1 00:00:00,590 --> 00:00:58,539 Thank you. 2 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,460 So our board members present are 3 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:02,520 Mike Dahl, Nancy Bishica, 4 00:01:02,780 --> 00:01:04,519 Joe Wright, John Dunn, 5 00:01:04,579 --> 00:01:07,040 and Richard Marr. 6 00:01:07,099 --> 00:01:09,280 Will there be any adding of items 7 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,480 or removing items from tonight's agenda? 8 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,439 I have some 9 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:15,420 agency of transportation papers 10 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:18,400 that came in after the agenda 11 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,079 as well as another access report. 12 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:28,379 Will there be any adjustments 13 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:30,579 to the agenda, such as changing 14 00:01:30,579 --> 00:01:31,620 the order of items? 15 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,019 And Jeb is recording tonight's meeting 16 00:01:36,019 --> 00:01:36,939 for his YouTube. 17 00:01:36,939 --> 00:01:41,709 Do we get any mowing bids? 18 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 And then I think we're kind of out of time here. 19 00:02:48,819 --> 00:02:50,099 Big, big. 20 00:02:50,419 --> 00:02:54,419 I can't repeat. 21 00:02:55,219 --> 00:03:04,189 There's a chair over here. 22 00:03:04,330 --> 00:03:05,610 There's one back here. 23 00:03:11,759 --> 00:03:12,500 No, thank you. 24 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:13,599 Here's one. 25 00:03:15,289 --> 00:03:16,849 I'm good. 26 00:03:19,419 --> 00:03:20,039 That one, anyway. 27 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,560 So, Peter, 28 00:03:23,800 --> 00:04:06,620 see if I can open them. 29 00:04:07,259 --> 00:04:08,500 Okay, we got a deal. 30 00:04:09,219 --> 00:04:10,620 That's a VIP sit-down. 31 00:04:11,419 --> 00:04:35,699 Nobody submitted 32 00:04:35,699 --> 00:04:36,939 a certificate of insurance. 33 00:04:42,990 --> 00:04:49,250 Well, I need to ask 34 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:50,949 about the state-taught firewood 35 00:04:50,949 --> 00:04:51,949 and landscaping. 36 00:04:53,730 --> 00:04:54,649 Replace the image 37 00:04:54,649 --> 00:04:57,069 lawn and plow. Damage topsoil 38 00:04:57,069 --> 00:04:58,129 seed and straw. 39 00:05:00,339 --> 00:05:02,379 So that means cleaning up all the 40 00:05:02,379 --> 00:05:03,399 front lawn, right? 41 00:05:04,610 --> 00:05:06,470 Yep, all the damage that 42 00:05:06,470 --> 00:05:09,110 comes aside on the front lawn. 43 00:05:10,220 --> 00:05:10,879 Spring and clear. 44 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:12,959 Yeah, it'd be cleaning all that up 45 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:13,300 and then 46 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:16,129 replace it with topsoil. 47 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:21,980 I think we put in there 48 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:24,759 to remove debris 49 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:26,019 from ditch along fence 50 00:05:26,019 --> 00:05:27,439 on Morgan and Wyman's property. 51 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,180 Is that included? 52 00:05:29,060 --> 00:05:30,600 Yeah, you can include that in there. 53 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:33,240 I don't think it's going to add much. 54 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:38,879 This one? 55 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,600 No, I was just going to look. 56 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,899 Do you know how many cuttings 57 00:05:49,899 --> 00:05:51,959 from the yard work by Dan? 58 00:05:54,029 --> 00:05:55,310 Well, it's the RFQ. 59 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:55,970 Did it say? 60 00:05:57,740 --> 00:05:57,779 No. 61 00:05:59,389 --> 00:06:01,149 Didn't we call it? 62 00:06:01,149 --> 00:06:01,920 Yeah. 63 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:04,079 We were saying 16 at one time. 64 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:05,120 I don't see it this year. 65 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,000 She said about one year. 66 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,149 I think the average cuttings per year are 20. 67 00:06:10,949 --> 00:06:11,910 It depends. 68 00:06:12,430 --> 00:06:14,310 This year we may be mowing sooner. 69 00:06:14,730 --> 00:06:16,329 I guess it really depends on the year. 70 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:18,529 It really doesn't matter if neither one of them 71 00:06:18,529 --> 00:06:19,649 put a number down. 72 00:06:21,259 --> 00:06:23,480 If it's a price you take 20 to buy it, 73 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,399 I'll tell you what's your number off. 74 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:26,240 There's a number on the wall. 75 00:06:28,339 --> 00:06:29,980 Yeah, on Lee Paw, it's 76 00:06:30,980 --> 00:06:32,579 estimated 20 cuts 77 00:06:33,819 --> 00:06:34,699 and on the yard work, 78 00:06:34,699 --> 00:06:37,459 by Dan, it doesn't say how many cuts. 79 00:06:37,459 --> 00:06:40,740 So number three just tells you how often you'd like it, 80 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:42,040 but you don't specify it. 81 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Twice a week is that what we're looking at? 82 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Or do we take a plan on it or something like that? 83 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:07,269 We charge more each year to the same price as each other. 84 00:07:07,269 --> 00:07:09,269 That's your charge. 85 00:07:09,269 --> 00:07:12,459 So that's even more confusing. 86 00:07:12,459 --> 00:07:15,459 Part of it's a weekly one and part of it's a daily one. 87 00:07:15,459 --> 00:07:16,459 Let's just use the number. 88 00:07:16,459 --> 00:07:17,459 It doesn't matter. 89 00:07:17,459 --> 00:07:20,959 If we use the number of 20, we divide both prices. 90 00:07:20,959 --> 00:07:26,800 By 20, it'll give us the number of costs per cut. 91 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,420 Well, the cost per cut's on there too. 92 00:07:28,420 --> 00:07:30,980 One just specifies it. 93 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:32,560 Yeah. 94 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Yeah. 95 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Yeah. 96 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Is that contractual? 97 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,480 Whatever it is. 98 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,480 However many it needs. 99 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,480 I know we've gone over the yard work by Dan before, too, 100 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,459 because the mowing season wasn't done. 101 00:07:43,459 --> 00:07:44,459 And you can't let the grass grow. 102 00:07:44,459 --> 00:07:45,459 And even here, you started early, 103 00:07:45,459 --> 00:07:46,459 but it depends on the season. 104 00:07:46,459 --> 00:07:47,459 Right. 105 00:07:47,459 --> 00:07:48,589 What's your feeling on this? 106 00:07:48,589 --> 00:07:49,589 I don't know. 107 00:07:49,589 --> 00:07:50,589 I don't know. 108 00:07:50,589 --> 00:07:54,470 I don't know. 109 00:07:54,470 --> 00:07:55,470 I don't know. 110 00:07:55,470 --> 00:07:56,470 I don't know. 111 00:07:56,470 --> 00:07:59,290 I don't know. 112 00:07:59,290 --> 00:08:00,290 I don't know. 113 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:01,290 I don't know. 114 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:02,389 I don't know. 115 00:08:02,389 --> 00:08:02,889 I don't know. 116 00:08:02,889 --> 00:08:03,290 I don't know. 117 00:08:03,310 --> 00:08:06,319 I don't know. 118 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:07,319 But, uh, I don't have any questions on the yard work by Dan. 119 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:08,319 Oh. 120 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:09,319 Can I see it? 121 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:10,319 Yeah. 122 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:11,319 Go ahead. 123 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:14,209 I'm not open, so. 124 00:08:14,209 --> 00:08:16,040 Oh. 125 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Can you say it? 126 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Oh, yeah. 127 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,040 We got it. 128 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,269 Yard work by Dan, 200 per cutting, 750 clean up. 129 00:08:20,269 --> 00:08:21,269 Big paw, 200 per cutting. 130 00:08:21,269 --> 00:08:22,399 And 5. 131 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:23,399 In the past, the clean up included top soil and seeding. 132 00:08:23,399 --> 00:08:32,809 And I don't think that Dan's. 133 00:08:32,809 --> 00:08:38,389 He did an extra bid last year, I think. 134 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:39,389 Yeah. 135 00:08:39,389 --> 00:08:40,639 Yeah. 136 00:08:40,639 --> 00:08:41,639 But do you think he did it tougher? 137 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:42,769 Yeah. 138 00:08:42,769 --> 00:08:44,000 But I don't think he defined it more than he did in the past. 139 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 I don't know. 140 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 He did it. 141 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 I don't know. 142 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 He did it in the past. 143 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,340 Yeah, I don't think he's defining what he's doing with his money. 144 00:08:54,049 --> 00:08:55,450 No, it just says right now. 145 00:08:55,450 --> 00:09:32,919 I mean, it's probably going to be at least $1,799. 146 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:34,679 That's what you're saying. 147 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,120 Whatever, $518,000, just charge him by the top, basically, right? 148 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:43,460 Right. 149 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:46,590 Right, it'll go down. 150 00:09:46,590 --> 00:09:50,070 $20,000 is $4,000. 151 00:09:51,029 --> 00:09:51,990 Whatever it is. 152 00:09:54,639 --> 00:09:58,159 Mowing last year, mowing and cleanup was $4,000. 153 00:10:00,820 --> 00:10:04,059 That was, now, that's the old one last year. 154 00:10:04,220 --> 00:10:05,960 Now it would be $47,000. 155 00:10:08,210 --> 00:10:14,519 It doesn't matter, it's proportional. 156 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:18,559 Oh, shouldn't I have said $5,000? 157 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,750 I said $5,000. 158 00:10:22,769 --> 00:10:23,309 All in favor? 159 00:10:23,769 --> 00:10:24,029 Aye. 160 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:25,740 Two in favor? 161 00:10:25,740 --> 00:10:27,960 I'm saying, yeah, I'm saying aye. 162 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:29,240 Thank you. 163 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:32,639 Thanks, sir. 164 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:34,320 Is there one on me? 165 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:46,200 We'll get your certificate of insurance to Lori. 166 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:50,159 Yeah, she called the insurance company to send all of that. 167 00:10:50,159 --> 00:10:51,159 We'll send it back to Lori. 168 00:10:54,909 --> 00:10:56,070 Starts at least, then? 169 00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:58,450 Yeah, sooner or better. 170 00:10:58,809 --> 00:10:59,009 Yep. 171 00:10:59,690 --> 00:11:00,330 We'll vote tonight. 172 00:11:02,570 --> 00:11:03,950 There's no vote tomorrow. 173 00:11:03,950 --> 00:11:08,149 Okay, hearing the visitors. 174 00:11:08,610 --> 00:11:15,509 There are two events coming up that I want to let everybody in town know about. 175 00:11:15,690 --> 00:11:22,629 One is on May 3rd is our once-a-year Vermont Green Up Day, and it's here at the school 176 00:11:22,629 --> 00:11:24,970 from 8 till noon. 177 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:32,929 You come in, you are given gloves and a garbage bag and assigned or choose some road to just 178 00:11:32,929 --> 00:11:34,889 go around and help pick up trash. 179 00:11:35,529 --> 00:11:37,149 Really nice community event. 180 00:11:37,149 --> 00:11:38,330 This is the town. 181 00:11:39,370 --> 00:11:39,870 The second... 182 00:11:39,889 --> 00:11:46,549 The second one is happening on May 10th from 10 till 2 here at the school, and that is 183 00:11:46,549 --> 00:11:57,940 going to be our second annual resiliency fair, and it will be expanded this year in that 184 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:03,820 we're going to plan to not just have food, but to have a community meal together. 185 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:09,820 It'll basically be, you know, speakers and... 186 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:16,019 Goods that are locally produced, agricultural things, so if you are a producer of eggs, 187 00:12:16,019 --> 00:12:22,340 honey, maple syrup, or whatever, and want to be representative, hit me up, and also a 188 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:22,740 band. 189 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:27,980 Dan's son is in a band, and they're amazing, so come like them all. 190 00:12:29,980 --> 00:12:31,139 I had a question. 191 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:31,620 Yes. 192 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,740 On the clean-off. 193 00:12:32,879 --> 00:12:33,220 Yes. 194 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:35,820 Does the state provide you with the gloves and the bags? 195 00:12:36,419 --> 00:12:38,279 They provide us with the bags. 196 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,399 I got the gloves. 197 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:39,700 Okay. 198 00:12:39,899 --> 00:12:40,220 Well, the reason why... 199 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:40,279 Okay. 200 00:12:40,279 --> 00:12:40,580 Well, the reason why... 201 00:12:40,580 --> 00:12:45,340 I'm asking if you weren't on the town agenda to say you didn't get your $50, I don't think. 202 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,860 That goes to the state. 203 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:47,580 Okay. 204 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:48,840 The $50 goes to the state. 205 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,120 That goes to the state. 206 00:12:49,340 --> 00:12:49,440 Yeah. 207 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:50,840 Our local lesson given is... 208 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,490 If you need anything, I'll help you out. 209 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:55,169 Thank you. 210 00:12:55,490 --> 00:12:55,990 Thank you. 211 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,860 What's the date of the first one again? 212 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:00,200 I'm sorry. 213 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,019 The first one is May 3rd. 214 00:13:02,039 --> 00:13:02,700 It's a Saturday. 215 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:03,879 Thank you. 216 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:05,379 Dave brings his truck down. 217 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,000 We all have the joy of tossing these massive bags of trash, and you really see a difference. 218 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:11,919 I mean, not with the snow. 219 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:12,320 It's not... 220 00:13:12,340 --> 00:13:12,480 It's not... 221 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:12,740 It's not... 222 00:13:12,740 --> 00:13:12,840 It's not... 223 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:12,899 It's not... 224 00:13:12,899 --> 00:13:13,340 It's not... 225 00:13:13,340 --> 00:13:18,200 Mike Cole. 226 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:18,720 Mike Cole. 227 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,519 Mike Cole. 228 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:19,700 Mike Cole. 229 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,220 And it's not mad, so... 230 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:22,419 Mike. 231 00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:26,039 So, I'm here on behalf of Alkawal. 232 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:30,799 I'm still a board member, and I just wanted to touch base with you guys on Colbert at 233 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:33,600 the top of Suzanne Drive on Sports News Road. 234 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:37,039 I don't know where you guys ended up with that in the hydraulic study. 235 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,080 I did touch base with Josh Carville just in passing, and me and him talked about it for 236 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,340 a minute. 237 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:48,820 just looking to get started again yep dave he's got some information so yesterday i got the 238 00:13:48,820 --> 00:13:56,870 hydraulic studies yeah so i haven't um got much information as far as cost because there's he's 239 00:13:56,870 --> 00:14:05,269 also his original design for the most effective um installation i told him really is not really 240 00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:09,590 feasible in a way yeah i know because he he said something about it had some hurdles with 241 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:16,370 permitting all that i just i don't see it happening yeah so i asked him to come up with 242 00:14:16,370 --> 00:14:23,889 some alternatives and he's supposed to send those to us yeah cool um one seems fairly reasonable 243 00:14:23,889 --> 00:14:32,179 the other one would include you know a long pipe you know it would be better kind of like the 244 00:14:32,179 --> 00:14:37,940 second most effective but still kind of a complicated project and the third one is 245 00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:39,700 fairly simple but 246 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:47,539 it's still going to be the least effective yeah and you still might have the same problem you do 247 00:14:47,539 --> 00:14:54,340 now yeah possibly because i do um alcohol we washed out again down low i think you guys already 248 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:58,820 heard that but uh we have been talking about trying to do some stuff to mitigate on our end of 249 00:14:58,820 --> 00:15:05,379 it um one thing we came up with was maybe we'll put a culvert across like 100 or 150 feet down 250 00:15:05,379 --> 00:15:10,259 the road so that when it does come over it tends to hit the ditches and maybe we can cross it 251 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:15,059 it's all the way down to the houses right you know what i mean try to mitigate our problem 252 00:15:15,970 --> 00:15:21,889 but hopefully we can work together and figure out some way to mike that's one thing i was going to 253 00:15:21,889 --> 00:15:31,250 mention is if we go forward we can there's always a chance yeah there may be grants 254 00:15:31,250 --> 00:15:37,169 yeah so if we went forward looking for a grant whatever uh the options we desire 255 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,279 is 256 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:49,139 willing to work with us on the leftover cost because grants are always matching 257 00:15:49,139 --> 00:15:53,460 yeah and i i can't speak for the whole board but i believe we will i think that would make it 258 00:15:54,340 --> 00:16:00,340 yeah no i i i think that we're looking to spend some money to save us money in the long run right 259 00:16:00,340 --> 00:16:07,059 right is where we're coming from exactly so that's that one plan that is the easiest i just 260 00:16:07,059 --> 00:16:11,220 i'm against that i looked at the plan yes very small 261 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:19,750 why put money into something that's just gonna be the same way i think yeah i'm not an expert so 262 00:16:19,750 --> 00:16:25,110 i'm looking for more guidance like you are about yeah the cost is what we're looking at yeah yeah 263 00:16:26,309 --> 00:16:32,070 i'm not again i'm just using you know made up numbers right now but if we get an 80 percent 264 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:36,309 grant we gotta make 20 percent whatever that number is yeah yeah we can work together yeah 265 00:16:36,309 --> 00:16:40,470 no definitely and that's where because like you guys can get grants out the wall we're kind of 266 00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:42,789 hand side you can't really get grants for nothing and we're 267 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:47,830 not a municipality right so that's where like we've been talking about we budget for four 268 00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:51,909 culverts a year so we're going to eat one this year if we end up doing this over on that road 269 00:16:52,549 --> 00:16:58,049 just we'll have to get the landowner i think it's um aaron murphy excuse me oliver's old 270 00:16:58,049 --> 00:17:01,250 place we'd love to get him on board because we're going to put him in culver just haven't 271 00:17:01,250 --> 00:17:06,690 been there before you know what i mean so yeah i have a question what does that do to the hydraulic 272 00:17:06,690 --> 00:17:13,619 study if you put a culvert and or you're trying to put it in what does that do to the josh culver 273 00:17:13,779 --> 00:17:22,019 study i have no idea the motor load problem yeah below the problem right yeah this would be down 274 00:17:22,019 --> 00:17:26,660 and be down suzanne drive it would essentially be if the water came over again and comes down 275 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:32,740 suzanne drive it would hopefully shoot the water back over and not go down the road farther what 276 00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:39,430 size culvert are you thinking of putting in there i would put a 24 in minimum um what about time 277 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:44,230 periods you have no idea right that's the biggest issue well yeah i mean hopefully you'll be able to 278 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:48,789 ask me pretty quick i'll i'll do it if he does i don't think it's something to do for him yeah 279 00:17:51,589 --> 00:17:55,349 so we really can't make a decision