1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,759 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 2 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:31,440 I call the stand for the select board. If you have a matter to discuss, you will notice that all our meetings are recorded and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes. 3 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:43,439 Visitors are welcome and we allow five minutes of comment per visitor and 15 minutes for topic. Discussions will be held in civilized manner and respectful of others. 4 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:47,590 Select board members present are... 5 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:52,590 Mike Vidal, Nancy Pacheco, John Dunne 6 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:59,420 Will there be any adding of items or removing of items from tonight's agenda? 7 00:00:59,420 --> 00:01:02,420 We have correspondence. 8 00:01:02,420 --> 00:01:04,420 Will there be any adjustments to the agenda? 9 00:01:04,420 --> 00:01:06,420 Agenda such as changing the order of the items. 10 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:11,170 Hearing of visitors. 11 00:01:11,170 --> 00:01:15,310 Marta? 12 00:01:15,469 --> 00:01:17,469 Either way, go on Marta. 13 00:01:17,469 --> 00:01:25,980 I've been really heartened by the fact that, for instance, Bob Riggs has offered water to folks. 14 00:01:25,980 --> 00:01:35,980 I know it's raining right now, so it's like, oh, everything's going to be fine. However, there's, you know, drought situation going on and I hope it rains for 40 days and nights, maybe not that much. 15 00:01:35,980 --> 00:01:39,980 Anyway, the fact that he offered water and also when Carolyn... 16 00:01:39,980 --> 00:01:41,980 Bobowitz? 17 00:01:41,980 --> 00:01:44,239 Bobowitz? 18 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:51,239 Asked for people to help an elderly person with getting water carried to them. 19 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:53,239 There was, you know, a great response. 20 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:55,239 It was like, okay, enough already. 21 00:01:55,239 --> 00:02:06,239 But I'm wondering if maybe the conservation committee that I'm on or emergency management, we should organize something a little bit more accessible. 22 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,240 Because I've heard, you know, like, 23 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Dave McKay ran out of water. 24 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,240 He's up the mountain, but it's not even like, you know, it's a shallow well. 25 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,240 But, you know, people would get accessing water from the streams, which have been happening. 26 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,240 Or I'm thinking, the fire department. 27 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,240 So, I'm wondering if there's a... 28 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,240 I ran out of water twice since I've been up here. 29 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,240 And I've called the fire department both times. 30 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,240 And they both, both times. 31 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,240 Once was in January. It was in the middle of the winter. 32 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,240 My driveway was so bad that they couldn't get up the driveway. 33 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,240 So they... 34 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,240 I think it was Glenn. I don't think it was Paul. 35 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,240 About eight years. 36 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,240 They came up. 37 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,240 And another younger fellow with them parked at the bottom of my driveway. 38 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Ran the hose. 39 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,240 I offered to help. 40 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,240 They said, no, we got Mike. We're all set. 41 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,240 They went out and filled my well. 42 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,370 Donation. 43 00:02:54,370 --> 00:02:57,370 You know, I think they asked for a $50 donation. 44 00:02:57,370 --> 00:02:59,370 But if you're poor, you know, I'm sure that... 45 00:02:59,370 --> 00:03:02,370 You know, I would reach out to someone who would get help. 46 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:05,370 But the fire department will help out. 47 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:07,370 So, if people say, well, can I drink the water? 48 00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:08,560 No. 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,560 So, they won't. 50 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 They won't tell you you can drink the water. 51 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Put a little bit of bleach in it. 52 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,560 Run it. 53 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Let it sit for a day. 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Okay. 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,560 Hydrate it. 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Okay. 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,560 You know, I'm like that. 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,560 You know, I'm goofy. 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Oh, clearly. 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Yeah, they will. 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Yeah. 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,560 But they will help you. 63 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,560 Hair loss. 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Hair loss. 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Yeah. 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Hair loss. 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Yeah. 