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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Welcome to a meeting of the Stanford Select Room.

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If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on any agenda, you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address.

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You will notice that all our meetings are recorded, and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes.

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The visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per talk.

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Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others.

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Select Board members present are Nancy Bishica, Doug Wright, John Dunn.

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Will there be any adding of items or removing items from tonight's agenda?

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I have additional correspondence that's come in since the agenda.

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Will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order of items?

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And?

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And Jeb is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video.

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Before I forget, like I did last time, I just wanted to offer condolences to the Denault family, especially Teresa.

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I know she doesn't work for us anymore, but she was very close to us on the board for the recent passing of a family member.

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And second is to thank Lori for decorating the Christmas tree.

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And John.

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We thank you for donating it, and you and Mike for setting it up, and whoever helped there.

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Lori, you did a good job decorating it.

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It was a cute little one.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Hearing of visitors.

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I just wanted to touch base with you guys.

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I don't see anything on the actual agenda regarding the conflict of interest.

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So I just wanted to check in and see if you guys had a chance to contact the FSA.

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I don't know if you guys had a chance to contact the FSA, but I just wanted to check in and see if you guys had a chance to actually review the new ethics stuff that has come out that took effect on the first.

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I guess I'm just checking in to see kind of where we stand.

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You said you were going to look in to see if you had the ability to vote on that both positions couldn't hold if you were the assessor or if you were the delinquent tax collector.

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You couldn't hold the JP.

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If you're the JP, you couldn't hold the tax collector.

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Correct.

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Yes.

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Regarding the ethics, there's a lot to read on that.

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Oh, yeah.

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And I think Doug's been reading on it, too, and I've been reading.

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And there's a lot to go on.

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There's a whole list of what the towns have to put on.

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I don't know if you've got it yet, Lori, but it's a preparation checklist from municipalities, what has to go on our website.

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So we're working on that.

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Where we have to post the whistleblower protection.

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It's got to be here, garage, probably the recycling shed because nobody can get into the garage, the complaint form, and the code of ethics is probably five or six pages long, a lot of reading.

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So we are working on that.

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Now, as far as the justice of the peace and the collector delinquent tax, I did find out about that.

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According to state law, there is no.

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The same person can hold both of those jobs, according to state law.

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But it comes down to how the pay is, which we have discussed before.

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And I asked the LCT, can the town create a policy prohibiting the same person from holding both offices?

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If the job is elected, no, you cannot.

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Because that's the people that are electing them.

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If we appoint JP, which we don't appoint anyway.

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If we appoint the delinquent taxes, then we can say you can't hold them.

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Then we can create our own policy.

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I think everybody's aware that there's no state guideline that those positions can't kind of coexist.

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The question was, I guess, that Mike proposed was, can the town put in an ordinance that says that neither one of those positions can be held?

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Can both be held by the same person?

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No, we cannot.

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I just said it.

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We cannot because we're electing positions.

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If they were appointed, then the town could do something.

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But because they're elected, it's a state law.

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We can't do anything.

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Okay, so what are we going to do moving forward as far as the conflict of interest that's going to arise?

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I can smell it.

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It's never gone away.

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And it's not going to.

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I'd be shocked if it did.

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Well, what are we going to do when that arises?

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Because, you know, it's one thing for me as a new elected JLP to sit on the board and say, I need you to recuse yourself.

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But I'm not the Lord Jesus Christ himself.

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I can't make her recuse herself.

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I can bring it up and ask her to.

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But like we've done before and like people have done before in the past and ask them to recuse themselves, this individual, it was a blatant no.

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And so then it was kind of left where people just had to kind of proceed forward.

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It was kind of just like, oh, they're allowed to.

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That hasn't happened yet.

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It sure did.

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It happened between two people in town.

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When somebody came in for an appointment, they asked her to recuse herself and she blatantly said no, which is one wholeheartedly.

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If you look at multiple sections, I don't want to put names out there.

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Yeah.

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But there was an instance where a lawsuit happened between these two people.

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And.

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Just for that sake, they shouldn't have been mingling in that area.

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And then that person like never left.

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So I guess that's, I know it's in the past, but it still happened.

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But what are we going to do?

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It's like I'm beating a dead horse.

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Like, what are we going to do moving forward?

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Because this is not going to go away.

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You know, it's a conflict of interest.

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Okay.

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Well, first of all, I'm just starting to read this.

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They've got a little quiz online.

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I took that the other day.

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I'm still not an expert on it.

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But my understanding is far as them asking the person to leave the room.

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That's a public meeting.

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And if the person doesn't want to go, that's perfectly fine.

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That was a public meeting.

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All those hearings were public meetings.

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So she didn't have to go.

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My understanding is.

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How are they?

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I'm not to cut you off.

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But how are those public hearings?

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Because we had to schedule an appointment, but nobody else was in the room or nobody else knew.

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And when those were things, it wasn't like it was put out, like Peter Greenbush has an abatement hearing, come one, come all.

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No, that's more, that's more administrative.

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They are considered public meetings.

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And I think when we asked you to put in your name, let us know you're coming so we can prepare.

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It's more of an administrative thing than anything else.

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But those are public meetings.

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Do they have, so the grievance hearings, they have, they choose a day and the day is posted.

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And they have to be here from 10 to 2 or whatever the hours are that they post on their, their notice.

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They ask people to schedule them, but it's posted for anybody in town who wants to come.

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Because I was told by them that I had to actually schedule.

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Actually, when it came out, it was you have to schedule a meeting.

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So that kind of gets away from that.

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But I understand.

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It's only for the convenience of two years.

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So that's fine.

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So, so what, so.

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If she's sitting in that meeting and she has made statements and they were put on the assessment, and then she still didn't recuse herself from a vote or from any saying, is that, or is that not a conflict of interest?

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I think you're talking about two different meetings.

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I'm talking about both meetings that were held because she was in the abatement hearing that I sat on or that I had to sit for with the gentleman who did the assessment.

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Right.

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And she has no opinion.

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On that one.

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She had a pretty good one in mind.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So again, like I said, I don't get into who else had their meeting.

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I can only speak for what happened for me.

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And she had an opinion in that meeting.

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And then she had an opinion in my assessment.

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And then it went from that abatement hearing.

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It went to the next JLP, the Board of Civil Authority.

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And she was there for that.

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And then also went on my site visit and gave her opinion and also cast a vote for said thing.

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So again, conflict.

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Of interest.

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We know that we've established that it's been agreed upon that that is a conflict of interest.

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So moving forward, where do we go?

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Like, what do we do to finish to now?

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I guess the best thing they can say just here right now, my understanding is that, say, like, what we're talking about stays on the board as a JLP.

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And they can go to meetings.

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They can go to on-site, you know, to check out the properties like you did with yours.

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The only thing they can't do is vote because that's the final decision.

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You can't assume because she expresses an opinion.

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You know, she's not the dictator that says, okay, this is what I say.

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There's other people involved with it.

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I'm aware.

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So it's a perceived, um, it's a, it's a perceived opinion.

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So would she?

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Like we talked about in the last meeting, she has been here for a significant amount of time.

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People in town respect her.

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I'd like to believe.

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Am I correct?

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So when she says something, they listen to it.

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Am I right?

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No, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I mean, okay.

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Either way, let's get away from that.

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How about she voted on it?

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Because you just said that she, she should cast a vote.

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She can go to the site.

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She can, you know, have an opinion, but she voted on it.

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Right.

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From now on.

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We are aware of this.

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Yeah.

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We're going to.

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But she was aware of that.

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She knew.

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How did she?

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How do you not know?

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I'm not gonna argue.

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How do you not know?

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I mean, it's, it's.

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The ethics just started.

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Just quoted ethics.

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You've always had ethics.

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You guys all have to do the ethics.

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Everybody that's appointed has to look at ethics.

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Like ethics is, you're, you're, uh, uh, voted in person.

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Like, you're not just, um, voted in by the board and said, hey, you're appointed by the board.

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Like everybody goes through ethics in any kind of way.

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Ethics in any kind of position, like lawyers go through ethics stuff.

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I went through ethics stuff for my business, for the state.

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Everybody goes, this is it.

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Ethics isn't new.

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Okay.

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So if there's a perceived conflict of interest where, where you know that you can benefit

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from a decision that you make, that's a conflict of interest.

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Period.

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And how do you not know that?

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Then you're, you're, if you're saying she didn't know that you're almost insinuating

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that she's not very smart.

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And I'd like to believe she's a very intelligent woman.

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Okay.

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I think we can all agree that she's an intelligent woman.

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Okay.

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So, I mean, I'm glad that moving forward, but now we're going to have to recuse ourselves

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from, I mean, I guess, so what, I guess what the ultimate thing is, is we're not going

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anywhere.

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Any, what was that?

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So ultimately what it's come down to is that we're not doing anything.

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As a town, as a select board, you're not going to do anything.

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It's kind of like you're done.

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We're done talking about this.

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No, no.

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We have not said that.

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What we are going to do, like we said, this new ethics policy, the state and municipal

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just became active yesterday, the first of the month.

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We are going to go through it.

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We get to have a town version of an ethics policy.

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We're going to go through all those things.

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So we are going to do it.

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But what has happened in the past, you know what I'm saying?

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The vote.

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Okay.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what's going on.

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I don't know what the people are saying.

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I don't know what you're saying.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know what you guys are saying.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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But we will move forward and do our best to get a ethics policy up and to go by it.

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And if there's a question, what happens, I don't know if you seem to have read a lot.

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So you probably know it.

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But if there's a complaint, the ethics board doesn't, doesn't investigate it themselves.

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What will happen in the next couple of days is that the board of directors will have

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to go through the process.

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That is what we are going to do.

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So what happens is that we're going to get to a decision.

242
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What happens? I don't know if you seem to have read a lot, so you probably know it, but if there's a complaint, the Ethics Board doesn't investigate it themselves.

243
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What will happen, you could write to the Ethics Board, and this is my understanding, you write to the Ethics Board, and then they would let us know and we investigate it.

244
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So I've contacted the Secretary of State, so ultimately I have to file my complaint with the Secretary of State?

245
00:13:50,899 --> 00:13:54,620
That's my understanding, reach through the policy, not with the Secretary of State.

246
00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:57,539
Well, I filed my complaint with the Secretary of State.

247
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You can go to the Ethics Board, the Chairman of the Ethics Board.

248
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But I have to file my complaint with the Secretary of State.

249
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Well, that could be because the Ethics Board was just coming up.

250
00:14:13,340 --> 00:14:15,740
Yeah, so I mean, I've spoken to people.

251
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We're talking procedure here. That's my understanding. I'm going to read, trust me, I'm going to read through it.

252
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But I'm going to read through it.

253
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Which is fine. I wholeheartedly believe that you guys as a board are going to, you know, hold the ethics laws that have just come out to a high standard.

254
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I have no doubt about that.

255
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What would make you doubt that we would?

256
00:14:35,820 --> 00:14:40,200
Nothing. I just said I believe that you guys are going to do that.

257
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I have no concerns there.

258
00:14:42,179 --> 00:14:47,159
But you guys aren't sitting in in all the meetings that she's sitting in.

259
00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,059
Okay, so again, we have a position.

260
00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:51,120
We have two.

261
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We have kind of three positions that are kind of like on the questioning block, because we have the delinquent tax collector doing the person that is the assistant assessor, plus then we have the person that's on the Board of Civil Authority.

262
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So you've got three kind of like, you know, so whatever.

263
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Nevertheless, I guess it's just going to come down to, you know, people policing ourselves and that specific board and then filing complaints when things don't happen.

264
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I just hate to see this turn into like something really big that it doesn't have to.

265
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Because I don't want it to be anything super big.

266
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I know it sounds kind of like I do, but I kind of just want some resolution and kind of just move forward.

267
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But we don't people don't want to give up their positions.

268
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And so I, you know, it's just going to be made known.

269
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And we already look really bad from the first freaking thing that just came out.

270
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So I can see it get even worse.

271
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So thank you for your time.

272
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Any other visitors?

273
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Reading and approval of records and orders from December 19th.

274
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We have a motion to accept when it's written.

275
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We accept.

276
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All in favor?

277
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All in favor.

278
00:16:23,259 --> 00:16:24,259
Aye.

279
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We wanted to say something about December 12th.

280
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We had an agenda for December 12th.

281
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We were going to do a budget work session, but unfortunately, we didn't have a quorum.

282
00:16:37,529 --> 00:16:42,970
So there was no meeting just to finish that one up.

283
00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:43,970
Right, Lori?

284
00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:46,220
Yes.

285
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Road conditions.

286
00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:52,720
Well, we know they're where our crew is tonight.

287
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I don't have any word from them at all.

288
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No.

289
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No.

290
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You have signed the highway ordinance.

291
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You guys approved it at the last meeting.

292
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For publication as soon as you get it.

293
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Conditions.

294
00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:04,890
There was a notice you sent us about the better back road grant.

295
00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:05,890
Was that the Easter egg grant?

296
00:17:05,890 --> 00:17:06,890
Yeah.

297
00:17:06,890 --> 00:17:24,720
Yeah.

298
00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,720
Yeah.

299
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,720
Yeah.

300
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:49,029
Yeah.

301
00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:50,029
Yeah.

302
00:17:50,029 --> 00:17:52,180
Yeah.

303
00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:59,519
Yeah.

304
00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:00,519
Yeah.

305
00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:01,519
Yeah.

306
00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:02,519
Yeah.

307
00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:03,519
Yeah.

308
00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:04,519
Yeah.

309
00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:05,519
Yeah.

310
00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:06,779
Yeah.

311
00:18:06,779 --> 00:18:07,779
Yeah.

312
00:18:07,779 --> 00:18:08,900
Yeah.

313
00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:09,900
Yeah.

314
00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:10,900
Yeah.

315
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Yeah.

316
00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:13,289
Is that, 32,000 in the state pays 80%?

317
00:18:13,289 --> 00:18:14,289
32,000 in the state pays 80%, 3,200.

318
00:18:14,289 --> 00:18:15,289
Or is that, the travel hacerlo?

319
00:18:15,289 --> 00:18:16,420
The road kanske?

320
00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:17,420
Yeah.

321
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That I'll print it off.

322
00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:19,420
That I'm sorry for the black dots.

323
00:18:19,420 --> 00:18:20,420
I think we turned it off, but I'll have to print it off.

324
00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:26,599
I have words here for the road erosion grant, but it's much smaller.

325
00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:27,599
It's at 3,200?

326
00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,299
Yeah.

327
00:18:29,299 --> 00:18:30,299
No, maybe that's it.

328
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Then we added some extra zeros.

329
00:18:31,299 --> 00:18:32,299
Excellent.

330
00:18:32,299 --> 00:18:35,299
And how do you think we have a future as a government in Georgia?

331
00:18:35,299 --> 00:18:36,299
roles based upon.

332
00:18:36,299 --> 00:18:37,299
Yeah.

333
00:18:37,299 --> 00:18:38,299
Yeah.

334
00:18:38,299 --> 00:18:41,349
Exactly.

335
00:18:41,349 --> 00:18:53,900
It's 3,232, 20% state match, which is, or town match, which is 808.

336
00:18:54,460 --> 00:19:06,039
This is for VCRC to assess state and going through the inventory of our roads and erosion and culverts.

337
00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:13,220
This is kind of the same time that we're going to have.

338
00:19:13,339 --> 00:19:15,319
Because I know we already have the one for East Road.

339
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,119
Right.

340
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:32,390
Thank you.

341
00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:38,549
Anything else anybody have on the highway?

342
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,779
No, this is Sportsman Club Road.

343
00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:48,460
That was a little slushy, right, you said?

344
00:19:49,299 --> 00:19:49,599
Yeah.

345
00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:54,319
And he put some stone in to try to resolve the issue.

346
00:19:54,980 --> 00:20:00,349
He did say it didn't break up like spring break up, but it was getting a little...

347
00:20:00,349 --> 00:20:01,309
I was up there today.

348
00:20:01,309 --> 00:20:03,900
It's all right.

349
00:20:04,059 --> 00:20:04,660
Yeah, it could be.

350
00:20:04,779 --> 00:20:06,599
This needs to freeze back up again.

351
00:20:07,279 --> 00:20:11,559
Well, it's pretty tough back past Suzanne Drive if you keep going past my road.

352
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,039
Yeah, the turnaround is.

353
00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:14,619
Yeah, that little section is pretty tough.

354
00:20:14,619 --> 00:20:15,380
That's kind of...

355
00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:19,000
There's only really one house, and someone's going to be filling up there, too.

356
00:20:22,140 --> 00:20:23,440
Anything on recycling?

357
00:20:30,299 --> 00:20:30,779
Discussion.

358
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,039
Appointment of ethics liaison officer.

359
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,779
Now, Mike wanted to wait until we had a full board here.

360
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,940
Yeah, and we don't.

361
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,079
And we don't again.

362
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,140
Yeah, let's hope that we don't.

363
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,480
Oh, well, yeah.

364
00:20:44,859 --> 00:20:46,410
Go on around.

365
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,400
He's going to be today, so he won't be coming today.

366
00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:50,039
Okay.

367
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,000
Can we wait?

368
00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:55,779
We've got until the end of the month.

369
00:20:57,549 --> 00:20:59,589
As long as we keep reading, Doug.

370
00:21:00,289 --> 00:21:00,670
Uh-oh.

371
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:04,509
I've got a feeling something's going to happen.

372
00:21:05,369 --> 00:21:05,809
I think.

373
00:21:06,130 --> 00:21:08,859
Well, we'll wait.

374
00:21:08,859 --> 00:21:09,660
And we'll keep reading.

375
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,920
Full board.

376
00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:12,069
Okay.

377
00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:15,650
Correspondence, Lori.

378
00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:15,769
Okay.

379
00:21:17,970 --> 00:21:21,059
I received an email request.

380
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:26,779
For someone looking for an assessor-clerk job description.

381
00:21:27,819 --> 00:21:30,819
Which I know we talked about preparing.

382
00:21:30,819 --> 00:21:35,599
And I don't know if one has ever been formally prepared.

383
00:21:37,450 --> 00:21:38,450
I don't believe we did that.

384
00:21:38,450 --> 00:21:44,259
I think that happened probably around the October, November,

385
00:21:45,099 --> 00:21:46,759
when we had election and all that stuff.

386
00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:56,319
I know that we talked about it because we had the reappointment.

387
00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:57,319
We had the re-appraisal.

