1 00:00:00,660 --> 00:00:16,929 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 2 00:00:16,929 --> 00:00:56,250 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:56,270 --> 00:01:45,159 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:01:45,180 --> 00:02:36,509 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 5 00:02:36,530 --> 00:03:13,800 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:03:13,819 --> 00:03:50,460 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 7 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:51,479 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 8 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:52,930 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 9 00:03:52,930 --> 00:03:53,930 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 10 00:03:53,930 --> 00:03:54,930 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 11 00:03:54,930 --> 00:03:55,930 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 12 00:03:55,930 --> 00:04:11,460 I think you'll have to study these. 13 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:13,900 Oh, so you've written it up different ways, Lord, et cetera, right? 14 00:04:14,419 --> 00:04:14,680 Mm-hmm. 15 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:15,020 Right. 16 00:04:16,649 --> 00:04:20,889 And it does say something in there about he's removing all the old stuff. 17 00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:21,350 Yeah. 18 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:23,399 What was the grant for again? 19 00:04:24,259 --> 00:04:24,699 33. 20 00:04:25,060 --> 00:04:25,800 Can you tell? 21 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,459 36,000. 22 00:04:26,899 --> 00:04:28,019 I can't. 23 00:04:28,019 --> 00:04:29,699 What's the difference between the three of them? 24 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:33,939 I mean, I probably, if I dig into the other one, I'll wake up. 25 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,040 I mean, I'm probably going to have questions for him. 26 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,180 I think we should have. 27 00:04:37,180 --> 00:04:38,300 I think so. 28 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:41,639 I mean, the money doesn't look bad. 29 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:45,139 It's just that we don't have anything to compare it to. 30 00:04:45,379 --> 00:04:50,180 We only have one of the best ones, really, because if we don't spend it, we're not just going to give it to you. 31 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:53,100 We've got one for an R value of 16.2. 32 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:55,779 We've got another one for an R value of 18.4. 33 00:04:58,079 --> 00:04:58,579 It's different. 34 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,139 What was that one? 35 00:05:01,699 --> 00:05:02,639 16 and this. 36 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:03,339 Different insulation. 37 00:05:03,339 --> 00:05:04,000 16 and 18. 38 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,819 Yeah, this is only 9.1. 39 00:05:05,879 --> 00:05:06,639 Thicker insulation. 40 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,600 It's a $1,000 difference. 41 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:09,079 It's a $1,000 difference. 42 00:05:09,259 --> 00:05:10,199 This isn't a three-digit difference. 43 00:05:10,319 --> 00:05:11,339 What are those numbers? 44 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:12,339 19 and 10? 45 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:13,660 They're in the 19s. 46 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:17,819 Yeah, 18.4, 18.4, and then 16.2 and 16.2. 47 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:19,100 This is 18.3. 48 00:05:19,339 --> 00:05:21,339 It's got an R value of 9.1. 49 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,360 There's a 19 on one of those. 50 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:26,149 Right back. 51 00:05:26,290 --> 00:05:26,970 Second page. 52 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:27,290 Sorry. 53 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:27,470 Sorry. 54 00:05:27,629 --> 00:05:27,949 Sorry. 55 00:05:27,949 --> 00:05:28,389 Sorry. 56 00:05:28,389 --> 00:05:28,490 Sorry. 57 00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:28,550 Sorry. 58 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:28,589 Sorry. 59 00:05:28,589 --> 00:05:28,949 Sorry. 60 00:05:28,949 --> 00:05:28,990 Sorry. 61 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:29,050 Sorry. 62 00:05:29,050 --> 00:05:29,089 Sorry. 63 00:05:29,089 --> 00:05:29,110 Sorry. 64 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:29,149 Sorry. 65 00:05:29,149 --> 00:05:29,189 Sorry. 66 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:29,209 Sorry. 67 00:05:29,209 --> 00:05:29,230 Sorry. 68 00:05:31,230 --> 00:05:35,970 They're not going to give us the money for the 19s even though we spent it. 69 00:05:36,350 --> 00:05:43,589 This is more like a little print of the door and everything. 70 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:47,660 This guy actually came to the manager and everything. 71 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,540 I think that we should give these to Dave. 72 00:05:51,819 --> 00:05:52,060 Yeah. 73 00:05:52,220 --> 00:05:54,860 Maybe not every piece of hardware. 74 00:05:54,860 --> 00:05:55,579 Oh, that's hard work. 75 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:56,480 That doesn't matter. 76 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:00,360 But it doesn't tell me. 77 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:00,439 It doesn't tell me. 78 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:00,500 It doesn't tell me. 79 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:02,279 It doesn't tell me all the money because I don't have anything. 80 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,879 The doors don't do it on each one. 81 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:05,379 So how many doors are there, David? 82 00:06:05,379 --> 00:06:05,879 Three. 83 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:08,680 And each one is one of those. 84 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,800 So there's one door, there's two doors. 85 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,199 There's two that are the same size. 86 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:14,459 Yeah. 87 00:06:14,459 --> 00:06:15,860 It says it's quantity two. 88 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:16,860 John, I'm sorry. 89 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:20,399 The first one says quantity two, then quantity three. 90 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:20,939 Oh, yeah. 91 00:06:20,939 --> 00:06:22,399 Two, one, two. 92 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:25,139 There's a total of five then? 93 00:06:25,939 --> 00:06:26,220 No. 94 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:26,720 No. 95 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,259 There's doors. 96 00:06:28,259 --> 00:06:28,639 Oh, no. 97 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,420 That's the door operator for like a lift. 98 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:31,759 Yeah. 99 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:37,480 The door is on that back door. 100 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,639 Three doors for $18,000. 101 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:43,720 Can you look them over, give us your recommendation, 102 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,800 and we can bring it up at next meeting? 103 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:46,920 Yeah. 104 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:55,759 And John, if you want to meet with Dave and look at them or look at them sometime when? 105 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:57,860 You want to wait two weeks or you want to? 106 00:06:57,860 --> 00:06:59,540 I'm just saying there's no difference. 107 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:02,019 What happens to the grand one if you only spend one? 108 00:07:02,019 --> 00:07:04,660 You get the best of the best of the family. 109 00:07:04,660 --> 00:07:05,660 Right. 110 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:12,500 But like John's asking if we had other, can we get the other door fixed with the rest 111 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:13,500 of the grand? 112 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:14,500 Oh, we got 33 or something, 19. 113 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:15,500 Yeah. 114 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:16,500 Yeah. 115 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:17,500 So that one side, how low was that? 116 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:18,500 Five, six hundred bucks. 117 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:19,500 Well, I'm saying can we do it, though, afterwards? 118 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:20,500 Yes. 119 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:21,500 If another bill comes in. 120 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:22,500 Can we march? 121 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:23,500 I don't know. 122 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:24,500 Yeah. 123 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:25,500 Can we do it? 124 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:26,500 We would have gone for all four doors. 125 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:27,500 That would be expensive. 126 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:28,500 High quality. 127 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:29,500 Yeah. 128 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:30,500 Yeah. 129 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:31,500 Yeah. 130 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:32,500 Yeah. 131 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:33,500 Yeah. 132 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:34,500 Yeah. 133 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:34,600 Yeah. 134 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:35,800 The istOurself would love to get that one fixed. 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,319 Oh, but the assessment came from the three garage doors and the man door. 136 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:37,319 Yeah. 137 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:41,439 So you could do the man door at a separate time. 138 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:42,519 You could do the man door. 139 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:43,519 All right. 140 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:46,160 I don't know what you could add on a fourth door Хunder the grand. 141 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,129 No, I'm not. 142 00:07:48,129 --> 00:07:49,790 I'm asking . 143 00:07:49,790 --> 00:07:52,189 The man door was not quoted. 144 00:07:52,189 --> 00:07:53,170 Right. 145 00:07:53,170 --> 00:07:56,889 We could throw that in for a quote or for the bent. 146 00:07:56,889 --> 00:07:58,209 We could get something else to do. 147 00:07:58,209 --> 00:07:59,209 Agreed. 148 00:07:59,209 --> 00:08:01,209 We can get something else to. 149 00:08:01,209 --> 00:08:02,209 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 150 00:08:02,209 --> 00:08:04,889 I'm just saying so we'd make sure we can get it paid for at the end. 151 00:08:04,889 --> 00:08:08,089 And I don't have a problem with it being the best of the best. 152 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,000 It's going to be covered. 153 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,199 I mean, why not get the best? 154 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,839 So if you need, if you want to do it before two weeks, before you come back, 155 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,180 as long as I would like to give Dave the option to say this is what I want, 156 00:08:23,279 --> 00:08:27,680 if he's happy, I don't see the board holding it up for two weeks. 157 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:34,779 My guess is some of it, he's got it in there to replace the existing motors 158 00:08:34,779 --> 00:08:39,539 because those are fairly, you know, if he did that with your house or garage, 159 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,240 he might want to. 160 00:08:40,299 --> 00:08:42,480 Oh, you mean with them doors without a motor on them? 161 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,039 No, but you may need the old ones because they're workable. 162 00:08:49,259 --> 00:08:52,460 So I'm saying if you look at this and you say I'm good with it, 163 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:58,539 I don't have a problem with making a motion to put the decision in Dave's hands. 164 00:08:58,539 --> 00:08:59,779 I think we should replace it. 165 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:00,559 I'm fine with that. 166 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,399 It's fine. 167 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:04,379 We're asking Dave to look at it. 168 00:09:04,379 --> 00:09:05,100 I agree with that. 169 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:05,500 He's going to come back. 170 00:09:05,580 --> 00:09:07,200 Two weeks from now, we're going to have to ask him. 171 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,639 I agree with that. 172 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:10,440 What about the motors? 173 00:09:10,899 --> 00:09:12,620 That's what I was just talking about. 174 00:09:12,740 --> 00:09:20,240 That might be some of the cost increase, but I would just replace them. 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:20,919 Oh, yeah. 176 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:27,639 If you need to add to this and it's within the grant, again, I don't have a problem with that. 177 00:09:29,659 --> 00:09:31,480 So I don't get it all done with that. 178 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,259 Try to get him to put the other door in, too. 179 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:34,980 He wants it. 180 00:09:35,179 --> 00:09:35,360 Yeah. 181 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,759 But you can get a price on that from, like you said, just go get a price. 182 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:41,139 Yeah, I can get somebody else to give me a credit. 183 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:41,419 Yeah. 184 00:09:41,620 --> 00:09:43,120 I'm kind of working with this guy down the road. 185 00:09:43,779 --> 00:09:44,139 Right. 186 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:45,360 All we need is a quote. 187 00:09:45,620 --> 00:09:45,820 Right. 188 00:09:45,940 --> 00:09:46,840 I won't go for that. 189 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:53,419 But if I can, I want to make the motion that Dave may make the decision as long as it falls 190 00:09:53,419 --> 00:09:54,159 within the grant. 191 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,320 I agree. 192 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:55,700 Yeah. 193 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,700 Now, do you want me to get, like, different prices from different people on the side door, 194 00:10:00,059 --> 00:10:02,059 or do you want me to call somebody and get a price? 195 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,440 It's reasonable. 196 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:04,799 Yeah. 197 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Oh, yeah. 198 00:10:06,659 --> 00:10:07,539 $100,000. 199 00:10:07,899 --> 00:10:09,940 We're only getting one bid on, like, that. 200 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:12,779 I can't imagine that there's going to be very much of it. 201 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:15,220 We're only getting one bid on the $30,000. 202 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,879 How are we going to get a bid on $700,000? 203 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,799 This is the problem with Stanford. 204 00:10:20,059 --> 00:10:21,639 I don't want to hold it up. 205 00:10:21,740 --> 00:10:22,259 That's my problem. 206 00:10:23,149 --> 00:10:23,450 Okay. 207 00:10:23,570 --> 00:10:27,830 You made a motion to let Dave take the option that. 208 00:10:28,049 --> 00:10:32,230 Could we buy the door and have him put it in and use the grant money to pay Dave? 209 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:34,350 For his hours putting it in? 210 00:10:34,350 --> 00:10:35,350 Or is that, like, not allowed? 211 00:10:35,429 --> 00:10:35,830 Oh, God. 212 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:37,250 Yeah, because he's got too much to do. 213 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:37,909 We have him here. 214 00:10:38,669 --> 00:10:40,629 He's got $12,000 to put it in. 215 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:41,970 He's got too much to do. 216 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:43,950 On your head again. 217 00:10:44,429 --> 00:10:47,909 Now, as long as you stay within the spirit of what the grant was for it, 218 00:10:48,350 --> 00:10:50,889 it's a boy, a well-insulated man door. 219 00:10:52,009 --> 00:10:52,370 Right. 220 00:10:52,549 --> 00:10:52,690 Right. 221 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,889 I definitely wanted to do this, but I didn't think it was the door's fault. 222 00:11:00,259 --> 00:11:00,600 The door. 223 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:01,360 Yeah. 224 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,460 So, we, Mike made a motion. 225 00:11:05,899 --> 00:11:06,659 We approved it. 226 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,620 All in favor? 227 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:08,539 Aye. 228 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:09,539 Okay. 229 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,080 Lori. 230 00:11:12,330 --> 00:11:12,649 All right. 231 00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:13,470 Hearing of visitors. 232 00:11:15,539 --> 00:11:16,159 Yes, Maureen. 233 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:22,320 Last call for Green Up Day is on Saturday. 234 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:27,019 If it's raining, it's just canceled. 235 00:11:27,870 --> 00:11:30,029 So, I hope it doesn't rain until 1130. 236 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:30,909 That would be great. 237 00:11:31,230 --> 00:11:33,110 We could get all the trash picked up beforehand. 238 00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:35,490 Or dress accordingly. 239 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:37,409 Or dress accordingly, yeah. 240 00:11:37,409 --> 00:11:39,570 I mean, last Sunday it rained. 241 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:41,009 It rained all day, but it was just a drizzle. 242 00:11:41,289 --> 00:11:41,950 I know. 243 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:42,549 I know. 244 00:11:43,110 --> 00:11:47,210 So, you know, I'm personally not going to cancel it unless it's boring. 245 00:11:47,549 --> 00:11:48,590 I'll be out there. 246 00:11:49,330 --> 00:11:51,330 But, yeah. 247 00:11:51,529 --> 00:11:54,570 And then also, May 10th, Resilience Fair. 248 00:11:57,179 --> 00:12:02,250 We'll be posting some things on Facebook about it very soon. 249 00:12:06,419 --> 00:12:10,080 If for some reason it gets canceled, and I mean, we have a lot of people, 250 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,919 they may want to do it next week or something like that. 251 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:15,240 They still bring it to the dump with their green bag. 252 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,440 They can take that, right? 253 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,639 Yeah. 254 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:19,639 Sure. 255 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:23,639 You and I should talk about how they would get their green bags. 256 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:29,639 I mean, if they show up, if they show up, get a green bag that is too rainy. 257 00:12:29,639 --> 00:12:30,639 Yeah. 258 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:31,639 Okay. 259 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:34,639 If it gets too rainy, but they want to go out next week and pick up trash. 260 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:35,639 Great. 