1 00:00:02,220 --> 00:00:08,220 of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, 2 00:00:08,220 --> 00:00:12,349 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:12,349 --> 00:00:20,280 Welcome to a meeting of the State Procedure Lecture. 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,280 We have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda. 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,280 You may enter by addressing the chairperson of the State Procedure Address. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,280 You will notice that all the meetings are recorded, and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes. 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,280 Visitors are welcome, and you are allowed five minutes of comment from the visitor and fifteen minutes of comment. 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,280 Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner, and respectful of others. 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Select board members present are 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,280 Will there be any adding of items or removing of items from tonight's agenda? 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:01,079 Will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order of items? 12 00:01:01,079 --> 00:01:05,189 And tonight's meeting is being recorded. 13 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:06,189 Thank you. 14 00:01:06,189 --> 00:01:13,030 Will there be any adjustment to the agenda, such as changing the order of items from tonight's agenda? 15 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:15,060 And tonight's meeting is being recorded. 16 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:16,129 I do not. 17 00:01:16,129 --> 00:01:17,129 You do. 18 00:01:17,129 --> 00:01:18,129 Yes, you do. 19 00:01:18,129 --> 00:01:30,090 She has just without their witness. 20 00:01:44,859 --> 00:01:48,859 I solemnly swear that I will be truly faithful to the state of Vermont, 21 00:01:48,859 --> 00:01:52,859 and I will not happily or indirectly bring an act or thing injurious to the Constitution 22 00:01:52,859 --> 00:01:53,859 or the Constitution of the United States of America. 23 00:01:53,859 --> 00:01:55,859 in front of a government in a row to help me out. 24 00:01:55,859 --> 00:01:56,359 I do. 25 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:58,140 Mr. Walmart, I... 26 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:59,140 Mr. I am in the government hall. 27 00:01:59,140 --> 00:02:01,140 Mr. ...do solemnly swear that I will faithfully 28 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:04,140 execute the office of select only member 29 00:02:04,140 --> 00:02:06,140 of the town of Stamford 30 00:02:06,140 --> 00:02:08,139 who will therein do equal right and justice 31 00:02:08,139 --> 00:02:11,139 to all persons to the best of her judgment and ability 32 00:02:11,139 --> 00:02:13,139 according to law to help me out. 33 00:02:13,139 --> 00:02:15,139 I do. 34 00:02:15,139 --> 00:02:16,139 Thank you. 35 00:02:16,139 --> 00:02:22,280 Now, I don't really need to be swore in 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,280 but my kid, I'm just curious... 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Oh, you do! 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,280 Oh yeah, that's true! 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,699 I thought it did. 40 00:02:30,139 --> 00:02:30,780 No, it didn't. 41 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:31,620 I thought it did. 42 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:32,439 Right. 43 00:02:33,819 --> 00:02:34,800 That's what I was thinking. 44 00:02:35,020 --> 00:02:36,259 I thought I did it before. 45 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:38,139 Yeah, I thought she did it before. 46 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:41,139 Because she just asked me, did you get so already? 47 00:02:41,419 --> 00:02:41,659 Yeah. 48 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:43,580 You should speak out. 49 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:48,780 Do solemnly swear that I will be true and faithful to the state of Vermont 50 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:55,479 and that I will not directly or indirectly do any act or thing injurious to the Constitution or government thereof. 51 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:56,280 So help me God. 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:06,379 Again, I, Nancy Bishica, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of select board member for the town of Stanford 53 00:03:06,379 --> 00:03:13,680 and will therein do equal right and justice to all persons to the best of my judgment and ability according to law. 54 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,500 So help me God. 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,560 So help me God. 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,240 I didn't know you were going to do it. 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,099 You said it was me. 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:21,419 Yeah. 59 00:03:23,419 --> 00:03:25,419 The first order of business is reorganization. 60 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:26,979 Reorganization of the board. 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Can I have a motion to nominate someone as chairman of the board? 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,979 I'll nominate Nancy Bishica. 63 00:03:35,259 --> 00:03:35,639 Second. 64 00:03:37,210 --> 00:03:39,050 Any in favor? 65 00:03:39,729 --> 00:03:40,069 All in favor. 66 00:03:40,069 --> 00:03:42,629 Any discussion or anybody else want to do it? 67 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:44,240 No. 68 00:03:45,740 --> 00:03:46,340 All in favor. 69 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:51,750 We need a vice chair, Lori. 70 00:03:52,150 --> 00:03:52,490 Yes. 71 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:56,719 Any nominations for vice chair? 72 00:03:57,319 --> 00:03:58,539 I have no objections at all. 73 00:03:58,900 --> 00:03:59,180 Second. 74 00:04:00,460 --> 00:04:01,740 Any discussion on this? 75 00:04:02,419 --> 00:04:03,800 Anybody else want to do it? 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,960 All in favor? 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,960 All in favor? 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Aye. 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Clerk? 80 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Who's the clerk right now? 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,330 Oh, it's me. 82 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:13,590 Oh, Kirk? 83 00:04:13,590 --> 00:04:14,590 Yes. 84 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:15,590 I nominate Kirk. 85 00:04:15,590 --> 00:04:16,589 Second. 86 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:17,589 Oh, that was quick. 87 00:04:17,589 --> 00:04:19,709 I'd rather be chair than a clerk. 88 00:04:19,709 --> 00:04:20,709 All in favor? 89 00:04:20,709 --> 00:04:21,709 I thought they both do the same amount of paperwork. 90 00:04:21,709 --> 00:04:22,709 Right there. 91 00:04:22,709 --> 00:04:23,709 Thank you. 92 00:04:23,709 --> 00:04:24,709 Now, Lori gave us a list of appointments. 93 00:04:24,709 --> 00:04:25,709 I believe that's all we need for today. 94 00:04:25,709 --> 00:04:26,709 Thank you. 95 00:04:26,709 --> 00:04:27,709 Thank you. 96 00:04:27,709 --> 00:04:28,709 Thank you. 97 00:04:28,709 --> 00:04:29,709 Thank you. 98 00:04:29,709 --> 00:04:30,709 Thank you. 99 00:04:30,709 --> 00:04:31,709 Thank you. 100 00:04:31,709 --> 00:04:33,160 Thank you. 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,160 Thank you. 102 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,639 Thank you. 103 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:36,639 Thank you. 104 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:37,639 Thank you. 105 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:38,639 Thank you. 106 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:39,639 Thank you. 107 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:40,639 Thank you. 108 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:42,560 Thank you. 109 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,560 Do we have anything to do for that? 110 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Correct. 111 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,949 Lori gave us some appointments. 112 00:04:45,949 --> 00:04:52,589 A couple of meetings ago, we sent out letters to the officers whose term were going to 113 00:04:52,589 --> 00:04:55,740 be up in March, and we asked if they wanted to be reappointed, and Lori got letters and 114 00:04:55,740 --> 00:05:10,170 phone calls, and she has given them to us, so how do you want to do it? 115 00:05:10,170 --> 00:05:16,399 Zoning Board of Adjustment can go down. 116 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:17,639 Sure. 117 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:21,990 Okay, so Zoning Board of Adjustment. 118 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:24,930 Jean Kirkfield said yes, but happy to step down 119 00:05:24,930 --> 00:05:27,800 if someone else wasn't interested. 120 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,420 Does that mean? 121 00:05:29,420 --> 00:05:32,079 Well that's, I guess, before we start this, 122 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:39,199 we've had citizens question multiple boards. 123 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:42,279 Some are for, some are against it. 124 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,379 It may become a problem down the road. 125 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:51,480 If we have other people interested 126 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,720 on making a list for years, some of them, 127 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,240 is it in the best interest of the town 128 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,250 to change the way we're doing it? 129 00:06:04,250 --> 00:06:07,569 So we have some people that are on multiple boards. 130 00:06:07,569 --> 00:06:11,439 I'm talking not just two, but three to four or five. 131 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:16,139 I would agree if the board's very voting weight. 132 00:06:16,139 --> 00:06:17,839 Like if you're on that conservation committee, 133 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,339 and then the Planning Board, 134 00:06:19,339 --> 00:06:21,639 I mean that's fine because they don't vote both. 135 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:25,509 But if their boards are very voting weight, 136 00:06:25,509 --> 00:06:29,170 and boards that are directly related to each other, 137 00:06:29,170 --> 00:06:33,850 or for example the Planning Board creates laws, 138 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:37,000 and the Zoning Board, the enforcement, 139 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,529 enforces those very laws. 140 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:41,930 So, I mean, I can see where those two boards 141 00:06:41,930 --> 00:06:44,000 would be down there, for sure. 142 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,610 At least in the environment where we're in. 143 00:06:46,610 --> 00:06:47,689 So in lieu of the new city, the new town, 144 00:06:47,689 --> 00:06:48,529 that's not a problem? 145 00:06:48,529 --> 00:06:50,209 The new state ethics laws. 146 00:06:50,209 --> 00:06:53,519 This is where I'm bringing this up. 147 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:55,540 Things are changing. 148 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:58,360 People are complaining. 149 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,939 Ethically, is it, and I don't know it, again. 150 00:07:00,939 --> 00:07:01,899 I'm just bringing it up, 151 00:07:01,899 --> 00:07:04,180 because I think it should be brought up. 152 00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:06,180 Is it in the best interest of the town, 153 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:09,470 and this is where we were talking last time about it, 154 00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:11,689 should we change things before there is, 155 00:07:11,689 --> 00:07:16,050 in our perception of ethics, or conflicts, I guess, 156 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:20,189 should we change anything in order to avoid 157 00:07:20,189 --> 00:07:21,670 an ethical problem? 158 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:24,250 Or should we just leave it status quo, 159 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:28,060 and then when the complaints come, look at it better? 160 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:32,259 This is, you know, I'm throwing this at the board. 161 00:07:32,259 --> 00:07:36,500 I'm not on one side or the other at this point, Sean. 162 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:38,839 It's just kind of hit us, so it's really, 163 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,800 it's a thought process that I know that when 164 00:07:43,740 --> 00:07:46,699 you became a slot board member, you're a great example, 165 00:07:46,699 --> 00:07:51,240 and you stepped down as a voting member on the Planning Board, 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,360 but what I read in the handbook is, 167 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,899 if my sole purpose of being a slot board member, 168 00:07:57,899 --> 00:08:01,699 you're already a, I didn't want to say, 169 00:08:01,699 --> 00:08:04,939 I knew that, but I was already pretty, 170 00:08:04,939 --> 00:08:06,980 see, math is a little ahead of Vermont, 171 00:08:06,980 --> 00:08:08,639 it's a little language, and I get bombarded 172 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:11,160 with Massachusetts trainings all the time. 173 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,660 So I already knew this notion of perceived. 174 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:14,500 Yeah. 175 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:16,120 So that changes everything, right? 176 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,980 Anyone can perceive, I guess. 177 00:08:17,980 --> 00:08:20,279 One person out here that perceives it as an ethical problem. 178 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:21,120 Sure. 179 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,120 There are members that have been here for 30 years 180 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,860 on some of these boards, and that's a great commitment 181 00:08:26,860 --> 00:08:29,879 to the town, but on the other hand is we have, 182 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:32,340 I guess you'd call it new blood that wants to step in 183 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:37,340 and pick numbers and throw their hat in the air. 184 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,419 And I don't know, maybe we should start, 185 00:08:39,419 --> 00:08:41,360 because these are appointed, 186 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,299 maybe we should start thinking about that. 187 00:08:43,299 --> 00:08:46,779 If they went to elected, we wouldn't have to worry about it. 188 00:08:46,779 --> 00:08:48,659 We'd say, okay, if the Planning Board's elected, 189 00:08:48,659 --> 00:08:51,120 let it be, you know, but right now, 190 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:57,649 and you know, the big three, our Select Board, 191 00:08:57,649 --> 00:08:59,169 the Zone Board, and the Planning Board, 192 00:08:59,169 --> 00:09:03,769 those are the three that make decisions and have voting. 193 00:09:03,769 --> 00:09:05,269 We just went through it with a sign, 194 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:07,309 which I wish I'd never have to mention again. 195 00:09:07,309 --> 00:09:11,690 You know, our Select Board has to go 196 00:09:11,690 --> 00:09:16,029 and ask the Planning Board and Zone Board for their votes, 197 00:09:16,029 --> 00:09:18,230 and if we're on that board. 198 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:20,669 I mean, if you carry on, I mean, we have a lot of boards 199 00:09:20,669 --> 00:09:21,970 that are just like, congeniated boards, and go, oh, oh, oh, oh. 200 00:09:21,970 --> 00:09:22,169 Yeah. 201 00:09:22,169 --> 00:09:22,269 Yeah. 202 00:09:22,269 --> 00:09:22,370 Yeah. 203 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:22,409 Yeah. 204 00:09:22,409 --> 00:09:22,450 Yeah. 205 00:09:22,450 --> 00:09:22,509 Yeah. 206 00:09:22,509 --> 00:09:22,570 Yeah. 207 00:09:22,570 --> 00:09:22,610 Yeah. 208 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:22,669 Yeah. 209 00:09:22,669 --> 00:09:22,769 Yeah. 210 00:09:22,769 --> 00:09:22,809 Yeah. 211 00:09:22,809 --> 00:09:26,429 And all kinds of other, kind of, 212 00:09:26,429 --> 00:09:26,950 I don't know, sort of a gossip column or something. 213 00:09:26,950 --> 00:09:27,190 I think the 15th Wow. 214 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:27,549 I know that's in the 215 00:09:27,549 --> 00:09:28,870 Concentration Commission, but, 216 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:29,570 and it's great. 217 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:31,590 It's great that the Board is getting more active 218 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:34,470 about certain things, and they could definitely be advisory 219 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:36,789 to other boards, but they don't carry any weight. 220 00:09:36,789 --> 00:09:38,730 They don't vote, right? 221 00:09:38,730 --> 00:09:39,590 Yeah, you know, I mean, 222 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:41,570 we have a bunch of yeses on here that they want 223 00:09:41,570 --> 00:09:42,850 to continue to do it. 224 00:09:42,850 --> 00:09:47,629 My question would be is if there is someone else. 225 00:09:47,629 --> 00:09:48,610 Can I answer this again? 