:20,329
time zone.

845
00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:22,769
I'm a little confused on this because maybe you guys...

846
00:55:22,769 --> 00:55:23,769
Somebody can explain this to me.

847
00:55:23,769 --> 00:56:09,989
But we have a designated liaison, somebody that acts as a point of contact between the

848
00:56:09,989 --> 00:56:13,639
garrison and the CDC.

849
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:21,679
And they go to the DCA too, and they're going to make sure that their information is going

850
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:26,300
complainant for the Select Board and Vermont State Ethics Commission and at

851
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:30,099
the same time we have a group of individuals what are the group of

852
00:56:30,099 --> 00:56:39,809
individuals doing if we have a one person that's well the reason we kept it

853
00:56:39,809 --> 00:56:47,289
in there was in case they change your mind so it's not one person it is a

854
00:56:47,289 --> 00:57:04,619
group of people so instead of person it should be persons isn't that what we

855
00:57:04,619 --> 00:57:31,469
are doing though you have a group of all these people we're still only picking one person

856
00:57:31,469 --> 00:58:07,670
just pretty much you're supposed to I'm sorry go ahead I'm just going to say

857
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:12,880
one person is going to make a decision what they're going to do is collect the

858
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,960
facts and bring it to us it's going to be the Select Board

859
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:24,260
what whether it should be one person or not

860
00:58:24,260 --> 00:58:30,789
when we appointed him as the designated liaison I was the liaison until the

861
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:31,269
statement

862
00:58:31,269 --> 00:59:14,099
you guys are the ultimate judges no question you guys are going to make the

863
00:59:14,099 --> 00:59:18,860
decision but you can't just send one person to do that and then that one

864
00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:19,460
bias

865
00:59:19,460 --> 00:59:24,659
person that comes to the court and said this is what I believe

866
00:59:24,659 --> 00:59:27,809
he shouldn't have the same

867
00:59:27,809 --> 00:59:30,309
but then you're assuming people are going to be biased

868
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:33,289
this is not that this is not this big of a thing

869
00:59:33,289 --> 00:59:34,789
that's why there's a jury

870
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:38,369
collect the information give us the information give us the

871
00:59:38,369 --> 00:59:40,769
information and we'll decide

872
00:59:40,769 --> 00:59:43,269
it's a it is a big thing so

873
00:59:43,469 --> 00:59:44,869
it's not a complicated one

874
00:59:44,869 --> 00:59:47,269
oh no this is not complicated at all

875
00:59:47,269 --> 00:59:50,309
so we have a complaint that you did something wrong

876
00:59:50,710 --> 01:00:02,710
So here comes the complaint. I mean, you don't want certain people interviewing you or investigating you.

877
01:00:02,929 --> 01:00:12,250
You'd rather have three or four people that might have different ideas and say, okay, this one has a little more compassion for one thing or the other.

878
01:00:12,250 --> 01:00:22,730
They're going to bring back a collective of information to the board and let you guys decide of what the commission or the group has decided.

879
01:00:22,849 --> 01:00:26,980
I'm not going to disagree with that.

880
01:00:28,139 --> 01:00:30,380
There's one step in between, though.

881
01:00:31,409 --> 01:00:43,510
All right, one person investigates, gathers the facts, brings them to the board, but then we also meet with the complainant and whoever the complaint is against.

882
01:00:43,730 --> 01:00:46,949
We will be meeting with them, too, to get their sides.

883
01:00:59,550 --> 01:01:00,809
We're just collecting the same.

884
01:01:01,369 --> 01:01:06,059
Thank you.

885
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:10,500
It would be great if we only heard instead of...

886
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:21,590
Instead of having to listen to three different people at one time, it would be great to just have the person on it, and then maybe the three or four people below the lead person gives the lead person all the advice.

887
01:01:21,590 --> 01:01:25,710
And we just hear from that one.

888
01:01:27,219 --> 01:01:30,159
We got just five or six.

889
01:01:31,019 --> 01:01:40,719
So you pick three people, they vote on who they want, you pick them, what's the resistance to having more?

890
01:01:42,250 --> 01:01:45,750
It's volunteer, nobody's getting paid, why would I have more?

891
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:51,590
I think there's also more conflict, more making.

892
01:01:51,989 --> 01:01:53,789
I think there's a bigger deal out of this than I'd like to see.

893
01:01:53,789 --> 01:01:54,289
But you're just...

894
01:01:54,289 --> 01:02:15,619
Three people could be just as prejudiced as one.

895
01:02:15,619 --> 01:02:17,639
No, you know what?

896
01:02:18,059 --> 01:02:19,420
I've just stated my...

897
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:22,849
So, here we go.

898
01:02:23,090 --> 01:02:24,190
This is only the...

899
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:26,130
This is only a draft.

900
01:02:26,349 --> 01:02:33,380
I mean, it's just information that's going on, finding numbers.

901
01:02:33,619 --> 01:02:34,579
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to understand.