right now until we see those and 280 00:17:55,349 --> 00:18:00,630 i mean for the most part i don't i i think the most effective option is almost off the table 281 00:18:00,630 --> 00:18:05,349 because you're not having to have an ax in 50 it's going to be oh yeah and he said something 282 00:18:05,349 --> 00:18:10,390 about having to get the frigging uh the iron engineers involved and stuff and just like you 283 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:14,309 know where are you calling it for us grant wise too there's some questions 284 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:22,390 questions if it involves you know like a private road you know that kind of stuff whether what 285 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:26,230 they would pay for what they wouldn't pay for he couldn't really give you any answers on that yeah 286 00:18:27,730 --> 00:18:31,170 no definitely because i mean we're just asking to be captain of the loop and like we're willing to 287 00:18:31,170 --> 00:18:36,210 work with you guys that's for sure i'm definitely working on it yeah no perfect like i said we're 288 00:18:36,210 --> 00:18:41,089 just it's one of those we had that watch again that just yeah it gets you thinking about it 289 00:18:41,089 --> 00:18:44,880 again so i just figured i'd come down and touch base with you and we'll see you next time 290 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:51,359 and i can start reaching out to you personally dave too yeah that's fine in between just to keep 291 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,000 in the loop and figure out what's going on if you're here after the meeting you know you can 292 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,200 get my number and yeah i'll take it yeah i probably won't be here after the meeting but 293 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,720 all right i'll catch up with you sometime we'll be talking to each other yeah 294 00:19:10,609 --> 00:19:15,569 so it's great that i'm sitting here i'm i'm mike burke he's aaron's father and from here 295 00:19:15,730 --> 00:19:20,680 he's busy now but i guess will there be an opportunity for the people who are affected 296 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:28,039 by that he has to stream that's actually going to be uh changed by all this so will will there 297 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:34,039 be an opportunity for him to have consultation i'm sure they will because they can't do anything 298 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:43,160 without the property yeah i'm not sure exactly what his concerns are 299 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,480 we felt maybe some of the concern we would want to try to cause him any issue in any way and 300 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:58,920 direct the water in a way that was going to you know him out and he would still get no matter what 301 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:06,690 that if we decided you know the most effective or the second most effective that color there's 302 00:20:06,690 --> 00:20:12,930 now a stack because there is a stream channel there that wouldn't be captured by the others 303 00:20:16,819 --> 00:20:23,220 so he has it so he has a well there right which actually is related to that water and also 304 00:20:23,220 --> 00:20:29,460 he has a stream of property that has to address that for him so that that so those are the 305 00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:36,819 questions that he has all three scenarios he's still going to get water down to his little pond 306 00:20:36,819 --> 00:20:46,210 area yeah there's a positive yeah you would still get water is up up the top and down at the bottom 307 00:20:46,690 --> 00:20:48,369 right it just would be either he's going to get 308 00:20:49,009 --> 00:20:56,369 all the water at the top or some water tops and most of the time right so maybe 309 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:11,000 if uh alchemol puts in the culvert do you uh you have to have land on your commission too 310 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,559 to put that on their property and start dating up their property right 311 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:19,799 yes we can do our work in our right of way but we would essentially need to ask permission 312 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:26,119 as we'd be directing water onto that property okay so that because there's no existing culvert 313 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,000 there like those existing we can just change it so will it be going down heading towards more 314 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,279 towards leases now it would be the idea would be to have it high enough so it would get back 315 00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:43,059 in the water channel that comes off of aaron murphy's property on the leases property i'd 316 00:21:43,059 --> 00:21:48,339 say that again it's coming off the errands right yeah so it's going the culverts can divert the 317 00:21:48,339 --> 00:21:49,460 water onto errands 318 00:21:52,019 --> 00:22:00,980 yes so it would cross the if you were standing on uh sportsman's road looking down suzanne drive 319 00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:04,740 it would cross water from the left side of suzanne drive 320 00:22:05,539 --> 00:22:09,730 to the right and it's going to take almost no water 321 00:22:10,289 --> 00:22:15,170 only in the event that this water comes over the road like it hasn't been 322 00:22:15,170 --> 00:22:18,289 but that should go right in the same place as the water's going right now 323 00:22:19,569 --> 00:22:21,890 yeah exactly so it's it's it's essentially a 324 00:22:22,289 --> 00:22:26,609 preventative thing but it would mitigate the problems that we had down on hairline 325 00:22:27,809 --> 00:22:31,970 to keep the water from chasing i mean you're never going to stop at all most of the ones 326 00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:36,210 that happen this time because of snow it's just one of those your hands are tied you can only do 327 00:22:36,210 --> 00:22:41,250 so much water comes from everywhere yeah so so you're saying that the way that the surface water 328 00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:45,569 would be affected on the sportsman's road probably around the corner there would be 329 00:22:45,569 --> 00:22:51,410 better like though what album log wants to do wouldn't affect anything to do with 330 00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:57,759 how the water comes across sportsman's road what album wall is going to do is just to put a culvert 331 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:05,970 in for a backup essentially just a backup drainage around your house yeah exactly so it's just that's 332 00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:11,430 a cool our first step and then hopefully we can figure something else out then hopefully we'll see 333 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:19,589 what yeah yeah yeah oh nothing happened nothing happens you can discuss whether you know the 334 00:23:21,109 --> 00:23:23,509 second option is feasible out the walls 335 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:28,789 you know interested in pursuing that yeah not perfect i'm glad to hear there's other options 336 00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:35,349 because you sent me that option the first one yeah i i really pushed on pretty hard to try to 337 00:23:35,349 --> 00:23:42,069 you know be more open to yeah different options a lot logical that didn't seem you know i mean it 338 00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:49,829 might be the best you know for flow but yeah not perfect there's a lot of hurdles and is that 339 00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:53,430 the first one we looked at here below yeah two properties 340 00:23:54,069 --> 00:23:57,509 right yeah redoing the stream beds and all that 341 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,279 so do you have any thoughts about the actual idea of where that might actually be happening something 342 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:13,349 well i know that the town doesn't have funding enough to do for any of those projects itself so 343 00:24:14,529 --> 00:24:22,049 i mean if you guys want we can try to apply for grants and you're not necessarily gonna get any of 344 00:24:22,049 --> 00:24:29,990 them this year um i still don't know if they would pay 345 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,799 for the second option 346 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:42,079 to get longer probably where you're thinking about dumping it's almost the same idea it's 347 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:46,319 the same idea except for you know it's going to be crossing grabbing that water 348 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:49,759 and then going underneath 349 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:53,039 yep 350 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,000 obviously it's a private road the town can't just do that yeah 351 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,480 yeah 352 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,640 like i said we're willing to play that's that's i mean that's a fun day that's a lot that's a pretty 353 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:16,039 sizable project other than you know compared to the third option yeah which was kind of in the 354 00:25:16,039 --> 00:25:26,069 same area the pipe is now adjusting it a little bit you know angle wise yeah but then that's the 355 00:25:26,069 --> 00:25:31,190 least effective because you're gonna have yeah you still have that hard 90 and it still is what it's 356 00:25:31,349 --> 00:25:43,079 right so i can tell you that it's the size of it i would go with the kind of a squash cover 357 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:50,440 the metal pipe arch yep um you need two options one of them's around 3.5 feet but 358 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:59,410 the the squash house would handle the debris a lot better yeah i agree i believe so the size is 33 by 359 00:25:59,410 --> 00:26:10,130 49 yep perfect so it's really not as big fortunately yep that's why i had expected them 360 00:26:10,130 --> 00:26:15,569 to come off no i agree i'm surprised a little bit yeah so does anything that you guys are talking 361 00:26:15,569 --> 00:26:23,089 about have action 15 involved in them just one one option one option one the most effective but 362 00:26:23,089 --> 00:26:29,589 most terrible and even that's not a guarantee if you got to bring the iron core in you're looking 363 00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:30,549 at years 364 00:26:31,109 --> 00:26:38,819 is there something temporarily that doesn't involve the army for years or 365 00:26:39,859 --> 00:26:46,339 so kind of well there's two options that wouldn't require an act 250 or the army for right um 366 00:26:47,619 --> 00:26:52,950 believe it or not the the second third option don't require 367 00:26:56,150 --> 00:27:00,069 so that's that's funny because it's an intern industry 368 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,079 like i said 369 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,119 i don't i ain't even priced one of those colors in a while so i don't know 370 00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:24,799 wait until you get more information you can work with mike and i like to bring this up all the time 371 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:27,440 how many coverage do we have 300. 372 00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:36,609 so and not all of them are in good shape no i mean we have similar projects that are probably we're 373 00:27:36,769 --> 00:27:44,049 structures are running you know they're starting to fail yeah um we're in the same situation yeah 374 00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:07,109 i'd like to see where the options come in i mean it sounds like 375 00:28:07,109 --> 00:28:13,509 option two would be the best in my mind if that's the case what's the number what if is there a 376 00:28:13,509 --> 00:28:20,069 grant available we go back and tell that wallet or on the wall it has to be a hundred thousand dollars 377 00:28:20,069 --> 00:28:24,950 they want to they got to come in half they might say well we don't have the money we surely don't 378 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:30,869 have the money right then we go look for a grant or we can say the grant came in and we're getting 379 00:28:30,869 --> 00:28:35,349 eighty thousand now we only gotta come up with ten we'll come up you know something like that 380 00:28:37,109 --> 00:28:43,509 don't justify it maybe when i get the options i'll talk to mike and maybe maybe you can throw a 381 00:28:43,509 --> 00:28:52,710 number at doing the job yeah yeah you know and then if we can get a grant that pays some money 382 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:57,670 for it you guys can put your time in it and you know i don't know how it'll work but yeah yeah 383 00:28:57,670 --> 00:29:02,309 no but that's what that's what i'm saying we're here to play like it just that's a pretty pretty 384 00:29:02,309 --> 00:29:06,950 long stretch there it's going to be yeah quite a bit of money just for the phone yeah yeah yeah no 385 00:29:07,109 --> 00:29:11,700 it'd be nice to hear because we don't want to put something that's going to interfere with 386 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:16,019 the future project you know what i mean yeah because we might still put in this lower pipe just 387 00:29:16,019 --> 00:29:21,410 to help mitigate that like i said you're never going to fix it forever i mean it's always going 388 00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:26,369 to come over at some point sometimes we're going to get heavy rain with snow and yeah 389 00:29:27,009 --> 00:29:34,529 yep exactly it'll never be cured it'll just be better okay thank you 390 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,480 jamie jamie elias who's in drive i'm 391 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,440 going to go in the yard i'm very glad to hear a conversation that things are going to be changing 392 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,559 meanwhile my guy came out and gave me a quote of three thousand dollars to fix my driveway 393 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:53,839 in the yard to make it look like it did before the rain i would like to know where this money 394 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:59,650 is coming from i don't have it to keep doing this over and over and over i pay my alcohol 395 00:29:59,650 --> 00:30:05,119 dues i think it's ethanol's responsibility bart has told my husband last week that he 396 00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:08,559 would come with some sort of yellow machine with a straight blade and 397 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:19,599 or crap out as much as he could and i've heard nothing seen nothing well i don't believe it's 398 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:27,029 the town's responsibility to fix that up we don't go on anybody else's private property we only have 399 00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:38,740 problems i mean my whole bank washed up three times ten thousand and the state didn't say we'll 400 00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:45,089 help you and i know it's the way it is you can try to alleviate problems in the future 401 00:30:45,650 --> 00:30:50,789 yeah i know water's the enemy you can't stop it when it's coming down 402 00:30:53,059 --> 00:30:59,619 part of that will help her out it's up to you guys you get a nice board decision left to 403 00:31:00,259 --> 00:31:10,359 talk about on the board any other hearing visitors walt do you want to speak at all 404 00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,000 you want whatever it's up to you um 405 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:28,519 see what i could do to uh plow from uh shank road and down to wally dolly's old place 406 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,960 walter what's your last name winter oh you're right on the corner then yes 407 00:31:40,869 --> 00:31:43,109 yeah 408 00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:50,230 well we do let other people follow 409 00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:54,500 the roads but you have to fill out the insurance 410 00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:58,980 there's an agreement that you have to sign with the town every year 411 00:32:00,099 --> 00:32:04,259 we need the insurance certificate lori has the information on it 412 00:32:07,009 --> 00:32:13,009 dave inspects it after in the spring each time to make sure there's no other damage and 413 00:32:13,809 --> 00:32:20,130 you would repair any damage caused to the road because the road is closed supposed to be closed 414 00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:27,079 in the winter i've seen tracks over there um what else do we need with that 415 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:34,200 so dave um one of the services he was having is the insurance he's having a tough time finding 416 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:42,529 an insurance for himself um the other people that do this they source it out to a local guy at fox 417 00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:43,890 right um 418 00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:52,609 yeah that's what i i did mention the wall that means we can get a hold of brian 419 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,440 contact stuff 420 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,960 because the numbers at wall 421 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,000 talking about you can build we can put a road in 422 00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:07,480 if i'm not mistaken i think you just need to get commercial insurance for your 423 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,829 truck they can follow this but then you're following your own property 424 00:33:11,829 --> 00:33:15,240 you don't have to get insurance on your vehicle they can follow your own 425 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:21,319 your own driveway as soon as you drop your file on someone else's property you're not covered by 426 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:26,230 your all your regular automobile insurance you have to get what's called commercial insurance 427 00:33:27,329 --> 00:33:29,170 they make it sound like a big deal that's true 428 00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:36,880 yeah yeah yeah just okay like that a little extra you know fee and it covers you to plow 429 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:48,279 other people's credit so we'll give you okay we got all summers yeah yeah laurie's got all 430 00:33:48,279 --> 00:34:05,109 the agreement okay yeah grab that from laurie or just case you had it thank you yeah okay um 431 00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:12,000 all set here reading and approval records and orders from march 20th 432 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:44,039 approved uh second all in favor 433 00:34:50,070 --> 00:34:52,710 when i can't agree when you start ditching on each 434 00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:59,800 row 435 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,719 don't know when you come no not yet 436 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,239 um 437 00:35:08,739 --> 00:35:10,739 and you did say something about um 438 00:35:12,289 --> 00:35:19,960 sweeper yeah this week right i have a contact with the maintenance man this year 439 00:35:24,769 --> 00:35:26,340 gonna be 440 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:37,599 they won't give you an actual date because of weather and you don't however it's only a day 441 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,840 so we'll just kind of 442 00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:48,949 when are we going to revisit the idea of next year we're going to be doing another project 443 00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:53,860 our five-year project 444 00:35:55,460 --> 00:36:00,739 so i would say when i go around with him to kind of 445 00:36:00,739 --> 00:36:04,980 submit all the roles we'll get into that more obviously 446 00:36:05,619 --> 00:36:07,860 prices 447 00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:08,420 okay 448 00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:22,579 you know how i am the longer things go the more they cost more and i know the number that we had 449 00:36:22,579 --> 00:36:30,179 for this road will go off just by any stretch of your imagination and depending on how things are 450 00:36:30,179 --> 00:36:36,739 going on in the economy to grow higher but i don't like to wait on things if we couldn't do it at all 451 00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:39,780 we're not going to that spot you know tom says no problem 452 00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:42,659 we're not done okay but if we are 453 00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:50,500 fire trust is a great example if we if we don't like you know if we wait 454 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:56,820 and we didn't we saved well over a hundred thousand dollars so it makes sense the guy i 455 00:36:56,820 --> 00:37:03,380 normally deal with knows that we're interested in having possibly some more roads down so you know 456 00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:09,969 we need to know that it may be easier to you know especially if it's slow at all or sharing more work 457 00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:15,119 that's good 458 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:17,880 things all good 459 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,159 no the rand truck is at the buyers at the moment 460 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:25,639 it had a bunch of lights on the dash and just 461 00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:36,099 can you lie dad 462 00:37:36,099 --> 00:37:40,480 and it wouldn't allow to go into all the drive and everything's tied into the computer now so 463 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:48,179 or not, so I have no idea what's going on with that at the moment, but it's down there. 464 00:37:48,179 --> 00:37:51,179 Do you know how much the roughing and miles are on this vehicle? 465 00:37:51,179 --> 00:37:54,400 About $50,000. 