261 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:36,639 Or any day during the week. 262 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:37,639 Okay. 263 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:38,639 We should still take the trash. 264 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:39,639 Or any day during the week. 265 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:40,639 Or any day. 266 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:41,639 Yeah. 267 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:42,639 Any day. 268 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:43,639 Green day. 269 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:44,639 It's every day. 270 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:45,639 Sorry. 271 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:49,639 I can still have an unopened bag of green bags here at the office. 272 00:12:49,639 --> 00:12:51,639 We've got bags galore, so okay. 273 00:12:51,639 --> 00:12:52,639 Great. 274 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,639 Maybe keep that here in case somebody wants to pick one up from the office. 275 00:12:56,639 --> 00:12:57,639 Great. 276 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,240 Anything else from visitors? 277 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,240 I'd like to say something. 278 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:10,309 The state of Vermont on my side of town has been cleaning ditches and reseeding and doing that type of work. 279 00:13:10,309 --> 00:13:12,759 So just keep an eye out. 280 00:13:12,759 --> 00:13:13,759 They're working their way this way. 281 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:15,759 I don't know how far they're going to go, but. 282 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:16,759 Are they trenching them? 283 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:17,759 They're just cleaning them right out. 284 00:13:17,759 --> 00:13:18,759 They look good. 285 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:19,759 Yeah. 286 00:13:19,759 --> 00:13:20,919 So. 287 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:21,919 And I know they picked up trash a couple weeks ago. 288 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:23,429 It's nice to see them. 289 00:13:23,429 --> 00:13:24,429 I know they did Room 9 before winter. 290 00:13:24,429 --> 00:13:25,429 So they're probably just working their way this way. 291 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:26,429 I have one question. 292 00:13:26,429 --> 00:13:27,429 Maybe some advances. 293 00:13:27,429 --> 00:13:28,429 I know the electric company has been coming in and staking for what's coming. 294 00:13:28,429 --> 00:13:29,429 New pole system or whatever they're putting in through Stanford. 295 00:13:29,429 --> 00:13:30,429 I don't know. 296 00:13:30,429 --> 00:13:31,429 I don't know. 297 00:13:31,429 --> 00:13:32,429 I don't know. 298 00:13:32,429 --> 00:13:33,429 I don't know. 299 00:13:33,429 --> 00:13:35,450 I don't know. 300 00:13:35,450 --> 00:13:36,450 I don't know. 301 00:13:36,450 --> 00:13:37,450 I don't know. 302 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:38,450 I don't know. 303 00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:39,450 I don't know. 304 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:40,450 I don't know. 305 00:13:40,450 --> 00:13:41,450 I don't know. 306 00:13:41,450 --> 00:13:42,450 I don't know. 307 00:13:42,450 --> 00:13:43,450 I don't know. 308 00:13:43,450 --> 00:13:45,509 And I don't know. 309 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:46,509 But, I don't know if they ready to take the. 310 00:13:46,509 --> 00:13:47,509 Only I know they've put in. 311 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:48,509 There's one. 312 00:13:48,509 --> 00:13:49,509 New pole system. 313 00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:50,509 Or whatever they're putting in HP. 314 00:13:50,509 --> 00:13:51,509 How does that work? 315 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:52,639 I noticed in my field that they put in a couple. 316 00:13:52,639 --> 00:13:55,639 You know, did in a couple. 317 00:13:55,639 --> 00:14:01,500 They're gonna unreasonable to cross over and come across the front part of can be. 318 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:11,279 So, I see two stakes down there and then, straight, closer to 운동 guys road, there's 319 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:15,360 two stakes and then there's one up into the field a little bit. 320 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,360 All right. 321 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Looks like you're going to add some poles. 322 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,899 So I'm thinking they're going to add a safety wire there and cross back over the road probably. 323 00:14:24,690 --> 00:14:24,990 Uh-oh. 324 00:14:25,169 --> 00:14:27,610 But what is the rules on that? 325 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:31,460 A certain amount of feet from the center of the road. 326 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Well, I was told there right away it's supposed to be up the white line there. 327 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,620 That's what the boss said. 328 00:14:37,220 --> 00:14:44,730 I'm just wondering what the electric company, do they have the right just to put a pole up in the middle of your park on your property? 329 00:14:44,789 --> 00:14:46,289 No, they have a piece of it. 330 00:14:46,809 --> 00:14:49,850 They're usually working either down the highway or the state. 331 00:14:49,850 --> 00:14:50,389 Or the state. 332 00:14:50,509 --> 00:14:51,970 And we don't have any easements. 333 00:14:52,129 --> 00:14:53,529 Did we get any easements from them? 334 00:14:53,809 --> 00:14:55,990 So they're probably all in the state right away. 335 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:59,889 Is it actually four poles or are they planning on blacktopping? 336 00:14:59,970 --> 00:15:03,850 Because a lot of times with their blacktopping, they stake where the color lines cross the road. 337 00:15:04,309 --> 00:15:07,389 So when the crews are blacktopping, they know where the lines are. 338 00:15:07,769 --> 00:15:15,269 I talked to the engineer, and they're revamping all the lines north from south all the way north. 339 00:15:15,850 --> 00:15:16,289 And so. 340 00:15:16,289 --> 00:15:22,730 So all these states you see, you'll see two states with white flags, and then you'll see one with an orange flag. 341 00:15:22,730 --> 00:15:25,929 The one with the orange flag is the, I think that's the guy on it. 342 00:15:25,929 --> 00:15:33,029 So, and you can kind of read it to see where they're, what he's doing now, so he can work on details and it's good. 343 00:15:33,029 --> 00:15:45,490 But yeah, I'm just wondering, do they in Vermont, I don't know this, in Vermont, do they just have an automatic easement onto your property? 344 00:15:45,490 --> 00:15:45,990 Because. 345 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:47,950 I wouldn't think so. 346 00:15:47,950 --> 00:15:50,509 I'm going to go down and pull that damn stake off. 347 00:15:50,509 --> 00:15:51,470 It's not automatic. 348 00:15:53,169 --> 00:15:54,610 I mean, there might be an easement to play. 349 00:15:54,769 --> 00:16:00,090 They put a stake on I-10 on Meshika Road, and the next day, the stake was gone. 350 00:16:00,429 --> 00:16:01,129 They put it in the wrong place. 351 00:16:01,129 --> 00:16:02,850 I think they changed it. 352 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:03,870 Because I don't care less. 353 00:16:04,070 --> 00:16:07,570 Because the state of Vermont, when they're here, yearly meetings. 354 00:16:08,049 --> 00:16:08,490 Oh, maybe. 355 00:16:09,529 --> 00:16:11,230 Where they put them, it didn't work. 356 00:16:11,389 --> 00:16:13,309 So they may have went back and changed them. 357 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:13,789 Oh, yeah. 358 00:16:14,409 --> 00:16:15,809 Well, we're going to have this one. 359 00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:16,409 I would. 360 00:16:16,450 --> 00:16:18,889 I wish I could get them to go up my driveway instead of where the mine was. 361 00:16:18,889 --> 00:16:22,309 We've had issues with the property before. 362 00:16:22,570 --> 00:16:23,269 With a transformer. 363 00:16:23,470 --> 00:16:23,669 No way. 364 00:16:24,789 --> 00:16:25,529 They put the power. 365 00:16:25,690 --> 00:16:26,970 Oh, I know that. 366 00:16:27,370 --> 00:16:30,149 They put it in the center of the road. 367 00:16:30,750 --> 00:16:34,889 Well, they're supposed to be replacing all the older ones, the smaller ones. 368 00:16:34,909 --> 00:16:38,309 You can see where there's already, some of them have been changed there. 369 00:16:38,529 --> 00:16:39,350 They put flags on them. 370 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:40,049 Some of them are new. 371 00:16:40,409 --> 00:16:41,809 New and nice. 372 00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:45,330 There's a bunch of dumps where they've changed. 373 00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:46,429 But they're crossing. 374 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:47,350 They're crossing the road. 375 00:16:47,629 --> 00:16:49,090 Well, by themselves. 376 00:16:49,750 --> 00:16:50,149 No. 377 00:16:50,350 --> 00:16:51,409 They're crossing the road. 378 00:16:52,090 --> 00:16:55,110 They used to go right through the woods. 379 00:16:55,809 --> 00:16:57,789 From Lincoln Road to the main road. 380 00:16:57,950 --> 00:16:57,990 Yeah. 381 00:16:57,990 --> 00:17:02,289 And then right across the street from Therians. 382 00:17:03,820 --> 00:17:04,200 They're up in the woods. 383 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,980 Jim Therians. 384 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:05,880 They're up in the woods. 385 00:17:06,099 --> 00:17:06,859 And then they cross. 386 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:10,059 They're crossing over to my spot. 387 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,019 Over to my land. 388 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,779 With this new system. 389 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:16,039 And then they're going through two poles. 390 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,940 And then they're crossing. 391 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:24,420 back over but and then they said my power goes up through the woods there's an easement that 392 00:17:24,420 --> 00:17:32,819 goes up through um the woods right to my old cross this is my boy's house then he cropped 393 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:39,140 then he go down to chicago and they cross again yeah yeah they follow the old roads yeah when i 394 00:17:39,140 --> 00:17:51,779 lose power yeah well they cross they cross the river in the air and there's a yeah i can reach 395 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:07,299 they haven't come to the board i remember they had they have to come here now that i'm talking 396 00:18:07,299 --> 00:18:09,059 about it right there they have to come 397 00:18:09,140 --> 00:18:13,140 to the media to look into like the easements and stuff that they have right they have people 398 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:18,500 that are hired to go out with a written easement and they've got to get you to sign 399 00:18:21,299 --> 00:18:23,859 the beginning of those replacement power poles 400 00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:31,730 where when dv fiber was coming through and they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to survey 401 00:18:31,730 --> 00:18:38,849 all of the polls in the 23 towns and anything that the electric company or the telephone company said 402 00:18:39,170 --> 00:18:46,519 was not safe they replaced right you don't recall there was a couple of guys walking around taking 403 00:18:46,519 --> 00:18:50,039 photos oh yeah yeah yeah when they're on town roads 404 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:01,079 all right so that's on the state highway so i purposely asked just to got to this here in town 405 00:19:01,079 --> 00:19:09,089 with the b-trend guy and i said what is and plus the recent controversy about the setbacks here 406 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:15,250 i mean i did go all the way up here and i pretty much went from one block to 12 feet from the 407 00:19:15,250 --> 00:19:21,329 white line here yeah 25 feet from the center line so i actually took a ruler from my in my 408 00:19:21,650 --> 00:19:27,519 different yard to that stake and it's 30 i don't know like 30 something 37 feet or something like 409 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:37,720 that i'm like this thing is gone i think it's like 10 feet on the property and off the easement so 410 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,119 i'm not allowed to go on there right away 411 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:41,619 sorry 412 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:48,960 yeah i wouldn't pull this back here uh check your moment the land records in there 413 00:19:51,619 --> 00:19:56,180 when they put 100 through there's like for each piece of property that 100 went through 414 00:19:56,180 --> 00:20:02,500 there's a breakdown where all that is there's actually like cement pillars off of the road 415 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:10,160 so many feet there is one cement filter right across the street all the infills in the books 416 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:20,900 in that pocket all right okay conditions oh oh sorry still are we still on hearing yeah i'm 417 00:20:20,900 --> 00:20:28,740 sorry i didn't see your hand dev i i would like to address all of these emails that all of us have 418 00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:39,410 gotten today um very inflammatory and consumed all of our time i don't know if everybody but has read 419 00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:41,960 them from dave's house 420 00:20:42,839 --> 00:20:50,640 but i'm not happy with the way it was presented i'd like to ask you guys in the future 421 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:57,839 i think anything from dave i mean we're talking four emails i don't know what he wants what he's 422 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,680 proposing half the information is not accurate i don't want it to be the gospel 423 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:11,440 i think everything should be filtered through you before it gets disseminated out to everybody 424 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,000 i mean he 425 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:20,470 i think he's using lori as a kind of like a middle person and just filtering her and 426 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:25,109 she's got enough to do during the day and as a citizen technically because he's not sending it 427 00:21:25,109 --> 00:21:31,349 from a board i don't believe i i haven't seen it just says dave i think that anything that he has 428 00:21:31,349 --> 00:21:38,230 with an issue he needs to address either deb or a board and then it can be sent out to the other 429 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:42,150 boards from the select board maybe or from the board yourself so it's not going to be separate 430 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:42,710 again 431 00:21:43,269 --> 00:21:48,430 an instruction from the slack board to Lori I just think that it gets it starts 432 00:21:48,430 --> 00:21:53,829 to get just a little too crazy and it's like I feel bad that she's wasting her 433 00:21:53,829 --> 00:21:57,930 time sending out all these emails and she's got enough to do in her day so 434 00:21:57,930 --> 00:22:02,410 they're not real accurate he made reference to me a couple of times that 435 00:22:02,410 --> 00:22:07,509 he's asked me to do things I've not spoken with mr. Saldo since last year 436 00:22:07,509 --> 00:22:16,759 last last town meeting would be usurped the microphone so I don't I don't want 437 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:23,539 bad information going out it's not fair it's very inflammatory and until the 438 00:22:23,539 --> 00:22:30,230 facts are known I don't think it should go out it is why I'm upset because it's 439 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:33,490 it's terrible 440 00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:44,210 it's just that I got it and it is it's inflamed 441 00:22:44,210 --> 00:23:00,180 I got a call from the paving company 442 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,619 there's gonna be 443 00:23:39,970 --> 00:23:49,339 while you're on this up to the rain we had a group of people here we used to go 444 00:23:49,339 --> 00:23:54,829 complaining about the sports club road culverts and stuff like that anything 445 00:23:54,829 --> 00:24:02,119 but none of that so I did get a price replacement call the color itself is 446 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:09,920 fifty five hundred dollars we only have four thousand on our budget there is a 447 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,640 great I could put in for a grant the grants do in December and won't be out 448 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,059 till this time next year 449 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:23,359 not gonna be done this summer unless you guys want to full rescind I guess 450 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,960 now there are the next thing I'm gonna bring up is that our grant and heed traffic 451 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,640 so that I can try and get my funeral segments so I went around with Jim 452 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:45,140 Henderson we last week we identified some problems on sports roads that are undersized so for 2025 we picked a section and then for 2026 there will be another 453 00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:52,599 section and then for 26 it'll be another section and then for 2025 it'll be another 454 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:57,160 section but i could do both sections to some of them waiting to see how much money i have 455 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:05,210 before i open the colors because it's open so 200 feet of color so i want to make sure that let me 456 00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:11,609 uh ask you i missed it you said we have four thousand dollars in fixed calls right all right 457 00:25:11,609 --> 00:25:20,750 i don't understand why the budget's so low on coverage um we've talked about this many times 458 00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:28,970 how many colors we have in town there's a lot of a lot of side like older roads the class four roads 459 00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:36,170 that are really bad i know that i know that it's not priority but if we don't fix them it's going 460 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:44,109 to be big problems and there's there's some that are destroyed sure you know this horseman road 461 00:25:44,109 --> 00:25:50,430 that's another issue but maybe uh we ought to start thinking about just like we do with other 462 00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:51,150 other 463 00:25:51,230 --> 00:26:10,440 i also talked to the state today and they told me and i can't remember the numbers but there was 464 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,119 quite a bit of culverts on the state road and he said every time they build a home 465 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,880 or something changes they don't replace they take them away so i was saying so 466 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,900 if you take a call say you had 20 culverts on this road now you're down to 10. the water's 467 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:33,660 got to go somewhere is that affecting our roads you know are we having issues i'd say lincoln road 468 00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:38,619 because they don't have a good culvert now or i don't know i'm just right i'm saying that he was 469 00:26:38,619 --> 00:26:45,150 telling me that they actually put callers away on the state road many of them he said that's 470 00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:51,309 one of the reasons why they're flooding not not so much for you know wetter lands and the fields 471 00:26:53,230 --> 00:27:02,109 yeah well all right they're right i won't say it's the men's fault but the money is the same 472 00:27:02,109 --> 00:27:08,109 way they got along we got this much for this we got there much for that the thing is come november 473 00:27:08,109 --> 00:27:12,589 or december remember this i just made a note i always remember 474 