226 00:09:48,610 --> 00:09:52,669 We should probably advertise so that they have a look 227 00:09:52,669 --> 00:09:57,110 especially the ones that say no we should put it out in public now to say 228 00:09:57,110 --> 00:10:01,850 that these openings are available if you're interested the only ones that 229 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:07,549 know are the ones probably that read the letter or got the letter I looked at it 230 00:10:07,549 --> 00:10:12,960 quick and for example over here we have one two three no's on Conservation 231 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Commission but there's already two people that submitted their names and I 232 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,919 think there's not sufficient time where I think we should at least take those two 233 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:25,779 and then post it for the other one or whatever I don't know I don't agree with 234 00:10:25,779 --> 00:10:30,460 her I think we should open all three terms up and let anybody else open since 235 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:35,299 the first of the year essentially right now people got their reports people know 236 00:10:35,299 --> 00:10:38,539 that I would be privy enough to know that we want one of these seats that we 237 00:10:38,539 --> 00:10:45,679 do this every year one more thing I would say is if we had someone who said 238 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,649 no or you you know in the end we have that open seat 239 00:10:50,649 --> 00:10:51,659 we we 240 00:10:51,659 --> 00:10:56,820 don't already that's not actually what I'm trying to say what I'm trying to say 241 00:10:56,820 --> 00:11:02,039 is if I had someone said no and another person from the other board wanted it 242 00:11:02,039 --> 00:11:08,350 boost so once we start saying we don't really we don't really want the same 243 00:11:08,350 --> 00:11:13,870 people on these different boards conflicting boards we shouldn't go 244 00:11:13,870 --> 00:11:19,409 either way yes or no if I was on board and then it was an open for planning 245 00:11:19,409 --> 00:11:22,750 boards and say well nobody wants it I'll 246 00:11:22,750 --> 00:11:30,129 take it but I'm on the slide board right still say no the way I understand 247 00:11:30,129 --> 00:11:36,850 that the rules is ultimately the final months are responsible for all I hate to 248 00:11:36,850 --> 00:11:43,149 bring it up and drag this along tonight but on the other hand is this is one we 249 00:11:43,149 --> 00:11:48,639 have to talk about it and that ethics the change in ethics when the state has 250 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:51,379 brought up so many people coming to the board 251 00:11:51,379 --> 00:11:52,580 okay I was going to bring it up 252 00:11:52,779 --> 00:11:57,720 I'll bring it up I got myself did you or did you pathway she was first one 253 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,559 don't get something so far no no no no gonna kind of she'll ever attention 254 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,240 someone will know you guys are discussion about thirty years on a board 255 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,940 okay sure you don't come up in an its very seldom do you get anybody out 256 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:16,919 especially our conservation okay we are supposed to be getting feedback from the 257 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:21,679 selectmen on different lands and properties and just like that we never 258 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,159 did so we 259 00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:28,440 belong to it and we've discussed some different things i've already just talked to dave and asked 260 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:35,820 him is there something that he could ask us to help him to look at and stuff and he said just 261 00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:41,580 to feel comfortable meeting and talking our other ones have done the thing about this the windows 262 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:49,519 and that we have enough people we we need one more person basically and that one person i would like 263 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:56,080 to see her because she is also has secretarial work we need somebody that can write for us 264 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:03,360 and ask david so busy with going in and interviewing in that lisa is on a planning board 265 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:10,679 as secretary so we don't have that i'm not a good speller anymore so i have a great knowledge 266 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:19,559 and there is enough people that you can get on there you can go up to 11 to 14 267 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:25,629 like you did with the planning board and all that so this is about this is about conflict 268 00:13:25,629 --> 00:13:30,669 that you should seriously think you should seriously think about more but because you're 269 00:13:30,669 --> 00:13:36,669 in the center of the conflict you could be brought with an ethics violation if you're on the board 270 00:13:36,669 --> 00:13:41,470 absolutely if you're on the board that's making me on there if you're out of court that's making 271 00:13:41,470 --> 00:13:47,149 the laws and the institute on the local board that enforces those laws you are in in my opinion 272 00:13:47,789 --> 00:13:48,990 a conflict of interest 273 00:13:49,710 --> 00:13:57,710 this is not a personal there is no ethics violations as we've talked about right now this 274 00:13:57,710 --> 00:14:03,389 is not a personal thing the state said we have to come up with ethnic policies the state said 275 00:14:04,669 --> 00:14:11,710 the state said that we have to have a policy in place okay so this life over has to put that policy 276 00:14:11,710 --> 00:14:17,070 in place okay so you didn't do it because you took a test that's what you took i understand 277 00:14:19,710 --> 00:14:26,909 you have to come up with this and because there is there's examples of conflict within boards 278 00:14:27,549 --> 00:14:34,669 we're talking about that now and looking and saying should we address it if you're on multiple 279 00:14:34,669 --> 00:14:40,990 boards and there could be a conflict just like kurt said the conservation committee there's 280 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:46,830 really not going to be any conflict with that but on the planet border and zone borders very very 281 00:14:46,830 --> 00:14:49,549 likely that there will come a day that there's conflict and there's conflict within the board so 282 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:52,970 Yes, we've already seen it actually within our own 283 00:15:06,870 --> 00:15:10,610 I do as everybody knows I've been working very closely 284 00:15:12,429 --> 00:15:17,690 Yeah, and I think it's getting vastly over thought what about this? 285 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:26,470 We're going crazy here. We've had one complaint and most complaints are easily rectified 286 00:15:27,169 --> 00:15:31,730 By the person like I said Sheila. We do have a conflict here 287 00:15:31,789 --> 00:15:37,970 That doesn't mean you have to get off the board it just means that I'm this subject all she would have to do is 288 00:15:38,389 --> 00:15:40,789 Recuse yourself every summer with a problem 289 00:15:48,190 --> 00:15:49,309 One at a time 290 00:15:49,309 --> 00:15:52,629 We're not making those accurate points. It's every subject 291 00:15:57,590 --> 00:16:02,049 Lord is writing the laws and the other branch is enforcing those laws 292 00:16:08,179 --> 00:16:13,149 This is one of the things I'm talking about over thinking 293 00:16:14,409 --> 00:16:19,970 What about this another thing that scares me with this epic stuff is that somebody's got 294 00:16:19,970 --> 00:16:26,110 A bad attitude towards somebody. Oh, I'll get up here. This is something I can use 295 00:16:26,110 --> 00:16:30,870 I seen it done, but as a police officer, I had people come up and make false complaints 296 00:16:31,450 --> 00:16:35,080 We'll take the cops on you and I had that done more than once 297 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:44,500 And that's what's bothering me. I think they're overthinking it now. We have people here that had expressed an interest 298 00:16:45,299 --> 00:16:48,639 if nobody else has what's wrong with a plane and 299 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:51,230 this bit about Oh 300 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:54,289 serving on two or three boards, we have that sheet 301 00:16:54,990 --> 00:16:58,019 that suggests which which 302 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:00,460 positions might be 303 00:17:00,460 --> 00:17:02,740 in conflict with others 304 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,880 Why don't we before we make a big deal out of this and spend the rest of the night? 305 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,319 I want to move back and forth 306 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:13,640 Why don't we look at that sheet and we'll look and then we'll be able to say to somebody well 307 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:19,779 You may want to be careful of this or you know, maybe these things conflict, but let's know what conflicts 308 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:21,680 before we start 309 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,019 Going off into outer space. It's already taken us five or six weeks 310 00:17:26,019 --> 00:17:29,859 All right, we kind of just with a conflict of interest a month ago 311 00:17:29,859 --> 00:17:33,650 We haven't done anything yet. So obviously we're moving into 312 00:17:33,650 --> 00:17:35,650 What do you mean you haven't done anything yet? 313 00:17:35,650 --> 00:17:37,650 I'd say a snail's pace 314 00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:40,450 Snail's pace? 315 00:17:40,450 --> 00:17:42,450 Do you have a way to pick it up? 316 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:44,450 I spoke with somebody 317 00:17:44,450 --> 00:17:49,390 I spoke with somebody that made a complaint. They know what the procedure is 318 00:17:50,049 --> 00:17:51,670 if they send that out to the 319 00:17:51,869 --> 00:17:55,769 the state and the state gets back to us then we'll do something we can also be 320 00:17:55,769 --> 00:18:00,509 preemptive and avoid all this nonsense then why don't we even have a procedure 321 00:18:00,509 --> 00:18:04,890 if everything is going to be different well let's do it local of course then 322 00:18:04,890 --> 00:18:09,089 somebody might say well I'll go and say to my buddy Kirk or I'll go to my buddy 323 00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:13,710 Doug or I'll go to my buddy Mike we have a simple procedure that's already going 324 00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:17,730 on Doug we have a simple procedure no I don't think it is going on except for 325 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:22,329 stuff like this petty arguments and overthinking it's not overthinking it's 326 00:18:22,329 --> 00:18:28,250 not a move on it just came about so let me leave the floor to Mr. Mimari for the rest of the meeting 327 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:30,470 let's just vote on it 328 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:34,839 Jim you had your hand raised 329 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:39,099 I'm afraid to say anything 330 00:18:39,099 --> 00:18:42,039 I won't interrupt you don't worry 331 00:18:42,039 --> 00:18:43,960 I just did 332 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,720 I just had a suggestion 333 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,140 so two things 334 00:18:51,140 --> 00:18:51,599 one 335 00:18:51,599 --> 00:18:52,569 one 336 00:18:52,569 --> 00:18:52,589 one 337 00:18:52,589 --> 00:18:58,490 I feel like this board is tasked with it's a huge task to do what you're doing 338 00:18:58,490 --> 00:19:03,609 right now we appreciate it I appreciate it for sure but I'm thinking like you 339 00:19:03,609 --> 00:19:10,410 guys got enough on your table right entrust your boards to do this that's 340 00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:15,509 what I'm that's all I'm saying take that list or the people who want to be on the 341 00:19:15,509 --> 00:19:20,859 boards and instead of appointing everybody tonight allow the board just like we do 342 00:19:20,859 --> 00:19:22,640 with the zoning agreement 343 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:40,480 right and then we decide okay there's three or four people that want to be on that board let's send our request of who we want on it if there's only one open we got three people that we're talking to we'll send it to you guys and you guys approve it 344 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,900 but believe it or not that's kind of what I'm saying let's just kind of 345 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:46,920 so on these lists that you've handed us 346 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,700 wait a minute 347 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,680 oh I'm sorry 348 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,200 I'm done 349 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,900 I mean he's listed a 350 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:52,619 I'm sorry 351 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,400 it doesn't have any boards at all on here 352 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:03,569 it has pretty much all the ones I'm looking at are elected it doesn't say 353 00:20:03,569 --> 00:20:07,069 planet board it doesn't say zone board any of that stuff 354 00:20:07,069 --> 00:20:14,910 that's from the select board handbook of anything that's not compatible with select board that's just one chart for you to see 355 00:20:14,910 --> 00:20:17,000 is that up to date with the new office law 356 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,000 this latest one is the one 2021 357 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 oh what we're talking about is not on there at all 358 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,039 you're on solo 359 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,039 it's not about that 360 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:29,039 it's about this process 361 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:31,039 when you have a perception 362 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:33,039 I have a perception 363 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:35,799 listen I back up because I'm a fed senator right now 364 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:37,799 I'm a mayor 365 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:39,799 what's the Terrence House case 366 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:41,799 it's not a argument 367 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:43,799 it's a argument 368 00:20:43,799 --> 00:20:45,700 I wish it wasn't 369 00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:49,700 this is what happens when you're on a board you have heated discussion 370 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:52,839 but I'm just saying I didn't bring it up for that 371 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:54,839 I brought it up today 372 00:20:54,839 --> 00:21:05,519 There's definitely a thought here that there is perception, there is a thought that there is, and I just brought up to look at it as a board and say, hey, what do you guys think about this? 373 00:21:06,019 --> 00:21:14,740 I don't know. I mean, I agree with Doug when it comes to, there's been very little complaints, very little complaints. 374 00:21:15,019 --> 00:21:19,079 I agree with Sheila, she's been on it for 30 years, probably very little complaints. 375 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:20,019 It's a new law. 376 00:21:20,019 --> 00:21:29,500 But exactly what I'm getting at is, the state comes down with this, and then it opens the doors, because it's out in the public now, 377 00:21:29,579 --> 00:21:33,819 the people will say, geez, I never thought of that. I'm going to complain. 378 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,980 And you're right, sometimes people use it, it's like the red flag laws in this state. 379 00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:42,700 You know, they can also threat to me, boom, they walk in my house. 380 00:21:43,579 --> 00:21:46,019 It's an awful thing to have, it's wrong. 381 00:21:46,019 --> 00:21:48,059 But I understand it. 382 00:21:48,539 --> 00:21:50,420 And that's why I'm asking the question. 383 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:51,460 What do you think? 384 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:53,460 I know what you think, I know what you think now. 385 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:54,460 Good. 386 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:59,460 If I said, and you keep saying, well, the state's going to come down, before the state's going to come down, 387 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:01,460 we go through our process. 388 00:22:01,460 --> 00:22:10,359 If somebody thinks there's been a violation, send it up, you know the procedure, send it up to the State Ethics Commission. 389 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:16,390 They may say, there's no problem here, or they may say, yeah, give us a little more. 390 00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:20,390 And they'll send it down, and we investigate it, and then it goes. 391 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:21,390 And each time it goes. 392 00:22:21,390 --> 00:22:22,390 And we're going to work. 393 00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:29,460 But what I'm saying, as far as the state's not going to come down, unless somebody complains, and we just say to hell with it. 394 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:32,460 Well, what I'm saying is they already gave us the law. 395 00:22:32,460 --> 00:22:35,460 I don't think they're going to come down in a few days. 396 00:22:35,460 --> 00:22:36,460 But we're following the law. 397 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:37,460 We are following the law. 398 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:38,460 Okay. 399 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:39,460 And that's what I'm saying. 400 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:43,460 By looking at this list, if there's any other list, if we're following the law, we're following the law. 401 00:22:43,460 --> 00:22:50,519 I want to make sure that we're doing what's in the best interest of the town. 402 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:52,519 Me too. 403 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:55,519 And not because, you know, exactly. 404 00:22:55,519 --> 00:23:03,519 So if someone wants to retaliate against someone, or someone wants to stay and have their power, I don't care. 405 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:11,519 I want to see what is the best interest of the town for this ethics law or policy that we have in place. 406 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:17,519 And if you feel that it's status quo, that the state made the decisions, that's your opinion. 407 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:18,519 I have no problem with that. 408 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:20,519 I think there's common sense moves that we can make, right? 409 00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:32,519 I mean, I think most people in the room would agree that if you're on a board that writes the laws, and then you're also on a board that enforces those very laws, that that is a conflict of interest. 410 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:36,519 And that is to benefit the person that sits in that position. 411 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:44,809 They should be aware of that themselves and remove themselves from that potential violation to protect themselves. 412 00:23:44,809 --> 00:23:49,809 And we can also do that right here, if it makes sense, and protect them from them. 413 00:23:49,809 --> 00:23:50,809 Okay. 414 00:23:50,809 --> 00:23:51,809 Thank you. 415 00:23:51,809 --> 00:23:52,809 Thank you. 416 00:23:52,809 --> 00:23:54,539 Sheila? 417 00:23:54,539 --> 00:24:00,829 I've done two things when I was on the select board, and the zoning board, and the other one. 418 00:24:00,829 --> 00:24:06,829 Number one, when I was the select man and I was the chairman, we had the state coming in, and they were telling us, 419 00:24:06,829 --> 00:24:10,829 oh, you've got to get rid of those wood stoves and those things that you've got. 420 00:24:10,829 --> 00:24:16,829 We'll take them, and you've got to go buy these pellet stoves and stuff like that. 421 00:24:16,829 --> 00:24:19,829 Nancy was, well, we were the secretary. 422 00:24:19,829 --> 00:24:20,829 We wrote a letter to the state. 423 00:24:20,829 --> 00:24:24,829 And we basically told them, back off. 424 00:24:24,829 --> 00:24:32,829 Mind your business, because we're not going to just go in our house and rip out our stoves and give it to them and then have to buy these other stuff. 