466 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,400 I'm planning on, next year, coming to the board so we can put that on for a one-hour 467 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,400 goal to replace it because it's five years old. 468 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400 Unfortunately, we probably should have done it this year. 469 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,400 It's probably missing the homeworks, and it may come down just now. 470 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,400 Right. 471 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,400 We're just talking about some way in with private vehicles. 472 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,530 You know, John's got a business. 473 00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:17,530 He's buying vehicles. 474 00:38:17,530 --> 00:38:19,530 I'm buying machines. 475 00:38:19,530 --> 00:38:23,530 When you start spending more than your payments would be for a new machine, and that's where 476 00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:24,530 we're at. 477 00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:28,530 You know, you're starting to spend more in a year. 478 00:38:28,530 --> 00:38:33,530 When you get those numbers and you approach the town and say, look, I'm spending $12,000 479 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:38,530 a year on this truck, and it's depreciating more and more, I might do what my payments 480 00:38:38,530 --> 00:38:39,530 would be. 481 00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:40,530 You know? 482 00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:41,530 That's how we bought the last one. 483 00:38:41,530 --> 00:38:42,530 Yeah. 484 00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:43,530 I mean, it just makes sense. 485 00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:44,530 It's hard to understand because the old days, you had a vehicle. 486 00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:45,530 You kept going. 487 00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:46,530 You could fix it. 488 00:38:46,530 --> 00:38:47,530 You knew how to fix it. 489 00:38:47,530 --> 00:38:48,530 Now, you're okay. 490 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:49,530 You don't have to think about it. 491 00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:50,530 Yeah. 492 00:38:50,530 --> 00:38:51,530 Most of the non-volts, we don't like it. 493 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:52,530 I can handle it. 494 00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:53,530 Everything goes through the computer. 495 00:38:53,530 --> 00:38:54,530 I'm doing the same thing down the shop. 496 00:38:54,530 --> 00:38:55,530 I buy these machines. 497 00:38:55,530 --> 00:38:56,530 They're all computerized. 498 00:38:56,530 --> 00:38:57,530 They break. 499 00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:58,530 I can't fix it. 500 00:38:58,530 --> 00:38:59,530 The old days, we could fix it. 501 00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:00,530 So, now, you're looking at it. 502 00:39:00,530 --> 00:39:01,530 You got it. 503 00:39:01,530 --> 00:39:02,530 You got it. 504 00:39:02,530 --> 00:39:03,530 You got it. 505 00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:04,530 You got it. 506 00:39:04,530 --> 00:39:05,530 You got it. 507 00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:06,530 You got it. 508 00:39:09,590 --> 00:39:10,590 You got it. 509 00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:11,590 You got it. 510 00:39:11,590 --> 00:39:12,590 We're going to have to replace them every five to seven years. 511 00:39:12,590 --> 00:39:13,590 Sure. 512 00:39:13,590 --> 00:39:14,590 The reliability really plays a part too. 513 00:39:14,590 --> 00:39:15,590 Because then you can be intact. 514 00:39:15,590 --> 00:39:16,590 . 515 00:39:16,590 --> 00:39:17,590 Okay. 516 00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:18,590 Less breakdowns. 517 00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:19,590 Yep. 518 00:39:19,590 --> 00:39:20,590 . 519 00:39:20,590 --> 00:39:21,590 And, truck does get used a lot. 520 00:39:21,590 --> 00:39:22,590 So, we've had good luck with it, compared to everything else. 521 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:23,590 So, I mean. 522 00:39:23,590 --> 00:39:24,780 Is that truck paid for now, or not? 523 00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:25,780 Earlier? 524 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:26,780 It will be, this year. 525 00:39:26,780 --> 00:39:27,780 That's the time. 526 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:28,780 Still, yeah. 527 00:39:28,780 --> 00:39:29,780 I mean, you're still talking. 528 00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:30,780 I mean, that truck is over a specific period. 529 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:31,780 Yeah. 530 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:32,780 I mean, we've known this truck for a long time. 531 00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:33,880 I mean, I've been here for like four years. 532 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,880 And, if I broke the truck or something- 533 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,880 Exactly. 534 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,880 Yeah. 535 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:43,840 talking i mean that truck was over just over a hundred thousand five years ago so i'm guessing 536 00:39:48,289 --> 00:39:54,750 they're not cheap but we should get something for it still you know the last truck we got 537 00:39:54,750 --> 00:40:02,059 rid of was just a rack right so we can get it down to the same payments and we're used to that 538 00:40:02,059 --> 00:40:24,239 i mean this winter's definitely had more failures with that truck than we've had 539 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,909 started to get to that point you know we're on the road side 540 00:40:32,539 --> 00:40:36,300 that's it yeah um anything on recycling 541 00:40:37,019 --> 00:40:42,260 or 542 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:50,769 discussion proposed bylaw revisions um the planning commission has presented the 543 00:40:50,769 --> 00:40:56,769 select board with the proposed zoning bylaws in the notice in there their 544 00:40:59,570 --> 00:41:07,710 changes are in gray they had their public hearing two three weeks ago so now the next step is to 545 00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:15,019 present this to the select board move it over um any changes to it concerning 546 00:41:15,659 --> 00:41:22,139 the sign section because that's all that we're discussing right now we can't do anything else 547 00:41:22,139 --> 00:41:29,980 in there without going to them first um have your questions ready for next meeting 548 00:41:30,780 --> 00:41:35,340 we'll discuss it we can talk to the board about the planning commission about it 549 00:41:35,980 --> 00:41:43,650 uh if there's major changes you send it back to them minor changes so we can proceed and do the 550 00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:44,369 public hearing 551 00:41:45,539 --> 00:41:51,380 and we can set that i think laurie said we've got 120 days after this is presented to us to 552 00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:58,210 have a public hearing so if we discuss it next meeting set a date sooner than later 553 00:41:59,489 --> 00:42:04,929 uh can i ask the planning board for some of them are here tonight uh you voted this in correct 554 00:42:08,110 --> 00:42:11,949 could you tell me what the vote numbers were was it unanimous 555 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,719 i just have one cranny thing lori um 556 00:42:19,889 --> 00:42:23,889 when laurie and i were on the phone there's one small change that we made that didn't make it into 557 00:42:23,889 --> 00:42:30,849 this something and i didn't eight of the ten yeah this morning oh you got so i don't want to please 558 00:42:30,849 --> 00:42:36,130 oh she's got the change anyway yeah okay before i printed it i checked it one more time sorry i 559 00:42:36,130 --> 00:42:41,250 didn't see it it's changed on your side we changed it and laurie and i were talking i was going to 560 00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:49,010 put together what to send you and and it's the eight that we changed page 24 but we haven't changed 561 00:42:50,769 --> 00:42:58,480 seven point sixteen two m um the temporary construction sign not to exceed 16 square feet 562 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,920 the total area for 10 feet in height it should have been eight and when i first drafted it i 563 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:11,059 didn't touch it but i did the height should be eight yeah say that number again seven point one 564 00:43:11,059 --> 00:43:16,579 sixteen two and top of flint's gross off this is the yeah 565 00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:17,940 yeah 566 00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:21,139 initially signed it to lisa 567 00:43:21,619 --> 00:43:25,699 yeah i had missed it so she thought of the story for the last time 568 00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:43,440 i would like to say that thank you to lisa for putting all the work into this and the rescue 569 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,760 board a lot of uh effort went into this and unfortunately it does come around the side 570 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,599 but we are all like having been about 571 00:43:52,639 --> 00:44:16,820 um look forward to reading 572 00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:26,579 commission update scanning 573 00:44:38,739 --> 00:44:41,630 um 574 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:57,710 okay um reading it over again this sounds like it only covers 575 00:44:59,409 --> 00:45:00,289 the elected 576 00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:02,670 collection inviss式 577 00:45:02,829 --> 00:45:10,829 individuals statutorily appointed to perform executive, administrative, legislative, quasi-judicial 578 00:45:10,829 --> 00:45:12,900 functions in the town? 579 00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:14,900 What about Mike Bermers? 580 00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:18,900 I'm sorry using names, but Mike's position? 581 00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:19,900 Employees. 582 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:20,900 Yeah. 583 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:21,900 Casey's position? 584 00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:22,900 Yeah. 585 00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:33,880 Could we add a line there, employees of the municipality, too, that should cover the employees? 586 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Yeah. 587 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,880 More. 588 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,880 What about maybe adding to that, too, anybody that's acting in an official position representing 589 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,880 the town? 590 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,880 Maybe not a white person appointed, you know, in front of this meeting like that. 591 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,880 Sure. 592 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,880 All right. 593 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,119 The board's better, I guess. 594 00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:56,119 Because I thought it was covered in our employee handbook, but there's nothing in the employee 595 00:45:56,119 --> 00:46:02,119 handbook that covers conflicts of interest or ethics, so that would be another next step 596 00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:04,119 we'd be working on. 597 00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:05,469 So if we add it in? 598 00:46:05,469 --> 00:46:06,469 Yeah. 599 00:46:06,469 --> 00:46:07,469 So that's in article three. 600 00:46:07,469 --> 00:46:17,079 Maybe we don't need it on the next page, number E, or whether it be public body, meaning 601 00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:19,079 boards, councils, commission, committee, or the municipality. 602 00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:20,079 So we have the municipality representing the town. 603 00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,579 Right? 604 00:46:22,579 --> 00:46:23,579 Yeah. 605 00:46:23,579 --> 00:46:24,579 This E. 606 00:46:24,579 --> 00:46:25,579 So you're reading them. 607 00:46:25,579 --> 00:46:26,869 The state's policy must apply to employees, doesn't it? 608 00:46:26,869 --> 00:46:27,869 The state's policy? 609 00:46:27,869 --> 00:46:30,730 Yeah. 610 00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:32,880 Okay. 611 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,150 Thank you. 612 00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:37,150 Thank you. 613 00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:38,150 Thank you. 614 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:39,150 Thank you. 615 00:46:39,150 --> 00:46:40,150 Thank you. 616 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:41,150 Thank you. 617 00:46:41,150 --> 00:46:42,380 Thank you. 618 00:46:42,380 --> 00:46:43,380 Thank you. 619 00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:45,820 Thank you. 620 00:46:45,820 --> 00:46:46,820 Thank you. 621 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:47,820 Thank you. 622 00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:48,820 Thank you. 623 00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:49,820 Thank you. 624 00:46:49,820 --> 00:46:50,820 Thank you. 625 00:46:50,820 --> 00:46:51,820 Thank you. 626 00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:52,820 Thank you. 627 00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:53,820 Thank you. 628 00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:54,820 Thank you. 629 00:46:54,820 --> 00:46:55,820 Thank you. 630 00:46:55,820 --> 00:46:56,820 Thank you. 631 00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:57,820 Thank you. 632 00:46:57,820 --> 00:46:58,820 Thank you. 633 00:46:58,820 --> 00:46:59,820 Thank you. 634 00:46:59,820 --> 00:47:00,820 Thank you. 635 00:47:00,820 --> 00:47:01,820 Thank you. 636 00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:02,820 Thank you. 637 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:03,820 Thank you. 638 00:47:03,820 --> 00:47:04,820 Thank you. 639 00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:05,820 Thank you. 640 00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:06,820 Thank you. 641 00:47:06,820 --> 00:47:07,820 Thank you. 642 00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:08,820 Thank you. 643 00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:09,820 Thank you. 644 00:47:09,820 --> 00:47:10,820 Thank you. 645 00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:11,820 Thank you. 646 00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:13,329 Thank you. 647 00:47:13,329 --> 00:47:14,780 Thank you. 648 00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:15,780 Thank you. 649 00:47:15,780 --> 00:47:19,719 I think we were just very close to this and didn't realize. 650 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,780 It doesn't hurt to add to it. 651 00:47:21,780 --> 00:47:23,079 Yeah, we can add to it. 652 00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:25,760 It doesn't hurt to add to it. 653 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,599 Let's add it in and try it next week. 654 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:30,039 And for next year then. 655 00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:32,980 Yeah, send it out and. 656 00:47:32,980 --> 00:47:37,739 Can we sign this without bringing it back to the board? 657 00:47:37,739 --> 00:47:38,880 You're good with the whole thing? 658 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,619 I mean, with just that one change, yeah. 659 00:47:41,619 --> 00:47:43,659 We've been talking about it for a long time. 660 00:47:43,659 --> 00:47:48,199 To make a motion, can't we say allowing for the changes that. 661 00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:49,940 They can be changed forever. 662 00:47:49,940 --> 00:47:54,570 We can go back a month now and go, hey, we want to make an amendment. 663 00:47:54,570 --> 00:47:59,329 I'd like to make a motion that we sign it with the changes that we spoke about tonight. 664 00:47:59,329 --> 00:48:01,170 And we can stop it and just sign it. 665 00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:02,550 Be done. 666 00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:05,409 We don't have to keep bringing this put on the calendar. 667 00:48:05,409 --> 00:48:10,409 Talk about it, not if I read it or not, but I don't see the errors like you do. 668 00:48:10,409 --> 00:48:13,550 Well, we didn't, Morgan, I didn't see it until the other day. 669 00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:13,789 I'm confused. 670 00:48:13,789 --> 00:48:17,969 Well, what about anybody representing the town? 671 00:48:17,969 --> 00:48:22,969 So, committee, but I think after we adopt this policy, 672 00:48:22,969 --> 00:48:29,829 we hand it to all the other boards in town because they have to follow this also. 673 00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:34,030 I'm still, and I hate to argue, I don't want to start arguing about this. 674 00:48:34,030 --> 00:48:39,849 I'm still having, there's a part of this, and part of, 675 00:48:39,849 --> 00:48:44,889 I guess, people that are in charge, I have a tough time with. 676 00:48:44,889 --> 00:48:56,010 We appoint Lisa on the board, and Lisa doesn't follow the board's rules, okay? 677 00:48:56,010 --> 00:48:59,309 You're causing issues on your board, whatever it is. 678 00:48:59,309 --> 00:49:02,349 Not, it's not a conflict of interest. 679 00:49:02,349 --> 00:49:09,309 It's an actual, you're disrupting the harmony of the board, whatever you want to call it. 680 00:49:09,309 --> 00:49:12,769 And the rest of the board brings that back to the appointors. 681 00:49:12,769 --> 00:49:17,550 We've appointed you, and we say, get an executive session. 682 00:49:17,550 --> 00:49:22,610 We sit you down and say, hey, look, we heard that you're swearing, you're out of line, 683 00:49:22,610 --> 00:49:27,610 you're not, you're making people, you're cutting people off, you're being a problem. 684 00:49:27,610 --> 00:49:35,880 I still feel this board should be able to reprimand another board member and say, 685 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,880 we're appointed, you're appointed by this board, and if you don't knock it off, you're done. 686 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,880 And we'll appoint someone else. 687 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,880 And I think that this board should have that authority to do that all the time. 688 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,619 This can't be a censure. 689 00:49:48,619 --> 00:49:50,619 We're elected. 690 00:49:50,619 --> 00:49:51,619 We're elected. 691 00:49:51,619 --> 00:49:52,619 They're appointed. 692 00:49:52,619 --> 00:49:58,619 I mean, it's just like the President of the United States coming in and bringing his cabinet in and saying, this is my cabinet. 693 00:49:58,619 --> 00:49:59,619 You're all done. 694 00:49:59,619 --> 00:50:01,619 Well, the same thing goes here. 695 00:50:01,619 --> 00:50:05,619 And not that, I'm not trying to sound like we're all that. 696 00:50:05,619 --> 00:50:10,619 It's just that because it's awesome to have so many people step to the plate and get on these boards. 697 00:50:10,619 --> 00:50:16,840 And I hate to bring this up, but right down below this, we have letters of resignation. 698 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,940 And one of the letters is, 699 00:50:18,940 --> 00:50:24,039 It's due to the actions of another member. 700 00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:27,039 And then that didn't come to this board. 701 00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:38,039 We just had a resignation letter right off the bat of someone saying, hey, look, this board is doing things that are against the rules of a board. 702 00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:41,090 So we have a public meeting loss. 703 00:50:41,090 --> 00:50:47,510 That means that I can't call up the rest of you guys and say, vote my way or else. 704 00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:49,510 It's against the public meeting rules. 705 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:50,510 Okay? 706 00:50:50,510 --> 00:50:52,510 We can talk about things. 707 00:50:52,510 --> 00:50:54,510 I can get the information set. 708 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:55,510 Here's the information. 709 00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:56,510 Hand it to all of us. 710 00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:58,510 You know, we've all done that. 711 00:50:58,510 --> 00:51:00,510 We read an article. 712 00:51:00,510 --> 00:51:02,570 We hand it to all of us to read. 713 00:51:02,570 --> 00:51:04,570 We don't make an agenda. 714 00:51:04,570 --> 00:51:06,570 We don't tell anybody what we're thinking. 715 00:51:06,570 --> 00:51:18,860 When we have board members that are going against the rules, that, and I'm not saying that I believe the people that are resigning or not. 716 00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:20,860 It doesn't matter. 717 00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:31,860 If you go to this board in our executive session, we should discuss it, find out what's going on, and say, hey, look, like I said, it doesn't matter if you resign or not. 718 00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:35,860 I'm saying that the people that resigned, now we put new people in. 719 00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:37,860 They have the same issue. 720 00:51:37,860 --> 00:51:39,860 We didn't solve the problem. 721 00:51:39,860 --> 00:51:47,530 All I'm saying is if I'm here as a board member, and I'm not trying to be a boss. 722 00:51:47,530 --> 00:51:48,530 I'm just calling the rest of this board. 723 00:51:48,530 --> 00:52:05,760 If I hear from other members that there's one member constantly causing trouble or doing things that are against the rules, not just unethically, but against public policy, you know, that open meeting laws, you can't do some of these things. 724 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,300 You can't have your little meetings at your house with, how many members you guys got now? 725 00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:11,300 Nine. 726 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:12,300 Nine? 727 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:13,300 No. 728 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:14,300 Seven? 