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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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My name is Nancy Pachica.

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Alright, welcome to the meeting of the Stanford Select Board.

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If you have a matter to discuss that's not included on the agenda, you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address.

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That's all it says on here. We always give five minutes. I see it's a big turnout tonight.

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So, I'm going to stick to the 15 minutes per subject matter.

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I'm not going to let everybody go crazy tonight, okay?

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So, I've seen a lot of letters come in. We read them. We know what we're talking about.

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I'm not going to let everybody just go crazy.

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I'm not going to let everybody just go crazy until 9 o'clock.

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Select Board members.

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Mike Duran, Doug Wright, Kurt Gamara.

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Do we have anything to add or change?

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Changes? No additions? I know you mentioned an executive session.

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So, I want to add an executive session at the end for personnel.

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We have one on there for the litigation, too, but I don't know if we have anything.

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That won't be necessary.

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Anything else?

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Okay.

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Here are the visitors.

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Marta.

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First of all, I'd like to thank everybody who came for an update in the rain for the

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bigger reward of a slightly soggy DOMA because it showed up, and I thank everyone for doing

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that.

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Also, I'd like to thank everyone who helped or attended the resiliency fair.

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It was really nice to see folks coming together.

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Saw a lot of folks I know.

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People worked really hard on it and met a bunch of new people that I've never seen,

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which, that was great.

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Welcome to town.

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I'd like to say something, and I'd like to ask something.

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I'd like to say that I miss the feeling, which I so strongly experienced when I first came

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to this town 24 years ago, of the wonderful sense that neighbors and townspeople looked

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out for each other, helped each other, worked together, and valued the unique situation

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of living together in a small town where we lend each other a hand happily and proudly.

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I'd like to ask about a code of conduct for representing townspeople.

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Does this board condone appointed or elected committee members gossiping in meetings about

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a fellow committee member not present or spreading malicious rumors?

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Or present themselves as a spokesman for a board without approval from that board and

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unilaterally approach, without setting up a meeting, members of our town?

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What is the proper and respectful way to engage around regulatory issues and oversight, and

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what are the proper channels and sequence?

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Thanks.

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Okay.

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So, I'm not going to answer all your questions tonight, but I will be discussing the code

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of ethics.

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We are going to be passing our code of ethics tonight, signing it, and I will be discussing

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that with the rest of the board later.

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We have two board members not here tonight, and I'd like to have both of them here, but

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in lieu of all the emails and comments, I'd like to have both of them here.

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I think we'll have a lot of emails and texts and phone calls and everything else.

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It's definitely going to be addressed.

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David.

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Yes, I have two subjects tonight.

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The first one involves the National Highway.

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I sent the letter, probably one of the emails that you got, because I was asked to do as

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part of my committee.

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Mm-hmm.

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as much as I could about the National Scenic Highway

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right away.

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And like Jim, who did extensive work,

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and I thank him for his work,

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I finally received a letter from the Travel Council

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who's supposed to oversee the Scenic Highway

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and what you can do and what you can't.

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You saw, did you read the letter he sent you?

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Did everybody else on the planet board

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read the letter he sent?

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Yes.

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Okay, okay.

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So he came back and said, basically Trump,

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let go of the federal administrator.

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They don't have anybody to spearhead this

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and go back to your town.

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So I conceded, I sent the letter out saying,

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hey, look, I've taken this as far as I can go.

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There's nothing more I can do about this,

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but as soon as you say that, I got a call today.

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And from the permit person that, let's see,

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is Dave here?

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No.

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I don't see Dave.

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They said, who else was involved

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with the state coming down to Medjugorje?

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I remember during one of the meetings,

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somebody said they came down and they measured it.

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Was that you, Jim?

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Did you say you were involved right away?

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Getting measured?

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I'm just looking, look, I watch the videos like everybody.

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It's okay?

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Sure.

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And I hear all the accusations and it's here and there.

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I just want to pass this.

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So, just give me a minute.

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Jeff, can you please provide the ROW plan

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for Stanford Vermont 100?

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In front of the Stanford Elementary School,

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David Salvo, a representative of the town,

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ZBA, Conservation Committee, Planning Commission,

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I only signed my name for the board

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because I've been told I'm pompous

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and I tend to get up on my bully pulpit too often,

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so just letting you know where that's coming from,

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is interested in what the process is,

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if a town were interested in acquiring

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a portion of the right-of-way.

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If you could provide a general outline of a process

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in an estimated timeline of potential cost,

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that would be appreciated.

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Dave copied on his email.

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So, why would I be trying to get a right-of-way

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for this town?

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What have I been saying to you, Jim,

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over and over and over.

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No, I'm just saying, I'm not trying to go back and forth.

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I just can't give no reason.

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I understand that you're meeting the planning board.

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Let's just stick to what you want to talk about.

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I've said to the planning board,

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I'm concerned about the right of way.

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It doesn't start from the state highway.

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It starts in the parking lot.

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I had no way to prove it because I couldn't get,

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I'm not the road commissioner.

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I didn't have access to any of these people,

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but I tried and tried because the last thing I wanted to do

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was have another sign taken down.

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I didn't object to the other sign being noticed.

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I just wanted it done right so that we didn't go through

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this two years of wasting our time trying to get this done.

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When there's so many other important things

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we could have been doing, that's just my opinion.

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So it says here, in Vermont, a place in a school town,

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office, library, or park sign 25 feet

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from the National Scenic Highway without a permit

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would likely not be allowed as it could impact Scenic View.

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Specifically, you would need a state highway access work

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permit from the agency of transportation.

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How many times have I said this to the board?

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Pete, you're the chairman.

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You ever hear that before from me?

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Anybody?

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Okay, so here's a picture they sent out to me today.

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Take a look at this yellow line right here.

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See it? Mm-hmm.

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See it?

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Kurt?

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Brain over here.

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I'll give you one.

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Hold on.

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So you can all look at it at the same time.

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You see that yellow line?

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You see the blue line that goes below it?

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That's the state right-of-way.

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What I've been saying all along.

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It doesn't start at the highway.

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It starts in the school parking lot.

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We have to go 25 feet from this right there.

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So how are we gonna put a sign

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that's already in the state highway?

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I don't know.

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You're close to having to rip the front of the school off,

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too, I don't think, right?

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Ah, and you know, guess who gave away the right-of-ways?

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The land.

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Five cents.

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Gamari?

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Gamari?

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What?

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I'm telling you we gave the right-of-way.

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I got the maps here for you.

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All right.

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So hold on a minute.

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What's your point?

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The point is that these people's-

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Because you've gone over five minutes

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on just this one subject.

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You said, yeah.

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Oh, really?

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I'll check with that because I got so many time.

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You're more than welcome to do either, too.

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Okay, sorry.

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I got a little map here for you.

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Don't mind me shaking.

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I have a illness that I'm fighting.

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I have the maps, and I can get them to you afterwards.

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Oh, here they are.

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Kirk, two maps.

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You can see who the grantors were for.

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So anyway, the state owns this.

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And what I, okay, let me finish.

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This is important for the town.

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Why don't you finish?

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Go ahead.

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What I'm trying to do with the state

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is have them give us back the right-of-way.

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For nothing. Mm-hmm.

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They say that we could pay market value.

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I don't know why they jogged it out.

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But I knew when I did the sidewalk grant,

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we ran into this.

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I tried to explain this over and over again,

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but nobody wanted to listen.

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Okay.

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So here.

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What does that map say?

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That's way too small.

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I need a magnifying glass.

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Well, you can blow it up.

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That's what I got.

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What do you want me to do?

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Can I give it?

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Yeah.

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These are for you.

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I love maps.

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Yeah, and also, this is from the state.

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Not running the road.

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This is what my committee asked me to do.

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Right, and this is what this is,

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is a planning board committee subject.

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The whole thing is a planning board committee subject.

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Bring it to the planning board.

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Oh, thank you.

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You guys can come back to us as a board,

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and we will discuss it.

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So when I watched the video of the last meeting,

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you guys spent an hour talking about somebody on the boards

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running the road, never mentioned any names,

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and they also talked about how during the meetings,

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you're out of control.

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All I have to say, and I'm going to let this go,

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because I've got it in my second subject.

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Ben Gilsen, whatever.

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I am not guilty of anything.

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Just watch the video.

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In fact, take the tape recordings from 2001,

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my first target year.

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You show me where Dave Selle will ever holler at any point.

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Listen, Dave.

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Dave, I'm going to stop you right there.

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Okay.

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Okay?

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Listen to me now, okay?

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Yeah, I'm listening.

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Nancy Besheka is the chairman on all those videos.

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Okay?

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Okay.

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I'm the co-chairman acting as chairman tonight.

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I'm telling you that this is a planning board situation.

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All those videos you talked about,

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I don't want to get into it with you.

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I am not the chairman.

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You can't bring that up with a chairman, okay?

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Now, that's going to be .

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David, I'm speaking now, okay?

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You've had more, well, over five minutes.

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You only get five minutes.

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Five minutes per person.

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Something.

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No, it's five minutes per person.

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00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,679
You can't come in here with 50 subjects in this talk all night.

263
00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:54,480
I know, never have.

264
00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,720
And I'm just saying, but the rules are-

265
00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,720
Like if you don't want to hear me just say it.

266
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:05,120
No, David, if you didn't start an argument, if you didn't start an argument,

267
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,539
listen, that's it, that's enough.

268
00:12:07,539 --> 00:12:08,580
Okay.

269
00:12:08,580 --> 00:12:09,179
That's enough.

270
00:12:09,179 --> 00:12:11,159
I don't know why you want to express so much energy.

271
00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:12,179
That's enough.

272
00:12:12,179 --> 00:12:14,080
Guys, that's enough.

273
00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:14,879
Okay, who's next?

274
00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:15,799
Who's in the right?

275
00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:16,600
Who's not?

276
00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,639
David, that's enough.

277
00:12:17,639 --> 00:12:18,820
Sit down.

278
00:12:18,820 --> 00:12:21,080
There's another very important subject you have to address.

279
00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,360
Well, if you didn't start an argument, I'd let you speak.

280
00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,759
Okay, that's your opinion.

281
00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:25,500
All right.

282
00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:26,600
Well, I accept it.

283
00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,519
You want to stop arguing and keep going back and forth at me, then you can speak.

284
00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:31,840
I said you were right.

285
00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,200
Okay, then speak.

286
00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,879
Go ahead.

287
00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:45,090
The second subject, very quick, and I'll get off it, then everybody can do whatever they want to do.

288
00:12:45,090 --> 00:12:47,220
Yeah, okay.

289
00:12:47,220 --> 00:12:49,779
So in regards to the libelous.

290
00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:57,860
The statement that you made to me, that's not this court decision, but you allowed it to go on the last meeting.

291
00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,740
That's not your reason.

292
00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:00,580
I didn't say that.

293
00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:03,960
I said that I'm not the chairman.

294
00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,049
Can I speak on the libelous accusation you made about me?

295
00:13:08,049 --> 00:13:08,629
Go ahead.

296
00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:09,529
Okay, thank you.

297
00:13:09,529 --> 00:13:11,570
I'm a big freedom of speech person, go ahead.