425 00:24:32,829 --> 00:24:38,829 So I'm telling you guys, yeah, you've got some people around and everything, and you've got some that have been on there, like I have. 426 00:24:38,829 --> 00:24:42,829 And I hope to plan to be on there until the day I'm in the ground. 427 00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:48,900 But you guys got to understand, you've got to fight back at the state. 428 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:49,900 And number two. 429 00:24:49,900 --> 00:25:00,019 When I was on the DBA and all that, when it came time for the golf course to be open and they have all these permits and stuff, 430 00:25:00,019 --> 00:25:03,019 you can ask Nancy, you can ask anybody. 431 00:25:03,019 --> 00:25:10,019 I recruited myself and walked out that door and stayed out there until all the disruptions and everything got taken care of. 432 00:25:10,019 --> 00:25:13,019 When they came to the door, they said, okay, Sheila, you come back in. 433 00:25:13,019 --> 00:25:15,279 That's how I handle it. 434 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:19,279 And when I have a problem with something like that, I just sit there quietly. 435 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,279 And you can do the thing. 436 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,279 It's very seldom do I raise my voice or say anything in any meeting. 437 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,279 And unless I agree with it, then I agree. 438 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:29,279 If I don't, I say no. 439 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,339 But I don't go after people. 440 00:25:31,339 --> 00:25:35,339 I talk to them and I talk to the whole group. 441 00:25:35,339 --> 00:25:39,470 So there's no way you're not going to get anything like that on me. 442 00:25:39,470 --> 00:25:40,470 I'll tell you that right now. 443 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:45,470 Because I watch my teeth and cues because I like my doors and I like being here. 444 00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:48,920 Again, this is not anything personal. 445 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,920 And that is great that you do what you need to do. 446 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,180 The reason why I brought her up, it's a blank face in front of me. 447 00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:02,180 It's not Sheila Lawrence or anyone else. 448 00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:03,180 It's a blank face. 449 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:07,180 Is there a conflict of interest between this blank face and this blank face? 450 00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:09,180 That's what I want. 451 00:26:09,180 --> 00:26:10,180 Excuse me? 452 00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:14,849 I just thought you said something. 453 00:26:14,849 --> 00:26:20,170 You know, it's whether you have two people that you want. 454 00:26:20,170 --> 00:26:22,170 It doesn't matter who's in that position. 455 00:26:22,170 --> 00:26:27,170 Is this position A and this position B a conflict of interest? 456 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:32,390 I'm not looking to say I'm asking this person or that person. 457 00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:36,390 I think that just like I said at the town meeting, 458 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:41,390 anybody who throws their hat in the ring for the town, I give them an applause. 459 00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:43,390 I'm not talking about that. 460 00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:45,390 I'm talking about is there a conflict. 461 00:26:45,390 --> 00:26:49,390 And if there isn't, if there isn't, if no state says there isn't, 462 00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:53,390 if there's none and you want to move forward, that's fine. 463 00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:58,259 But I thought it was worth bringing up to discuss. 464 00:26:58,259 --> 00:27:03,259 And right now, just out of five people here, we have two people that definitely disagree. 465 00:27:03,259 --> 00:27:07,259 I'm sitting on the fence saying, which way do I go? 466 00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:09,259 John hasn't said anything. 467 00:27:09,259 --> 00:27:10,259 I don't know how he feels. 468 00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:11,259 Taking it all in. 469 00:27:11,259 --> 00:27:13,259 Yeah, I don't know how he feels. 470 00:27:13,259 --> 00:27:18,259 But I'm just saying is as a board, before we do this, I don't want to do this. 471 00:27:18,259 --> 00:27:20,259 And then two weeks from now, I'll say, 472 00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:22,259 geez, when she does that mess, I'd like to talk about it. 473 00:27:22,259 --> 00:27:23,259 That's all. 474 00:27:23,259 --> 00:27:25,259 Hey, you know what I mean? 475 00:27:25,259 --> 00:27:26,259 I can talk about it all night. 476 00:27:26,259 --> 00:27:28,259 I ain't got nowhere else to go. 477 00:27:28,259 --> 00:27:30,259 You're right. 478 00:27:30,259 --> 00:27:32,259 I'm going to add something. 479 00:27:32,259 --> 00:27:35,259 You're saying about how can we work the ethics. 480 00:27:35,259 --> 00:27:37,259 That's the purpose of this board. 481 00:27:37,259 --> 00:27:39,259 Is it ethical or is it not? 482 00:27:39,259 --> 00:27:41,259 That's the purpose we're here. 483 00:27:41,259 --> 00:27:42,259 So that's what I'm saying. 484 00:27:42,259 --> 00:27:43,259 Follow the process. 485 00:27:43,259 --> 00:27:48,900 If somebody thinks there's a conflict, go through the proper procedure. 486 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:49,900 We'll handle it. 487 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,220 If not, then it shouldn't be anyway. 488 00:27:53,220 --> 00:27:55,220 We'll send it to the state. 489 00:27:55,220 --> 00:27:57,220 And then if there's a problem, we'll come down. 490 00:27:57,220 --> 00:28:02,220 That's how we're going to find out in the, how can I say, the or the least conflict, 491 00:28:02,220 --> 00:28:06,180 is to follow this procedure. 492 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:07,180 That's my point. 493 00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:09,180 I hope they made it. 494 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:13,180 So can we move on with zoning board of adjustment appointment? 495 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:14,180 Jean Kerfield. 496 00:28:14,180 --> 00:28:17,180 Yes, but happy to step down if someone else wants it. 497 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:19,180 No one else sent paperwork in? 498 00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:20,180 No. 499 00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:22,180 Motion for Jean Kerfield. 500 00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:23,180 Second. 501 00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:24,400 All in favor? 502 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,400 Aye. 503 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,039 All in favor? 504 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,039 Yes. 505 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:35,039 Do you feel, though, that we've given the public time enough to get their paperwork in for these open boards? 506 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:39,039 I know it was in, like Kurt said, it was in the minutes all the time. 507 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:40,039 It's in the minutes. 508 00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:41,039 Every year for the last 30 years. 509 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:42,039 Yes. 510 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:50,359 And it was in the last minutes, too, even though I can't find it in our minutes saying that we were going to send letters to, 511 00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,779 the ones that are, 512 00:28:53,779 --> 00:28:56,029 We did send a letter to everyone. 513 00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:57,029 We did send them it. 514 00:28:57,029 --> 00:29:03,029 And we said get back to select board or Lori before this meeting. 515 00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:08,700 And it was that last meeting that we sent it, that we talked about it, or was it before? 516 00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:09,700 It was the one before. 517 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,700 Did you have anybody not respond? 518 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:12,700 Yes, we did. 519 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:13,700 On the document? 520 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:14,700 I have somebody not respond. 521 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:15,700 Okay. 522 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:16,700 Oh, oops. 523 00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:17,700 I'm sure it's. 524 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:18,700 Did Jay Jordan respond? 525 00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:19,700 Yeah, he did not respond. 526 00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:20,700 No. 527 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:21,700 Oh, we're doing appointments. 528 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:23,700 Does Jay Jordan respond? 529 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:24,700 Yes. 530 00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:25,700 We're doing appointments. 531 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:26,700 Is that why he's doing it? 532 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:27,700 . 533 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:28,700 Is that why he's here, taking over? 534 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,700 Yes, it is in the one before. 535 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:38,759 I mean, the other thing we have said is anyone interested in serving as an appointed 536 00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:43,759 board member, please review the expiring appointed positions in the parliament forum. 537 00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:49,759 So, once the information on voting began in the back of the select board minutes, that 538 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:50,759 note was on there. 539 00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:51,759 It's been on there. 540 00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:57,440 so it's been on probably since the end of december only january okay uh if you wanna 541 00:29:58,509 --> 00:30:03,309 take more time that's totally up to you do you think we've given enough time that people 542 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:12,609 could have applied if they wanted to i think so okay i agree with you all right so we appointed 543 00:30:12,609 --> 00:30:21,779 gene the next one is sheila lawrence for a three-year term motion second all in favor 544 00:30:21,779 --> 00:30:40,259 emergency management director robert briggs he said yes he would like to be reappointed 545 00:30:42,269 --> 00:30:52,779 motion to reappoint robert briggs for one year second all in favor yes yes yes yes yes emergency 546 00:30:52,779 --> 00:30:53,980 management coordinators 547 00:30:54,940 --> 00:31:01,970 sheila lawrence and stuart johnson motion second on the favor yes 548 00:31:07,069 --> 00:31:13,230 and we do have um i received a note i don't know if lori sent it to everyone i think he 549 00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:19,789 okay no i just compiled it here okay unless the person specifically asked me to send it to you 550 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,079 was there a note from robert briggs about the emergency management coordinators 551 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:35,119 so he is interested in expanding his team and asked if you would appoint another coordinator 552 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:45,650 stephanie shelver my opinion is i just met her once here at one of the emergency management 553 00:31:45,650 --> 00:31:52,450 meetings uh she'd be very good for the for the team but we've got three in charge already 554 00:31:53,250 --> 00:32:00,000 i think she'd be great on the team whether she is appointed a coordinator or not but i don't want to 555 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:07,200 you guys feel about it. Stephanie Shelton. Oh okay I know who she is. Down at Patlin's old house. 556 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:14,319 I think if she wants to do it. What are the things this is one of the ones that I look and say 557 00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:21,339 we have a director and then the director recommends it's kind of like Dave Heider's 558 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:29,819 you know you Mike's under you you don't see Mike's not up for any of these he's he's your employee 559 00:32:29,819 --> 00:32:37,420 is almost the same thing to me. Yeah having been you know in Bob's situation for many years 560 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:43,579 and Bob has aggressively expanded the responsibility that he's taking and the 561 00:32:43,579 --> 00:32:50,339 things that he's got involved in that he's studied for and if he feels that he can use additional 562 00:32:50,339 --> 00:32:59,680 help as he broadens his response I don't see you ought to refuse him. That's our house. 563 00:33:02,059 --> 00:33:12,319 We created the position anyway. We created the assistant coordinator 564 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:18,109 the directors thing. Well I think that's kind of asked for it right? I think that's in your 565 00:33:18,109 --> 00:33:26,529 uh uh your emergency management paperwork that you have to have a director and coordinators and stuff 566 00:33:27,579 --> 00:33:32,859 but there's nothing that puts a limit on how many coordinators and I don't all those who have been 567 00:33:32,859 --> 00:33:39,440 gone and look at the ISO and you know idea that you shouldn't have more than 568 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,460 five people that you're responsible for at any one point for any kind of event 569 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:49,279 means you should have somebody beneath you that you can designate to take care 570 00:33:49,279 --> 00:34:05,789 of that responsibility. Do you think this is something that he would maybe want a group like just an emergency management group under him as opposed to just appointing 571 00:34:05,789 --> 00:34:35,349 coordinators? Did he ask specifically to name an additional coordinator? Yes. I'd give it to him. If he wants to establish a broader group of people to work under those coordinators and he has the time 572 00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:36,250 and ambition that 573 00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:40,530 Define them, just let them do it. 574 00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:53,039 I'll make a motion to move along with the board. 575 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:58,619 So it's time, yes? 576 00:34:58,619 --> 00:35:01,880 Dog Officer, Ruth McKay. 577 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,900 Motion to approve. 578 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:03,869 Motion. 579 00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:05,469 Whoever changes his mind. 580 00:35:05,469 --> 00:35:06,309 Second. 581 00:35:06,309 --> 00:35:07,130 Second. 582 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:08,250 All in favor? 583 00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:12,460 Aye. 584 00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:15,340 Energy Coordinator, no one applied. 585 00:35:15,340 --> 00:35:18,670 No one. 586 00:35:18,670 --> 00:35:24,260 Sectic Officer, Morrow said yes, she would take it. 587 00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:25,139 Second. 588 00:35:25,139 --> 00:35:25,980 All in favor? 589 00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:28,000 Aye. 590 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,599 Planning Commission, three positions are up. 591 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:39,460 Lisa's four-year, but June killed it. 592 00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:40,900 Dave Salter, four-year. 593 00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:44,719 Marta Miller, four-year, but she was appointed herself. 594 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,849 Did anyone else ask for the unnamed in this book? 595 00:35:47,849 --> 00:35:52,469 The planning, no. 596 00:35:52,469 --> 00:35:54,909 Why is there so many people on there? 597 00:35:54,909 --> 00:35:56,469 Good question. 598 00:35:56,469 --> 00:35:59,769 It was because we broke it down all of a sudden. 599 00:35:59,769 --> 00:36:01,449 We just put it on there. 600 00:36:01,449 --> 00:36:03,280 We went up to 11, I want to tell you. 601 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,280 We did? 602 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,280 We have a great group now. 603 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,280 This is the lowest five. 604 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,280 It's nine, seven and nine. 605 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,280 Seven to nine, yeah. 606 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,280 This is the lowest five. 607 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,280 Because we couldn't get enough. 608 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,280 We have a quorum right here in the room. 609 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,280 We couldn't get a quorum. 610 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,280 See it? 611 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,280 Right here, right now. 612 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,280 Oh, yeah. 613 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,280 Do they all attend, or does everybody usually go? 614 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,280 I'm sorry? 615 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,340 Do you usually have a full attendance? 616 00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:19,340 I'd say 90% of the time. 617 00:36:19,340 --> 00:36:20,340 Yeah. 618 00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:21,340 The time I've been on it, in eight years, we've gone from, there was five of us originally, 619 00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:22,340 and now it's nine. 620 00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:23,340 Nine. 621 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:24,340 Nine. 622 00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:25,340 Nine. 623 00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:26,340 Nine. 624 00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:27,340 Nine. 625 00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:28,340 Nine. 626 00:36:28,340 --> 00:36:29,340 Nine. 627 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:30,340 Nine. 628 00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:31,340 Nine. 629 00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:32,340 Nine. 630 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:33,340 Nine. 631 00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:34,340 I was boil about eight years ago. 632 00:36:34,340 --> 00:36:35,340 When I think about it, we came up with this small group from eight years ago, and united 633 00:36:35,340 --> 00:36:36,340 in more, because life is valuable than bad. 634 00:36:36,340 --> 00:36:37,340 We were lucky to get two. 635 00:36:37,340 --> 00:36:38,340 We didn't talk about much, or anything. 