729 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:17,300 So you have five of you guys have a meeting at someone's house. 730 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:19,300 And you all gang up on someone else. 731 00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:20,300 That's wrong. 732 00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:21,300 You can't do that. 733 00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:27,300 If you find that's happening, we have to address that as a board, because that doesn't make the town run smooth. 734 00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:28,300 Yeah. 735 00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:30,300 I mean, we could not appoint certain people. 736 00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:33,320 That's the way we feel. 737 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,099 You know, I'm bored. 738 00:52:38,099 --> 00:52:39,099 Right. 739 00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:40,099 And it's our job. 740 00:52:40,099 --> 00:52:43,280 Or I'm just seeking this not appoint. 741 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,480 Our job is to have a judicial system. 742 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,480 And that happens. 743 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,480 We get the information from both sides. 744 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,519 And then it's our job to make a decision. 745 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:56,539 Right now. 746 00:52:56,539 --> 00:52:58,539 And that's what we talked about this last year. 747 00:52:58,539 --> 00:53:00,539 About having all boards meetings. 748 00:53:00,539 --> 00:53:01,539 And having boards answer. 749 00:53:01,539 --> 00:53:07,400 So, and again, I'm just going to use this one because it came up today. 750 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,400 Conservation committee. 751 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,469 I didn't even know who was on that committee. 752 00:53:10,469 --> 00:53:13,880 It's been so long since I heard from them. 753 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,880 Now all of a sudden it's. 754 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:15,880 We're hearing about it. 755 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,289 We disagree. 756 00:53:18,289 --> 00:53:19,289 Yeah. 757 00:53:19,289 --> 00:53:20,289 You didn't hear about it. 758 00:53:20,289 --> 00:53:21,289 Last year we didn't even hear about it. 759 00:53:21,289 --> 00:53:22,800 Conservation committee. 760 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,539 There's a few new members who some of which are leaving now that. 761 00:53:26,539 --> 00:53:29,969 Right. 762 00:53:29,969 --> 00:53:30,969 They're leaving. 763 00:53:30,969 --> 00:53:33,900 So one meeting every six years. 764 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:34,900 Right. 765 00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,250 So that's. 766 00:53:36,250 --> 00:53:40,250 We should have at least, at least the chairman. 767 00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:41,250 You know, I mean. 768 00:53:41,250 --> 00:53:48,730 Should come forward and say, okay. 769 00:53:48,730 --> 00:53:49,730 There's a report. 770 00:53:49,730 --> 00:53:50,730 Back to the. 771 00:53:50,730 --> 00:53:51,730 The site board. 772 00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:53,730 Saying, Hey, this is what's going on. 773 00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:54,730 Everything's running smooth. 774 00:53:54,730 --> 00:53:56,730 Nothing's running smooth. 775 00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:58,730 We should hear about that. 776 00:53:58,730 --> 00:53:59,730 It shouldn't be just here. 777 00:53:59,730 --> 00:54:03,730 And it would make it better for this town. 778 00:54:03,730 --> 00:54:05,730 To be able to run it. 779 00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:09,119 You have people right now that are not happy with some boards. 780 00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,210 Now it's getting. 781 00:54:10,210 --> 00:54:11,239 Now that it's getting. 782 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,239 Video. 783 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,239 You can watch some of these board meetings. 784 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,369 And yes, I have no problem with. 785 00:54:14,369 --> 00:54:15,369 With having heated discussions. 786 00:54:15,369 --> 00:54:16,369 You know me. 787 00:54:16,369 --> 00:54:17,369 I don't. 788 00:54:17,369 --> 00:54:18,369 I'll have a heated discussion. 789 00:54:18,369 --> 00:54:19,369 But when you have people just. 790 00:54:19,369 --> 00:54:20,369 I mean, I would say. 791 00:54:20,369 --> 00:54:21,369 I would say there's a difference between healthy debates and debate. 792 00:54:21,369 --> 00:54:22,369 Just to be. 793 00:54:22,369 --> 00:54:23,369 I mean, you can. 794 00:54:23,369 --> 00:54:24,369 Come in at this. 795 00:54:24,369 --> 00:54:25,369 So I guess the reason why I brought it up here. 796 00:54:25,369 --> 00:54:26,369 I want to make a distinction between. 797 00:54:26,369 --> 00:54:27,369 This type of ethical problem. 798 00:54:27,369 --> 00:54:28,369 Or. 799 00:54:28,369 --> 00:54:29,369 This type of ethical problem. 800 00:54:29,369 --> 00:54:31,559 Or. 801 00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:32,840 This type of ethical problem. 802 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,510 Or. 803 00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:36,510 This type of ethical problem. 804 00:54:36,510 --> 00:54:37,510 Or. 805 00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:38,510 This type of ethical problem. 806 00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:39,510 Or. 807 00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:40,510 This type of ethical problem. 808 00:54:40,510 --> 00:54:41,510 Or. 809 00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:42,510 This type of ethical problem. 810 00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:43,510 Or. 811 00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:44,510 This type of ethical problem. 812 00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:45,510 Or. 813 00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:46,510 This type of ethical problem. 814 00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:47,510 Or. 815 00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:48,510 This type of ethical problem. 816 00:54:48,510 --> 00:54:50,210 Or. 817 00:54:50,210 --> 00:54:51,210 This type of ethical problem. 818 00:54:51,210 --> 00:54:52,210 Or. 819 00:54:52,210 --> 00:54:53,210 This type of ethical problem. 820 00:54:53,210 --> 00:54:54,210 Or. 821 00:54:54,210 --> 00:54:55,210 This type of ethical problem. 822 00:54:55,210 --> 00:54:56,210 Or. 823 00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:57,210 This type of ethical problem. 824 00:54:57,210 --> 00:54:59,909 Or. 825 00:54:59,909 --> 00:55:00,909 This type of ethical problem. 826 00:55:00,909 --> 00:55:02,099 Or. 827 00:55:02,099 --> 00:55:03,099 This type of ethical problem. 828 00:55:03,099 --> 00:55:04,130 Or. 829 00:55:04,130 --> 00:55:05,130 This type of ethical problem. 830 00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:06,130 Or. 831 00:55:06,130 --> 00:55:07,130 This type of ethical problem. 832 00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:08,130 Or. 833 00:55:08,130 --> 00:55:09,710 This type of ethical problem. 834 00:55:09,710 --> 00:55:10,710 Or. 835 00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:11,869 This type of ethical problem. 836 00:55:11,869 --> 00:55:12,869 Or. 837 00:55:12,869 --> 00:55:13,869 This type of ethical problem. 838 00:55:13,869 --> 00:55:16,119 Or. 839 00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:23,300 and go forward and maybe the person doesn't understand what they're doing no you can't call 840 00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:28,820 people on the phone and tell them what to vote for you can't do that okay you can't it's just wrong 841 00:55:32,579 --> 00:55:39,460 right now we need to tell them look you can't do that and go from there that's just my opinion i 842 00:55:39,460 --> 00:55:45,480 think this board should be able to take more action when it comes to that um aren't most of 843 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:51,719 the boards like when we meet here what you have to say will be conducted in a respectable manner 844 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,639 when we draw something like that i mean we're not talking like you said ethics you know we're 845 00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:03,960 talking about conduct right and disrupt us conduct which disrupts the running of the town sure so 846 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,760 could we put something you know use that as a basis like what she needs and everybody will 847 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:15,159 be respectful wait to be called on just draw that up now do you think who's your 848 00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:15,400 chair 849 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,480 now you are for the planning commission so the planning commission chair you have that type of 850 00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:32,119 yeah we just went through some some some good changes when i probably just prior to i took 851 00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:38,280 over as the chair and our first meeting as the chair just because i know you were on both boards 852 00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:45,400 the conservation commission did they have that type of language i never made a meeting 853 00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:52,360 okay good uh marvin you're there right not anymore so did you ever go to the meeting 854 00:56:53,239 --> 00:57:00,690 you was there any of that language at the beginning no no okay so that's a good idea to 855 00:57:00,690 --> 00:57:07,010 say hey look we all started our meetings all boards started meetings with this type of language 856 00:57:07,010 --> 00:57:11,809 to make sure the public knows that it's not just the board members the public says look 857 00:57:11,809 --> 00:57:15,889 you can't tip this table over if you do we got a problem right 858 00:57:16,050 --> 00:57:21,889 because even if i stand up and i'm seeing this happen where board members stand up 859 00:57:23,650 --> 00:57:31,250 you know we're having those discussions 860 00:57:33,090 --> 00:57:33,969 so 861 00:57:36,610 --> 00:57:38,730 where did you Get your 862 00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:40,389 wording from another town 863 00:57:40,389 --> 00:57:41,409 いや 864 00:57:41,409 --> 00:57:42,690 your 865 00:57:42,690 --> 00:57:44,409 opening from your planning commission meeting from other towns 866 00:57:44,409 --> 00:57:45,650 no it's week point from another town 867 00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:48,690 I think just what we've had in place in this town. 868 00:57:48,690 --> 00:57:49,929 So much of what we did. 869 00:57:49,929 --> 00:57:50,750 Yeah, right. 870 00:57:50,750 --> 00:57:52,289 I think it's something from another town 871 00:57:52,289 --> 00:57:55,030 that was similar to probably, it's probably home. 872 00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:56,969 I don't wanna make it go too long. 873 00:57:56,969 --> 00:58:00,090 I mean, the language has been there for a long time. 874 00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:00,929 Yeah. 875 00:58:00,929 --> 00:58:01,769 Yeah. 876 00:58:01,769 --> 00:58:05,230 But it just, it bothered me tonight 877 00:58:05,230 --> 00:58:07,630 when I saw the letters 878 00:58:07,630 --> 00:58:09,869 and it bothered me that I saw the letters. 879 00:58:09,869 --> 00:58:13,210 I think, you know, we had a person that was appointed 880 00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:17,110 and now is leaving, never, 881 00:58:17,110 --> 00:58:20,309 I hate to probably help with the letters there, 882 00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:22,510 saying, hey, I didn't even go to a meeting 883 00:58:22,510 --> 00:58:26,079 and this is already how it's happening. 884 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:27,300 We shouldn't let this happen. 885 00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:31,039 We should definitely say, hey, look, don't do this. 886 00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:32,460 Okay? 887 00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:33,300 Yeah. 888 00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:35,289 Publicly as a push, 889 00:58:35,289 --> 00:58:37,809 you probably need to give a copy of the open meeting 890 00:58:37,809 --> 00:58:39,690 to every person you appoint. 891 00:58:39,690 --> 00:58:41,119 Yeah. 892 00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,739 We have some training coming up on it. 893 00:58:42,739 --> 00:58:44,820 A lot of those people have no idea. 894 00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:45,519 Right. 895 00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,860 I mean, we're familiar with it here 896 00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:49,659 because we live with it all the time. 897 00:58:49,659 --> 00:58:50,500 Yep. 898 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:51,619 But those people that say, 899 00:58:51,619 --> 00:58:53,400 yeah, I'm interested in the survey. 900 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,219 Yep. 901 00:58:54,219 --> 00:58:55,739 And don't have any idea what it should be. 902 00:58:55,739 --> 00:58:58,139 That's a good idea, that we can get that, 903 00:58:58,139 --> 00:58:59,900 hand that to them. 904 00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:04,099 Like I said, I'm not making accusations 905 00:59:04,099 --> 00:59:06,099 that they're doing it on purpose. 906 00:59:06,099 --> 00:59:07,300 They might not know. 907 00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:10,579 They might think, hey, I can go call people on the phone. 908 00:59:10,579 --> 00:59:11,480 I'm the chairman. 909 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,340 Yeah, tell them this is what we're doing. 910 00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:15,519 Chairman, Justin. 911 00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:19,820 In her case, she's a little bit more of a chair, 912 00:59:19,820 --> 00:59:23,699 but if you run this deep, 913 00:59:23,699 --> 00:59:26,489 other than that, we're all deepies. 914 00:59:26,489 --> 00:59:28,829 You know, although, I mean, 915 00:59:28,829 --> 00:59:31,489 she's got a little bit more information. 916 00:59:31,489 --> 00:59:32,389 Her file's there. 917 00:59:32,389 --> 00:59:34,389 Yeah, well, she's a good chair. 918 00:59:34,389 --> 00:59:35,429 I can't remember this. 919 00:59:35,429 --> 00:59:36,369 Right. 920 00:59:36,369 --> 00:59:37,530 But you know what I'm saying. 921 00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:39,630 I just, all kidding aside, 922 00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:42,210 I just would like to see things run smooth 923 00:59:42,210 --> 00:59:45,710 because nothing gets done if there's always, 924 00:59:45,710 --> 00:59:48,750 always arguing and wrenches getting thrown in the gears. 925 00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:51,550 This by-law thing, you guys work a long time on it. 926 00:59:51,550 --> 00:59:53,590 When there's wrenches getting thrown in the gears, 927 00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:56,590 and I'm not saying that you can't disagree, 928 00:59:56,590 --> 00:59:58,590 but you don't want that, you know, 929 00:59:58,590 --> 00:59:59,809 that's a lot of work, 930 00:59:59,809 --> 01:00:01,190 and there's a lot of work to be done. 931 01:00:01,190 --> 01:00:03,050 You look at this agenda tonight and I'm talking 932 01:00:03,050 --> 01:00:06,849 and Nancy's going, hurry up because we gotta get going. 933 01:00:06,849 --> 01:00:08,650 So, Laura, what do you have in, 934 01:00:08,650 --> 01:00:11,630 Laura, you said, talking the open meeting law to chairmen? 935 01:00:11,630 --> 01:00:14,829 Yeah, and I think that all the boards, 936 01:00:14,829 --> 01:00:15,769 well, not just chairmen, 937 01:00:15,769 --> 01:00:17,269 I think we can right from our office. 938 01:00:17,269 --> 01:00:19,480 Everybody who appointed, yeah. 939 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,639 So then I think all the boards should have language 940 01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:23,019 at the beginning of their meetings 941 01:00:23,019 --> 01:00:24,719 that are similar to what we use. 942 01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:27,380 Doug mentioned, too, 943 01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:29,860 that there's gonna be an open meeting training 944 01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:32,420 through VLCT on April 16th. 945 01:00:32,420 --> 01:00:33,260 Yeah. 946 01:00:35,260 --> 01:00:37,860 And you can do that here or on your own computer, right? 947 01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:39,559 It's free, this Monday, so. 948 01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:43,329 It's free, yeah, you can do it anywhere. 949 01:00:43,329 --> 01:00:45,090 Yeah, I was just gonna say the same thing. 950 01:00:45,090 --> 01:00:47,329 Like, I received an email from Laurie 951 01:00:47,329 --> 01:00:49,230 and I sent it to all of the board members, 952 01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:50,190 the planning commission members, 953 01:00:50,190 --> 01:00:52,170 to see who was interested in this 954 01:00:52,170 --> 01:00:54,230 and then I sent the response back to Laurie. 955 01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:56,809 I'm assuming she sent it to every chair on the board, 956 01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:59,409 so regardless if they wanna take the meeting or not, 957 01:00:59,409 --> 01:01:02,110 I mean, it's been presented, so kudos for that. 958 01:01:02,110 --> 01:01:03,150 I mean, even when they're free, 959 01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:05,909 I like coming here because it gets me out of work. 960 01:01:07,110 --> 01:01:09,150 No, but I'm not computer savvy. 961 01:01:09,150 --> 01:01:11,289 I screw up everything. 962 01:01:11,289 --> 01:01:14,510 Every time I touch something, so I have, they set it up, 963 01:01:14,510 --> 01:01:16,949 and there's more than one of us that, you know, 964 01:01:16,949 --> 01:01:19,190 curse on that computer savvy, right? 965 01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:22,260 I'm not, you know, we can sit here and watch it, 966 01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:26,760 and it's, it's, that's right, you know, so, I know. 967 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,920 Well, if there's a way to find out from Laurie, maybe, 968 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,199 like, I know that there wasn't really interest 969 01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:32,260 with the planning commission, right? 970 01:01:32,260 --> 01:01:33,099 Right. 971 01:01:33,099 --> 01:01:34,239 So, I'm gonna redo it, 972 01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:36,699 but if other people were going through it, I'm down. 973 01:01:36,699 --> 01:01:38,239 But I guess I don't know if other people are. 974 01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:40,880 Right, that's what I'm saying, if there's four of us. 975 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,699 Yes, if there's more people, it's more fun. 976 01:01:42,699 --> 01:01:43,539 It's easier. 977 01:01:44,579 --> 01:01:46,219 It's more fun, absolutely. 978 01:01:46,219 --> 01:01:48,960 She usually sets it up here, and she won't come. 979 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,179 I've been here alone with it. 980 01:01:51,179 --> 01:01:54,800 Yeah, we did it last year, it's the same one, right? 981 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,000 And there's always something, if you learn, 982 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,019 that you go, oh, I didn't know that. 983 01:01:59,019 --> 01:01:59,860 Absolutely. 984 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,590 Thank you, Mike. 985 01:02:04,590 --> 01:02:06,190 Okay, we're not done. 986 01:02:06,190 --> 01:02:12,309 Okay, Mike made a motion to sign this with the changes. 987 01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:13,130 Yes. 988 01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:13,969 Is there a second? 989 01:02:13,969 --> 01:02:14,809 I'll second. 990 01:02:14,809 --> 01:02:15,969 Is there a move-by right now? 991 01:02:15,969 --> 01:02:16,809 I'm sorry. 992 01:02:16,909 --> 01:02:17,750 Second. 993 01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:18,570 Second. 994 01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:19,409 Second. 995 01:02:19,409 --> 01:02:20,250 Yeah. 996 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:21,090 All in favor? 997 01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:21,909 Aye. 998 01:02:21,909 --> 01:02:22,909 Aye. 999 01:02:22,909 --> 01:02:23,750 Aye. 1000 01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:28,250 Okay, hang on, have two people have sent in letters 1001 01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:32,650 saying they were interested in an ethics investigator 1002 01:02:32,650 --> 01:02:37,360 in front of the pool. 1003 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,559 So next one is ethics. 1004 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:39,400 This one, you can throw away, 1005 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,199 you can just walk in and throw that away. 1006 01:02:41,199 --> 01:02:44,360 Ethics in front of the bank. 1007 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,199 Okay. 1008 01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:53,199 So, throw that one away, and then we'll be looking. 1009 01:02:53,340 --> 01:02:55,869 So, you're saying that this doesn't help. 1010 01:02:55,869 --> 01:03:22,780 Just bring it in the pool when we need it. 1011 01:03:22,780 --> 01:03:27,579 Or if someone files an ethics complaint against me or Jim. 1012 01:03:27,579 --> 01:03:29,090 Okay. 1013 01:03:29,090 --> 01:03:29,929 Just submit the letters. 1014 01:03:29,929 --> 01:03:33,179 So, right now, any police officers we have? 1015 01:03:33,179 --> 01:03:34,039 We have . 1016 01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:35,179 These are correctional officers. 1017 01:03:35,179 --> 01:03:36,139 They're not quite a police officer. 1018 01:03:36,139 --> 01:03:37,199 . 1019 01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:38,199 I'll call that. 1020 01:03:38,199 --> 01:03:39,079 No. 1021 01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:41,380 No. 1022 01:03:41,380 --> 01:03:43,860 That's a really good idea to have somebody 1023 01:03:43,860 --> 01:03:45,780 that's not involved in. 1024 01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:47,260 That's what I was hoping. 