298
00:13:11,570 --> 00:13:15,129
Thank you.

299
00:13:15,129 --> 00:13:22,669
I was accused of usurping the microphone, not at the last meeting, but the meeting before.

300
00:13:22,669 --> 00:13:23,990
Bill has said it many times.

301
00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:29,350
That I've usurped the, that's a criminal act, okay?

302
00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:31,110
That's the words that were used by Ms.

303
00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:37,049
So, very quickly, and I'm going to get off this fast.

304
00:13:37,049 --> 00:13:44,669
The moderator will recognize the member of the select board of petitioners, which I was, the petitioner of that article,

305
00:13:44,669 --> 00:13:54,679
to move the adoption of the article for the, it goes on and on, it's, this is by statute, out of the moderators, you know what.

306
00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:06,049
What they want you to do is, the petitioner should be at a microphone, or ask Ms.

307
00:14:06,049 --> 00:14:09,350
to explain to a petitioner.

308
00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:10,409
That's what I did.

309
00:14:10,409 --> 00:14:18,029
I walked up, I asked, I just came off that surgery, and I said, I need that block.

310
00:14:18,029 --> 00:14:20,129
I've been in this town 50 years.

311
00:14:20,129 --> 00:14:22,470
So many people walked up to that microphone, Bill.

312
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:23,909
It shouldn't talk to me.

313
00:14:23,909 --> 00:14:25,750
Okay, I'm just telling you, stay on this.

314
00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:26,470
Yep.

315
00:14:26,470 --> 00:14:27,590
He's going to criticize you during this.

316
00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:27,690
Okay.

317
00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:28,529
During these meetings.

318
00:14:28,529 --> 00:14:36,889
All right, so that's the, again, that was a town meeting, it wasn't a select board meeting.

319
00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:39,690
There was a moderator in charge, okay?

320
00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:43,889
So, I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you, that wasn't this board, okay?

321
00:14:43,889 --> 00:14:46,230
Okay, I got to understand something before I go in for it.

322
00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:48,480
Isn't that a year and a half ago?

323
00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,460
Why aren't you suddenly bringing it up?

324
00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:52,000
Well, I understand.

325
00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,700
The statements from town officials are being made for the select board.

326
00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:58,779
And I can't defend those.

327
00:14:58,779 --> 00:15:02,299
That means I'm guilty.

328
00:15:02,299 --> 00:15:11,659
So what you're telling me is when you allow that type of talk to happen, that the planned board committee is insane,

329
00:15:11,659 --> 00:15:19,179
the amount of information that is getting is insane, I'm supposed to just sit back and say thank you very much?

330
00:15:19,179 --> 00:15:21,539
And that's not so.

331
00:15:21,539 --> 00:15:24,759
I just gave you a chance to defend yourself.

332
00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:25,700
Oh, thank you.

333
00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:27,259
So the last thing, and I'll get off it.

334
00:15:27,259 --> 00:15:29,299
People can do whatever they want.

335
00:15:29,299 --> 00:15:40,019
I was approached by a town member two weeks ago, as a member of the CDA, asking me what's going on down there.

336
00:15:40,019 --> 00:15:41,980
I did not know.

337
00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:44,509
I came to the town meeting.

338
00:15:44,509 --> 00:15:54,179
I asked Deb Bouchard during the meeting because lack of communication over the FEMA thing, not being able to knock your house down.

339
00:15:54,179 --> 00:15:56,100
We haven't spoke.

340
00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:58,120
I spoke to her outside.

341
00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480
I said, well, please, no, we haven't spoken.

342
00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:10,210
I asked her during the meeting when the house next to the river got blocked.

343
00:16:10,210 --> 00:16:12,990
I said, do we have the proper permit there?

344
00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:17,029
Her answer to me, and she denied this, but that's fine.

345
00:16:17,029 --> 00:16:18,509
I was out of town.

346
00:16:18,509 --> 00:16:22,379
I don't know what was going on.

347
00:16:22,379 --> 00:16:25,320
Turns out we needed a lot of permits.

348
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,240
And they needed a lot of permits.

349
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,580
When I coached-

350
00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:31,940
Please talk to me then.

351
00:16:31,940 --> 00:16:32,139
Okay.

352
00:16:32,139 --> 00:16:32,639
When I coached them.

353
00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:36,580
When I coached the owner, she told me she had everything she needed.

354
00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:39,860
And I said, fine.

355
00:16:39,860 --> 00:16:47,860
I got accused of screaming at her at one of the meetings, which I looked at and looked at the video, never happened.

356
00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:52,039
Denied that for a little bit, but I didn't scream at her.

357
00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:55,200
I've never stood up to threaten anybody in my life.

358
00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,899
I didn't hope all these people could say the same.

359
00:17:00,899 --> 00:17:07,109
Long story short, the state sent me from the asbestos.

360
00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:18,410
Asbestos and lead, any renovation, private or public, to just comment, it's a private church, that's fine, he's not wrong.

361
00:17:18,410 --> 00:17:20,089
Well, it doesn't matter.

362
00:17:20,089 --> 00:17:25,690
When you do any demolition, any demolition, okay?

363
00:17:25,690 --> 00:17:26,890
You haven't yet, let me finish.

364
00:17:26,890 --> 00:17:29,609
Yeah, but I want to let you finish, but we've got to wrap it up.

365
00:17:29,609 --> 00:17:30,470
Well, we will wrap it up.

366
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:31,410
Okay.

367
00:17:31,410 --> 00:17:34,690
These are kind of important things you guys can just let me wrap it up.

368
00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:37,529
I understand your opinion, but I need to wrap it up.

369
00:17:37,529 --> 00:17:41,529
I need to wrap it up, I'm a member of three boards in this town.

370
00:17:41,529 --> 00:17:42,089
I understand.

371
00:17:42,089 --> 00:17:47,940
Okay, first thing you got to do is get a fire safety permit.

372
00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:48,559
Look at.

373
00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:54,440
To let me finish, because there was something said during the meeting, you didn't need a permit.

374
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,140
I'm just trying to address who said it.

375
00:17:57,140 --> 00:18:01,839
You need a fire safety permit for a licensed state,

376
00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:06,299
licensed lead and asbestos inspector to come down to the building,

377
00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:15,500
recognize what's in it, if anything has to be remediated, remediated before demolition can be done.

378
00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:20,940
It wasn't done, they sent, I know who to stop.

379
00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:27,559
Now, I don't know what's going on, I'm sorry that happened, I was told they had all the permits.

380
00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:33,099
But when you've got people in towns, what's going on,

381
00:18:33,099 --> 00:18:37,900
I just like the sign, I know how this thing's going to snowball.

382
00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,059
Okay. Another two years.

383
00:18:39,059 --> 00:18:45,549
So, you know, I have hours of stuff, what I'm going to do, I'm going to copy it to you.

384
00:18:45,549 --> 00:18:49,269
You guys can leave it at your leisure, this is insane as it is.

385
00:18:49,269 --> 00:18:52,009
I will copy all the boards like I always do.

386
00:18:52,009 --> 00:18:59,700
Last point, somebody said, I'm sending stuff with just my name, I have the right to do that.

387
00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:05,319
In Vermont, when I go out to anybody, DLCT, lawyers, whatever,

388
00:19:05,319 --> 00:19:08,859
personal ZDA, planning commission.

389
00:19:08,859 --> 00:19:09,880
Mm-hm.

390
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:10,559
Conservation.

391
00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:14,619
I may have missed one, so I, you know, I've been doing this all the time.

392
00:19:14,619 --> 00:19:21,099
I don't sign it that way because I think it is pompous for me to my board members,

393
00:19:21,099 --> 00:19:27,819
this way, get yourselves, ZDA, planning commission, select board chair.

394
00:19:27,819 --> 00:19:31,240
You name it, I've been on it this time.

395
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,660
So, I tried it.

396
00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:33,920
And- Okay.

397
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,900
We're powerful this time.

398
00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:36,579
I really have.

399
00:19:36,579 --> 00:19:37,200
I understand that.

400
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,180
From the right on through.

401
00:19:39,180 --> 00:19:39,779
I understand that.

402
00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:42,079
You're sitting in this building that I built right here.

403
00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:42,740
I do this.

404
00:19:42,740 --> 00:19:44,099
Okay. And a lot of the shield warrants have.

405
00:19:44,099 --> 00:19:47,059
Okay. Let's just hold and sell all our money, right?

406
00:19:47,059 --> 00:19:48,740
Mm-hm.

407
00:19:48,740 --> 00:19:54,710
To be treated like this, anybody can call me any time.

408
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:58,779
I've signed every one of my emails.

409
00:19:58,779 --> 00:20:05,740
If I didn't send it through war the way I'm doing it, you tell me, what am I doing wrong?

410
00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:09,460
If I don't send it through war, I'm in violation of the open meeting law.

411
00:20:09,460 --> 00:20:10,180
Mm-hm.

412
00:20:10,299 --> 00:20:12,789
I don't have to do it.

413
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:13,289
Thank you.

414
00:20:13,289 --> 00:20:20,880
Hi, we live on a private road, and we're having a meeting.

415
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:27,299
I'm just wondering if there's any guidelines to maintain the standard maintenance for private roads.

416
00:20:27,299 --> 00:20:29,099
And we would get that information.

417
00:20:29,099 --> 00:20:34,619
Like, I'm assuming you need to have a ambulance and a private truck to get up the road, but, so that's a standard there.

418
00:20:34,619 --> 00:20:37,539
But is there anything written or guidelines for that?

419
00:20:37,539 --> 00:20:38,920
Who owns the roads?

420
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,240
It's probably the only way.

421
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:40,740
Mm-hm.

422
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,019
This is up here?

423
00:20:42,019 --> 00:20:44,180
Adjacent property owners.

424
00:20:44,180 --> 00:20:44,680
Yeah.

425
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,180
Yeah.

426
00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:49,940
I personally don't think there is any guidelines through the calendar at all.

427
00:20:49,940 --> 00:20:56,500
Aren't there some, like, as far as, like, having to do with driveways and stuff like that?

428
00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,059
The way I understand it, it's up to the owner of the private road.

429
00:20:59,059 --> 00:21:05,519
I've been concerned about these issues for a long time, especially as development might continue in private roads.

430
00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:06,440
Right.

431
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,099
I mean, eventually, there's going to be taxpayers on that private road.

432
00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:18,680
I would recommend it to live on a private road and there's some kind of contractual agreement that would go along with that.

433
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:25,579
Yeah, we have that, but what we need to just kind of, like, there's different interests, like, some people don't use their land much.

434
00:21:25,579 --> 00:21:27,579
You're asking like standards, right?

435
00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:35,579
You're asking for standards that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, that would be, I mean, we can, we can update, but I don't think there's any standards.

436
00:21:35,579 --> 00:21:38,039
I think it falls on who owns the road, that might have to be.

437
00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:40,099
We've been through, well, we've been through a lot.

438
00:21:40,099 --> 00:21:42,099
That, that's been through the same, yeah.

439
00:21:42,099 --> 00:21:50,099
We have, um, I worked with Dave and, I mean, they're really smart and true standards.