902
01:02:34,659 --> 01:02:39,239
Why do we have so many people in our pool that we're only going to utilize?

903
01:02:43,090 --> 01:02:43,889
What's that, Kirk?

904
01:02:44,030 --> 01:02:45,429
How did we come to this conclusion?

905
01:02:45,429 --> 01:02:47,320
Well, this is only...

906
01:02:47,460 --> 01:02:47,760
This is only a draft.

907
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,599
I mean, you guys can look it over and...

908
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:51,530
I'll decide that anyway.

909
01:02:51,530 --> 01:02:54,349
If you want to decide, if you want to change it, this is...

910
01:02:54,349 --> 01:02:56,190
This is not set in stone.

911
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:07,940
I'm here.

912
01:03:08,619 --> 01:03:09,420
This is a case...

913
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:10,300
You scared me, man.

914
01:03:10,460 --> 01:03:11,579
I was going to shoot back.

915
01:03:12,099 --> 01:03:13,280
It's a little uncomfortable now.

916
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:28,460
I don't disagree.

917
01:03:28,579 --> 01:03:29,119
It's not pertinent.

918
01:03:29,219 --> 01:03:30,059
I need to have three.

919
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:36,449
I'd make a motion if I need to to have three people.

920
01:03:36,449 --> 01:03:37,510
Well, you don't have to make a motion.

921
01:03:37,590 --> 01:03:39,429
I mean, this was just a draft that...

922
01:03:39,429 --> 01:03:41,429
We can just change it and edit it.

923
01:03:41,530 --> 01:03:41,989
Change it.

924
01:03:42,070 --> 01:03:46,630
Laurie can change it, send it to us again, and make whatever changes you want in it.

925
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:47,809
This is our ordinance.

926
01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:55,559
And what else did you guys see in there?

927
01:03:55,619 --> 01:03:56,920
We sent it to...

928
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,380
Laurie sent it the other day.

929
01:04:06,349 --> 01:04:10,460
Designate a person, three persons?

930
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:17,300
Just change the persons, and then figure out how many...

931
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:21,320
I mean, I think it would be great if you had a lead on it, and then had a few people under

932
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,019
the lead guy.

933
01:04:22,579 --> 01:04:26,360
Because, like, if someone's going to come and talk to all of us, we want to just hear

934
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:26,920
from one person.

935
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,219
We don't want to hear all three of those things all at once.

936
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:35,599
Have a little meeting prior to, and then just hear from one person, and that would be the

937
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:35,619
best.

938
01:04:39,309 --> 01:04:43,800
Well, how many are we going to have to investigate first, to gather the facts?

939
01:04:43,820 --> 01:04:44,619
That's what we want.

940
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:52,960
I'd say three, so that way they're kind of like...

941
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,820
We can't stop three of them.

942
01:04:53,820 --> 01:04:57,280
It's the same like us on the board, that's why we have an odd number.

943
01:04:57,809 --> 01:05:05,019
We can't stop three of them from coming here to talk, because we don't know...

944
01:05:05,019 --> 01:05:06,099
Isn't that the unit second?

945
01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:08,570
That would be, yeah, it would be...

946
01:05:08,570 --> 01:05:15,510
It could, or the person that the complaint is against could have it in open session.

947
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:16,670
It's up to them.

948
01:05:16,829 --> 01:05:17,190
It's up to them.

949
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:26,820
So you want to change that to persons?

950
01:05:26,940 --> 01:05:32,369
Yeah, it's on the back here.

951
01:05:32,929 --> 01:05:34,010
I was looking at that.

952
01:05:34,269 --> 01:05:36,579
I was tempted on doing a mock-up.

953
01:05:43,889 --> 01:05:45,389
Does it say in the back three people?

954
01:05:46,989 --> 01:05:48,559
It's not bullshit.

955
01:05:49,340 --> 01:05:50,179
It's not bullshit.

956
01:05:50,420 --> 01:05:50,880
Where's that?

957
01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:54,300
It takes the single person to write it.

958
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:56,579
And you know that's the right way to do it.

959
01:05:59,420 --> 01:06:01,239
How many investigations do you have to write yourself?

960
01:06:01,539 --> 01:06:01,780
Three.

961
01:06:02,539 --> 01:06:03,360
I'm just talking...

962
01:06:04,179 --> 01:06:08,340
Just in general, like even when we have Dave working, we have a partner for Dave.

963
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,079
You know, it's like...

964
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:12,280
Can you move the question?

965
01:06:12,699 --> 01:06:14,579
Something could happen and lose the...

966
01:06:14,579 --> 01:06:17,800
I don't even understand what the husband's answer is.

967
01:06:18,019 --> 01:06:19,619
I think we know who moved the question.

968
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:21,840
He wants to move the question.

969
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:22,340
Second.

970
01:06:24,969 --> 01:06:25,730
All in favor?