1025 01:03:47,260 --> 01:03:49,579 Yeah, I was kinda lost. 1026 01:03:49,579 --> 01:03:53,530 We would have, well, no, you're on the floor. 1027 01:03:53,530 --> 01:03:54,349 Everybody's on the floor. 1028 01:03:54,510 --> 01:03:58,039 You're on us because that's what you get when you're on us. 1029 01:03:58,039 --> 01:03:59,880 You're on us because that's what you get when you're on us. 1030 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:00,840 So right when you're on us. 1031 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,440 You're on Jim or Dad. 1032 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,940 They might as well be on us. 1033 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,699 Yeah, they are here on us. 1034 01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:10,119 No, I understand. 1035 01:04:10,730 --> 01:04:11,610 That's probably a complete. 1036 01:04:11,610 --> 01:04:14,559 You want to do it? 1037 01:04:25,949 --> 01:04:28,289 If you said it was Doug, I think Doug wants to be on. 1038 01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:35,250 Might it be against you, Doug? 1039 01:04:35,610 --> 01:04:36,679 Right. 1040 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,309 If it's against Dave, we'll use you, right? 1041 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,320 This is open. 1042 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:43,960 I want to check. 1043 01:04:44,739 --> 01:04:45,780 We could have more. 1044 01:04:46,780 --> 01:04:57,980 It's never an issue. 1045 01:04:58,179 --> 01:04:58,599 Hopefully there's. 1046 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,800 Hey, you can't just keep sending them in. 1047 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:06,360 Yeah, maybe. 1048 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:16,639 That's the ordinance. 1049 01:05:18,389 --> 01:05:19,269 Just as good as the office. 1050 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,739 I think we said, I said it just to you. 1051 01:05:22,239 --> 01:05:22,519 Oh. 1052 01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:24,679 We're waiting for a response and without. 1053 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,000 Oh, that's right. 1054 01:05:26,179 --> 01:05:26,480 Okay. 1055 01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:27,420 Oh, that's not. 1056 01:05:27,619 --> 01:05:28,579 I saw that. 1057 01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:37,980 Along with Doug's investigation. 1058 01:05:40,789 --> 01:05:42,710 Very well organized each step. 1059 01:05:43,329 --> 01:05:45,110 And it goes along with our ordinance. 1060 01:05:45,570 --> 01:05:48,809 So Lori will do this up. 1061 01:05:49,329 --> 01:05:49,730 Okay. 1062 01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:51,769 Send it to the rest of the board. 1063 01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:57,420 And go through the ordinance process. 1064 01:05:57,420 --> 01:06:00,780 It'll take probably 60 days. 1065 01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:02,159 80 days. 1066 01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:03,159 Sorry, Mike. 1067 01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:07,679 I'm okay with it. 1068 01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:08,679 I'm trying to get some stuff on. 1069 01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:10,869 80 days is nothing in this town. 1070 01:06:10,869 --> 01:06:11,869 We've been trying to put a sign up for. 1071 01:06:11,869 --> 01:06:12,869 I know. 1072 01:06:12,869 --> 01:06:14,280 Even in eight years now. 1073 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,280 No, it just isn't accurate. 1074 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,280 It's about seven and a half. 1075 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,280 Okay. 1076 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,280 Review and approve Doug. 1077 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,380 We're more hybrid reserve fund. 1078 01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:20,989 We went over them last week. 1079 01:06:20,989 --> 01:06:21,989 And Lori picked them up. 1080 01:06:21,989 --> 01:06:22,989 Very brief. 1081 01:06:22,989 --> 01:06:23,989 Very concise. 1082 01:06:23,989 --> 01:06:27,550 Just guidelines. 1083 01:06:27,550 --> 01:06:28,550 What we can use that fund for. 1084 01:06:28,550 --> 01:06:29,550 Have a motion to approve. 1085 01:06:29,550 --> 01:06:31,889 Second. 1086 01:06:31,889 --> 01:06:33,500 Second. 1087 01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:34,500 Second. 1088 01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:35,500 Second. 1089 01:06:35,500 --> 01:06:36,500 Second. 1090 01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:38,110 Second. 1091 01:06:38,110 --> 01:06:39,110 Second. 1092 01:06:39,110 --> 01:06:40,110 Second. 1093 01:06:40,110 --> 01:06:43,510 Second. 1094 01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:44,510 Second. 1095 01:06:44,510 --> 01:06:45,570 Second. 1096 01:06:45,570 --> 01:06:46,570 Second. 1097 01:06:46,570 --> 01:06:47,570 Second. 1098 01:06:47,570 --> 01:06:48,570 Second. 1099 01:06:48,570 --> 01:06:49,570 Second. 1100 01:06:49,570 --> 01:06:50,570 Second. 1101 01:06:50,570 --> 01:06:51,570 Second. 1102 01:06:51,570 --> 01:06:52,570 Second. 1103 01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:54,179 Second. 1104 01:06:54,179 --> 01:06:55,179 Second. 1105 01:06:55,179 --> 01:06:56,179 Second. 1106 01:06:56,179 --> 01:06:57,179 Second. 1107 01:06:57,179 --> 01:06:59,809 Second. 1108 01:06:59,809 --> 01:07:01,320 Second. 1109 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,159 Second. 1110 01:07:03,159 --> 01:07:04,159 Second. 1111 01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:05,159 Second. 1112 01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:08,300 Second. 1113 01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:09,909 Second. 1114 01:07:09,909 --> 01:07:10,909 Second. 1115 01:07:10,909 --> 01:07:16,800 Second. 1116 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:17,800 Second. 1117 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:18,800 Second. 1118 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,880 Second. 1119 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:23,880 Second. 1120 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,880 Second. 1121 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:25,880 Second. 1122 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,880 Second. 1123 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,880 Second. 1124 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,880 Second. 1125 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:40,880 owner says i can't afford it i'm not you know you know you can't do that 1126 01:07:40,880 --> 01:08:01,239 50 100 bucks and you say okay we'll fight it you know if they ignore it and months go on 1127 01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:13,000 we did send tickets to them but they paid the court system yeah 1128 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:21,239 i understand each person has a different story in their life when people are better off financially 1129 01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:26,680 than others i understand all that when you have them there's a responsibility 1130 01:08:27,699 --> 01:08:30,579 you don't pay for my children i don't want to pay for your daughter 1131 01:08:31,939 --> 01:08:33,140 and what happens is 1132 01:08:33,220 --> 01:08:39,939 we have people that it does it gets overwhelming and this case was a i understand i was compassionate 1133 01:08:39,939 --> 01:08:47,619 about it i didn't push the issue but we we got to be careful we can get in the high-end cost 1134 01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:57,119 that dog did someone or if that dog had rabies it would have worse you know it was relatively 1135 01:08:57,119 --> 01:09:05,189 safe at least you know it's something we ought to i agree with john as long as it's working 1136 01:09:05,270 --> 01:09:17,439 with our guidelines motion sign the guidelines for dispersing funds reserve funds 1137 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:19,840 all in favor aye 1138 01:09:21,939 --> 01:09:35,140 and speaking of dogs um the due date was the first about how many dogs are unregistered at this point 1139 01:09:36,340 --> 01:09:37,539 all of them 1140 01:09:37,539 --> 01:09:38,340 i'll give you an hundred six 1141 01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:39,840 Oh yeah 1142 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:40,819 you probably have a hundred registered 1143 01:09:40,819 --> 01:09:41,859 well we give a 100 if they want to register 1144 01:09:41,859 --> 01:09:42,420 we give a 100 if they want to register 1145 01:09:42,420 --> 01:09:42,659 we give a 10 if they want to register 1146 01:09:42,659 --> 01:09:42,739 we give a 10 if they want to register 1147 01:09:42,819 --> 01:09:48,680 So, we give a, what do you call it, a grace period. 1148 01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:52,640 That's why you're not, you know, people wait for the last bit of a lot of people. 1149 01:09:53,220 --> 01:09:57,279 One thing while you're speaking of dogs, I thought Deb would be here tonight. 1150 01:09:58,420 --> 01:10:04,619 Remember she talked to us the other day about bringing a dog to the vets out of town in Massachusetts? 1151 01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:05,380 Yeah. 1152 01:10:05,380 --> 01:10:17,279 And they give, even though her dog had rabies shots, had the paperwork, she brought her dog to the vets in Mass, and they gave the dog another shot. 1153 01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:26,079 So, we don't take that paperwork from Mass to give that dog another shot. 1154 01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:27,720 I'm pretty sure that's the right language. 1155 01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:36,100 Well, it had a valid rabies shot, but because it was exposed to the wild animal, they would not treat it without giving it another shot. 1156 01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:37,520 Which makes me wonder. 1157 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,600 I'm not sure if the shots are any better, good or not. 1158 01:10:41,119 --> 01:10:43,680 Kind of like other shots. 1159 01:10:44,609 --> 01:10:45,770 Sounds like that's what they said. 1160 01:10:46,939 --> 01:10:55,010 Well, what her thing was, what her thing was is, you might want to consider bringing your dog to the vets. 1161 01:10:55,010 --> 01:10:56,109 I'm not sure if that's the same case. 1162 01:10:58,569 --> 01:11:00,430 So, but she did mention it. 1163 01:11:00,869 --> 01:11:05,369 You have a technical shot and you get an accident, if you're in a home, if you're in a vets home. 1164 01:11:05,369 --> 01:11:06,470 If I say yes. 1165 01:11:07,289 --> 01:11:10,699 If I'm unconsciously, if I say no. 1166 01:11:10,699 --> 01:11:12,500 No, I don't. 1167 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,460 I don't have any clue about this, but it's just a thought. 1168 01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:25,720 When, once somebody registers a dog or dogs, whatever the case may be, at that point, can that just be added to their tax bill? 1169 01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:26,619 No? 1170 01:11:27,829 --> 01:11:29,710 It can't be a line item in the tax bill? 1171 01:11:29,949 --> 01:11:30,069 Yeah. 1172 01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:31,850 I was just curious. 1173 01:11:32,529 --> 01:11:33,710 Yeah, it would make sense, wouldn't it? 1174 01:11:35,380 --> 01:11:40,619 In our situation in terms of the vets, we're closer to the veterinarians in Massachusetts. 1175 01:11:40,899 --> 01:11:41,180 Sure. 1176 01:11:41,180 --> 01:11:43,539 You know, so it makes sense for everybody in town to go. 1177 01:11:43,539 --> 01:11:45,960 So, you know, well, it was just something she mentioned. 1178 01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:47,479 I don't have dogs. 1179 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:49,359 Where's the next one? 1180 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,779 No, Anthony, that's like, yeah, 35 minutes. 1181 01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:52,359 Yeah. 1182 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,380 That's where I go. 1183 01:11:54,699 --> 01:11:58,079 So, what's our next step in our dog ordinance? 1184 01:11:58,300 --> 01:11:58,460 I do. 1185 01:11:59,380 --> 01:12:06,800 I would have to wait until May 1st or September sometime before you can turn it over to the dog officer. 1186 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:13,420 And sometimes you want me to send out reminders at that point instead of just turning it over to them. 1187 01:12:14,109 --> 01:12:16,729 So, could you send out reminders now? 1188 01:12:17,010 --> 01:12:20,630 They are late now, so send out the reminders. 1189 01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:22,949 Because it all comes off the computer. 1190 01:12:23,149 --> 01:12:24,810 Your dog needs a shot. 1191 01:12:25,970 --> 01:12:27,430 The computer knows it all now. 1192 01:12:29,109 --> 01:12:34,060 Yeah, if you can send it out, maybe 10 will come in. 1193 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:44,210 We got it. 1194 01:12:44,569 --> 01:12:50,970 Okay, review and adopt transfer station monitor job description. 1195 01:12:51,149 --> 01:12:52,979 Ah, it's going to be hard. 1196 01:12:52,979 --> 01:12:58,000 So, we went over this at the last meeting. 1197 01:12:58,819 --> 01:13:03,550 Everything good with it, so we could approve it and sign it. 1198 01:13:03,909 --> 01:13:06,310 Well, Lori, could you put the signature statement? 1199 01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:08,510 I didn't do it on the town and town descriptions. 1200 01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:09,250 I guess I will. 1201 01:13:09,529 --> 01:13:09,729 Yeah. 1202 01:13:10,909 --> 01:13:13,810 I'm going to just wait until next week and sign it. 1203 01:13:13,930 --> 01:13:14,390 Sign it. 1204 01:13:15,210 --> 01:13:16,770 Unless you have a change for me. 1205 01:13:17,670 --> 01:13:18,970 No, I have no change. 1206 01:13:19,909 --> 01:13:20,689 I'll read it. 1207 01:13:20,909 --> 01:13:21,430 Okay. 1208 01:13:23,029 --> 01:13:29,579 Review and adopt road commissioner job description. 1209 01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:31,810 Make them look. 1210 01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:33,949 I didn't see my driveway. 1211 01:13:36,069 --> 01:13:37,149 That's one change. 1212 01:13:37,149 --> 01:13:37,869 Drive me enough. 1213 01:13:38,869 --> 01:13:40,329 That's how he keeps his job. 1214 01:13:40,449 --> 01:13:41,609 I'm going to bring your driveway up. 1215 01:13:42,090 --> 01:13:44,789 I am. 1216 01:13:45,529 --> 01:13:56,489 We've got backside number 11 to the sidewalks when practical. 1217 01:13:57,069 --> 01:14:01,310 Should we add sidewalks to the second paragraph on the first page? 1218 01:14:01,949 --> 01:14:07,770 Is the road commissioner responsible to oversee the condition of the town road, school parking lot, firehouse, 1219 01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:11,829 parking lot, town yard, recycling area, and sidewalks? 1220 01:14:11,829 --> 01:14:15,689 You're responsible for the sidewalks here. 1221 01:14:16,689 --> 01:14:18,109 He's dying. 1222 01:14:19,819 --> 01:14:24,819 That was part of the grant. 1223 01:14:25,220 --> 01:14:25,460 Yep. 1224 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,619 I get it. 1225 01:14:27,619 --> 01:14:29,720 How do you do the sidewalk? 1226 01:14:30,539 --> 01:14:32,050 Do you have a snowboard? 1227 01:14:32,329 --> 01:14:32,550 No. 1228 01:14:32,970 --> 01:14:44,090 So I was asked a while back about an old sidewalk that even existed on the north side of the road. 1229 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:45,659 I said that. 1230 01:14:45,659 --> 01:14:46,619 I got tired of it. 1231 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:46,920 Okay. 1232 01:14:47,220 --> 01:14:50,340 There's someone said that the sidewalks are popping up. 1233 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:50,659 Yeah. 1234 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:51,380 And that wasn't. 1235 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,340 That the lady that walks all the time, I guess, goes to the lady. 1236 01:14:55,340 --> 01:15:02,119 This is not a town sidewalk. 1237 01:15:02,500 --> 01:15:02,720 Yeah. 1238 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:03,960 Next door to you, though. 1239 01:15:04,949 --> 01:15:06,350 The other lady that walks. 1240 01:15:06,609 --> 01:15:06,829 Yeah. 1241 01:15:11,899 --> 01:15:12,239 To me? 1242 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:12,880 No, no. 1243 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,479 Oh, next door. 1244 01:15:13,819 --> 01:15:14,300 To your neighbor. 1245 01:15:14,819 --> 01:15:15,659 Your neighbor. 1246 01:15:15,899 --> 01:15:17,920 I mean, there is buried sidewalk there. 1247 01:15:18,079 --> 01:15:18,260 Yeah. 1248 01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:18,680 I don't. 1249 01:15:18,859 --> 01:15:19,000 I couldn't. 1250 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,539 I didn't do this. 1251 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:20,920 No. 1252 01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:21,739 I thought I was. 1253 01:15:22,739 --> 01:15:24,859 Should the state address that? 1254 01:15:24,859 --> 01:15:25,180 Yeah. 1255 01:15:25,180 --> 01:15:25,399 There is. 1256 01:15:25,460 --> 01:15:26,020 It's a pop-up. 1257 01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:27,539 We bought it for whatever it was. 1258 01:15:28,090 --> 01:15:28,369 Okay. 1259 01:15:29,010 --> 01:15:30,670 I mean, hey, it's not my house. 1260 01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:31,569 It's just going to go right. 1261 01:15:31,689 --> 01:15:32,890 It's not existing. 1262 01:15:35,020 --> 01:15:35,279 Yeah. 1263 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,319 It was a sidewalk. 1264 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,239 We were at the sidewalk. 1265 01:15:41,069 --> 01:15:43,670 The sidewalk was all the way down to Grant. 1266 01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:45,210 And it was the entire sidewalk. 1267 01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:47,069 It was run over for so long. 1268 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:48,149 People didn't know it was there. 1269 01:15:48,310 --> 01:15:48,510 Right. 1270 01:15:49,090 --> 01:15:50,550 You can see it in the old photo. 1271 01:15:52,579 --> 01:15:53,220 It was the entire sidewalk. 1272 01:15:53,260 --> 01:15:53,439 Yeah. 1273 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,439 I mean, if it was me, I'd go out there with my back over it. 1274 01:15:56,020 --> 01:15:58,579 Then the guy from the state would stop and make a one-man deal. 1275 01:15:59,090 --> 01:16:00,270 One-man over it. 1276 01:16:01,380 --> 01:16:02,119 It was the next time. 1277 01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:02,560 Yeah. 1278 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:02,579 Yeah. 1279 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,119 Lori, I think it was an old number nine that we didn't put in the new. 1280 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:08,039 Old number nine. 1281 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:09,460 Old number nine. 1282 01:16:10,649 --> 01:16:11,329 Old number nine. 1283 01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:14,449 So I poured too long and short rain to make it thin. 1284 01:16:14,909 --> 01:16:19,029 Can we take that out and we review this today? 1285 01:16:19,449 --> 01:16:19,890 No. 1286 01:16:21,029 --> 01:16:22,189 Can you show me how to add that? 1287 01:16:22,789 --> 01:16:23,369 Add it in? 1288 01:16:23,829 --> 01:16:24,550 Add it in. 1289 01:16:24,909 --> 01:16:25,210 Okay. 1290 01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:26,939 Okay. 1291 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:37,819 So is it okay to add the sidewalk to that first paragraph? 1292 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:39,920 Yeah. 1293 01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:41,100 I don't see there's no sidewalk. 1294 01:16:41,359 --> 01:16:43,000 We need to talk about it. 1295 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:43,739 No one would know. 1296 01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:45,340 I would keep it on there. 1297 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,220 So can I have a motion to it? 1298 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,359 Oh, John, you had something about this too, didn't you? 1299 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,039 The road commissioner? 1300 01:16:51,939 --> 01:16:54,539 Are you putting the lawn? 1301 01:16:55,260 --> 01:16:55,619 Yeah. 1302 01:16:57,699 --> 01:16:58,319 Lawn is good. 1303 01:16:59,699 --> 01:17:02,680 Well, I just kind of was hoping to get the lawn fixed. 1304 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:10,289 So it wasn't a $500 or $750 bill to the town every year. 1305 01:17:10,289 --> 01:17:10,369 Yeah. 1306 01:17:11,819 --> 01:17:14,640 Dave expresses concern that he didn't. 1307 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,939 He didn't really have time to do it. 1308 01:17:15,939 --> 01:17:17,199 He was concerned about the roads. 1309 01:17:19,159 --> 01:17:21,819 And I'm going to do it. 1310 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,979 And I'm going to make $500 so I'm not complaining. 1311 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:29,920 But in the same aspect, it's probably going to take me a couple hours, two, three-hour stops. 1312 01:17:30,970 --> 01:17:40,550 So if that's something that I'll let the board agree on throwing in on this plate for the following year, I make a motion. 1313 01:17:42,199 --> 01:17:47,260 It was always done before by previous road crew. 1314 01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:47,460 Okay. 1315 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:49,510 And then, like you said, 1316 01:17:49,789 --> 01:17:54,810 the janitor took it over here just because he liked doing it. 1317 01:17:56,039 --> 01:18:04,520 Well, one of the things I was thinking when I read that e-mail was I'd rather see the janitor than the road crew do it. 1318 01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:06,079 So I did the numbers. 1319 01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:06,739 It's $500. 1320 01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:14,890 We can't look at it as what it costs when we pay someone. 