440
00:21:50,099 --> 00:22:00,099
It is, and I think I worked with Bill Levine also, it's really important to have a place to turn right for fire.

441
00:22:00,099 --> 00:22:03,099
I know that's, am I correct, Bill?

442
00:22:03,099 --> 00:22:04,099
Yep.

443
00:22:04,099 --> 00:22:05,099
Yeah.

444
00:22:05,099 --> 00:22:08,099
And I think that was, like, the main thing that kind of hit home with us.

445
00:22:08,099 --> 00:22:09,039
My husband and I.

446
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:10,039
Yeah.

447
00:22:10,099 --> 00:22:14,099
He overdoes everything, so the road is quite nice.

448
00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:15,099
Which is great.

449
00:22:15,099 --> 00:22:18,099
But it's, it's wide enough to pass.

450
00:22:18,099 --> 00:22:19,099
So he knows.

451
00:22:19,099 --> 00:22:20,099
Yep.

452
00:22:20,099 --> 00:22:21,099
Yep.

453
00:22:21,099 --> 00:22:22,099
With a little room.

454
00:22:22,099 --> 00:22:23,099
And so if you're pulling a trailer.

455
00:22:23,099 --> 00:22:25,099
But it's not a standard.

456
00:22:25,099 --> 00:22:26,099
Right.

457
00:22:26,099 --> 00:22:27,099
We have the common roads that aren't wide enough to.

458
00:22:27,099 --> 00:22:31,099
I mean, if the person that owns the road is not willing to do it.

459
00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:32,099
Right.

460
00:22:32,099 --> 00:22:37,099
This is a big problem, this is a big problem that this town really needs to address and wrap our, wrap our heads around because.

461
00:22:37,099 --> 00:22:38,099
We can ask Dave.

462
00:22:38,099 --> 00:22:39,099
It's going to cause major issues.

463
00:22:39,099 --> 00:22:48,099
We've got five, six taxpayers say they bought behind the homeowner that owns the road on the front and he decides he's going to stop maintaining the road back there for whatever reason.

464
00:22:48,099 --> 00:22:49,099
Yeah.

465
00:22:49,099 --> 00:22:50,099
There's six, eight people that live behind there.

466
00:22:50,099 --> 00:22:51,099
There's different impacts.

467
00:22:51,099 --> 00:22:52,099
There'll be.

468
00:22:52,099 --> 00:22:54,099
Isn't there some standards for the fire department?

469
00:22:54,099 --> 00:22:55,099
I don't think Dave has an opinion.

470
00:22:55,099 --> 00:22:56,099
Public safety standards?

471
00:22:56,099 --> 00:22:57,099
Because he doesn't.

472
00:22:57,099 --> 00:22:58,099
On something new.

473
00:22:58,099 --> 00:22:59,099
He doesn't maintain it.

474
00:22:59,099 --> 00:23:00,099
Right.

475
00:23:00,099 --> 00:23:01,099
So I really don't think.

476
00:23:01,099 --> 00:23:02,099
You can't force anybody.

477
00:23:02,099 --> 00:23:03,099
No.

478
00:23:03,099 --> 00:23:04,099
Yeah.

479
00:23:04,099 --> 00:23:05,099
Yeah.

480
00:23:05,099 --> 00:23:06,099
Yeah.

481
00:23:06,099 --> 00:23:07,099
But anyway, we've got a name, so I just wanted to.

482
00:23:07,099 --> 00:23:08,099
Okay.

483
00:23:08,099 --> 00:23:09,099
It wouldn't hurt to ask, and you might have knowledge.

484
00:23:09,099 --> 00:23:10,099
It's not his responsibility, but he's, Dave's been working the roads for a long while.

485
00:23:10,099 --> 00:23:11,099
He does a really good job.

486
00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:12,099
He might have some suggestions.

487
00:23:12,099 --> 00:23:13,099
Yeah.

488
00:23:13,099 --> 00:23:14,099
But it's not, you know, written.

489
00:23:14,099 --> 00:23:15,099
I would see if you can negotiate that type of thing into whatever kind of contractual

490
00:23:15,099 --> 00:23:16,099
agreement that we have.

491
00:23:16,099 --> 00:23:17,099
Yeah.

492
00:23:17,099 --> 00:23:18,099
We have a contract.

493
00:23:18,099 --> 00:23:19,099
Just to make sure that it's, who files it?

494
00:23:19,099 --> 00:23:20,099
Do you guys take it?

495
00:23:20,099 --> 00:23:21,099
John does.

496
00:23:21,099 --> 00:23:22,099
John Moore.

497
00:23:22,099 --> 00:23:23,099
And, you know, it's just the rate.

498
00:23:23,099 --> 00:23:24,099
Yeah.

499
00:23:24,099 --> 00:23:25,099
Yeah.

500
00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:26,099
Yeah.

501
00:23:26,099 --> 00:23:27,099
Yeah.

502
00:23:27,099 --> 00:23:28,099
Yeah.

503
00:23:28,099 --> 00:23:29,099
Yeah.

504
00:23:29,099 --> 00:23:30,099
Yeah.

505
00:23:30,099 --> 00:23:31,099
Yeah.

506
00:23:31,099 --> 00:23:32,099
Yeah.

507
00:23:32,099 --> 00:23:33,099
Yeah.

508
00:23:33,099 --> 00:23:34,099
Yeah.

509
00:23:34,099 --> 00:23:35,099
Yeah.

510
00:23:35,099 --> 00:23:36,099
Yeah.

511
00:23:36,099 --> 00:23:37,099
Yeah.

512
00:23:37,099 --> 00:23:38,099
Yeah.

513
00:23:38,099 --> 00:23:39,099
soc cubes.

514
00:23:39,099 --> 00:23:40,099
All of those things.

515
00:23:40,099 --> 00:23:41,099
But so there's a that's a problem.

516
00:23:41,099 --> 00:23:42,099
Yeah.

517
00:23:42,099 --> 00:23:43,099
It's a problem apart from other things in the community.

518
00:23:43,099 --> 00:23:44,099
There's problems to help people who don't want to be psych jardined.

519
00:23:44,099 --> 00:23:45,099
Yeah.

520
00:23:45,099 --> 00:23:46,099
So here on the state of California, whoa, we can get real hair on.

521
00:23:46,099 --> 00:23:47,099
I guess you will do that.

522
00:23:47,099 --> 00:23:48,099
Yeah.

523
00:23:48,099 --> 00:23:49,099
But this is just a basic standard of care just so you can drive up the road.

524
00:23:49,099 --> 00:23:50,099
And I was thinking you know to allow fire trucks, and we didn't .

525
00:23:50,099 --> 00:23:51,099
Hey David, you know, it's a problem.

526
00:23:51,099 --> 00:23:52,099
There's a bunch of them in the town.

527
00:23:52,099 --> 00:23:53,099
Everyone's stashing names in their driveways and all.

528
00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:54,099
So.

529
00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:55,099
Yeah.

530
00:23:55,099 --> 00:23:56,099
And it's going to be an issue.

531
00:23:56,099 --> 00:23:57,099
All right.

532
00:23:57,099 --> 00:23:58,099
And then I have two other questions.

533
00:23:58,099 --> 00:23:59,099
Well, I'm sorry presentation.

534
00:23:59,099 --> 00:24:00,099
This is .

535
00:24:00,099 --> 00:24:09,099
So I participated in Clean Up Day, and I participated in that three years ago.

536
00:24:09,099 --> 00:24:18,099
And three years ago I discovered a five gallon container of spent motor oil that was buried into the ditch that was at the beginning of Pondyte Road,

537
00:24:18,099 --> 00:24:21,099
which is, you know, we're pretty close to Hudson Road.

538
00:24:21,099 --> 00:24:29,099
So I reported it to, I believe, Dictator, or it might have been here at the select board meeting, I'm not sure.

539
00:24:29,099 --> 00:24:34,259
But that was verbal, so I'm thinking, okay, if I wrote something verbally, I might forget that.

540
00:24:34,259 --> 00:24:39,259
I probably would forget it, because I don't, you know, I have so much going on in my mind.

541
00:24:39,259 --> 00:24:43,259
So I'm wondering, something like, to me that's very concerning.

542
00:24:43,259 --> 00:24:49,259
So if something like that happens again, I'm suggesting that, or maybe you have better ideas,

543
00:24:49,259 --> 00:24:51,259
write it up with my name.

544
00:24:51,259 --> 00:24:54,259
Or, you know, the person's email address, who witnessed it.

545
00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:59,259
And just to find out what's going to, you know, how's that going to be done.

546
00:24:59,259 --> 00:25:03,259
And if somehow that could get back to the person that expressed the concern.

547
00:25:03,259 --> 00:25:05,259
Or that person could follow up.

548
00:25:05,259 --> 00:25:09,259
So that container, you didn't take it out of there, you reported it.

549
00:25:09,259 --> 00:25:11,259
Well, I tried to, because I didn't.

550
00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:13,259
Yeah, no, I understand.

551
00:25:13,259 --> 00:25:15,259
So anyway, didn't finish the story.

552
00:25:15,259 --> 00:25:19,259
This year, I went back, my husband and I, and we had tools.

553
00:25:19,259 --> 00:25:21,259
I said, let's just check and see how that's doing.

554
00:25:21,259 --> 00:25:23,259
And it was still there.

555
00:25:23,259 --> 00:25:28,259
And it was all, you know, the motor wheel was gone, but it was gunky.

556
00:25:28,259 --> 00:25:31,259
It was the same container, you know, three years later.

557
00:25:31,259 --> 00:25:34,259
And so, nothing happened, it was there.

558
00:25:34,259 --> 00:25:39,259
And so, I feel bad that, oh, I should have checked on that back then.

559
00:25:39,259 --> 00:25:43,259
Well, yeah, there should be some kind of follow-up on it.

560
00:25:43,259 --> 00:25:44,259
Right.

561
00:25:44,259 --> 00:25:46,259
So any thoughts on that?

562
00:25:46,259 --> 00:25:49,259
That was on the end of, it's on Klondike Road,

563
00:25:49,259 --> 00:25:53,259
but we were getting out right before Carl and Shirley's on that same side of the street.

564
00:25:55,259 --> 00:25:57,259
And it was kind of close to the line.

565
00:25:57,259 --> 00:26:00,259
Right, yeah, okay, right there by the dump.

566
00:26:00,259 --> 00:26:02,259
The dump.

567
00:26:02,259 --> 00:26:04,259
Did you ever look over the bank there?

568
00:26:04,259 --> 00:26:06,259
Oh, my gosh.

569
00:26:06,259 --> 00:26:08,259
Maybe they missed the oil.

570
00:26:08,259 --> 00:26:10,259
Yeah, they missed the oil.

571
00:26:10,259 --> 00:26:15,259
Well, that would be pretty awful if people were dumping motor oil over that banking

572
00:26:15,259 --> 00:26:17,259
and then it's going down and it's still up.

573
00:26:17,259 --> 00:26:18,259
Yeah.

574
00:26:18,259 --> 00:26:21,259
There's a potpourri, there's a potpourri of stuff down there.

575
00:26:21,259 --> 00:26:24,259
There should be game cameras there to catch these bastards.