636 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:39,340 And the last eight years, it's kind of grown in popularity, the board's come up, and now 637 00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:40,340 the numbers. 638 00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:43,860 We've just put it at nine not that long ago. 639 00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:45,150 Right. 640 00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:46,190 I'll make a motion for Lisa. 641 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:47,190 Second. 642 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:48,190 All in favor? 643 00:36:48,190 --> 00:36:49,190 Aye. 644 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:50,190 Aye. 645 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:51,190 Aye. 646 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:52,190 Aye. 647 00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:53,190 Aye. 648 00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:54,190 Motion for Dave? 649 00:36:54,190 --> 00:36:55,480 Second, all in favor? 650 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,829 Aye. 651 00:36:56,829 --> 00:36:57,829 Aye. 652 00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:58,829 Aye. 653 00:36:58,829 --> 00:36:59,829 No. 654 00:36:59,829 --> 00:37:01,059 Dave sits on the BBA. 655 00:37:01,059 --> 00:37:02,119 I perceive that it's a conflict. 656 00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:03,619 I'll make a motion for Rhonda. 657 00:37:03,619 --> 00:37:04,440 Yes. 658 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:19,510 Wait, I'm sorry for Dave Salgo for four. Yes. Is one. No. Okay. That's not personal. And Marta, I'll make a motion for my 2nd favor. 659 00:37:21,130 --> 00:37:34,349 The reason why I'm making these motions, Kirk is because no one else is asked, except the father. I'm just, yeah, I guess we'll, we'll wait until the state called us and then we're never an isolation. 660 00:37:34,349 --> 00:37:38,429 But no, I understand. We'll see how it goes, Kirk. We'll see that here. 661 00:37:41,489 --> 00:37:42,869 Do you feel it's a violation? 662 00:37:47,909 --> 00:37:50,909 I'm not going to file a complaint. I just perceive it as a gun. 663 00:37:56,849 --> 00:37:59,489 We're not trying to get anyone trouble. I'm trying to save them from trouble. 664 00:38:04,349 --> 00:38:17,090 Conservation Commission, Martin Miller. Oh, no, no. So we'll have a vacancy. Yes. He responded and said he did not want to be for you. 665 00:38:18,469 --> 00:38:25,010 Oh, I got another letter, right? 666 00:38:25,789 --> 00:38:31,730 I have a lot of safe. Okay. We have to acknowledge this. You'd like to step down. That's right. 667 00:38:32,449 --> 00:38:35,030 So I would like to accept her resignation. 668 00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:48,900 I would like to thank you for stepping up and resign. So we have 123 open seats on the conservation commission. 669 00:38:57,190 --> 00:39:07,449 We'll need to if no one we have to name something here. Oh, we do. Okay. Um, requests. Okay. Well, we'll get to that. We want to get to that now. Or. 670 00:39:07,989 --> 00:39:11,829 No, well, the request for conservation, there's names here. Yeah, of course. 671 00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:13,210 Can I just ask a couple of other things? 672 00:39:13,210 --> 00:39:13,610 Okay. 673 00:39:14,170 --> 00:39:22,469 What's that preservation? Lisa? Sheila? David? Saldo? Sally? Gold? 674 00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:34,539 So, okay. 675 00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:41,139 We could appoint. 676 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,519 We have Sheila Pequot. You're resigning too, correct? So why don't we go over to resigning people? 677 00:39:48,699 --> 00:39:49,360 So let's 678 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,380 accept the 679 00:39:51,440 --> 00:40:05,219 resigning. Well, Martin is, but he's not here. We'll send him a letter, but no, I understand that. But he, but I'm just saying that you're resigning and same thing with you. I will accept your resignation. Thank you. 680 00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:07,980 Sheila's term is up anyway, so she doesn't have to resign. 681 00:40:08,769 --> 00:40:15,070 Well, she's not. Right. Right. Thank you. Okay. Just Marta. We accepted her resignation. Thank you. 682 00:40:15,369 --> 00:40:21,769 We could fill the two vacant ones that just expired and then appoint somebody. 683 00:40:21,769 --> 00:40:34,199 Eventually. Yep. So we will have a vacancy on there. All right. So we have two people that were interested. Peter Greenbush and Irene Berkman. 684 00:40:34,949 --> 00:40:41,610 I'm assuming you're Irene. Okay. Hi. Hi. Motion to appoint Peter Greenbush. 685 00:40:42,369 --> 00:40:53,789 Second. All in favor? Aye. Yes. And motion to appoint Irene Berkman. Second. All in favor? Yes. Aye. 686 00:40:54,869 --> 00:41:06,820 So we have a vacancy. So she did both, uh, same number of times from both where you are just the three someone can fill in for three years. 687 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:14,380 And yeah, we have to figure out where we want to put these. Well, yeah, we would have to do that because. 688 00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:20,269 Marcus is 2028. We'll have to close that one. 689 00:41:20,989 --> 00:41:29,219 The other two are expired. So those are not for basically hold on there. Yeah, we'll put Irene. 690 00:41:29,219 --> 00:41:29,739 And Peter. 691 00:41:29,739 --> 00:41:31,719 Peter in the twenty twenty fives. 692 00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:56,760 Yes. We have a hold on vacancy for Mark. Sheila and Mark. No, we have two. Peter and Irene can go and show that we are all having to show up. 693 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:03,960 I know. I did. I did. Yeah. I think she's helped you pass for years. You probably failed the ethics one. So. 694 00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:07,760 Okay. 695 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,440 So we. 696 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:21,610 Keep that in your notes and minutes that we have a vacancy in conservation commission. If anyone else. 697 00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:27,199 Again, I would like to send a letter to Martin thanking him for each years. 698 00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:38,380 We'll back to row commissioner, David. No, no. 699 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:48,340 It's only one year. I can get appointed, get paid, not do my job and take the money along. Right? 700 00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:48,840 Yeah. 701 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,940 Yeah. 702 00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:50,440 Yeah. 703 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:50,739 Yeah. 704 00:42:50,739 --> 00:42:51,239 I think so. 705 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,239 Yeah. 706 00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,519 Motion to action or commissioner. 707 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,980 Oh, digが. 708 00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:58,539 Yes. 709 00:42:58,860 --> 00:42:59,710 Yeah. 710 00:42:59,949 --> 00:43:00,590 Tree war. 711 00:43:00,610 --> 00:43:01,469 No one applied. 712 00:43:01,469 --> 00:43:02,389 So that is. 713 00:43:03,110 --> 00:43:04,690 That is that still? 714 00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:11,539 I don't have any. 715 00:43:11,539 --> 00:43:12,539 Don't county regional. 716 00:43:12,659 --> 00:43:13,139 Mission. 717 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,699 Debraancard is. 718 00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:18,400 We have a vacancy. 719 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,719 Lisa Grandma and said she would like to stay shake and work. 720 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,019 You know. 721 00:43:23,019 --> 00:43:27,530 with them for maybe the past year or two. 722 00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:30,690 Was it Dan that was on it? 723 00:43:30,690 --> 00:43:36,690 Dan was on it last year and we sent a letter saying if you'd like to be on it again let us know and he never did. 724 00:43:36,690 --> 00:43:41,820 So an official vacancy was created even though we kind of thought he was still on it. 725 00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:50,869 Current starting motion for Lisa for Bennington County Regional Commission to fill the vacancy. 726 00:43:50,869 --> 00:43:53,869 Debra's spot? 727 00:43:53,869 --> 00:43:55,869 Debra's spot. 728 00:43:55,869 --> 00:43:57,869 Deb said she was going to stay on it. 729 00:43:57,869 --> 00:44:03,869 Deb said she was willing to stay on it but if there was only one slot available she would forfeit her slot for Lisa. 730 00:44:03,869 --> 00:44:06,440 Oh I got you. 731 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,440 So we could put Lisa in the vacant spot? 732 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,440 Yeah. 733 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,440 And Dan and Deb can duke it off for the other spot. 734 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,510 I talked to Dan before and he said if somebody else really wanted it it was fine with him. 735 00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:21,510 Yeah. 736 00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:25,309 It was a meeting where I was trying to get it started. 737 00:44:25,309 --> 00:44:32,559 So it looks like if someone stepped forward they probably could get in because that doesn't really work. 738 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,750 There's only one vote though right? 739 00:44:34,750 --> 00:44:36,750 Maybe Dan could still go to it. 740 00:44:36,750 --> 00:44:39,750 No matter how many people who are right. 741 00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:42,750 It might be good to have a certain meeting to see who else can get in. 742 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:44,750 Yeah. 743 00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:48,289 So what was the motion for Lisa? 744 00:44:48,289 --> 00:44:51,289 You made the motion to appoint Lisa to the vacant position? 745 00:44:51,289 --> 00:44:53,289 I'll second that. 746 00:44:53,289 --> 00:44:54,480 All in favor? 747 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,480 Aye. 748 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,800 And Deb we'll keep her on then? 749 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:08,309 She said that she would but we'll keep her on and unless someone comes forward then we'll talk to her about it because she wants to step down. 750 00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:10,309 Yeah because she was almost going to resign in the last meeting. 751 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:13,309 Just keep her on for now. 752 00:45:13,309 --> 00:45:14,309 Okay. 753 00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:19,309 Can I have a motion to appoint Deb Burchard to Bennington County Regional Commission for one year? 754 00:45:19,309 --> 00:45:21,309 I'll make a motion. 755 00:45:21,309 --> 00:45:23,309 All in favor? 756 00:45:23,309 --> 00:45:24,309 Aye. 757 00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:31,639 Greenup coordinator Brian Rauer did he send anything back? 758 00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:32,639 I did not hear from him. 759 00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:33,639 What are we doing? 760 00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:34,639 No one sends it back. 761 00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,639 No you talked to Deb so we know. 762 00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:39,639 But he didn't talk to you at all? 763 00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:44,769 No he actually came to the window register and didn't say a word and I didn't think that he did. 764 00:45:44,769 --> 00:45:48,769 So that spot is open we have no greenup day coordinator. 765 00:45:48,769 --> 00:45:50,769 If anybody wants to do that? 766 00:45:50,769 --> 00:45:52,769 I'm going to meet Merrick Miller. 767 00:45:52,769 --> 00:45:54,769 Second. 768 00:45:54,769 --> 00:45:58,159 Merrick you just resigned from wanting to go that day. 769 00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:02,159 Yeah but that's you know a couple days for a bunch of posters. 770 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,159 Yeah and you're there anyways. 771 00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:08,159 Yeah I mean I was sort of the co-coordinator last year with Brian so I'll welcome him into 772 00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:09,159 Greenup. 773 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:10,159 There you go. 774 00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,159 Because he probably gets a shot. 775 00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,159 You're going to make cookies either way. 776 00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:15,159 I am. 777 00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:16,159 I always do. 778 00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:18,159 Someone made the motion to appoint Merrick? 779 00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:19,159 No. 780 00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:20,159 I'm going to choose. 781 00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:21,159 Second. 782 00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:22,159 Second. 783 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:23,159 All in favor? 784 00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:24,159 Aye. 785 00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:25,159 All in favor vote aye. 786 00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:26,159 unchanged when추 787 00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:31,440 Divi Fiber representative Bob Briggs for one year term and William Lou Binks for one year 788 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,440 term. 789 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,440 I'll make the motion to appoint both of them. 790 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,480 You're still going. 791 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,480 Second. 792 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,539 Second. 793 00:46:36,539 --> 00:46:37,539 All in favor? 794 00:46:37,539 --> 00:46:38,539 Aye. 795 00:46:38,539 --> 00:46:41,469 precise. 796 00:46:42,469 --> 00:46:47,469 Community Projects Committee, Carolyn Brooks Weeranat fromЙ nothing back so that's 797 00:46:47,469 --> 00:46:48,789 a baby. 798 00:46:48,789 --> 00:46:51,789 So it's not me. 799 00:46:51,789 --> 00:46:52,789 Well that's what I was saying. 800 00:46:52,789 --> 00:46:53,789 We should manage now. 801 00:46:53,789 --> 00:46:54,789 Be Collective. 802 00:46:54,789 --> 00:47:01,329 We should reach out to all of these guys and see if we should just dissolve the committee. 803 00:47:01,329 --> 00:47:06,329 Yeah, you guys created it. You have the ability to dissolve it at any time. 804 00:47:06,329 --> 00:47:09,329 If there's no meetings, there's nothing. 805 00:47:09,329 --> 00:47:14,329 The other thing, this is the last appointment that we're doing tonight, so I want to bring this up. 806 00:47:14,329 --> 00:47:20,329 Sheila kind of brought it up earlier that the select board is supposed to be giving information to the board. 807 00:47:20,329 --> 00:47:23,329 Nothing against that statement. 808 00:47:23,329 --> 00:47:27,329 Maybe so. I didn't see it in the select board handbook or anything like that. 809 00:47:27,329 --> 00:47:34,329 But nevertheless, we used to have all board meetings, and I don't see those anymore. 810 00:47:34,329 --> 00:47:39,329 The boards, I mean some of these boards have not met in years. 811 00:47:39,329 --> 00:47:42,329 That was the conservation committee. They haven't met in years. 812 00:47:42,329 --> 00:47:49,329 So when you're not meeting, you're not having meetings at all, the select board has meetings at least twice a month. 813 00:47:49,329 --> 00:47:53,329 We should definitely have communication between the boards. 814 00:47:53,329 --> 00:48:00,329 So I think our chair should reach out or at least do an email to all the chairs and say, 815 00:48:00,329 --> 00:48:05,559 you know, if you need anything from the board of selectmen, let us know. 816 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:10,000 If you're looking for any information of what's going on. 817 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000 And that way we can communicate a little bit better. 818 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:21,000 As the last member we know about, you might want to reach out to Carolyn because you still have funds. 819 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,380 Okay. Yep. 820 00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:24,380 So that's what I'm saying. 821 00:48:24,380 --> 00:48:25,380 Yeah. 822 00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:28,380 We should talk to people before we dissolve into it. 823 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:30,380 That was kind of created by the people. 824 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:32,380 They came to the select board. 825 00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:35,380 It wasn't the select board coming out and making it. 826 00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:36,380 People came to the select board. 827 00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:40,380 So I would like to see if these people want to continue it, they can come. 828 00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:48,119 If not, then go ahead. 829 00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:51,599 Do you want to send a letter to all the chairmen of the board? 830 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:59,789 I think we can at least throw an email out to everyone and say, you know, at least, I don't know if you guys might have any more meetings, 831 00:48:59,789 --> 00:49:04,199 but we used to have, you know, all board meetings. 832 00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:06,199 And everybody would, you know, be invited. 833 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,199 They wouldn't always show up. 834 00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:17,360 But the other thing is, is at least send an email out and say, just like you say, well, the select board, we'd like to hear if there's anything new coming up. 835 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,360 Okay. 836 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,360 Well, here's what pertains to your board. 837 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,360 This is what's new. 838 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,360 You know, just like you were saying with the ethics. 839 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,360 There might be some people here that didn't even understand the ethics. 840 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,360 You know, they're on boards and they need to take it, you know. 841 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,650 So we should send out a group message and say, you know, let's communicate. 842 00:49:37,650 --> 00:49:40,039 Go ahead. 843 00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:51,699 That's all our appointments. 844 00:49:51,699 --> 00:49:56,260 Issue your appointments. 845 00:49:56,260 --> 00:50:00,219 Should, I think we're all on here. 846 00:50:00,219 --> 00:50:03,219 We just have to re-up the appointments. 