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:29,560 It actually just goes down every day. 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,560 But yeah, they will help you. 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,560 They're awesome. 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,560 They... 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Paul's great. 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,560 He responds. 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,560 All the guys will respond. 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Okay. 76 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 And what they did reaching out like that on Facebook was great, too. 77 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,560 That was amazing. 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Beth also said she's got a spring of overabundance. 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Exactly. 80 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,560 I think that whole mountain's got overabundance of water on that. 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Yeah. 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Yeah. 83 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,560 That's true. 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,560 And, you know, if people need help, like you said, people had... 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,560 When I saw it, they were like, yeah, we got to help people bring the water. 86 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Yes. 87 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,560 It was good. 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,560 It was really heartening. 89 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,560 So, it was a great testimony to our town helping out. 90 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Absolutely. 91 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Absolutely. 92 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Absolutely. 93 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,560 They're amazing. 94 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Yeah. 95 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Yeah. 96 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Yeah. 97 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Yeah. 98 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Yeah. 99 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Yeah. 100 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,560 Yeah. 101 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,560 Yeah. 102 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Yeah. 103 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Yeah. 104 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Yeah. 105 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,560 Yeah. 106 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Yeah. 107 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Yeah. 108 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,560 Yeah. 109 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,560 I think they were really человек-oriented. 110 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Yeah. 111 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Yeah. 112 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,560 They really, they really stood out, you know. 113 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Yeah. 114 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Yeah. 115 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,560 Yeah. 116 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Yeah. 117 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Yeah. 118 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Yeah. 119 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Yeah. 120 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Yeah. 121 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,560 Yeah. 122 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Yeah. 123 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,560 Right. 124 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Yeah. 125 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Yeah. 126 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Yeah. 127 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Yeah. 128 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Like I said. 129 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,560 Yeah. 130 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Yeah. 131 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,560 Yeah. 132 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Yeah. 133 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,540 Yeah. 134 00:04:37,540 --> 00:04:42,980 what they call draft water they draft it out they don't have high light hydrants they draft them 135 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:49,060 right right right you'll see hydrants but that just goes into the brook great yeah like that's 136 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:55,459 what we'll have down by the right okay road has one yeah okay good so they draft although the 137 00:04:55,459 --> 00:05:00,339 brook's pretty low but yeah that was my worry it was like what happens if the brook is up you know 138 00:05:00,339 --> 00:05:05,699 well they actually see these brooks and it's like yes yes they'll throw a portable dam in 139 00:05:05,699 --> 00:05:13,220 it's like a big fiber canvas that goes across they damp the water up in no time it's full and 140 00:05:13,220 --> 00:05:21,139 you had enough to draft out okay good they're pretty good at it great thank you pete so i just 141 00:05:21,139 --> 00:05:30,800 have a couple questions for the board um would you guys agree that nobody should hold a position 142 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,540 on any board in the town that stands to make a financial gain 143 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,160 would you say that 144 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:44,120 that's probably a conflict of interest financial gain from the town you mean being so if you're on 145 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:52,439 a board yeah but you're also um a paid employee would you think that holding both positions 146 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:57,480 