971
01:06:25,989 --> 01:06:26,230
Aye.

972
01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:27,329
I'm going to vote no.

973
01:06:27,809 --> 01:06:29,170
He wants to move the question.

974
01:06:29,570 --> 01:06:30,030
Enough talking about it.

975
01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:31,710
Move it along.

976
01:06:31,809 --> 01:06:32,010
Aye.

977
01:06:32,250 --> 01:06:32,829
Move it along.

978
01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:33,289
Okay.

979
01:06:35,030 --> 01:06:38,179
Lori will make the changes and review it again.

980
01:06:38,179 --> 01:06:47,099
First quarter financials.

981
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,579
Lori sent these.

982
01:06:50,099 --> 01:06:51,360
Financials to us.

983
01:06:52,780 --> 01:06:57,179
Was there anything that jumped out that we need to ask Lori about?

984
01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:06,280
I had a big question about the money market interest.

985
01:07:07,659 --> 01:07:08,880
We budgeted $100.

986
01:07:10,980 --> 01:07:15,440
And for the first quarter we collected $1,336.

987
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:17,179
So I said, whoa, what happened, Lori?

988
01:07:17,469 --> 01:07:19,889
She said, well, because we had all this food money there.

989
01:07:20,349 --> 01:07:26,940
And then for February and March we didn't get that much.

990
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:30,150
But, I mean, that really jumped out.

991
01:07:30,269 --> 01:07:30,710
Like, wow.

992
01:07:30,809 --> 01:07:31,909
How come, you know.

993
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:35,329
That's an incentive for them to borrow some money.

994
01:07:43,909 --> 01:07:44,949
Oh, and then we got a.

995
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:05,119
And the library section will not be showing up in our general fund report.

996
01:08:05,820 --> 01:08:09,420
Because the auditor suggested that they have their own fund.

997
01:08:10,659 --> 01:08:14,320
Still run through the town, but it will not show up in this report.

998
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:18,770
It will be a lot easier for Lori to handle that.

999
01:08:18,770 --> 01:08:27,710
And then in the income for the highway.

1000
01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:30,300
It does show.

1001
01:08:30,460 --> 01:08:37,260
But we received $10,000 for last year's Clean Water Act.

1002
01:08:37,989 --> 01:08:42,409
And then the FEMA flood money, we finally got reimbursed for that.

1003
01:08:43,329 --> 01:08:45,210
That was two years ago or three.

1004
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:48,090
Three?

1005
01:08:48,310 --> 01:08:57,479
So if there's any questions, check with Lori.

1006
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:03,859
Oh, I did.

1007
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,960
Review the employee policy handbook.

1008
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:11,060
You checked it off, Kurt?

1009
01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:18,239
Do you want to review this with a couple people?

1010
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:20,239
And then bring it back to the board?

1011
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:27,270
How do you want to do it?

1012
01:09:27,270 --> 01:09:29,270
We haven't reviewed this policy since 2018.

1013
01:09:29,270 --> 01:09:39,939
I think we need to do it.

1014
01:09:39,939 --> 01:09:49,140
Work with somebody.

1015
01:09:49,140 --> 01:09:53,220
When?

1016
01:09:53,220 --> 01:09:55,220
We'll take a date with Lori and I.

1017
01:09:55,220 --> 01:10:02,119
When we can get together.

1018
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:05,109
Let me know.

1019
01:10:05,109 --> 01:10:07,109
Are we going to advertise?

1020
01:10:07,109 --> 01:10:09,109
Should we?

1021
01:10:09,109 --> 01:10:11,109
I'm just looking at this free public places.

1022
01:10:11,109 --> 01:10:14,100
Advertise for vacant positions.

1023
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:16,100
Are we going to ever advertise for a third?

1024
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:17,960
Another game?

1025
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,960
Another guy, yeah.

1026
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,960
Well, it is in our minutes at the end.

1027
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,960
If anybody is interested to come forward.

1028
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,569
We need a third person.

1029
01:10:26,569 --> 01:10:28,569
Let's post it.

1030
01:10:28,569 --> 01:10:31,430
You mean for a private?

1031
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:33,430
Yes.

1032
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:35,430
Three public places you need to post it.

1033
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:37,430
I mean, I posted for how nobody's called me.

1034
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:39,430
So I think.

1035
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:41,430
I told people that don't work right now.

1036
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:45,880
I think we should seriously think about posting a position for a third guy.

1037
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,909
Motion to post.

1038
01:10:47,909 --> 01:10:49,100
Second.

1039
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:51,100
We have two.

1040
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:53,100
Are we going to discuss hours?

1041
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,229
Pay?

1042
01:10:55,229 --> 01:10:57,420
What's that?

1043
01:10:57,420 --> 01:10:59,680
Full-time, part-time?

1044
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,710
Let's start with part-time.

1045
01:11:01,710 --> 01:11:03,710
With option to go full-time.

1046
01:11:03,710 --> 01:11:05,970
Yeah.