1321 01:18:14,890 --> 01:18:18,289 If we pay a person $30, now we get an insurance, blah, blah, blah. 1322 01:18:18,689 --> 01:18:21,210 Let's just say it's $40, $45 now. 1323 01:18:21,329 --> 01:18:24,770 $50 an hour, that's not going to cost the town. 1324 01:18:24,890 --> 01:18:29,810 That means that it's $50 an hour, and whatever you're not doing, that's $50 an hour. 1325 01:18:29,949 --> 01:18:30,890 It's like a business. 1326 01:18:31,609 --> 01:18:39,130 Just like you were saying, if you're working on your truck, broke down, you're not selling firewood anymore, you double what that means. 1327 01:18:39,909 --> 01:18:45,350 So when you look at it like that, the town, what we pay a person is not what it costs the town. 1328 01:18:45,489 --> 01:18:46,710 It costs a lot more than that. 1329 01:18:47,329 --> 01:18:50,289 And not to say you can't do it. 1330 01:18:50,289 --> 01:18:51,289 I mean, you probably can't. 1331 01:18:51,390 --> 01:18:52,090 You probably have time. 1332 01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:55,250 This goes back, and I can get deep into this, too. 1333 01:18:55,329 --> 01:18:56,609 It goes back to that third guy. 1334 01:18:57,029 --> 01:19:01,430 Would it justify having a third guy if we did something like that, too, and got more jobs? 1335 01:19:01,930 --> 01:19:05,909 I really think we should dig into that some more at a different time. 1336 01:19:06,590 --> 01:19:08,630 Because there's a lot to it. 1337 01:19:09,250 --> 01:19:13,449 There's timelines that are coming up. 1338 01:19:14,710 --> 01:19:20,939 But you look at what you're charging, John, if you have four hours and $500, right? 1339 01:19:21,739 --> 01:19:28,569 Or $125 an hour, that's a good price for a lot of scale. 1340 01:19:29,229 --> 01:19:29,569 Yeah. 1341 01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:33,109 If I pay him, I might save some. 1342 01:19:35,109 --> 01:19:44,989 If they fall behind on their other work, and I said they would, but if they did, and we had to hire a guy out to come and do some of the work, 1343 01:19:45,229 --> 01:19:47,470 grade the road or whatever, it would cost more. 1344 01:19:48,050 --> 01:19:49,390 It's not a bad. 1345 01:19:49,869 --> 01:19:52,930 I think it's really a good number. 1346 01:19:53,310 --> 01:19:56,510 We're paying for our bucket, $500, to do that. 1347 01:19:57,109 --> 01:20:03,289 On the other hand is, I look at the janitor, and I know that our other janitor was superman to get that. 1348 01:20:04,829 --> 01:20:14,670 If you look at what the janitor does and what the school is responsible for, it wouldn't be a bad idea to talk to the school somewhere and say, 1349 01:20:14,750 --> 01:20:19,390 would you like to suck up, not the lawnmower, but help us out with the driveway. 1350 01:20:19,869 --> 01:20:21,010 We bought a driveway. 1351 01:20:21,609 --> 01:20:22,770 We maintain everything. 1352 01:20:22,989 --> 01:20:23,529 We solve that. 1353 01:20:23,630 --> 01:20:24,829 We're here first thing in the morning. 1354 01:20:25,010 --> 01:20:28,510 Can you help us out with cleaning it up and have the janitor do it? 1355 01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:30,430 I think it reflects on the school. 1356 01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:36,810 You see, a school yard like this, because right now, without a sign, nobody knows this is the town of property. 1357 01:20:37,029 --> 01:20:38,010 It's called the school yard. 1358 01:20:38,029 --> 01:20:40,329 He's got all he can do to get the snowmobile correctly. 1359 01:20:40,789 --> 01:20:41,250 I don't. 1360 01:20:41,430 --> 01:20:41,890 I don't. 1361 01:20:42,050 --> 01:20:51,899 And again, if I was just a hiring authority with the janitor, I would have the non-discipline. 1362 01:20:51,899 --> 01:20:53,500 I still have to do this. 1363 01:20:53,539 --> 01:20:54,420 They have not seen. 1364 01:20:55,420 --> 01:20:57,380 We've asked the school many a times. 1365 01:20:58,020 --> 01:21:01,380 The board and the principal, and I don't know who's in charge. 1366 01:21:01,939 --> 01:21:07,239 But when you would ask and say, what's the description of a janitor, and they don't give you that, 1367 01:21:07,460 --> 01:21:12,140 and then if it's just sleep in the floor, whatever he's getting paid, I'll sleep in the floor. 1368 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,689 I'm down here anyway. 1369 01:21:16,109 --> 01:21:17,590 I don't work. 1370 01:21:17,970 --> 01:21:19,770 It's a little tangled, you know, et cetera. 1371 01:21:20,539 --> 01:21:22,239 Jobs belong to the school janitor. 1372 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,279 I know. 1373 01:21:23,739 --> 01:21:24,600 And that's what I'm saying. 1374 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:25,220 It is a morning. 1375 01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:26,199 I'm starting to go. 1376 01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:26,840 I know. 1377 01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:29,840 But it seems to me that the guy's making $20.90. 1378 01:21:30,220 --> 01:21:33,319 He's got an hour over there, and he's got extra time during the day. 1379 01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:34,079 He's only part-time. 1380 01:21:34,699 --> 01:21:35,819 He leaves and comes back. 1381 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:43,319 When he has to stop all the way at a time, right, why can't he have someone come up there for two days in a row 1382 01:21:43,319 --> 01:21:46,939 and clean it up, even if he did it 20 minutes a day? 1383 01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:47,439 Right. 1384 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,340 You don't get around to having that meeting with the school janitor. 1385 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,279 Understand. 1386 01:21:53,819 --> 01:21:54,220 Understand. 1387 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,600 It's nice to get outside when you're away from all those janitorial things. 1388 01:21:58,779 --> 01:22:00,380 Well, I understand what you're saying, Bill. 1389 01:22:00,380 --> 01:22:00,760 It is. 1390 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,399 It's a place. 1391 01:22:01,619 --> 01:22:02,340 But in this. 1392 01:22:02,659 --> 01:22:06,039 Part of the discussion of these guys, I think it's a better idea. 1393 01:22:07,029 --> 01:22:09,350 We've already got some doing it now. 1394 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:15,329 But in the future, if we're going to change that, it's more not just a school board. 1395 01:22:15,449 --> 01:22:16,609 We should be talking about it. 1396 01:22:16,609 --> 01:22:18,789 It should be that joint meeting that we're supposed to be having. 1397 01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:27,710 I mean, even if it was in the job description, we're going to put it out today. 1398 01:22:28,109 --> 01:22:32,350 Just like John has said, it's hard to get someone to do the snowballing. 1399 01:22:32,649 --> 01:22:33,810 You've got to argue with someone. 1400 01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:35,229 It's everywhere. 1401 01:22:35,829 --> 01:22:36,649 Every labor. 1402 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,699 I just like to say in the springtime, it's overwhelming. 1403 01:22:42,319 --> 01:22:49,069 Your slow time is summer, if there is a slow time. 1404 01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:54,270 Once I get all the green done, and then with this kind of ditching and putting colors in, I have to mow. 1405 01:22:54,670 --> 01:22:56,390 I mean, it's just, it's not renting. 1406 01:22:56,550 --> 01:23:04,229 And I think if you ask people, I think they're probably a lot happier seeing me fixing the roads than they would be down. 1407 01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:12,229 I mean, if I left County Road the way it was a couple days ago, and you saw me down here fixing the lawn, I'd probably not be happy about that. 1408 01:23:12,590 --> 01:23:12,989 Yeah. 1409 01:23:13,250 --> 01:23:20,140 Yeah, how come all these people live on a mountain and all of a sudden? 1410 01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:21,539 Cheese. 1411 01:23:21,819 --> 01:23:22,359 Well, yeah. 1412 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,319 Cooked cheese. 1413 01:23:24,460 --> 01:23:25,479 What's the... 1414 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:26,319 All the cheese. 1415 01:23:27,859 --> 01:23:29,699 So what do we do in the job description? 1416 01:23:29,859 --> 01:23:31,539 Are we going to accept it like this? 1417 01:23:32,729 --> 01:23:36,329 You know, there's just so much more than the line years ago. 1418 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:39,029 I don't know how many more grants we have. 1419 01:23:39,029 --> 01:23:43,760 We try to keep track of all the stuff and try to fill them out. 1420 01:23:43,779 --> 01:23:44,279 Okay, Lord. 1421 01:23:44,939 --> 01:23:45,659 All that stuff. 1422 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,180 All that stuff that goes on that I do now, that I didn't do when I started here. 1423 01:23:50,630 --> 01:23:56,390 The repair work and maintenance of the equipment that I know got hired out before. 1424 01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,090 Like, I do a huge amount of that. 1425 01:24:01,289 --> 01:24:02,329 And that, exactly. 1426 01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:03,229 I know you disagree. 1427 01:24:03,609 --> 01:24:08,239 I don't know if you disagree with me today, but we've all had a little bit about this. 1428 01:24:08,399 --> 01:24:12,020 The third conversation we need to talk about. 1429 01:24:12,369 --> 01:24:13,970 Well, we've got to start somewhere. 1430 01:24:14,250 --> 01:24:16,890 But if that's hard, we need to explore the page. 1431 01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:17,970 Does that make sense? 1432 01:24:18,970 --> 01:24:19,189 Yeah. 1433 01:24:20,729 --> 01:24:21,390 Even if we... 1434 01:24:22,050 --> 01:24:26,670 Hey, you're not going to be here for it, okay? 1435 01:24:27,250 --> 01:24:32,729 In the future of the town, we need to look in the future and say... 1436 01:24:32,729 --> 01:24:34,569 Because I know what it takes to train someone. 1437 01:24:35,229 --> 01:24:40,630 In my field, it takes two to three years to even understand the business. 1438 01:24:41,260 --> 01:24:43,060 So, you're going to say the same thing. 1439 01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:45,600 It's not about calling a rope. 1440 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:46,899 It's about everything else. 1441 01:24:47,220 --> 01:24:48,600 You have to train this guy. 1442 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,840 And it takes baby steps. 1443 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,239 Years, not months. 1444 01:24:52,659 --> 01:24:52,979 I mean... 1445 01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:56,050 Working on the roads is the most important thing. 1446 01:24:56,170 --> 01:24:57,710 Obviously, that's what you're supposed to do. 1447 01:24:58,220 --> 01:25:01,470 The equipment has to be run for me to do that. 1448 01:25:01,630 --> 01:25:06,029 And I can tell you that now, the way things are nowadays, it's like daily. 1449 01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:12,439 And when we have enough equipment, there's always something that's in there getting something done. 1450 01:25:12,939 --> 01:25:15,079 You could almost have a guy stay back at the... 1451 01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:15,560 Yeah. 1452 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:21,869 I mean, in fact, when Alan worked for the company, he did stay back. 1453 01:25:21,949 --> 01:25:23,829 There's things that just never get done. 1454 01:25:23,829 --> 01:25:28,609 There's always mandate patches on plows, and they never kind of get painted. 1455 01:25:28,850 --> 01:25:29,489 Because in the spring... 1456 01:25:29,569 --> 01:25:36,899 I mean, when you do that in normal highway departments, at a pay road, you know, they're in the garage, they're not ready to get paint in there. 1457 01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:37,520 Yeah. 1458 01:25:37,619 --> 01:25:37,939 Wow. 1459 01:25:38,119 --> 01:25:40,180 And I'm not trying to keep the town together. 1460 01:25:42,380 --> 01:25:43,699 There's a big difference. 1461 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,319 If we know of anybody that wants to work for the town. 1462 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,000 I know people, but they're going to want as much as I get in an hour of work. 1463 01:25:53,279 --> 01:25:56,880 One of the things we should advertise, we don't have to hire. 1464 01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:00,270 We're putting it out there. 1465 01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:05,210 We're actually looking around the school site. 1466 01:26:06,579 --> 01:26:13,250 And yet, I understand wages is plus-up. 1467 01:26:13,250 --> 01:26:15,369 This is paid based on experience. 1468 01:26:15,670 --> 01:26:15,930 Yeah. 1469 01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:16,930 It's a plus-up. 1470 01:26:17,109 --> 01:26:19,989 Give them a 60-day trial period. 1471 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,939 Just hire somebody for like half-time for now, wouldn't that? 1472 01:26:24,659 --> 01:26:24,939 Yeah. 1473 01:26:24,939 --> 01:26:25,520 It's a device. 1474 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:26,680 I mean, I've done that. 1475 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,220 Part-time. 1476 01:26:27,460 --> 01:26:29,739 It was kind of, you know, I had part-time people in the summer. 1477 01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:33,220 And yeah, you walk out every now and then. 1478 01:26:33,500 --> 01:26:35,699 But even running them over is not... 1479 01:26:36,859 --> 01:26:37,000 Right. 1480 01:26:37,220 --> 01:26:38,439 You know, you're always searching for music. 1481 01:26:38,779 --> 01:26:38,939 You know? 1482 01:26:39,539 --> 01:26:42,109 I'm not going to tolerate some of it. 1483 01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:42,609 Huh? 1484 01:26:43,930 --> 01:26:47,649 But it's something, it's a discussion that I think we should look into deeper. 1485 01:26:47,789 --> 01:26:48,810 We've talked about it before. 1486 01:26:48,890 --> 01:26:49,850 You've tried it before. 1487 01:26:50,630 --> 01:26:52,869 You know, I'm not saying it didn't work. 1488 01:26:52,970 --> 01:26:54,489 It probably worked to a point. 1489 01:26:54,729 --> 01:26:56,810 You know, maybe it doesn't have 70% work. 1490 01:26:57,449 --> 01:26:58,130 We have to... 1491 01:26:58,750 --> 01:27:01,130 I think it's a good thing to look out. 1492 01:27:01,449 --> 01:27:01,890 There's... 1493 01:27:01,890 --> 01:27:04,090 Maybe the right person will come on. 1494 01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:05,710 Losses and minuses. 1495 01:27:05,850 --> 01:27:08,430 And I obviously put a lot of thought into it. 1496 01:27:09,050 --> 01:27:10,090 I mean, minimum... 1497 01:27:10,770 --> 01:27:13,449 It's going to cost you $100,000 a year to have an employee. 1498 01:27:16,060 --> 01:27:19,659 I feel like if we had a paving loan of $100,000 a year, 1499 01:27:20,539 --> 01:27:23,319 that would cut down where we would need that employee. 1500 01:27:23,579 --> 01:27:26,359 And then, you know, quality of life. 1501 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:31,840 There's so many benefits to starting to do something different. 1502 01:27:32,199 --> 01:27:33,859 I'm looking a little deeper into it. 1503 01:27:33,979 --> 01:27:37,800 I'm looking 10 years from now, where we at. 1504 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:38,760 You're going to be gone. 1505 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,300 Yeah, I'm going to leave tomorrow. 1506 01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,000 Right. 1507 01:27:41,300 --> 01:27:43,340 We're lucky we found that you are in. 1508 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:44,239 I was looking into it. 1509 01:27:44,739 --> 01:27:45,159 You're helpful. 1510 01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:50,239 Yeah, part of the job is you have to be able to show up within a half hour or something like that. 1511 01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:51,340 Well, I think that's... 1512 01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:53,140 Dave looks 15 minutes up the road. 1513 01:27:54,319 --> 01:27:56,000 I think that's going to be a big problem. 1514 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:57,960 It's one of those jobs. 1515 01:27:59,899 --> 01:28:01,779 I think that's going to be a big problem. 1516 01:28:01,779 --> 01:28:07,630 Like in my shoes, both of them to me. 1517 01:28:08,069 --> 01:28:11,029 I'm the one that has to basically be away. 1518 01:28:14,229 --> 01:28:15,109 It's my responsibility. 1519 01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:18,159 I have to know what the other is going to do. 1520 01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:21,979 I mean, I can't just go to sleep at 7 or 8 o'clock at night. 1521 01:28:22,420 --> 01:28:26,819 I'm going to be freezing to death at 9 o'clock, even if I was on the road at 3 o'clock in the morning. 1522 01:28:27,970 --> 01:28:34,890 So I think that's going to be one of those things where you're going to need extra people just because nobody's going to want to do it. 1523 01:28:35,010 --> 01:28:37,869 It really is. 1524 01:28:38,369 --> 01:28:40,029 Well, that's where we were kind of... 1525 01:28:40,029 --> 01:28:45,789 I don't know if everybody else agrees with that, but you're in a position where you've got the gears in, and you know what's going on. 1526 01:28:46,090 --> 01:28:53,939 You can almost step back, take a little bit of weight off your shoulders, put it on somebody else's shoulders, tell them, go do this. 1527 01:28:54,359 --> 01:28:55,539 You've got to go do that. 1528 01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:56,449 Yeah. 1529 01:28:56,449 --> 01:28:57,029 You've got to do that. 1530 01:28:57,029 --> 01:28:57,569 You've got to do that. 1531 01:28:57,729 --> 01:28:58,770 Yeah, it's hard to do that. 1532 01:28:58,770 --> 01:28:58,970 It's hard to do that. 1533 01:28:58,970 --> 01:29:00,569 You do the great stuff. 1534 01:29:00,949 --> 01:29:04,109 I can retire. 1535 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,020 I can retire. 1536 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:16,279 I trust you. 1537 01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:17,869 Now. 1538 01:29:18,329 --> 01:29:20,029 I've got to go check and see how it's going. 1539 01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:21,859 It's hard to do that. 1540 01:29:23,710 --> 01:29:25,210 But there's... 1541 01:29:25,210 --> 01:29:26,329 You know, and I don't... 1542 01:29:26,329 --> 01:29:29,199 This is a discussion that gets us down. 1543 01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:34,739 I don't know how I feel about your second command and so on. 1544 01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:38,539 Like, if you want to do something, you say, okay, I'm going to... 1545 01:29:38,539 --> 01:29:41,510 You're responsible for this other guy we just had. 1546 01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:42,510 You got to let... 1547 01:29:42,609 --> 01:29:43,369 It's hard. 1548 01:29:43,729 --> 01:29:46,670 But 10 years from now, you're going to go... 1549 01:29:46,670 --> 01:29:47,890 You're like, you're really... 1550 01:29:47,890 --> 01:29:51,090 Not that you don't care, but it's not your responsibility anymore. 1551 01:29:51,699 --> 01:29:54,760 Now, we still have to have somebody that will let it go, too. 1552 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:58,680 It would be nice if we could train somebody in a position. 1553 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,760 I disagree with you. 1554 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:07,619 I think the job needs to be... 1555 01:30:07,619 --> 01:30:09,659 Well, I'm afforded pay for that. 1556 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:10,319 You know that. 1557 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:11,659 I know it's in front of money. 1558 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,119 It's going to be hard to get people on board with it. 1559 01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:19,270 I can just see the writing on the wall. 1560 01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:26,300 It's one of those things that will prevent a lot of them from showing up. 1561 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:33,220 Well, that could be a problem. 1562 01:30:33,359 --> 01:30:34,560 That could be our future. 1563 01:30:34,699 --> 01:30:35,720 That's what I don't like. 1564 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:36,039 No. 1565 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:37,960 All this could happen. 1566 01:30:38,199 --> 01:30:38,340 Yeah. 1567 01:30:38,399 --> 01:30:41,600 We could get to a point where we go, we can't find them anymore. 1568 01:30:42,649 --> 01:30:43,569 You know, now what? 1569 01:30:43,890 --> 01:30:45,029 Up to the break, people. 1570 01:30:45,229 --> 01:30:47,619 I mean, how much money can you make right now? 1571 01:30:47,779 --> 01:30:48,000 Who's up? 1572 01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:50,359 I'm an orange maker. 1573 01:30:50,739 --> 01:30:52,300 I'll tell you that I've had... 1574 01:30:52,939 --> 01:30:58,020 It's got to be more than someone that's into it. 1575 01:30:59,470 --> 01:31:01,010 You have to travel. 1576 01:31:02,659 --> 01:31:03,020 Yeah. 1577 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:04,939 Double the money. 1578 01:31:04,939 --> 01:31:05,680 One of the... 1579 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:05,819 One of the... 1580 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:18,689 That's the part that a lot of people have to do this in the future. 1581 01:31:18,949 --> 01:31:19,170 Correct. 1582 01:31:19,250 --> 01:31:22,390 We say to the contractor, follow me with only two inches of snow. 1583 01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:24,750 Well, at Margo, she's got six inches of snow. 1584 01:31:24,750 --> 01:31:25,710 Do they know this? 1585 01:31:26,069 --> 01:31:27,529 Do they know the individual? 1586 01:31:29,529 --> 01:31:31,310 Like Mike was saying, it takes years. 1587 01:31:33,039 --> 01:31:37,359 It takes years to find somebody that's invested in it. 1588 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:39,159 Yeah. 1589 01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:40,979 It needs to be someone that's really... 1590 01:31:40,979 --> 01:31:41,500 Can we move on? 1591 01:31:41,500 --> 01:31:45,039 Can we move on? 1592 01:31:45,039 --> 01:31:49,710 The job description road commissioner to... 1593 01:31:49,710 --> 01:31:52,460 Motion to accept. 1594 01:31:53,390 --> 01:31:53,670 Second. 