00:27:14,509 --> 00:27:22,039 we get into budget you get into the budget and the last minute to say how much less can we do 475 00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:28,039 and now it comes back and bites you i agree i agree i'm all for spending some more money and 476 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:33,000 maybe you know because protecting i think that preventative maintenance is better than when we 477 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,839 wait until it we have big problems you you could talk to you blew in the face to some people who 478 00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:43,240 are like we don't want to spend any money it's all about you spend money now you save money 479 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:49,799 you know the greatest example was when we brought the uh excavator we'll get a bunch of these 480 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,240 at whole town now because we spent some money 481 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:59,079 i have no problems it did cut the manpower though because when we hired contractors that was another 482 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:06,039 you know source of manpower too sure and we had we used to have well we had one point we had three 483 00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:14,319 guys we had hard times on our health we need to solve it unfortunately you gotta wait like mud 484 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:20,720 season wiped off my summer budget for the most part for gravel i mean you can see in here 22 000 485 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,279 that's one that's just one contract 486 00:28:23,519 --> 00:28:27,920 able to cover the stone and the other bill i think was 15. it pretty much does every year 487 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:34,079 yeah every year there's only forty thousand dollars for buildings and it's not but we two 488 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:38,000 guys can only do so much right that's the thing you put all the money you want in there if i don't 489 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,920 get time to do it all i understand we don't think that comes right back we're gonna get around we 490 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,039 gotta we gotta get i mean you're a big guy but we gotta get you into a wrist block and hold it down 491 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:50,720 and make it clear 492 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,400 it all goes back to 493 00:28:53,519 --> 00:29:02,750 talk about paving and it it needs to really be looked at for the long term it people are going 494 00:29:02,750 --> 00:29:08,430 to cost you money but you got crazy and then guess what the work that you did doesn't take 495 00:29:08,430 --> 00:29:15,230 long and it needs to be done again paving solves a lot of those issues you don't have to revisit it 496 00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:21,339 you know constantly and the quality of life on the road is better because you're not you know 497 00:29:21,339 --> 00:29:23,900 beating your car to death all spring and summer 498 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:28,559 is there a place for a two or three year 499 00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:36,809 position for a third person before you work out the paving you can do that if you want to 500 00:29:36,809 --> 00:29:42,569 want to do that to somebody hire them and you know part-time i have to get rid of them i mean 501 00:29:42,569 --> 00:29:50,269 the part-time i just you're not i'm looking i don't want to be a babysitter we can't hire somebody 502 00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:54,349 for 20 bucks an hour and expect that they're they're going to do something all they're going 503 00:29:54,349 --> 00:29:55,390 to do is slow us down 504 00:29:55,390 --> 00:29:57,230 i i think it's a big deal i think it's a big deal 505 00:29:57,390 --> 00:30:07,759 discussion but i think that uh it's not only a third guy but it's in the future i mean let's 506 00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:13,690 let's face it you may have seen this many times how long you have left yeah it's coming out of 507 00:30:13,690 --> 00:30:20,119 the corner time goes by like that you know you gotta start looking at hiring someone and if it 508 00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:25,000 takes either we hire a train or we have to hire someone how are we going to steal someone from 509 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,480 the state 510 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,680 to hire and try to get home when we get someone who wants to 511 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:39,839 care i don't see you getting somebody here to do anything for less than 30 bucks an hour 512 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:45,839 yeah but we have to start looking at the way they choose and that again it's a long discussion we 513 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:50,720 need to sit down and talk about it maybe some kind of you know a special budget meeting or 514 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:58,089 something we can look at because uh you just can't be the weeks of december no and you know dave we 515 00:30:58,569 --> 00:31:04,569 i'm all for payment i told you that before oh i mean not bad payment too money's the money you 516 00:31:04,569 --> 00:31:10,140 know i better choose it spending too much money in the town now that's you know let's spend money 517 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:14,680 and look everything that we've ever spent seems to come back and help us 518 00:31:16,089 --> 00:31:23,369 but nevertheless i mean i'm for doing both we have to look at filling your shoes in the future and 519 00:31:23,369 --> 00:31:29,769 that's not that long enough i'm looking at some of these roles that i just created well sure 520 00:31:30,650 --> 00:31:32,970 yeah we could go sorry to start a good job 521 00:31:37,769 --> 00:31:42,970 yeah you can't stop it and then it gets to the point where i needed three days and then every 522 00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:48,410 couple weeks you have to which is another issue you got like i don't want to pay for sheriff i 523 00:31:48,410 --> 00:31:55,359 didn't want to pay for his radar sign but that people don't want to pay for payment or roads 524 00:31:55,359 --> 00:32:00,720 we pay we don't want to pay for the sheriff to spend three hours a week that's all right yeah but 525 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,920 the priority is to pay for shore road right because you know you're going to get a quick 526 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:11,200 payback on it in three to four years it's going to pay for itself so and that's what i'm saying 527 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,599 is we we didn't we didn't spend 70 000 on a sheriff but we didn't take that money and put 528 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:25,279 it in the highway fund that's what i'm you know why why can't we take we saved i'm sure why can't 529 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:29,359 we take that money and put some of that in the highway fund and say this is going to pay that 530 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,289 in a year a year and a half ago that money would be better spent in paving right but it didn't get 531 00:32:37,289 --> 00:32:43,529 spent at all you know the days you know that day that i have to really go back and regrading 532 00:32:43,529 --> 00:32:48,569 something i could be out putting a call in you know the money that's that's the money you don't 533 00:32:48,569 --> 00:32:53,769 see right you know where i actually got something else done because i mean let's face it there's 534 00:32:53,769 --> 00:33:00,650 some places that are just low priority compared to others that i just never get to and it's not that 535 00:33:00,970 --> 00:33:07,049 we shouldn't i just there's only so many hours in a day right that would be our discussion well 536 00:33:07,049 --> 00:33:12,250 we did ask dave a while ago if you think of anybody and we put it in the minutes oh i don't 537 00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:18,410 need a third man but your the wage is you you got to start something while other people are already 538 00:33:18,410 --> 00:33:22,410 making it right and then we got to bump other people up you know and then you got to have the 539 00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:28,569 funding to keep them busy right so it's the whole entire budget it's not just hiring employees 540 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:41,710 and you know what we have over again by the time you're done you know 30 hours an hour is a good 541 00:33:41,710 --> 00:33:52,910 one um what else do you have dave you're grading you're talking about paving um last year for the 542 00:33:52,910 --> 00:33:58,430 safety the loss control follow-up for the garage you've got the emergency lights have they been 543 00:33:58,430 --> 00:34:04,000 installed no and the eyewash has that been installed i haven't put it up 544 00:34:05,230 --> 00:34:12,510 can you do both of those in your spare time yeah and maybe get one other go through the list and 545 00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:18,349 get one other thing for this year so we can show them that we're trying to comply with them have 546 00:34:18,349 --> 00:34:23,949 you looked at the garage lately like i mean after no no everything's a disaster you come in it's all 547 00:34:23,949 --> 00:34:30,989 full of sand and the whole stuff it's all on the floor like i need a maid 548 00:34:30,989 --> 00:34:32,989 a third person 549 00:34:32,989 --> 00:34:34,190 i need a third person 550 00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:35,630 i had to spend like three days 551 00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:38,989 i'm not going to be both you know an hour a day 552 00:34:38,989 --> 00:34:40,670 before you go home an hour a day 553 00:34:40,670 --> 00:34:44,409 that's crazy you know i don't want to say 554 00:34:44,409 --> 00:34:46,409 what else do you have on road conditions 555 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:51,610 okay recycling oh you want something yeah sorry 556 00:34:53,050 --> 00:34:53,849 i have a rose 557 00:34:56,650 --> 00:34:56,969 okay 558 00:35:01,369 --> 00:35:03,849 nothing on recycling the recycling center opened 559 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:05,849 wednesday yesterday right 560 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:09,769 for the summer hours i got the first punch oh okay 561 00:35:16,349 --> 00:35:22,510 discussion ethics commission update um i don't think there was any update on it 562 00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:27,070 it's just that we're going to review the code of ethics investigation and enforcement evidence 563 00:35:28,590 --> 00:35:35,840 yep so did everybody have a chance to read the blue and yellow that came through and 564 00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:40,619 are we finally good with this looks good motion sign 565 00:35:40,619 --> 00:35:41,099 it looks good motion signed 566 00:35:41,099 --> 00:35:53,480 so is that it all in favor all right okay so now lori will have to because it's 567 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,559 an ordinance it has to um 568 00:36:00,510 --> 00:36:09,960 yes got to go in the newspaper for so many days and 60 days probably whatever it is and then it will 569 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:24,489 be checked and approved that took a lot of work a lot of back and forth 570 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:33,960 a lot of learning review and re-sign road commissioner job description 571 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,480 i left that with the word clean garage 572 00:36:39,480 --> 00:37:04,889 how about if the cleanup day is canceled we get all the guys in there there you go 573 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:06,730 i'm just saying right now right now 574 00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:10,650 you know maybe if it's raining instead of 575 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:12,889 green update we should do a bus update 576 00:37:29,369 --> 00:37:35,530 can we skip down to sign the social service agreement policy just to sign it and then 577 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:40,880 we'll go back to an employee policy handbook that's going to be in discussion 578 00:37:43,369 --> 00:37:46,250 we did approve that last meeting 579 00:37:46,809 --> 00:37:56,909 we're not going to do a job description 580 00:37:56,909 --> 00:37:58,269 how come my name is way down 581 00:37:58,269 --> 00:38:02,190 is 582 00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:04,190 okay 583 00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:06,190 we'll see you later 584 00:38:06,190 --> 00:38:08,190 we're still in for that election 585 00:38:08,190 --> 00:38:10,190 we're going to go flip the outwash and the light bulb 586 00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:12,190 Molly's going to be the third person 587 00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:14,190 yeah 588 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:16,190 they can start sweeping for the first two weeks 589 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:18,190 right 590 00:38:18,190 --> 00:38:20,730 after they see the door 591 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:24,429 as long as the damn door doesn't fall on a person sweeping 592 00:38:24,429 --> 00:38:25,429 haha 593 00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:37,210 uh i don't know i talked to other crews and neighboring towns and i've been told hey man they're 594 00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:44,829 paying me i'll do whatever they want me to do so it's like you're in pages do they have more meds 595 00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:47,309 your guy has done over 45 on their time yeah 596 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:55,949 like i go up on the roof i shovel the snow i cut the grass i'm getting paid i'll do it 597 00:38:55,949 --> 00:38:59,789 just they do it do they have more men more employees like three guys 598 00:38:59,789 --> 00:39:20,869 before about the same size yeah minutes from the wonder why he was sure that I 599 00:39:20,869 --> 00:39:26,449 skipped it skip over it I'm saying approval of records and orders so 600 00:39:26,449 --> 00:39:34,440 everybody sign here and sign the book okay can I have a motion to move second 601 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:42,969 so all in favor all right thank you okay review the employee policy handbook 602 00:39:42,969 --> 00:39:54,639 Laurie sent it to us guys go through it no someone 603 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:15,760 that way I think it would agree with that should we worry and wait here with 604 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,219 Alice because she's an employee here and one of the selecting we can do to 605 00:40:20,219 --> 00:40:26,980 selecting and Lauren without having a meeting committee warning right it's 606 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:39,469 entirely up to you it just didn't work well I'll work on it with somebody 607 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:45,079 okay I guess where are you and I are at I'll help if I can't can you make sure 608 00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:53,739 after turkey season oh when does that end oh wait a minute do you turkey hunt all day or is it certain 609 00:40:53,739 --> 00:41:02,980 hours okay after one o'clock all right oh yeah but then you go out in the 610 00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:10,710 afternoon too right no no that's not he goes out fishing fishing oh well 611 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:11,250 problem 612 00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:13,750 we'll see if we can work around the turkey season 613 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:15,750 the orders that he made from the turkey season 614 00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:16,250 yup 615 00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:16,750 it's ready 616 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:17,250 yup 617 00:41:17,250 --> 00:41:19,199 no waste 618 00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,059 correspondence Laurie 619 00:41:22,059 --> 00:41:24,059 or anything else in the discussion 620 00:41:24,059 --> 00:41:30,800 okay 621 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,800 old business 622 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:40,980 I just have a question the planning board was working on the bylaws where is that at now 623 00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:43,980 we have set a meeting they gave us the bylaws 624 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:45,980 yeah so where are we at now 625 00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:47,980 we have set a meeting for June 12th at 6 p.m. 626 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,480 public hearing 627 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,480 June 12th 628 00:41:50,480 --> 00:42:01,559 and if it's approved then we're good and it's only the sign that's the only part they've changed 629 00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:03,559 so we might get a sign by August 630 00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:05,260 we don't know 631 00:42:05,260 --> 00:42:06,260 it's time for winter time 632 00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:12,260 you can put it in now I don't understand why you put it in now 633 00:42:12,260 --> 00:42:14,260 what size do we need now 634 00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:20,880 you just go under the current you go under the current law that we have 635 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,380 okay 636 00:42:21,380 --> 00:42:26,300 okay 637 00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:27,300 sorry 638 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,300 sorry I never mentioned that sign again 639 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:31,300 I'm just guessing 640 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:32,300 they also 641 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,300 one of your moves all over the sign 642 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,300 okay while you're asking about the rules 643 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:37,300 the whole thing 644 00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:38,300 yes 645 00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:40,300 the one that we took and put in under a way 646 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:41,300 and then 647 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:42,300 can we bring it back here 648 00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:43,300 the discussions are going 649 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:44,300 you want that on the building right 650 00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,300 yeah 651 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:46,300 we're going to mount it on the building but 652 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:47,300 let's put a flag on it 653 00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:51,300 we really need to put it here bring it back here next to the generator 654 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:52,300 yup 655 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:53,300 so that we can talk to a contractor 656 00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:54,300 sure 657 00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:55,300 about that 658 00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:56,300 yes 659 00:42:56,300 --> 00:43:01,300 I've got approval from the school board they've got no concern about putting it on the building 660 00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:05,969 but can that sign go up on the building it needs a permit 661 00:43:05,969 --> 00:43:06,969 I don't think so 662 00:43:06,969 --> 00:43:07,969 no 663 00:43:07,969 --> 00:43:08,969 no 664 00:43:08,969 --> 00:43:09,969 no 665 00:43:09,969 --> 00:43:10,969 not to go on the building 666 00:43:10,969 --> 00:43:11,969 not to go on the building 667 00:43:11,969 --> 00:43:12,969 not to go on the building 668 00:43:12,969 --> 00:43:13,969 put the sign on the building 669 00:43:13,969 --> 00:43:14,969 Jim am I right 670 00:43:14,969 --> 