847 00:50:03,219 --> 00:50:04,320 All right. 848 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,960 I'll leave select board and Luke McKay. 849 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,960 Maybe our administrative officer. 850 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,960 Not sure about that. 851 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960 Issuing and appearing. 852 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,960 Appearing. 853 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960 I am only issuing. 854 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,920 We do not have to re-appoint people. 855 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:29,159 Can you check to make sure Deb is on there? 856 00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:30,159 No. 857 00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:40,289 Designation of meeting dates. 858 00:50:40,289 --> 00:50:42,610 Keep it the first and third. 859 00:50:42,610 --> 00:50:45,500 Thursday of the month. 860 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:46,500 We're used to that. 861 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:47,500 Yep. 862 00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:48,500 At 6 o'clock. 863 00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:49,500 Yep. 864 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:52,039 Make a motion to. 865 00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:53,039 Motion. 866 00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:54,039 Second. 867 00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:55,039 All in favor. 868 00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:56,039 Aye. 869 00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:57,039 Motion. 870 00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:58,489 Aye. 871 00:50:58,489 --> 00:50:59,489 Aye. 872 00:50:59,489 --> 00:51:00,489 All right. 873 00:51:00,489 --> 00:51:01,940 Designation of newspaper for publication. 874 00:51:01,940 --> 00:51:02,940 I don't care anymore. 875 00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:03,940 I don't care. 876 00:51:03,940 --> 00:51:05,039 Unfortunately, the more people get the Eagle then they do the banner and. 877 00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:06,039 Yep. 878 00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:07,039 So I'll make a motion to. 879 00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:08,039 Eagle. 880 00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:09,039 Designate the Eagle as our. 881 00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:10,710 Motion. 882 00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:12,960 Second. 883 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,960 All in favor. 884 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,960 Aye. 885 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,960 Aye. 886 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,960 Designation of select board member to review bills. 887 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,960 Motion. 888 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,960 Second. 889 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,960 All in favor. 890 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,960 Aye. 891 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,150 Aye. 892 00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:23,150 Aye. 893 00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:24,150 Aye. 894 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:25,150 All in favor. 895 00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:26,150 Aye. 896 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:28,329 All in favor. 897 00:51:28,329 --> 00:51:29,750 Aye. 898 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:30,750 All in favor? 899 00:51:30,750 --> 00:51:32,449 Aye. 900 00:51:32,449 --> 00:51:33,449 Aye. 901 00:51:33,449 --> 00:51:34,449 Designation of highway liaison. 902 00:51:34,449 --> 00:51:35,449 Is that you, John? 903 00:51:35,449 --> 00:51:36,449 Or Kurt? 904 00:51:36,449 --> 00:51:40,750 What's that? 905 00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:41,750 It's a real busy market. 906 00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:43,739 That was me last year. 907 00:51:43,739 --> 00:51:44,739 Whatever. 908 00:51:44,739 --> 00:51:45,739 You want to do it? 909 00:51:45,739 --> 00:51:46,739 Me? 910 00:51:46,739 --> 00:51:47,739 John? 911 00:51:47,739 --> 00:51:48,739 No. 912 00:51:48,739 --> 00:51:49,739 You want to? 913 00:51:49,739 --> 00:51:50,739 I'll do it. 914 00:51:50,739 --> 00:51:51,739 John? 915 00:51:51,739 --> 00:51:52,739 Okay. 916 00:51:52,739 --> 00:51:53,739 Do you need to make a motion, Kurt? 917 00:51:53,739 --> 00:51:54,739 Can I make a motion? 918 00:51:54,739 --> 00:51:55,739 Second. 919 00:51:55,739 --> 00:51:56,739 Okay. 920 00:51:56,739 --> 00:51:57,900 Switch it up for me now. 921 00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:58,900 So now it's John? 922 00:51:58,900 --> 00:51:59,900 Yeah. 923 00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:02,500 Did somebody second that? 924 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:03,500 Negative. 925 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:04,500 All in favor? 926 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:05,500 Aye. 927 00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:06,789 Okay. 928 00:52:06,789 --> 00:52:07,789 Yep. 929 00:52:07,789 --> 00:52:08,789 Designation of sheriff's state police liaison. 930 00:52:08,789 --> 00:52:09,789 Do you want to do the same thing? 931 00:52:09,789 --> 00:52:11,519 Sure. 932 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:12,519 This kind of . 933 00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:13,519 Motion for second. 934 00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:14,519 Second. 935 00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:15,519 All in favor? 936 00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:16,519 Aye. 937 00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:17,519 Aye. 938 00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:18,519 Designation of school liaison. 939 00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:19,519 Oh, that was Kurt. 940 00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:20,519 Do you want to do it? 941 00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:22,039 Two years ago it was. 942 00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:23,039 Two years ago it was. 943 00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:24,230 I guess I'm going to . 944 00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:25,230 We didn't reappoint anybody. 945 00:52:25,230 --> 00:52:26,230 We didn't reappoint anybody last year? 946 00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:27,230 No. 947 00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:28,230 We didn't. 948 00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:29,230 We didn't. 949 00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:30,230 We didn't. 950 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:31,230 We didn't. 951 00:52:31,230 --> 00:52:32,230 We didn't. 952 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:33,230 We didn't. 953 00:52:33,230 --> 00:52:34,230 We didn't. 954 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:35,230 We didn't. 955 00:52:35,230 --> 00:52:36,230 We didn't. 956 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:37,230 We didn't. 957 00:52:37,230 --> 00:52:38,230 We didn't. 958 00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:39,230 So I don't know if you want to do it with the sheriff or not. 959 00:52:39,230 --> 00:52:41,349 Sure. 960 00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:42,349 Let's make a motion, just in case. 961 00:52:42,349 --> 00:52:43,349 All in favor. 962 00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:44,349 And second? 963 00:52:44,349 --> 00:52:45,349 What was it, Kurt? 964 00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:46,349 Yes. 965 00:52:46,349 --> 00:52:47,349 Yes. 966 00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:48,349 Second. 967 00:52:48,349 --> 00:52:49,349 All in favor? 968 00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:50,349 Aye. 969 00:52:50,349 --> 00:52:51,349 All in favor? 970 00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:52,349 Aye. 971 00:52:52,349 --> 00:52:54,019 Designation of DV fiber representative. 972 00:52:54,019 --> 00:52:55,019 Does that one know? 973 00:52:55,019 --> 00:52:56,019 Is that? 974 00:52:56,019 --> 00:52:57,019 We got that already. 975 00:52:57,019 --> 00:53:00,840 We've got that. 976 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:01,840 On our list. 977 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,840 Only thing, Nancy. 978 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,840 Did somebody send a note off to the DV fiber board? 979 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,840 Because they looked at that. 980 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,840 Yes. 981 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,840 Yes. 982 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,840 Okay. 983 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,840 And I think we have, we do have the report. 984 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,840 I can see it. 985 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,840 We can see it. 986 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,840 We can see it. 987 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:19,130 for an annual they usually send us the paper to fill out to fill out yeah okay and i'm sure 988 00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:27,820 it'll be coming very shortly after um so we did they dug the represent or the liaison to the 989 00:53:28,860 --> 00:53:36,940 ethics committee or policy that's not on here it's a new board you need to put that on here 990 00:53:42,860 --> 00:53:48,780 yep 991 00:54:05,050 --> 00:54:18,380 we did earlier hearing the visitors getting approval of records and orders 992 00:54:19,869 --> 00:54:46,219 motion all in favor aye aye throw conditions dave uh since the last time we met with you 993 00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:55,130 has been a normal winter road maintenance and we repaired a small amount of mud and 994 00:54:55,690 --> 00:54:57,960 for sure gaps and enough has been 995 00:55:01,630 --> 00:55:06,119 it's like everybody else are self-supplies 996 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,920 yep it's coming for most for the most part the roads have been kind of just no ice covered and 997 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,960 it's kind of gone as well 998 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,730 i don't know next week's going to be six to the 60 degree day it's going to get us 999 00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:44,010 everything's all pushed back i mean no water issue really was 1000 00:55:45,099 --> 00:55:50,619 on the end of lincoln road on the intersection of maine because the state won't maintain the 1001 00:55:50,619 --> 00:55:57,050 waterway so there's kind of a cross-country road this morning oh it's gone down for a good time 1002 00:55:57,050 --> 00:56:03,719 we have a photo and a map and we can have you learn about what else so that's good how about the blacktop 1003 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,599 how about the blacktop roads are they holding up pretty good no we definitely have plenty of 1004 00:56:08,599 --> 00:56:16,409 frosties okay um easter has been a lot of heavy for us but we're going to be resurfacing that 1005 00:56:16,409 --> 00:56:23,769 this summer our road has never been as bumpy i can't believe the main road is this bad yes i 1006 00:56:23,769 --> 00:56:30,090 mean they just we did that yeah it's this amazing hole that yeah it's got a pretty good bump on 1007 00:56:30,090 --> 00:56:34,170 jefferson road too just about where the yeah i found i found it something yeah 1008 00:56:35,050 --> 00:56:40,090 yeah it's definitely there's some some real serious frosties this year yeah you know we 1009 00:56:40,090 --> 00:56:46,840 had those two months of straight holes in the water and we had a bunch of rain you know like 1010 00:56:47,929 --> 00:56:53,449 i think it got cold at the end of november and just stayed cold right that rain he had so all 1011 00:56:53,449 --> 00:56:59,920 that froze and a lot of that will come out but the good thing about our you know gypsy overall 1012 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:04,880 is they kind of move so they move back you know we'll stab a lot of it yeah 1013 00:57:06,329 --> 00:57:12,170 next year we'll hopefully if the town lets us get them on our resurfacing project we'll be 1014 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,920 asking them that next year's meeting to resurface again so 1015 00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:32,219 next time yeah i mean we've got you know plenty of maintenance to repair too 1016 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:54,079 review and sign 2024 grant in aid reimbursement request yes we finally came to terms with um the 1017 00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:03,280 refusing to pay the dcrc bill we fought back dcrc ended up submitting a new bill for almost 500 1018 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:10,960 almost half of the first bill which the state will allow a reimbursement of because it falls 1019 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:20,400 within the proper dates dcrc said they would um i think refund the money that we paid for the 1020 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:27,929 remaining part of the bill so that we're not left only holding back i'd like to sign this grant i'd 1021 00:58:27,929 --> 00:58:35,309 like to sign this grant agreement then we can send it into the state and share this we'll watch the 1022 00:58:35,309 --> 00:58:42,519 dates closer fighting back really helped us out yeah that's a thousand dollars right it wasn't 1023 00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:52,590 it's new it's different the thing is we did what we needed to do right we can't really follow the 1024 00:58:52,590 --> 00:58:58,110 dcrc either because they need to try and pick it up there that's right right they gave us a day 1025 00:58:58,110 --> 00:59:02,030 they really need another week or two at least because they're not going to come on us the the 1026 00:59:02,190 --> 00:59:06,280 same ideas of us deals 1027 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:36,170 the same nice nice long explanation well there's a lot of issues that come up there 1028 00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:40,329 at the state level they're not really thinking about i mean it's like 1029 00:59:40,329 --> 00:59:44,519 well 1030 00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:46,650 all the other you know 1031 00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:56,719 counting the paperwork that goes along with it and i think too a two-man road crew 1032 00:59:56,719 --> 01:00:02,909 is a lot different than a city road crew hundreds sure well i mean 1033 01:00:03,550 --> 01:00:06,590 can you really think about all the things we have to do and you know 1034 01:00:07,530 --> 01:00:11,849 the day until september it's just a couple culverts but you know there are other things like 1035 01:00:13,050 --> 01:00:17,050 out there you don't think much of but like the modeling i don't wanna wait because then everything's 1036 01:00:17,050 --> 01:00:19,050 to see so i can't throw it out there just know i think now i'm going to put in some more work on the 1037 01:00:19,050 --> 01:00:22,050 and then you do the mowing, you know, June-ish. 1038 01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:27,050 And all the gratings, you know, in the spring before that. 1039 01:00:27,050 --> 01:00:30,050 And grating, you're watching the weather anyway. 1040 01:00:30,050 --> 01:00:36,340 Yeah, and everything's weather-dependent, so they're not really thinking about all that 1041 01:00:36,340 --> 01:00:38,659 when they're putting dates on things. 1042 01:00:38,659 --> 01:00:45,489 They really, more people need to get together and be involved in some of their decision-making process 1043 01:00:45,489 --> 01:00:50,639 of when they're going to put dates on things. 1044 01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:53,639 Laurie, any update on FEMA reimbursements? 1045 01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:54,639 Nothing yet. 1046 01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:58,539 I submitted a paperwork. 1047 01:00:58,539 --> 01:01:01,539 She said she would be sending it in for payment. 1048 01:01:01,539 --> 01:01:08,340 I got an email from her this week about it, so I don't know if that means a week or two from now. 1049 01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:09,340 We might have something. 1050 01:01:09,340 --> 01:01:14,219 Recycling. 1051 01:01:14,219 --> 01:01:18,679 You just had something fixed at recycling? 1052 01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:32,119 Yeah, the contractor had a control inside that starts the mower here. 1053 01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:41,800 It doesn't matter. 1054 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:50,840 It's never completely failed. 1055 01:01:50,840 --> 01:02:05,389 Anything else on road conditions, recycling? 1056 01:02:05,389 --> 01:02:07,579 Moving to discussion. 1057 01:02:07,579 --> 01:02:09,579 Review results of town meeting. 1058 01:02:09,579 --> 01:02:19,900 That's about it. 1059 01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:28,630 As far as the hired solicitor, we're going to have to wait at least 30 days in case, 1060 01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:35,630 or just to make sure everything is set with town meeting, it's required to wait 30 days. 1061 01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:39,039 Anything else at town meeting? 1062 01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,039 Well, the day after, there was a new voter turnout. 1063 01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:42,199 Yeah. 1064 01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:44,829 It's a new vote. 1065 01:02:44,829 --> 01:02:45,829 Question on the dog reserve fund. 1066 01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:46,829 Yup. 1067 01:02:46,829 --> 01:02:47,829 Are you content to have that just in the general fund, separated, or would you like 1068 01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:48,829 its own account that would be over to us? 1069 01:02:48,829 --> 01:02:49,829 Or is that interesting idea? 1070 01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:50,829 Well, you would track it. 1071 01:02:50,829 --> 01:02:51,829 You would do a separate fund, right? 1072 01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:52,829 You keep track of what it is, I don't know. 1073 01:02:52,829 --> 01:02:53,829 Yeah, I think the auditor's kind of recommended. 1074 01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:54,829 Yeah, it just won't be an interest if it's part of the reserve fund. 1075 01:02:54,829 --> 01:02:55,829 If it's part of the general fund, it'll just, you know, the $5 will go into it. 1076 01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:56,829 I don't think it's part of the reserve fund. 1077 01:02:56,829 --> 01:03:00,360 I don't think it's part of the general fund. 1078 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,360 I think it's part of the general fund. 1079 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,360 I don't think it's part of the general fund. 1080 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,179 I think it's part of the general fund. 1081 01:03:05,179 --> 01:03:06,179 I don't think it's part of the general fund. 1082 01:03:06,179 --> 01:03:07,179 Not yet, but someday. 