1047
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:08,159
We don't have to hire him.

1048
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:11,250
That guy's not going to work for us.

1049
01:11:11,250 --> 01:11:13,729
We don't have to hire someone.

1050
01:11:13,729 --> 01:11:15,729
It's not like we have to.

1051
01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:18,819
You got to start feeling this out.

1052
01:11:18,819 --> 01:11:20,939
Because it's closer and closer to you.

1053
01:11:20,939 --> 01:11:22,939
Yeah.

1054
01:11:22,939 --> 01:11:26,220
If the right person comes along.

1055
01:11:26,220 --> 01:11:28,220
Change it.

1056
01:11:28,220 --> 01:11:30,220
Is that higher for 30 or 40 hours?

1057
01:11:30,220 --> 01:11:32,220
Yeah.

1058
01:11:32,220 --> 01:11:43,090
We could discuss pay.

1059
01:11:43,090 --> 01:11:46,020
It's already negotiable.

1060
01:11:46,020 --> 01:11:51,699
Yeah.

1061
01:11:51,699 --> 01:11:56,159
Is it going to be both?

1062
01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:00,510
Let's work something up and send it to us.

1063
01:12:00,510 --> 01:12:09,949
I mean, there's an eyewash we could put right on top of this list.

1064
01:12:09,949 --> 01:12:11,949
Put the eyewash on.

1065
01:12:11,949 --> 01:12:13,949
That we've been trying to get installed for a while.

1066
01:12:13,949 --> 01:12:15,949
Over a year now?

1067
01:12:15,949 --> 01:12:24,770
Yeah.

1068
01:12:24,770 --> 01:12:26,770
Correspondence story.

1069
01:12:26,770 --> 01:12:38,850
Small steps, big steps.

1070
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:42,739
Old business.

1071
01:12:42,739 --> 01:12:47,649
We've got a couple questions.

1072
01:12:47,649 --> 01:12:49,970
We talked about having all boards meeting.

1073
01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:52,060
I thought we were waiting until after we did the school board.

1074
01:12:52,060 --> 01:12:54,060
When are we doing the school board again?

1075
01:12:54,060 --> 01:12:56,060
Next Tuesday.

1076
01:12:56,060 --> 01:13:02,420
The 24th.

1077
01:13:02,420 --> 01:13:04,420
630.

1078
01:13:04,420 --> 01:13:06,420
We're treating it as a work session gathering information.

1079
01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:08,420
Just talking.

1080
01:13:08,420 --> 01:13:11,180
It's not a meeting.

1081
01:13:11,180 --> 01:13:13,180
We can't make any motions.

1082
01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:24,750
I'm sorry.

1083
01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:26,750
This is just way past.

1084
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:43,060
This is not going to help.

1085
01:13:43,060 --> 01:13:47,199
Well, you're it.

1086
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,199
No, we've advertised.

1087
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:51,329
Jim can't just have one?

1088
01:13:51,329 --> 01:14:06,939
I don't want to take all three classes that I should be attending if we're not going to move forward with it.

1089
01:14:06,939 --> 01:14:09,939
Because I've done nothing.

1090
01:14:09,939 --> 01:14:12,449
Do we not have to?

1091
01:14:12,449 --> 01:14:14,449
Do we not have to?

1092
01:14:14,449 --> 01:14:16,449
She doesn't want to.

1093
01:14:16,449 --> 01:14:18,449
She doesn't want to.

1094
01:14:18,449 --> 01:14:27,010
She doesn't want to.

1095
01:14:27,010 --> 01:14:29,010
Is it in the minutes that we are looking for a lister?

1096
01:14:29,010 --> 01:14:31,550
Because we can appoint someone now that there's an elected opening.

1097
01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:33,550
Right.

1098
01:14:33,550 --> 01:14:35,939
Right.

1099
01:14:35,939 --> 01:14:37,939
Do you want it?

1100
01:14:37,939 --> 01:14:40,380
I'll make a motion.

1101
01:14:40,380 --> 01:14:42,380
What I'm saying is,

1102
01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:44,479
does both listers have to?

1103
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,500
No, I think that you can work towards it.

1104
01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:50,500
That's the whole purpose of having this elected is so we can get that.

1105
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:52,500
Exactly.

1106
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:54,500
Right.

1107
01:14:54,500 --> 01:15:02,289
Yeah.

1108
01:15:02,289 --> 01:15:04,609
If they're just simply elected.

1109
01:15:04,609 --> 01:15:21,810
We're appointing an elected.

1110
01:15:21,810 --> 01:15:23,810
So, my feeling, I think this is how it would work.

1111
01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:25,810
You can attend these sessions,

1112
01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:27,810
because the state pays for it.

1113
01:15:27,810 --> 01:15:30,130
The town doesn't pay for it.

1114
01:15:30,130 --> 01:15:32,130
Is that correct, Lori?