576
00:26:24,259 --> 00:26:30,259
Well, there's a lot on the Clarksburg side, right from the bottom of Carl's,

577
00:26:30,259 --> 00:26:34,259
right on Clarksburg, where that banking is atrocious.

578
00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:37,259
There's a sign that says there's cameras, but there's no cameras.

579
00:26:37,259 --> 00:26:38,259
Right.

580
00:26:38,259 --> 00:26:40,259
I hate to say that on camera.

581
00:26:40,259 --> 00:26:46,259
But, you know, Clarksburg took a step up on that.

582
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:52,259
It's been reported, the dumping's been reported for 30 years, at least 40 years.

583
00:26:52,259 --> 00:26:54,259
Yeah, so that's a huff, that's a huff.

584
00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:55,259
Yeah.

585
00:26:55,259 --> 00:27:00,259
You know, there's a lot less dumping on Klondike and Risky Ranch now.

586
00:27:00,259 --> 00:27:01,259
Yes, we saw that.

587
00:27:01,259 --> 00:27:04,259
And there's a reason for that, and there's cameras.

588
00:27:04,259 --> 00:27:06,259
I was actually, because we...

589
00:27:06,259 --> 00:27:08,259
Cameras play a big role in that.

590
00:27:08,259 --> 00:27:09,259
Oh, okay.

591
00:27:09,259 --> 00:27:10,259
Yeah.

592
00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:12,259
So we were there three years ago, there was, you know, couches and all sorts of stuff.

593
00:27:12,259 --> 00:27:13,259
Always.

594
00:27:13,259 --> 00:27:14,259
And then...

595
00:27:14,259 --> 00:27:15,259
Yeah, almost nothing now.

596
00:27:15,259 --> 00:27:16,259
Yeah.

597
00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:17,259
So that's good.

598
00:27:17,259 --> 00:27:18,259
Yeah.

599
00:27:18,259 --> 00:27:19,259
That's a good message.

600
00:27:19,259 --> 00:27:20,259
Yeah.

601
00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:21,259
So cameras make a difference, and then follow-ups are good.

602
00:27:21,259 --> 00:27:22,259
You know, once you see it, you know, call the authorities, take care of it.

603
00:27:22,259 --> 00:27:23,259
Well, I did.

604
00:27:23,259 --> 00:27:24,259
That's what they know.

605
00:27:24,259 --> 00:27:25,259
But it's just something more substantial than normal.

606
00:27:25,259 --> 00:27:26,259
Yeah.

607
00:27:26,259 --> 00:27:27,259
You know what I mean?

608
00:27:27,259 --> 00:27:28,259
Oh, yeah.

609
00:27:28,259 --> 00:27:29,259
And follow-up.

610
00:27:29,259 --> 00:27:30,259
Yeah.

611
00:27:30,259 --> 00:27:31,259
You know, just so...

612
00:27:31,259 --> 00:27:32,259
So I just...

613
00:27:32,259 --> 00:27:33,259
If I'm reporting it, I should follow-up with...

614
00:27:33,259 --> 00:27:34,259
If you report it to us, I mean, we'll follow-up indefinitely, and we should have some situation.

615
00:27:34,259 --> 00:27:35,259
Something like that.

616
00:27:35,259 --> 00:27:36,259
Something like that.

617
00:27:36,259 --> 00:27:37,259
Yeah.

618
00:27:37,259 --> 00:27:38,259
Yeah.

619
00:27:38,259 --> 00:27:39,259
Yeah.

620
00:27:39,259 --> 00:27:40,259
Yeah.

621
00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:41,259
Yeah.

622
00:27:41,259 --> 00:27:42,259
Yeah.

623
00:27:42,259 --> 00:27:43,259
Yeah.

624
00:27:43,259 --> 00:27:44,259
Yeah.

625
00:27:44,259 --> 00:27:45,259
Yeah.

626
00:27:45,259 --> 00:27:46,259
I just want to make sure.

627
00:27:46,259 --> 00:27:47,259
Something.

628
00:27:47,259 --> 00:27:48,259
Something.

629
00:27:48,259 --> 00:27:49,259
Yeah.

630
00:27:49,259 --> 00:27:50,259
Okay.

631
00:27:50,259 --> 00:27:51,259
Protocop.

632
00:27:51,259 --> 00:27:53,470
Okay.

633
00:27:53,470 --> 00:27:54,470
Great.

634
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:55,470
Great.

635
00:27:55,470 --> 00:27:56,470
Thank you very much.

636
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:57,470
You're welcome.

637
00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:58,470
You're welcome.

638
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:59,470
Anyone else?

639
00:27:59,470 --> 00:28:00,470
Nope?

640
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:01,470
Sit down.

641
00:28:01,470 --> 00:28:02,470
Yeah.

642
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:03,470
You're not a town resident.

643
00:28:03,470 --> 00:28:04,470
Sit...

644
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:05,470
No.

645
00:28:05,470 --> 00:28:06,470
I'm just kidding.

646
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:07,470
Alright.

647
00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:08,470
He's a taxpayer.

648
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:09,470
No, no, no.

649
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:10,470
You take...

650
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:11,470
We like your taxes.

651
00:28:11,470 --> 00:28:12,470
Go ahead.

652
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:13,470
I was in a local ATV club.

653
00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:14,470
We're gonna go up this Saturday, weather-free.

654
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:15,470
If not Sunday, we clean up, find like...

655
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:16,470
I just said there's nothing up there.

656
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:21,089
yeah you're right you're right there's a few check our signs I don't know why they

657
00:28:21,089 --> 00:28:36,269
don't take their cans home yeah that's great thank you yeah I don't see your

658
00:28:36,269 --> 00:29:00,269
hand off come on go I know there's a lot of stuff that has to come up and the

659
00:29:00,269 --> 00:29:04,470
first thing I want to say I want to apologize to this woman sit right here

660
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:06,250
Stephanie on behalf of the

661
00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:16,950
time at least my part as to the harassment and boring criminal activity

662
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:20,470
towards you

663
00:29:20,809 --> 00:29:28,099
as you guys know you you've got a bunch of letters yeah what I've done Jim I

664
00:29:28,099 --> 00:29:31,559
really don't want to get into it too much in this meeting because I want you

665
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:36,799
go in the executive session and talk about no but I'm just saying I

666
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,420
I don't want name-calling.

667
00:29:38,619 --> 00:29:39,799
No name-calling or nothing.

668
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:43,660
But I'm just saying that it's time.

669
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:46,940
Seriously, it's time.

670
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Yep.

671
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,059
And it's...

672
00:29:49,059 --> 00:29:51,799
Never mind, I won't say nothing else.

673
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,819
No, I understand.

674
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,660
Meetings go on for three hours,

675
00:29:57,940 --> 00:29:59,359
and we have one subject.

676
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,420
Right.

677
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:02,240
Three hours is an exaggeration, I'm sorry.

678
00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:03,680
Not at all.

679
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,220
Okay.

680
00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:06,980
And it goes on and on and on.

681
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:10,859
And so, everything that was just discussed

682
00:30:10,859 --> 00:30:13,259
as far as highway, byway, and all of that stuff,

683
00:30:13,579 --> 00:30:17,339
it was because he misinterpreted a U.S. code

684
00:30:17,339 --> 00:30:18,539
that he was referring to.

685
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:19,579
It's all in the emails.

686
00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:20,960
We were to it.

687
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:24,099
It's 131.12, I think it was.

688
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,039
It's a U.S. code.

689
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,480
And it refers to...

690
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,839
Now, get this.

691
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:31,039
Billboards.

692
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:33,839
That was his scenic route.

693
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,279
That was his setback.

694
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:38,880
And that was his umpteen hours

695
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,930
at every meeting,

696
00:30:41,009 --> 00:30:42,490
taking up all the time in the world.

697
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:45,529
And several people here in this room

698
00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:47,690
spent countless hours researching.

699
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,329
And you know why VLCT,

700
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:52,829
and you know why BRC and all of them

701
00:30:52,829 --> 00:30:54,049
had no idea,

702
00:30:54,390 --> 00:30:56,269
couldn't give us a good answer?

703
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:59,329
It's because it was for billboards.

704
00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:00,490
It had nothing to do with...

705
00:31:00,490 --> 00:31:01,849
We're going to look at that.

706
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:04,849
At the end of the day,

707
00:31:05,779 --> 00:31:06,799
I believe,

708
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,920
and I'm not going to speak for everyone,

709
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:10,740
but I believe the sign will be put up.

710
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:13,930
I think that we've looked at it enough.

711
00:31:14,349 --> 00:31:15,109
I've looked at it.

712
00:31:15,569 --> 00:31:17,569
The bylaws, I look...

713
00:31:17,569 --> 00:31:20,230
I'm not referring to the sign at all.

714
00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:22,190
Well, that's what I'm referring to is

715
00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:25,190
this setback stuff and back and forth.

716
00:31:25,609 --> 00:31:29,529
I mean, I go all the way back to me and you

717
00:31:29,529 --> 00:31:33,329
talking about the law about the setbacks

718
00:31:33,329 --> 00:31:34,730
and putting the sign up.

719
00:31:35,349 --> 00:31:35,809
Nope.

720
00:31:35,809 --> 00:31:37,130
We should have put a sign up two years ago.

721
00:31:38,849 --> 00:31:40,109
The last thing I want to say

722
00:31:40,109 --> 00:31:41,569
is this is you're going to shut me up too,

723
00:31:41,730 --> 00:31:43,349
is that we don't need somebody

724
00:31:43,349 --> 00:31:46,069
that's a rogue person going around threatening people.

725
00:31:46,569 --> 00:31:46,809
Okay.

726
00:31:46,849 --> 00:31:48,269
Or acting in a threatening way.

727
00:31:49,309 --> 00:31:50,509
That's not one of the reports here.

728
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:51,230
Okay.

729
00:31:51,549 --> 00:31:51,789
Okay.

730
00:31:53,740 --> 00:31:54,180
Pam?

731
00:31:55,619 --> 00:31:56,059
Sorry.

732
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:57,839
I didn't see your hand.

733
00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:02,519
So, I'm not involved in this,

734
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:04,759
but I've obviously heard some stuff.

735
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,259
And I want to remind you,

736
00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:12,549
the select board appoints members to boards.

737
00:32:13,089 --> 00:32:16,930
In my mind, the select board is responsible

738
00:32:16,930 --> 00:32:19,789
for their appointments to the board.

739
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:24,650
The select board is responsible for making sure

740
00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:29,829
that if appointees are doing things

741
00:32:29,829 --> 00:32:35,390
that are libelous, slanderous, intimidating people,

742
00:32:35,390 --> 00:32:37,390
or in any way,

743
00:32:37,609 --> 00:32:40,589
acting in an inappropriate manner,

744
00:32:41,369 --> 00:32:45,089
the select board has not only the right, I think,

745
00:32:45,569 --> 00:32:47,369
to remove the person from the board,

746
00:32:48,269 --> 00:32:50,490
the select board has a responsibility

747
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,980
to do what is right for the town.

748
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:04,700
And we cannot, as a town, we can't have the things

749
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,000
that have been said to have gone on.