388
00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:06,470
There was a whole lot of work, and we thought maybe that Sally might need some help there.

389
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:13,119
But things have settled down a lot, and now especially with the state probably taking

390
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:19,430
over reappraisals every so many years, I'd like to hold off and wait on this.

391
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:25,490
But if you don't want to make a decision, we can wait until Kurt and Mike get here.

392
00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:29,210
How often is it?

393
00:22:29,210 --> 00:22:30,910
Every three years they want to do it, right?

394
00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:31,980
Three to four or six.

395
00:22:31,980 --> 00:22:32,779
Three to four.

396
00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:33,819
I heard four.

397
00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:34,819
I also heard six.

398
00:22:34,819 --> 00:22:40,039
But if the state makes us do this every four years, I'd like to wait and see what the

399
00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:44,529
rest are going to do.

400
00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:45,529
That makes sense.

401
00:22:45,529 --> 00:22:46,529
Yeah.

402
00:22:46,529 --> 00:22:47,529
All right.

403
00:22:47,529 --> 00:22:49,809
Let's hold off on that.

404
00:22:49,809 --> 00:22:50,809
Anything else under correspondence?

405
00:22:50,809 --> 00:22:51,809
Not that comes to mind.

406
00:22:51,809 --> 00:22:54,500
Were you going to read something?

407
00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:55,500
Or you're good with your game?

408
00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:56,500
Oh, what?

409
00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:04,640
The slide with the numeral?

410
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,640
Yeah.

411
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:12,720
I'll read it then.

412
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,720
I'm going to read it.

413
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,720
You want to?

414
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,910
Or just read it?

415
00:23:15,910 --> 00:23:16,910
Yeah.

416
00:23:16,910 --> 00:23:17,910
I'm going to read it.

417
00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:18,910
I'm going to read it.

418
00:23:18,910 --> 00:23:19,910
I'm going to read it.

419
00:23:19,910 --> 00:23:20,910
I'm going to read it.

420
00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:22,779
I'm going to read it.

421
00:23:22,779 --> 00:23:23,779
Okay.

422
00:23:23,779 --> 00:23:24,779
So, can you just give the highlight points on it?

423
00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:25,779
Correspondence from John Tiffany, the assessor?

424
00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:26,779
Let's see here.

425
00:23:26,779 --> 00:23:27,779
Do you guys read it enough?

426
00:23:27,779 --> 00:23:28,779
Okay.

427
00:23:28,779 --> 00:23:29,779
So, this is from John Tiffany, the NIMRC assessor, 1220.

428
00:23:29,779 --> 00:23:30,779
He states that during his free time, he likes to look at select board hearing minutes in

429
00:23:30,779 --> 00:23:36,509
the towns that he works in.

430
00:23:36,509 --> 00:23:40,869
And he came across 1121, and he said, I don't know, I don't know what that means.

431
00:23:40,869 --> 00:23:41,869
He says, I don't know.

432
00:23:41,869 --> 00:23:42,869
I don't know.

433
00:23:42,869 --> 00:23:43,869
I don't know.

434
00:23:43,869 --> 00:23:44,869
I don't know.

435
00:23:44,869 --> 00:23:45,869
I don't know.

436
00:23:45,869 --> 00:23:46,869
I don't know.

437
00:23:46,869 --> 00:23:47,869
I don't know.

438
00:23:47,869 --> 00:23:48,869
I don't know.

439
00:23:48,869 --> 00:23:50,859
I don't know.

440
00:23:50,859 --> 00:23:51,859
I don't know.

441
00:23:51,859 --> 00:23:52,859
I don't know.

442
00:23:52,859 --> 00:23:53,859
I don't know.

443
00:23:53,859 --> 00:23:54,859
I don't know.

444
00:23:54,859 --> 00:24:01,619
So, for us, select board hearing minutes in the towns that he works in, and he came

445
00:24:01,619 --> 00:24:11,609
across 1121, regarding conflict of interest situation.

446
00:24:11,609 --> 00:24:22,710
He states that he does not get influenced by any Lister or accessory clerk in town that

447
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:23,710
he works in.

448
00:24:23,710 --> 00:24:28,569
He listens to what concerns they have on properties, but the assessment is based on the physical

449
00:24:28,569 --> 00:24:29,569
features of the property.

450
00:24:29,569 --> 00:24:37,900
including dwelling and outdoor the assessment is based on most recent reappraisal based on fair

451
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:48,000
market value as required by the state of vermont he also states that the town's most recent assets

452
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:54,640
values from reappraisal were reviewed by several of nimrick's appraisers including a senior appraiser

453
00:24:55,700 --> 00:25:01,599
who has over 40 years experience whom the state of vermont consults with quite regularly

454
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:10,940
the reappraisal was tested by the state of vermont it passed their three-prong test if the data failed

455
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:16,299
any one of these three prongs it would cause nimrick to review and correct the needed data to

456
00:25:16,299 --> 00:25:25,660
pass the test there are several towns that he works in as well as towns in which other nimrick

457
00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:34,670
assessors work in in which the assessor clerk also holds several other town offices two of the towns

458
00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:43,309
i work in the assessor clerk is also the tax collector in other towns that includes being a

459
00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:50,589
town clerk another assistant town clerk and the state above none of these positions influence

460
00:25:50,589 --> 00:26:01,099
nimbr's assessor assessment decisions merry christmas and happy new year john tiffany

461
00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:19,920
anything else lori old business new business uh do we need to go into executive session

462
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:30,799
regarding the pending or probable civil litigation and i'd like to start our budget work session

463
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:52,930
we could start working on that right yep you restart i put uh the most recent budget papers

464
00:26:52,930 --> 00:27:00,700
in your box if you all have them you just want to start with the income and go right down yep

465
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:08,740
you want to do receipts first the receipts first um the natural forest pill has come through

466
00:27:09,779 --> 00:27:17,789
until it goes to checkbook for december it won't show it's like 33 000 so probably if you keep the

467
00:27:17,789 --> 00:27:27,980
same budget that would be 35 yeah that is the people that have their property in the current use

468
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:39,309
the state pays a portion of their taxes but you have to have a forest plan and abide by what the

469
00:27:39,309 --> 00:27:45,779
forester says state-owned property uh we budgeted 200 they gave us

470
00:27:45,859 --> 00:27:54,859
306. we never know what the state's going to pay us that's for the little garage xc right

471
00:27:55,789 --> 00:28:11,519
yes 23 we budgeted uh 150 they gave us 257 last year we budgeted 200 this and they gave us 306.

472
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:30,660
you want to bump it up to 250 or keep it 200 keep it 200. okay uh sale of town-owned property

473
00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:42,460
done tax sale um those are two lots if somebody went on you never know if anyone's gonna come

474
00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:52,289
forward so we'll keep it zero and yeah i would keep that you know i was wrong on the

475
00:28:52,289 --> 00:28:57,089
national board the national boards all of the state land that we have here

476
00:29:05,089 --> 00:29:07,089
for this use value is the one that

477
00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:15,410
on if you have your real estate and current use program but the state land and the state pays is

478
00:29:15,410 --> 00:29:32,000
whatever it is so that probably changed because of the assessment as far as i know i don't think

479
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:38,880
they go by our assessment do they do we have to pay a little taxes yeah i don't know if they

480
00:29:40,339 --> 00:29:45,940
do that when like national forest logs all over the country and then divides it all off and we

481
00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:53,980
just get a portion of whatever their income is whether they log in our time or not yeah so it's

482
00:29:53,980 --> 00:30:05,680
kind of random and you know they don't mean like they don't know how big they're in the town and

483
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:13,759
they pay us what they want okay so that's use use value value use value is the one where if you have

484
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:20,559
your property in the forest management plan and that's when the state pays part of your taxes

485
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:31,779
so use value last year we did we budgeted 10 000 they gave us 12.

486
00:30:32,660 --> 00:30:40,450
last year we budgeted 8 000 and they gave us 13. we probably could go up so we want to go like nine

487
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:50,589
nine or ten yeah oh ten ten ten that's why there's a lot of withdrawals from current use

488
00:30:51,950 --> 00:31:05,140
municipal payment so i feel like i heard the auditor said we needed to begin including a

489
00:31:05,299 --> 00:31:11,859
education billing fee that's retained yes and we created a line item yes i'm wondering if

490
00:31:11,859 --> 00:31:21,140
it isn't that 43 000 that's that's the little bit that the state gives us for sending out their

491
00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:26,980
school property bills yeah i'm wondering if he's not making the connection that that's what that is

492
00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:36,369
and feeling like we should be budgeting for it we've never budgeted for it no and we said thank

493
00:31:36,369 --> 00:31:38,049
you very much because it's 43000.

494
00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:42,940
$43,000 that we didn't know we were going to receive.

495
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,299
So should we budget something there?

496
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,920
What's the education billing fee?

497
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,200
I think that's what they suggested.

498
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,589
They suggested we bill, and he created this line item for us,

499
00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:07,829
but I wonder if he didn't realize that the $43,000 is what he's talking about.

500
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:09,890
It's just we've never budgeted it.

501
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,640
Unless there's two different things, and I don't know.

502
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:21,759
I mean, I could clarify it this year, but it won't help for budgeting purposes at all

503
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:28,130
because they always figured it when they did their fund balance

504
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:29,869
because they took all the income.

505
00:32:30,269 --> 00:32:31,690
We just never showed it here.

506
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:38,599
If we show something here, that would be less that we have to raise in taxes.

507
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,519
Right.

508
00:32:40,509 --> 00:32:44,430
So instead of it showing up on the fund balance side, it'll be on this side.

509
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:45,509
Yeah.

510
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:49,390
Can we do, like, Wendy?

511
00:32:49,589 --> 00:32:54,160
Can we go back and see how much we got other years?

512
00:32:55,019 --> 00:32:55,220
Yeah.

513
00:32:55,539 --> 00:32:56,779
Is that easy to pull, Laurie?

514
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,000
No, let me just get a couple of time reports.

515
00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:01,390
It's not in there.

516
00:33:01,930 --> 00:33:04,460
What is in there?

517
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,539
Because Laurie sends out the bills for taxes,

518
00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:13,049
and it's a part on there where the state gives us money for that.

519
00:33:13,369 --> 00:33:14,490
Oh, because she sends it.

520
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:16,210
Yeah, and does the paperwork.

521
00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:24,319
And if we don't bill anything, that $43,000 is for the good,

522
00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:25,839
just in case we don't.

523
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:36,589
We'll need our $43,000.

524
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:38,490
I'm going to put a question in there.

525
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:42,329
This is not my strongest suit, so that's why I'm asking a lot of questions here.

526
00:33:42,569 --> 00:33:49,200
She looks other years and see what we get.

527
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:51,849
We can go back down.

528
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:55,210
And sale interest.

529
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:58,200
Sale interest.

530
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:10,539
Laurie's got a fund that people gave us money when they sold their land to National Forest.

531
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,260
This was many years ago.

532
00:34:13,340 --> 00:34:14,900
We asked them to give us money.

533
00:34:15,099 --> 00:34:20,070
We knew we were going to lose the taxes, because we knew we were going to lose the taxes.

534
00:34:20,150 --> 00:34:20,650
So they did.

535
00:34:20,730 --> 00:34:26,460
We invested it into, we invested funds.

536
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:34,000
We have, right now we have $161,000.

537
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:38,380
Well, no, we've got about $20,000 more in there, so $181,000.

538
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:40,920
And we have been borrowing from that.

539
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,719
We borrowed from that fund to pay one of the trucks, one of our sales.

540
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,420
Weren't we talking about using that?

541
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:47,940
Yeah.

542
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:49,340
Potentially for the fire truck.

543
00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:49,920
Mm-hmm.

544
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,500
Yeah.

545
00:34:50,579 --> 00:34:57,840
So that's what that interest is, and she takes it off as much as she can each year.

546
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,920
But these are in CDs where they work.

547
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000
So instead of breaking the CD, whatever they came due, she took some off.

548
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:08,840
So let's say, back to the municipal payment, okay.

549
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,260
Did we lose all our game, or what happened?

550
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:14,880
I guess budgeting was boring.

551
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,099
Budgeting is boring.

552
00:35:16,179 --> 00:35:18,019
So, and.

553
00:35:19,699 --> 00:35:22,179
Well, last year, you have the number.

554
00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:27,139
In 2022, it was $25,800.

555
00:35:27,219 --> 00:35:32,599
2021, it was $36,000.

556
00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:37,670
2020, it was $35,000.

557
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:47,269
Oh, that's, so it varies.

558
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:56,619
I mean, if we got $25,000 in just a year before last, I don't know if you want to go higher than that, and then be sure.

559
00:35:56,699 --> 00:35:58,940
Yeah.

560
00:35:59,019 --> 00:35:59,880
Well, let's.

561
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:05,730
We put $20,000 in there, question 20.

562
00:36:05,809 --> 00:36:06,949
That's municipal.

563
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:09,110
What is it if you average them together?

564
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:17,139
$33,000.

565
00:36:17,219 --> 00:36:21,539
$35,000.

566
00:36:25,010 --> 00:36:26,050
$430,000.

567
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:28,150
Yep, yep.

568
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:31,460
$207,000, that's a lot.

569
00:36:31,539 --> 00:36:33,179
That's the total.

570
00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:36,179
$107,000 might be the total, divide by four.

571
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:39,340
Divide, yeah, $107,000.

572
00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:41,510
$26,000.

573
00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:44,780
Just put $20,000 in.

574
00:36:44,860 --> 00:37:00,599
Keep it $20,000, at least something's in there.

575
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:07,880
That's like $27,000 a year on average.

576
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:14,030
Yeah, so sounds like a good number to be saved, right?

577
00:37:14,110 --> 00:37:14,949
Yeah.

578
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:17,110
All right, $20,000 in it.

579
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:22,110
But now, the next line down, education billing fee retained.

580
00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:23,230
Is that what you're saying?

581
00:37:23,309 --> 00:37:24,570
Maybe he meant those two.

582
00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:25,650
Well, that's what I'm saying.

583
00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:31,409
He wants us to budget for that, and he added a new line item in our budget for it.

584
00:37:31,489 --> 00:37:38,059
But I think when he, unless there's another fee I don't know about, I think it,

585
00:37:38,059 --> 00:37:40,019
we only need one line.

586
00:37:40,099 --> 00:37:42,230
I think you're right.

587
00:37:42,309 --> 00:37:48,449
I think it's because we've never budgeted for that $43,000.

588
00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:51,409
And you've always put it in municipal payment.

589
00:37:51,489 --> 00:37:55,130
Right, as opposed to education billing fee.

590
00:37:55,210 --> 00:37:58,920
Let's keep it one line, whatever one you choose.

591
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,380
I mean, if they want to call it the education billing fee that we retained,

592
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:07,000
and I'll just, going forward, move the number into there.

593
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,119
However you feel, I already saved.

594
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,360
But it's there somewhere.

595
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,960
So what are we doing into that line?

596
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:16,199
Into which one, though?

597
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:20,039
Okay, well, no, I just heard you say education billing fee retained, so.

598
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:21,920
We think these two are the same.

599
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:30,239
Okay.

600
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,199
Right, that's what the auditor thought to call it.

601
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,579
We'll just take today.

602
00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:34,239
Mm-hmm.

603
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,329
Okay.

604
00:38:35,409 --> 00:38:43,820
And keep $20,000 in the line item that's municipal payment, wherever you have it, okay?

605
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:45,170
Yeah.

606
00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:48,309
So we'll take out that one.

607
00:38:48,389 --> 00:38:49,889
Well, that one won't show up in the town.

608
00:38:49,889 --> 00:38:51,969
We'll call it the county court education billing fee.

609
00:38:52,050 --> 00:38:52,849
Right.

610
00:38:52,929 --> 00:38:56,820
A lot of these are on Lori's chart of accounts.

611
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,980
There's lots of them.

612
00:38:59,059 --> 00:39:03,039
Whether she uses them or not, you just can't get rid of some of them.

613
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,639
Right.

614
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:13,699
Land sale fund interest, we budgeted $725, and we took in $1,487.

615
00:39:13,780 --> 00:39:21,920
We should probably do more, because we're going to have a full $187,000 in there this year.

616
00:39:22,019 --> 00:39:22,599
Right.

617
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:29,329
I mean, I don't know what the projected is for interest rates, if they're going to continue to go up or not.

618
00:39:29,409 --> 00:39:32,349
Any idea, interest rates going up?

619
00:39:32,429 --> 00:39:37,820
I thought that's what he thinks they're going to bring down, is the interest rate.

620
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:41,659
Right, you know, you hear that from politicians, if you're going to try to know.

621
00:39:41,739 --> 00:39:42,699
Yeah.

622
00:39:43,010 --> 00:39:47,320
But Trump says he's going to, that's what he thinks he's working for, so.

623
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,400
And actually, we just got like a CD that we're dealing with.

624
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,380
You know, how that really happened.

625
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:59,800
He signed it up, and we were told that it is a lower rate than last year.

626
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,260
I don't know.

627
00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:05,960
Well, maybe we want to go up, but not a tot up.

628
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:07,539
Let's go $1,000 now.

629
00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:13,019
Would $1,000 be, okay, some reasonable?

630
00:40:13,099 --> 00:40:21,349
Money market interest, let's keep it, let's keep it, was there a hundred?

631
00:40:21,429 --> 00:40:26,070
We budgeted, okay, we budgeted $125, and we took in $94.

632
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:29,920
We're going to budget $100.

633
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,539
And checking interest, we budgeted $100.

634
00:40:33,619 --> 00:40:46,260
We took in $71, so we go down to $70, we go to $75.

635
00:40:46,340 --> 00:40:57,239
I like either $70 or $75, I don't care.

636
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,860
Permits and fees, local fine.

637
00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:06,599
This is when the, oh, when the sheriff used to.

638
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,179
See, we didn't budget anything because we didn't have a sheriff, but I think, you know,

639
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:18,800
the first couple of months, they still, until town meeting when they were voted down.

640
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:29,309
So you still have, like, January, February, maybe a little in March, but probably going forward,

641
00:41:29,389 --> 00:41:36,760
if they stopped and got a ticket on a town road, they'd turn over a portion of that to us.

642
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,559
But without us having a sheriff on their contract, I don't think we'll get any more.

643
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:44,139
We better do zero.

644
00:41:44,219 --> 00:41:47,280
This is state police.

645
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,650
That's what they write it under.

646
00:41:49,730 --> 00:41:52,150
Well, it depends what they write it under.