00:43:15,969 not to go on the building 671 00:43:15,969 --> 00:43:18,969 it shouldn't but somebody will complain 672 00:43:18,969 --> 00:43:19,969 I don't care 673 00:43:19,969 --> 00:43:21,969 that's all he needs 674 00:43:21,969 --> 00:43:22,969 no 675 00:43:22,969 --> 00:43:23,969 just 676 00:43:23,969 --> 00:43:25,969 I'll get this 677 00:43:25,969 --> 00:43:27,969 people in town just don't like change 678 00:43:27,969 --> 00:43:28,969 no 679 00:43:28,969 --> 00:43:30,969 move furniture around 680 00:43:30,969 --> 00:43:36,969 I mean look at it this way you could paint Stanford Vermont on the building 681 00:43:36,969 --> 00:43:37,969 right 682 00:43:37,969 --> 00:43:39,969 it would not require a permit 683 00:43:39,969 --> 00:43:44,969 in my opinion putting a sign on the building does not require a permit 684 00:43:44,969 --> 00:43:45,969 prove me wrong please 685 00:43:45,969 --> 00:43:46,969 no deal 686 00:43:46,969 --> 00:43:47,969 right 687 00:43:47,969 --> 00:43:49,969 so I'm not going to go try to 688 00:43:49,969 --> 00:43:50,969 but then again I'm not supposed to say anything without it being in right hand 689 00:43:50,969 --> 00:43:51,969 but then again I'm not supposed to say anything without that out it being in right hand 690 00:43:51,969 --> 00:43:52,969 so I'm not supposed to say anything without that out it being in right hand 691 00:43:52,969 --> 00:44:00,650 out it being in writing so give me the permit and I'll say not necessary 692 00:44:00,650 --> 00:44:09,590 no Jim when you just said that that's really a new thing for me if it bothers me that Deb can't say no I don't need it 693 00:44:09,590 --> 00:44:14,269 we made a motion I can't do it anymore I can't talk to anybody 694 00:44:14,269 --> 00:44:22,269 I know okay we'll get a piece of paper yes I can't it don't matter we'll get the sign down there I have no problem putting the sign out 695 00:44:22,269 --> 00:44:32,989 it's a good sign up what's going to do with the sign I'll just sign it up when we figure it out is what we can have we'll have our mail left here in a couple of hours 696 00:44:32,989 --> 00:44:47,179 they went through a whole year I wasn't around for that process didn't get it that's it I had a new business too 697 00:44:47,179 --> 00:44:48,179 oh Doug's got it 698 00:44:48,179 --> 00:45:03,030 okay what I'm going to ask you I actually have a question for Deb there and please put all this stuff about the inflammatory emails aside okay those weren't for me I do have some questions 699 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:04,329 oh I know they work for you 700 00:45:04,329 --> 00:45:04,809 huh 701 00:45:04,809 --> 00:45:06,230 I know they work for you 702 00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:06,449 oh 703 00:45:06,449 --> 00:45:18,809 no a couple of things I saw the letter that you responded to Nancy with about the work that's going on down here 704 00:45:18,809 --> 00:45:20,309 and 705 00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:20,469 and 706 00:45:20,469 --> 00:45:20,489 and 707 00:45:20,489 --> 00:45:50,880 you didn't think there was a change of permit needed or change for that use change needed because it's the same thing it's a charitable organization 501c3 yeah well but here's the thing first of all 501c3 what that has to do that's a tax related thing that has nothing to do with permits or building or I understand unless you're making I can see if you're using it to make the point that it is charitable but that really has nothing to do with it 708 00:45:50,880 --> 00:46:24,059 now the other thing here is that there's not a change of abuse and I did some looking into that we would hope the church is charitable but a church is a pious establishment a pious organization and as a matter of fact before they could the congregation could sell they had to desanctify the building so to say that's a continuation of use 709 00:46:24,179 --> 00:46:31,639 502 710 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,159 502 711 00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:56,179 503 712 00:46:56,179 --> 00:47:01,650 specifically what the activities are going to be we don't and we don't really know much about 713 00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:06,769 anything okay let me kind of shut up maybe we can do it but we don't we don't know anything about it 714 00:47:07,869 --> 00:47:17,889 and uh i think there should be a permit to if there's a change of use because yet yes there's 715 00:47:17,889 --> 00:47:24,699 a change of use it's still going to be a charitable organization but it's not being used as a church 716 00:47:24,699 --> 00:47:31,420 and i do think that the town of the people of town have some right to know what this change of 717 00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:37,869 use is going to be right now elsewhere knowing is that there's work going on there and that's it 718 00:47:37,869 --> 00:47:44,510 okay everybody all right you first well the decision i made was that there was no 719 00:47:45,550 --> 00:47:51,949 change of use required first of all it's we don't even have a change of use in our bylaws 720 00:47:51,949 --> 00:47:54,829 a conditional use we do but not a change of use 721 00:47:54,989 --> 00:47:57,650 That verbiage is nowhere in our bylaws. 722 00:47:58,530 --> 00:48:06,550 So, and also, it is more, so if monks went in there and did meditation, 723 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,719 that, you're saying that wouldn't be a change of views? 724 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:20,679 This is yoga, it's spiritual health, meditation, so it's a fine line. 725 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,789 I mean, if you, I feel it's not a change of views. 726 00:48:24,789 --> 00:48:34,519 The deed says, I mean, the follow of the deed, it still is of mind, body, health. 727 00:48:35,219 --> 00:48:37,219 Churches are of mind, body, health. 728 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,400 So, how would you want it written? 729 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:48,760 I'm asking, because I quarry pretty much the whole state of Vermont, 730 00:48:50,070 --> 00:48:56,630 and most of the people that came back and said change of views, 731 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:57,550 they have it written. 732 00:48:57,570 --> 00:48:59,829 It's written in their bylaws, and it's very specific. 733 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,329 The people that were kind of more in line with what I'm thinking said, 734 00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:08,530 no, it's not a change of views. 735 00:49:08,849 --> 00:49:16,150 It's kind of like you have a retail store that sells candy, 736 00:49:16,530 --> 00:49:19,500 and you go in and you change everything. 737 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:25,119 You've got all new displays, and they're selling socks. 738 00:49:26,659 --> 00:49:30,539 Same thing, change of views. 739 00:49:30,539 --> 00:49:30,619 Yes. 740 00:49:32,139 --> 00:49:32,480 So. 741 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,320 It was tricky. 742 00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:36,900 I'm not discounting either way. 743 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,679 I mean, it took me a long time to come to that decision, 744 00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:45,000 and I went through the VLCT, and like the BCRC, 745 00:49:45,260 --> 00:49:48,019 I queried other zoning administrators. 746 00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:50,360 Jim and I had this conversation. 747 00:49:50,760 --> 00:50:03,949 Being a past zoning administrator, I could not find, even in our permitting, 748 00:50:03,949 --> 00:50:06,500 how I would even write that up. 749 00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:08,280 Okay. 750 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,880 What is the state? 751 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,880 Does the state require a change of views? 752 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,380 Nope. 753 00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,639 All right. 754 00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:15,840 I had a question before. 755 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,239 Local zoning on that. 756 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,539 Before we go to Jen. 757 00:50:18,539 --> 00:50:19,340 I'm sorry. 758 00:50:19,340 --> 00:50:22,539 Laurie, I have a piece of land up on Riscoo Manitoba, 759 00:50:22,539 --> 00:50:27,139 about across the street from my camp, and I'm taxed as one piece of land. 760 00:50:27,139 --> 00:50:27,739 Yep. 761 00:50:27,739 --> 00:50:29,239 Is that the same thing down here? 762 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,139 Could they do it? 763 00:50:30,139 --> 00:50:34,099 The land has to be touching and in the same name. 764 00:50:34,099 --> 00:50:35,250 So. 765 00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:37,750 But if they put it in the same name, is that land touching? 766 00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:38,050 It is. 767 00:50:38,050 --> 00:50:38,750 Or is it? 768 00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:39,050 Yeah. 769 00:50:39,050 --> 00:50:40,150 It's contiguous. 770 00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:42,449 The road separates that. 771 00:50:42,449 --> 00:50:42,750 Right. 772 00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:43,849 That's what I'm saying. 773 00:50:43,849 --> 00:50:47,449 Up at Riscoo Manitoba, the road goes between them. 774 00:50:47,449 --> 00:50:48,449 Yes. 775 00:50:48,449 --> 00:50:51,949 You know, the Riscoo Manitoba goes between my two pieces of land. 776 00:50:51,949 --> 00:50:52,349 Yep. 777 00:50:52,349 --> 00:50:56,250 But I'm taxed as one piece of land because the road's the only thing. 778 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:57,250 They can combine. 779 00:50:57,250 --> 00:51:01,150 And I was just wondering if that is contingent or is it going up the road? 780 00:51:01,150 --> 00:51:01,550 I don't know. 781 00:51:01,550 --> 00:51:02,150 I'm just asking. 782 00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:03,349 I haven't looked at the maps. 783 00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:03,650 Okay. 784 00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:05,150 If it is touching. 785 00:51:05,250 --> 00:51:07,550 So couldn't they just pay? 786 00:51:07,550 --> 00:51:10,849 I just wanted to make sure with the address part of it. 787 00:51:10,849 --> 00:51:13,449 Couldn't they just call it out one address if they wanted to? 788 00:51:13,449 --> 00:51:13,949 No. 789 00:51:13,949 --> 00:51:16,449 You need it for 911 separate addresses. 790 00:51:16,449 --> 00:51:17,650 That's separate. 791 00:51:17,650 --> 00:51:18,650 Then taxes though. 792 00:51:18,650 --> 00:51:20,849 I think we're kind of over this. 793 00:51:20,849 --> 00:51:23,150 It's a very, very unique. 794 00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:25,150 Deb and I have talked at length at this. 795 00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:28,550 And I agree 100% with Deb in her decision. 796 00:51:28,550 --> 00:51:29,449 I'm sorry. 797 00:51:29,449 --> 00:51:30,849 Did I step on something here? 798 00:51:30,849 --> 00:51:31,250 Yes. 799 00:51:31,250 --> 00:51:33,050 Well, I didn't see his hand. 800 00:51:33,050 --> 00:51:33,750 That's all right. 801 00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:35,050 You weren't called on. 802 00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,940 No, I hadn't. 803 00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:38,739 Jeff? 804 00:51:38,739 --> 00:51:43,340 I know that the state of Vermont considers churches private property. 805 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:47,440 Therefore, it's still private property, no matter which way it goes. 806 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,840 Even though people can go there and do things on that property. 807 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,440 But it's not just . 808 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,039 It's still considered private property. 809 00:51:56,039 --> 00:51:58,440 So there's really no change in use. 810 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,840 So there's no bezel feed on it, right? 811 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,539 No. 812 00:52:01,539 --> 00:52:01,840 No. 813 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,400 It's classes. 814 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:05,900 They're free. 815 00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:06,400 They're free. 816 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:12,000 That are free to all of except for someone who comes in as a private contractor. 817 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,300 Right. 818 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:13,099 Or something. 819 00:52:13,099 --> 00:52:13,699 Yeah. 820 00:52:13,699 --> 00:52:14,000 OK. 821 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,800 No. 822 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,099 No. 823 00:52:17,099 --> 00:52:17,599 No. 824 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:23,300 Like somebody, an instructor that would come in and have to be paid. 825 00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:24,000 Then the class. 826 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,199 But for Stanford residents, it's still free. 827 00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:28,800 But they're paying for the instructor. 828 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,599 They have to pay for the instructor. 829 00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:31,099 Yeah. 830 00:52:31,099 --> 00:52:31,599 So. 831 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:32,099 No. 832 00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:32,500 No. 833 00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:33,000 No. 834 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,300 No. 835 00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:34,000 Go ahead. 836 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,199 So in our zoning bylaws. 837 00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:40,840 Should we put something in there, change of use? 838 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,639 Well, that was where I was going with this. 839 00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:50,139 I think there are so many things in the bylaws that need to be fine tuned. 840 00:52:50,139 --> 00:52:54,039 It seems like every, Jim, help me out here. 841 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:59,940 Every situation that I come up against is not in our bylaws. 842 00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:05,940 And it really has to be, so I can't literally interpret the bylaws. 843 00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:09,539 It really has to be, you know, looking at the state. 844 00:53:09,539 --> 00:53:11,539 Looking at how other towns handle it. 845 00:53:11,539 --> 00:53:14,269 And then you really have to come to a decision. 846 00:53:14,269 --> 00:53:15,670 Because it's not black and white. 847 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:24,289 So could we charge the planning commission to, when they go back to the zoning bylaws, put that in there? 848 00:53:24,289 --> 00:53:25,590 I'm disgusted with that line. 849 00:53:25,590 --> 00:53:27,590 There are so many other things. 850 00:53:27,590 --> 00:53:34,389 That's why I was disappointed that this sign is the only thing you guys are addressing in this vote. 851 00:53:34,389 --> 00:53:35,590 There are so many. 852 00:53:35,590 --> 00:53:36,289 So many. 853 00:53:36,289 --> 00:53:39,889 So many important things that need to be addressed. 854 00:53:39,889 --> 00:53:41,289 But you go to the plan. 855 00:53:41,289 --> 00:53:42,690 I won't even go anymore. 856 00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:49,090 Because you go to the planning commission meeting and you might as well throw the agenda right out the window. 857 00:53:49,090 --> 00:53:51,190 It just turns into a free for all. 858 00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:55,719 And that's the way it's been for years. 859 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,969 That's how my new business will get to that. 860 00:53:58,969 --> 00:53:59,969 Good. 861 00:53:59,969 --> 00:54:00,969 Okay. 862 00:54:00,969 --> 00:54:03,670 If I might add on to the church thing. 863 00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:04,670 It's like. 864 00:54:04,670 --> 00:54:05,869 So you guys charge me. 865 00:54:05,869 --> 00:54:14,670 When there was a lull in AOs here which asked me to come back temporarily to take care of a couple of matters. 866 00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:16,869 And so I did. 867 00:54:16,869 --> 00:54:19,469 And I looked at deeds. 868 00:54:19,469 --> 00:54:22,670 I looked at what they were actually doing. 869 00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:27,570 They are a licensed farm for wellness and all that stuff. 870 00:54:27,570 --> 00:54:35,070 And in fact, the language in their deed and the language in the church's deed are very similar. 871 00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:46,940 In fact, the bill of sale on the church, and you guys will probably know this, that the language says that it has to continue as the Bible. 872 00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:48,940 I don't know how to proceed. 873 00:54:48,940 --> 00:54:50,940 Noun sorted. 874 00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:52,940 It has contingencies on it. 875 00:54:52,940 --> 00:54:53,940 Right. 876 00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:57,940 It's contingencies and it's the same contingencies as the church. 877 00:54:57,940 --> 00:54:58,940 Right. 878 00:54:58,940 --> 00:55:04,940 So that's where I came to the conclusion with, all right, they're doing the same thing. 879 00:55:05,139 --> 00:55:08,289 It's the same thing as what the church was doing. 880 00:55:08,289 --> 00:55:12,289 Whether it's desanctified or whatever that, you know, whatever that is. 881 00:55:12,289 --> 00:55:15,420 But it is a tricky thing. 882 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:16,420 It's just what it's got to say. 883 00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:17,420 And it's not in our Bible. 884 00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:21,420 I have a couple of quick questions about permits, though. 885 00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:24,420 So there's no business at the moment. 886 00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:29,420 No one came to you from that property, property owner, and asked you if they needed a permit, right? 887 00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:30,420 Yeah. 888 00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:31,420 So you didn't have to give them in writing. 889 00:55:31,420 --> 00:55:32,420 Nope. 890 00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:35,420 So right now, you just have townspeople coming to you. 891 00:55:35,619 --> 00:55:36,619 Correct. 892 00:55:36,619 --> 00:55:40,619 Second is, I know there's state laws, okay? 893 00:55:40,619 --> 00:55:44,900 So they did renovate some of their property. 894 00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:46,900 I wouldn't consider it a demo. 895 00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:48,900 I would consider it a renovation. 896 00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:50,900 Yeah, it wasn't a demo. 897 00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:52,900 Have you been in there? 898 00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:53,900 For the laws? 899 00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:54,900 I've been in there many times. 900 00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:55,900 Since they did it? 901 00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:56,900 No. 902 00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:57,900 Okay. 903 00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:58,900 No, but I will stop talking. 904 00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:03,900 What I'm asking is, is it the towns? 905 00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:05,900 I know the Board of Health, that's one of the towns. 906 00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:13,639 But is it the town's duty to look into permits for state permits? 907 00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:22,639 And the reason why I ask that question is there's been people that they came, they did work, they got permits in the town, but didn't get state permits. 908 00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:25,639 The town apparently at the time didn't tell them. 909 00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:27,639 And they got in trouble for the state. 