1595 01:31:54,109 --> 01:31:54,710 All in favor? 1596 01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:57,119 With the sidewalk putting it on. 1597 01:32:05,859 --> 01:32:08,520 Job description for highway department labor. 1598 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:13,439 Basically, it's the same as Dave's job. 1599 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,220 Any reports to Dave? 1600 01:32:15,619 --> 01:32:17,859 Do you have to put anything in there for a sidewalk panel? 1601 01:32:18,140 --> 01:32:18,340 No. 1602 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:18,800 Okay. 1603 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:19,659 Motion to accept. 1604 01:32:20,460 --> 01:32:21,060 Second. 1605 01:32:22,510 --> 01:32:23,109 All in favor? 1606 01:32:23,529 --> 01:32:24,010 All in favor. 1607 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:32,619 Can you get in your rhythm? 1608 01:32:32,619 --> 01:32:33,500 I want you to go... 1609 01:32:33,659 --> 01:32:35,500 Go quick and also I can justify... 1610 01:32:37,069 --> 01:32:40,239 Review invitation to Merck garage. 1611 01:32:46,029 --> 01:32:52,859 So, you should all have that invitation to get into the public grade. 1612 01:32:55,489 --> 01:32:58,090 Dave took a look at it, gave me the measurements. 1613 01:32:58,569 --> 01:33:02,050 We added a no-control door opener to it. 1614 01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:08,250 I guess my question to you is how are the dates? 1615 01:33:08,909 --> 01:33:12,449 We have it in the box, but I don't know if you have it. 1616 01:33:12,449 --> 01:33:13,130 Thank you, sir. 1617 01:33:14,510 --> 01:33:17,050 We're completed by September 15th. 1618 01:33:17,069 --> 01:33:24,069 The grant actually gives us until December 20th, 2026. 1619 01:33:24,069 --> 01:33:27,960 Dave's hoping to get it done this summer. 1620 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,960 Right. 1621 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,859 Do you have any events back in? 1622 01:33:31,859 --> 01:33:32,859 No. 1623 01:33:32,859 --> 01:33:33,859 Right. 1624 01:33:33,859 --> 01:33:34,859 Well, that's all right. 1625 01:33:34,859 --> 01:33:36,239 I don't... 1626 01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:37,239 You can always change this later, but we didn't get anybody here. 1627 01:33:37,239 --> 01:33:38,239 Is that right? 1628 01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:39,239 Yeah. 1629 01:33:39,239 --> 01:33:40,239 Just put your time on it. 1630 01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:41,239 If you get it done this year, it's going to benefit us. 1631 01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:42,239 I'll go along with this. 1632 01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:43,779 April 17th, we'll put it on. 1633 01:33:43,779 --> 01:33:44,779 All right. 1634 01:33:44,779 --> 01:33:45,779 Thank you. 1635 01:33:45,779 --> 01:33:48,100 Thank you. 1636 01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:49,100 Thank you. 1637 01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:50,100 Thank you. 1638 01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:51,100 Thank you. 1639 01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:52,100 Thank you. 1640 01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:54,149 Thank you. 1641 01:33:54,149 --> 01:33:55,149 I guess there's still a... 1642 01:33:55,149 --> 01:34:00,180 I mean, we've got national forest coming and... 1643 01:34:00,180 --> 01:34:05,180 Yeah, if we wanna wait until your first meeting, we're just open the . 1644 01:34:05,180 --> 01:34:06,180 And you know . 1645 01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:07,340 What about .. 1646 01:34:09,020 --> 01:34:14,020 I typically hire ... die stage. 1647 01:34:14,020 --> 01:34:23,550 When we get back, 1648 01:34:23,550 --> 01:34:24,069 we're gonna... 1649 01:34:24,069 --> 01:34:29,229 now that Nancy didn't ask me to put that in her emails. 1650 01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:32,600 Let me ask you, what's the work, is that a grant? 1651 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,960 No, it's Energy Resiliency Program. 1652 01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:37,819 Okay. 1653 01:34:37,819 --> 01:34:39,760 And the things you have to jump through 1654 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:44,289 to get this grant, well, historical, 1655 01:34:44,289 --> 01:34:48,149 oh yeah, preservation, archeological studies. 1656 01:34:48,149 --> 01:34:51,029 They did a study on the ground to determine 1657 01:34:51,029 --> 01:34:53,130 where it would be more energy efficient 1658 01:34:53,130 --> 01:34:56,409 and gave some things that could be repaired 1659 01:34:56,409 --> 01:34:58,609 and then they offered grants to repair them. 1660 01:34:59,949 --> 01:35:02,640 Sounds amazing, they need Elon Musk. 1661 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,880 So this is dated March 24th, 1662 01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:09,439 but really it's going out tomorrow or next week? 1663 01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:10,640 Yeah, that's when I did it, 1664 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,560 so March 24th, it doesn't matter anymore. 1665 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,600 Yeah, if you guys are happy with it as is, 1666 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,619 we'll put it tomorrow. 1667 01:35:18,619 --> 01:35:22,520 Hopefully these guys get back to it when they intend it. 1668 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,579 Do you wanna extend that to maybe? 1669 01:35:25,579 --> 01:35:28,020 I don't know, they follow me, they didn't want it to be. 1670 01:35:28,020 --> 01:35:30,399 They, or whatever they want to be. 1671 01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:35,460 They should be able to do it. 1672 01:35:35,460 --> 01:35:37,960 Yeah, they did a big check, a couple months. 1673 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:38,800 She's gone. 1674 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,079 Yeah, don't worry. 1675 01:35:40,079 --> 01:35:41,720 Are you hot? 1676 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,560 It's a little hot in there. 1677 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,520 Open that door, open that door, I don't care. 1678 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:46,600 Well, you got your sweatshirt. 1679 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:47,439 I know, I know, I'm sorry. 1680 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,869 I don't know, I don't know. 1681 01:35:50,869 --> 01:35:53,310 Give Pete a drink of cool water there. 1682 01:35:53,310 --> 01:35:56,310 Yeah, give him a drink. 1683 01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:57,149 So we- 1684 01:35:57,149 --> 01:35:58,409 You gotta, you can't mock it. 1685 01:35:58,409 --> 01:35:59,470 That's why I'm getting hot. 1686 01:35:59,470 --> 01:36:03,060 Yeah, drink some water. 1687 01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:12,649 Sign in tomorrow or whatever you give me. 1688 01:36:12,649 --> 01:36:16,319 Something about resignations before you have. 1689 01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:27,489 And then the ones with the, 1690 01:36:27,489 --> 01:36:29,029 well, these are the effort ones. 1691 01:36:29,029 --> 01:36:32,560 It was pretty well. 1692 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:38,670 Why don't you jump over to Tom's one? 1693 01:36:38,670 --> 01:36:44,260 I just, I don't have traction, that's for sure. 1694 01:36:44,260 --> 01:36:46,500 All right, you wanna go back there and then we can- 1695 01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:48,529 Well, I have something to deal with. 1696 01:36:48,529 --> 01:36:49,369 You can jump over. 1697 01:36:49,369 --> 01:36:50,210 Okay. 1698 01:36:50,210 --> 01:36:51,029 Let's jump over. 1699 01:36:51,029 --> 01:36:51,869 Okay. 1700 01:36:51,869 --> 01:36:57,029 This is a resignation from Conservation Commission member, 1701 01:36:57,029 --> 01:37:02,289 and then we have one from Pete Greenbush from- 1702 01:37:08,270 --> 01:37:12,510 Same thing. 1703 01:37:12,510 --> 01:37:14,539 Conservation, yep. 1704 01:37:14,539 --> 01:37:18,680 And that's like mainly about like invasive plants and- 1705 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:19,520 Coffee all. 1706 01:37:20,619 --> 01:37:25,289 That's not all of it, but yeah, it's along those lines. 1707 01:37:25,289 --> 01:37:26,590 That one's too hard. 1708 01:37:26,729 --> 01:37:28,020 I'm sorry, I don't know if you have to do that. 1709 01:37:28,020 --> 01:37:29,020 No, no. 1710 01:37:29,020 --> 01:37:30,020 Okay. 1711 01:37:30,020 --> 01:37:31,020 I'm sorry. 1712 01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:32,020 I'm sorry. 1713 01:37:32,020 --> 01:37:33,020 I don't have the capacity. 1714 01:37:33,020 --> 01:37:34,020 I'm sorry. 1715 01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:35,020 Okay. 1716 01:37:35,020 --> 01:37:36,020 Okay. 1717 01:37:36,020 --> 01:37:37,020 Okay. 1718 01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:38,949 All right. 1719 01:37:38,949 --> 01:37:40,010 That's good. 1720 01:37:40,010 --> 01:37:42,859 Can you please say the names of the people who were in that? 1721 01:37:42,859 --> 01:37:43,859 I'm sorry. 1722 01:37:43,859 --> 01:37:44,859 I'm sorry. 1723 01:37:44,859 --> 01:37:45,859 Okay. 1724 01:37:45,859 --> 01:37:46,859 So this is the next question. 1725 01:37:46,859 --> 01:37:47,859 Can I have a motion to accept both of these with regret? 1726 01:37:47,859 --> 01:37:48,859 Yep. 1727 01:37:48,859 --> 01:37:52,800 Yes. 1728 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:53,800 Here are the letters of interest. 1729 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,800 Oh, we've got letters of interest. 1730 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,380 Who's interested? 1731 01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:57,380 Lisa Gardner. 1732 01:37:57,380 --> 01:37:58,380 She's interested in becoming a member of the Conservation Commission. 1733 01:37:58,380 --> 01:37:59,380 And? 1734 01:37:59,380 --> 01:38:00,380 Is that from Pete? 1735 01:38:00,380 --> 01:38:02,689 Who's interested? 1736 01:38:02,689 --> 01:38:22,579 Okay, Nancy, let's say I am very interested in the decision and leave my background in geology and long time life of recording the geology of Stanford and making the committee to Lawrence encourage me to send this note to you. 1737 01:38:22,579 --> 01:38:29,579 I would like to wait at least one meeting out there for other people because we have the regulations today. 1738 01:38:29,579 --> 01:38:32,710 Well, it's a seven person board so that just brings you to six. 1739 01:38:32,710 --> 01:38:33,710 Oh, okay. 1740 01:38:33,710 --> 01:38:37,710 Okay. 1741 01:38:37,710 --> 01:38:44,760 I have a motion to appoint the board. 1742 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:49,960 So what are we down to now? Two? There's four on it now? 1743 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:58,420 How many seats do we have? 1744 01:38:58,420 --> 01:39:02,420 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. 1745 01:39:02,420 --> 01:39:06,420 So Margaret resigned, Lisa resigned, Peter resigned. 1746 01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:07,420 So we have Sheila. 1747 01:39:07,420 --> 01:39:09,420 Sheila and Dave. 1748 01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:10,420 Sheila, Pete. 1749 01:39:10,420 --> 01:39:11,420 Oh, no. 1750 01:39:11,420 --> 01:39:15,090 Sally and Irene are still on. 1751 01:39:15,090 --> 01:39:20,189 So we have one. 1752 01:39:20,189 --> 01:39:22,189 We have four members. 1753 01:39:22,189 --> 01:39:25,220 So we have three seats. 1754 01:39:25,220 --> 01:39:26,220 I don't drink. 1755 01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:29,220 Point to tonight. 1756 01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:32,220 Really? 1757 01:39:32,220 --> 01:39:34,220 Elise is here. 1758 01:39:34,220 --> 01:39:37,220 Did you finish your motion to accept the motion? 1759 01:39:37,220 --> 01:39:38,220 With regret. 1760 01:39:38,220 --> 01:39:39,220 Okay. 1761 01:39:39,220 --> 01:39:40,600 So we're going to do the second. 1762 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:41,829 Second. 1763 01:39:41,829 --> 01:39:42,829 Second. 1764 01:39:42,829 --> 01:39:43,829 Second? 1765 01:39:43,829 --> 01:39:45,659 Second. 1766 01:39:45,659 --> 01:39:46,659 Second. 1767 01:39:46,659 --> 01:39:47,659 So do we want to appoint them? 1768 01:39:47,659 --> 01:39:48,659 What are you guys going to do? 1769 01:39:48,659 --> 01:39:49,659 Yeah. 1770 01:39:49,659 --> 01:39:50,659 You should . 1771 01:39:50,659 --> 01:39:51,659 And if someone is still on that seat? 1772 01:39:51,659 --> 01:39:52,659 And there's still an open spot. 1773 01:39:52,659 --> 01:39:53,659 Anybody wants to sit on that board? 1774 01:39:53,659 --> 01:39:54,659 I have a motion to appoint those two candidates. 1775 01:39:54,659 --> 01:39:55,659 Second? 1776 01:39:55,659 --> 01:39:56,659 Oh, that's a great question. 1777 01:39:56,659 --> 01:39:58,489 All in favor? 1778 01:39:58,489 --> 01:39:59,489 Aye. 1779 01:39:59,489 --> 01:40:00,489 Aye. 1780 01:40:00,489 --> 01:40:01,489 Aye. 1781 01:40:01,489 --> 01:40:02,489 Have fun. 1782 01:40:02,489 --> 01:40:03,840 Thank you. 1783 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:04,840 Thank you. 1784 01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:05,840 Thank you. 1785 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:06,840 Thank you. 1786 01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:07,840 Thank you. 1787 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:08,840 Thank you. 1788 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:09,880 Thank you. 1789 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:18,710 have fun review and sign warrants and town election 1790 01:40:18,710 --> 01:40:29,180 we need a warrant short and sweet no time in the night before we just speak for the election 1791 01:40:29,180 --> 01:40:36,800 you have any numbers they have to have informational meetings 1792 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:44,149 australian oh yeah i don't know then the next day is the vote we just want to get out of there 1793 01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:51,279 i wouldn't make that motion to sign this is um just to elect the following officer 1794 01:40:51,279 --> 01:40:54,979 lister three-year term lister two-year term lister one-year term 1795 01:40:54,979 --> 01:40:57,680 oh you're signing the meeting yeah 1796 01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:07,680 this was voted at town meetings to have elected lister so we're following through with that 1797 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:16,720 now how are we going to advertise for this election 1798 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:24,829 are we going to jump on the school and mail it with them are we going to put it in the newspaper 1799 01:41:25,250 --> 01:41:49,100 so if we include this warrant in with the school probably a yellow or pink piece of paper so it'll 1800 01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:57,449 stand out from their warning we should mail it 1801 01:41:57,449 --> 01:42:02,329 the thing is we have no idea when they're elected 1802 01:42:02,329 --> 01:42:06,920 we didn't put any money in 1803 01:42:07,159 --> 01:42:22,699 and then if that's the worst overage that you have to be here so be it right and then gotta take training 1804 01:42:22,699 --> 01:42:26,600 pay is negotiable so 1805 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:41,979 the laws are here 1806 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:47,960 we're going to do that last time 1807 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,880 officially okay he was the first who resigned first 1808 01:42:54,840 --> 01:43:01,680 so we're going to replace mara's and then pete's four-year term who do we want to 1809 01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,039 appoint 1810 01:43:03,039 --> 01:43:06,520 we read nancy's first 1811 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,520 lisa's first 1812 01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,840 lisa's first 1813 01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,250 lisa garner 1814 01:43:13,250 --> 01:43:15,250 and pete's first 1815 01:43:15,250 --> 01:43:17,250 they were left out 1816 01:43:17,250 --> 01:43:19,250 by obstetrics 1817 01:43:19,250 --> 01:43:21,250 for celebrities 1818 01:43:21,250 --> 01:43:23,250 go for three 1819 01:43:23,250 --> 01:43:25,250 i really wish that the select board would reconsider right now 1820 01:43:25,250 --> 01:43:27,250 about appointing anybody else 1821 01:43:27,250 --> 01:43:29,649 and just look at the reservation letters 1822 01:43:29,649 --> 01:43:31,649 and spoke to the 1823 01:43:31,649 --> 01:43:33,649 people who were resigned 1824 01:43:33,649 --> 01:43:35,649 i think it's extremely important 1825 01:43:35,649 --> 01:43:37,649 i'm not going to say enough 1826 01:43:37,649 --> 01:43:39,630 before you came in i had a cooperator 1827 01:43:39,630 --> 01:43:42,159 we've had a conversation 1828 01:43:42,159 --> 01:43:44,000 yeah i agree with you 1829 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,819 it's important it's an ethical issue it's important we want to extend that还 1830 01:43:45,819 --> 01:43:56,300 itself right it's a violation of the ethics and i assume you 100 so that's something that i brought 1831 01:44:03,260 --> 01:44:10,649 i'm going to ask this board down the road to have an executive session on the next meeting 1832 01:44:10,649 --> 01:44:14,569 to address all of that you want to correct the problem yeah 1833 01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:23,720 have them come in have a hearing whatever you want to call it and say hey look is there there's 1834 01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:34,340 issues i mean i just i know you guys spoke about it and i'm sorry i was late but oh it's like i'm 1835 01:44:34,340 --> 01:44:42,899 kind of it's not what's best for stanford i really do again these people these three people 1836 01:44:42,979 --> 01:44:47,859 that we're referring to right now are three of the best people that have happened in a long time 1837 01:44:47,859 --> 01:44:55,750 on these boards and so it's disheartening that this happened well we uh i'm not saying the ethical 1838 01:44:55,750 --> 01:45:01,750 part of it um there's a process and oh i know the chronicle can do the process i'm talking about 1839 01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:08,630 even above and beyond that the rules and regulations of our boards should be addressed 1840 01:45:08,630 --> 01:45:12,710 on all our boards and we should we've already talked about talking and 1841 01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:19,670 more language and this has to it has to stop yeah the good old boy now let's go 1842 01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:30,149 um so i make a motion well to amend the motion for the appointments they're four years each 1843 01:45:30,149 --> 01:45:32,310 oh they're about four years yeah four years 1844 01:45:41,289 --> 01:45:45,689 lisa went into marta's and nancy went into 1845 01:45:48,409 --> 01:45:52,760 and we have a whole one over there anyone's interested 1846 01:45:54,970 --> 01:46:02,329 you could do conservation commission and lister it's not a catholic interest and the list 1847 01:46:05,050 --> 01:46:13,539 okay um kurt school board joint school board meeting did we was i supposed to do that or are 1848 01:46:13,539 --> 01:46:19,300 you going to ask about that i asked number yeah i thought cindy was going to reach out to you or you 1849 01:46:20,020 --> 01:46:24,500 know i thought she was going to reach out to me she didn't go on chair yes 1850 01:46:35,819 --> 01:46:42,180 they were working on budgets and so maybe i'll wait until yeah i was i was thinking more towards 1851 01:46:42,180 --> 01:46:43,460 later in the spring or whatever 1852 01:46:46,020 --> 01:46:50,520 right okay anything else under discussion lauren 1853 01:46:52,359 --> 01:46:58,090 no the correspondence we reviewed the residences 1854 01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:21,460 we sat down with the agency of transportation people to go over our spring 1855 01:47:23,220 --> 01:47:27,539 they can do our budget and go over information and so we have 1856 01:47:28,659 --> 01:47:34,340 the annual financial plan that you guys sign every year our certificate of compliance for 1857 01:47:34,340 --> 01:47:41,510 the town road and bridge standards and then we have our municipality of stanford road and bridge 1858 01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:54,539 standards all of these um to take a look at and sign can you sign them they went over these the 1859 01:47:54,539 --> 01:48:13,420 other day guys second second all in favor all right while we're signing that i think that's the 1860 01:48:13,420 --> 01:48:18,300 first one to ask or we can go over the oldest and stuff but what i want to mention is before i 1861 01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:24,460 forget is the bylaws when we take a look at these bylaws and the work they put in there's some emails 1862 01:48:24,460 --> 01:48:32,180 that were sent to us also from members of the planning board that we should read and while 1863 01:48:32,180 --> 01:48:38,819 you're looking at those bylaws there's laws in place and there's email correspondence back and 1864 01:48:38,819 --> 01:48:43,539 forth that'll help you uh yeah our fans of things look over them their requirements the other day 1865 01:48:43,859 --> 01:48:56,220 one from dave and one is dave's letter was like ancient the letting the lettering was like from 1866 01:48:56,220 --> 01:49:06,409 1962 or something like that yeah um and i think it referred to more of the uh signage like when you 1867 01:49:06,409 --> 01:49:14,229 enter the town i was just welcome to stanford's you know what his letter was referring to was that 1868 01:49:14,229 --> 01:49:23,239 signage doesn't really um include town signage and then lisa reached out and you know got some 1869 01:49:23,239 --> 01:49:30,600 feedback from the guy and he actually explained you know the difference between but yeah it's 1870 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:37,079 worth a read if you guys haven't read it yeah it will help you you know it should give you more 1871 01:49:37,079 --> 01:49:43,060 insight on yourself where we've gone and hard work that i've put into it 1872 01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:10,899 lori and i have been working on some bids from people to put up a sign signage with the old 1873 01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:21,850 you know respected members of the community here now if you want to chime in on this does it make 1874 01:50:21,850 --> 01:50:35,449 sense to wait new sign bylaws and then have a chance to put up a larger sign old signage keep 1875 01:50:35,449 --> 01:50:49,029 in mind the new sign square then what we're currently trying and our budget is eight hundred 1876 01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:57,529 dollars and she's got a price of a thousand for one for another one so there's an issue of money 1877 01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:20,539 how those signs want to old sign to square footage new sign of square footage and also the sign to um 1878 01:51:20,539 --> 01:51:32,619 well one of the things i think we should definitely make sure that we can look at the bigger one not 1879 01:51:32,619 --> 01:51:40,630 that we would go that but we have to wait at the final minute i think i get the feds i'm all for 1880 01:51:41,029 --> 01:51:45,430 and doing it correctly so there's nobody's complaining but this is going to be a one-time 1881 01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:51,909 last forever thing again yeah at least as long as i'm around but i would like to make sure that we 1882 01:51:51,909 --> 01:51:56,600 if you were to get the bids down i don't want to have a problem with that but if it was 800 1883 01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:02,859 for a small one a thousand for the next one 1600 for that i will definitely donate money 1884 01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:08,659 you know i've already said this in a prior meeting i thought we had some house that said 1885 01:52:08,659 --> 01:52:11,699 we were going to donate all this donation so some of that money 1886 01:52:13,220 --> 01:52:16,260 not five bucks i mean i'm going to make hundreds of dollars 1887 01:52:16,819 --> 01:52:22,180 to for this cost so i'm not worried about money don't worry about going over budget 1888 01:52:23,060 --> 01:52:31,420 but i'll get bits don't call the people that are bidding that but okay so what's the number 1889 01:52:31,420 --> 01:52:37,800 the first sign was the gray one the old one we took down it was a quad square feet 1890 01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:42,520 then sign number two was a big one that said stanford established 1891 01:52:43,079 --> 01:52:49,220 you know there's an issue with that sign or laurie it's gotta be double-sided or not 1892 01:52:56,260 --> 01:52:58,020 right 1893 01:52:58,020 --> 01:53:02,260 able to go back off so 64 square feet is is the number three right 1894 01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:08,819 this is i don't think we should use either of the all size 1895 01:53:08,819 --> 01:53:11,300 oh number one or old goldının number two 1896 01:53:11,939 --> 01:53:13,060 number three 1897 01:53:13,140 --> 01:53:21,300 So the new Bible, we should get a bid for a new sign, just new, so we don't have to do 64, no, up to 64. 