647
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:58,329
The last person talking a long time ago now, but it depends what ordinance they write it under.

648
00:41:58,409 --> 00:42:04,329
If they write it under a town ordinance, that's my understanding the town gets some of the road.

649
00:42:04,409 --> 00:42:09,500
But if it's written under a state ordinance, the state police, well, the state gets everything.

650
00:42:09,579 --> 00:42:15,840
So if they pull you over on the state highway, the state gets the money, but if they pull you over on each road?

651
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,760
Well, but see, while they still could ticket you,

652
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:27,559
say, like, the speed limit is somebody goes through town 55 miles an hour, the state speed limit is 50.

653
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:32,440
So they still could write you under, like, the basic rule type thing.

654
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,710
It depends what they want to do, but, you know, the state police are probably going to go, you know.

655
00:42:37,789 --> 00:42:40,730
What I just gave is kind of an extreme example, but.

656
00:42:40,809 --> 00:42:44,690
So there might be some amount of money that we would still receive.

657
00:42:44,769 --> 00:42:47,969
Yeah, if they wanted to write you, say, like, a stop sign or something like that.

658
00:42:47,969 --> 00:42:49,969
If you go through town.

659
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:54,199
But I think there's a state version of that, too, so.

660
00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:03,110
I think just keep it zero and beer and wine license.

661
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:07,159
So I would stick with the 185.

662
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:13,679
We have extra income in there because when Bill Mott's changed hands,

663
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,320
the new people had to get their license, so.

664
00:43:18,579 --> 00:43:20,699
Going forward, it'll just be the renewals.

665
00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:24,659
When they had, like, the wedding or something, too, off-site,

666
00:43:24,739 --> 00:43:25,619
did they have to apply?

667
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,960
Did they have to apply for a license at that time, too, or no?

668
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:35,960
The people who were hosting the wedding had to apply.

669
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:41,519
And then the, she gave a lot of basic people who she paid and got our approval.

670
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:46,179
But it didn't have to do with, this is for Bill Mott, who sells liquor,

671
00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:49,900
and the golf course who sells the beer.

672
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:53,199
Right.

673
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,000
I don't think we got any money out of it.

674
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:57,000
We just had to do approval.

675
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:58,179
Right.

676
00:43:58,260 --> 00:43:59,920
That's what I was asking.

677
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,920
Driveway permits.

678
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,920
We budgeted 100 and we took in 120, so we must have six new driveways.

679
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,420
We must have six new driveways.

680
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:12,619
It's amazing.

681
00:44:12,699 --> 00:44:14,119
I think we're going to get six more.

682
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:19,750
Are we going to have a lot of driveways going in this year, or keep it 100?

683
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:22,239
Drop it down.

684
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,679
Keep it 100, okay.

685
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,929
Fish and game license.

686
00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:33,340
We budgeted 200 and Lori took in 214 for her fee.

687
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:40,010
That's because every time you sell a license, we get like two bucks or something.

688
00:44:40,090 --> 00:44:43,579
You get $1.50 per tab.

689
00:44:43,659 --> 00:44:47,880
And the state, when it's $101, the state gets all the rest.

690
00:44:48,989 --> 00:44:52,380
What?

691
00:44:52,460 --> 00:44:56,340
When I sell a hunting license, I get $101.

692
00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:57,380
Oh, yeah.

693
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,440
We get $1.50 and the state gets all the rest.

694
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:03,579
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

695
00:45:03,659 --> 00:45:05,280
But there's an adding problem.

696
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,480
The computer can't add that.

697
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:08,360
200.

698
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,360
Let's do it.

699
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,239
I'll shoot the 200.

700
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,239
Yeah.

701
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,800
Yep.

702
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,869
Oh, yeah.

703
00:45:15,949 --> 00:45:16,869
Computer.

704
00:45:16,949 --> 00:45:18,869
Because the computer can't add it.

705
00:45:18,949 --> 00:45:19,869
Yeah.

706
00:45:19,949 --> 00:45:20,869
I don't know about that.

707
00:45:20,949 --> 00:45:23,900
Wildlife reports.

708
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:28,900
We budgeted that Lori's going to be checking 30 here and there, and she checked in 39.

709
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:29,900
Would you get one?

710
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:32,900
Well, we've got paid for 39 so far.

711
00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:36,900
I've received turkey, archery.

712
00:45:36,980 --> 00:45:42,019
I've not received the hunting yet, so that's going to carry on into next year, which is

713
00:45:42,099 --> 00:45:44,019
probably how it is every year.

714
00:45:44,099 --> 00:45:49,019
But, yeah, the town gets $1 every time I check in a year.

715
00:45:49,099 --> 00:45:52,449
Keep it 30?

716
00:45:52,530 --> 00:45:55,599
Yeah.

717
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:57,599
What's the hunting predictions, Doug?

718
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:58,599
None.

719
00:45:58,679 --> 00:45:59,599
What's the hunting predictions?

720
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,760
I need to get out and put out the turkey.

721
00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:04,820
Deed recordings.

722
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:09,199
Oh, we misjudged that one, didn't we?

723
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,199
I guess the boom of deed recordings is slowing down.

724
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,280
For a while, everybody was just refinancing.

725
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,199
Rates were low.

726
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:19,199
Rates were low, and then the moves.

727
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,199
How much, what date are you up to on recording?

728
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,389
She's, I think, the very end of September now.

729
00:46:27,469 --> 00:46:32,639
So, in a week and a half's time, we've moved like eight weeks.

730
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,639
And this is right up to date?

731
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,639
This is right up to, yeah.

732
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,639
All right, so.

733
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,639
Do you want to, like, cut it out in half, or?

734
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,119
I don't know if I'd go half.

735
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:48,880
Maybe 8,000, nine?

736
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,960
Eight or seven?

737
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:53,420
You're only cooking seven.

738
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:54,420
Seventy-five.

739
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:55,420
Seventy-five, yeah.

740
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:56,519
Seventy-five, okay.

741
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:58,519
Did you have a couple more months?

742
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:02,800
Well, not going on this, but we could have figured, yeah.

743
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,079
All right.

744
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:09,079
You lost a lot of time with elections and all that crap there that we had to go through.

745
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:11,340
Which we won't have next year, yeah.

746
00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:14,460
Marriage license.

747
00:47:14,539 --> 00:47:19,940
We budgeted $50, $45, we already got.

748
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:24,130
And how many people are going to get marriage license this year?

749
00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:25,130
Yeah.

750
00:47:25,210 --> 00:47:26,289
Zero.

751
00:47:26,369 --> 00:47:32,030
Save zero in the locker and two in the other one?

752
00:47:32,110 --> 00:47:33,030
Yeah.

753
00:47:33,110 --> 00:47:34,030
Fifty?

754
00:47:34,110 --> 00:47:35,030
Fifty.

755
00:47:35,110 --> 00:47:36,030
Okay.

756
00:47:38,539 --> 00:47:40,460
And these are all subject to change.

757
00:47:40,539 --> 00:47:45,460
When we review them again, or Flores finds something, or we look them over and say, gee,

758
00:47:45,539 --> 00:47:47,460
maybe we should have done something different.

759
00:47:47,539 --> 00:47:48,460
Yeah.

760
00:47:48,539 --> 00:47:53,460
I'll give you guys an updated version that you can review for the next meeting and decide

761
00:47:53,539 --> 00:47:55,460
how things are looking.

762
00:47:55,460 --> 00:47:58,480
Copies of vital statistics.

763
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:00,480
That's birth, deaths, and marriages.

764
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,480
You can charge $10?

765
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:03,480
Is that what it is?

766
00:48:03,559 --> 00:48:05,480
You charge $10.

767
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:11,059
And, you know, people need, now they need to get their real licenses or they need to

768
00:48:11,139 --> 00:48:14,059
verify and renew the driver's license.

769
00:48:14,139 --> 00:48:21,760
We were getting an awful lot more of the marriage certificate requests and those things.

770
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,760
Keep it 100?

771
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,369
Sure.

772
00:48:25,449 --> 00:48:28,139
Examination of records.

773
00:48:28,139 --> 00:48:36,210
When people come in to use the vault or look at our records, we can charge.

774
00:48:36,289 --> 00:48:40,280
Yeah, the state allowed us to go from $2 up to $4.

775
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,690
And it looks like it's still nowhere near.

776
00:48:44,769 --> 00:48:46,690
Can we probably go 100 then?

777
00:48:46,769 --> 00:48:47,980
Yeah.

778
00:48:48,059 --> 00:48:48,980
100.

779
00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:51,230
Okay.

780
00:48:51,309 --> 00:48:53,230
Certified and uncertified copies.

781
00:48:53,309 --> 00:48:54,230
That's not bad there.

782
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:55,230
Okay.

783
00:48:55,309 --> 00:48:58,219
Let's keep that 25.

784
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:03,610
Miscellaneous fee.

785
00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:04,610
That is Mike's favor.

786
00:49:04,690 --> 00:49:06,519
Okay.

787
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:08,519
$25.29.

788
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:12,679
You found 9 cents outside or something?

789
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,679
Yeah.

790
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,679
I can't tell you what that is off the top of my head.

791
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,679
Let's go zero.

792
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,679
I don't think it's a big deal.

793
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,679
Yeah, no.

794
00:49:23,869 --> 00:49:29,780
Now, this record restoration, we don't budget anything for it.

795
00:49:29,860 --> 00:49:35,820
Lori takes in the money and then she puts the record restoration and the technology money,

796
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:40,519
which should be the same amount, in a separate fund.

797
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:51,639
Any separate fund that we created many years ago that she can use to have her land record books Xeroxed,

798
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,710
any technology she can take out of there.

799
00:49:55,789 --> 00:49:57,710
And we have the fund building up.

800
00:49:59,610 --> 00:50:03,300
Why is there a difference in the amount?

801
00:50:03,380 --> 00:50:05,300
It should be both the same.

802
00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:07,300
Yeah, but it's budgeted for zero.

803
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:10,340
The income was $12.96.

804
00:50:10,420 --> 00:50:11,300
Oh.

805
00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:15,300
I don't know about that computer, Lori.

806
00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:16,300
You know what it is?

807
00:50:16,380 --> 00:50:19,300
That was probably the number prior.

808
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:26,769
And so the general ledger copies all the numbers over.

809
00:50:26,849 --> 00:50:28,769
But it just copies flat numbers.

810
00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:31,769
It doesn't put in the math, the calculations.

811
00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:34,769
So I have to go through and put in all the calculations.

812
00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:40,280
And if I miss it and I change a number, no, it's not adding.

813
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,280
I think we're pretty good, though.

814
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,280
We can figure this.

815
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,280
Yeah.

816
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,280
We have to fix it.

817
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:52,369
So record restoration has about $18,000 in it.

818
00:50:52,449 --> 00:50:58,650
So I think last time when we purchased the copier,

819
00:50:58,730 --> 00:51:03,650
we used money from the technology and record restoration funds.

820
00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:10,130
The red books in the vault that all the layer records go in,

821
00:51:10,210 --> 00:51:13,199
that's what we used to purchase them.

822
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,199
And you paid out this year $60,000.

823
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,199
$1,600 in record restoration.

824
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,199
We must have done some books.

825
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:25,519
And you paid out $900 in technology expenses.

826
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:29,519
So what Lori will do is take the money out of those funds

827
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,519
and reimburse our general fund.

828
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:32,519
Yeah.

829
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:38,579
Is that a zero?

830
00:51:38,659 --> 00:51:44,539
Yeah.

831
00:51:44,619 --> 00:51:46,539
Now the excess weight permit.

832
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:53,619
So once we decided we weren't going to huddle the people who did file them,

833
00:51:53,699 --> 00:51:56,579
but we were going to accept the ones that did,

834
00:51:56,699 --> 00:52:01,159
so it looks like $150 is a good number.

835
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,159
Okay.

836
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,260
They're about $10 each, so 15 people are honest.

837
00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:12,000
Yeah, that's when someone comes over the bridge with an overweight current.

838
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:13,670
Yeah.

839
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:19,099
Cannabis local filing fee, $200.

840
00:52:19,179 --> 00:52:20,099
Yep.

841
00:52:20,179 --> 00:52:29,909
Penalties and interest.

842
00:52:29,989 --> 00:52:34,929
This would be the delinquent taxes.

843
00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:39,250
We budgeted, we've taken in $14,000,

844
00:52:39,289 --> 00:52:41,250
took in $24,000.

845
00:52:41,329 --> 00:52:47,539
So I guess we could never really anticipate who files their taxes late,

846
00:52:47,619 --> 00:52:58,210
but Sally had two really large filers or property owners not pay this year,

847
00:52:58,289 --> 00:53:00,210
so it really made a difference.

848
00:53:00,289 --> 00:53:05,400
I mean, I think both of their taxes were $12,000 to $14,000.

849
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,400
And they were late.

850
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,469
And they were late, so that made a big difference.

851
00:53:10,550 --> 00:53:11,429
Okay.

852
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:14,559
I haven't gotten figures from her yet.

853
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,559
So we'll wait and see the penalty and interest.

854
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:22,559
Sally kind of gives a good estimate of knowing what she can collect,

855
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:26,559
who's going to pay up their taxes,

856
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:32,230
and it's just the same ones every year that just don't want to pay on time.

857
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:37,230
I think I usually turn over about $100,000 every year,

858
00:53:37,309 --> 00:53:41,269
and I think this year it's about $105,000.

859
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:42,269
How is it?

860
00:53:42,349 --> 00:53:48,079
It's a little bit higher than the other one.

861
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,079
The income tax revenue, $131,000 she took in.

862
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:52,079
Yeah.

863
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:56,139
Now, are we supposed to be budgeting for that, too?

864
00:53:56,219 --> 00:53:58,070
Let's see.

865
00:53:58,150 --> 00:54:01,070
They gave us notes from last year.

866
00:54:01,150 --> 00:54:02,070
No?

867
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:04,070
I don't remember them saying.

868
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:05,070
No, I didn't.

869
00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:07,070
Because we've already. . .

870
00:54:07,150 --> 00:54:09,090
Yeah.

871
00:54:09,170 --> 00:54:15,420
So we can budget zero there.

872
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:19,420
We don't know how much we're going to pay if we're going to pay up or not.

873
00:54:19,420 --> 00:54:23,360
Yeah.

874
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,360
So the first one would be blank, Sally.

875
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,360
The second line is a zero.

876
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,360
Yep.

877
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:33,599
Reimbursed tax sale expenses.

878
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,690
So at a tax sale, nobody bid on it.

879
00:54:38,769 --> 00:54:40,690
The town acquired it.

880
00:54:40,769 --> 00:54:43,690
And then later on, there were two people who came forward

881
00:54:43,769 --> 00:54:46,690
and purchased the town's interest in a reduction period,

882
00:54:46,769 --> 00:54:50,690
so the town received that money.

883
00:54:50,769 --> 00:54:52,690
We can't ever bank on that.

884
00:54:52,769 --> 00:54:53,769
So I think . . .

885
00:54:53,849 --> 00:54:54,769
Keep it at zero?

886
00:54:54,809 --> 00:54:55,570
Yeah.

887
00:54:55,690 --> 00:54:58,690
Because somewhere we paid out, you know, expenses.

888
00:54:58,769 --> 00:54:59,690
Right.

889
00:54:59,769 --> 00:55:01,690
Were you ever part of the select board?

890
00:55:01,769 --> 00:55:02,690
Select board tax.

891
00:55:02,769 --> 00:55:05,690
We paid out $1,500.

892
00:55:05,769 --> 00:55:08,739
Yeah.

893
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:09,739
For property.

894
00:55:09,820 --> 00:55:10,739
$1,500.

895
00:55:10,820 --> 00:55:13,340
Yep.

896
00:55:13,420 --> 00:55:14,340
We took in. . .

897
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:16,340
And then they reimbursed us $4,000.

898
00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:17,340
That's pretty darn good.

899
00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:18,340
Yeah.

900
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:21,690
Well, by the time we pay attorney fee and all that.

901
00:55:21,769 --> 00:55:22,690
Yep.

902
00:55:22,769 --> 00:55:27,380
Dog license, Laurie.

903
00:55:27,460 --> 00:55:29,539
Oh, that was good.

904
00:55:29,619 --> 00:55:30,539
A lot of that was. . .

905
00:55:30,619 --> 00:55:31,539
It was the $50 property.

906
00:55:31,539 --> 00:55:34,539
It was the $50 fines you guys implemented there.

907
00:55:34,619 --> 00:55:35,539
Yeah.

908
00:55:35,619 --> 00:55:37,539
It made a difference.

909
00:55:37,619 --> 00:55:39,079
I don't know.

910
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:41,079
Keep it $1,500 or higher?

911
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:43,079
I'd like to think people are going to pay on time

912
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:46,079
and we will need to worry about the $50.

913
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:47,079
Yeah.

914
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:48,079
Is that $50?

915
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:49,280
Yep.

916
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,269
Receipt dog officer.

917
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:52,269
Oh, yeah.

918
00:55:52,349 --> 00:55:53,269
That computer is really . . .

919
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:55,269
Receipt dog officer.

920
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:58,269
I'm just going to redo all of the calculations.

921
00:55:58,349 --> 00:56:00,260
Yeah.

922
00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:02,260
Receipt dog officer and . . .

923
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:05,380
What's that other word there?

924
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:07,380
Dog officer and . . .

925
00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:08,380
Oh.

926
00:56:08,460 --> 00:56:09,380
Dog officer and . . .

927
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:11,630
I don't know.

928
00:56:11,710 --> 00:56:12,630
Okay.

929
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:13,630
That's a zero.

930
00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:17,190
I think . . .

931
00:56:17,269 --> 00:56:26,199
Like if the dog officer peddles a dog and we get reimbursed on our costs, that's money

932
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,199
covered in.

933
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,199
And that could be reimbursed.

934
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,199
Yeah.

935
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,199
That could be reimbursed . . .

936
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,159
You all have to see what that's supposed to mean.

937
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:39,280
Permits and appeals for Board of Adjustment at $90.

938
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,690
Okay.