750
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,859
We can't have boards that don't function because,

751
00:33:11,859 --> 00:33:14,900
and this is not personal, it's not even about one person.

752
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:17,039
We cannot have boards that don't function

753
00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:20,380
because someone is such a problem

754
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,579
that the board cannot function.

755
00:33:23,259 --> 00:33:29,009
It's up to you as the select board to do the right thing

756
00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:35,380
for all parties and make sure that the citizens

757
00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:38,009
of this town are not, you know,

758
00:33:38,009 --> 00:33:45,470
not subject to harassment, again, libel, slander,

759
00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:52,430
and also not liable for lawsuits that would come from that.

760
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:56,740
Because, you know, I'm sure there's many people

761
00:33:56,740 --> 00:34:01,660
that push it a little too far and now the town's going to be

762
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:04,200
in a lawsuit because, you know what, they don't have to put

763
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,779
up with it and they're not going to put up with it.

764
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:09,719
So it's your responsibility.

765
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,590
It's your responsibility as the select board to deal

766
00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:17,789
with the appointments that you have made.

767
00:34:19,869 --> 00:34:20,130
Thank you.

768
00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:21,130
Is that it?

769
00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:21,369
Deb?

770
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,400
Well, I really, truthfully, agree.

771
00:34:26,849 --> 00:34:34,800
I listened as much as I could without really wanting to stand

772
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,000
up and say liar, liar, liar.

773
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,199
I literally have not spoken with Mr. Saldo in, we're probably going

774
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,340
on two years, there were no conversations out there.

775
00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:51,059
There has been no direct request.

776
00:34:51,059 --> 00:34:54,219
I've made direct requests of him for paperwork

777
00:34:54,219 --> 00:35:00,710
that he's promised, no response for phone call, email.

778
00:35:00,710 --> 00:35:08,239
I don't, I don't want to, maybe he thought he talked to me, but.

779
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,480
That's, yeah, that's.

780
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,239
I guess I needed to be on record.

781
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,800
Yeah, that's right.

782
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,840
That's not fair.

783
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,440
Yeah.

784
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,639
Okay, thank you.

785
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:18,639
Real brief on my end.

786
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:19,179
Okay.

787
00:35:19,179 --> 00:35:20,380
Do you agree, Bush?

788
00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:23,579
A couple things, just one in general.

789
00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:26,559
I think that, you know, I think you'll touch on it.

790
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,980
I'm assuming whenever you touch as a board, as a whole,

791
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:37,820
with regards to conduct, code of conduct, like Marta had mentioned,

792
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:42,019
regarding people kind of overstepping their bounds and,

793
00:35:42,019 --> 00:35:45,159
you know, representing themselves as part of the board.

794
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:46,619
So I think that's really important.

795
00:35:46,619 --> 00:35:50,199
That there almost be a chain of command.

796
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,659
You know, when I had a question for the select board,

797
00:35:53,659 --> 00:35:55,360
I went with Ray Comancy.

798
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,860
And I asked my question to Comancy.

799
00:35:56,860 --> 00:35:57,920
I didn't come to you.

800
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,820
I didn't go to Doug.

801
00:35:58,820 --> 00:35:59,659
I didn't go to John.

802
00:35:59,659 --> 00:36:00,860
I didn't go to Kurt.

803
00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:04,500
And I mean, I think that's the way both boards should communicate.

804
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,960
And as nor would I represent myself as the chair

805
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,500
from the planning commission without approval

806
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:13,059
from the planning commission.

807
00:36:13,059 --> 00:36:14,159
So I think that's really important to discuss because it's, it's, you know,

808
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:26,659
And the other thing I just want to address real quick is the exact accusation just in reference

809
00:36:26,659 --> 00:36:32,199
to my property, which he said about the tear down and the permits and whatnot.

810
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:37,320
I have John Broker Campbell's emails, like pages and pages and pages.

811
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,159
And now, granted, he no longer is a member of, you know,

812
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:42,159
the board of directors.

813
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:43,159
He's not a member of the board of directors.

814
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:44,579
He's not a member of the board of directors.

815
00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:45,699
He's a member of the board of directors committee.

816
00:36:45,699 --> 00:36:47,679
Just bear with me for one second.

817
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:55,750
I just want to give you his exact, his exact title just

818
00:36:55,750 --> 00:37:01,329
so that I don't misspeak for the, he was John Broker Campbell,

819
00:37:01,329 --> 00:37:05,389
CFM regional floodplain manager, flood, or Vermont Department

820
00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:07,090
of Environmental Conservation,

821
00:37:07,090 --> 00:37:11,090
Watershed Management Division, Rivers and Programs.

822
00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:15,170
So just as a heads up, just to clarify, my end,

823
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:15,989
I went emailing him.

824
00:37:15,989 --> 00:37:20,989
I went to email and Deb, although me and her even butted heads on this one,

825
00:37:20,989 --> 00:37:21,989
but she did her due diligence.

826
00:37:21,989 --> 00:37:25,989
And I can't fault her for actually coming through and saying,

827
00:37:25,989 --> 00:37:26,989
are you sure there's no permits?

828
00:37:26,989 --> 00:37:27,989
Are you sure there's no permits?

829
00:37:27,989 --> 00:37:28,989
And he came right back, stayed in his statues, and sucked their, whatever, something.

830
00:37:28,989 --> 00:37:29,989
The river corridor.

831
00:37:29,989 --> 00:37:30,989
Yeah, the river corridor.

832
00:37:30,989 --> 00:37:43,989
And there, that there is absolutely section 6C in the bylaws prohibits, or says that there's

833
00:37:43,989 --> 00:37:44,989
no permits needed.

834
00:37:44,989 --> 00:37:45,989
Okay.

835
00:37:45,989 --> 00:37:50,989
And that we do not have, we have no permits needed to be pulled, the demolition of my

836
00:37:50,989 --> 00:37:51,989
property.

837
00:37:51,989 --> 00:37:52,989
I am not speaking on behalf of over there.

838
00:37:52,989 --> 00:37:58,030
I'm speaking specifically on that position that she didn't do anything or she didn't

839
00:37:58,030 --> 00:38:03,989
listen to anything and I have just page after page after page, and I'm sure she still has

840
00:38:03,989 --> 00:38:04,989
them.

841
00:38:04,989 --> 00:38:06,989
So I just want to clarify that, you know, that we went through the process.

842
00:38:06,989 --> 00:38:09,989
This gentleman, I got it, or she still worked there.

843
00:38:09,989 --> 00:38:11,989
There was somebody else now that is in that position.

844
00:38:11,989 --> 00:38:14,989
But, nevertheless, we have documentation that says no permits needed.

845
00:38:14,989 --> 00:38:17,190
Okay, that's it. That's it

846
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:24,010
So one thing I want to say I'm going to put it on record as you know, I want this

847
00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:29,280
We have a all boards meeting coming up and what I want our

848
00:38:30,019 --> 00:38:37,320
Words our boards to know is that all the boards in this town are a board

849
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:42,599
No one person has authority at all at all

850
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:46,659
Even the chair runs the meetings, but they don't have authority

851
00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:50,960
We actually vote for our board member to have authority to

852
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,619
sign the bills

853
00:38:53,619 --> 00:38:55,840
So we vote for that

854
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,800
She doesn't just do it on her own and every board member if you're a chair on the planning board

855
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,940
You don't have any more power than Lisa has other than running the meeting

856
00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:11,079
You can't go on your own now. You can go and get information you can call

857
00:39:11,739 --> 00:39:12,539
be

858
00:39:12,539 --> 00:39:20,719
VLTC and you can call the town lawyer, but you can't go and and go on your own and just

859
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:27,199
Say what's on your mind. You can't do that. You can't tell people I'm a select board member and you must

860
00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:33,199
It's not how it works. I bring it back to the board. We vote on it. Then we send a letter

861
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,900
that's how it works whether it's a

862
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:42,340
Dog or someone that's you know doing something wrong or another board member that we need to do

863
00:39:42,539 --> 00:39:44,539
We need to do it out together

864
00:39:45,329 --> 00:39:52,329
We're 20% of a board here. That's all we are. So I want that to be on record and that's enough about that right now

865
00:39:52,329 --> 00:39:54,329
Can I just clarify something? I'm sorry

866
00:39:54,329 --> 00:40:03,570
Just what you said in terms of you can go as a board member and say hey Mike, I just have a question regarding this main law or whatever

867
00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:07,570
But you're not going to represent the board, correct?

868
00:40:07,570 --> 00:40:09,570
You're just going to represent yourself

869
00:40:09,570 --> 00:40:11,570
Sure, I mean it's like we've

870
00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:14,110
We nominate

871
00:40:14,110 --> 00:40:20,010
Liaisons I'm the law enforcement liaison. I can call up the state troopers without coming back and asking

872
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:25,010
And say hey look what's going on here. You were in town the other day

873
00:40:25,010 --> 00:40:28,190
You know someone said there was a break-in at the school book

874
00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:34,050
No one told us something like that and I can ask for information then I bring it back to this board

875
00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:37,070
But you're acting within official capacity

876
00:40:37,070 --> 00:40:38,070
Right

877
00:40:38,070 --> 00:40:38,570
Right

878
00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:41,570
And you cannot make decisions

879
00:40:41,570 --> 00:40:42,369
I can't say

880
00:40:42,369 --> 00:40:47,010
to the law enforcement hey I want you like when we have a sheriff's when we

881
00:40:47,010 --> 00:40:50,530
had the sheriff's contract I want you to come down I want you to do three times

882
00:40:50,530 --> 00:40:57,699
the patrols and then our bill comes in and these guys would hang me you know so

883
00:40:57,699 --> 00:41:01,639
that's it you have to represent yourself as a board member like the decision was

884
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:05,539
already made on the board right all the people up saying hey you know right I'm

885
00:41:05,539 --> 00:41:09,800
selling out from the board yes you know I'm a slut board member it's okay to ride up

886
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,360
there without any licenses and stuff go ahead right up there can't do that where

887
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:25,480
I would all right so that's good reading and approval of the records oh one more

888
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,480
okay

889
00:41:29,579 --> 00:41:35,820
so I had a situation I mean we're we have four of us with buildings and the whole

890
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:40,320
property that seems to be so problematic we have I have been in contact

891
00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:44,639
andGG we'll never been in contact for flick planning I've talked to different

892
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,380
people like what are we good like what do we need to do groundbreaking we're

893
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:55,539
just absolutely just doing weird things I did get a call again from Fire

894
00:41:55,539 --> 00:42:01,679
Marshal who is gonna come down and do eyes on

895
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:05,659
everything was fine he looked everything up however what he told me to do was to

896
00:42:05,659 --> 00:42:10,260
call the fire marshal who is gonna come down and do eyes on he talked to me on the phone he said we didn't actually didn't think we need anything the church

897
00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:12,840
today on the phone was because it was the town,

898
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,260
a select board, acting as the town,

899
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:19,179
even if he didn't feel like there was anything

900
00:42:19,179 --> 00:42:20,880
based on our conversation,

901
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,719
he needed to come down and do eyes on.