1115
01:15:32,130 --> 01:15:34,130
Yeah, I've missed out on the initial one,

1116
01:15:34,130 --> 01:15:36,130
which was right prior to the election.

1117
01:15:36,130 --> 01:15:38,479
I know.

1118
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,479
There was a big training session for all new listers.

1119
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,800
Are they still offering these sessions?

1120
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,800
Not that particular session.

1121
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,279
I guess,

1122
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:52,000
I'll find out.

1123
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,699
So much, so different.

1124
01:15:54,699 --> 01:16:24,829
What's that mean?

1125
01:16:24,829 --> 01:16:26,829
Paying gig?

1126
01:16:26,829 --> 01:16:31,199
Is it a decent paying gig?

1127
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:33,199
No.

1128
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:35,199
It's just like our job.

1129
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:48,239
I'm just saying, it's hard to get people motivated without a little gumption.

1130
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:50,500
It's a lot in the spring.

1131
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:52,500
But after that,

1132
01:16:52,500 --> 01:17:06,880
it kind of slows right down.

1133
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,909
To bring this up,

1134
01:17:08,909 --> 01:17:10,909
this word again,

1135
01:17:10,909 --> 01:17:12,909
this sign,

1136
01:17:12,909 --> 01:17:15,489
are we going to do something about it?

1137
01:17:15,489 --> 01:17:17,489
We've got the bylaws that have passed,

1138
01:17:17,489 --> 01:17:19,489
or are going to pass,

1139
01:17:19,489 --> 01:17:22,989
as of July 10th.

1140
01:17:22,989 --> 01:17:24,989
John, do you want to look into this?

1141
01:17:24,989 --> 01:17:26,989
You did before.

1142
01:17:26,989 --> 01:17:28,989
We started with the ball on it,

1143
01:17:28,989 --> 01:17:30,989
and kind of stopped,

1144
01:17:30,989 --> 01:17:34,020
because of all the commotion.

1145
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,750
I thought you had a good design.

1146
01:17:36,750 --> 01:17:38,750
Given,

1147
01:17:38,750 --> 01:17:40,750
we just go bigger on it, I guess.

1148
01:17:40,750 --> 01:17:42,819
Now we have the option of going bigger.

1149
01:17:42,819 --> 01:17:45,329
Average of bigger means more money.

1150
01:17:45,329 --> 01:17:47,520
And I'm not sure

1151
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,520
what's in the budget.

1152
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,520
In fact, we only had like,

1153
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,550
maybe $1000 for a sign.

1154
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:55,550
I thought it was $800.

1155
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:57,869
$350 for a new sign.

1156
01:17:57,869 --> 01:17:59,869
So,

1157
01:17:59,869 --> 01:18:01,939
do we have a can drive,

1158
01:18:01,939 --> 01:18:03,939
or how do you want it?

1159
01:18:03,939 --> 01:18:07,279
Let's see what the price is going to cost for it.

1160
01:18:10,210 --> 01:18:12,210
What were the prices that we got?

1161
01:18:12,210 --> 01:18:14,210
Do you remember off the top of your head?

1162
01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:25,279
The thing is,

1163
01:18:25,279 --> 01:18:27,279
the size of the model comes in certain sizes.

1164
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:29,380
So if you stick them

1165
01:18:29,380 --> 01:18:32,210
together,

1166
01:18:32,210 --> 01:18:34,210
it gives you a break on the price.

1167
01:18:34,210 --> 01:18:36,210
If you get an odd size,

1168
01:18:36,210 --> 01:18:57,789
you're getting charged for a full sheet.

1169
01:18:57,789 --> 01:18:59,789
I have signs on my truck,

1170
01:18:59,789 --> 01:19:05,789
they're like 2x30 maybe.

1171
01:19:05,789 --> 01:19:09,010
And I want to say two signs

1172
01:19:09,010 --> 01:19:13,409
was like $300.

1173
01:19:13,409 --> 01:19:15,760
Me too.

1174
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,859
That's what I'm looking for.

1175
01:19:17,859 --> 01:19:20,210
I don't want to say I'm paying for the whole thing.

1176
01:19:20,210 --> 01:19:23,170
So we needed to figure out

1177
01:19:23,170 --> 01:19:25,170
what size you want to price on,

1178
01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:27,170
and get a price for the size.

1179
01:19:27,170 --> 01:19:29,869
Do you want to go with the max size that we're allowed?

1180
01:19:29,869 --> 01:19:31,869
Go with the size that's allowed.

1181
01:19:31,869 --> 01:19:33,869
Go with the size that's allowed.

1182
01:19:33,869 --> 01:19:35,869
We'll get a price and see

1183
01:19:35,869 --> 01:19:38,899
how much money we need to...

1184
01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:40,899
And everything's on the up and up now?

1185
01:19:40,899 --> 01:19:42,899
We don't have to wait any days or anything

1186
01:19:42,899 --> 01:19:46,979
after the payloads are packed?