939
00:56:40,690 --> 00:56:44,849
that ninety dollars was for our sign i think that's that was us we were the only one that

940
00:56:44,849 --> 00:56:53,079
went to the zba let's do zero because it's really the normally the applicant would file

941
00:56:57,539 --> 00:57:00,739
john i was going to ask you before the last snow

942
00:57:00,739 --> 00:57:04,150
could we get the sign in now because there was no snow

943
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:15,780
i haven't heard any correspondence i'm wondering if we need to find somebody to do the sign

944
00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:31,989
yeah whenever i thought well it's nice out you know we don't have any snow

945
00:57:35,269 --> 00:57:42,840
i know because yeah sometimes it doesn't even work thank you let's go permits and appeals zero

946
00:57:43,969 --> 00:57:52,559
permits and appeals to the zoning administrator yeah um keep it 1500 because we budget it

947
00:57:52,559 --> 00:58:00,900
coming in and then we pay well we paid she didn't submit her final hour

948
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:07,219
she paid we paid out 1800 but it's not in the same years because she last year she had

949
00:58:07,219 --> 00:58:07,460
some

950
00:58:07,539 --> 00:58:18,880
so we have 2023 expenses in our 2024. yep my heart is even though the town looks like we're

951
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:34,179
collecting it and it looks like we're paying it the people who apply pay these fees one is it's

952
00:58:34,179 --> 00:58:40,480
coming in and going out we're okay we can't do one side and not the other we can't do one side

953
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:50,280
without the other we either have to have them both or not okay recycling receipts um we budgeted 13

954
00:58:50,599 --> 00:59:03,969
oh we took in 12 380. oh that's close yep 12. right you better raise your well they don't get

955
00:59:03,969 --> 00:59:10,559
raised until november so we won't see much of that i don't see it i'm gonna say 12 000.

956
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:25,940
you want 12 000. that's for some of the cards to the public yes yeah we have more seniors doing it

957
00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:30,579
than the younger people is that a problem

958
00:59:30,739 --> 00:59:35,139
whole business after you pay the people to come and get the stocks

959
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:46,440
we can't afford to charge people what we have to charge our expenses are forty seven thousand

960
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:53,480
five hundred dollars you take involved fall three so fifteen thousand we're taking in

961
00:59:54,199 --> 01:00:01,360
nobody would bring in uh trash if you charge them correctly exactly and they would be able to

962
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,119
sign the roads and it would be a mess so i'm not picking it up right

963
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:14,559
i've done enough people kind of squawk about having to pay a hundred dollars yeah they're

964
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:21,119
already complaining about it now if we we have to put it up to a couple hundred dollars a car

965
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:40,639
you're better off you have the incinerator yes yes so should we keep it 13 or drop it to 12. yeah last

966
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,960
Last year we budgeted $12,000 and we got $13,000, so we went up to $13,000 and now we're at $12,000.

967
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:51,699
Recycling receipts demo, $3,000.

968
01:00:53,070 --> 01:00:54,349
This is the math you said.

969
01:00:54,590 --> 01:00:59,210
This is the demolition that we received and we charged separately for.

970
01:00:59,829 --> 01:01:03,139
You get rid of your microwave and your washing machines.

971
01:01:03,340 --> 01:01:06,920
And I think since Carol's been on top of it, she's been on top of it.

972
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:12,980
Yeah, we just got to charge maybe $10 for my paint cans.

973
01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:15,639
Who did that, Carol?

974
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:17,760
$10.

975
01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:23,780
I know she's been running around by herself down there pretty much.

976
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,260
I know.

977
01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:26,039
I know, I heard that too.

978
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:26,300
Yeah.

979
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,079
Yeah.

980
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,659
She's trying to, you know, butt beat nice.

981
01:01:33,059 --> 01:01:33,599
I know.

982
01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:35,650
But it's not really helping.

983
01:01:35,909 --> 01:01:36,289
No.

984
01:01:36,889 --> 01:01:38,389
She's what a tip can.

985
01:01:38,510 --> 01:01:39,130
I'll get her that.

986
01:01:40,059 --> 01:01:41,539
But it's going to be the same.

987
01:01:42,579 --> 01:01:43,579
That's the great thing.

988
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:46,400
I'm hearing loud, loud ones.

989
01:01:49,659 --> 01:01:50,699
Recycling returns.

990
01:01:51,059 --> 01:01:57,300
This is when Dave brings stuff down to the junkyard and we get money back.

991
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,000
Yeah.

992
01:01:58,699 --> 01:01:59,880
We budgeted zero.

993
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:00,880
Let's keep it zero.

994
01:02:01,579 --> 01:02:03,000
What did we decide for the other one?

995
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:03,840
$3,000?

996
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:06,659
Not $3,000?

997
01:02:07,059 --> 01:02:07,260
Yeah.

998
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:07,619
Yeah.

999
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:10,860
Recycling returns?

1000
01:02:12,409 --> 01:02:12,889
Zero.

1001
01:02:14,019 --> 01:02:15,360
Recycling slip grant.

1002
01:02:16,349 --> 01:02:21,090
I can only take that out because we as a town don't do slip grants anymore.

1003
01:02:21,250 --> 01:02:22,269
It's all through the alliance.

1004
01:02:22,489 --> 01:02:23,150
Right, right.

1005
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:25,429
So I'll take that line out of the right now.

1006
01:02:28,369 --> 01:02:30,250
Recycling receipts, the hauler.

1007
01:02:32,090 --> 01:02:33,590
It should be about $75.

1008
01:02:33,809 --> 01:02:34,550
How do you get $100?

1009
01:02:34,690 --> 01:02:35,630
Do you get another hauler?

1010
01:02:36,130 --> 01:02:36,570
Oh, yeah.

1011
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:37,210
We got a hit.

1012
01:02:37,409 --> 01:02:38,449
We got a fourth one.

1013
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:41,460
We're down to $3,000.

1014
01:02:42,619 --> 01:02:43,300
We got a $5,000.

1015
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,059
We're down to $4,000.

1016
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:44,900
Yeah.

1017
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,059
And $3,000 you pay.

1018
01:02:46,059 --> 01:02:49,699
My friend never pays off the phone.

1019
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,440
Well, wait until I set up the stuff.

1020
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:53,980
I haven't set up the stuff yet.

1021
01:02:54,219 --> 01:02:55,619
So where are we at?

1022
01:02:55,739 --> 01:02:56,099
$100.

1023
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:56,679
$100.

1024
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:57,099
Yeah.

1025
01:02:57,739 --> 01:03:00,599
All right.

1026
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:01,679
Receipts, copier.

1027
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,780
Ted says it's a copier.

1028
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:04,260
We're moving.

1029
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,280
Keep it $10.

1030
01:03:07,539 --> 01:03:08,139
$10.

1031
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:11,079
Receipt, fax.

1032
01:03:11,739 --> 01:03:12,300
$50.

1033
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:18,309
DMV renewal fee.

1034
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:20,320
$15.

1035
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:21,320
Get right over here.

1036
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:24,250
What are those, like, temporary tax?

1037
01:03:25,070 --> 01:03:25,550
Right.

1038
01:03:25,949 --> 01:03:31,510
Where somebody pays down $3, and we will give them a little temporary.

1039
01:03:32,349 --> 01:03:36,260
So we do a $15?

1040
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:36,880
Yeah.

1041
01:03:38,409 --> 01:03:38,750
Okay.

1042
01:03:39,530 --> 01:03:42,030
Miscellaneous revenue, $19.62.

1043
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,559
One of them was a dog in there.

1044
01:03:46,579 --> 01:03:48,360
You were going to move to dog or something.

1045
01:03:49,059 --> 01:03:50,519
So I've moved that.

1046
01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:59,989
If I did it, I should have, and I will look.

1047
01:03:59,989 --> 01:04:20,239
But we received a refund for the household hazardous waste facility that they built in Bennington and each town had to pitch in so much, but they received more grant funds than they anticipated, so they gave money back to the towns, and I didn't have a place to put it, so I put it in this idea.

1048
01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:24,119
But that amount was $19.15.

1049
01:04:24,119 --> 01:04:32,059
So that would leave, like, $45.

1050
01:04:32,059 --> 01:04:38,599
$45 extra, and most of that is the $5 people will pay to post their land.

1051
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:45,429
They don't have a revenue line item for land posting, so let's just keep it zero.

1052
01:04:45,630 --> 01:04:46,090
Zero, okay.

1053
01:04:46,670 --> 01:04:55,030
And I think you said you had a dog in there, but you moved the dog and get the dog out of there.

1054
01:04:55,449 --> 01:04:55,650
Yeah.

1055
01:04:55,889 --> 01:04:57,949
We did those with dogs and figured that out.

1056
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:03,059
And highway receipts.

1057
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:05,019
This is going to be a fun one, too.

1058
01:05:06,539 --> 01:05:10,650
So they prepaid two.

1059
01:05:11,050 --> 01:05:23,610
Of the 2025 payments in 2024, because there was so much flooding in July, there were so many towns that were having a lot of trouble with their highways, so the state paid us early.

1060
01:05:24,780 --> 01:05:29,119
So I really feel like you only want to budget $20,000.

1061
01:05:29,260 --> 01:05:34,000
You don't want to budget for four payments next year, because we should only get two.

1062
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:34,760
Okay.

1063
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:40,989
Which is what we did last year, but they gave us extra payments because of the flooding.

1064
01:05:43,469 --> 01:05:43,530
Okay.

1065
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:48,210
So nothing else that we need to budget for.

1066
01:05:48,349 --> 01:05:52,269
Well, the miscellaneous receipts, what that is, but that will be a zero.

1067
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,739
We should put it back to a grant.

1068
01:05:58,340 --> 01:06:01,210
We should, and I can look this up.

1069
01:06:01,289 --> 01:06:04,949
I don't know if you want to put it here, what we anticipated it back from FEMA.

1070
01:06:05,429 --> 01:06:12,280
I think so, because we don't know when they're going to pay and we don't know how much they're going to pay.

1071
01:06:13,030 --> 01:06:15,710
We did get our class two grant.

1072
01:06:16,369 --> 01:06:20,920
I don't know if we're going to budget for some of ours.

1073
01:06:20,940 --> 01:06:27,639
Should we want to budget for grant funds, or if we don't, do they really want to wait until Dave is here to talk to them?

1074
01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:28,619
Yeah.

1075
01:06:29,550 --> 01:06:35,670
This FEMA flood reimbursement, this $60,000, Lori said it came in in August.

1076
01:06:35,989 --> 01:06:42,699
$8,700 was for one of the floods the year before last.

1077
01:06:44,510 --> 01:06:45,070
2022.

1078
01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:46,190
2022.

1079
01:06:48,269 --> 01:06:52,730
And then we got $52,000 in October for $22,000.

1080
01:06:53,429 --> 01:06:55,429
2023, still 2022.

1081
01:06:56,250 --> 01:06:56,809
2022?

1082
01:06:57,769 --> 01:06:58,190
Okay.

1083
01:06:58,670 --> 01:06:59,940
2022.

1084
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,280
It's all 2022.

1085
01:07:01,699 --> 01:07:06,849
And there's another one yet to be received in 2022.

1086
01:07:07,429 --> 01:07:08,590
Still for 2022.

1087
01:07:08,989 --> 01:07:15,159
All that FEMA work is, how do they ever keep track of big floods?

1088
01:07:15,699 --> 01:07:18,739
I think we should just go zero.

1089
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,400
I'll tell you also why.

1090
01:07:22,409 --> 01:07:26,579
Last year, the highway, when the auditors came,

1091
01:07:26,699 --> 01:07:29,699
came through and did all their, whatever they do with their money,

1092
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,179
and tell us how much we have for a fund balance.

1093
01:07:32,619 --> 01:07:34,179
The highway was in a deficit.

1094
01:07:34,980 --> 01:07:36,519
And the town was in a positive.

1095
01:07:38,409 --> 01:07:40,869
The towns are not supposed to run on a deficit.

1096
01:07:40,869 --> 01:07:42,869
If we do, we're supposed to raise the money.

1097
01:07:44,619 --> 01:07:53,590
But, as Lori let's just, we've got money on the town side to cover it if we had to.

1098
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,039
If we have to take a vote and move it, we can do that.

1099
01:07:58,519 --> 01:08:00,260
But we've got enough to cover the highway.

1100
01:08:00,260 --> 01:08:00,280
We've got enough to cover the highway.

1101
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:00,360
We've got enough to cover the highway.

1102
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:00,380
We've got enough to cover the highway.

1103
01:08:00,380 --> 01:08:01,880
We've got enough to cover the highway deficit if we had to.

1104
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,849
So we didn't do anything with the highway deficit.

1105
01:08:07,070 --> 01:08:08,250
And here it's $60,000.

1106
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:11,590
And I think that's going to help Dave's fund balance this year.

1107
01:08:12,650 --> 01:08:15,900
And put us back in the positive.

1108
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:30,159
We're about to go to expenses.

1109
01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:31,439
Are you still up short?

1110
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,760
It's up to these guys.

1111
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,869
I'm good.

1112
01:08:35,329 --> 01:08:36,289
Okay, we're not going to do.

1113
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:38,659
Keep going?

1114
01:08:39,020 --> 01:08:39,239
Yeah.

1115
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:39,939
Okay.

1116
01:08:42,729 --> 01:08:43,869
AO, salary.

1117
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,239
We budgeted $1,500.

1118
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,640
She took in $1,800.

1119
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,479
I mean, yes.

1120
01:08:50,619 --> 01:08:51,680
We budgeted $1,500.

1121
01:08:51,939 --> 01:08:53,119
We paid her $1,800.

1122
01:08:53,659 --> 01:08:56,500
This $500 was from 2023.

1123
01:08:57,260 --> 01:09:02,510
And then education fund, we budgeted $150.

1124
01:09:03,069 --> 01:09:04,609
And she didn't use any for education.

1125
01:09:06,010 --> 01:09:07,970
And expenses, we budgeted $50.

1126
01:09:08,329 --> 01:09:10,869
And she spent $10.59 for expenses.

1127
01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:15,020
Could be posters or postage.

1128
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,260
She's like, it's more fire-laden paraphernalia.

1129
01:09:19,819 --> 01:09:20,779
So she'll be just fine.

1130
01:09:20,779 --> 01:09:23,939
Can you just keep the same amounts, $1,500?

1131
01:09:23,939 --> 01:09:26,640
Yeah, we're not talking about a bunch of money we're selling.

1132
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,140
Okay.

1133
01:09:31,810 --> 01:09:34,210
Auditor, do we know their amount?

1134
01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:35,409
Oh, $26,500.

1135
01:09:35,409 --> 01:09:37,260
$26,500.

1136
01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:42,119
I think you gave that to me last time.

1137
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:44,920
And thank goodness we have the signed contract,

1138
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,659
because we can use some of that money for it.

1139
01:09:47,659 --> 01:09:48,159
Yeah.

1140
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:48,949
Yeah.

1141
01:09:48,949 --> 01:09:52,409
So it's, the audit is $26,500.

1142
01:09:52,409 --> 01:09:55,159
$26,500.

1143
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:59,899
Postage, about, this is to mail out the town reports.

1144
01:09:59,899 --> 01:10:01,399
$1,000.

1145
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:04,590
We budgeted it, and it cost us $1,100.

1146
01:10:04,590 --> 01:10:06,890
Do you want to budget, like, $1,200?

1147
01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:08,689
Stamps are not getting cheaper.

1148
01:10:08,689 --> 01:10:09,189
Yeah.

1149
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:12,770
$1,200?

1150
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:13,270
No.

1151
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:16,800
Some towns just say, well, you have to vote on it.

1152
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,100
Come and pick up your town report at the town office.

1153
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:21,739
Do you think people would do that?

1154
01:10:21,739 --> 01:10:24,850
They're so used to getting them through the mail.

1155
01:10:24,850 --> 01:10:26,630
Say what?

1156
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:29,029
We always mail the town reports to everybody.

1157
01:10:29,029 --> 01:10:32,130
So there are some towns that are trying to save on postage

1158
01:10:32,130 --> 01:10:33,829
and just say they're...

1159
01:10:33,930 --> 01:10:35,430
We're going to mail them to the town office.

1160
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:37,270
Come and get them.

1161
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:38,470
That's not a bad idea.

1162
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:39,569
Is it going to tie you up?

1163
01:10:39,569 --> 01:10:41,270
Everybody's going to come and say, oh, all right.

1164
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:41,770
Oh, yeah.

1165
01:10:41,770 --> 01:10:42,569
Oh, and then...

1166
01:10:42,569 --> 01:10:43,470
Leave them at a box out there.

1167
01:10:43,470 --> 01:10:44,369
Just hold, like, a stack or something.

1168
01:10:44,369 --> 01:10:44,869
Exactly.

1169
01:10:44,869 --> 01:10:45,369
Yeah, right there.

1170
01:10:45,369 --> 01:10:45,869
Grab them.

1171
01:10:45,869 --> 01:10:49,310
Just go into voters.

1172
01:10:49,310 --> 01:10:50,109
There you go.

1173
01:10:50,109 --> 01:10:51,710
You'd have to put it on the warrant,

1174
01:10:51,710 --> 01:10:53,109
and you'd have to vote on it.

1175
01:10:53,109 --> 01:10:55,289
You'd have to vote on it.

1176
01:10:55,289 --> 01:10:57,789
If it fails, you're going to want to put money in there

1177
01:10:57,789 --> 01:10:58,989
in case it fails.

1178
01:10:58,989 --> 01:10:59,489
Yeah.

1179
01:10:59,489 --> 01:11:05,079
If it helps save the town money, I think we should do it.

1180
01:11:05,079 --> 01:11:06,979
With all the Facebook stuff we have now,

1181
01:11:06,979 --> 01:11:09,779
I guess you could get the word out and...

1182
01:11:09,779 --> 01:11:12,479
We do put a copy of the town report on the website now.

1183
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:13,279
Yeah.

1184
01:11:13,279 --> 01:11:15,779
And maybe people won't even...

1185
01:11:15,779 --> 01:11:17,680
The other thing is, how many people actually look at it?

1186
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,579
Like, you're spending stamps and something,

1187
01:11:19,579 --> 01:11:23,319
and they're probably people who look at it.

1188
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:24,119
They used to...

1189
01:11:24,119 --> 01:11:27,680
First thing you looked at, birth, deaths, marriage...

1190
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,479
Oh, no, that was second, third, first,

1191
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,079
was the delinquent tax list.

1192
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:31,779
Yeah.

1193
01:11:31,779 --> 01:11:33,279
And then birth, deaths, marriages,

1194
01:11:33,279 --> 01:11:37,039
which aren't in there anymore.

1195
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:39,909
I think it's a good idea.