910 00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:31,090 That's the owner's problem, not the town's. 911 00:56:31,090 --> 00:56:32,090 Am I correct? 912 00:56:32,090 --> 00:56:33,090 That is correct. 913 00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:34,090 Yes. 914 00:56:34,090 --> 00:56:35,090 It's incumbent. 915 00:56:35,090 --> 00:56:36,090 Yeah. 916 00:56:36,090 --> 00:56:37,090 Right. 917 00:56:37,090 --> 00:56:38,090 Well, it all, it trickles down to state permits. 918 00:56:38,090 --> 00:56:39,090 So I understand a Board of Health problem. 919 00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:40,090 Is there a town mayor burning tires in the back? 920 00:56:40,090 --> 00:56:41,090 The abatement, the lead, all of that stuff, the abatement thing that you're referring to, 921 00:56:41,090 --> 00:56:42,090 in the state law, it refers to the demoing part of it. 922 00:56:42,090 --> 00:56:43,090 I've done a bunch of research on this because of the Lincoln building that got, not the 923 00:56:43,090 --> 00:56:44,090 Lincoln, but . 924 00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:45,090 I get it. 925 00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:46,090 I get it. 926 00:56:46,090 --> 00:56:47,090 Yep. 927 00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:48,090 So, it's not a demo. 928 00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:49,090 Right. 929 00:56:49,090 --> 00:56:50,090 Right. 930 00:56:50,090 --> 00:56:51,090 Right. 931 00:56:51,090 --> 00:56:52,090 Right. 932 00:56:52,090 --> 00:56:53,090 Right. 933 00:56:53,090 --> 00:56:54,090 Right. 934 00:56:54,090 --> 00:56:55,090 Right. 935 00:56:55,090 --> 00:56:56,090 Right. 936 00:56:56,090 --> 00:56:57,090 Right. 937 00:56:57,090 --> 00:56:58,090 Right. 938 00:56:58,090 --> 00:56:59,090 Right. 939 00:56:59,090 --> 00:57:00,090 Right. 940 00:57:00,090 --> 00:57:01,090 Right. 941 00:57:01,090 --> 00:57:02,090 Right. 942 00:57:02,090 --> 00:57:03,090 Right. 943 00:57:03,090 --> 00:57:04,090 Right. 944 00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:05,090 Right. 945 00:57:05,090 --> 00:57:06,090 Right. 946 00:57:06,090 --> 00:57:07,090 There is state regulations. 947 00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:10,590 And we all know it's as simple as this. 948 00:57:10,590 --> 00:57:16,949 You buy your house anywhere, what's the first thing that they make you do before you get 949 00:57:16,949 --> 00:57:18,039 a mortgage? 950 00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:19,039 Lead-based paint. 951 00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:20,039 Disclosure. 952 00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:21,039 Lead and asbestos. 953 00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:22,039 Yep. 954 00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:23,039 Asbestos. 955 00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:24,039 Yep. 956 00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:25,039 Okay? 957 00:57:25,039 --> 00:57:26,039 So that's where all this language is coming from. 958 00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:27,039 It is amazing. 959 00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:30,179 If you do demolition, even if it's partial demolition, technically, you're supposed to 960 00:57:30,179 --> 00:57:31,179 have an inspector. 961 00:57:31,179 --> 00:57:32,179 Right. 962 00:57:32,179 --> 00:57:33,179 Not a state permit, but a state permit. 963 00:57:33,179 --> 00:57:34,179 Right. 964 00:57:34,179 --> 00:57:40,820 permit, but a contractor, I just got off the phone with a contractor, in fact, he just 965 00:57:40,820 --> 00:57:46,650 texted me, he said he'd be more than happy to come here and talk to the board to let 966 00:57:46,650 --> 00:57:54,780 you guys know that what, yes, it's up to the contractors, it's up to the landowners or 967 00:57:54,780 --> 00:58:01,940 to the house, the people who owns the place, to have, if you're selling the house, to have 968 00:58:01,940 --> 00:58:06,659 this stuff readily available, right, that's what they did, and there's what they found 969 00:58:06,659 --> 00:58:07,139 out about it. 970 00:58:07,139 --> 00:58:15,760 The town had an opportunity to buy the property, you had to go in there and inspect the place, 971 00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:24,039 right, and they gave us a full booklet of what their analysis was of the building. 972 00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:31,920 So then they demoed the partial, partial of the garage got demoed, right, and so, but, 973 00:58:31,940 --> 00:58:36,780 you guys got them certificates, you know, as a select board, you know, that it was perfectly 974 00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:37,739 safe for them to do. 975 00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:47,960 Now, did they, well, what this gentleman told me, the person who is absolutely responsible 976 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:53,849 for this is the people who come and pick up the garbage, the dumpsters, the stuff, all 977 00:58:53,849 --> 00:58:58,039 that, they can't get rid of it unless they have a certificate. 978 00:58:58,659 --> 00:59:01,400 Oh, yeah, but all the landowners are responsible for it, huh? 979 00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:02,699 Landowners are also responsible. 980 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,260 Landowners are also responsible at the end of the day. 981 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:04,880 Long day. 982 00:59:05,059 --> 00:59:06,000 At the end of the day, absolutely. 983 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,980 If you got rid of asbestos, if you had asbestos and you bought your house and said, you have 984 00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:11,739 asbestos there. 985 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,260 Just like you and the business would come up. 986 00:59:13,260 --> 00:59:13,480 Right. 987 00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:15,360 You get rid of it, you're responsible. 988 00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:15,760 Right. 989 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,699 But I'm just saying, she doesn't need anything else. 990 00:59:19,699 --> 00:59:20,739 So, the next thing. 991 00:59:20,739 --> 00:59:26,619 In this situation, just so, the gentleman, the contractor's name is Lincoln, I think 992 00:59:26,619 --> 00:59:27,719 he lives up on Jetson. 993 00:59:28,670 --> 00:59:32,869 He, when he was doing the inside, brought to our attention. 994 00:59:32,929 --> 00:59:37,750 Several things, you know, we're, we're not going to pull up the flooring, we're going 995 00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:40,150 to just cover it up, which is right. 996 00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:47,309 So, he's very, very well versed on asbestos and lead and all of that, knowing that you 997 00:59:47,309 --> 00:59:50,510 have to encapsulate rather than pull everything out. 998 00:59:50,949 --> 00:59:56,230 So, I think, and I, it, it happens so fast. 999 00:59:56,369 --> 01:00:02,090 None of us have actually got to look at it, but I really have to believe that there was 1000 01:00:02,090 --> 01:00:02,969 nothing there. 1001 01:00:03,150 --> 01:00:03,329 Yeah. 1002 01:00:03,329 --> 01:00:04,389 It was covered in vinyl. 1003 01:00:04,510 --> 01:00:06,750 There was no siding behind it. 1004 01:00:07,130 --> 01:00:11,789 So, whether it was gone years ago, it was wood. 1005 01:00:12,050 --> 01:00:12,250 Right. 1006 01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:14,929 They took down unpainted wood. 1007 01:00:14,949 --> 01:00:14,969 Yeah. 1008 01:00:14,969 --> 01:00:15,630 Just with the alcohol. 1009 01:00:15,730 --> 01:00:18,269 So, this is, this has nothing to do with the planning commission. 1010 01:00:18,269 --> 01:00:20,070 It has nothing to do with the AOL. 1011 01:00:20,489 --> 01:00:21,590 And I, and I, that's right. 1012 01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:24,030 It has nothing to do with asbestos or lead. 1013 01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:25,309 Right. 1014 01:00:25,489 --> 01:00:26,250 It says everything. 1015 01:00:26,489 --> 01:00:27,730 I'm just saying that that's. 1016 01:00:27,969 --> 01:00:30,769 So, my, I have one more question from Denville. 1017 01:00:30,989 --> 01:00:33,469 If the church was still there. 1018 01:00:33,469 --> 01:00:36,769 And they wanted to put up a building, they would need a permit, right? 1019 01:00:36,769 --> 01:00:37,230 Yes. 1020 01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:39,829 And if they wanted to put up a sign, they would need a permit. 1021 01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:40,130 Absolutely. 1022 01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:40,590 And so on. 1023 01:00:40,590 --> 01:00:41,170 Right. 1024 01:00:41,170 --> 01:00:42,489 Just like anybody else. 1025 01:00:42,489 --> 01:00:46,369 The only thing is this change of use, which you're saying is not even in the 1026 01:00:46,369 --> 01:00:47,809 bylaws, right? 1027 01:00:47,869 --> 01:00:52,869 So, and then if they want to start a business, if there was a business, so if 1028 01:00:52,869 --> 01:00:56,309 there was a package store in there or something, they would need to come and 1029 01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:56,909 ask for that. 1030 01:00:57,190 --> 01:01:02,289 It would be then, we would call it a conditional use, it would go in front of 1031 01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:03,110 the planning commission. 1032 01:01:03,110 --> 01:01:04,349 At that point. 1033 01:01:04,349 --> 01:01:08,150 And they would say, you have, you have hours of, you know, you're, you're 1034 01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:09,010 open at. 1035 01:01:09,010 --> 01:01:11,010 Lighting and parking lot. 1036 01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:11,510 Yeah. 1037 01:01:11,809 --> 01:01:12,110 Okay. 1038 01:01:13,110 --> 01:01:13,510 Okay. 1039 01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:14,809 I can finish up here. 1040 01:01:15,469 --> 01:01:22,079 Uh, just a personal opinion, but I disagree with this, the fine line between 1041 01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:29,199 it being a religion and spiritual, a religion is an organized movement, and 1042 01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:32,960 he has a specific rituals, things of this thing. 1043 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,960 I'm all for the spiritual, that's fine, but I don't see where that's the same thing. 1044 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,360 But, but it, that's, I'm not saying it's a building. 1045 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,400 We're talking about the building. 1046 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,260 I'm not talking about the actions, the, yeah, the actions. 1047 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,960 No, but we're talking, I'm sorry, I was going to say change of, change of use. 1048 01:01:52,659 --> 01:01:58,460 There has been a change of use because of the desertification or sanctification. 1049 01:01:58,460 --> 01:01:59,659 There has been a change of use. 1050 01:02:00,059 --> 01:02:02,199 Now, the other thing I'm wondering about. 1051 01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:02,300 Yeah. 1052 01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:02,360 Yeah. 1053 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,599 Yeah. 1054 01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:02,659 Yeah. 1055 01:02:02,659 --> 01:02:02,760 Yeah. 1056 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:02,860 Yeah. 1057 01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:02,920 Yeah. 1058 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:02,940 Yeah. 1059 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,699 What's going on with the, uh, what is it, the Katie's Creamery there? 1060 01:02:07,449 --> 01:02:08,389 I'm not sure. 1061 01:02:08,650 --> 01:02:09,329 Did they have that? 1062 01:02:09,429 --> 01:02:10,170 Well, that's something I didn't even know. 1063 01:02:10,170 --> 01:02:11,550 They have state permits. 1064 01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:11,969 Huh? 1065 01:02:12,110 --> 01:02:14,269 They, they don't need a permit from me. 1066 01:02:14,550 --> 01:02:20,769 They have state, they are licensed, or they have permits from the state for sanitation 1067 01:02:20,769 --> 01:02:23,349 and, and food handling and all of that. 1068 01:02:23,449 --> 01:02:25,170 Well, I have no problem with that. 1069 01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:29,329 I'm just asking, apparently that's becoming part of the property there. 1070 01:02:29,409 --> 01:02:30,949 I mean, you're letting them use it. 1071 01:02:31,070 --> 01:02:31,949 They're letting them use it. 1072 01:02:31,949 --> 01:02:32,929 It's nothing like. 1073 01:02:33,050 --> 01:02:33,110 It's nothing like. 1074 01:02:33,110 --> 01:02:34,110 It's a food truck. 1075 01:02:34,110 --> 01:02:35,110 It's a food truck. 1076 01:02:35,110 --> 01:02:36,110 I see what you're saying. 1077 01:02:36,110 --> 01:02:37,110 There's no permit use in town. 1078 01:02:37,110 --> 01:02:38,110 Correct. 1079 01:02:38,110 --> 01:02:39,110 But I just want to make these points now. 1080 01:02:39,110 --> 01:02:40,110 And another thing that bothers me, we are looking, every time we look around, where 1081 01:02:40,110 --> 01:02:41,110 can we get the money for this? 1082 01:02:41,110 --> 01:02:42,110 Where can we get the money for that? 1083 01:02:42,110 --> 01:02:43,110 And now, we have, we did some figuring the other day between that property being taken 1084 01:02:43,110 --> 01:02:44,110 off the tax rolls. 1085 01:02:44,110 --> 01:02:45,110 Well, it wasn't on the tax rolls, but potentially it could have been. 1086 01:02:45,110 --> 01:02:46,110 And then, the Stone Lion Farming Company. 1087 01:02:46,110 --> 01:02:47,110 Yeah. 1088 01:02:47,110 --> 01:02:48,110 Yeah. 1089 01:02:48,110 --> 01:02:49,110 Yeah. 1090 01:02:49,110 --> 01:02:50,110 Yeah. 1091 01:02:50,110 --> 01:02:51,110 Yeah. 1092 01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:52,110 Yeah. 1093 01:02:52,110 --> 01:02:53,110 Yeah. 1094 01:02:53,110 --> 01:02:54,110 Yeah. 1095 01:02:54,110 --> 01:02:55,110 Yeah. 1096 01:02:55,110 --> 01:02:56,110 Yeah. 1097 01:02:56,110 --> 01:02:57,110 Yeah. 1098 01:02:57,110 --> 01:02:58,110 Yeah. 1099 01:02:58,110 --> 01:02:59,110 Yeah. 1100 01:02:59,110 --> 01:03:00,110 Yeah. 1101 01:03:00,110 --> 01:03:01,110 Yeah. 1102 01:03:01,110 --> 01:03:02,110 Yeah. 1103 01:03:02,110 --> 01:03:03,110 Yeah. 1104 01:03:03,110 --> 01:03:04,110 Yeah. 1105 01:03:04,110 --> 01:03:05,110 I guess not on the tax rolls. 1106 01:03:05,110 --> 01:03:06,110 They're all on the tax rolls. 1107 01:03:06,110 --> 01:03:07,110 They're on the tax rolls! 1108 01:03:07,110 --> 01:03:08,110 They're on the tax rolls. 1109 01:03:08,110 --> 01:03:09,110 Stelya burned her. 1110 01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:10,110 You can't Georgie, you can't- 1111 01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:11,110 The thing is, we're starting to open up a can of worms, and that's a good point. 1112 01:03:11,110 --> 01:03:14,710 Like, you're about, you're talking about wasting money, you're about to lose money. 1113 01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:19,269 If you keep going, and somebody's actually doing something the correct way and doing 1114 01:03:19,269 --> 01:03:22,590 things the way she should be, you're about to lose a lot of money. 1115 01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:25,369 You can't actually have a problem. 1116 01:03:25,369 --> 01:03:28,090 That's what I'm saying, like as far as- 1117 01:03:28,090 --> 01:03:29,170 She doesn't have to pay taxes. 1118 01:03:29,170 --> 01:03:30,570 As far as we're concerned, she has said- 1119 01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:32,349 That's all I can say about what Pete's saying right now. 1120 01:03:32,349 --> 01:03:36,130 of change comes a time where we try to do something positive, there seems to be this 1121 01:03:36,130 --> 01:03:40,550 momentum forward to stop it. And it has nothing to do with anything else other than to stop 1122 01:03:40,550 --> 01:03:44,969 it. It's got nothing to do with this, it's got nothing to do with the fact that it was 1123 01:03:44,969 --> 01:03:50,429 a church. It's just like these hidden vendettas that people want to do and push forward to 1124 01:03:50,429 --> 01:03:53,949 stop any type of change, positive direction that may come to town. 1125 01:03:54,090 --> 01:04:00,130 Okay, can I make a point on that? Can I make a point on that? I agree, do things the right 1126 01:04:00,130 --> 01:04:05,469 way. I have a question now, and I'm out of vendetta, who am I against? 1127 01:04:05,730 --> 01:04:10,010 I don't know if it's you, but this is a sentiment that goes around. 1128 01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:15,539 I have a question. I am concerned. They are paying taxes to the town? 1129 01:04:15,639 --> 01:04:16,039 Yes. 1130 01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:18,380 She doesn't have to, but she does, yeah. 1131 01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:20,900 Was it the church? Was it the church? 1132 01:04:21,219 --> 01:04:22,980 No, the church is the defense. 1133 01:04:22,980 --> 01:04:23,880 All right, that's fine. 1134 01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:25,380 So was it the line? 1135 01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:26,940 That was my concern. 1136 01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:29,659 So this is a group and an entity that came into their town. 1137 01:04:30,219 --> 01:04:32,340 And they bought that church. 1138 01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:36,460 You're lucky she's not torn down and made it a parking lot. 1139 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:37,940 That's a historical building. 1140 01:04:38,380 --> 01:04:39,760 She's put money into the place. 1141 01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:43,260 And everything she's done in town has made it better. 1142 01:04:43,420 --> 01:04:44,639 She bought the lion's farm. 1143 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,099 That place was all overgrown. 1144 01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:48,460 She put new fences in. 1145 01:04:48,980 --> 01:04:50,199 Did you see animals there? 1146 01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:54,400 There's been a summit in the town up her ass, excuse my language, since she's moved here. 1147 01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:56,300 It's a vendetta. 1148 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,119 It's got nothing to do with anything else. 1149 01:04:58,179 --> 01:04:59,579 I even heard somebody. 1150 01:04:59,579 --> 01:05:00,079 Well, I don't think so. 1151 01:05:00,219 --> 01:05:05,119 A town official, not any of you guys, I actually heard, which I couldn't believe, 1152 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:11,239 is there's this rumor going around that this is a big front for something. 1153 01:05:12,179 --> 01:05:15,940 And it didn't just come from one person. 1154 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,239 It all over. 1155 01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:20,119 Change happens. 1156 01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:21,900 Otherwise, we'd be sitting here in Nakers. 1157 01:05:22,159 --> 01:05:23,360 She's got a beat to it. 1158 01:05:23,420 --> 01:05:24,179 Change happens. 1159 01:05:25,340 --> 01:05:25,519 Yeah. 1160 01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:26,539 CPR certified. 1161 01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:27,460 I am too. 1162 01:05:27,460 --> 01:05:29,820 And she's. 1163 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,900 Oh, the town just told me in person, or I'm sure a number of people, she's willing to 1164 01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:37,519 open it up to the town for town use. 1165 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,639 How do we know? 1166 01:05:39,019 --> 01:05:40,099 Now, how do we know? 1167 01:05:40,099 --> 01:05:41,239 That's something you want to understand. 1168 01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:41,760 Well, by the CPR class. 1169 01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:42,639 Was it advertised? 1170 01:05:42,739 --> 01:05:43,340 Yes, it was. 1171 01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:43,719 It was. 1172 01:05:44,820 --> 01:05:45,579 He did it. 1173 01:05:45,579 --> 01:05:45,960 On Facebook. 