1898 01:53:21,979 --> 01:53:30,020 I still want to consider the possibility that we take the most recent old sign, number two, throw it up on a bill, and put it on the front page. 1899 01:53:30,979 --> 01:53:34,840 I'm all for it. I'm all for that. We can do that, too. I do that. 1900 01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:39,439 But we know number two cannot go back up. 1901 01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,560 As a real sign. 1902 01:53:42,859 --> 01:53:44,039 On a bill that we want. 1903 01:53:44,039 --> 01:53:44,680 We couldn't even put letters. 1904 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:44,979 Yeah. 1905 01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,199 Well, it's got to be for a particular. 1906 01:53:48,380 --> 01:53:50,600 You've got to put it in a way that can be seen. 1907 01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:58,420 It has to see what's here. It just said Stanford, but we need to know what's here at the bottom. 1908 01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:02,680 So, I mean, I personally think we should just move on from those signs. 1909 01:54:03,039 --> 01:54:07,100 If Bill wants to have them put up on the front page. 1910 01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:09,159 I like the idea on the side. 1911 01:54:09,159 --> 01:54:10,939 Yeah, that is a beautiful sign. 1912 01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:12,239 But. 1913 01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:13,460 I think we should. 1914 01:54:14,020 --> 01:54:15,239 That way, they're not stuck. 1915 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:16,479 Anybody's told. 1916 01:54:17,159 --> 01:54:17,840 Moving forward. 1917 01:54:22,729 --> 01:54:25,159 On the other side of that, though, I also. 1918 01:54:26,939 --> 01:54:27,840 Very nice sign. 1919 01:54:30,939 --> 01:54:31,960 It's up to you guys. 1920 01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:35,609 It doesn't mean. 1921 01:54:35,869 --> 01:54:37,550 The old sign might be worth something. 1922 01:54:37,729 --> 01:54:39,199 See, someone wants to put it. 1923 01:54:39,909 --> 01:54:44,430 Historic thing if we ever come up with a building for that, which we tried. 1924 01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:47,380 But you might want that. 1925 01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:50,430 That old sign right now, we. 1926 01:54:50,789 --> 01:54:54,180 Do we give it away or do we. 1927 01:54:56,159 --> 01:55:02,659 So that we should be able to. 1928 01:55:02,659 --> 01:55:20,859 But at this point. 1929 01:55:21,140 --> 01:55:22,579 I think we've done. 1930 01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:23,380 Get a sign up. 1931 01:55:23,399 --> 01:55:23,600 I. 1932 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:36,869 Try to find out where the town office is. 1933 01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:38,850 He said I didn't believe my GPS. 1934 01:55:38,850 --> 01:55:39,350 It was here. 1935 01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:40,109 But I still. 1936 01:55:40,109 --> 01:55:42,189 I still find that hard. 1937 01:55:42,189 --> 01:55:42,210 To. 1938 01:55:42,210 --> 01:55:42,310 I. 1939 01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:42,689 I can't. 1940 01:55:42,689 --> 01:55:43,149 Try to. 1941 01:55:43,149 --> 01:55:43,289 To. 1942 01:55:43,289 --> 01:55:43,489 You. 1943 01:55:43,489 --> 01:55:43,529 To. 1944 01:55:43,529 --> 01:55:43,670 You. 1945 01:55:43,670 --> 01:55:43,750 To. 1946 01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:43,770 To. 1947 01:55:43,770 --> 01:55:43,850 To. 1948 01:55:43,850 --> 01:55:44,409 To. 1949 01:55:44,409 --> 01:55:44,470 To. 1950 01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:44,529 To. 1951 01:55:44,529 --> 01:55:44,550 To. 1952 01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:44,649 To. 1953 01:55:44,649 --> 01:55:44,670 To. 1954 01:55:44,670 --> 01:55:44,729 To. 1955 01:55:44,729 --> 01:55:44,789 To. 1956 01:55:44,789 --> 01:55:44,869 To. 1957 01:55:44,869 --> 01:55:44,970 To. 1958 01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:45,050 To. 1959 01:55:45,050 --> 01:55:45,109 To. 1960 01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:45,170 To. 1961 01:55:45,170 --> 01:55:45,210 To. 1962 01:55:45,210 --> 01:55:45,250 To. 1963 01:55:45,250 --> 01:55:45,270 To. 1964 01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:45,329 To. 1965 01:55:45,329 --> 01:55:45,350 To. 1966 01:55:45,350 --> 01:55:45,409 To. 1967 01:55:45,409 --> 01:55:45,510 To. 1968 01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:45,550 To. 1969 01:55:45,550 --> 01:55:45,609 To. 1970 01:55:45,609 --> 01:55:45,649 To. 1971 01:55:45,649 --> 01:55:45,729 To. 1972 01:55:45,729 --> 01:55:46,100 To. 1973 01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:46,119 To. 1974 01:55:46,119 --> 01:55:46,180 To. 1975 01:55:46,180 --> 01:55:46,199 To. 1976 01:55:46,199 --> 01:55:46,260 To. 1977 01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:46,279 To. 1978 01:55:46,279 --> 01:55:46,319 To. 1979 01:55:46,319 --> 01:55:46,380 To. 1980 01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:46,399 To. 1981 01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:09,539 But it's all under chapter 10. 1982 01:56:09,539 --> 01:56:13,989 And David might have it even in the DOP. 1983 01:56:13,989 --> 01:56:17,930 Well, Jim, I went to 251 towns in Vermont. 1984 01:56:17,930 --> 01:56:20,750 And some of the town offices were pretty hard to find. 1985 01:56:20,750 --> 01:56:23,859 Because I had to take a picture of the snowfall that 1986 01:56:23,859 --> 01:56:26,579 had a town called Collin down. 1987 01:56:26,579 --> 01:56:27,260 Yeah. 1988 01:56:27,260 --> 01:56:29,119 But. 1989 01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:31,359 You got a new one there? 1990 01:56:31,359 --> 01:56:34,739 I actually went up and measured from the sign line 1991 01:56:34,739 --> 01:56:37,739 to where the sign can be where it starts. 1992 01:56:37,739 --> 01:56:39,380 And I kind of dug a little trench right there. 1993 01:56:39,380 --> 01:56:40,720 But it's probably. 1994 01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:41,720 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1995 01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:43,520 Did you get permission to dig a trench there? 1996 01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,760 It's probably about three feet above where 1997 01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:49,279 that flower garden starts. 1998 01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:55,819 Because Lauren's got some AOT sent some measurements from. 1999 01:56:55,819 --> 01:56:56,659 From AOT? 2000 01:56:56,659 --> 01:56:57,779 Yeah. 2001 01:56:57,779 --> 01:57:01,039 The fellow that was here the other day sent them down. 2002 01:57:01,039 --> 01:57:03,439 So 25 feet from the center. 2003 01:57:03,439 --> 01:57:04,220 24.9. 2004 01:57:04,220 --> 01:57:08,489 South and about 28 and a half. 2005 01:57:08,489 --> 01:57:09,409 Did I hear 18? 2006 01:57:09,409 --> 01:57:09,909 Wait a minute. 2007 01:57:09,909 --> 01:57:10,289 I thought I heard 18. 2008 01:57:10,289 --> 01:57:10,789 18. 2009 01:57:10,789 --> 01:57:12,050 What is the right one? 2010 01:57:12,050 --> 01:57:14,869 So it's a little angle. 2011 01:57:14,869 --> 01:57:16,069 It's on a little angle. 2012 01:57:16,069 --> 01:57:17,529 18 or 24. 2013 01:57:17,529 --> 01:57:18,470 So there's change. 2014 01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:19,270 From the center? 2015 01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:20,470 So it's in the center. 2016 01:57:20,470 --> 01:57:21,090 From the center. 2017 01:57:21,090 --> 01:57:22,670 12 feet or something like that. 2018 01:57:22,670 --> 01:57:26,050 25 feet from the center on the south end. 2019 01:57:26,050 --> 01:57:28,310 I think that's closer to the sign you took out. 2020 01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:30,430 So that's exactly what I measured, 25 feet. 2021 01:57:30,430 --> 01:57:32,970 And then it's closer to the sign you pulled out. 2022 01:57:32,970 --> 01:57:35,770 And it puts it closer to the road to the sign. 2023 01:57:35,770 --> 01:57:38,229 Well, the waste is not in resources, it's close. 2024 01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:39,890 Not to mention it was. 2025 01:57:39,890 --> 01:57:50,210 It was a sign that was up there, and we don't have to put town offices on the sign that's 2026 01:57:50,210 --> 01:57:51,210 up there. 2027 01:57:51,210 --> 01:57:57,350 We can put Sanford, Vermont, like you want to, on a triangle, and it allows you to put 2028 01:57:57,350 --> 01:58:00,510 any other signage under that door, like a placard. 2029 01:58:00,510 --> 01:58:03,909 It would be nice that, you know, town offices, and... 2030 01:58:03,909 --> 01:58:08,609 Well, that's when they were putting up signs, too, I said, where's the library, school, 2031 01:58:08,609 --> 01:58:09,609 whatever. 2032 01:58:10,109 --> 01:58:11,109 I said, where's the school, the town office? 2033 01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:12,109 Oh, we're going to hang them under the gate. 2034 01:58:12,109 --> 01:58:13,109 Because they didn't think of that, either. 2035 01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:14,109 It was... 2036 01:58:14,109 --> 01:58:15,109 If you get too close to the project. 2037 01:58:15,109 --> 01:58:16,300 But, yeah. 2038 01:58:16,300 --> 01:58:17,300 I think it's too far back, and you're not going to see it. 2039 01:58:17,300 --> 01:58:18,300 Right. 2040 01:58:18,300 --> 01:58:19,909 Yeah. 2041 01:58:19,909 --> 01:58:21,329 Right. 2042 01:58:21,329 --> 01:58:22,329 I mean, yeah. 2043 01:58:22,329 --> 01:58:23,520 It makes just huge concepts. 2044 01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,520 If we could. 2045 01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:25,520 Right now. 2046 01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:26,520 Please. 2047 01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:27,520 What did you say earlier tonight? 2048 01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:28,520 How is that now? 2049 01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:29,520 How am I going to sign this thing? 2050 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:30,520 There's three steps. 2051 01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:31,520 There's three steps. 2052 01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:32,520 There's three steps. 2053 01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:33,520 There's three steps. 2054 01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:34,520 There's three steps. 2055 01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:35,739 There's three steps. 2056 01:58:35,739 --> 01:58:36,739 There's three steps. 2057 01:58:36,739 --> 01:58:37,739 There's three steps. 2058 01:58:37,739 --> 01:58:38,739 There's three steps. 2059 01:58:38,739 --> 01:58:39,739 There's three steps. 2060 01:58:39,739 --> 01:58:40,739 There's three steps. 2061 01:58:40,739 --> 01:58:41,840 Yeah. 2062 01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:42,840 Yeah. 2063 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:43,840 I have a motion to sign. 2064 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:44,840 I am aware of the bonito. 2065 01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:45,970 I'm exhausted over it. 2066 01:58:45,970 --> 01:58:47,829 I agree with you. 2067 01:58:47,829 --> 01:58:48,829 I made a motion to exp finals on a website with punto. 2068 01:58:48,829 --> 01:58:49,829 Yeah. 2069 01:58:49,829 --> 01:58:50,829 Where's the time or resources? 2070 01:58:50,829 --> 01:58:51,829 No. 2071 01:58:51,829 --> 01:58:52,829 December 9th. 2072 01:58:52,829 --> 01:58:53,829 Do we have an old business? 2073 01:58:53,829 --> 01:58:55,829 Do we have a国 saw iI checking in bool ade 2074 01:58:55,829 --> 01:58:56,829 And you have a motion to sign an overweight permit from Barry. 2075 01:58:56,829 --> 01:58:57,829 Is that your opinion? 2076 01:58:57,829 --> 01:58:58,829 Yeah. 2077 01:58:58,829 --> 01:58:59,829 Yeah. 2078 01:58:59,829 --> 01:59:00,829 Yeah. 2079 01:59:00,829 --> 01:59:01,829 0. 2080 01:59:01,829 --> 01:59:02,829 0. 2081 01:59:02,829 --> 01:59:03,829 0. 2082 01:59:03,829 --> 01:59:04,829 Yes, sir. 2083 01:59:04,829 --> 01:59:05,859 0. 2084 01:59:05,859 --> 01:59:20,529 0. 2085 01:59:20,529 --> 01:59:21,529 So. 2086 01:59:21,529 --> 01:59:22,529 0. 2087 01:59:22,529 --> 01:59:23,529 0. 2088 01:59:23,529 --> 01:59:24,529 Yeah. 2089 01:59:24,529 --> 01:59:27,899 They're a trucking, a sell-off. 2090 01:59:27,899 --> 01:59:30,199 It's a cash $10 check. 2091 01:59:30,199 --> 01:59:31,439 Americans. 2092 01:59:31,439 --> 01:59:34,640 We're getting more now than we ever had. 2093 01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,909 They're not asking for it anymore. 2094 01:59:37,909 --> 01:59:46,670 All their insurance. 2095 01:59:46,670 --> 01:59:49,310 Fell down, broke up in three different places. 2096 01:59:49,310 --> 01:59:51,909 Two different channels. 2097 01:59:51,909 --> 01:59:53,909 Let's run it right across the street. 2098 01:59:53,909 --> 01:59:54,750 Unfortunately. 2099 01:59:54,750 --> 01:59:56,010 Eric, it has to be . 2100 01:59:56,010 --> 02:00:00,569 No, it's not my land either. 2101 02:00:00,569 --> 02:00:04,270 I'll fix it if you put it on NRCS. 2102 02:00:04,270 --> 02:00:07,750 I'll fix it if you put it on NRCS. 2103 02:00:07,750 --> 02:00:09,340 Did you ask for it? 2104 02:00:36,079 --> 02:00:41,560 Old business. 2105 02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:44,319 I have old business, which I hate to bring up, 2106 02:00:44,319 --> 02:00:49,319 but we got a phone call from the resident on Frechette Road. 2107 02:00:50,659 --> 02:00:52,729 What are we gonna do about his water? 2108 02:00:52,729 --> 02:00:55,619 I said, we sent you a letter. 2109 02:00:55,619 --> 02:00:58,489 Is your call over? 2110 02:00:58,489 --> 02:00:59,399 It's over. 2111 02:00:59,399 --> 02:01:00,840 I'm sorry. 2112 02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,229 It's over. 2113 02:01:02,229 --> 02:01:03,069 Done. 2114 02:01:03,069 --> 02:01:07,260 We're doing nothing there. 2115 02:01:07,260 --> 02:01:08,699 And we are not plowing. 2116 02:01:08,699 --> 02:01:10,699 We are not plowing Allen Hill Drive 2117 02:01:10,699 --> 02:01:16,420 because that is not a town road, okay? 2118 02:01:16,420 --> 02:01:21,279 I will get back to him and let you know. 2119 02:01:21,279 --> 02:01:22,460 New business, Lori. 2120 02:01:27,489 --> 02:01:32,739 I got an email from our emergency management director, 2121 02:01:32,739 --> 02:01:41,390 Bob Briggs, saying that there's going to be a training 2122 02:01:41,989 --> 02:01:46,029 in Manchester, Vermont on April 28th. 2123 02:01:46,029 --> 02:01:49,170 And this is to understand how the incident command system 2124 02:01:49,170 --> 02:01:50,510 works. 2125 02:01:50,510 --> 02:01:54,149 And I suggest this class is good for any new leaders 2126 02:01:54,149 --> 02:01:57,689 in town, including select board members, 2127 02:01:57,689 --> 02:02:00,050 managers, administrators. 2128 02:02:00,050 --> 02:02:03,329 So if anybody's interested in going, 2129 02:02:03,329 --> 02:02:06,989 I will forward the email to the board and to you, Lori. 2130 02:02:06,989 --> 02:02:09,029 Okay, brief reminder. 2131 02:02:09,029 --> 02:02:11,090 This is the thing we've talked about for five or six 2132 02:02:11,090 --> 02:02:12,289 or 10 or 12 years. 2133 02:02:13,569 --> 02:02:16,729 You have no authority as selecting to sign off 2134 02:02:16,729 --> 02:02:19,710 on the emergency plan without having attended. 2135 02:02:19,710 --> 02:02:20,510 Sorry. 2136 02:02:20,510 --> 02:02:22,270 Something similar to this course. 2137 02:02:24,399 --> 02:02:27,439 Somewhere as maybe 15 years ago or more, 2138 02:02:27,439 --> 02:02:29,140 the point is, Nancy attended it. 2139 02:02:30,239 --> 02:02:34,359 Nobody else on the select board has taken a comparable course 2140 02:02:34,359 --> 02:02:36,079 than you, perhaps Doug has. 2141 02:02:40,699 --> 02:02:45,729 But to have an appreciation of what responsibility you have 2142 02:02:45,729 --> 02:02:51,960 and the who fits the plan, what you're responsible for, 2143 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:54,600 what the select board is responsible for, 2144 02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:59,680 and as well as it is to enforce PILD and VEE 2145 02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:01,920 or whoever at your training, 2146 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:06,260 we were gonna do that online here and set it up 2147 02:03:06,260 --> 02:03:09,300 and it happened so now. 2148 02:03:09,300 --> 02:03:13,079 But if we can set it up, remember we talked about this? 2149 02:03:13,079 --> 02:03:16,539 If we can set it up here and have the computer set up here, 2150 02:03:16,539 --> 02:03:20,319 it'd be beneficial because to drive to Manchester 2151 02:03:20,319 --> 02:03:23,720 for something that's on the board is very difficult. 2152 02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:24,979 Can't you take it? 2153 02:03:24,979 --> 02:03:25,939 I'm sure of course you can. 2154 02:03:25,939 --> 02:03:26,779 I'm sure of course you can take, 2155 02:03:26,779 --> 02:03:29,079 if I take a PILD course like that. 2156 02:03:29,079 --> 02:03:30,220 This would be a long time. 2157 02:03:30,220 --> 02:03:31,979 You can take them online. 2158 02:03:31,979 --> 02:03:34,739 The intention was that it's considered as, 2159 02:03:34,739 --> 02:03:38,119 you know, given here, with the screen here, 2160 02:03:38,119 --> 02:03:41,220 you could get several people qualified at once. 2161 02:03:41,220 --> 02:03:43,760 And if there are questions, you can share. 2162 02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,000 You mentioned this, 2163 02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:46,960 many people must have a year to mention it. 2164 02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:48,600 And if you get around to it, 2165 02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,500 and Bob Briggs can't sit in on it, I do it. 2166 02:03:51,500 --> 02:03:54,140 Yeah, but I have no problem with it here. 2167 02:03:54,140 --> 02:03:55,140 What is the basic one? 2168 02:03:55,140 --> 02:03:56,899 If I want to take it myself. 2169 02:03:56,899 --> 02:03:57,739 101. 2170 02:03:57,739 --> 02:03:58,579 101? 2171 02:03:58,579 --> 02:03:59,420 Yeah. 2172 02:03:59,420 --> 02:04:01,800 Go ahead. 2173 02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,020 Probably 100. 2174 02:04:04,020 --> 02:04:05,100 What? 2175 02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:06,260 Probably not 100, 2176 02:04:06,260 --> 02:04:11,039 but if you go to the state emergency management website, 2177 02:04:11,039 --> 02:04:12,739 you can get a link to the course. 2178 02:04:19,340 --> 02:04:23,979 It would be an ICL 402 summary for executives. 2179 02:04:23,979 --> 02:04:27,720 The purpose of this course is to provide an orientation 2180 02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,020 to the Incident Command System for Executive, 2181 02:04:31,159 --> 02:04:33,949 and Senior Officials. 2182 02:04:33,949 --> 02:04:38,239 I just nailed it wrong. 2183 02:04:38,239 --> 02:04:40,880 The ICL 400 is a minimum, 2184 02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:47,340 if you'd be all right to sign all five of these things. 2185 02:04:47,340 --> 02:04:48,380 Okay. 2186 02:04:48,380 --> 02:04:55,239 New business. 2187 02:04:55,239 --> 02:04:59,539 For next meeting, we should start looking at 2188 02:04:59,539 --> 02:05:03,260 the employee handbook, because that's way outdated. 2189 02:05:03,260 --> 02:05:08,350 And another policy is the social service policy. 2190 02:05:08,350 --> 02:05:11,470 I can have Lori send them to you. 2191 02:05:11,470 --> 02:05:16,060 And we can review, and we can discuss at the next meeting, 2192 02:05:16,060 --> 02:05:19,819 and start reviewing them and getting those up to date. 2193 02:05:19,819 --> 02:05:26,569 And anything else under new business. 2194 02:05:26,569 --> 02:05:31,210 And we need to go into executive session 2195 02:05:31,210 --> 02:05:35,609 regarding pending or probable civil litigation. 2196 02:05:35,609 --> 02:05:38,449 About time. 2197 02:05:38,449 --> 02:05:39,869 So make a motion to go in.