1196
01:11:39,909 --> 01:11:41,810
Everything's electronic anyways.

1197
01:11:41,810 --> 01:11:43,710
Leave it in the hallway.

1198
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:44,909
Leave a stamp in a box.

1199
01:11:44,909 --> 01:11:51,279
With their stickers, or take a sticker.

1200
01:11:51,279 --> 01:11:53,180
Because you don't want to order more than...

1201
01:11:53,180 --> 01:11:54,979
Yeah, so you have like a checklist

1202
01:11:54,979 --> 01:11:57,880
with everybody's name in the town.

1203
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,739
Say, oop, John Donne came down and got his...

1204
01:12:01,739 --> 01:12:03,739
He's got one, so I can't...

1205
01:12:03,739 --> 01:12:05,829
I can't come down and get another one.

1206
01:12:05,829 --> 01:12:06,829
Well, that's the hard part,

1207
01:12:06,829 --> 01:12:10,329
is it's really only for registered voters.

1208
01:12:10,329 --> 01:12:16,199
And, like, I don't know.

1209
01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:17,199
I can't think of a...

1210
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:18,899
But sometimes there's, like,

1211
01:12:18,899 --> 01:12:20,800
five registered voters in a household,

1212
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,300
and I just said one per household.

1213
01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:26,600
But in actuality, all five of those people

1214
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,500
would be entitled to a report.

1215
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:31,210
Why can't you e-mail...

1216
01:12:31,210 --> 01:12:35,289
Why can't you e-mail a PDF report

1217
01:12:35,289 --> 01:12:37,189
to all the registered voters,

1218
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:39,989
and in that same e-mail, state to them,

1219
01:12:39,989 --> 01:12:44,970
if you would like a hard copy, please e-mail me,

1220
01:12:44,970 --> 01:12:46,270
and I will have it ready for you.

1221
01:12:46,270 --> 01:12:47,670
You can come pick it up at the town.

1222
01:12:47,670 --> 01:12:52,779
I have an e-mail list of maybe 70 or 80 people.

1223
01:12:52,779 --> 01:12:54,079
I was going to say, it's not very big.

1224
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:55,180
It's not very big.

1225
01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:58,380
And then the older group is never going to be there.

1226
01:12:58,380 --> 01:12:59,979
Yeah, that's true.

1227
01:12:59,979 --> 01:13:01,479
So the best thing is, I mean,

1228
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,180
if we're going to decide to go that direction,

1229
01:13:04,180 --> 01:13:06,180
would be somebody who could, like,

1230
01:13:06,180 --> 01:13:07,680
go to all the older people

1231
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,479
and be able to get all their books and then deliver them,

1232
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,880
because that's the only way those people are going to get it,

1233
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,439
if you don't deliver by mail.

1234
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,039
I mean, maybe...

1235
01:13:18,039 --> 01:13:21,840
Maybe people who don't want it by mail and you want it...

1236
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:27,479
By state law, we have to forward it to every registered voter,

1237
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:33,859
unless the warrant allows us to just have it available here.

1238
01:13:33,859 --> 01:13:35,060
So does every registered...

1239
01:13:35,060 --> 01:13:38,430
The question is, does every registered voter

1240
01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:40,029
require to have an e-mail address?

1241
01:13:40,029 --> 01:13:40,930
Because if they don't,

1242
01:13:40,930 --> 01:13:43,130
then that means you can't electronically do it.

1243
01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:43,729
No.

1244
01:13:43,729 --> 01:13:45,819
So you have to do both.

1245
01:13:45,819 --> 01:13:46,989
Right.

1246
01:13:46,989 --> 01:13:49,989
That's what I have to do with the health insurance, too.

1247
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:52,569
Oh.

1248
01:13:52,569 --> 01:13:54,569
Do you think we should put another paragraph in?

1249
01:13:54,569 --> 01:13:58,560
I think we should put it on the warrant, yeah.

1250
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,460
You know, the other thing is, you could put it on the website,

1251
01:14:00,460 --> 01:14:03,159
and they could download it themselves.

1252
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:05,979
Yeah.

1253
01:14:05,979 --> 01:14:08,479
I think the other word we could go to is that,

1254
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,680
if we had, you know,

1255
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,810
people who said that they really wanted one,

1256
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:14,310
and then they have to be, like...

1257
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:16,810
So we have to get them made by X

1258
01:14:16,810 --> 01:14:18,909
to be able to get them out to people.

1259
01:14:18,909 --> 01:14:20,810
So then, by X, you need to say,

1260
01:14:20,810 --> 01:14:24,359
I want a copy of this.

1261
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:24,960
And then...

1262
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,960
We're only making 50 instead of 500.

1263
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,880
Or 800.

1264
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,079
Often.

1265
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:34,079
I mean, technically, like you said,

1266
01:14:34,079 --> 01:14:36,979
if there was a list of everybody on labels,

1267
01:14:36,979 --> 01:14:40,279
either your label, either it's mailed to you,

1268
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:42,979
or if you let me know, you'll stop and pick it up,

1269
01:14:42,979 --> 01:14:44,979
or you want to e-mail, then...

1270
01:14:44,979 --> 01:14:49,279
So, okay, so say we go at town meeting and say,

1271
01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:51,279
the town reports are available here.

1272
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:51,579
Yeah.

1273
01:14:51,579 --> 01:14:52,279
Pick them up.

1274
01:14:52,279 --> 01:14:52,880
Yeah.

1275
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,279
Well, so-and-so said, I can't pick them up.

1276
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,779
So then she ended up mailing them again.

1277
01:14:57,779 --> 01:14:59,479
Tons of phone calls and tons of...

1278
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,479
And there goes...

1279
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:00,979
Right.

1280
01:15:00,979 --> 01:15:03,479
Sometimes you create more work than necessary.

1281
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:04,479
Yeah, that's why you're doing it.

1282
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,479
Mm-hmm.

1283
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,479
That is true.

1284
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:07,479
So you do your work.

1285
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,979
Or hire somebody,

1286
01:15:09,979 --> 01:15:11,979
temporarily, and just deliver them all,

1287
01:15:11,979 --> 01:15:13,979
and you save yourself stamps.

1288
01:15:13,979 --> 01:15:16,180
You probably pay less to the temporary person

1289
01:15:16,180 --> 01:15:17,479
to take a couple hours.

1290
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:17,979
Done.

1291
01:15:17,979 --> 01:15:20,479
We used to try to do that as an eighth-grade fundraiser.

1292
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:21,479
There you go.

1293
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,479
And have all the eighth-graders deliver them,

1294
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,279
but it didn't work out well.

1295
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,510
Happened in one town that Cub Scouts or somebody

1296
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:30,510
said they were delivering them,

1297
01:15:30,510 --> 01:15:36,010
and then they later, past the deadline of 10 days notice,

1298
01:15:36,010 --> 01:15:39,420
they were found in somebody's trunk in the car.

1299
01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:40,680
Yeah.

1300
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,810
So, and then we had one man that just walked around town,

1301
01:15:44,810 --> 01:15:48,810
and he walked up and down the road and delivered them all.

1302
01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:51,810
But I think you could put them in the mailboxes then,

1303
01:15:51,810 --> 01:15:54,310
and maybe I'm not supposed to put them in the mailbox

1304
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:55,310
or tie them on.

1305
01:15:55,310 --> 01:15:55,810
Yeah.

1306
01:15:58,579 --> 01:16:01,079
Maybe we open the can of worms here.

1307
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:02,079
What do you think?

1308
01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:04,369
Well, let's put up some more.

1309
01:16:04,369 --> 01:16:05,369
We'll think about it.

1310
01:16:05,369 --> 01:16:05,869
Yeah.

1311
01:16:05,869 --> 01:16:07,369
Question mark article.

1312
01:16:07,369 --> 01:16:08,869
We can think about it.

1313
01:16:08,869 --> 01:16:10,659
And town reports.

1314
01:16:10,659 --> 01:16:12,159
This is to print them up.

1315
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:15,159
We budgeted 24 and paid 21.

1316
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:17,159
I think still go 24.

1317
01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:24,550
Board of Health salary, $25.

1318
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:25,050
Yeah.

1319
01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:27,050
And expense is zero.

1320
01:16:27,050 --> 01:16:32,300
Cemetery, we don't have their...

1321
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:33,300
We do not have their...

1322
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:34,800
We don't have their budget, yeah.

1323
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,000
Okay.

1324
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,000
Conservation commission salary.

1325
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:47,159
We budgeted $150, and only part of the board got paid.

1326
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:50,409
Conservation, that's still the same number.

1327
01:16:50,409 --> 01:16:51,409
Yeah.

1328
01:16:51,409 --> 01:16:52,409
Thank you.

1329
01:16:52,409 --> 01:16:53,409
Good night.

1330
01:16:53,409 --> 01:16:56,109
Good night.

1331
01:16:56,109 --> 01:16:58,899
$150.

1332
01:16:58,899 --> 01:17:02,529
And their expenses is zero.

1333
01:17:02,529 --> 01:17:07,029
Delinquent tax collector salary, we budgeted $5,000.

1334
01:17:07,029 --> 01:17:10,220
She took in six this year.

1335
01:17:10,220 --> 01:17:13,220
Last year we budgeted five, and she only got paid four.

1336
01:17:13,220 --> 01:17:17,720
So it's kind of a toss-up.

1337
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:18,220
Five?

1338
01:17:18,220 --> 01:17:20,720
It depends on who doesn't pay the taxes, right?

1339
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:21,720
Right, right.

1340
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:29,800
And that number is really paid by the people who are late with their taxes.

1341
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,800
Yeah, it's on the penalty and interest.

1342
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,800
So even though we're saying we're budgeting $5,000, it's not really coming out of our pocket?

1343
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,840
It's a little misleading?

1344
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,840
Because when they pay the 8%, 5% goes to her and 3% really goes into the town.

1345
01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:51,319
So under penalty and interest, we've kind of given ourselves a little leeway there last year,

1346
01:17:51,319 --> 01:17:54,319
because we budgeted $14,000 and took in $24,000.

1347
01:17:54,319 --> 01:17:55,319
Yeah.

1348
01:17:55,319 --> 01:18:00,319
So some of that covers the salary for the delinquent tax collector.

1349
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:01,319
Yeah.

1350
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:10,239
Delinquent tax legal notices, zero.

1351
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:12,270
Yeah.

1352
01:18:12,270 --> 01:18:20,680
The expense, we, the salary does not take the 8%.

1353
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,689
Right.

1354
01:18:23,689 --> 01:18:27,449
We buy supplies for the delinquent tax collector.

1355
01:18:27,449 --> 01:18:30,989
Postage, paper.

1356
01:18:30,989 --> 01:18:33,989
The $150 at the bottom.

1357
01:18:33,989 --> 01:18:34,989
Yeah.

1358
01:18:34,989 --> 01:18:35,989
Sale.

1359
01:18:35,989 --> 01:18:36,989
Office expense.

1360
01:18:36,989 --> 01:18:37,989
Oh, that's where it is.

1361
01:18:37,989 --> 01:18:38,989
Okay.

1362
01:18:38,989 --> 01:18:39,989
Yep.

1363
01:18:39,989 --> 01:18:47,140
Is this when, if somebody does not bid on a property, we have to...

1364
01:18:47,140 --> 01:18:48,369
That's the one.

1365
01:18:48,369 --> 01:18:49,560
Yeah.

1366
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:55,100
We have to, we acquire it and we have to pay for it.

1367
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:56,100
Which is kind of wiping out the taxes.

1368
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:57,100
And we're old.

1369
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:58,100
I don't know how all that works.

1370
01:18:58,100 --> 01:18:59,100
But I think that's that out there.

1371
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:00,100
Are you talking about the expense?

1372
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:01,100
Tax sale or expense?

1373
01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:02,100
Expense.

1374
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:03,100
Yeah.

1375
01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:04,100
I thought we had printer and cartridge there.

1376
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:05,100
The tax sale.

1377
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:07,989
The tax office expense.

1378
01:19:07,989 --> 01:19:08,989
That's still office.

1379
01:19:08,989 --> 01:19:09,989
That's still the office.

1380
01:19:09,989 --> 01:19:10,989
The $1,300.

1381
01:19:10,989 --> 01:19:12,920
That should go down to $1,300.

1382
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:13,920
Well, I guess we'll look into both of these and see what most rumors be.

1383
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Printer and supplies.

1384
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:15,920
I think the printer and supplies is the same.

1385
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:16,920
Yeah.

1386
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:17,979
Yeah.

1387
01:19:17,979 --> 01:19:18,979
Yeah.

1388
01:19:18,979 --> 01:19:19,979
Yeah.

1389
01:19:19,979 --> 01:19:20,979
Yeah.

1390
01:19:20,979 --> 01:19:21,979
Yeah.

1391
01:19:21,979 --> 01:19:22,979
Yeah.

1392
01:19:22,979 --> 01:19:23,979
Yeah.

1393
01:19:23,979 --> 01:19:24,979
Yeah.

1394
01:19:24,979 --> 01:19:25,979
Yeah.

1395
01:19:25,979 --> 01:19:26,979
Yeah.

1396
01:19:26,979 --> 01:19:29,300
Yeah.

1397
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:30,300
Yeah.

1398
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:31,300
Yeah.

1399
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:32,300
Yes.

1400
01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:33,300
All right.

1401
01:19:34,699 --> 01:19:35,699
Now we have to try to figure out this for the last one.

1402
01:19:35,699 --> 01:19:36,699
Yeah.

1403
01:19:36,699 --> 01:19:37,699
Because you would need probably a whole lot of supplies this year.

1404
01:19:37,699 --> 01:19:38,699
Yeah.

1405
01:19:38,699 --> 01:19:39,699
We could probably go back to $150.

1406
01:19:39,699 --> 01:19:40,699
I don't know.

1407
01:19:40,699 --> 01:19:41,699
Let's see what she does.

1408
01:19:41,699 --> 01:19:42,930
Yeah.

1409
01:19:42,930 --> 01:19:43,930
Let's see what Sally puts in for a budget there.

1410
01:19:43,930 --> 01:19:44,930
We shouldn't be doing this.

1411
01:19:44,930 --> 01:19:45,850
And the dog officer, Luke, has not given me his budget.

1412
01:19:45,850 --> 01:19:46,850
Yep.

1413
01:19:46,850 --> 01:19:49,430
Well, we'll keep his salary $900.

1414
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:54,020
I think he capped it.

1415
01:19:54,020 --> 01:19:55,020
Yeah.

1416
01:19:55,020 --> 01:19:56,739
License books and tags.

1417
01:19:56,739 --> 01:19:57,739
Yeah.

1418
01:19:57,739 --> 01:19:58,739
Yeah.

1419
01:19:58,739 --> 01:19:59,739
Yeah.

1420
01:19:59,739 --> 01:20:02,500
Yeah.

1421
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:05,899
Yeah.

1422
01:20:05,899 --> 01:20:06,899
Yeah.

1423
01:20:06,899 --> 01:20:07,300
Yeah.

1424
01:20:07,340 --> 01:20:15,420
Keep it to monetary.

1425
01:20:15,420 --> 01:20:17,420
Do you have any dog expenses this year?

1426
01:20:17,420 --> 01:20:20,409
We budgeted it.

1427
01:20:20,409 --> 01:20:22,409
Wow.

1428
01:20:22,409 --> 01:20:24,409
We budgeted $2,000. We didn't

1429
01:20:24,409 --> 01:20:26,979
expend any.

1430
01:20:26,979 --> 01:20:28,979
Most recently he did.

1431
01:20:28,979 --> 01:20:30,979
He had to watch one for a few hours.

1432
01:20:30,979 --> 01:20:32,979
Wasn't there a bite?

1433
01:20:32,979 --> 01:20:35,590
I think

1434
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:37,590
if the people are willing

1435
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:39,590
you can have him quarantined

1436
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:41,590
at their home if they're cooperative.

1437
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:43,590
Then it wouldn't cost

1438
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:47,029
as many.

1439
01:20:47,029 --> 01:20:49,029
But if he finds a stray dog that he's got to

1440
01:20:49,029 --> 01:20:51,029
take in and feed every day

1441
01:20:51,029 --> 01:20:53,319
and then there's costs.

1442
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:55,319
We've had vet costs. We've had all kinds

1443
01:20:55,319 --> 01:20:57,319
of bad things.

1444
01:20:57,319 --> 01:20:59,319
Let's keep the $2,000

1445
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:01,319
and the $1,000 and maybe

1446
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:03,539
Luke will give us some

1447
01:21:03,539 --> 01:21:05,930
feedback.

1448
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:12,470
Election and town meeting.

1449
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:14,470
Ballot clerks. We only have one

1450
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:16,470
election this year.

1451
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:18,979
Did we drop that

1452
01:21:18,979 --> 01:21:20,979
down to like $3.25?

1453
01:21:20,979 --> 01:21:23,270
$3.25, yeah.

1454
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:27,989
$3.25.

1455
01:21:27,989 --> 01:21:31,079
Moderator.

1456
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:34,010
I know Paul doesn't want to do it anymore

1457
01:21:34,010 --> 01:21:36,010
but I think he's still going to do this

1458
01:21:36,010 --> 01:21:38,010
last term of the year.

1459
01:21:38,010 --> 01:21:40,010
You have to pay him right.

1460
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:42,010
Or maybe he doesn't take his salary

1461
01:21:42,010 --> 01:21:44,460
because he didn't.

1462
01:21:44,460 --> 01:21:46,619
He did it.

1463
01:21:46,619 --> 01:21:48,619
I think we've got a budget for it.

1464
01:21:48,619 --> 01:21:50,619
Okay.

1465
01:21:50,619 --> 01:21:53,510
The law enforcement

1466
01:21:53,510 --> 01:21:56,279
elections.

1467
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:58,279
I think that that is going to be

1468
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:00,279
$600.

1469
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:02,789
So we're going to be over.

1470
01:22:02,789 --> 01:22:04,789
And I don't know if you want to have that included

1471
01:22:04,789 --> 01:22:06,789
because it's really a

1472
01:22:06,789 --> 01:22:08,819
2024 expense but

1473
01:22:08,819 --> 01:22:10,819
I had to put it on the credit card

1474
01:22:10,819 --> 01:22:12,819
and the credit card bill isn't going to be

1475
01:22:12,819 --> 01:22:14,819
paid until January.

1476
01:22:14,819 --> 01:22:17,560
So I don't know how you'd like

1477
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,560
to show that.