1187
01:19:46,979 --> 01:19:49,390
July 10th.

1188
01:19:49,390 --> 01:19:51,390
Just how you had it,

1189
01:19:51,390 --> 01:19:53,390
Stanford, town office, library...

1190
01:19:53,390 --> 01:19:55,390
I'll be impressed if we have one up by fall.

1191
01:19:55,390 --> 01:19:57,390
Do we need a 911 number too,

1192
01:19:57,390 --> 01:19:59,390
or no?

1193
01:19:59,390 --> 01:20:01,390
For the sign?

1194
01:20:01,390 --> 01:20:03,390
Or for school?

1195
01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:05,899
Yeah, so

1196
01:20:05,899 --> 01:20:07,899
Lori, I think, has them.

1197
01:20:07,899 --> 01:20:10,029
I have like a big...

1198
01:20:10,029 --> 01:20:20,100
Alright, so based off the new zoning

1199
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:22,100
bylaws, we're going to get a

1200
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:24,220
bid for signage.

1201
01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:28,880
Max is the laws

1202
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,840
that are allowed.

1203
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,840
Within affordable standards.

1204
01:20:38,449 --> 01:20:51,140
That is if it's in their state

1205
01:20:51,140 --> 01:20:53,460
right or left.

1206
01:20:53,460 --> 01:21:01,220
Do it, do it, do it.

1207
01:21:01,220 --> 01:21:14,739
That's it. We have old and new

1208
01:21:14,739 --> 01:21:17,409
She had enough of you.

1209
01:21:17,409 --> 01:21:19,409
Lori's got a couple

1210
01:21:19,409 --> 01:21:21,409
things for new business, old business.

1211
01:21:21,409 --> 01:21:23,760
So your next meeting would only be...

1212
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:31,619
Yep, July 3rd.

1213
01:21:31,619 --> 01:21:33,619
I'm hour by hour.

1214
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,800
Do you want to have a July 3rd?

1215
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,899
No.

1216
01:21:38,899 --> 01:21:41,279
No, okay.

1217
01:21:41,279 --> 01:21:50,739
Something I can tell you

1218
01:21:50,739 --> 01:21:55,170
when I move it, I...

1219
01:21:55,170 --> 01:21:57,170
I'd like to move it.

1220
01:21:57,170 --> 01:22:07,869
We have one on Tuesday.

1221
01:22:07,869 --> 01:22:10,420
That's the morning of payment year.

1222
01:22:10,420 --> 01:22:12,829
Right.

1223
01:22:12,829 --> 01:22:36,850
I don't want to have it that...

1224
01:22:36,850 --> 01:22:38,850
Can we do a Wednesday and then another one

1225
01:22:38,850 --> 01:22:40,850
on a Thursday?

1226
01:22:40,850 --> 01:22:42,850
Wednesday, July 2nd.

1227
01:22:42,850 --> 01:22:44,850
What is that? 9?

1228
01:22:44,850 --> 01:22:52,350
Wednesday to 9?

1229
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:54,350
So then you'll have Wednesday night

1230
01:22:54,350 --> 01:22:56,350
and Thursday.

1231
01:22:56,350 --> 01:23:00,659
Two nights in a row?

1232
01:23:00,659 --> 01:23:02,659
No.

1233
01:23:02,659 --> 01:23:06,449
Monday the 7th and the 10th?

1234
01:23:06,449 --> 01:23:08,449
Yeah, I don't care.

1235
01:23:08,449 --> 01:23:10,449
We can do it.

1236
01:23:10,449 --> 01:23:15,229
Yeah, no, I don't care.

1237
01:23:15,229 --> 01:23:22,100
It doesn't matter.

1238
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:24,100
But it's at the moment.

1239
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:32,720
It's hard to say, but...

1240
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,720
We have another meeting prior to that, right?

1241
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,909
Or is that the next meeting?

1242
01:23:36,909 --> 01:23:39,010
This would be the next meeting.

1243
01:23:39,010 --> 01:23:41,010
We don't have one until July 3rd.

1244
01:23:41,010 --> 01:23:43,579
I'm going to be here, I just...

1245
01:23:43,579 --> 01:23:45,579
I'll be here, I'm not going anywhere.

1246
01:23:45,579 --> 01:23:48,449
July 3rd.

1247
01:23:48,449 --> 01:23:59,090
Why don't we do the 17th and the 31st?

1248
01:23:59,090 --> 01:24:02,270
I just got the date off.

1249
01:24:02,270 --> 01:24:04,270
We still only have two meetings.

1250
01:24:04,270 --> 01:24:07,199
Do it. Make a decision.

1251
01:24:07,199 --> 01:24:09,329
1731.

1252
01:24:09,329 --> 01:24:13,409
17.

1253
01:24:13,409 --> 01:24:15,819
What's the other one going to be?

1254
01:24:15,819 --> 01:24:17,819
31st.