with one possibly giving you a financial gain would be a conflict of interest 147 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,079 uh the state does have a guideline on the conflict of interest 148 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:07,120 i think we should look at that well because i know it's small towns they 149 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,519 are pretty lenient on conflict of interest because it's a small town a lot of times you 150 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:16,720 don't get a lot of volunteers so conflict of interest from the state the stanford vermont.net 151 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,399 that we have on our site says a person should not participate on any board in any matter where they 152 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:29,040 have a real or financial interest correct so if there's a if there's an issue up that would have 153 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:34,319 a impact on their financial issues they could still sit on a board correct but not like um 154 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:36,160 yeah like yeah 155 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:43,360 okay yeah john wants to mow the lawn yeah and he says well i'm going to accuse myself on the boat 156 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,160 okay so wait wait um i believe there's going to be a new conflict of interest this january 1st 157 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:57,519 yes yes but we can't really discuss that until that it may just trump ours like i know that we 158 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:04,240 can't be the treasurer we can't run for treasurer and be honest so my point is that you know that 159 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,519 there's possible seats that could hold a conflict of interest 160 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:17,279 yeah sure okay do you know how our delinquent tax collector is paid yes okay five percent of the 161 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:26,560 taxes collected the delinquent taxes collected yes perfect so we you guys budget for that every year 162 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:36,839 yes yes so you like for example you had i think in 2023 you had budgeted like three grand and then it 163 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:43,959 over that so you budgeted for the extra 1700 made it five thousand dollars in essence if you want to 164 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:56,839 call it a raise to cover what she's doing yeah okay do you think she should sit on a board where 165 00:07:56,839 --> 00:08:04,420 her decision could affect her pay i think we're getting that decision these are just a basic 166 00:08:04,420 --> 00:08:08,660 question do you think that she should sit on a board a question is not really a question if you 167 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:15,540 already know well no so like my point is the statement is is that you you believe you believe 168 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:23,730 that somebody heard the fact that she sits on two boards so she is directly paid based on people who 169 00:08:23,730 --> 00:08:32,019 don't pay their taxes but you budget for that so you are anticipating every year that there's 170 00:08:32,019 --> 00:08:36,580 i'm going to be the same okay and that always goes up since i've looked i only looked probably 171 00:08:36,580 --> 00:08:38,340 three years back and it's it's gone up 172 00:08:39,139 --> 00:08:47,669 so with that being said she drove around with the assessor and went because her other job title is 173 00:08:47,669 --> 00:08:53,460 what without she's an assessor clerk she has no right she does the finance or she does the 174 00:08:53,460 --> 00:09:00,100 clerical work for the assessor just clerical perfect no values okay but do you think that 175 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:06,820 that could be a conflict of interest because she's there stating and giving her opinion of 176 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:10,100 what these properties should be assessed at do you think 177 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:15,779 that that could be a conflict of interest i don't think he's taking well well she sat on the board 178 00:09:15,779 --> 00:09:23,620 and made it very clear about me personally that she had ideas of reasons why my property had to be 179 00:09:24,820 --> 00:09:31,559 valued at what it was valued at because she said there was upgrades her specific words okay 180 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,879 so she gave an opinion to the assessor which ultimately to me is a conflict of interest because 181 00:09:38,519 --> 00:09:40,120 she stands to gain 182 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:45,000 because at that point i'm already delinquent because i haven't paid my taxes because most 183 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,159 people don't pay their taxes when they go into they're trying to get them abated or they're 184 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:53,559 going to the board of civil authority they become delinquent and then because i'm not going to pay it 185 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,879 and have to wait for you giving me a check back so i'm just going to go and follow that suit which i 186 00:09:57,879 --> 00:10:04,440 did so how many abatements has she been a part of and then then from the abatement standpoint 187 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:10,200 so she collects the boy with taxes had a say in the assessment goes down to the abatement 188 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,080 has a say in that and then it goes all the way down into the board of civil authority so she has 189 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:23,519 a voice the entire way down which every decision could directly affect her pay do we think that 190 00:10:23,519 --> 00:10:30,879 that i mean that's to me too personal it's not personal this is public knowledge no this is a 191 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:35,600 