1174 01:05:46,460 --> 01:05:47,400 He did it. 1175 01:05:47,519 --> 01:05:47,760 Yep. 1176 01:05:48,059 --> 01:05:51,960 That's no different if Pete came to my house and did it out in a barn. 1177 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:52,940 Yeah. 1178 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:53,639 It's the same thing. 1179 01:05:53,699 --> 01:05:54,579 I'm not charging. 1180 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,840 It's my house. 1181 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,380 Pete wants to do a volunteer class for CPR and he comes to my house. 1182 01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:00,280 Go ahead. 1183 01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:03,559 My question is on the taxes, though. 1184 01:06:03,739 --> 01:06:08,670 I know you said they don't have to pay, but isn't there paperwork they have to file with 1185 01:06:08,670 --> 01:06:15,289 the town that says they are tax exempt just because they're a 501c3 doesn't automatically 1186 01:06:15,289 --> 01:06:16,269 give them? 1187 01:06:16,889 --> 01:06:18,050 Isn't it on the deed? 1188 01:06:18,389 --> 01:06:19,829 It's all in there. 1189 01:06:20,610 --> 01:06:23,349 Well, I looked at it, but I didn't see it tax exempt. 1190 01:06:23,590 --> 01:06:24,030 That's good enough. 1191 01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:25,650 Listers tax differently. 1192 01:06:26,130 --> 01:06:29,869 Well, a 501c3 is a tax exempt. 1193 01:06:29,869 --> 01:06:29,929 Yeah. 1194 01:06:29,929 --> 01:06:29,989 Yeah. 1195 01:06:29,989 --> 01:06:30,050 Yeah. 1196 01:06:30,050 --> 01:06:30,090 Yeah. 1197 01:06:30,090 --> 01:06:30,110 Yeah. 1198 01:06:30,110 --> 01:06:30,130 Yeah. 1199 01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:30,150 Yeah. 1200 01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:30,210 Yeah. 1201 01:06:30,210 --> 01:06:30,230 Yeah. 1202 01:06:30,230 --> 01:06:30,250 Yeah. 1203 01:06:30,250 --> 01:06:30,489 Yeah. 1204 01:06:30,510 --> 01:06:36,489 I don't feel that if you're a 501c3 or whatever, you should be able to do things wrong. 1205 01:06:36,909 --> 01:06:38,570 That's why I ask all the questions. 1206 01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:38,969 Yes. 1207 01:06:39,110 --> 01:06:42,110 If the church was still there, they would have to do certain things. 1208 01:06:42,170 --> 01:06:42,369 Correct. 1209 01:06:42,489 --> 01:06:48,210 So if they do other things that they need a permit for, they need to make sure they get 1210 01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:48,530 a permit. 1211 01:06:48,809 --> 01:06:52,889 So far, what I've seen, at least, is they don't need a permit. 1212 01:06:53,230 --> 01:06:58,489 And if there's someone that thinks they may do, don't you think they do, and you could 1213 01:06:58,489 --> 01:07:00,210 convince me, I'd be all for it. 1214 01:07:00,210 --> 01:07:06,329 Well, if there's not something that says we need to permit, fine. 1215 01:07:06,570 --> 01:07:06,750 Right. 1216 01:07:06,949 --> 01:07:11,389 And I would point out, I hear everybody saying, oh, they're doing it the right way, they're 1217 01:07:11,389 --> 01:07:13,190 doing it the right way, then fine. 1218 01:07:13,489 --> 01:07:19,630 I just want to say this by myself, and for the other people, hold on a second, please, 1219 01:07:20,530 --> 01:07:22,070 that they're doing things the right way. 1220 01:07:22,210 --> 01:07:23,210 Now, if they are, fine. 1221 01:07:24,130 --> 01:07:29,630 But I see this expressing, I was expressing to somebody earlier, I have questions. 1222 01:07:29,630 --> 01:07:30,250 Mm-hmm. 1223 01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:36,010 This is somebody that's all ready to spend $50,000 to put a septic system in a church. 1224 01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:40,789 I'm sure she's not afraid to spend a couple hundred dollars on a permit, if necessary. 1225 01:07:40,969 --> 01:07:45,289 One thing, yeah, just to point out, because the church is sending sewage into the river. 1226 01:07:45,469 --> 01:07:45,650 Right. 1227 01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:48,369 Okay, so you want to talk about people doing things the right way. 1228 01:07:48,409 --> 01:07:48,570 Right. 1229 01:07:48,570 --> 01:07:50,489 She's putting in a septic system. 1230 01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:57,869 When this all went down, I was on the church committee, and I was on this committee, or 1231 01:07:57,869 --> 01:07:58,610 on this board. 1232 01:07:59,210 --> 01:07:59,369 Right. 1233 01:07:59,369 --> 01:07:59,409 Right. 1234 01:07:59,409 --> 01:07:59,429 Right. 1235 01:07:59,429 --> 01:07:59,449 Right. 1236 01:07:59,449 --> 01:07:59,469 Right. 1237 01:07:59,469 --> 01:07:59,489 Right. 1238 01:07:59,489 --> 01:07:59,510 Right. 1239 01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:59,530 Right. 1240 01:07:59,530 --> 01:07:59,550 Right. 1241 01:07:59,550 --> 01:07:59,570 Right. 1242 01:07:59,570 --> 01:07:59,590 Right. 1243 01:07:59,590 --> 01:07:59,610 Right. 1244 01:07:59,610 --> 01:07:59,630 Right. 1245 01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:59,650 Right. 1246 01:07:59,650 --> 01:07:59,670 Right. 1247 01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:59,690 Right. 1248 01:07:59,690 --> 01:07:59,710 Right. 1249 01:07:59,710 --> 01:07:59,730 Right. 1250 01:07:59,730 --> 01:07:59,750 Right. 1251 01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:59,769 Right. 1252 01:07:59,769 --> 01:07:59,809 Right. 1253 01:07:59,809 --> 01:08:00,530 Right. 1254 01:08:00,530 --> 01:08:00,809 Right. 1255 01:08:00,809 --> 01:08:01,750 Right. 1256 01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:02,090 Right. 1257 01:08:02,090 --> 01:08:02,110 Right. 1258 01:08:02,110 --> 01:08:02,150 Right. 1259 01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:02,170 Right. 1260 01:08:02,170 --> 01:08:02,210 Right. 1261 01:08:02,210 --> 01:08:02,230 Right. 1262 01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:02,250 Right. 1263 01:08:02,250 --> 01:08:02,269 Right. 1264 01:08:02,269 --> 01:08:02,349 Right. 1265 01:08:02,349 --> 01:08:02,449 Right. 1266 01:08:02,449 --> 01:08:02,469 Right. 1267 01:08:02,469 --> 01:08:04,650 I went down because I went down. 1268 01:08:04,809 --> 01:08:05,110 You were there. 1269 01:08:05,289 --> 01:08:07,530 And I helped clean the church out. 1270 01:08:07,949 --> 01:08:11,769 If anybody wants St. Bosco's posters, I got a bunch of them. 1271 01:08:12,050 --> 01:08:14,909 But I had everything that was in that church. 1272 01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:15,570 Everything. 1273 01:08:15,650 --> 01:08:16,289 The pews and everything. 1274 01:08:16,289 --> 01:08:16,750 Is that my house? 1275 01:08:17,109 --> 01:08:18,909 I got about four pews left. 1276 01:08:19,029 --> 01:08:19,250 Nice. 1277 01:08:19,369 --> 01:08:23,529 The problem with the pews are I left them outside, so you need to restate them. 1278 01:08:23,729 --> 01:08:27,789 But I gave away, I don't know, a dozen of them. 1279 01:08:27,810 --> 01:08:28,170 Nice. 1280 01:08:28,170 --> 01:08:29,649 So, and they were happy. 1281 01:08:29,810 --> 01:08:34,409 and I took them three pews at a time up to my house. 1282 01:08:34,409 --> 01:08:36,989 But anyway, that's beside the point. 1283 01:08:36,989 --> 01:08:40,550 What I'm saying is I had a long conversation with Stephanie 1284 01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:42,829 and just like John's saying this, 1285 01:08:42,829 --> 01:08:45,069 she is willing to open things up 1286 01:08:45,069 --> 01:08:47,010 because we were actually on the same page. 1287 01:08:47,010 --> 01:08:49,630 What the town wanted to do and what she wants to do 1288 01:08:49,630 --> 01:08:54,630 is community, you know, help community efforts, events, 1289 01:08:55,210 --> 01:08:58,210 you know, things that the community can go to. 1290 01:08:58,210 --> 01:08:59,670 So we were both on the same page. 1291 01:08:59,670 --> 01:09:02,770 The town wanted to do it, but we still had the money, okay? 1292 01:09:02,770 --> 01:09:07,069 So I think what she's doing is great, right? 1293 01:09:07,069 --> 01:09:09,109 I'm all for what she's doing. 1294 01:09:09,109 --> 01:09:11,510 And I've talked to her and I've gone over to the farm. 1295 01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:13,449 I haven't been in the building over there, 1296 01:09:13,449 --> 01:09:16,050 but I went over to the farm and I actually had some poop. 1297 01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:21,050 And you know, I'll take any of the poop, but nevertheless, 1298 01:09:22,050 --> 01:09:25,170 I agree with all of that and then I agree with Doug 1299 01:09:25,170 --> 01:09:28,210 that if we make sure we're doing it the right way, 1300 01:09:28,210 --> 01:09:29,909 that's what we hire Doug for, 1301 01:09:29,909 --> 01:09:32,270 is to make sure that things are getting done the right way. 1302 01:09:32,270 --> 01:09:34,989 She and I talk very frequently. 1303 01:09:34,989 --> 01:09:37,829 Now, one thing that I would, 1304 01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:40,949 when the planning commission starts to go through 1305 01:09:40,949 --> 01:09:43,630 the bylaws, Jim and I talked about this too, 1306 01:09:43,630 --> 01:09:46,829 it would be a very smart thing to have something 1307 01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:51,829 in the bylaws or a permit for kind of migratory food trucks. 1308 01:09:53,229 --> 01:09:55,590 You know, somebody that might want to- 1309 01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:56,609 Ding dong cart. 1310 01:09:56,609 --> 01:09:57,850 A ding dong cart. 1311 01:09:58,210 --> 01:09:59,970 That would be important. 1312 01:09:59,970 --> 01:10:03,810 So we know, we sanctioned that they're in town. 1313 01:10:03,810 --> 01:10:05,390 So that can't be a bylaw. 1314 01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:06,829 It can't be a bylaw. 1315 01:10:06,829 --> 01:10:07,670 Yeah. 1316 01:10:07,670 --> 01:10:08,510 It would be- 1317 01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:10,210 And again, I don't want to start the ice cream 1318 01:10:10,210 --> 01:10:11,569 wars all over again. 1319 01:10:11,569 --> 01:10:17,300 Would the ice cream trailer, I wouldn't call it a truck 1320 01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:19,100 because it's not mobile. 1321 01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:19,939 Right. 1322 01:10:19,939 --> 01:10:20,779 It doesn't go anywhere. 1323 01:10:20,779 --> 01:10:23,479 It doesn't have a motor to start up, but it's kind of, 1324 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,739 yeah, I guess, I mean, I could put anything on wheels, 1325 01:10:25,739 --> 01:10:29,020 I guess, you know, but I'm just saying is, 1326 01:10:29,420 --> 01:10:33,199 when he went through all the crap down at the other property 1327 01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:36,180 when it first started, he went through a bunch of crap 1328 01:10:36,180 --> 01:10:38,140 and now he's moved it different places. 1329 01:10:38,140 --> 01:10:39,920 Does he have to go through crap again? 1330 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:40,760 No. 1331 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,399 No, because it's state permitted at this point. 1332 01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:44,180 So why did he have to go through it the first time? 1333 01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:45,020 He didn't. 1334 01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:45,859 All right. 1335 01:10:45,859 --> 01:10:46,699 That was the whole thing. 1336 01:10:46,699 --> 01:10:47,539 Just like the sign. 1337 01:10:47,539 --> 01:10:48,380 Yeah. 1338 01:10:48,380 --> 01:10:49,220 Okay. 1339 01:10:49,220 --> 01:10:50,720 So what we're here for- 1340 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:51,560 I'm sorry. 1341 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:52,399 Go ahead. 1342 01:10:52,399 --> 01:10:54,520 So it's a funny, because I looked, 1343 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,680 I questioned Deb too about change of use 1344 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,180 because it's always been that way. 1345 01:10:59,420 --> 01:11:01,159 She said, no, we don't need it. 1346 01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:03,859 So I looked through the zoning bylaws carefully. 1347 01:11:03,859 --> 01:11:05,800 There's nothing in there that says change of use. 1348 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,640 There isn't. 1349 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,479 There isn't, no, there's nothing in there. 1350 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:08,319 Oh, wow. 1351 01:11:08,319 --> 01:11:09,159 Absolutely nothing. 1352 01:11:09,159 --> 01:11:10,000 It was always, it was always- 1353 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:10,840 So he's done that way. 1354 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:11,939 I know. 1355 01:11:11,939 --> 01:11:14,180 Where change of use comes in under state law 1356 01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:17,359 is that say, dog, you got your house 1357 01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:19,779 and oh, now you want to start a business, 1358 01:11:19,779 --> 01:11:22,760 but you can't just do it in one side of your house. 1359 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,420 You need to change your house 1360 01:11:24,420 --> 01:11:27,000 and change that whole structure of mine. 1361 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,760 I want to put a machine shop in this house. 1362 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,800 Right, that's a change of use. 1363 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,800 She bought that place, she didn't change the use. 1364 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,659 She bought a building. 1365 01:11:37,659 --> 01:11:39,460 There's no use change. 1366 01:11:39,460 --> 01:11:43,500 The church was gone, it was sold. 1367 01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:45,439 Not there no more, it's a building. 1368 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,720 So she bought a building, there's no change of use. 1369 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,960 I mean, when the church came, 1370 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,680 wasn't that prior to at a store? 1371 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:52,520 Am I right? 1372 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,680 That was in the 40s, I don't think we had bylaws then. 1373 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,880 We were gone in April. 1374 01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:58,720 I guess somewhere- 1375 01:11:58,720 --> 01:11:59,560 Or something else. 1376 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,810 No, this is just to finish it for myself here. 1377 01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:06,810 I had that question, and if I have a question, 1378 01:12:06,810 --> 01:12:08,619 you're gonna ask it. 1379 01:12:08,619 --> 01:12:10,720 And if anybody wants to say or accuse me 1380 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,340 of being retroactive or whatever, fine. 1381 01:12:13,340 --> 01:12:16,420 I've got as much right to ask a question as I agree. 1382 01:12:16,420 --> 01:12:17,260 I never said- 1383 01:12:17,260 --> 01:12:21,340 And then the other thing I see here, 1384 01:12:21,340 --> 01:12:25,859 I mean, the fact that we don't have an ordinance 1385 01:12:25,859 --> 01:12:28,500 for a change of use, I understand it. 1386 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:29,300 A bylaw? 1387 01:12:29,300 --> 01:12:30,380 Well, you don't have the bylaw, 1388 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:33,630 so that ends it right there. 1389 01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:35,729 I do see a change of use there. 1390 01:12:35,729 --> 01:12:39,609 I was not aware they were paying taxes. 1391 01:12:39,609 --> 01:12:42,649 And I think this was a question that had to get answered 1392 01:12:42,649 --> 01:12:44,569 that a lot of people may not realize. 1393 01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:46,710 I didn't realize it myself. 1394 01:12:46,710 --> 01:12:50,050 Because one of the biggest things I heard when I ran, 1395 01:12:50,050 --> 01:12:51,890 the taxes in this town. 1396 01:12:51,890 --> 01:12:56,649 But I just wanna make sure that the burden is shared 1397 01:12:56,649 --> 01:12:57,789 as much as it can. 1398 01:12:57,789 --> 01:12:58,630 Mm-hmm. 1399 01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:59,699 And I think we went to a lot of other places, and I think- 1400 01:12:59,699 --> 01:13:01,659 And I think we went to a lot of other discussion here 1401 01:13:01,659 --> 01:13:03,720 that didn't need to be. 1402 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,640 But like I said, this was something that concerned me. 1403 01:13:09,529 --> 01:13:11,989 People can read, people can read any of my actions 1404 01:13:11,989 --> 01:13:13,210 or statements, whatever they want. 1405 01:13:13,210 --> 01:13:15,189 No, no, Doug, I don't think that was, 1406 01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:19,789 I don't think that was, I think the way I interpreted 1407 01:13:19,789 --> 01:13:22,430 what Kurt said is, in general, I mean, 1408 01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:25,350 we've got people talking all over the place. 1409 01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:27,369 Not you, not you, Doug. 1410 01:13:27,369 --> 01:13:29,670 People around town are just pushing against, 1411 01:13:29,670 --> 01:13:31,430 pushing against anything- 1412 01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:33,270 I bet you could pull the gun right now, 1413 01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:35,829 and the same people that were against that sign-up problem 1414 01:13:35,829 --> 01:13:37,770 are the same people that are against the church right now. 1415 01:13:37,770 --> 01:13:39,329 Because they don't understand. 1416 01:13:39,329 --> 01:13:40,850 Let's ask the questions- 1417 01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:41,689 And I appreciate that. 1418 01:13:41,689 --> 01:13:43,010 Instead of saying you're a bunch of troublemakers. 1419 01:13:43,010 --> 01:13:43,850 And that I- 1420 01:13:43,850 --> 01:13:46,449 I have to, it's a sweat, and I feel, 1421 01:13:46,449 --> 01:13:48,289 I have to represent both sides. 1422 01:13:48,289 --> 01:13:49,130 Yes, you do. 1423 01:13:49,130 --> 01:13:53,689 This person has accused of the inflammatory letters. 1424 01:13:53,689 --> 01:13:56,229 I may totally disagree with him, 1425 01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:58,449 but I'd also have to support him 1426 01:13:58,449 --> 01:13:59,890 and bring forth whatever he said. 1427 01:13:59,890 --> 01:14:00,930 Same with anybody else. 1428 01:14:00,930 --> 01:14:03,270 Like I said, this had nothing to do with him. 1429 01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:04,670 I'm using it as an example. 1430 01:14:04,670 --> 01:14:05,510 I understand. 1431 01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:07,609 I have to represent everybody. 1432 01:14:07,609 --> 01:14:09,350 Whether I like them, whether I don't like them, 1433 01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:11,229 whether I disagree with them. 1434 01:14:11,229 --> 01:14:13,029 And I wanted that to come out, 1435 01:14:13,029 --> 01:14:17,449 and now I'm satisfied that they are paying taxes. 1436 01:14:17,449 --> 01:14:22,449 That, and also that answered the question about the use. 1437 01:14:23,630 --> 01:14:25,710 There are longtime residents of this town 1438 01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:28,130 that have lived here for years that don't pay taxes. 1439 01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:29,649 Well, one thing about the tax- 1440 01:14:29,649 --> 01:14:30,489 What does that have to do with it? 1441 01:14:30,489 --> 01:14:31,310 It's not right. 1442 01:14:31,310 --> 01:14:34,409 If somebody's not paying taxes, it doesn't matter, right? 1443 01:14:34,409 --> 01:14:37,689 One thing about the question about taxes, 1444 01:14:37,689 --> 01:14:40,270 it's public knowledge if someone's paying taxes. 1445 01:14:40,270 --> 01:14:43,210 You can come right down, and you can come say, 1446 01:14:43,210 --> 01:14:47,250 we got a report that says that people aren't paying taxes, 1447 01:14:47,250 --> 01:14:49,090 and we saw who it was. 1448 01:14:49,090 --> 01:14:51,890 You can find out who's paying taxes, 1449 01:14:51,890 --> 01:14:53,590 and you just come down and ask them. 1450 01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:56,430 I can say, hey, is Jim paying taxes? 1451 01:14:56,430 --> 01:14:57,270 Yup, he's paying taxes. 1452 01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:58,109 In the back seat. 1453 01:14:58,109 --> 01:14:58,930 Yup, yup. 1454 01:14:59,649 --> 01:15:01,649 Now, who's not paying taxes? 