1478
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,560
So it's going to show up next year

1479
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,819
and we can't count it next year.

1480
01:22:23,819 --> 01:22:25,819
I think we've got to keep it

1481
01:22:25,819 --> 01:22:27,819
until next year.

1482
01:22:27,819 --> 01:22:29,819
I don't think we can put it in this

1483
01:22:29,819 --> 01:22:31,819
because we're running these

1484
01:22:31,819 --> 01:22:33,819
figures off your computer

1485
01:22:33,819 --> 01:22:35,819
which is done for 2024.

1486
01:22:35,819 --> 01:22:37,819
Like I know it's paid

1487
01:22:37,819 --> 01:22:39,819
but

1488
01:22:39,819 --> 01:22:42,069
you're right.

1489
01:22:42,069 --> 01:22:44,069
The town has it paid for officially

1490
01:22:44,069 --> 01:22:46,069
but it will be $600

1491
01:22:46,069 --> 01:22:48,069
when that happens.

1492
01:22:48,069 --> 01:22:50,359
So we are going to have one election next year.

1493
01:22:50,359 --> 01:22:52,359
They've been starting to

1494
01:22:52,359 --> 01:22:54,359
cancel school

1495
01:22:54,359 --> 01:22:56,739
for the March election.

1496
01:22:56,739 --> 01:22:59,579
Let's keep it there

1497
01:22:59,579 --> 01:23:01,579
just in case they don't

1498
01:23:01,579 --> 01:23:03,579
cancel them.

1499
01:23:03,579 --> 01:23:06,090
Do you want to do $500

1500
01:23:06,090 --> 01:23:08,090
or do you want to do $600?

1501
01:23:08,090 --> 01:23:10,180
I'm going to go $600.

1502
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:19,539
Legal notice, zero.

1503
01:23:19,539 --> 01:23:22,180
Ballots.

1504
01:23:22,180 --> 01:23:24,180
Keep $100.

1505
01:23:24,180 --> 01:23:26,409
Election expenses

1506
01:23:26,409 --> 01:23:28,600
and supplies.

1507
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,600
That's for three.

1508
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,600
I won't leave that much.

1509
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,359
I was thinking

1510
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:39,060
you could probably do

1511
01:23:39,060 --> 01:23:41,060
like $75 for ballots

1512
01:23:41,060 --> 01:23:43,770
and even $75

1513
01:23:43,770 --> 01:23:45,770
for election supplies

1514
01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:47,770
and $50 for ballots.

1515
01:23:47,770 --> 01:23:51,399
So I won't have three.

1516
01:23:51,399 --> 01:23:53,399
Ballots a year before are $22.

1517
01:23:53,399 --> 01:23:55,399
Let's go $50

1518
01:23:55,399 --> 01:23:57,399
and $50 for ballots

1519
01:23:57,399 --> 01:23:59,399
and maybe $75 for election expenses.

1520
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:06,460
What did you say for ballots?

1521
01:24:06,460 --> 01:24:08,460
$75?

1522
01:24:08,460 --> 01:24:10,520
I mean there was an awful lot

1523
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,520
of postage and everything.

1524
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,520
There's a whole collection

1525
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,520
that we just aren't going to have.

1526
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,579
Emergency management.

1527
01:24:19,579 --> 01:24:21,579
The only thing we can put in

1528
01:24:21,579 --> 01:24:27,100
is salary right now.

1529
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:29,449
Employee benefits.

1530
01:24:29,449 --> 01:24:31,449
You'll fill all that.

1531
01:24:31,449 --> 01:24:33,449
Or you might have some.

1532
01:24:33,449 --> 01:24:35,800
I don't know if you have any.

1533
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,800
Health insurance, zero.

1534
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,800
I did not go through all of these.

1535
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,800
The only one I have

1536
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,800
is the last one,

1537
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,800
the unemployment.

1538
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,439
$114.

1539
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,270
Unemployment compensation, yeah.

1540
01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:53,270
$124.

1541
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:55,270
So the other ones, Laura,

1542
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:57,270
you'll fill in when you finish

1543
01:24:57,270 --> 01:24:59,300
all 20, 24.

1544
01:24:59,300 --> 01:25:01,300
I got it half done,

1545
01:25:01,300 --> 01:25:03,300
but I wanted to question you

1546
01:25:03,300 --> 01:25:05,300
on that last one and I didn't want

1547
01:25:05,300 --> 01:25:07,300
to go through all the motions

1548
01:25:07,300 --> 01:25:10,739
so I'll have to redo it.

1549
01:25:10,739 --> 01:25:13,000
Energy coordinator salary $25

1550
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,000
and expenses are zero.

1551
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:20,199
We don't have that budget yet.

1552
01:25:20,199 --> 01:25:22,199
I'm just gas there, yeah.

1553
01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:24,199
Yeah, that hurts.

1554
01:25:24,199 --> 01:25:26,199
Fire truck replacement,

1555
01:25:26,199 --> 01:25:29,539
$157.

1556
01:25:29,539 --> 01:25:31,539
That is from their account,

1557
01:25:31,539 --> 01:25:33,539
but Laurie has to show it

1558
01:25:33,539 --> 01:25:36,859
somewhere in there.

1559
01:25:36,859 --> 01:25:38,859
I think going forward,

1560
01:25:38,859 --> 01:25:40,859
and I still have not gotten

1561
01:25:40,859 --> 01:25:42,859
anything from the bank

1562
01:25:42,859 --> 01:25:44,859
on all the loan papers that were signed.

1563
01:25:44,859 --> 01:25:46,859
She said she'd get it to you

1564
01:25:46,859 --> 01:25:48,859
right away.

1565
01:25:48,859 --> 01:25:50,859
So I don't have a monthly payment

1566
01:25:50,859 --> 01:25:53,020
for that fire truck.

1567
01:25:53,020 --> 01:25:55,020
Maybe just give her a call and say

1568
01:25:55,020 --> 01:25:57,430
wait a minute now.

1569
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:59,430
The fire department appropriation,

1570
01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:01,689
that $61,425,

1571
01:26:01,689 --> 01:26:03,689
that's their budget.

1572
01:26:03,689 --> 01:26:06,579
They'll give us that.

1573
01:26:06,579 --> 01:26:08,579
And the $50,000

1574
01:26:08,579 --> 01:26:10,579
for the fire truck replacement,

1575
01:26:10,579 --> 01:26:14,279
that should be a zero.

1576
01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:16,279
How many years did we say

1577
01:26:16,279 --> 01:26:18,890
we would do it?

1578
01:26:18,890 --> 01:26:21,939
That's the kicker.

1579
01:26:21,939 --> 01:26:24,329
Can we un-warrant it?

1580
01:26:24,329 --> 01:26:26,899
I don't know.

1581
01:26:26,899 --> 01:26:28,899
There was a warrant out

1582
01:26:28,899 --> 01:26:31,350
three, four years ago.

1583
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:33,350
We said we were going to budget

1584
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:35,350
$50,000 a year for five years

1585
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:37,350
and went to town meeting.

1586
01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:40,630
They said yes.

1587
01:26:40,630 --> 01:26:42,630
So we only budgeted three years.

1588
01:26:42,630 --> 01:26:44,630
There's two more years left on it.

1589
01:26:44,630 --> 01:26:46,630
Oh, and the other thing is

1590
01:26:46,630 --> 01:26:49,140
it wasn't a legal article too.

1591
01:26:49,140 --> 01:26:51,430
Because you can't reserve it

1592
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:53,430
for somebody.

1593
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:55,430
You've got to do it every year,

1594
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:57,430
every year.

1595
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:59,430
So this should be zero then

1596
01:26:59,430 --> 01:27:01,430
unless they come up with a more

1597
01:27:01,430 --> 01:27:03,430
article going forward.

1598
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:05,430
But why would they?

1599
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:07,430
Because the fire truck replacement fund,

1600
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:09,430
we've got to pay off this loan

1601
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:11,430
for $60,000 a year.

1602
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:15,000
$67,000.

1603
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,649
Whatever.

1604
01:27:20,649 --> 01:27:22,810
So what happened is

1605
01:27:22,810 --> 01:27:24,810
if what the fire truck department,

1606
01:27:24,810 --> 01:27:26,810
fire trucks,

1607
01:27:26,810 --> 01:27:29,130
is a loan for five years

1608
01:27:29,130 --> 01:27:31,130
and we approve the loan for five years,

1609
01:27:31,130 --> 01:27:33,130
we sign the papers and everything,

1610
01:27:33,130 --> 01:27:35,130
that's okay to budget five years out.

1611
01:27:35,130 --> 01:27:37,130
But just say,

1612
01:27:37,130 --> 01:27:39,130
I'm going to pay $50,000 a year

1613
01:27:39,130 --> 01:27:41,699
for a truck.

1614
01:27:41,699 --> 01:27:44,119
The townspeople are voting yes this year.

1615
01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:46,119
But then the next year

1616
01:27:46,119 --> 01:27:48,119
maybe a different group of townspeople

1617
01:27:48,119 --> 01:27:50,119
said no, we don't want to do this.

1618
01:27:50,119 --> 01:27:52,119
There's no signed contract.

1619
01:27:52,119 --> 01:27:54,119
There's no nothing in writing.

1620
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:56,119
So we should not have accepted that article

1621
01:27:56,119 --> 01:27:58,380
that was presented that way.

1622
01:27:58,380 --> 01:28:00,380
It should have been voted every year.

1623
01:28:00,380 --> 01:28:02,380
But they wanted to do it

1624
01:28:02,380 --> 01:28:04,380
because it was easier

1625
01:28:04,380 --> 01:28:06,380
to do five years

1626
01:28:06,380 --> 01:28:08,380
and push it all into one.

1627
01:28:08,380 --> 01:28:10,380
They had said it's, you know,

1628
01:28:10,380 --> 01:28:13,210
for what they wanted to do.

1629
01:28:13,210 --> 01:28:15,210
They didn't just let it go.

1630
01:28:15,210 --> 01:28:17,210
For the fire truck replacement, zero.

1631
01:28:17,210 --> 01:28:20,359
Appropriation will wait for them.

1632
01:28:20,359 --> 01:28:22,359
And the bank payment.

1633
01:28:22,359 --> 01:28:24,420
Yep.

1634
01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:27,029
It's about $60,000 I think.

1635
01:28:27,029 --> 01:28:33,420
I don't have that paperwork with me.

1636
01:28:33,420 --> 01:28:35,420
Forest fire warden, $50,000.

1637
01:28:35,420 --> 01:28:37,420
And expenses, zero.

1638
01:28:37,420 --> 01:28:39,579
Okay.

1639
01:28:39,579 --> 01:28:41,579
Tax anticipation loan.

1640
01:28:41,579 --> 01:28:43,800
Lori's got to borrow money.

1641
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,800
So here's the fun part

1642
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,800
of guessing what the interest rate

1643
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:52,810
will be.

1644
01:28:52,810 --> 01:28:55,380
We're at it.

1645
01:28:55,380 --> 01:28:57,380
Sometimes we're not.

1646
01:28:57,380 --> 01:28:59,380
We said $70,000 last year

1647
01:28:59,380 --> 01:29:01,380
and we paid $59,000 which was good.

1648
01:29:01,380 --> 01:29:06,710
But who knows.

1649
01:29:06,710 --> 01:29:08,710
So if interest rates on money go up

1650
01:29:08,710 --> 01:29:11,670
then interest rates on loans go up.

1651
01:29:11,670 --> 01:29:13,670
Then we paid $6,000 this year.

1652
01:29:13,670 --> 01:29:16,020
Will it be $6,500?

1653
01:29:16,020 --> 01:29:18,020
Let's put $7,000

1654
01:29:18,020 --> 01:29:20,020
and we can discuss it again.

1655
01:29:20,020 --> 01:29:22,020
I'll do a question.

1656
01:29:22,020 --> 01:29:27,770
We've got to go through this again anyway.

1657
01:29:27,770 --> 01:29:30,789
If we have any questions.

1658
01:29:30,789 --> 01:29:32,789
Law enforcement, zero.

1659
01:29:32,789 --> 01:29:35,880
We don't have them anymore.

1660
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,140
I guess it was

1661
01:29:38,140 --> 01:29:40,140
going around in March.

1662
01:29:40,140 --> 01:29:42,140
Just say you won't in the future.

1663
01:29:42,140 --> 01:29:44,140
It might change your mind.

1664
01:29:44,140 --> 01:29:46,140
Yeah, just keep it zero.

1665
01:29:46,140 --> 01:29:48,140
Library, I do not have any

1666
01:29:48,140 --> 01:29:50,140
of their information yet.

1667
01:29:50,140 --> 01:29:53,159
We don't have anything

1668
01:29:53,159 --> 01:29:56,250
from the assessor,

1669
01:29:56,250 --> 01:29:58,250
Sally, Lori,

1670
01:29:58,250 --> 01:30:00,250
John,

1671
01:30:00,250 --> 01:30:02,250
and the other guy from Nimbrick.

1672
01:30:02,250 --> 01:30:04,250
We're going to work next week

1673
01:30:04,250 --> 01:30:06,250
and figure out how much they're going to do

1674
01:30:06,250 --> 01:30:08,250
how much the assessor clerk

1675
01:30:08,250 --> 01:30:12,390
is going to do.

1676
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:18,899
Planning and development.

1677
01:30:18,899 --> 01:30:21,859
The salary is $175.

1678
01:30:21,859 --> 01:30:23,899
Oh.

1679
01:30:23,899 --> 01:30:25,960
Oh.

1680
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,270
We've got more planning commissioners.

1681
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:31,270
We'll go back up.

1682
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:33,529
We came to assessor

1683
01:30:33,529 --> 01:30:35,850
clerk, assessor fee.

1684
01:30:35,850 --> 01:30:37,850
How about reappraisal,

1685
01:30:37,850 --> 01:30:39,850
are we going to put money in?

1686
01:30:39,850 --> 01:30:43,420
Oh.

1687
01:30:43,420 --> 01:30:45,420
Yeah, because if we've got to reappraise

1688
01:30:45,420 --> 01:30:47,420
in four to six years, $7,000

1689
01:30:47,420 --> 01:30:50,890
in the bucket.

1690
01:30:50,890 --> 01:30:52,890
What did it cost, like a million dollars

1691
01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:54,890
or something like that?

1692
01:30:54,890 --> 01:30:56,890
It was $87,000, $86,000.

1693
01:30:56,890 --> 01:30:59,340
But if we've got to pay

1694
01:30:59,340 --> 01:31:01,340
$86,000 every

1695
01:31:01,340 --> 01:31:03,340
six years or four or five years,

1696
01:31:03,340 --> 01:31:05,399
that's going to hurt.

1697
01:31:05,399 --> 01:31:07,779
And the state

1698
01:31:07,779 --> 01:31:09,779
doesn't give us a whole lot.

1699
01:31:09,779 --> 01:31:12,359
Can we put $10,000 in there?

1700
01:31:12,359 --> 01:31:14,649
So $86,000,

1701
01:31:14,649 --> 01:31:16,649
that might go up too.

1702
01:31:16,649 --> 01:31:19,449
Oh yeah.

1703
01:31:19,449 --> 01:31:21,989
Every six years.

1704
01:31:21,989 --> 01:31:23,989
Divided by six, what do you get?

1705
01:31:23,989 --> 01:31:26,630
$14,300 something.

1706
01:31:26,630 --> 01:31:28,819
$14,332.

1707
01:31:28,819 --> 01:31:30,819
Should we put $15,000 in there?

1708
01:31:30,819 --> 01:31:32,819
If you want the whole thing,

1709
01:31:32,819 --> 01:31:34,819
we bought at least that much.

1710
01:31:34,819 --> 01:31:36,819
If you just want to be close.

1711
01:31:36,819 --> 01:31:39,779
Well, wait a minute,

1712
01:31:39,779 --> 01:31:41,779
because we still have money in there.

1713
01:31:41,779 --> 01:31:43,779
Oh yeah, we did say,

1714
01:31:43,779 --> 01:31:50,069
let's leave it in there because

1715
01:31:50,069 --> 01:31:55,270
I don't know how much we have in there.

1716
01:31:55,270 --> 01:31:57,460
Do you want to do $12,000?

1717
01:31:57,460 --> 01:32:00,039
We don't have a lot,

1718
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:02,039
but I don't know how much we have.

1719
01:32:02,039 --> 01:32:05,029
$17,000.

1720
01:32:05,029 --> 01:32:07,060
If we are looking like we're getting

1721
01:32:07,060 --> 01:32:09,060
a good amount in there,

1722
01:32:09,060 --> 01:32:11,699
we can always drop it down.

1723
01:32:11,699 --> 01:32:15,210
So are we going $15,000?

1724
01:32:15,210 --> 01:32:17,210
It's better to have too much in there

1725
01:32:17,210 --> 01:32:19,659
than not enough.

1726
01:32:19,659 --> 01:32:21,659
Go $15,000?

1727
01:32:21,659 --> 01:32:23,659
It doesn't sound good,

1728
01:32:23,659 --> 01:32:25,659
but I can get something.

1729
01:32:25,659 --> 01:32:27,659
Well, if it's going to happen.

1730
01:32:27,659 --> 01:32:29,659
Yeah, pricey little business, I guess.

1731
01:32:29,659 --> 01:32:32,100
Lose your mileage.

1732
01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:35,960
Reappraisal is expensive.

1733
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:41,100
Reappraisal is expensive.

1734
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:43,100
Reappraisal expense should be zero

1735
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:45,100
because we're done paying for that reappraisal.

1736
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:50,170
Yes.

1737
01:32:50,170 --> 01:33:02,020
And abatements.

1738
01:33:02,020 --> 01:33:04,020
Because we had to pay.

1739
01:33:04,020 --> 01:33:08,359
Oh yeah,

1740
01:33:08,359 --> 01:33:10,359
we abated that guy.

1741
01:33:10,359 --> 01:33:12,359
We abated the guy if we were wrong

1742
01:33:12,359 --> 01:33:14,359
because the assessments were off,

1743
01:33:14,359 --> 01:33:16,359
so he paid a much higher amount

1744
01:33:16,359 --> 01:33:20,439
than what he should have.

1745
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,439
So let's go zero there

1746
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,439
because we don't want to be wrong anymore.

1747
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,520
We have to do it.

1748
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,520
We have to be fair.

1749
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,520
Did you hear that?

1750
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,220
Yeah, you guys were here then

1751
01:33:35,220 --> 01:33:40,520
when we had to abate that.