process i agree with pete 100 i don't think the process okay i don't want to get let's say 192 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,799 it's too sticky the person holding a job's name is apps right yep so i don't think it's personal 193 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:47,279 um it's a position yeah it's a position i've said no names i just simply said i don't like the text 194 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:55,320 know who it is but i'm saying that to me names and personalities don't matter to me it doesn't 195 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:01,159 matter who the position is whether just whether or not it's complicated or not um and on the surface 196 00:11:02,279 --> 00:11:09,080 it sounds like it could be could be uh you know i'd look into the state rules see if that happens 197 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:16,309 feel like you know what you read with the state rules is if you know like i said if there was a 198 00:11:16,309 --> 00:11:23,190 time where one of us if it was a conflict i could see that but not all the time and but if this isn't 199 00:11:23,190 --> 00:11:28,950 all the time of that and all the time of that well she hasn't refused herself or anything yeah right 200 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:36,389 so i i don't believe that the conflict interest would be her as a clerk no oh and when she drove 201 00:11:36,389 --> 00:11:40,960 around uh i drove around with her accessibility she did um 202 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:47,200 that's just to get them to access to some places and show them uh one time i took my 203 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,690 truck because nobody could walk risky manager stuff like that um so i don't think that's 204 00:11:53,909 --> 00:11:59,350 but she gave an opinion because it happened to me personally that's that meaning we don't know what 205 00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:04,470 she said we know exactly what she said we don't know what they said she said to the person at this 206 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:11,350 site right you heard her in a meeting it's written down that she said it to him that she 207 00:12:11,669 --> 00:12:16,149 that there is upgrades to the property and kirk amari asked what are those upgrades and she said 208 00:12:16,149 --> 00:12:22,470 well he's got a well and he's got septic and he's got a driveway right so so never nevertheless 209 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:28,710 she had a say in it regardless if she said it it's just that process to me screams bad 210 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:35,429 and it looks bad for our town and to me personally we now have two people that have to have a runoff 211 00:12:35,429 --> 00:12:41,509 election okay for justice of the peace that we have to spend money on we have to take time to do 212 00:12:41,669 --> 00:12:48,870 it when one person can recuse themselves and save us that money in that position and who am i to say 213 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:54,629 that she should do that but as if it could potentially be a conflict of interest why 214 00:12:54,629 --> 00:13:02,690 wouldn't that person want to step away and let the other people be a part of the jlp i mean i don't 215 00:13:02,690 --> 00:13:10,450 know i just there's a lot to it that i would love for there to be an advisory opinion asked for and 216 00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:17,730 people i was told that can request that and that's her the actual positioning question in the select 217 00:13:17,730 --> 00:13:24,850 board i'm not sure what the jp and the it's not i'm going to check that out what does the jp and 218 00:13:24,850 --> 00:13:30,769 the taxes because she's part of the board of civil authority so she can go in for tax appeal right 219 00:13:30,769 --> 00:13:37,090 okay okay so she starts as collecting the bad taxes then she has a say in what the assessment 220 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:40,850 well you were talking about the runoff that's why you're confusing me you mean she's already on the 221 00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:41,730 jp correct 222 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:46,929 yeah so well she's technically we've all been technically voted in but is that she 223 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:54,120 correct okay so i understand you know well technically there's kind of like a two-way 224 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:59,320 tie i mean whatever however you want to put it nevertheless we have to get to this point so 225 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:04,840 for me if she's going to collect the taxes she shouldn't sit on the board of abatement and the 226 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,480 board of and the in the board of civil authority because you can't even recuse yourself from 227 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:11,799 just one specific thing you 228 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,750 have to sit out of all of it like you can't hear anything because it could directly affect your pay 229 00:14:18,309 --> 00:14:23,429 if she votes no to obey something that only benefits her because those taxes are already 230 00:14:23,429 --> 00:14:27,830 accounted for you're accounting for them as a board saying that we're going to collect 0.97 231 00:14:27,830 --> 00:14:33,830 thousand dollars this year in delinquent taxes you budgeted for it okay so you we know that that's 232 00:14:33,830 --> 00:14:40,470 going to happen so if she says no on an abatement okay it's money in her pocket i understand that she 233 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:46,389 doesn't get taxes and penalties okay but still i don't believe she does to my knowledge get any 234 00:14:46,389 --> 00:14:54,470 part of the taxes and penalties but how she could yeah sorry penalty interest i misspoke i apologize 235 00:14:55,110 --> 00:15:02,789 so you could see how her saying no to an abatement and then no to a tax appeal could directly affect 236 00:15:02,789 --> 00:15:06,710 her pocket as well as having a say in an