1255
01:24:17,819 --> 01:24:25,170
Right.

1256
01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:27,170
17th is our next meeting.

1257
01:24:27,170 --> 01:24:31,859
Didn't we have something on the path already?

1258
01:24:31,859 --> 01:24:33,859
Yes, the court of abatement.

1259
01:24:33,859 --> 01:25:03,250
Another meeting.

1260
01:25:03,250 --> 01:25:05,250
Civil authorities and justice of the peace

1261
01:25:05,250 --> 01:25:07,250
and the sled board.

1262
01:25:07,250 --> 01:25:09,250
Two people who grieved to the Listers,

1263
01:25:09,250 --> 01:25:11,250
received their decisions,

1264
01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:13,250
were still unhappy with that value

1265
01:25:13,250 --> 01:25:22,350
and are now asking to go.

1266
01:25:22,350 --> 01:25:26,460
I know, it's too close.

1267
01:25:26,460 --> 01:25:28,460
It's too close.

1268
01:25:28,460 --> 01:25:31,840
Yeah.

1269
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,840
We also, being an odd year,

1270
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:41,180
the board of civil authority has to review

1271
01:25:41,180 --> 01:25:43,659
and do that for a check.

1272
01:25:43,659 --> 01:25:46,460
Are we getting that on the same night?

1273
01:25:46,460 --> 01:25:48,460
Yeah.

1274
01:25:48,460 --> 01:25:50,460
No.

1275
01:25:50,460 --> 01:25:52,460
The board of abatement is a different meeting.

1276
01:25:52,460 --> 01:25:57,500
Yeah, I know what she said about the same night.

1277
01:25:57,500 --> 01:25:59,659
The board of civil authority

1278
01:25:59,659 --> 01:26:01,659
also reviews the voter checklist

1279
01:26:01,659 --> 01:26:03,659
every odd year.

1280
01:26:03,659 --> 01:26:05,659
So on top of having two grievances

1281
01:26:05,659 --> 01:26:07,659
going before the board of civil authority.

1282
01:26:07,659 --> 01:26:12,670
So whether you want to combine

1283
01:26:12,670 --> 01:26:15,789
meeting or...

1284
01:26:15,789 --> 01:26:17,789
Yeah.

1285
01:26:17,789 --> 01:26:19,789
It shouldn't take long.

1286
01:26:19,789 --> 01:26:22,140
If you send us the checklist ahead of time,

1287
01:26:22,140 --> 01:26:24,140
we can review it at home

1288
01:26:24,140 --> 01:26:26,140
and then just come here and...

1289
01:26:26,140 --> 01:26:28,140
Can we do it on the 17th

1290
01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:30,779
before the sled board meeting?

1291
01:26:30,779 --> 01:26:37,579
Do the board of civil authority and?

1292
01:26:37,579 --> 01:26:41,180
The whole month.

1293
01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:43,890
Is that going to mess you up?

1294
01:26:43,890 --> 01:26:45,890
The board of civil authority

1295
01:26:45,890 --> 01:26:47,890
30 firsts?

1296
01:26:47,890 --> 01:26:55,649
30 firsts.

1297
01:26:55,649 --> 01:27:09,489
And then you will

1298
01:27:09,489 --> 01:27:11,489
schedule the...

1299
01:27:11,489 --> 01:27:13,489
Lori's going to email and call

1300
01:27:13,489 --> 01:27:24,770
and make sure...

1301
01:27:24,770 --> 01:27:26,770
Alright, that's okay.

1302
01:27:26,770 --> 01:27:29,630
Can we do the

1303
01:27:29,630 --> 01:27:31,630
board of civil authority

1304
01:27:31,630 --> 01:27:33,630
we'll have to have an organizational meeting

1305
01:27:33,630 --> 01:27:38,670
first. Six.

1306
01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:40,670
I'd like to review the checklist first.

1307
01:27:40,670 --> 01:27:44,880
And then the hearing

1308
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:49,659
like at quarter to seven

1309
01:27:49,659 --> 01:27:53,039
and seven.

1310
01:27:53,039 --> 01:27:55,039
Do 15 minutes. Do we do more than 15 minutes?

1311
01:27:55,039 --> 01:27:57,460
We usually do.

1312
01:27:57,460 --> 01:28:00,319
Yeah.

1313
01:28:00,319 --> 01:28:03,220
So, six thirty

1314
01:28:03,220 --> 01:28:05,220
is checklist.

1315
01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:10,060
Six o'clock is checklist.

1316
01:28:10,060 --> 01:28:14,399
Organization checklist.

1317
01:28:14,399 --> 01:28:18,289
Quarter of seven.

1318
01:28:28,670 --> 01:28:30,670
Half an hour quarter after seven.

1319
01:28:30,670 --> 01:28:36,380
Seven thirty, quarter after seven.

1320
01:28:36,380 --> 01:28:38,640
Seven thirty, quarter after.