1083 01:03:07,179 --> 01:03:08,179 Let's see. 1084 01:03:08,179 --> 01:03:15,820 Can we transfer an auditor to the general fund? 1085 01:03:15,820 --> 01:03:19,820 We have to. 1086 01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:39,000 I mean, once we get to a certain level, you know, we'll see how it goes, if we start using 1087 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,150 it, then the loan will go away. 1088 01:03:41,150 --> 01:03:41,210 Yeah, fine. 1089 01:03:41,769 --> 01:03:49,880 then I think we have to set some guidelines for the use of that. 1090 01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:58,469 Like a lot of your future funds and a lot of your funds are separate accounts from the general fund. 1091 01:03:59,309 --> 01:04:03,000 Do they get their own interest? 1092 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:04,679 That's the whole thing. 1093 01:04:06,659 --> 01:04:10,500 Yeah, because we want it to be right. 1094 01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:25,679 So do you want me to contact Luke and we can work on the guidelines for the use of that? 1095 01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:33,969 Do you have any ideas right here of what we want to use it for? 1096 01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:38,130 I like the animal care. 1097 01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:43,849 Didn't we have an amendment to it so we could pretty much use it for anything at all? 1098 01:04:43,949 --> 01:04:45,570 I think the way we amended that. 1099 01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:48,849 Anything that is dog related. 1100 01:04:49,269 --> 01:04:51,650 But we don't want to use it for rabies. 1101 01:04:51,769 --> 01:04:52,369 Is that what you said? 1102 01:04:52,730 --> 01:04:54,289 I don't think we said we don't want to. 1103 01:04:54,289 --> 01:04:55,969 I think we said we could use it for anything. 1104 01:04:57,650 --> 01:04:59,690 We didn't want to use it for just rabies. 1105 01:04:59,710 --> 01:05:03,309 Animal care and control. 1106 01:05:03,809 --> 01:05:03,989 Yeah. 1107 01:05:04,190 --> 01:05:05,550 I mean, I don't know about Luke. 1108 01:05:06,070 --> 01:05:09,849 What if he brings a cat that's, you know. 1109 01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:10,789 No cats. 1110 01:05:11,570 --> 01:05:15,550 What if he brings one in that's been hit or out that needs to be taken care of? 1111 01:05:16,929 --> 01:05:17,389 That's his. 1112 01:05:17,869 --> 01:05:18,769 That's his cat. 1113 01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:21,750 Sorry, I have a cat while we're working. 1114 01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:23,420 I'll wear them all. 1115 01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:24,139 We're dogs. 1116 01:05:24,139 --> 01:05:25,219 Put it in reverse. 1117 01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:26,820 Finish it off. 1118 01:05:31,019 --> 01:05:33,420 That's the only rabies you got, so. 1119 01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:35,739 Yeah, I mean, you can't really bring them in. 1120 01:05:35,739 --> 01:05:36,239 I don't know. 1121 01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:36,739 By law. 1122 01:05:36,739 --> 01:05:38,340 Then we have a lizard or something. 1123 01:05:38,340 --> 01:05:38,840 I don't think so. 1124 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:39,340 By law. 1125 01:05:39,340 --> 01:05:40,840 That's what I'm saying. 1126 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:41,340 Right? 1127 01:05:41,340 --> 01:05:43,340 Well, if he wants to do the lizard himself. 1128 01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:45,340 Then we have someone put on a lizard. 1129 01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:47,340 Tons of feral, feral cats. 1130 01:05:47,340 --> 01:05:49,340 That's funny. 1131 01:05:49,340 --> 01:05:49,840 I don't know. 1132 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,340 By law. 1133 01:05:50,340 --> 01:05:50,840 That's it. 1134 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,340 That's it. 1135 01:05:51,340 --> 01:05:51,840 That's it. 1136 01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:55,199 Really, I didn't think you even had to register a cat. 1137 01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:57,199 So how would anybody know that you need it by law? 1138 01:05:57,199 --> 01:06:00,289 Farmers have thousands of cats all over the place. 1139 01:06:00,289 --> 01:06:00,789 Yeah, they can get it. 1140 01:06:00,789 --> 01:06:01,289 Yeah. 1141 01:06:01,289 --> 01:06:02,789 But it's a new Vermont, right? 1142 01:06:02,789 --> 01:06:03,289 Is it? 1143 01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:03,789 Wow. 1144 01:06:03,789 --> 01:06:05,289 Feral cat. 1145 01:06:05,289 --> 01:06:06,289 Relatively new. 1146 01:06:06,289 --> 01:06:06,789 Huh? 1147 01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:07,289 Yeah. 1148 01:06:07,289 --> 01:06:10,289 Domestic cat has the most invasive species on the planet. 1149 01:06:10,289 --> 01:06:14,289 The only difference is you can inject the cat yourself. 1150 01:06:14,289 --> 01:06:14,789 Yes. 1151 01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:16,289 You don't have to take to a vet. 1152 01:06:16,289 --> 01:06:21,599 But how does a state, you know, how do they enforce that? 1153 01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:23,599 It's another law with no means for enforcement. 1154 01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:24,599 Right, right, right. 1155 01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:25,599 That's what I'm saying. 1156 01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:28,599 It's more of an enforce afterwards. 1157 01:06:28,599 --> 01:06:32,599 So if your cat gets rabies and then gives it to somebody else, 1158 01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:33,599 your response. 1159 01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:34,599 Your response. 1160 01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:35,599 Or vote. 1161 01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:36,599 Yeah, like an insurance deal. 1162 01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:37,599 Yeah. 1163 01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:41,599 Lisa, I just wanted to put in my two cents if I could ask. 1164 01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:42,599 I like what Kurt said. 1165 01:06:42,599 --> 01:06:45,599 If there's a cat that gets bit, that we could euthanize it, 1166 01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:47,599 name it with that money. 1167 01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:50,440 We're not required to do that. 1168 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:51,440 I know. 1169 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,440 I know. 1170 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,440 I know we're required to. 1171 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,440 But like could we just add that into the fund that we could do that? 1172 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,440 No. 1173 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,440 Except it's just under animal. 1174 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,440 I mean, like I said, we had a lizard last year or whatever. 1175 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,440 How many, what animals are we going to stop it at? 1176 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,440 Dogs. 1177 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:09,440 Dogs and many other animals. 1178 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,440 I'll euthanize any deer or bear. 1179 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,440 We can't find the owner. 1180 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,440 No alligators. 1181 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,440 No alligators. 1182 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,440 We could all get a cat in a container after. 1183 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,440 Well, for the most part, if we can find the owner, then the owner would take care of 1184 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,440 it. 1185 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:17,440 Yeah. 1186 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,440 Yeah. 1187 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,440 Yeah. 1188 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:20,440 Yeah. 1189 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,440 Yeah. 1190 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,440 Yeah. 1191 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,440 Yeah. 1192 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,440 Yeah. 1193 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,440 Yeah. 1194 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,440 Yeah. 1195 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,809 Yeah. 1196 01:07:28,809 --> 01:07:29,809 Yeah. 1197 01:07:29,809 --> 01:07:30,809 Yeah. 1198 01:07:30,809 --> 01:07:31,809 Yeah. 1199 01:07:31,809 --> 01:07:32,809 Yeah. 1200 01:07:32,809 --> 01:07:33,809 Yeah. 1201 01:07:33,809 --> 01:07:34,809 Yeah. 1202 01:07:34,809 --> 01:07:35,809 Yeah. 1203 01:07:35,809 --> 01:07:36,809 Yeah. 1204 01:07:36,809 --> 01:07:37,809 Yeah. 1205 01:07:37,809 --> 01:07:38,809 Yeah. 1206 01:07:38,809 --> 01:07:39,809 Yeah. 1207 01:07:39,809 --> 01:07:40,809 Yeah. 1208 01:07:40,809 --> 01:07:41,809 Yeah. 1209 01:07:41,809 --> 01:07:42,809 Yeah. 1210 01:07:42,809 --> 01:07:43,809 Yeah. 1211 01:07:43,809 --> 01:07:44,809 Yeah. 1212 01:07:44,809 --> 01:07:45,809 Yeah. 1213 01:07:45,809 --> 01:07:46,809 Sure. 1214 01:07:46,809 --> 01:07:47,809 Yeah. 1215 01:07:47,809 --> 01:07:48,809 Yeah. 1216 01:07:48,809 --> 01:07:49,809 Yeah. 1217 01:07:49,809 --> 01:07:50,809 Yeah. 1218 01:07:50,809 --> 01:07:51,809 I love this- 1219 01:07:51,809 --> 01:07:52,809 Hue. 1220 01:07:52,809 --> 01:07:53,809 Hue? 1221 01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:54,809 Hue. 1222 01:07:54,809 --> 01:07:55,809 Yes sir. 1223 01:07:55,809 --> 01:07:56,809 I love this. 1224 01:07:56,809 --> 01:07:58,960 Thank you. 1225 01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:59,960 Thank you. 1226 01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:03,030 You can come back for a meeting tomorrow coming up. 1227 01:08:03,030 --> 01:08:04,030 Yes sir. 1228 01:08:04,030 --> 01:08:27,229 the board anything else on town meeting ethics commission update last week doug laurie and i 1229 01:08:27,229 --> 01:08:34,800 worked on paperwork we have tons of it we're almost there laurie you need to send me the 1230 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,489 conflict of interest that's right so there was a couple little parts that you wanted 1231 01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:51,789 to update our conflict of interest our policy and we'll continue working on that 1232 01:08:51,789 --> 01:09:04,220 review job descriptions um i gave dave the job descriptions for recycling and position 1233 01:09:05,260 --> 01:09:10,779 and you have them with you i mean i think we if you got something just sat down and 1234 01:09:11,420 --> 01:09:23,960 then this one i brought what we expect i think i agree with that okay when's a good time when it's 1235 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:36,520 that story i'll call you yeah nancy call dave anybody else 1236 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:51,159 else wants to be in on this we'll uh yep we'll bring it back to the board correspondence signed 1237 01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:59,760 uniform municipal excess weight permit from belco so i have belco and i actually got one from rk miles 1238 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:13,640 today 1239 01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:33,119 papers were attached and they're checked 1240 01:10:34,590 --> 01:10:36,350 jim bucks can't miss out on that 1241 01:10:38,590 --> 01:10:40,029 where do we got that dog from 1242 01:10:43,869 --> 01:10:52,909 can i motion to sign them motion all in favor all business oh any other correspondence laurie 1243 01:10:56,109 --> 01:11:12,829 all business we haven't heard anything from pbr regarding our letter to them so and to go along 1244 01:11:12,829 --> 01:11:13,789 with that we did 1245 01:11:15,390 --> 01:11:21,949 sign the contract for nimric two weeks ago two selecting two board meetings though 1246 01:11:21,949 --> 01:11:26,189 whenever we didn't send it in but i think we've got to send it in 1247 01:11:27,630 --> 01:11:34,109 yeah we can't appoint listers for 30 days and april 1st they have to start working on the grand 1248 01:11:34,109 --> 01:11:40,510 list and the listers aren't going to be up to speed on that so we'll have to hire nimric but 1249 01:11:41,710 --> 01:11:44,189 um when we appoint them 1250 01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:48,119 we can ask our contractor to work with our listers too 1251 01:11:51,819 --> 01:11:57,289 what we're happening do we have to put out the bed again what's happening we have to put it out 1252 01:11:57,289 --> 01:12:05,869 the bed again the contract yes we you know i we could do we have to no they are they're already 1253 01:12:05,869 --> 01:12:13,600 under contract to make sure you know what they don't want to do it then we're stuck we only had 1254 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,720 them last year yeah i know that's what i'm getting around to we only have yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 1255 01:12:17,119 --> 01:12:25,529 so i would say send it in yep of course too late and hopefully someone's up for it 1256 01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:34,939 um 1257 01:12:41,739 --> 01:12:46,619 shrubs at the school and i spoke to the principal and she was going to check into it 1258 01:12:47,180 --> 01:12:53,479 why the shrubs were put there if they wanted them to cover the windows or 1259 01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:56,760 for whatever reason or if they want us to take them down 1260 01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,340 we'll have more pictures to see if they used to be trimmed up yeah check it out 1261 01:13:02,729 --> 01:13:04,010 you have to keep it over there 1262 01:13:07,689 --> 01:13:11,289 is it a safety issue that's what someone brought that up before 1263 01:13:11,930 --> 01:13:15,500 i mean can they open the window and get out i don't know 1264 01:13:17,020 --> 01:13:20,699 those scrubs are pretty they used to be i mean they were fairly close to the school years ago so 1265 01:13:20,699 --> 01:13:23,819 i imagine they're probably touching the building at this point but it's just again 1266 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:29,199 and school safety will change a little bit probably here they could just go out the floor 1267 01:13:44,489 --> 01:13:54,970 any other old business new business joint meeting with town and school i spoke to the principal 1268 01:13:54,970 --> 01:13:57,050 yes we have a new school board 1269 01:13:59,869 --> 01:14:00,109 so 1270 01:14:00,109 --> 01:14:09,939 So does this board want to have a joint meeting with just the school board, one meeting, and then another time have an all-boards meeting? 1271 01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:12,359 Do you want to institute these all-boards meetings again? 1272 01:14:12,699 --> 01:14:17,920 Well, I think that we should at least send a letter out for all boards and see what the boards think. 1273 01:14:18,659 --> 01:14:22,399 You know, we had someone complain to me tonight about not having communication. 1274 01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:30,130 Well, if we had the boards and if those boards met more than once a year, maybe they would be more involved. 1275 01:14:30,130 --> 01:14:34,810 Because I've almost viewed that some of the other boards are submitting information to us, not us. 1276 01:14:35,069 --> 01:14:36,930 Oh, yeah, I agree. 1277 01:14:38,090 --> 01:14:40,850 But I think we should separate that from the school board. 1278 01:14:40,869 --> 01:14:43,449 Have two separate, I think so, otherwise it would be too... 1279 01:14:43,449 --> 01:14:47,470 I mean, the all-board thing could just be as, you know, once a year or something. 1280 01:14:47,470 --> 01:14:53,930 If the chairs want to just go, then, you know, we're not making any decisions. 1281 01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:56,470 It's just an informational thing. 1282 01:14:57,470 --> 01:14:57,989 Jim? 1283 01:14:59,109 --> 01:14:59,470 I just want to... 1284 01:15:00,130 --> 01:15:06,449 I wanted to wait for this part of bringing up the all-boards meeting is, I think that's a great thing to do. 1285 01:15:06,890 --> 01:15:14,409 I also think it's kind of important for this board to address every board equally. 1286 01:15:14,529 --> 01:15:23,470 As far as I'm talking about rules and how, you know, you guys govern yourself here and the kind of rules that you have to initiate. 1287 01:15:23,470 --> 01:15:26,630 It's state law that you have to have rules anyways for every board. 1288 01:15:27,289 --> 01:15:29,970 But I mean, you guys are our guidance, right? 1289 01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:30,069 Yeah. 1290 01:15:30,069 --> 01:15:39,869 And so, I'm on the planning commission, and the first day I sat down in my chair, I said, well, you know, what do we have for the planning commission? 1291 01:15:39,989 --> 01:15:40,550 What's the rules? 1292 01:15:40,689 --> 01:15:41,510 Oh, we have my rules here. 1293 01:15:41,909 --> 01:15:42,390 No rules. 1294 01:15:43,789 --> 01:15:46,350 So, and it's evident. 1295 01:15:47,109 --> 01:15:47,649 Oh, I know. 1296 01:15:47,949 --> 01:15:48,550 Very evident. 1297 01:15:48,890 --> 01:15:52,630 And so, I'd like to see some direction in that. 1298 01:15:52,770 --> 01:15:54,090 I know there's manuals. 1299 01:15:54,090 --> 01:15:58,670 I have copies, or I have it on my phone where I can print them all out. 1300 01:15:58,770 --> 01:15:59,630 I can't do that in my house. 1301 01:15:59,729 --> 01:16:00,329 I don't have it in my house. 1302 01:16:00,449 --> 01:16:01,970 I can't make money for anything. 1303 01:16:02,909 --> 01:16:07,619 So, but there's handbooks, albeit they're kind of old. 1304 01:16:07,619 --> 01:16:13,720 But still, but there is, I mean, what do you guys use for sets of rules? 1305 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,560 Is there standard Vermont rules and regulations for boards? 1306 01:16:18,220 --> 01:16:23,279 I mean, and does each board have its own specific rules? 1307 01:16:23,399 --> 01:16:25,000 And that's, I'll leave it at that. 1308 01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:26,840 We do have a select board handbook. 1309 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,140 Yep. 1310 01:16:27,380 --> 01:16:29,960 You can go on Vermont League of Cities and Towns and read them. 1311 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:30,600 Yeah. 1312 01:16:30,819 --> 01:16:31,619 I have. 1313 01:16:31,619 --> 01:16:32,680 No, I understand. 1314 01:16:32,939 --> 01:16:34,640 We don't follow Robert's rules. 1315 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,060 No, we're too small. 1316 01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:38,420 Robert's rules are the default. 1317 01:16:38,859 --> 01:16:39,300 Right. 1318 01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:45,920 Governing situation, unless you provide otherwise or announce and decide. 1319 01:16:46,460 --> 01:16:49,920 Well, we can't take part of Robert's, because Robert's rules are a lot bigger. 