1455 01:15:01,649 --> 01:15:02,590 They just get it every year, 1456 01:15:02,590 --> 01:15:04,689 that big guess is part of the whole book. 1457 01:15:04,689 --> 01:15:07,189 What did this say here? 1458 01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:12,189 It kept mentioning about the tax-exempt status of the 501. 1459 01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:15,670 So what is somebody gonna think if they- 1460 01:15:15,670 --> 01:15:19,229 Oh, sure, yeah, because that 501 number 1461 01:15:19,229 --> 01:15:20,409 keeps getting thrown around. 1462 01:15:20,409 --> 01:15:24,239 The separation between town taxes- 1463 01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:27,300 Paying income taxes and property taxes, 1464 01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:28,699 that's what you gotta understand. 1465 01:15:28,699 --> 01:15:29,539 Even though they don't, 1466 01:15:29,539 --> 01:15:32,069 they want to support the community. 1467 01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:34,609 Now, isn't the fire department 501s? 1468 01:15:34,609 --> 01:15:35,489 I don't remember that. 1469 01:15:35,489 --> 01:15:36,329 Yes. 1470 01:15:36,329 --> 01:15:39,149 So they are, and we have to vote at town meeting 1471 01:15:39,149 --> 01:15:42,970 every five years to exempt them from taxes, 1472 01:15:42,970 --> 01:15:45,109 otherwise we're gonna charge you. 1473 01:15:45,109 --> 01:15:47,390 What type of a non-profit organization is it? 1474 01:15:47,390 --> 01:15:48,649 What's it registered as? 1475 01:15:48,649 --> 01:15:50,909 That's what I'm, I believe it's a- 1476 01:15:50,909 --> 01:15:51,750 What's your- 1477 01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:52,930 It's a college- 1478 01:15:52,930 --> 01:15:54,210 In the deed, it said- 1479 01:15:55,729 --> 01:15:57,630 It's a corporation, right? 1480 01:15:57,630 --> 01:15:58,449 It's a non-profit corporation. 1481 01:15:58,449 --> 01:15:59,289 It's a corporation. 1482 01:15:59,289 --> 01:16:00,109 Yeah, it's a corporation. 1483 01:16:00,109 --> 01:16:00,949 So is it mine? 1484 01:16:00,949 --> 01:16:01,789 We don't even know what it is. 1485 01:16:01,789 --> 01:16:02,630 We're talking about it, we don't even know what it is. 1486 01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:03,449 But it's a private. 1487 01:16:03,449 --> 01:16:04,289 I knew what I was gonna say. 1488 01:16:04,289 --> 01:16:05,130 I knew what I was gonna say. 1489 01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:05,949 A law. 1490 01:16:05,949 --> 01:16:06,789 A law. 1491 01:16:06,789 --> 01:16:07,630 It's registered. 1492 01:16:07,630 --> 01:16:08,449 It's registered. 1493 01:16:08,449 --> 01:16:09,289 It's registered. 1494 01:16:09,289 --> 01:16:10,130 It's registered. 1495 01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:13,270 It's under a corporation, UNC Foundation, 1496 01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:16,770 which is located in Sacramento, California. 1497 01:16:16,770 --> 01:16:17,609 I was in- 1498 01:16:17,609 --> 01:16:21,170 The person that sort of like found the problem 1499 01:16:21,170 --> 01:16:24,489 is somebody named Dr. Y. King-Loo. 1500 01:16:24,489 --> 01:16:25,329 I was very- 1501 01:16:25,329 --> 01:16:28,029 And it is registered in California, and- 1502 01:16:28,029 --> 01:16:28,050 Yeah. 1503 01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:30,270 And Vermont. 1504 01:16:30,270 --> 01:16:33,409 What does N-T-E-E- 1505 01:16:33,409 --> 01:16:34,250 Huh? 1506 01:16:34,250 --> 01:16:37,529 What does N-T-E-E-Tax code? 1507 01:16:37,529 --> 01:16:38,369 What's it for? 1508 01:16:38,369 --> 01:16:39,630 What's- 1509 01:16:39,630 --> 01:16:40,869 N-E-T-T? 1510 01:16:40,869 --> 01:16:42,710 Right, it has to have a non-profit, 1511 01:16:42,710 --> 01:16:47,130 it has to have an IRS classification code. 1512 01:16:47,130 --> 01:16:48,149 Admissions and programs. 1513 01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:48,989 Right. 1514 01:16:48,989 --> 01:16:50,470 Oh, E-I-N? 1515 01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:51,310 E-I-N. 1516 01:16:51,310 --> 01:16:52,590 It's one for the future, E-I-N. 1517 01:16:52,590 --> 01:16:54,430 That's your employer. 1518 01:16:54,430 --> 01:16:56,949 That just identifies the organization. 1519 01:16:56,949 --> 01:16:57,789 Thank you. 1520 01:16:57,789 --> 01:17:00,090 You can add them to service to the college, so. 1521 01:17:00,090 --> 01:17:00,930 And I can- 1522 01:17:00,930 --> 01:17:01,770 Oh, yeah. 1523 01:17:01,770 --> 01:17:02,590 Thank you. 1524 01:17:02,590 --> 01:17:03,430 No, I didn't even know that. 1525 01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:04,689 I'll just say that it's a neuroscience- 1526 01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:07,250 I think you have a great, that's what I'm saying. 1527 01:17:07,250 --> 01:17:10,510 I will, I'll be in, but I don't know what it is. 1528 01:17:10,510 --> 01:17:14,649 I'm going to be just three or more. 1529 01:17:14,649 --> 01:17:17,689 I'll always be in my hands, and I don't think for a minute. 1530 01:17:17,689 --> 01:17:18,529 Yeah, we can. 1531 01:17:18,529 --> 01:17:19,810 I have, it's totally urgent. 1532 01:17:19,810 --> 01:17:20,649 Yeah, it is. 1533 01:17:20,649 --> 01:17:22,550 I have heard. 1534 01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:23,710 It's totally urgent. 1535 01:17:23,710 --> 01:17:24,789 I just need to get a ratio. 1536 01:17:24,789 --> 01:17:25,789 I just need to get a ratio. 1537 01:17:25,789 --> 01:17:26,789 I just need to get a ratio. 1538 01:17:26,789 --> 01:17:27,789 I think we've got to get a ratio. 1539 01:17:27,789 --> 01:17:28,789 Are we done? 1540 01:17:28,789 --> 01:17:29,789 Are we done with this subject now? 1541 01:17:29,789 --> 01:17:30,789 Are we done? 1542 01:17:30,789 --> 01:17:31,789 Oh. 1543 01:17:31,789 --> 01:17:32,789 I can't use the camera. 1544 01:17:32,789 --> 01:17:33,789 I can't use the camera. 1545 01:17:33,789 --> 01:17:34,789 The next question is all. 1546 01:17:34,789 --> 01:17:35,789 Are we done with the subject? 1547 01:17:35,789 --> 01:17:36,789 I think we're finished. 1548 01:17:36,789 --> 01:17:37,789 I'll start with no question and then we'll move on to break things. 1549 01:17:37,789 --> 01:17:38,789 Did it break? 1550 01:17:38,789 --> 01:17:39,789 Okay. 1551 01:17:39,789 --> 01:17:40,789 No. 1552 01:17:40,789 --> 01:17:41,789 I think that was old business or was it new business? 1553 01:17:41,789 --> 01:17:42,789 That was old business. 1554 01:17:42,789 --> 01:17:43,789 We're done with old business. 1555 01:17:43,789 --> 01:17:44,789 Just the one. 1556 01:17:44,789 --> 01:17:45,789 New business. 1557 01:17:45,789 --> 01:17:46,949 Oh, I don't know if I should even bring it up. 1558 01:17:46,949 --> 01:17:47,949 Go ahead. 1559 01:17:47,949 --> 01:17:48,949 It's the churches. 1560 01:17:48,949 --> 01:17:49,949 It's the churches. 1561 01:17:49,949 --> 01:17:50,949 It's the churches. 1562 01:17:50,949 --> 01:17:51,949 It's the churches. 1563 01:17:51,949 --> 01:17:52,949 It's the churches. 1564 01:17:52,949 --> 01:17:53,949 It's the churches. 1565 01:17:53,949 --> 01:17:55,470 Oh, I don't know if I should even bring it up. 1566 01:17:55,470 --> 01:17:55,869 Go ahead. 1567 01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:57,270 It's the church address. 1568 01:17:57,449 --> 01:17:58,550 You bring it up and I bring it up. 1569 01:17:58,770 --> 01:17:59,510 All right, listen. 1570 01:18:01,180 --> 01:18:06,199 We asked a while back, a couple weeks ago, to have all boards meet. 1571 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:11,220 To have these boards in our town to answer back. 1572 01:18:11,319 --> 01:18:12,479 We appoint these people. 1573 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,359 We appoint the plan board. 1574 01:18:14,500 --> 01:18:16,319 We appoint the zoning board. 1575 01:18:16,319 --> 01:18:18,479 We appoint a lot of these people. 1576 01:18:18,859 --> 01:18:23,279 And we don't know what's going on unless we go to meetings, which is hard to do. 1577 01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:27,260 It's like coming to these meetings all the time. 1578 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,220 You don't come to all these meetings. 1579 01:18:29,420 --> 01:18:30,939 I don't go to your board all the time. 1580 01:18:31,380 --> 01:18:31,840 It's hard. 1581 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:33,539 It's volunteer. 1582 01:18:35,079 --> 01:18:36,539 That being said, it's volunteer. 1583 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:37,220 That's awesome. 1584 01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:39,039 I'd love to see you for a hat and a ring. 1585 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,239 But we ask this, and it never gets done. 1586 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:43,739 It never happens. 1587 01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:49,819 And I've asked this many times after the school, and we can't force anybody. 1588 01:18:49,819 --> 01:18:53,619 But we're asking the board to at least see chairs. 1589 01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:58,579 We're asking the chair of each board to come and talk at, you know, all boards' meetings. 1590 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,199 Say, hey, here's what we hear. 1591 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,119 Because we do hear things. 1592 01:19:04,500 --> 01:19:06,619 That's exactly what Doug said. 1593 01:19:06,699 --> 01:19:09,340 You've got an email that comes in from one person. 1594 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:19,520 And the email comes in, you know, saying one thing and saying another thing that has no facts, no bearing about whether or not we call each other names. 1595 01:19:19,579 --> 01:19:20,340 It's ridiculous. 1596 01:19:21,119 --> 01:19:21,399 Right? 1597 01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:24,100 So we can't make a decision. 1598 01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:25,640 We can't make a decision of who's right or wrong. 1599 01:19:26,140 --> 01:19:28,079 That's why we have executive sessions. 1600 01:19:28,340 --> 01:19:30,859 We have to bring people in if there's a problem. 1601 01:19:32,060 --> 01:19:38,739 But I want to see us have an all-board meeting and at least have the chairs come and talk and see how things are. 1602 01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:39,260 Okay? 1603 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:40,760 That first thing. 1604 01:19:41,899 --> 01:19:50,239 There is, just like Doug said, there's certain town residents complaining on one side of an issue. 1605 01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:54,640 And there's also other town residents complaining on the other side. 1606 01:19:54,659 --> 01:20:00,779 So this is, it's not a secret what's going on. 1607 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,060 There's this animosity in this town. 1608 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:04,840 I got big words once in a while. 1609 01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:06,180 I'm impressed. 1610 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,119 Yeah, well, I looked it up before. 1611 01:20:08,699 --> 01:20:10,340 No, I didn't stop it. 1612 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:23,109 But when we hear this stuff, and you're right, when we hear this crap and other town people hear this, then it gets down in the other town and they hear it. 1613 01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:24,430 It's embarrassing. 1614 01:20:24,430 --> 01:20:24,550 It's embarrassing. 1615 01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:25,050 It's embarrassing. 1616 01:20:25,050 --> 01:20:25,810 It's ridiculous. 1617 01:20:25,810 --> 01:20:29,729 Look, you hear what's going on up in Stanford. 1618 01:20:29,729 --> 01:20:31,449 We've got to stop this. 1619 01:20:31,449 --> 01:20:40,079 So if we had these board meetings, I wouldn't tell anybody what to do, but I'd like to ask them, can you be a little bit more professional? 1620 01:20:40,079 --> 01:20:47,279 It gets to the point where exactly I've watched the board meetings, the planning board meetings, and I've seen the chaos. 1621 01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:49,039 And I don't like it. 1622 01:20:49,039 --> 01:20:52,720 If I was running it, I wouldn't like it. 1623 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,899 So I can, I don't know who's the chair. 1624 01:20:55,899 --> 01:20:57,659 You're the chair? 1625 01:20:57,659 --> 01:20:58,460 I was planning commissioner. 1626 01:20:58,460 --> 01:21:02,039 You know, it would bother me if people were just going crazy. 1627 01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:08,659 I've seen this board go a little nuts sometimes and get out of hand, and Nancy puts us back where we belong. 1628 01:21:08,659 --> 01:21:11,079 We put some policies and procedures in place. 1629 01:21:11,079 --> 01:21:12,420 There is a lot of emotions. 1630 01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:15,520 I get it, I think Nancy was there. 1631 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:19,720 So I would hope that we can at least have this. 1632 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:20,319 I will. 1633 01:21:20,319 --> 01:21:21,380 I'll get out of this. 1634 01:21:21,380 --> 01:21:22,960 Try it, at least, okay? 1635 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,100 Second thing is, I want to, this has just been a board meeting. 1636 01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:36,659 If there is an issue of an appointed person, no matter who it is, it's constant, all the time. 1637 01:21:36,659 --> 01:21:43,819 They're coming in drunk, or they're yelling and screaming, or they're threatening, or they're starting crap. 1638 01:21:43,819 --> 01:21:48,180 And I'm not talking about having an opinion or being able to ask questions. 1639 01:21:48,180 --> 01:21:51,000 I'm talking about being overboard. 1640 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:51,960 And we see it. 1641 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,300 I mean, Jen videoed it. 1642 01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:55,460 You see it. 1643 01:21:55,460 --> 01:21:56,840 Okay. 1644 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:07,460 We need, as a board, to bring these other board members in that we appointed, we appointed them, and talk to them, and tell them, this needs to stop. 1645 01:22:07,460 --> 01:22:09,220 And it doesn't stop. 1646 01:22:09,220 --> 01:22:17,819 Just like the President of the United States gets his own cabinet, and says, sorry, we no longer need you, and we're going to bring someone else in. 1647 01:22:17,819 --> 01:22:23,630 And I know that sounds awful, and it does, because this is a small town, we shouldn't have to do that. 1648 01:22:23,630 --> 01:22:27,010 People volunteer in this town, and we should be proud that they are. 1649 01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:37,449 But when I hear this stuff going on, and I'm not taking sides, but if someone says that Jim's causing trouble, the only way I can find out is go ask Jim. 1650 01:22:37,449 --> 01:22:40,539 Not what's said on the streets. 1651 01:22:40,539 --> 01:22:42,539 I got to go ask Jim. 1652 01:22:42,539 --> 01:22:46,539 So that's what we need to start doing as a board, is we need to start tightening this up. 1653 01:22:46,539 --> 01:22:47,539 Because it is. 1654 01:22:47,539 --> 01:22:48,640 It's an embarrassment. 1655 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:53,640 You know, and Pete, I don't know how you run it sometimes, because that's ludicrous. 1656 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,640 Well, I've only, I think we've only had, that I've been there. 1657 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:56,640 Well, I think we've only had, that I've been there. 1658 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:57,640 Well, I think we've only had, that I've been there. 1659 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,640 Maybe four meetings, three meetings. 1660 01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:12,989 But I think there was the open town meeting for part of the bylaw that got blown way out of proportion, and it was something that should have never happened. 1661 01:23:12,989 --> 01:23:22,439 It was kind of one of those things where I just let that go, because it needed to be seen, what was going to happen. 1662 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:27,439 But moving forward, what we did was we put in some things. 1663 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:34,439 One of the actual meetings that we will hold tight and won't allow. 1664 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:41,439 I think we got, you know, between me and Jim, I mean, I wasn't here last meeting because I was out of town, but I heard it was fine. 1665 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,439 And I think moving forward, we're in a good place. 1666 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,439 I don't, everybody knows that I don't usually like to go off topic too much. 1667 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,439 We're there for a reason. 1668 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,439 In, out, you know, drag it on any more than we have to. 1669 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,439 And I think that's the best case scenario. 1670 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,439 And that's what should happen pretty much on every board. 1671 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,439 So I think everything, you know, the first couple meetings were a little tough. 1672 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,439 But I think we're going in the right direction. 1673 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:12,439 So why would you volunteer for something that's not going to move forward and get something done? 1674 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,439 It's all about doing things right for the people of town and kind of putting the... 1675 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:24,630 Another point of reference I'm just saying is, I hear, you know, you were saying something about there's rumors of stuff going on. 1676 01:24:24,630 --> 01:24:26,630 Did you hear about the militia up in the woods? 1677 01:24:26,630 --> 01:24:27,630 Yeah. 1678 01:24:27,630 --> 01:24:28,630 Remember that? 1679 01:24:28,630 --> 01:24:29,630 Oh, yeah. 1680 01:24:29,630 --> 01:24:30,630 I don't know. 1681 01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:32,630 You know when the last time I've been in my camp? 1682 01:24:32,630 --> 01:24:35,630 Probably, oh, well, back in November when I went deer hunting. 1683 01:24:35,630 --> 01:24:36,630 That's it. 1684 01:24:36,630 --> 01:24:38,630 Did you hear about that militia up there? 1685 01:24:38,630 --> 01:24:43,630 Because they actually, they actually had this all over, all over New England. 1686 01:24:43,630 --> 01:24:44,630 Really? 1687 01:24:44,630 --> 01:24:46,630 That there's this militia. 1688 01:24:46,630 --> 01:24:51,630 I've had email people send me and say, you're being watched by the FBI. 1689 01:24:51,630 --> 01:24:54,630 Emails from people in this town that I'm watching. 1690 01:24:54,630 --> 01:24:56,630 Because that's how rumors get started. 1691 01:24:56,630 --> 01:24:57,630 Mm-hmm. 1692 01:24:57,630 --> 01:24:58,630 Come on home. 1693 01:24:58,630 --> 01:24:59,630 Don't sign a bumper sticker. 1694 01:24:59,630 --> 01:25:00,920 Okay. 1695 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:01,920 It's not a bumper sticker. 1696 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:02,920 It says Risky Ranch Militia. 1697 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:03,920 I know. 1698 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:04,920 Right? 1699 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,920 But it's a four-wheeler group. 1700 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:06,920 I know. 1701 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,920 Is there any chance? 1702 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:08,920 Here's the way to do it. 1703 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,920 Ask the horse. 1704 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,920 You'll get the answers. 1705 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:11,920 I will tell you guys this word right here. 1706 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,920 Wait. 1707 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:13,920 Guys. 1708 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:14,920 The planning commission. 