1321
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,640
Lori will send us that one

1322
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:45,420
as long as we're here at six o'clock.

1323
01:28:45,420 --> 01:29:30,619
We good?

1324
01:29:30,619 --> 01:29:32,619
Does this go with the fellow

1325
01:29:32,619 --> 01:29:34,619
that's on our website right now?

1326
01:29:34,619 --> 01:29:37,489
Does he do all this?

1327
01:29:37,489 --> 01:29:41,409
He doesn't have the storage for that.

1328
01:29:41,409 --> 01:29:44,140
So...

1329
01:29:44,140 --> 01:29:47,170
We can put the link

1330
01:29:47,170 --> 01:29:49,170
on our website

1331
01:29:49,170 --> 01:29:51,170
and then when you click on it

1332
01:29:51,170 --> 01:29:55,979
it takes you over to...

1333
01:29:55,979 --> 01:29:59,649
And we have to do it.

1334
01:29:59,649 --> 01:30:01,649
Is he going to charge us more for doing all that?

1335
01:30:01,649 --> 01:30:04,960
No, he shouldn't even have to.

1336
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,760
So, let's do the hundred dollars a year then.

1337
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,760
That should pay the cloud.

1338
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:18,930
Yeah, pay the cloud.

1339
01:30:18,930 --> 01:30:20,930
And it stays there until

1340
01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:24,340
the next meeting or 30 days?

1341
01:30:24,340 --> 01:30:36,770
Yeah.

1342
01:30:36,770 --> 01:30:45,260
How long do you have to leave it up there for

1343
01:30:45,260 --> 01:30:47,260
before you can take it down?

1344
01:30:47,260 --> 01:30:50,000
It could be up or off forever.

1345
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,289
Now, does the planning commission,

1346
01:30:52,289 --> 01:30:54,289
ZBA, and all of them,

1347
01:30:54,289 --> 01:30:56,420
everybody that has a meeting

1348
01:30:56,420 --> 01:30:59,500
has to put them up there?

1349
01:30:59,500 --> 01:31:01,500
Would they have to go through you,

1350
01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:03,500
send their minutes to you,

1351
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:05,500
and you put them up?

1352
01:31:05,500 --> 01:31:07,500
It's not the minutes, it's the actual recording.

1353
01:31:07,500 --> 01:31:09,500
So, everybody uses the recorder

1354
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:12,399
which asks someone

1355
01:31:12,399 --> 01:31:17,220
if they don't record their meetings.

1356
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:27,060
I think just about everybody uses it.

1357
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:29,180
Well, they'll have to.

1358
01:31:29,180 --> 01:31:31,180
And all the committees

1359
01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:33,180
will need to

1360
01:31:33,180 --> 01:31:35,180
go by this ethics

1361
01:31:35,180 --> 01:31:38,020
conflict of interest,

1362
01:31:38,020 --> 01:31:45,970
ethics investigation.

1363
01:31:45,970 --> 01:31:49,090
It's on a channel,

1364
01:31:49,090 --> 01:31:51,090
they have a TV channel.

1365
01:31:51,090 --> 01:31:53,090
No, the ethics and all that stuff.

1366
01:31:53,090 --> 01:31:55,090
The state laws

1367
01:31:55,090 --> 01:31:57,090
have recently changed.

1368
01:31:57,090 --> 01:31:59,090
I don't know if you guys are aware of that,

1369
01:31:59,090 --> 01:32:01,090
but they've recently changed.

1370
01:32:01,090 --> 01:32:03,090
So, they've come out with new handbooks

1371
01:32:03,090 --> 01:32:05,090
for various positions in the accounts.

1372
01:32:05,090 --> 01:32:07,090
I know the AO's

1373
01:32:07,090 --> 01:32:09,279
zoning handbook

1374
01:32:09,279 --> 01:32:11,310
has got some significant changes in it.

1375
01:32:11,310 --> 01:32:13,439
There was something too with,

1376
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,439
I think it was the open meeting law,

1377
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,439
something just changed on that.

1378
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,439
I haven't read that yet.

1379
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,439
I haven't read it either,

1380
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:34,130
but there's a whole bunch of different handbooks now.

1381
01:32:34,130 --> 01:32:36,130
Can I have a motion,

1382
01:32:36,130 --> 01:32:38,289
is there any other new business, old business?

1383
01:32:38,289 --> 01:32:40,289
Can I have a motion to go into executive session

1384
01:32:40,289 --> 01:32:42,289
for two reasons,

1385
01:32:42,289 --> 01:32:44,289
personnel matter

1386
01:32:44,289 --> 01:32:46,289
and for pending or probable

1387
01:32:46,289 --> 01:32:48,289
civil litigation?

1388
01:32:48,289 --> 01:32:50,319
Motion. Second.

1389
01:32:50,319 --> 01:32:52,380
All in favor? Aye.

1390
01:32:52,380 --> 01:32:54,380
Thank you very much.