1320 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:50,800 Too big for. 1321 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,260 But we do kind of, you know, use it as a. 1322 01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:56,119 The state modifies Robert's rules for town leading. 1323 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:56,680 Yeah. 1324 01:16:57,970 --> 01:17:01,810 But I, you know, given that, I did watch your last plan. 1325 01:17:01,909 --> 01:17:03,760 Board video. 1326 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:10,460 I'll tell you, these videos are nice because, you know, at first I thought, oh, geez, why are you taping the select board? 1327 01:17:10,460 --> 01:17:11,779 But you're taping other boards. 1328 01:17:11,779 --> 01:17:17,100 And that's nice because there are nights where there's two board meetings going on at the same time. 1329 01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:17,399 Right. 1330 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:25,039 You know, but it's nice to have that and see that, especially as a select board member, you watch the plan board. 1331 01:17:25,399 --> 01:17:31,460 What happens when your chair of your planning board is the problem for it? 1332 01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:32,180 Not that he is. 1333 01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:34,260 But it would if it was. 1334 01:17:34,579 --> 01:17:35,340 Just saying. 1335 01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:45,359 But if you got, you know, two people arguing and the chair can't break order, you know, that's when they need to come to the select board. 1336 01:17:45,460 --> 01:17:48,260 And the select board has to say, hey, guys, here's the rules. 1337 01:17:48,899 --> 01:17:49,819 Knock it off. 1338 01:17:50,039 --> 01:17:53,100 You know, I know things can get heated. 1339 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,359 I've never heated. 1340 01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:57,359 I've never seen Nancy. 1341 01:17:59,060 --> 01:18:00,420 John, I don't want to see. 1342 01:18:00,420 --> 01:18:00,460 I don't want to see. 1343 01:18:02,260 --> 01:18:06,479 But, you know, I understand. 1344 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,560 I understand that things get heated. 1345 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:18,220 But when they just keep spinning their wheels and name calling, it gets to the point where, you know, you're right. 1346 01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:19,520 People are watching that now. 1347 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,479 It's embarrassing. 1348 01:18:20,539 --> 01:18:22,119 It's embarrassing and it's wasted hours. 1349 01:18:22,460 --> 01:18:23,579 Hours, not minutes. 1350 01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:24,699 Yeah, I know. 1351 01:18:24,899 --> 01:18:25,539 Yeah, I saw it. 1352 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:26,319 It was amazing. 1353 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,899 And I just want to say, you were all at home. 1354 01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:32,079 I used to have it on the air for the night. 1355 01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:33,359 And then the quorum. 1356 01:18:33,939 --> 01:18:36,000 So we are going to cover that after this meeting. 1357 01:18:36,819 --> 01:18:37,920 Because that wasn't interesting. 1358 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,199 Sure. 1359 01:18:38,319 --> 01:18:38,899 And it felt like. 1360 01:18:38,899 --> 01:18:45,060 You know, I hope that you can do it internally at your own board and not have to come here and say, we're going to remove the members. 1361 01:18:45,859 --> 01:18:46,460 Right, right. 1362 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:47,699 Well, this, we're going to cover it. 1363 01:18:47,979 --> 01:18:52,520 This happened a while ago with another board that came to me. 1364 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,420 And I said, you're an elected people. 1365 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:57,779 This was an election. 1366 01:18:58,359 --> 01:18:58,520 Yeah. 1367 01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,300 Elected board. 1368 01:18:59,560 --> 01:18:59,779 Mm-hmm. 1369 01:19:00,630 --> 01:19:02,029 Figure it out among yourselves. 1370 01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:05,569 I, and the select board, do not have any power over it. 1371 01:19:05,609 --> 01:19:06,909 Work it out amongst yourselves. 1372 01:19:07,109 --> 01:19:09,010 You're only, you're a board. 1373 01:19:09,109 --> 01:19:09,770 You're big people. 1374 01:19:10,069 --> 01:19:10,569 Get along. 1375 01:19:11,539 --> 01:19:12,380 And I think you did. 1376 01:19:14,329 --> 01:19:16,510 Thank you so much. 1377 01:19:16,670 --> 01:19:22,250 I'm just thinking, you know, topic, you know, for your meetings. 1378 01:19:22,409 --> 01:19:22,649 Sure. 1379 01:19:22,649 --> 01:19:26,170 We're also going to hand out a short thing of Robert's rules to everybody. 1380 01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:29,229 Not to treat them like children, but just as a baseline. 1381 01:19:29,970 --> 01:19:30,409 Sure. 1382 01:19:31,170 --> 01:19:31,310 Yeah. 1383 01:19:32,029 --> 01:19:32,630 Good luck. 1384 01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:32,989 We don't know. 1385 01:19:33,189 --> 01:19:33,729 Good luck. 1386 01:19:34,109 --> 01:19:34,289 Mm-hmm. 1387 01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:34,750 Good luck. 1388 01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:35,609 Good luck. 1389 01:19:35,930 --> 01:19:39,670 So back to the joint meeting between the select board and the school board. 1390 01:19:40,609 --> 01:19:43,329 Kirk, can you set this up as school liaison? 1391 01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:43,970 Sure. 1392 01:19:44,109 --> 01:19:44,770 Who am I contacting? 1393 01:19:44,989 --> 01:19:47,710 You know, the one there, she's, they don't have a chair. 1394 01:19:47,810 --> 01:19:48,369 They don't have a chair. 1395 01:19:48,369 --> 01:19:48,569 Right. 1396 01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:49,609 As soon as they. 1397 01:19:49,829 --> 01:19:51,149 What are they meeting next, you know? 1398 01:19:51,930 --> 01:19:53,649 Probably soon, because they're going to have to. 1399 01:19:53,649 --> 01:19:54,810 I think they're the second board. 1400 01:19:54,810 --> 01:19:56,130 I think they do the second board. 1401 01:19:56,489 --> 01:19:56,890 Tuesday. 1402 01:19:57,710 --> 01:19:58,489 They changed today. 1403 01:19:58,569 --> 01:20:00,850 They're under a time constraint now for a report. 1404 01:20:00,850 --> 01:20:01,449 I'll find out. 1405 01:20:01,449 --> 01:20:03,029 Seems like last year they had a lot of. 1406 01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:05,289 A lot of changes in the nights. 1407 01:20:05,489 --> 01:20:06,029 I'll find out. 1408 01:20:06,109 --> 01:20:07,130 I'll reach out to them and just say. 1409 01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:08,250 I'll reach out to them and just say. 1410 01:20:08,250 --> 01:20:08,470 I'll change it. 1411 01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:09,350 I'll set it up anyway. 1412 01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:09,829 Yeah. 1413 01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:10,470 Yeah. 1414 01:20:10,529 --> 01:20:15,010 It'll probably be after their next vote because. 1415 01:20:15,210 --> 01:20:17,130 Who's going to create a moderator for their meeting? 1416 01:20:17,770 --> 01:20:20,489 It's only, it's only informational meetings. 1417 01:20:22,529 --> 01:20:23,149 It's not a. 1418 01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:25,590 It's Australian, it's Australian ballot. 1419 01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:26,189 We have a vote. 1420 01:20:26,329 --> 01:20:26,710 A moderator. 1421 01:20:27,050 --> 01:20:27,109 Yeah. 1422 01:20:28,609 --> 01:20:33,890 Their next, does their Australian ballot vote got defeated? 1423 01:20:34,289 --> 01:20:34,770 Yeah. 1424 01:20:34,850 --> 01:20:38,390 They've got to go back to the board and get, and have, yeah. 1425 01:20:38,430 --> 01:20:39,369 I thought it was approved. 1426 01:20:40,069 --> 01:20:42,729 Future meetings would be on the floor. 1427 01:20:42,850 --> 01:20:43,029 Right. 1428 01:20:43,170 --> 01:20:47,010 But the budget meeting was voted by Australian ballot. 1429 01:20:47,010 --> 01:20:52,270 So according to school laws, it's the re-vote's got to be Australian ballot. 1430 01:20:52,430 --> 01:20:55,109 So they're going to have to do an informational meeting. 1431 01:20:55,710 --> 01:20:56,630 No moderator. 1432 01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:00,890 All, probably all day election, I think, voting. 1433 01:21:01,170 --> 01:21:02,529 They're going to do the ballot first. 1434 01:21:03,420 --> 01:21:03,600 Yeah. 1435 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:03,960 Boy. 1436 01:21:04,579 --> 01:21:05,140 I. 1437 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,479 I believe that's how it's going to be handled. 1438 01:21:07,819 --> 01:21:08,439 Or cookies. 1439 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,039 Or cookies, all right. 1440 01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:11,340 But it should be an early night. 1441 01:21:11,340 --> 01:21:12,539 It should be an early night. 1442 01:21:12,539 --> 01:21:15,039 Try that at the next, public meeting, or whatever. 1443 01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:15,140 Yeah. 1444 01:21:15,140 --> 01:21:15,720 Or cookies. 1445 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,319 Well, once we know who's here, yeah. 1446 01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:19,239 That Australian ballot vote. 1447 01:21:19,699 --> 01:21:21,779 They're going to want to get through this match before they have it. 1448 01:21:21,779 --> 01:21:24,439 Is not going to be in effect for this meeting, for that matter. 1449 01:21:24,939 --> 01:21:30,579 So in effect, they will have voted their own officers before this information meeting? 1450 01:21:31,689 --> 01:21:33,050 Their own officers. 1451 01:21:33,289 --> 01:21:33,810 They could. 1452 01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:34,430 They're all. 1453 01:21:34,710 --> 01:21:35,430 If they have any. 1454 01:21:35,930 --> 01:21:36,430 Yeah. 1455 01:21:36,430 --> 01:21:36,930 Yeah. 1456 01:21:36,930 --> 01:21:37,430 Yes. 1457 01:21:38,460 --> 01:21:38,960 Okay. 1458 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,640 Because the election was okay. 1459 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,640 And they have something to run the meeting for. 1460 01:21:43,260 --> 01:21:43,760 Yes. 1461 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:49,380 Yeah. 1462 01:21:49,380 --> 01:21:50,380 Are we done with the open? 1463 01:21:50,380 --> 01:21:51,710 Yes. 1464 01:21:51,710 --> 01:21:52,210 Yeah. 1465 01:21:52,210 --> 01:21:53,210 We already went through open, so we're on. 1466 01:21:53,210 --> 01:21:54,210 Yes, I have a question for you. 1467 01:21:54,210 --> 01:21:54,710 Sure. 1468 01:21:54,710 --> 01:22:00,590 When is the date of the Planning Commission informational meeting date and time of the hearing? 1469 01:22:00,590 --> 01:22:01,090 Yes. 1470 01:22:01,090 --> 01:22:01,590 Is it 24? 1471 01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:02,090 4. 1472 01:22:02,090 --> 01:22:02,590 It's 7. 1473 01:22:02,590 --> 01:22:03,090 3. 1474 01:22:03,090 --> 01:22:04,090 1, 2, 3, 4. 1475 01:22:04,090 --> 01:22:05,550 7. 1476 01:22:05,550 --> 01:22:09,430 What was the hearing? 1477 01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:09,930 Yeah. 1478 01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:14,359 Can I just circle back some? 1479 01:22:14,359 --> 01:22:14,859 Yep. 1480 01:22:14,859 --> 01:22:17,859 I just want to ask Lori if that DCRC letter went through. 1481 01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:19,100 Yes, it did. 1482 01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:20,100 Did you send an email also? 1483 01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,100 I did just now, ma'am. 1484 01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,100 I can send an email if you'd like. 1485 01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:23,229 I don't know. 1486 01:22:23,229 --> 01:22:24,229 That's what I was advised. 1487 01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:25,229 Okay. 1488 01:22:25,229 --> 01:22:26,229 We can do that. 1489 01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:27,229 I don't know. 1490 01:22:27,229 --> 01:22:28,229 Yeah. 1491 01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:29,229 That's fine. 1492 01:22:29,229 --> 01:22:30,229 Because we have a DCRC on the 20th, so I just wanted to know before I go. 1493 01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:31,229 Yes. 1494 01:22:31,229 --> 01:22:32,800 I'll send that tomorrow. 1495 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:33,800 Okay. 1496 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:34,800 Thank you. 1497 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:35,800 Any other new business? 1498 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:36,800 Yes. 1499 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,800 Why? 1500 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:38,800 You thought you were gone? 1501 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:39,800 You can go. 1502 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,800 Thank you. 1503 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:41,800 Thank you. 1504 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,800 Thank you. 1505 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,489 Thank you. 1506 01:22:46,489 --> 01:22:47,489 Thank you. 1507 01:22:47,489 --> 01:22:48,489 Thank you. 1508 01:22:48,489 --> 01:22:49,750 Thank you. 1509 01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:50,750 Thank you. 1510 01:22:50,750 --> 01:22:51,750 Thank you. 1511 01:22:51,750 --> 01:22:52,750 Thank you. 1512 01:22:52,750 --> 01:22:53,750 Okay, dose it. 1513 01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:54,750 Okay. 1514 01:22:54,750 --> 01:22:55,750 Thank you, sir. 1515 01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:57,000 Yeah. 1516 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,000 During the town meeting, a subject matter came up about funding. 1517 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:04,420 We've got future needs I guess or whatever you want to call those. 1518 01:23:04,420 --> 01:23:12,159 But we were talking about putting money away for later on and it came because people asked 1519 01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:19,380 me if the chair or the commission or whatever you want to call it could spend that money. 1520 01:23:19,380 --> 01:23:25,279 I know that Dave has a limit on how much money he could spend. 1521 01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:25,840 Yes, sir. 1522 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:31,359 tell him okay dave if it's this much money anything over that you come to the board and ask like you 1523 01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:36,880 can't go spend a hundred thousand dollars on a new truck without asking for it okay i have to spend 1524 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:43,680 them within my budget right and then in there isn't there a where we we said you could go down 1525 01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,159 to another hardware store or something wasn't there something around that thousand dollars 1526 01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:56,800 limit on that credit card right so the reason why i'm bringing this up is there's a committee 1527 01:23:58,069 --> 01:24:04,399 that has quite a bit of money can they spend it any way they want as much as they want 1528 01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:14,000 the cemetery has 40 something thousand dollars right well the 33 000 out of that point 1529 01:24:16,039 --> 01:24:22,359 it's always been always been set up as a perpetual taking care of the cemetery 1530 01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:29,319 like luke said well you repaired monuments before i remember sheila was on the board then they 1531 01:24:29,319 --> 01:24:34,039 repaired the monuments it was cleaning the limestone they cleaned the limestone monuments 1532 01:24:34,039 --> 01:24:39,960 and stuff yeah one of them was a great big one down uh buying more land if they ever had to but 1533 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:45,239 probably not anymore because of the uh so say they wanted to buy again they could take thirty thousand 1534 01:24:45,239 --> 01:24:49,720 dollars go buy a piece of land well oh no they can't do it on their own well that's my question 1535 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,439 yeah i don't i don't believe they can we can't 1536 01:24:53,079 --> 01:24:59,800 that would use for a big project right remember when the the whole monument fell down and that 1537 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:06,439 column was laying on the ground they used something from that they used it for cleaning stones 1538 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:15,880 but there's a well i heard the number 43 000 right like that and i'm just wondering if someone 1539 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:21,960 if if that committee could take that 43 000 tomorrow and say i want to do this project 1540 01:25:23,029 --> 01:25:28,149 do they have to answer to anybody that's all i'm asking and again this is not a personal thing 1541 01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:32,560 i thought about it and i'm like that's all i have that's a good question i don't know 1542 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:37,119 would could they just vote and you will have the committee maybe you can't you elect those people 1543 01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:45,670 to administer the cemetery okay yeah i don't know how you can so this board wouldn't be able 1544 01:25:45,670 --> 01:25:50,949 to control that you have no control of it right i'm curious anybody else okay no that's right 1545 01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:57,430 about it like we're just talking about rules for boards i'm curious if now that they have rules 1546 01:25:57,430 --> 01:26:02,789 about how well if what if that was um four hundred thousand dollars yeah right the same you know 1547 01:26:02,789 --> 01:26:10,319 because it's the same answer no matter what the amount is you know ultimately you first offered 1548 01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:15,760 the question as to future needs and i didn't know you were specifically talking about the cemetery 1549 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:23,829 yeah the future needs that the town holds the town has to release publicly but back to the 1550 01:26:23,829 --> 01:26:33,109 cemetery like you said there's 43 000 44 000 33 is for that perpetual care so it's about ten thousand 1551 01:26:33,109 --> 01:26:38,399 that so it's not much then like you said and if they go over i'm mowing or they need more gravel 1552 01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:44,159 or and again it is it's again it's not a personal thing i thought about it i said wait what's this 1553 01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:45,840 number yeah i'll hide it and hide it and hide it 1554 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:51,600 i don't know can someone that is elected this well say i'm going to spend this money and 1555 01:26:52,319 --> 01:26:56,800 it sounds like they could i mean they might not get re-elected but the money's gone 