1709 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,920 I do believe, I do believe that you've got some really good quality people that I work with. 1710 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:16,920 I know. 1711 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,920 I know. 1712 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:18,920 I know. 1713 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:19,920 I know. 1714 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:20,920 I know. 1715 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:21,920 I know. 1716 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,920 I know. 1717 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,920 I know. 1718 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:24,920 I know. 1719 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:25,920 I know. 1720 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:26,920 And I worked with on the planning commission. 1721 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:27,920 That's for sure. 1722 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:28,920 That's for sure. 1723 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:29,920 Not you. 1724 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,680 No, I mean, and I will lament Deb for doing her due diligence on the AO side of it. 1725 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,680 And her and I worked together. 1726 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:33,680 It was a treat. 1727 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:34,680 But it's just a non-stop, non-stop just having to prove to somebody that, that's not the 1728 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:35,680 way it is. 1729 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,680 I don't believe it does. 1730 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:37,680 So. 1731 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:38,680 Anyways. 1732 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,100 So. 1733 01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:41,100 Back to the Aldrich. 1734 01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:42,100 Yes. 1735 01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:43,260 So the Aldrich is a little bit of a landowner. 1736 01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:44,260 Yeah. 1737 01:25:44,260 --> 01:25:45,260 They're not playing with the triste. 1738 01:25:45,260 --> 01:25:46,289 So it's not a landowner. 1739 01:25:46,289 --> 01:25:47,289 Well, and so it was like how the Aldrich is in the past. 1740 01:25:47,289 --> 01:25:48,289 Now, you know. 1741 01:25:48,289 --> 01:25:49,289 I think that. 1742 01:25:49,289 --> 01:25:50,289 Some of these things are just that. 1743 01:25:50,289 --> 01:25:51,289 I. 1744 01:25:51,289 --> 01:25:59,930 so anyways so back to the all boards i should set something up there and try to do that 1745 01:26:11,130 --> 01:26:19,560 i talked to the school board chair and yes they want to meet with us and we should pick some dates 1746 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:26,039 and i will get back to her and see what works for them so what dates i'm thinking june my time 1747 01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:38,090 okay what nights do you care not tuesday nights not monday nights not thursday nights 1748 01:26:42,090 --> 01:26:48,649 probably the first one second second monday where is that second monday so 1749 01:26:50,739 --> 01:26:55,220 well this this is for the school board and the so like oh yeah 1750 01:27:01,859 --> 01:27:05,060 they were meeting on tuesday i don't know when they're meeting now this 1751 01:27:06,229 --> 01:27:10,710 this time it was a thursday you can either do it every other thursday and do that or you can 1752 01:27:10,710 --> 01:27:15,029 do whatever their meetings are you've been having them on different nights i know they're just 1753 01:27:15,029 --> 01:27:18,869 trying to get a budget through but i don't know what they're going to sell on i think they were 1754 01:27:18,869 --> 01:27:20,630 tuesdays so we don't care 1755 01:27:20,710 --> 01:27:28,630 what night then no all right no fridays yeah no friday okay it's not at six o'clock on a friday 1756 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:48,569 so all boards meeting sometime in june too and that would be all our boards any board 1757 01:27:49,609 --> 01:27:57,210 the word did the select no just any board at the select board has appointed so if they're voted on 1758 01:27:57,369 --> 01:28:02,250 there's nothing we can say they're voted on you know i mean justice and the peace they're voted 1759 01:28:02,250 --> 01:28:07,609 on we can't talk about it but if we appoint someone planning commission zoning commission 1760 01:28:08,869 --> 01:28:13,430 conservation commission we appoint these people there are people we should be talking to but 1761 01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:18,869 justice of the peace they should come anyway to the all board keep the peace keep the peace 1762 01:28:19,670 --> 01:28:26,550 and to hear about open meeting law and what's new and sure that's fine if you want to send the 1763 01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:27,189 invitations 1764 01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:32,869 cemetery i know they're elected libraries elected but they should come we're not making any decisions 1765 01:28:32,869 --> 01:28:38,229 all we're doing is getting information right you know bob or sheila should show up for emergency 1766 01:28:38,229 --> 01:28:46,710 management yeah and bob or i should show up for yeah just to give me fiber all we want this isn't 1767 01:28:46,710 --> 01:28:51,430 like a meeting to make any decisions ruby is holding on or anything like that it's just an 1768 01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:57,270 informational meeting to say hey how's how's things going what's going on you know where can we move 1769 01:28:57,909 --> 01:29:05,260 and that can go from there well what was the open meeting law you know just recently the 1770 01:29:05,260 --> 01:29:11,180 conservation commission i didn't even know existing and then all of a sudden people 1771 01:29:11,180 --> 01:29:17,819 joined and didn't and then resigned i'm like geez that's more action i see in 10 years with that 1772 01:29:17,819 --> 01:29:22,939 you know i might fall i encourage it's revival well most of the things are 1773 01:29:24,819 --> 01:29:27,020 the other half has been approved 1774 01:29:27,819 --> 01:29:46,420 But even distributing to our board, our all boards appointed and elected, they should know the conflict of interest. They're bound by that too. Library, cemetery. Okay. I won't do that. Any other new business? 1775 01:29:46,420 --> 01:30:09,380 Lori. The state of Vermont is completely changing their entire software for voting in election. So Casey and I attended our first mandatory four-hour election training the other day. There won't be many more to come. 1776 01:30:09,380 --> 01:30:14,180 You can vote from home now. Just kidding. 1777 01:30:14,180 --> 01:30:17,180 No, I did mention to Lori. 1778 01:30:17,180 --> 01:30:18,180 I did mention to Lori. 1779 01:30:18,180 --> 01:30:19,180 Just kidding. 1780 01:30:19,180 --> 01:30:20,180 Sorry, too bad. 1781 01:30:20,180 --> 01:30:21,180 Just kidding. 1782 01:30:21,180 --> 01:30:44,180 Her and Casey have to attend these mandatory online. We used to have to go someplace. So if we did, we would close the office. I said, Lori, if you have to attend these mandatory training, close the office, put a sign up, training in session. She can't be interrupted and miss this stuff because it's mandatory. 1783 01:30:44,180 --> 01:30:48,180 I have to sign up for the ARPA training three times because I missed the first two. 1784 01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:49,180 Yeah. 1785 01:30:49,180 --> 01:30:50,180 I can't see many things going on. 1786 01:30:50,180 --> 01:30:57,180 Otherwise, before these webinars and computer trainings, you had to go. The office was closed. 1787 01:30:57,180 --> 01:30:58,180 We'd go. 1788 01:30:58,180 --> 01:30:59,180 Close it, do it. 1789 01:30:59,180 --> 01:31:00,180 Yeah. 1790 01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:06,979 Any other new business? What's the new election stuff? 1791 01:31:06,979 --> 01:31:15,359 I think the software is just going to be much more powerful and easier to use from what I see. It won't be so cumbersome. 1792 01:31:15,359 --> 01:31:17,359 For the checklist and all that? 1793 01:31:17,359 --> 01:31:18,359 For the checklist. 1794 01:31:18,359 --> 01:31:19,359 Yeah. 1795 01:31:19,359 --> 01:31:29,680 We're going to be working with other towns in Vermont so that we will have access to voters, not just in Stanford, but in transferring when people move from one town to the next. 1796 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:30,680 Yeah. 1797 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,680 So ultimately, it will be good. It's just another learning curve. 1798 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:35,680 Cool. 1799 01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,989 Yep. 1800 01:31:37,989 --> 01:31:38,989 Any other new business? 1801 01:31:38,989 --> 01:31:51,100 If I can go ahead and answer. If we, if any commission is coming up, we're going to have our first session on solar. 1802 01:31:51,100 --> 01:32:11,130 We're going to have our first session on solar array that we are, we're just working on it. We're in talks with a designer right now. We've actually secured land if we need it. And we're talking about doing a large solar array for the entire town. 1803 01:32:11,130 --> 01:32:15,189 Is this a public one or? 1804 01:32:15,189 --> 01:32:16,189 Yes. 1805 01:32:16,189 --> 01:32:17,189 How does that work? 1806 01:32:17,189 --> 01:32:21,189 So at some point, we're going to come to the board and have a discussion. 1807 01:32:21,189 --> 01:32:33,189 And how, when I'm, when I'm trying to do this, it hasn't been done in Vermont yet, but there's some laws that have been changed in the last couple of years that may or may not allow us to do this. 1808 01:32:33,189 --> 01:32:37,739 They believe it will, we will be able to do this. 1809 01:32:37,739 --> 01:32:45,220 But we purchase or we own this field or this array. 1810 01:32:45,220 --> 01:32:49,409 And we get all the benefits from it. 1811 01:32:49,409 --> 01:32:51,569 And our community gets all the benefits from it. 1812 01:32:51,569 --> 01:32:52,659 That's where we're shooting for it. 1813 01:32:52,659 --> 01:33:01,819 How it's going to work, I don't know yet, but it's pretty exciting how things are looking so far. 1814 01:33:01,819 --> 01:33:08,140 So is this in the planning commission bylaws or probably not because it's electric? 1815 01:33:08,140 --> 01:33:14,140 Is it allowed in the planning, in our zoning bylaws or? 1816 01:33:14,140 --> 01:33:20,340 We have a section for solar and telecommunication. 1817 01:33:20,340 --> 01:33:21,340 I don't know where you're getting it. 1818 01:33:21,340 --> 01:33:22,340 I don't know where you're getting it. 1819 01:33:22,340 --> 01:33:23,340 I don't think it's there with the bylaws. 1820 01:33:23,340 --> 01:33:24,340 No. 1821 01:33:24,340 --> 01:33:25,340 Is it allowed? 1822 01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:26,340 It's a public utility. 1823 01:33:26,340 --> 01:33:27,340 It's a public utility. 1824 01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:28,340 Yeah, so I don't think you have to abide by any of our zoning bylaws. 1825 01:33:28,340 --> 01:33:29,340 No, it's outside of them. 1826 01:33:29,340 --> 01:33:30,340 Okay. 1827 01:33:30,340 --> 01:33:31,340 Oh, it's, oh, I know what you're saying. 1828 01:33:31,340 --> 01:33:32,340 Yeah. 1829 01:33:32,340 --> 01:33:33,340 So, no, it's actually in our town, our town plan. 1830 01:33:33,340 --> 01:33:34,340 The town plan, yeah. 1831 01:33:34,340 --> 01:33:35,340 You know, so. 1832 01:33:35,340 --> 01:33:36,340 But the only thing that we could do is say we don't want it here or on the school property. 1833 01:33:36,340 --> 01:33:37,340 And I don't know where you're going to put it. 1834 01:33:37,340 --> 01:33:38,340 I don't know where you're going to put it. 1835 01:33:38,340 --> 01:33:39,340 I don't know where you're going to put it. 1836 01:33:39,340 --> 01:33:40,340 I don't know where you're going to put it. 1837 01:33:40,340 --> 01:33:41,340 I don't know where you're going to put it. 1838 01:33:52,529 --> 01:33:53,529 But is there any. 1839 01:33:53,529 --> 01:33:54,529 He said we would purchase a piece of land. 1840 01:33:54,529 --> 01:33:55,529 Yeah, yeah. 1841 01:33:55,529 --> 01:33:56,529 No, no, no. 1842 01:33:56,529 --> 01:33:57,529 We would purchase the. 1843 01:33:57,529 --> 01:33:58,529 We're not going to. 1844 01:33:58,529 --> 01:33:59,529 So far, the way it is right now, the piece of property that I have would be a lease. 1845 01:33:59,529 --> 01:34:00,529 So we would lease it. 1846 01:34:00,529 --> 01:34:01,529 Okay. 1847 01:34:01,529 --> 01:34:02,529 The. 1848 01:34:02,529 --> 01:34:03,529 Oh, okay. 1849 01:34:03,529 --> 01:34:04,529 The group. 1850 01:34:04,529 --> 01:34:05,529 Okay. 1851 01:34:05,529 --> 01:34:06,529 Us would lease it. 1852 01:34:06,529 --> 01:34:07,529 Right? 1853 01:34:07,529 --> 01:34:08,529 And so, and then, and all the benefits from it comes to the town. 1854 01:34:08,529 --> 01:34:09,529 How it gets distributed from there is beyond me at this point. 1855 01:34:09,529 --> 01:34:10,529 Okay. 1856 01:34:10,529 --> 01:34:11,529 Yeah. 1857 01:34:11,529 --> 01:34:12,529 Okay. 1858 01:34:12,529 --> 01:34:13,939 Okay. 1859 01:34:13,939 --> 01:34:14,939 Okay. 1860 01:34:14,939 --> 01:34:15,939 Okay. 1861 01:34:15,939 --> 01:34:16,939 Okay. 1862 01:34:16,939 --> 01:34:17,939 Okay. 1863 01:34:17,939 --> 01:34:18,939 Okay. 1864 01:34:18,939 --> 01:34:19,939 Okay. 1865 01:34:19,939 --> 01:34:20,939 Okay. 1866 01:34:20,939 --> 01:34:21,939 Okay. 1867 01:34:21,939 --> 01:34:22,939 Okay. 1868 01:34:22,939 --> 01:34:23,939 Okay. 1869 01:34:23,939 --> 01:34:24,939 Okay. 1870 01:34:24,939 --> 01:34:26,199 Okay. 1871 01:34:26,199 --> 01:34:27,199 Okay. 1872 01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:28,199 So $2500. 1873 01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:29,199 Oh yeah. 1874 01:34:29,199 --> 01:34:30,199 And so even the lease is cost. 1875 01:34:30,199 --> 01:34:31,199 Now, my mistake. 1876 01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:32,199 I neon and the rent, the lease. 1877 01:34:32,199 --> 01:34:33,199 The. 1878 01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:34,199 Well, no, but it does cost. 1879 01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:35,199 Okay. 1880 01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:36,199 But you would work your way back. 1881 01:34:36,199 --> 01:34:37,199 Okay. 1882 01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:38,199 So to rent, you would deal, you could help go to a05. 1883 01:34:38,199 --> 01:34:39,199 Okay. 1884 01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:40,199 Okay. 1885 01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:41,199 Okay. 1886 01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:42,199 So that. 1887 01:34:42,199 --> 01:34:43,199 You know, it's 90,000 just for the flat. 1888 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:44,260 Yeah. 1889 01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:45,260 Okay. 1890 01:34:45,260 --> 01:34:46,390 Thank you. 1891 01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:47,390 Thank you. 1892 01:34:47,390 --> 01:34:48,390 Okay. 1893 01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:50,189 Thank you. 1894 01:34:50,189 --> 01:34:51,189 That's what it costs. 1895 01:34:51,189 --> 01:34:52,189 Okay. 1896 01:34:52,189 --> 01:34:53,189 So double. 1897 01:34:53,189 --> 01:34:54,189 Yup. 1898 01:34:54,189 --> 01:34:59,770 where it's going to be situated is it going to be on the main highway view of 1899 01:34:59,770 --> 01:35:03,909 everything or is it going to be up in the woods somewhere and open clear all 1900 01:35:03,909 --> 01:35:11,770 that will come but yeah I mean the size of the array that we would need you're 1901 01:35:11,770 --> 01:35:19,810 going to see it right it's not going to be on the map I can say that but and I don't want to mention names or 1902 01:35:19,810 --> 01:35:27,149 where areas or anything right now because I can imagine what would go from 1903 01:35:27,149 --> 01:35:31,529 that so I'm just saying we're in the beginning stages I haven't even 1904 01:35:31,529 --> 01:35:37,130 presented well the Planning Commission knows about what I've been working on 1905 01:35:37,130 --> 01:35:44,579 bits and pieces here and there so they'll get a little bit more next week when we have our next meeting 1906 01:35:44,579 --> 01:35:50,640 and then we'll go from there probably back into town and then we'll have the designer the developer and 1907 01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:52,119 everybody at work 1908 01:35:52,119 --> 01:35:55,119 who wants to come in for a public hearing 1909 01:35:55,119 --> 01:36:04,100 yeah well the beginning stages right but trying to figure out a way of at some point I 1910 01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:10,000 thought when we were when I was looking into it 8, 9, 10 years ago I don't know what it was 1911 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:16,659 the towns can't create or have a profit or something like that I don't know it was 1912 01:36:16,659 --> 01:36:21,899 I don't know how the benefits are going to go directly to the town 1913 01:36:21,899 --> 01:36:22,399 what's that 1914 01:36:22,399 --> 01:36:22,899 the benefit 1915 01:36:22,899 --> 01:36:23,399 the 1916 01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:26,399 I remember the benefits weren't going to go all the way correctly to the town 1917 01:36:26,399 --> 01:36:29,600 everything was just going to be fed back into the community 1918 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:34,600 yeah well there's there's different ways about now there's there's different ways of doing it 1919 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:41,600 so I mean I wasn't happy with the outcome of this unit down here because that's servicing a town up in 1920 01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,600 on Kennedy and Ward 1921 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,689 it doesn't even help us 1922 01:36:45,689 --> 01:36:48,689 well it just goes in the grid and you don't know where it's going 1923 01:36:48,689 --> 01:36:53,189 but the only reason why I bring it now is because it's working kind of quickly 1924 01:36:53,189 --> 01:37:00,189 because we just found out that the only place in the state of mind right now that doesn't have grid issues 1925 01:37:00,189 --> 01:37:01,189 are us 1926 01:37:01,189 --> 01:37:02,189 and I'm saying are you kidding me 1927 01:37:02,189 --> 01:37:07,189 but the three-phase system apparently is 1928 01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:10,189 because it goes north or south 1929 01:37:10,189 --> 01:37:11,189 so 1930 01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:13,189 there's a price for a grid tie 1931 01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:14,189 yeah 1932 01:37:14,189 --> 01:37:15,189 it's what 1933 01:37:15,189 --> 01:37:18,189 there's a possibility of a grid tie 1934 01:37:18,189 --> 01:37:22,350 the infrastructure is already there to feed to 1935 01:37:22,350 --> 01:37:24,350 down there 1936 01:37:24,350 --> 01:37:27,510 no north of us 1937 01:37:27,510 --> 01:37:30,510 all the all the ties north are tied up 1938 01:37:30,510 --> 01:37:34,510 so they're having a hard time getting anything of any large thing 1939 01:37:34,510 --> 01:37:39,510 they're saying right now the only place that you can get a tie is south 1940 01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:40,510 the one side 1941 01:37:40,510 --> 01:37:41,510 capacity 1942 01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:42,510 yeah 1943 01:37:42,510 --> 01:37:48,279 so anyway you know I'll bring it to you guys when I get a little bit more 1944 01:37:48,279 --> 01:37:50,279 or maybe we'll have a joint meeting or something 1945 01:37:50,279 --> 01:37:52,279 it's going to happen kind of quickly 1946 01:37:52,279 --> 01:37:53,279 you see me 1947 01:37:53,279 --> 01:37:56,439 it seems like so far 1948 01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:57,439 it's a large system 1949 01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,479 it's like a four mega system 1950 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,479 okay anything else here 1951 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,109 executive session 1952 01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:10,109 yes 1953 01:38:10,109 --> 01:38:11,109 okay 1954 01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:22,109 I make a motion to go into executive session pending or probable civil litigation or a prosecution to which the public body is or may not be a party 1955 01:38:22,109 --> 01:38:23,109 second 1956 01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:24,109 all in favor 1957 01:38:24,109 --> 01:38:25,239 aye 1958 01:38:25,239 --> 01:38:26,180 oh