1752
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,520
It was on the wrong property or something.

1753
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,520
I remember hearing talk about it,

1754
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,520
but I don't know.

1755
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:53,989
Maybe you didn't sit in on the abatement.

1756
01:33:53,989 --> 01:33:55,989
So what do we have for a planning commission?

1757
01:33:55,989 --> 01:33:58,600
We have nine members now,

1758
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,600
so we need to set aside $225.

1759
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,619
Is that nine times 25?

1760
01:34:04,619 --> 01:34:06,619
Somebody catch.

1761
01:34:06,619 --> 01:34:10,180
Have to do it right.

1762
01:34:10,180 --> 01:34:12,180
Salary, septic officer, $25.

1763
01:34:12,180 --> 01:34:14,630
Yep.

1764
01:34:14,630 --> 01:34:16,630
Preservation, zero.

1765
01:34:16,630 --> 01:34:19,720
Their education, 100.

1766
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,300
Well, I don't know.

1767
01:34:22,300 --> 01:34:24,300
Are they going to submit a budget to you?

1768
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:26,300
They never do.

1769
01:34:26,300 --> 01:34:28,300
Bennington County Regional dues?

1770
01:34:28,300 --> 01:34:30,300
$4,000.

1771
01:34:30,300 --> 01:34:32,970
Planning commission expenses?

1772
01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:36,380
$200.

1773
01:34:36,380 --> 01:34:38,729
$200, okay.

1774
01:34:38,729 --> 01:34:40,729
Unless you want to charge it.

1775
01:34:40,729 --> 01:34:42,729
No, they didn't spend it.

1776
01:34:42,729 --> 01:34:44,729
Grant expense planning commission.

1777
01:34:44,729 --> 01:34:46,729
Oh.

1778
01:34:46,729 --> 01:34:49,939
That's because of the grant.

1779
01:34:49,939 --> 01:34:52,170
We pulled the carrot out.

1780
01:34:52,170 --> 01:34:54,359
And we didn't do it.

1781
01:34:54,359 --> 01:34:56,840
And so they billed us.

1782
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,029
That's exactly what it is.

1783
01:34:59,029 --> 01:35:08,899
Zero.

1784
01:35:08,899 --> 01:35:11,060
Select board chair salary?

1785
01:35:11,060 --> 01:35:13,319
$1,000.

1786
01:35:13,319 --> 01:35:15,539
And we got paid $870.

1787
01:35:15,539 --> 01:35:19,399
Keep it $1,000?

1788
01:35:19,399 --> 01:35:23,579
Sure.

1789
01:35:23,579 --> 01:35:25,579
Select board salary members?

1790
01:35:25,579 --> 01:35:27,579
Keep it $45.

1791
01:35:27,579 --> 01:35:29,579
Because I think we figured it close,

1792
01:35:29,579 --> 01:35:31,579
but not everybody comes to every meeting.

1793
01:35:31,579 --> 01:35:33,579
If everyone came to every meeting,

1794
01:35:33,579 --> 01:35:36,180
yeah.

1795
01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:38,890
Administrative.

1796
01:35:38,890 --> 01:35:41,909
Administrative.

1797
01:35:41,909 --> 01:35:44,939
That is Casey, right?

1798
01:35:44,939 --> 01:35:46,939
That's me.

1799
01:35:46,939 --> 01:35:49,319
Oh, yeah.

1800
01:35:49,319 --> 01:35:59,859
Yeah.

1801
01:35:59,859 --> 01:36:01,859
I started that.

1802
01:36:01,859 --> 01:36:03,859
I started that on the sheet.

1803
01:36:03,859 --> 01:36:05,859
It might come to $62

1804
01:36:05,859 --> 01:36:07,859
if all the hours stay the same,

1805
01:36:07,859 --> 01:36:09,859
but it's hard to guess

1806
01:36:09,859 --> 01:36:12,340
because the hours vary.

1807
01:36:12,340 --> 01:36:14,340
Some years I spend more time than others.

1808
01:36:14,340 --> 01:36:16,340
Let's just put a question there to you.

1809
01:36:16,340 --> 01:36:19,109
Unless you don't give us one.

1810
01:36:19,109 --> 01:36:21,399
Liability insurance.

1811
01:36:21,399 --> 01:36:23,399
Usually it goes up every year.

1812
01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:25,399
Usually it goes up every year.

1813
01:36:25,399 --> 01:36:27,399
I've got two different numbers in here,

1814
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:29,399
so I'd have to sit down and figure it out.

1815
01:36:29,399 --> 01:36:31,399
So let's skip that for now.

1816
01:36:31,399 --> 01:36:33,500
Yep.

1817
01:36:33,500 --> 01:36:35,779
Legal expenses?

1818
01:36:35,779 --> 01:36:37,779
We definitely will incur expenses

1819
01:36:37,779 --> 01:36:39,779
in the year coming up.

1820
01:36:39,779 --> 01:36:41,779
We better put maybe $2,000

1821
01:36:41,779 --> 01:36:46,340
because we got that thing coming.

1822
01:36:46,340 --> 01:36:48,340
Yeah, is that going to be enough?

1823
01:36:48,340 --> 01:36:54,699
Way of going.

1824
01:36:54,699 --> 01:36:56,699
I think $5,000.

1825
01:36:56,699 --> 01:37:02,090
Okay.

1826
01:37:02,090 --> 01:37:04,090
Select an education fund

1827
01:37:04,090 --> 01:37:06,090
when we take courses

1828
01:37:06,090 --> 01:37:08,310
or online stuff.

1829
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:10,310
They seem to be cheaper now

1830
01:37:10,310 --> 01:37:12,310
that they're not in person.

1831
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:14,500
They're not paying for lunches.

1832
01:37:14,500 --> 01:37:19,289
Keep it $200.

1833
01:37:19,289 --> 01:37:21,289
Select an office supplies.

1834
01:37:21,289 --> 01:37:23,380
$100 is pretty good.

1835
01:37:23,380 --> 01:37:25,380
Can we back up?

1836
01:37:25,380 --> 01:37:27,380
Oh, we have to miss it.

1837
01:37:27,380 --> 01:37:29,380
$2,352.

1838
01:37:29,380 --> 01:37:31,380
$2,352.

1839
01:37:31,380 --> 01:37:37,220
$2,352.

1840
01:37:37,220 --> 01:37:43,220
Select board expenses.

1841
01:37:43,220 --> 01:37:45,220
You use all her stuff.

1842
01:37:45,220 --> 01:37:47,220
Well, she charges them.

1843
01:37:47,220 --> 01:37:49,220
She reads for the recorder.

1844
01:37:49,220 --> 01:37:51,220
She charges us out.

1845
01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:53,220
I charge you for postage

1846
01:37:53,220 --> 01:37:57,079
and I charge you for envelopes

1847
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:59,079
occasionally.

1848
01:37:59,079 --> 01:38:02,170
We're close to $100.

1849
01:38:02,170 --> 01:38:13,159
We charge you for paper now and then.

1850
01:38:13,159 --> 01:38:15,159
Website and email maintenance.

1851
01:38:15,159 --> 01:38:17,479
We get $700.

1852
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,060
Or are we going up higher?

1853
01:38:20,060 --> 01:38:22,060
It doesn't have to be a bill yet.

1854
01:38:22,060 --> 01:38:24,060
We'll go ahead and see.

1855
01:38:24,060 --> 01:38:26,060
If we prepay, he usually gives us a discount.

1856
01:38:26,060 --> 01:38:38,420
So we'll keep a question

1857
01:38:38,420 --> 01:38:40,420
there on the $700.

1858
01:38:40,420 --> 01:38:43,100
Select and tax

1859
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:45,100
sale purchases.

1860
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:47,100
Oh, that's what I was thinking about

1861
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:49,350
earlier.

1862
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:51,350
We had to buy the properties

1863
01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:53,350
but then we got reimbursed for them.

1864
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:56,090
So one of these is

1865
01:38:56,090 --> 01:38:58,090
the tax that we have to pay

1866
01:38:58,090 --> 01:39:00,090
and one of these

1867
01:39:00,090 --> 01:39:02,090
is what we have to purchase.

1868
01:39:02,090 --> 01:39:06,489
Because we

1869
01:39:06,489 --> 01:39:08,489
end up having to pay the tax bill a year later.

1870
01:39:08,489 --> 01:39:10,489
That's right.

1871
01:39:10,489 --> 01:39:12,489
But that is one that we normally

1872
01:39:12,489 --> 01:39:14,489
know about because we know that we

1873
01:39:14,489 --> 01:39:16,489
have purchased the property.

1874
01:39:16,489 --> 01:39:18,739
This past year

1875
01:39:18,739 --> 01:39:20,739
all of the properties sold

1876
01:39:20,739 --> 01:39:22,739
and the town wasn't stuck with any of them.

1877
01:39:22,739 --> 01:39:25,579
So we don't have to worry about taxes.

1878
01:39:25,579 --> 01:39:29,050
But this coming spring

1879
01:39:29,050 --> 01:39:31,050
is Sally planning on doing

1880
01:39:31,050 --> 01:39:34,869
another tax sale

1881
01:39:34,869 --> 01:39:36,869
that the town might end up having to

1882
01:39:36,869 --> 01:39:38,869
acquire property?

1883
01:39:38,869 --> 01:39:40,869
I don't know how many

1884
01:39:40,869 --> 01:39:42,869
properties are back delinquent.

1885
01:39:42,869 --> 01:39:50,789
We'll have to question that.

1886
01:39:50,789 --> 01:39:52,789
And we don't need anything for the

1887
01:39:52,789 --> 01:39:54,789
community center purchase acquisition

1888
01:39:54,789 --> 01:39:56,789
because that was the church.

1889
01:39:56,789 --> 01:39:58,789
It was zero.

1890
01:39:58,789 --> 01:40:01,180
It cost us $1,000 but

1891
01:40:01,180 --> 01:40:03,180
that was for the inspection report.

1892
01:40:03,180 --> 01:40:05,340
But we never

1893
01:40:05,340 --> 01:40:07,340
offered to help pay for that report.

1894
01:40:07,340 --> 01:40:10,140
Well, it's

1895
01:40:10,140 --> 01:40:12,140
public so that's alright.

1896
01:40:18,020 --> 01:40:20,020
Salary for

1897
01:40:20,020 --> 01:40:23,909
if Dave and Mike or somebody

1898
01:40:23,909 --> 01:40:25,909
else works at the recycling center

1899
01:40:25,909 --> 01:40:29,060
to still keep

1900
01:40:29,060 --> 01:40:31,060
maybe just $2,000 then?

1901
01:40:31,060 --> 01:40:33,060
So the first one is

1902
01:40:33,060 --> 01:40:35,060
I think Carol

1903
01:40:35,060 --> 01:40:37,060
when she picks up the trash here

1904
01:40:37,060 --> 01:40:39,220
at the school.

1905
01:40:39,220 --> 01:40:41,220
And the second one is Carol and Buzz

1906
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:43,220
as monitors at the recycling center.

1907
01:40:43,220 --> 01:40:45,220
And I do have line items

1908
01:40:45,220 --> 01:40:47,220
for Dave and Mike but I don't

1909
01:40:47,220 --> 01:40:49,220
include them because they've been zeroed out.

1910
01:40:49,220 --> 01:40:51,220
Those are going to go off

1911
01:40:51,220 --> 01:40:53,220
if I'm not mistaken, right?

1912
01:40:53,220 --> 01:40:55,220
They are. And I should be able to calculate that

1913
01:40:55,220 --> 01:40:57,220
right to the time we look at

1914
01:40:57,220 --> 01:40:59,220
raises. So I will get that information

1915
01:40:59,220 --> 01:41:01,220
for you.

1916
01:41:01,220 --> 01:41:03,380
The BC

1917
01:41:03,380 --> 01:41:05,380
Bennington County Solid Waste

1918
01:41:05,380 --> 01:41:07,380
Alliance. I have that.

1919
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:09,579
I don't have that.

1920
01:41:09,579 --> 01:41:11,579
I haven't seen anything on that.

1921
01:41:11,579 --> 01:41:13,579
They gave it to

1922
01:41:13,579 --> 01:41:15,579
me in our

1923
01:41:15,579 --> 01:41:18,819
last meeting.

1924
01:41:18,819 --> 01:41:20,819
And it says $79.86.

1925
01:41:20,819 --> 01:41:23,460
So $8,000.

1926
01:41:23,460 --> 01:41:25,560
But!

1927
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:30,859
Another report.

1928
01:41:30,859 --> 01:41:32,859
I think it said $5,000.

1929
01:41:32,859 --> 01:41:34,859
So I better

1930
01:41:34,859 --> 01:41:36,859
check to make sure.

1931
01:41:36,859 --> 01:41:38,859
Well the bills are all over the place

1932
01:41:38,859 --> 01:41:40,859
too and I haven't

1933
01:41:40,859 --> 01:41:42,859
received any resolution.

1934
01:41:42,859 --> 01:41:44,859
I did get a response. They said they'd look into it.

1935
01:41:44,859 --> 01:41:47,180
I'll see what he put in there.

1936
01:41:47,180 --> 01:41:49,239
Unless he's figuring

1937
01:41:49,239 --> 01:41:52,229
Unless he's figuring

1938
01:41:52,229 --> 01:41:54,229
this would be $79

1939
01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:56,229
would be the total and not

1940
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:58,229
counting any rebates,

1941
01:41:58,229 --> 01:42:02,149
refunds. I'm sure it says

1942
01:42:02,149 --> 01:42:06,779
$5,000. I'll look and see.

1943
01:42:06,779 --> 01:42:08,779
Repair and maintenance at the recycling.

1944
01:42:08,779 --> 01:42:10,779
That would be Dave and see what he's

1945
01:42:10,779 --> 01:42:13,930
got. If he's figuring anything.

1946
01:42:13,930 --> 01:42:17,340
So John, see how much

1947
01:42:17,340 --> 01:42:19,340
it costs us for recycling? $47,000.

1948
01:42:19,340 --> 01:42:21,340
Yeah, that's crazy.

1949
01:42:21,340 --> 01:42:23,340
And we only take in $12,000.

1950
01:42:23,340 --> 01:42:25,340
Yep. So those are

1951
01:42:25,340 --> 01:42:27,340
the actual bills we pay

1952
01:42:27,340 --> 01:42:29,340
Castella to pick up our

1953
01:42:29,340 --> 01:42:31,340
trash and recycle from our

1954
01:42:31,340 --> 01:42:34,170
top post. Let's go $50,000.

1955
01:42:34,170 --> 01:42:38,699
Keep it $50,000. Recycling

1956
01:42:38,699 --> 01:42:40,859
electricity.

1957
01:42:40,859 --> 01:42:42,859
$450.

1958
01:42:42,859 --> 01:42:48,949
Is that a requirement

1959
01:42:48,949 --> 01:42:50,949
that we have at the recycling center

1960
01:42:50,949 --> 01:42:52,979
for the town?

1961
01:42:52,979 --> 01:42:54,979
Or could we just be like, hey, you guys

1962
01:42:54,979 --> 01:42:56,979
we're doing it to keep it off the streets.

1963
01:42:56,979 --> 01:43:00,550
Otherwise they're going to be

1964
01:43:00,550 --> 01:43:02,550
dumping it up West Road

1965
01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:04,619
and Planet Lake Road.

1966
01:43:04,619 --> 01:43:06,619
It's a service for our residents, but

1967
01:43:06,619 --> 01:43:08,619
you're right. It's costing

1968
01:43:08,619 --> 01:43:11,479
more than

1969
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,479
Well, if we all had to get the dumpster

1970
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,479
in our backyard, it'd be what?

1971
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,479
$75, $80 a month?

1972
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,479
Yeah, I'd pay $70 for

1973
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:23,210
a giant dumpster.

1974
01:43:23,210 --> 01:43:25,210
A month? $70 a month?

1975
01:43:25,210 --> 01:43:28,359
Yep. And just put it in a bag and throw it in there.

1976
01:43:28,359 --> 01:43:30,359
$800.

1977
01:43:30,359 --> 01:43:32,359
Whatever it is, it is.

1978
01:43:32,359 --> 01:43:34,359
So you don't have to do anything.

1979
01:43:34,359 --> 01:43:36,420
$70 a month.

1980
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:38,420
This is $95 a year.

1981
01:43:38,420 --> 01:43:41,130
Correct.

1982
01:43:41,130 --> 01:43:44,569
And if we did, we did talk

1983
01:43:44,569 --> 01:43:46,569
about one time having private pick up.

1984
01:43:46,569 --> 01:43:48,569
Everybody brings their trash out to the curb.

1985
01:43:48,569 --> 01:43:50,569
But then, what happens

1986
01:43:50,569 --> 01:43:52,569
when it's snowstorming, day and clouds, you don't get

1987
01:43:52,569 --> 01:43:54,789
your bucket in in time.

1988
01:43:54,789 --> 01:43:56,789
Yeah.

1989
01:43:56,789 --> 01:43:59,369
And then you guys up on the hill,

1990
01:43:59,369 --> 01:44:01,369
get your bucket out there, nobody makes it.

1991
01:44:01,369 --> 01:44:03,369
There are some things, like mattresses,

1992
01:44:03,369 --> 01:44:05,369
that's something you have to

1993
01:44:05,369 --> 01:44:08,460
pay to get rid of.

1994
01:44:08,460 --> 01:44:10,840
Yeah, I mean,

1995
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:12,840
I guess you could

1996
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,840
begin to increase fees every

1997
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:19,880
year, but

1998
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:21,880
The majority of people that are using it

1999
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:23,880
are the elderly people, right?

2000
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:25,880
Yeah.

2001
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:27,880
Even if people come with like a wall art bag or two,

2002
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,479
it's still trash.

2003
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,479
But still, you know, it all goes into the

2004
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,699
TAM and it's all got to be dumped.

2005
01:44:35,699 --> 01:44:37,699
It all goes to the same place at the end.

2006
01:44:37,699 --> 01:44:40,279
That was the point.

2007
01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:42,279
Where does this go after Casella takes it?

2008
01:44:42,279 --> 01:44:44,279
It goes to Palo, right?

2009
01:44:44,279 --> 01:44:46,279
Does it still go to Palo?

2010
01:44:46,279 --> 01:44:48,279
I don't know.

2011
01:44:48,279 --> 01:44:50,279
Yeah, I think they have, is it TAM or Casella,

2012
01:44:50,279 --> 01:44:52,279
or wherever they are.