1556 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:06,159 as a group they could yeah yeah so we also have so you're trying to you ought to pay attention 1557 01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:11,119 that you're just not letting everybody who wants us i'll sign up for the cemetery committee you 1558 01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:14,640 might want to have some fun about who you know we should definitely have more fun 1559 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,680 exactly that's a vote you know there's nothing you're going to sound pointless but 1560 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,399 no how many people are they're all they're all they're on here 1561 01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:36,319 look at the library they have 20 000 in a savings account and nobody picked up on that 1562 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:41,840 no and i guess my whole question would whether it's a cemetery that number of 40 000 1563 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,359 didn't hit me but whether it's the cemetery the library any 1564 01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:56,119 monies out there that can be spent i just want to know how how much leniency do the board have 1565 01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:03,750 the library commission has used money to refurbish the library additional shelves and books and 1566 01:28:04,609 --> 01:28:10,239 furniture yep they've got their own governing board the trustees 1567 01:28:12,500 --> 01:28:16,180 and they're elected too i don't know whether they would they show what they spent with 1568 01:28:16,819 --> 01:28:24,289 this past year no i i agree with you we could have on the town meeting we could have said 1569 01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:29,569 we're not voting for that budget we want to make an amendment we'd like to vote for this about 1570 01:28:30,449 --> 01:28:35,329 but nobody did but it makes me laugh because on the other hand they voted 1571 01:28:35,329 --> 01:28:41,649 to 1450 charities that we get nothing from well let's just slow just slow hanging for a week i 1572 01:28:41,649 --> 01:28:47,090 mean what did we say we have sixteen hundred dollars between how many people in town pay taxes 1573 01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:52,770 on the cemetery i mean what would we say even two cents i mean we saved nothing 1574 01:28:52,770 --> 01:29:01,329 i just i guess was the whole question is is if whether it's forty thousand four hundred 1575 01:29:01,329 --> 01:29:06,369 thousand or four million can you just do are they allowed to spend the money without any 1576 01:29:07,329 --> 01:29:11,970 no question question yeah but it's like kind of three and we only got three board members 1577 01:29:11,970 --> 01:29:17,010 it just seems like in them not accusing anyone of anything it just seems like the 1578 01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:23,409 more that number goes up there yes so if the answer is yes it is a good idea to think about 1579 01:29:23,409 --> 01:29:29,569 who you vote for uh because if you voted for it they're all they're all they're all and you give 1580 01:29:29,569 --> 01:29:33,090 me three million dollars 1581 01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:45,000 that 33 000 though came from sale of aerial lots 1582 01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:46,520 now 1583 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,720 nowadays you probably will be cremation and they're allowing 1584 01:29:52,279 --> 01:29:58,199 i think four cremations in one single lot making less money yeah just curious how much how much 1585 01:29:58,199 --> 01:30:02,520 land do we have left in the public summit there is as far as a lot shield do you know 1586 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:08,680 you know how many lots roughly are left in town in either cemetery up here yes either one 1587 01:30:11,319 --> 01:30:16,119 run up and none in a and b just down on them by bruises 1588 01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:23,000 the impulse of the lots left really not many there are not that well some but not i don't 1589 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,479 know how many because i haven't been on the commission for about five or six years so i 1590 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,800 guess the point being someday they're going to have to have another cemetery that would continue to 1591 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:37,640 you know bury people in the ground if people not people choose to yeah get buried in heaven yep 1592 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:42,600 because over that potent cemetery that's got to be full that's full maybe they have one 1593 01:30:43,399 --> 01:30:47,159 they're making one soul that's not used yet or something one cremation could go in there so that's not a good idea 1594 01:30:47,319 --> 01:30:54,880 in which whole no i agree that i mean there's literally only maybe maybe six or seven burials 1595 01:30:54,880 --> 01:31:01,520 right in my entire life it's got a big rock i think too you have one all right looks but it's 1596 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:11,510 got a big rock so you wouldn't use it um back to town meaning i just thought there was it was 1597 01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:18,359 very quiet very quiet no i think so or i thought that was quite well yeah 1598 01:31:19,239 --> 01:31:22,840 and not a lot of questions 1599 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:27,880 if you wanted no opinion instead of just factual stuff i kind of kept my mouth shut but 1600 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,880 it boggles my mind just like we were talking about these committees against biden 1601 01:31:33,220 --> 01:31:37,539 the first meeting we went through was two and a half million dollars and there was three questions 1602 01:31:37,539 --> 01:31:45,189 asked three questions asked the select will already town meeting each and every warrant 1603 01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:50,159 article there was a question asked multiple questions on some of them which is great i'm 1604 01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:56,159 i love the questions i love the dialogue out of a million dollars for the town 1605 01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:01,039 two and a half million dollars three questions asked that's it watch next year a lot of years 1606 01:32:01,039 --> 01:32:07,199 when the school goes second people just get up and leave i don't know what the reason is it's 1607 01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:11,279 almost like i think it's a misunderstanding it's a misunderstanding it's a little more complicated 1608 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:20,579 i don't know whether how many people currently but traditionally understood that no matter what you do 1609 01:32:20,739 --> 01:32:26,979 could reduce or change the total amount for the school budget but you can't touch you cannot 1610 01:32:26,979 --> 01:32:34,930 dictate what happens on individual items the same the opposite is with the town budget you know it's 1611 01:32:34,930 --> 01:32:41,760 the whole budget or none for the school yourself no you can take you can take all you can take ten 1612 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:46,479 thousand dollars out of the school budget but you can't tell the school directors where it's going 1613 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:50,720 to stop oh let's get it right right so you have one item to talk about when you get it 1614 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:56,899 to the town meeting if you don't want to buy lori a new five thousand dollar typewriter 1615 01:32:57,859 --> 01:33:03,569 you can argue about it right i got you yep this is cool this is super regular 1616 01:33:06,770 --> 01:33:09,649 it just seems like we have no control over it so 1617 01:33:10,369 --> 01:33:15,970 we don't you know it does it seems like that's the message you get but if you look just like sheila 1618 01:33:15,970 --> 01:33:20,930 was talking about pushing back against the state yeah if the board and i'm not calling the board 1619 01:33:21,409 --> 01:33:26,930 i'm just saying that the board voiced an opinion once in a while and just said hey look we don't 1620 01:33:26,930 --> 01:33:32,710 feel this is right i mean and again this is a place for the school board meetings i should be 1621 01:33:32,710 --> 01:33:39,829 over here talking about it but a lot of times it's conflicting but you have a tough time and 1622 01:33:39,829 --> 01:33:47,970 the superintendent takes a 12 13 raise with no questions asked you know and those are the things 1623 01:33:47,970 --> 01:33:52,050 that it just as a taxpayer not a board member of a taxpayer i look for that a little bit i'm going to use this to get people you know the백 1624 01:33:52,210 --> 01:34:00,260 can go how long are we going to keep throwing money at it and have failing grades i asked 1625 01:34:00,260 --> 01:34:05,779 a question about grades can you imagine almost 80 percent of children are not efficient at math 80 1626 01:34:08,579 --> 01:34:13,220 i think what jim was telling me in higher education they make it so easy that you better 1627 01:34:13,220 --> 01:34:18,420 pass it right yeah higher education he's got children in higher education i won't say where 1628 01:34:18,420 --> 01:34:23,380 it is but these kids are taking tests that they should be taking in fifth grade 1629 01:34:24,260 --> 01:34:31,140 up in high schools but some of these things go back to state curriculum because 1630 01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:37,300 as the superintendent talked about and it was also in some of the bennington papers 1631 01:34:37,859 --> 01:34:40,819 this is reflected by the whole state it's a big problem 1632 01:34:41,699 --> 01:34:46,340 i agree those levels of not being up to grade level i mean what are we worldwide 1633 01:34:48,739 --> 01:34:53,380 it's already important yeah it's up there i mean and look at the vermont look at vermont 1634 01:34:54,819 --> 01:35:01,140 and our neighborhood is not now i'm not a big fan of that but what are they doing in education 1635 01:35:01,140 --> 01:35:06,420 different than we want to send them but that's i'm yeah i know it's spooky in a school book 1636 01:35:08,819 --> 01:35:12,899 if anyone gets the deerfield valley news what they want to do with the 1637 01:35:12,899 --> 01:35:18,659 schools combined and have five supervisor unions districts and 1638 01:35:18,739 --> 01:35:24,899 for the whole state for the whole state and this local school board will only be advisory 1639 01:35:24,899 --> 01:35:29,380 talk about not knowing what's going on now imagine when you don't instead of a regional 1640 01:35:29,380 --> 01:35:33,220 we have a statewide for the whole state that's going to be three of them or right one in the 1641 01:35:33,220 --> 01:35:39,539 middle and whatnot yeah i don't think it's a law yet so it's going to be tweaked a whole lot but 1642 01:35:41,300 --> 01:35:44,819 that's the super board that they've had for maybe the last 10 years 1643 01:35:45,539 --> 01:35:48,180 is it kind of represent they only send representatives 1644 01:35:48,739 --> 01:35:54,100 from individual school boards they've got no choice but to consolidate right there's no other 1645 01:35:54,100 --> 01:36:02,760 option and can i go back to town meeting again um someone brought up about voting and voice voting 1646 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:09,079 and paddles and all that mark whippers yes and uh that will be something probably will come up to a 1647 01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:15,479 vca meeting that we might want to discuss if we want to do that but the other option is just call 1648 01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:19,140 for paper ballot and then you have a secret vote that's going to be a vote that's going to be a 1649 01:36:19,140 --> 01:36:19,199 vote that's going to be a vote that's going to be a vote that's going to be a vote that's going to 1650 01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:20,479 be a vote that's going to be a vote that you're a friend 1651 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:32,930 that town meeting and i get and i saw mark again here the next morning 1652 01:36:33,729 --> 01:36:39,729 and we have discussed it in the past it's not the first time that somebody brought up the concern 1653 01:36:40,609 --> 01:36:46,289 and you have the people who as mark pointed out you get a group of people with loud voices and 1654 01:36:46,289 --> 01:36:49,409 they don't want to shout yes the other side of it 1655 01:36:49,489 --> 01:36:58,609 is i think we need and i'm i'm going to try and put down on paper basic rules and regulations and 1656 01:36:59,409 --> 01:37:06,239 the way of operation i used to try to educate everybody just a little bit at the beginning of 1657 01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:13,939 each town meeting if you're not happy with the vote what do you need to stand up and say paper 1658 01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:21,899 counted by none i don't believe it's accurate when the moderator says it's passed or it isn't 1659 01:37:22,859 --> 01:37:29,180 i challenge that have a show of hands it was very quiet nobody challenged anything to what he 1660 01:37:29,180 --> 01:37:34,699 did until it was a little bit late well you know a great example of that was when we had atv meetings 1661 01:37:34,699 --> 01:37:40,140 there was many people who were named town residents they're my voters and they had no 1662 01:37:40,140 --> 01:37:51,649 news loud i hope you know the voices of opinions well again somebody's not gonna set the rules 1663 01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:53,199 well maybe 1664 01:37:53,520 --> 01:38:06,029 somebody's gotta make it clear that you only have the right to vote or your right to be heard 1665 01:38:06,029 --> 01:38:10,670 if you're a registered voter yes being the landowner doesn't entirely do anything 1666 01:38:10,670 --> 01:38:16,670 if you didn't come register to vote well sometimes they separate them non-voters over there voters 1667 01:38:16,670 --> 01:38:23,069 over here that's potentially a good start we could do that you know it's really hard if you've done 1668 01:38:23,069 --> 01:38:28,829 something the same way you know from my standpoint 40 odd years when you were comfortable 1669 01:38:28,829 --> 01:38:35,229 and trusted townspeople yes i think during a discussion like you said there have been like 1670 01:38:35,229 --> 01:38:40,829 if we were talking about what we're going to do with the camp roads and you have eight camp owners 1671 01:38:40,829 --> 01:38:45,869 that are out of staters during the discussion they want to get up and talk i think they should be able 1672 01:38:45,869 --> 01:38:51,869 to ask at least be able to ask permission to talk i think that would be a great idea to let them talk 1673 01:38:53,069 --> 01:38:58,670 um because they do have some skin in the game but when you have people just you know showing up just 1674 01:38:58,670 --> 01:39:06,270 to push on you know get all my friends it's really hard if you don't establish control 1675 01:39:06,909 --> 01:39:09,869 at the beginning of the meeting and keep up with it right 1676 01:39:13,380 --> 01:39:19,300 i read some of the moderators the laws and stuff and i do believe i read in there um that in the 1677 01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:24,020 beginning of the meeting the moderator i remember bill did this in the beginning when i first moved 1678 01:39:24,739 --> 01:39:29,699 because it stood out to me that bill would mention that you're not a registered voter of the town 1679 01:39:29,699 --> 01:39:35,779 and you're not allowed to vote on the floor i also remember seeing something in them rules that 1680 01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:41,140 they may not even be able to like don't quote me on this because i it might i might be wrong 1681 01:39:41,140 --> 01:39:48,210 i might have misread it but i don't think they're entitled to speak as well no you're correct 1682 01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:54,699 if they want to speak it's with permission and that was one of the things you know i brought up 1683 01:39:56,140 --> 01:40:03,710 in our meetings as an example you know we got like the town legislator the state legislators 1684 01:40:03,710 --> 01:40:09,600 who come in and i've always asked with your permission someone said our state representative 1685 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:24,079 would like to talk to you and if somebody objects they don't get the floor he sent them he um the 1686 01:40:24,079 --> 01:40:33,279 new representative sent the newsletter out there was a handout at the table i remember getting up 1687 01:40:34,979 --> 01:40:43,489 moderators handbook or something or something can be passed pass over there was a whole list 1688 01:40:43,489 --> 01:40:49,170 of terminology whoa boy that's a lot to learn i know paul said he has that handbook right because 1689 01:40:49,170 --> 01:40:56,289 he actually put on the facebook poll of whatever the moderator is he went to the get ready for town 1690 01:40:56,289 --> 01:41:05,539 meeting education stuff with whatever laurie late morning and i hope john paul understands 1691 01:41:05,779 --> 01:41:11,539 that he's kind of responsibility oh sure yeah there's a question or how many amendments you 1692 01:41:11,539 --> 01:41:18,699 can do it's a whole big it's all in the moderator's handbook yeah and a lot of terminology it's online 1693 01:41:18,699 --> 01:41:28,159 and you can ask for a printed copy of it sure okay any other one the day before any other 1694 01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:39,710 business you were old what's that i said um do we need to go into executive session for anything okay 1695 01:41:40,029 --> 01:41:47,170 um 1696 01:41:53,569 --> 01:41:55,170 these guys took that honor away 1697 01:41:56,930 --> 01:41:59,170 so thanks a lot 1698 01:42:01,569 --> 01:42:03,170 yeah regarding um 1699 01:42:03,170 --> 01:42:09,619 the conditions that found me in the group the statement that we made about the time making 1700 01:42:09,619 --> 01:42:11,300 money on the album wall sale 1701 01:42:12,020 --> 01:42:14,260 back in 2000 1702 01:42:19,619 --> 01:42:27,149 two or something like that we had 60 parcels that we put up for tax sale some of them were redeemed 1703 01:42:27,149 --> 01:42:35,810 before we went to tax sale um yes we did sell them but taxes were due for the past 20 years 1704 01:42:36,850 --> 01:42:43,090 so we the money we legally have to collect is back taxes penalty interest 1705 01:42:43,329 --> 01:42:50,770 costs of the sale now i was reading back in the land records it's got all the reporters sale 1706 01:42:51,329 --> 01:42:58,930 one property sold for forty dollars more sally had to set up separate accounts keep it for a year 1707 01:42:58,930 --> 01:43:07,010 send it back if we could not find the landowner it went to the state we can't have it 1708 01:43:07,010 --> 01:43:09,409 we could be over three thousand dollars 1709 01:43:09,409 --> 01:43:09,890 and one was over three thousand dollars all the way back to the tax table 1710 01:43:09,890 --> 01:43:10,689 but make the money if they can't do it 1711 01:43:10,689 --> 01:43:11,569 why would you not do it 1712 01:43:11,569 --> 01:43:12,350 because it's all in the original record 1713 01:43:12,350 --> 01:43:12,930 why would you not do it 1714 01:43:13,329 --> 01:43:16,970 60 something crowns, things like that, just, you know. 1715 01:43:16,970 --> 01:43:20,270 But we're not taking your money, we're not taking your profit. 1716 01:43:20,270 --> 01:43:25,069 We're not taking your money, we're not taking your profit.