902
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,800
I'm fine with it, like we're good,

903
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,099
we have, my dad's a retired fire chief,

904
00:42:29,099 --> 00:42:31,699
we have a volunteer firefighter working with us,

905
00:42:31,699 --> 00:42:36,440
like I am good on everything we need to do, totally fine.

906
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,260
What makes me uncomfortable is this is the third time

907
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:44,019
in two weeks that I've had a situation

908
00:42:44,019 --> 00:42:47,219
where someone has come acting as a board, their board,

909
00:42:47,219 --> 00:42:48,639
whether it's the select board,

910
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:50,820
planning board, zoning board, whatever,

911
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:55,539
and then kind of acted out from that position

912
00:42:55,539 --> 00:42:56,719
without all the information,

913
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,820
without even asking me questions,

914
00:42:58,820 --> 00:43:01,420
without even engaging in conversation.

915
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:04,480
I mean, we're not, we're out in the yard all the time.

916
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,739
People can just stop and chat,

917
00:43:06,739 --> 00:43:08,380
like I'm a very approachable person,

918
00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:10,139
I'm kind of an introvert, I don't like,

919
00:43:10,139 --> 00:43:10,340
you know, I'm not a, you know, I'm not a, you know,

920
00:43:10,340 --> 00:43:14,500
but I'm a nice person, we're approachable,

921
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:16,900
there's nothing that, you know,

922
00:43:16,900 --> 00:43:18,440
but this thing where it just,

923
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,159
it's starting to feel like harassment,

924
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:26,670
and I don't know what the protocol is

925
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:29,389
or what the next steps should or need to be,

926
00:43:29,389 --> 00:43:32,150
I can obviously write a letter,

927
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:33,429
but I just want to know, like,

928
00:43:33,429 --> 00:43:35,949
what are my rights as a citizen of this town?

929
00:43:35,949 --> 00:43:38,489
I am a citizen, I am here, I'm voting, you know.

930
00:43:38,489 --> 00:43:39,769
Can I respond? Sure.

931
00:43:39,769 --> 00:43:41,489
Are you done with your, no,

932
00:43:41,489 --> 00:43:43,309
I don't want to interrupt you.

933
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:46,869
I was the one that made the call to the fire marshal.

934
00:43:46,869 --> 00:43:51,309
I did it in the spirit that I think it's up to me

935
00:43:51,309 --> 00:43:56,030
to make sure that everybody has the right permits,

936
00:43:56,030 --> 00:44:00,519
has gone through all the things that need to be done.

937
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,440
I didn't come, I didn't call up and say,

938
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,980
oh, I'm a big wheel, I identified myself

939
00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:09,679
so he knew my stake in it, why I was calling.

940
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:12,159
So I'm telling you right openly right now,

941
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:13,059
that was the reason,

942
00:44:13,059 --> 00:44:15,699
I was done and if everything is all right

943
00:44:15,699 --> 00:44:18,940
and everything's fine, then I'm good with it.

944
00:44:18,940 --> 00:44:20,059
So what I'm curious about,

945
00:44:20,059 --> 00:44:22,579
if I'm allowed to reply respectfully,

946
00:44:22,579 --> 00:44:24,880
is you're speaking as you.

947
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,320
You represented yourself as the board.

948
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,780
I didn't represent myself as the board.

949
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:33,519
I represented myself as a member of the select board.

950
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:35,579
I wasn't representing the board,

951
00:44:35,579 --> 00:44:38,940
I was just telling my position in the town.

952
00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:42,570
I wasn't saying I was speaking for the board.

953
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:43,769
I'm just very uncomfortable

954
00:44:43,769 --> 00:44:44,730
with calling the state,

955
00:44:44,730 --> 00:44:47,250
with everyone just calling the state on our neighbors.

956
00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:49,969
We're not building any sense of community like that.

957
00:44:49,969 --> 00:44:52,409
What is the deal, why do we want to invite the state

958
00:44:52,409 --> 00:44:54,789
down in here and those around our town?

959
00:44:54,789 --> 00:44:57,489
I've mentioned that a couple thousand times.

960
00:44:57,489 --> 00:45:00,429
Well, one thing I would, again,

961
00:45:00,429 --> 00:45:05,030
if a board member, if you're representing yourself

962
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:06,710
and you're saying, yeah, I am a select board,

963
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:09,469
I do believe that if you represent the board,

964
00:45:09,469 --> 00:45:10,550
you should go through the board.

965
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:12,829
All of us, we should always go through the board.

966
00:45:12,829 --> 00:45:13,769
But if you call up,

967
00:45:13,769 --> 00:45:16,349
if you want to call the fire marshal on your own,

968
00:45:16,349 --> 00:45:17,949
that's nothing I can say about it.

969
00:45:17,949 --> 00:45:21,190
But if you become, if you say you're coming,

970
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:24,659
you're putting that almost in a situation

971
00:45:24,659 --> 00:45:25,880
that the board is,

972
00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:30,650
when you say you're a board member,

973
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:33,769
they may feel, oh, this is the board.

974
00:45:33,769 --> 00:45:36,309
I wish the fire marshal had called the select board

975
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:40,210
and asked if this was a necessary thing.

976
00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:43,170
But what I would like the boards to think about is,

977
00:45:43,170 --> 00:45:44,670
and I agree with telling this,

978
00:45:44,670 --> 00:45:46,590
don't call the state.

979
00:45:46,590 --> 00:45:49,289
I'm not a big fan of that, but that's an opinion.

980
00:45:49,289 --> 00:45:53,070
But I would like to, if I saw someone in town doing something,

981
00:45:53,070 --> 00:45:54,889
especially someone new in town,

982
00:45:54,889 --> 00:45:57,769
I would go and say, hey, did you get a permit?

983
00:45:57,769 --> 00:46:02,309
And can I help you get the right information to find out?

984
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:05,349
So call Deb Burchard for your town permits.

985
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:09,150
Go to Laurie to see if there's any state permits that are needed.

986
00:46:09,150 --> 00:46:11,329
That's how I would approach any town member

987
00:46:11,329 --> 00:46:12,929
as another town member.

988
00:46:12,929 --> 00:46:14,289
I wouldn't do it as a,

989
00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:15,949
as a select board,

990
00:46:15,949 --> 00:46:18,230
but I would just say, hey, if you need any help,

991
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:20,570
here's the people that know what they're talking about.

992
00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:22,030
If you need any help on a road,

993
00:46:22,030 --> 00:46:23,250
here's the people that,

994
00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:26,289
and you've been living in the town for a long, long time

995
00:46:26,289 --> 00:46:29,690
compared to me, but you know,

996
00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:34,690
if you need someone that has the intelligence of the roads

997
00:46:34,829 --> 00:46:36,010
and the information,

998
00:46:36,010 --> 00:46:38,610
here's someone that you would call and so on.

999
00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:41,550
And I think that's a better approach than going,

1000
00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:42,389
they don't have a permit.

1001
00:46:42,389 --> 00:46:43,570
I'm calling them, I'm telling them.

1002
00:46:43,570 --> 00:46:44,610
That's what it sounds like.

1003
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:45,449
I'm calling them people in.

1004
00:46:45,449 --> 00:46:46,570
And that's how I feel.

1005
00:46:46,570 --> 00:46:47,409
All right, guys.

1006
00:46:47,409 --> 00:46:50,710
We should also have faith in people like Deb

1007
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:52,210
that are doing the job, right?

1008
00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:53,650
We appointed her to the job.

1009
00:46:53,650 --> 00:46:54,789
And again, before we,

1010
00:46:54,789 --> 00:46:56,010
I think we're going to have to resolve that.

1011
00:46:56,010 --> 00:46:58,610
Yeah, before we listen to the,

1012
00:46:58,610 --> 00:47:00,610
so the board,

1013
00:47:00,610 --> 00:47:02,170
and I agree, Kurt,

1014
00:47:02,170 --> 00:47:04,929
you know, as board members here,

1015
00:47:04,929 --> 00:47:06,730
I was approached also and said,

1016
00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:09,409
why do you believe what Deb said?

1017
00:47:09,409 --> 00:47:11,349
I won't say who it was or anything,

1018
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:12,750
but that's no different than me saying,

1019
00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:14,449
why do I, when Dave says, I got to put it in,

1020
00:47:14,449 --> 00:47:15,570
I put a culvert in it.

1021
00:47:15,570 --> 00:47:17,329
I don't question that.

1022
00:47:17,329 --> 00:47:19,869
When the fire department says we need a truck,

1023
00:47:19,869 --> 00:47:22,050
I don't question that and say, okay.

1024
00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:26,289
The professionals said the truck's 30 something years old.

1025
00:47:26,289 --> 00:47:27,710
We really need a truck.

1026
00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:29,130
Then we bring it to the people.

1027
00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:31,789
When Laurie says that there's something going on

1028
00:47:31,789 --> 00:47:35,869
with the new law or the new computers or the new websites,

1029
00:47:35,869 --> 00:47:38,550
I believe her because we hire people.

1030
00:47:38,550 --> 00:47:40,449
We appoint the planning board

1031
00:47:40,449 --> 00:47:41,690
and the planning board comes to us

1032
00:47:41,690 --> 00:47:44,409
with all of due diligence they did

1033
00:47:44,409 --> 00:47:47,230
and you come up amongst all of us and say,

1034
00:47:47,230 --> 00:47:48,530
this is what we want to do.

1035
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:49,989
This is our bylaws.

1036
00:47:49,989 --> 00:47:53,590
We put faith in who's on these boards and so on.

1037
00:47:53,590 --> 00:47:56,590
I'm going to just see how long I can keep their hands up.

1038
00:47:56,590 --> 00:47:59,440
You think if you don't call on me,

1039
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,360
my hand will go down, but it will not.

1040
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,199
No, no, no.

1041
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:03,360
It will go down, but it will stay on the floor.

1042
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,780
I see you, I see you, I see you.

1043
00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:08,059
I don't know if Mark starts that.

1044
00:48:08,059 --> 00:48:12,289
Yeah, yeah, but again, again,

1045
00:48:12,289 --> 00:48:13,849
I just think that it, and I agree,

1046
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:17,929
that if we all work together as a town,

1047
00:48:17,929 --> 00:48:19,909
and yes, you shouldn't get away with things.

1048
00:48:19,909 --> 00:48:21,349
You shouldn't do things wrong.

1049
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:24,030
I don't think there's ever any intent to say,

1050
00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:27,610
I'm just going to do this, you know, and not know.

1051
00:48:27,610 --> 00:48:29,570
I mean, especially if you're right on the main street,

1052
00:48:29,570 --> 00:48:32,789
you're from, you're new in town and you're about the church.

1053
00:48:32,789 --> 00:48:34,570
Oh yeah, I'm going to just sneak around.

1054
00:48:34,570 --> 00:48:36,130
Yeah, I agree with you.

1055
00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:37,570
Anyways, go ahead, Pam.

1056
00:48:37,570 --> 00:48:40,230
Okay, I'm going to call a spade a spade.

1057
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:43,710
I've been living here for 38 years, okay?

1058
00:48:43,849 --> 00:48:46,900
Let's be real.

1059
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:49,920
Lots and lots and lots and lots of people

1060
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,280
do all kinds of stuff in this town.

1061
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,800
Not the right way, all the time, and we all know it.