2013
01:44:52,279 --> 01:44:54,859
They have Sweet TAM, but TAM sold out to Casella.

2014
01:44:54,859 --> 01:44:57,689
Do they burn it over there?

2015
01:44:57,689 --> 01:44:59,689
No, I think they

2016
01:44:59,689 --> 01:45:01,689
it goes out of state eventually.

2017
01:45:01,689 --> 01:45:03,689
So yeah.

2018
01:45:03,689 --> 01:45:05,689
So we're trying to follow rules and keep it in state,

2019
01:45:05,689 --> 01:45:07,689
and then it ends up going

2020
01:45:07,689 --> 01:45:09,689
This is what happened

2021
01:45:09,689 --> 01:45:11,689
This is what happened when we used to

2022
01:45:11,689 --> 01:45:13,689
have somebody

2023
01:45:13,689 --> 01:45:15,819
took it, the public

2024
01:45:15,819 --> 01:45:17,819
used to take it, it's still in the state,

2025
01:45:17,819 --> 01:45:19,819
so you can't take it out of state.

2026
01:45:19,819 --> 01:45:21,819
Right, the public was taking it to that big incinerator

2027
01:45:21,819 --> 01:45:23,819
there by, what is it, Wendy's?

2028
01:45:23,819 --> 01:45:25,819
Yeah, yeah.

2029
01:45:25,819 --> 01:45:27,819
And it was just fine.

2030
01:45:27,819 --> 01:45:29,819
And then they said you're not allowed to take Vermont trash out of the house.

2031
01:45:29,819 --> 01:45:32,199
That's state law.

2032
01:45:32,199 --> 01:45:34,390
That's where like

2033
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:36,390
someone in North Adams has like

2034
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:38,390
second chance composting

2035
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:40,390
where he takes all the compostable

2036
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:42,390
stuff and he brings you back

2037
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:44,390
like good dirt.

2038
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:46,390
He'll make some arrangement.

2039
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:48,390
That's cool.

2040
01:45:48,390 --> 01:45:50,390
He's making dirt out of it.

2041
01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:52,390
I don't know what you would do with

2042
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:54,390
paint cans and stuff like that.

2043
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:56,390
Right.

2044
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:58,390
He must only do like food.

2045
01:45:58,390 --> 01:46:00,390
Yeah, just like leaves,

2046
01:46:00,390 --> 01:46:02,390
food items, trees.

2047
01:46:02,390 --> 01:46:04,390
I think he's charging $10 a tree.

2048
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:13,210
There's money in trash, apparently.

2049
01:46:13,210 --> 01:46:17,319
Yeah.

2050
01:46:17,319 --> 01:46:19,319
Bennington County Taxes, $9,000

2051
01:46:19,319 --> 01:46:21,319
you pay $99? Come on.

2052
01:46:21,319 --> 01:46:23,319
That's for, let's say, the judges

2053
01:46:23,319 --> 01:46:25,319
and...

2054
01:46:25,319 --> 01:46:27,319
Yeah, I guess we've got to up that to at least $10.

2055
01:46:27,319 --> 01:46:35,180
...

2056
01:46:35,180 --> 01:46:37,270
...

2057
01:46:37,270 --> 01:46:39,270
...

2058
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:41,270
...

2059
01:46:41,270 --> 01:46:43,270
...

2060
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:48,250
Do you have any figures now that we should

2061
01:46:48,250 --> 01:46:50,250
plug in or you're good?

2062
01:46:50,250 --> 01:46:52,250
No, I don't.

2063
01:46:52,250 --> 01:46:54,250
I planned on it, but

2064
01:46:54,250 --> 01:46:56,250
on my vacation I was sick, so I didn't

2065
01:46:56,250 --> 01:46:58,569
do my work.

2066
01:46:58,569 --> 01:47:00,569
Okay, town office salaries,

2067
01:47:00,569 --> 01:47:02,569
we could keep those all the same

2068
01:47:02,569 --> 01:47:04,569
as what we budgeted.

2069
01:47:04,569 --> 01:47:11,050
Tree warden,

2070
01:47:11,050 --> 01:47:13,050
library trustee, justice of the peace,

2071
01:47:13,050 --> 01:47:15,050
keep them all the same then.

2072
01:47:15,050 --> 01:47:31,930
Keep everything

2073
01:47:31,930 --> 01:47:33,930
the same.

2074
01:47:33,930 --> 01:47:35,930
What's with the ZVA expenses?

2075
01:47:35,930 --> 01:47:38,409
Oh, that's our

2076
01:47:38,409 --> 01:47:40,409
side of locations.

2077
01:47:40,409 --> 01:47:44,039
Yeah, we don't know what we're...

2078
01:47:44,039 --> 01:47:51,899
Oh, mowing.

2079
01:47:51,899 --> 01:47:56,619
It wasn't bad.

2080
01:47:56,619 --> 01:47:58,619
Oh, we haven't talked about mowing.

2081
01:47:58,619 --> 01:48:11,020
I mean, do we know

2082
01:48:11,020 --> 01:48:13,140
if, uh,

2083
01:48:13,140 --> 01:48:15,140
yard work by Dan?

2084
01:48:15,140 --> 01:48:17,140
I'll have to ask Mike if he's going to still do it

2085
01:48:17,140 --> 01:48:21,739
or retire. Town lighting.

2086
01:48:21,739 --> 01:48:23,739
You guys want to see your

2087
01:48:23,739 --> 01:48:25,739
lawn proposal at the next meeting

2088
01:48:25,739 --> 01:48:28,220
or do you want to

2089
01:48:28,220 --> 01:48:31,560
put that off?

2090
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,939
You won't have a bid for this anyway,

2091
01:48:33,939 --> 01:48:35,939
so we'll just have to guess.

2092
01:48:35,939 --> 01:48:39,930
I'd like it if you added more stuff

2093
01:48:39,930 --> 01:48:41,930
to the description.

2094
01:48:41,930 --> 01:48:43,989
Particularly, like,

2095
01:48:43,989 --> 01:48:45,989
where the sign was.

2096
01:48:45,989 --> 01:48:47,989
Those overgrown things

2097
01:48:47,989 --> 01:48:50,380
out there.

2098
01:48:50,380 --> 01:48:52,380
The widening sign, he could take care of that.

2099
01:48:52,380 --> 01:48:54,380
And the hedges in front of what used to be

2100
01:48:54,380 --> 01:48:56,380
like a first grade classroom.

2101
01:48:56,380 --> 01:48:58,380
They're so tall now, they're above

2102
01:48:58,380 --> 01:49:00,630
like the windows.

2103
01:49:00,630 --> 01:49:02,630
So, when you guys set out

2104
01:49:02,630 --> 01:49:04,630
your request, this is

2105
01:49:04,630 --> 01:49:06,630
what we want you to do,

2106
01:49:06,630 --> 01:49:08,630
we've increased it. I mean, we've had complaints

2107
01:49:08,630 --> 01:49:10,630
about the weeds coming up through the tracks

2108
01:49:10,630 --> 01:49:12,630
and asked him to stay on top of it.

2109
01:49:12,630 --> 01:49:14,630
You could add this.

2110
01:49:14,630 --> 01:49:16,630
Yeah, just add a little bit more work to the job description.

2111
01:49:16,630 --> 01:49:19,720
Send it to us

2112
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,779
or even give it to us.

2113
01:49:21,779 --> 01:49:23,779
It's kind of early yet.

2114
01:49:23,779 --> 01:49:25,779
Yeah, let's get through this

2115
01:49:25,779 --> 01:49:29,899
stuff first.

2116
01:49:29,899 --> 01:49:31,899
Yeah, I'd like to do something with those trees

2117
01:49:31,899 --> 01:49:33,899
outside of Casey's

2118
01:49:33,899 --> 01:49:36,090
window there.

2119
01:49:36,090 --> 01:49:38,090
It's covering up the sign

2120
01:49:38,090 --> 01:49:40,090
and they just look dead.

2121
01:49:40,090 --> 01:49:42,090
Well, they got damaged in the store

2122
01:49:42,090 --> 01:49:44,090
so I'm going to just take them out

2123
01:49:44,090 --> 01:49:46,250
and let them mow there.

2124
01:49:46,250 --> 01:49:48,250
And I've got to ask the school board,

2125
01:49:48,250 --> 01:49:50,250
are they going to do the windows this year?

2126
01:49:50,250 --> 01:49:52,250
They keep putting us off. Is this their building or our building?

2127
01:49:52,250 --> 01:50:05,640
Get home in time

2128
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,640
to grab it.

2129
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,079
That's good.

2130
01:50:11,079 --> 01:50:13,140
Town lighting.

2131
01:50:13,140 --> 01:50:15,140
46, 48, we better go

2132
01:50:15,140 --> 01:50:17,140
5000 for street lights.

2133
01:50:17,140 --> 01:50:21,989
Security monitor.

2134
01:50:21,989 --> 01:50:23,989
Are they going to bill us twice this year if they get caught up?

2135
01:50:23,989 --> 01:50:27,239
I don't know.

2136
01:50:27,239 --> 01:50:29,239
Let's still go 140 if they bill us twice.

2137
01:50:29,239 --> 01:50:31,239
You guys will know why.

2138
01:50:31,239 --> 01:50:33,239
What are the street lights that are

2139
01:50:33,239 --> 01:50:36,069
on the...

2140
01:50:36,069 --> 01:50:38,069
Which ones?

2141
01:50:38,069 --> 01:50:40,069
I can send you a list.

2142
01:50:40,069 --> 01:50:43,609
List of lights.

2143
01:50:43,609 --> 01:50:47,720
List of lights.

2144
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,720
I went around this year to check to make sure

2145
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:54,020
everything was on.

2146
01:50:54,020 --> 01:50:56,020
Is that one across my

2147
01:50:56,020 --> 01:50:58,020
where Rasheeka Road, is that on the list?

2148
01:50:58,020 --> 01:51:00,020
No.

2149
01:51:00,020 --> 01:51:02,020
I think that was France.

2150
01:51:02,020 --> 01:51:04,020
We have some private pay

2151
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:06,020
street lights.

2152
01:51:06,020 --> 01:51:08,020
If you head towards the property,

2153
01:51:08,020 --> 01:51:11,180
it's probably there.

2154
01:51:11,180 --> 01:51:13,180
I think that was because Frank always

2155
01:51:13,180 --> 01:51:18,340
paid for that.

2156
01:51:18,340 --> 01:51:20,340
I'll send you the list.

2157
01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:22,340
There's one on the corner where the horses are.

2158
01:51:22,340 --> 01:51:24,340
That treacherous corner there.

2159
01:51:24,340 --> 01:51:29,100
Red Cross,

2160
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:31,100
have they sent us anything yet?

2161
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:33,640
That's a warrant anyway.

2162
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,640
Yeah, these are warrants.

2163
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,060
A flag,

2164
01:51:38,060 --> 01:51:40,060
town flags, let's keep 800.

2165
01:51:40,060 --> 01:51:49,479
Can you tell us about

2166
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,989
the other people

2167
01:51:51,989 --> 01:51:53,989
requesting money

2168
01:51:53,989 --> 01:51:56,250
from our...

2169
01:51:56,250 --> 01:51:58,539
Right, the Red Cross,

2170
01:51:58,539 --> 01:52:00,539
the Brock,

2171
01:52:00,539 --> 01:52:02,539
the other two, Vermont Rural Fire Protection,

2172
01:52:02,539 --> 01:52:04,539
Southwest of Brock,

2173
01:52:04,539 --> 01:52:06,539
they normally greet up

2174
01:52:06,539 --> 01:52:08,699
or not.

2175
01:52:08,699 --> 01:52:10,699
At some point we did a social service agency

2176
01:52:10,699 --> 01:52:12,699
policy and said anybody that we

2177
01:52:12,699 --> 01:52:14,699
have paid will continue to

2178
01:52:14,699 --> 01:52:17,050
pay. Does somebody

2179
01:52:17,050 --> 01:52:19,050
do, or if you want to increase your

2180
01:52:19,050 --> 01:52:21,210
amount,

2181
01:52:21,210 --> 01:52:23,210
you have to do a petition

2182
01:52:23,210 --> 01:52:25,210
to get on a warrant.

2183
01:52:25,210 --> 01:52:27,210
And then once the voters approve it,

2184
01:52:27,210 --> 01:52:29,210
then it can go on every year.

2185
01:52:29,210 --> 01:52:31,210
Last year,

2186
01:52:31,210 --> 01:52:34,260
Greet Up Vermont

2187
01:52:34,260 --> 01:52:36,260
goofed up, I would say,

2188
01:52:36,260 --> 01:52:38,260
and did not submit a request for

2189
01:52:38,260 --> 01:52:40,810
their $50 warrant.

2190
01:52:40,810 --> 01:52:42,810
So they didn't get any money,

2191
01:52:42,810 --> 01:52:45,289
they weren't on the warrant.

2192
01:52:45,289 --> 01:52:47,289
I think what's happening was

2193
01:52:47,289 --> 01:52:49,289
she had some very active

2194
01:52:49,289 --> 01:52:51,289
Greet Up Day coordinators

2195
01:52:51,289 --> 01:52:53,289
who emailed back and forth

2196
01:52:53,289 --> 01:52:55,289
personally, and I think it just never

2197
01:52:55,289 --> 01:52:57,289
went to the town office and got lost

2198
01:52:57,289 --> 01:52:59,289
in the shuffle, but I don't know that for sure.

2199
01:52:59,289 --> 01:53:01,289
But they're going to try

2200
01:53:01,289 --> 01:53:03,420
to do a warrant,

2201
01:53:03,420 --> 01:53:05,420
a petition, so it can be on the warrant

2202
01:53:05,420 --> 01:53:07,420
for this coming year.

2203
01:53:07,420 --> 01:53:10,060
And I also have,

2204
01:53:10,060 --> 01:53:12,279
oh, which one was that now?

2205
01:53:12,279 --> 01:53:14,279
I want to say the Red Cross people.

2206
01:53:14,279 --> 01:53:16,279
Somebody asked for more money.

2207
01:53:16,279 --> 01:53:18,279
And so I emailed

2208
01:53:18,279 --> 01:53:20,279
them and said, no,

2209
01:53:20,279 --> 01:53:22,279
here's our policy.

2210
01:53:22,279 --> 01:53:24,659
It asked me to say about

2211
01:53:24,659 --> 01:53:26,659
where you need to do a petition.

2212
01:53:26,659 --> 01:53:28,659
So I don't know what response

2213
01:53:28,659 --> 01:53:30,659
I will get. I haven't heard anything back from them.

2214
01:53:30,659 --> 01:53:40,859
I think that was all we had.

2215
01:53:40,859 --> 01:53:42,979
Okay.

2216
01:53:42,979 --> 01:53:44,979
Good first try. We can't do Dave.

2217
01:53:44,979 --> 01:53:49,260
That's a lot.

2218
01:53:49,260 --> 01:53:51,260
We usually go through all of that

2219
01:53:51,260 --> 01:53:53,640
in one sitting, so.

2220
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,640
Well, we got to the meeting,

2221
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:57,640
we got to the meeting early tonight, too,

2222
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,640
so that was quick.

2223
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:05,060
It wasn't a whole lot.

2224
01:54:05,060 --> 01:54:07,060
So are we going to do this

2225
01:54:07,060 --> 01:54:09,189
again next Thursday?

2226
01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:11,189
At what time?

2227
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:13,189
Thursday?

2228
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:15,420
Oh, we're still at December.

2229
01:54:15,420 --> 01:54:17,640
Because you need this

2230
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,640
to

2231
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,640
serve around the year.

2232
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:23,930
Well, I'll do it that way.

2233
01:54:23,930 --> 01:54:26,500
Do we do it at

2234
01:54:26,500 --> 01:54:28,500
five or four?

2235
01:54:28,500 --> 01:54:30,500
Or how's that?

2236
01:54:30,500 --> 01:54:32,500
I can do it at

2237
01:54:32,500 --> 01:54:36,939
five or four.

2238
01:54:36,939 --> 01:54:38,939
And we can do it that way usually.

2239
01:54:38,939 --> 01:54:41,000
Yeah.

2240
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:43,260
Five?

2241
01:54:43,260 --> 01:54:45,260
Five.

2242
01:54:45,260 --> 01:54:47,260
I'm good for anything.

2243
01:54:47,260 --> 01:54:49,260
I'm good for anything.

2244
01:54:49,260 --> 01:54:51,260
I'd just like to get out of here earlier on

2245
01:54:51,260 --> 01:54:53,260
a non-schedule meeting day.

2246
01:54:53,260 --> 01:54:55,260
Okay.

2247
01:54:55,260 --> 01:55:00,229
So it's going to be four or five?

2248
01:55:00,229 --> 01:55:02,329
I'll check with these two guys.

2249
01:55:02,329 --> 01:55:04,329
I don't care either.

2250
01:55:04,329 --> 01:55:06,329
I guess it would be Kurt

2251
01:55:06,329 --> 01:55:08,329
if he can make next week

2252
01:55:08,329 --> 01:55:10,329
and we have four or five.

2253
01:55:10,329 --> 01:55:13,289
We'll shoot for five.

2254
01:55:13,289 --> 01:55:15,289
If they both say they can do four,

2255
01:55:15,289 --> 01:55:17,289
do you want to do four?

2256
01:55:17,289 --> 01:55:19,289
Yeah.

2257
01:55:19,289 --> 01:55:24,329
Anything else?

2258
01:55:24,329 --> 01:55:26,649
Or do I have a motion to adjourn?

2259
01:55:26,649 --> 01:55:28,710
Do you have a motion to adjourn?

2260
01:55:28,710 --> 01:55:30,710
Yeah.

2261
01:55:30,710 --> 01:55:32,710
Second? John?

2262
01:55:32,710 --> 01:55:34,710
All in favor?

2263
01:55:34,710 --> 01:55:36,710
Aye.

2264
01:55:36,710 --> 01:55:38,710
Doug, I appreciate you

2265
01:55:38,710 --> 01:55:40,710
doing that work on the ethics

2266
01:55:40,710 --> 01:55:42,970
and conflict experience.

2267
01:55:42,970 --> 01:55:45,100
No problem.

2268
01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:47,100
That's what we do.

2269
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:49,100
I belong to the

2270
01:55:49,100 --> 01:55:51,100
Berkshire Safety Association.