1062
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,539
And it's not that I am advocating for people

1063
00:49:01,539 --> 00:49:04,659
doing the wrong thing, I guess, you know,

1064
00:49:04,659 --> 00:49:10,429
but the reality is this situation

1065
00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:14,829
where there is this ganging up on her,

1066
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:18,170
since day one, and it's not that she's told me that.

1067
00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:19,829
It's not that anyone's told me that.

1068
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:23,349
It's so obvious that you can't miss it.

1069
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:27,769
I'm very, I'm really upset.

1070
00:49:27,769 --> 00:49:32,329
We almost could have had something on that lot.

1071
00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:35,250
I'm going to tell you that nobody in this town,

1072
00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:37,969
except for the person who did it, won it.

1073
00:49:37,969 --> 00:49:42,809
Instead, we have this person who's trying to create

1074
00:49:42,809 --> 00:49:44,550
a community asset for us,

1075
00:49:44,550 --> 00:49:47,489
but there's a few people in the town

1076
00:49:47,489 --> 00:49:49,449
that have decided that they don't like her.

1077
00:49:49,449 --> 00:49:52,150
For whatever reason, they are harassing her.

1078
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:55,389
She has not told me that, no one's told me that,

1079
00:49:55,389 --> 00:49:59,429
but it's crystal clear, and I'm going on the record,

1080
00:49:59,429 --> 00:50:02,369
it's uncalled for, it's unacceptable,

1081
00:50:02,369 --> 00:50:03,690
and it needs to stop.

1082
00:50:03,690 --> 00:50:04,530
Yep, agreed.

1083
00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:06,989
So, okay, so I'm going to end the discussion

1084
00:50:06,989 --> 00:50:10,309
about all that now, and move on,

1085
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:13,449
unless the board has anything else to say.

1086
00:50:13,449 --> 00:50:14,550
Can I just one more time?

1087
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:16,349
I want to thank you, that's, I'm sorry.

1088
00:50:16,349 --> 00:50:17,849
Yeah, okay, you were the last speaker,

1089
00:50:17,849 --> 00:50:19,889
but I don't want to just keep going back and forth, right?

1090
00:50:19,889 --> 00:50:21,630
I just want to make it clear,

1091
00:50:21,630 --> 00:50:23,929
and not because I want to continue the issue,

1092
00:50:23,929 --> 00:50:26,550
but the point of my conversation

1093
00:50:26,550 --> 00:50:28,949
with the fire marshal today is he did say,

1094
00:50:28,949 --> 00:50:31,530
because there's a list of questions you go through,

1095
00:50:31,530 --> 00:50:33,969
I ran through all those questions with him.

1096
00:50:33,969 --> 00:50:36,630
He said, yeah, you sound great to me.

1097
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:39,650
I have to come down, though, and do eyes on,

1098
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:41,929
because it's the life board asked me to.

1099
00:50:41,929 --> 00:50:42,769
Okay.

1100
00:50:42,769 --> 00:50:44,010
That is what he told me today.

1101
00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:45,250
So that's fine.

1102
00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:46,449
I'm happy to meet with him.

1103
00:50:46,449 --> 00:50:50,489
He's showing up, sounds like a nice guy, but it wasn't.

1104
00:50:50,489 --> 00:50:51,949
Well, I didn't vote on it.

1105
00:50:51,949 --> 00:50:56,110
Yeah, except for the select board did not ask me to come down.

1106
00:50:56,110 --> 00:50:56,690
Okay.

1107
00:50:56,690 --> 00:50:59,469
Okay, can I respond one more time?

1108
00:50:59,469 --> 00:51:00,369
Yes.

1109
00:51:00,369 --> 00:51:01,349
No, I've been sitting here a little.

1110
00:51:01,349 --> 00:51:02,150
No, you're on the board.

1111
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:03,510
First of all, I don't know.

1112
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:05,309
But I don't want to go back and forth, guys.

1113
00:51:05,309 --> 00:51:06,130
No.

1114
00:51:06,130 --> 00:51:06,389
Yeah.

1115
00:51:06,389 --> 00:51:08,309
Okay.

1116
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:10,369
I think I was open here at the meeting.

1117
00:51:10,369 --> 00:51:12,429
I didn't even, I just sat here quietly,

1118
00:51:12,429 --> 00:51:14,809
and I explained to you openly that it was me

1119
00:51:14,809 --> 00:51:16,929
who took the responsibility for calling.

1120
00:51:16,929 --> 00:51:19,480
So please note that.

1121
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,239
What my thing was, I didn't call up and say I was on behalf

1122
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,280
of the select board.

1123
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,440
I mentioned that I am a select board man,

1124
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,980
so he wouldn't know I'm just somebody in town calling up,

1125
00:51:30,980 --> 00:51:33,360
trying to take a shot.

1126
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,320
I was concerned as to whether

1127
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,119
or not these things had been addressed.

1128
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,039
And if he comes down from what you said,

1129
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:43,760
everything's going to be addressed, it's going to be fine.

1130
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,860
But I'm just doing, I do have, there's

1131
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:50,269
other people that are not in this room that have concerns,

1132
00:51:50,269 --> 00:51:51,869
and I answer to them.

1133
00:51:51,869 --> 00:51:54,170
Is that something funny, Tim?

1134
00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:55,150
Okay.

1135
00:51:55,150 --> 00:51:55,989
Okay.

1136
00:51:55,989 --> 00:51:56,829
The end of it.

1137
00:51:56,829 --> 00:51:57,670
No.

1138
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:58,510
Come on.

1139
00:51:58,510 --> 00:51:59,349
No, perfect.

1140
00:51:59,349 --> 00:52:00,190
And the end of that.

1141
00:52:00,190 --> 00:52:02,349
You just said he answered, he answers for them.

1142
00:52:02,349 --> 00:52:06,050
So basically, the state is now coming down here

1143
00:52:06,050 --> 00:52:09,309
because they think the select board has requested

1144
00:52:09,309 --> 00:52:10,150
that they come down here.

1145
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:11,070
Well, we'll find that out.

1146
00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:12,469
But that's enough on that subject.

1147
00:52:12,469 --> 00:52:13,530
Let's move on now.

1148
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:15,789
Okay, we've spent almost an hour on this.

1149
00:52:15,989 --> 00:52:16,829
Okay.

1150
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:17,650
Okay.

1151
00:52:17,650 --> 00:52:21,969
Reading and approval of the records and orders.

1152
00:52:21,969 --> 00:52:22,949
Motion to approve.

1153
00:52:22,949 --> 00:52:28,420
Okay, I do have a, not a change,

1154
00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:30,219
something in the minutes from last week

1155
00:52:30,219 --> 00:52:34,139
I would like to have more specifically written out.

1156
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,630
It was a conversation between me and Deb.

1157
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:40,989
And I asked what's going on.

1158
00:52:40,989 --> 00:52:45,119
It's about 48 minutes into the Jed's video.

1159
00:52:48,489 --> 00:52:53,769
And I asked what's going on with the, what is it?

1160
00:52:53,769 --> 00:52:55,869
It was Kay's Creamery.

1161
00:52:55,869 --> 00:52:58,889
And Deb said, I'm not sure they have it state for,

1162
00:52:58,889 --> 00:53:01,469
anyway, I would like that to be put in

1163
00:53:01,469 --> 00:53:03,030
as it's actually stated.

1164
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:07,340
It's just kind of like a summary of what's in it.

1165
00:53:07,340 --> 00:53:09,800
Do you know how it was actually stated for me to put in?

1166
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,800
Or do you want me to?

1167
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,280
Well, I can give it to you here,

1168
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,960
but you may want to look anyway.

1169
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Okay.

1170
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,639
But I do have it here.

1171
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:17,030
I can give it to you.

1172
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:18,519
Okay.

1173
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:19,699
All right.

1174
00:53:19,699 --> 00:53:21,239
Motion to approve.

1175
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,079
Minutes.

1176
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:23,360
Motion to approve.

1177
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,199
Second.

1178
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:25,320
With the amendment.

1179
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,840
All in favor?

1180
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,079
All right.

1181
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:29,920
Dave's not here.

1182
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,760
Road conditions.

1183
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,170
He talked to you at all?

1184
00:53:33,170 --> 00:53:34,309
Okay.

1185
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:36,289
Did a good job on Collins Road today.

1186
00:53:36,289 --> 00:53:37,130
Yeah, he did.

1187
00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:39,949
I took a ride around some of the dirt roads

1188
00:53:39,949 --> 00:53:42,050
and they look pretty good.

1189
00:53:42,050 --> 00:53:44,190
A little bumpy here and there as usual,

1190
00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:47,210
but I've been doing this for 11 years

1191
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:49,250
and it's been the same every year.

1192
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:51,230
I'll tell you what, your road's better now

1193
00:53:51,230 --> 00:53:52,690
than it was 30 years ago.

1194
00:53:52,690 --> 00:53:53,690
That's for damn sure.

1195
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:55,380
Oh, yeah.

1196
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:56,300
No, the road's fine.

1197
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:59,980
Yeah, it's beautiful.

1198
00:53:59,980 --> 00:54:01,219
Recycling?

1199
00:54:01,219 --> 00:54:02,019
Nothing.

1200
00:54:02,019 --> 00:54:02,860
Nothing, nothing, nothing.

1201
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:03,719
That's nice.

1202
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,320
Discussion.

1203
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,050
Review election results.

1204
00:54:09,050 --> 00:54:13,010
So, school vote passed.

1205
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:17,280
Dr. Sharn has accepted the three-year term as solicitor.

1206
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,900
She received 100 votes.

1207
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:23,119
Sally Boll, we do not know if she'll accept this two-year

1208
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:23,619
term.

1209
00:54:23,619 --> 00:54:24,739
It's a three-year position.

1210
00:54:24,739 --> 00:54:27,539
There were not enough votes running right in on the third year.

1211
00:54:27,539 --> 00:54:29,039
So, I got a question.

1212
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:34,590
If someone came up tomorrow and wanted to do it,

1213
00:54:34,590 --> 00:54:37,250
just like any other elected position,

1214
00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:39,239
we can appoint them, right?

1215
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,739
Now, does that go back to the appointed

1216
00:54:41,739 --> 00:54:43,539
or is it now in an elected position

1217
00:54:43,539 --> 00:54:46,320
that we appoint an elected position?

1218
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,699
It's an elected position that you would appoint only to finish.

1219
00:54:49,699 --> 00:54:52,500
So, they can get the education and all that.

1220
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:53,739
Okay, that's my question.

1221
00:54:53,739 --> 00:54:56,239
Just a question of curiosity, I guess.

1222
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,119
Is there a minimum amount of votes that you need on a write-in to seven?

1223
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:03,039
You need 1% of her voter checklist, which would be eight votes.

1224
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:04,449
Eight.

1225
00:55:04,449 --> 00:55:05,489
She got eight.

1226
00:55:05,489 --> 00:55:09,829
So, there were a lot of write-ins that received one, two, three, four.

1227
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:11,650
You need to have at least eight.

1228
00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:12,409
Did you raise your hand?

1229
00:55:12,409 --> 00:55:13,949
You want to be a listener?

1230
00:55:13,949 --> 00:55:16,230
I think I- That's not what I was doing.

1231
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:20,369
It was a different motion I was making, and I was not raising my hand.

1232
00:55:20,369 --> 00:55:23,730
Well, I know, but I just thought you- That was raising the noose.

1233
00:55:23,730 --> 00:55:25,760
Yeah, okay.

1234
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,579
All right.

1235
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,500
Review Employee Policy Handbook.

1236
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:34,539
Table it.

1237
00:55:34,539 --> 00:55:38,539
We have some other members on that.

1238
00:55:38,539 --> 00:55:39,900
Thank you, John and Nancy.

1239
00:55:42,469 --> 00:55:49,840
Correspondence, you have signed grant.

1240
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,579
So, I have a letter of intent to participate

1241
00:55:52,579 --> 00:55:57,619
in next year's municipal roads grant made program.

1242
00:55:57,619 --> 00:55:59,219
Jim Henderson came down

1243
00:55:59,219 --> 00:56:04,260
met with dave and drove around looked at the roads i think what they'd like to do is some

1244
00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:12,739
work on sportsmen culverts and ditching and whatnot okay so i think that's the plan can we

1245
00:56:12,739 --> 00:56:20,050
sign this or do we wait for do we have time to wait or no you really need to sign we can sign

1246
00:56:20,050 --> 00:56:33,039
it okay so motion to sign it sorry just me just you the power go to your head

1247
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:35,860
get all the power

1248
00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:40,980
anybody want to buy the pen

1249
00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:49,070
names on that document yeah and then the other thing um if you guys you

1250
00:56:49,070 --> 00:56:55,650
reviewed the code of ethics investigation enforcement ordinance but the final wasn't

1251
00:56:55,650 --> 00:57:01,070
ready for you to sign so if you want to do a motion to adopt it in its final form

1252
00:57:01,070 --> 00:57:03,969
and you can all sign on you sent this to us

1253
00:57:03,969 --> 00:57:05,170
an email

1254
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:11,190
mike i'm sorry i don't want to interrupt that but is it is there a difference now that they're

1255
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:17,269
no longer an ethics commission in the state oh well we can bring that up now this is our town

1256
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:24,309
so did you you hear about that i didn't yeah okay so if you go on a website they

1257
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:30,070
say you're on your own they don't have any personnel personnel so they said they

1258
00:57:30,070 --> 00:57:35,269
they've been running a one full-time guy and a part-time guy for three years

1259
00:57:35,269 --> 00:57:35,510
and

1260
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:39,849
now they don't have personnel so the it shut down until further notice

1261
00:57:39,849 --> 00:57:44,389
well so we're pretty much on our own back you know what we want we're just gonna have to go back to

1262
00:57:44,389 --> 00:57:48,469
what we did before we have our own code of ethics and we do it ourselves yeah so i mean

1263
00:57:48,469 --> 00:57:50,650
CAN THE COMPLETE UNDERSTAND THE MATTER OF THE MATTER YOU CAN'T HAVE A COMP üst

1264
00:57:50,650 --> 00:57:56,230
we might because now you know that's a good question we might have to because it says go into

1265
00:57:56,230 --> 00:58:00,650
and call the state correct because you have a couple of weeks ago signed your conflict of interest

1266
00:58:00,650 --> 00:58:00,750
later

1267
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:01,750
be right conflict of interest

1268
00:58:01,750 --> 00:58:02,230
a little bit more conflict of interest

1269
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:02,789
of interest

1270
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:06,190
This is why the state drives me.

1271
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,079
I just wanted to throw it out there.

1272
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:11,559
No, I appreciate it. Thank you.

1273
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:18,739
Yeah, let's postpone it just so we can, we'll have to see if we can go through it.

1274
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:24,280
Most of it is based on sending things, referring them to the state.

1275
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,260
To the state, yeah.

1276
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,659
It's kind of a dead issue.

1277
00:58:26,659 --> 00:58:35,719
And if we, maybe we can just say in lieu of the state not having anything, we go to our next, you know, come up with our next plan.

1278
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:36,900
It still needs to be handled.

1279
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,000
Right, right. That's what I'm saying.

1280
00:58:39,019 --> 00:58:41,880
If that complaint comes in to the select board, whoever receives it.

1281
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,179
Which I always wanted to.

1282
00:58:43,260 --> 00:58:44,860
Somebody's got to answer for it.

1283
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:48,139
And I think it addresses some of people's concerns tonight.

1284
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:48,539
Yeah.

1285
00:58:49,219 --> 00:58:53,039
As to who takes responsibility and what their responsibilities are.

1286
00:58:53,039 --> 00:58:56,579
And at least most of what's outlined in that.

1287
00:58:56,659 --> 00:59:01,320
There's pretty good guidelines for you to bring up at the all-boards meeting as well.

1288
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:01,659
Right.

1289
00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:06,869
So do you want to wait or do you want to amend it?

1290
00:59:07,409 --> 00:59:07,630
Yeah.

1291
00:59:07,969 --> 00:59:08,489
Next meeting?

1292
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:09,989
Because we do have an old one.

1293
00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:12,349
So we can still go by the old one.

1294
00:59:12,949 --> 00:59:15,809
So much of that is based on going through the state.

1295
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:17,230
Really that's more procedural.

1296
00:59:17,230 --> 00:59:18,130
So we'll wait on that.

1297
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:19,190
Okay.

1298
00:59:21,219 --> 00:59:21,739
Is that it?

1299
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:22,800
Correspondents?

1300
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:23,699
That's it.

1301
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:24,239
That's it?

1302
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:24,300
That's it.

1303
00:59:25,019 --> 00:59:25,719
Old business.

1304
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:28,360
New business.

1305
00:59:28,539 --> 00:59:30,500
Old business back there.

1306
00:59:31,019 --> 00:59:31,340
Oh.

1307
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:32,000
Hi.

1308
00:59:32,260 --> 00:59:32,519
Hi.

1309
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:36,780
I want to address old business because it was old business at the last meeting.

1310
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,079
And I was surprised it was old business because I didn't know it was old business.

1311
00:59:41,059 --> 00:59:42,260
I'm Natalie O'Neill.

1312
00:59:43,219 --> 00:59:45,199
I've been a resident here for four years.

1313
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,920
And I've just started going over to Lovely Farm here down the main road.

1314
00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:53,199
And I've been there for the last two weeks on a Thursday where I've seen someone approach

1315
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:58,239
someone and the capacity of an official from the town during a time that wasn't there.

1316
00:59:58,239 --> 00:59:58,340
And I've been there for a while.

1317
00:59:58,340 --> 00:59:58,360
And I've been there for a while.

1318
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:58,400
And I've been there for a while.

1319
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:58,440
And I've been there for a while.

1320
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:58,500
And I've been there for a while.

1321
00:59:58,500 --> 00:59:58,539
And I've been there for a while.

1322
00:59:58,539 --> 00:59:58,579
And I've been there for a while.

1323
00:59:58,579 --> 00:59:58,619
And I've been there for a while.

1324
00:59:58,619 --> 00:59:58,659
And I've been there for a while.

1325
00:59:58,659 --> 00:59:58,679
And I've been there for a while.

1326
00:59:58,679 --> 00:59:58,719
And I've been there for a while.

1327
00:59:58,719 --> 00:59:58,739
And I've been there for a while.

1328
00:59:58,739 --> 00:59:58,800
And I've been there for a while.

1329
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:58,860
And I've been there for a while.

1330
00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:58,920
And I've been there for a while.

1331
00:59:58,920 --> 00:59:58,960
And I've been there for a while.

1332
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:58,980
And I've been there for a while.

1333
00:59:58,980 --> 00:59:59,039
And I've been there for a while.

1334
00:59:59,039 --> 00:59:59,059
And I've been there for a while.

1335
00:59:59,059 --> 00:59:59,119
And I've been there for a while.

1336
00:59:59,119 --> 00:59:59,179
And I've been there for a while.

1337
00:59:59,179 --> 00:59:59,239
And I've been there for a while.

1338
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:05,800
asked for invited um and taking their time my personal time as a community member and

1339
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,280
feeling other people in the community members to feel unwelcome in that space and i don't think

1340
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,280
that's what we want here in our town i hope that's not what we want here in our town that's not what

1341
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,599
i would like to see in our town and i was very upset to come to this meeting at the first of

1342
01:00:18,599 --> 01:00:22,840
the month and hear that this was old business in the way that it was spoken about in this room

1343
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,199
last time so i'm sorry that was even spoken about within the 15 minutes that i wasn't here in the

1344
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:32,760
beginning um i'm also sad that there aren't younger people here in the room that have

1345
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,679
um a buy in this community that would love to see something flourish there

1346
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:41,480
um as well as young people my age that are attending as well there in the classes and others

1347
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,039
that are in this room that are attending classes there so i would ask us as a resident um if

1348
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:51,079
there's select board meeting or meeting town just stuff it can be arranged in this time and space

1349
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:56,920
and not taken up on personal time of theirs or mine as a community sure so i'm coming to the

1350
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,119
space to take up

1351
01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:03,239
time and space of yours and your time and space um so i don't appreciate being ignored

1352
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:07,480
in the time that it could have been addressed before i apologize for being linked but again

1353
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:13,239
this was old business so sure bringing into your attention yeah so i don't think i ignored you i'm

1354
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:20,679
sorry if i did i'll be like him and hold my hand up as long as i can well i didn't i'm sorry i did

1355
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:26,920
not i really i didn't i didn't even see your hand but um because i'm a big uh first amendment allow

1356
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:34,199
uh one thing i would like to say to new residents and old residents uh and i can tell you a story we

1357
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:42,440
had another selectboard member a while back that used our select board as a platform and really

1358
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:49,000
spoke a long time even longer than i speak and there was a resident that said they didn't have

1359
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:57,480
the chance and i invited that resident to get on the agenda you can get on the agenda and then you

1360
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:03,320
have longer periods of time to talk so if you get on the agenda you come to any one of the select

1361
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,820
board members and say can i would you put me on the agenda and if one of us sponsors that and

1362
01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:15,139
says yes i want it on we can ask the chair and she'll put it on and then you can have more time

1363
01:02:15,139 --> 01:02:22,389
to talk because it if everybody looks at the state law on open meeting law we don't have to

1364
01:02:22,389 --> 01:02:27,630
let everyone speak we don't have to we do but this is the open meeting law says we just have

1365
01:02:27,630 --> 01:02:34,130
to have this in public we you have to give a certain amount of time to speak but if it it

1366
01:02:34,130 --> 01:02:39,949
didn't like i was telling the other person here you can't have 20 subjects and talk five minutes

1367
01:02:39,949 --> 01:02:46,630
on every subject that's not how it works or we could be here all night okay but i i apologize

1368
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:53,269
i didn't see your hand but i don't i don't ignore anyone okay yeah yeah i definitely uh

1369
01:02:53,269 --> 01:02:58,079
try not to ignore anyone okay thank you that it

1370
01:02:59,389 --> 01:03:04,150
that's it i don't have anything okay motion to enter an executive session

1371
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:08,570
for the personnel and you can fill in the numbers for them later