assessment in essence if she's got to say 237 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:11,429 an assessment she's giving herself a raise because if that money goes up and it goes 238 00:15:11,429 --> 00:15:15,350 up every year to me i just think it's something that should be looked into and it should be made 239 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:23,639 known that people that people should know that she has her hand in the entire pot and it goes 240 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:30,720 right from the top all the way to the bottom and to me that's a conflict of interest jp is kind of 241 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:37,600 like the whatever portion of it okay and i'm just talking as far as the runoff for that that would 242 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,679 be an easy fix and save the town money if she did 243 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:45,440 just removed herself from that election because to me it's a conflict of interest but also the 244 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:51,509 other portion is or she just doesn't need to sit on the board of civil authority i don't know how 245 00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:57,750 that works jp you're on the board right so that's what i'm saying i i you can't like you can't recuse 246 00:15:57,750 --> 00:16:04,629 yourself from sitting in in every single meeting is what my point is so i'm i'm i'm thinking that 247 00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:10,149 it would it would be cool right you can't be all of them you can't if you recuse yourself 248 00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:20,610 that's what i'm saying i understand so well she she's not part of the runoff election no no well no 249 00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:25,570 i understand that but when we were looking so if somebody like let's say me personally because i was 250 00:16:25,570 --> 00:16:30,769 voted and i you know i said you know what i'm going to back out and i back out then those 251 00:16:30,769 --> 00:16:35,730 people could sit could sit in there i'm not saying that i was confused too but i understand my 252 00:16:35,730 --> 00:16:41,169 apologies for not explaining the other two wouldn't have to happen and it saves the town money and i'll 253 00:16:41,409 --> 00:16:47,169 be able to get out of the way we go but that's just an opinion that's that holds no clout my 254 00:16:47,169 --> 00:16:53,809 biggest thing is being a conflict of interest like to me just having your hand in the entire part 255 00:16:53,809 --> 00:16:57,970 and the entire part if she wasn't paid based on five percent of the tax delinquent taxes she 256 00:16:57,970 --> 00:17:02,690 collected it'd be a debt issue right but that's not how it is and i know that you can say it's 257 00:17:02,690 --> 00:17:07,809 a salary in the book but we know that that's not the case because we know how she sends in her 258 00:17:07,809 --> 00:17:11,170 papers we know how she budgets for are you guys but you're right the budget does go up because 259 00:17:11,809 --> 00:17:17,569 more that makes sense yeah more people don't pay their taxes on time and the taxes go up 260 00:17:19,009 --> 00:17:23,490 correct it's a no-brainer so i think it's something that should be looked into and discussed 261 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:29,009 yeah um moving forward you can't say every year they go up for some years she doesn't get what's 262 00:17:29,009 --> 00:17:35,089 budgeted either so oh no no you can never tell like i was saying is if if let's just say we have 263 00:17:35,089 --> 00:17:40,130 five people that don't pay their taxes every year and taxes go up every year those same people that 264 00:17:40,690 --> 00:17:41,490 budget or that 265 00:17:41,809 --> 00:17:47,089 wage whatever you want to call it would always go up yes the other thing is if no one doesn't pay 266 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:52,210 it is delinquent then she'd get zero right but that's not what i understand 267 00:17:55,569 --> 00:17:57,809 you can't even give a registered a dog for four bucks 268 00:17:59,809 --> 00:18:04,049 so i think there would be something that she's looking to i'd like to look into it and 269 00:18:04,609 --> 00:18:11,490 and again it's not i don't believe at least where i'm coming from is it's a good question 270 00:18:11,569 --> 00:18:17,809 to look into it's been it's one of those things that it's always been right since i've been here 271 00:18:17,809 --> 00:18:23,890 it's always been and i never thought about it the way we've all done it right and there was 272 00:18:23,890 --> 00:18:29,009 a lot of things like that when i came to this town it was it's always been a lot of things 273 00:18:29,009 --> 00:18:33,890 have changed but i would like to look into it and i don't want to know the answer i mean you 274 00:18:33,890 --> 00:18:39,809 seem to be very knowledgeable on this jp and delinquent tax collection is it a conflict through 275 00:18:39,809 --> 00:18:40,609 the statutes 276 00:18:42,049 --> 00:18:49,250 it's vague yeah it's it's great and so it's hard for me to tell because i'm waiting i'm waiting 277 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:59,089 for my response back from the vlct as well as the um board of ethics and i i think you're going to 278 00:18:59,089 --> 00:19:03,569 get a lot farther with the board of ethics than i am although i hold the position on the planning 279 00:19:03,569 --> 00:19:10,450 commission they stand in the vlct will listen listen a little bit more to you and again this 280 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:11,890 isn't personal this is 281 00:19:12,049 --> 00:19:18,609 just i won't be a jp until january february 1st but oh yeah yeah technically you wouldn't care if 282 00:19:18,609 --> 00:19:23,970 i was sitting in that position i don't care who's there your best friend my wife doesn't it's right 283 00:19:23,970 --> 00:19:28,210 to me it's a conflict but she caught you in order as a tax collector yeah 284 00:19:30,049 --> 00:19:36,690 just kidding but yeah no i understand it well so that's waiting to see some of the conflict 285 00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:41,890 of interest because it seems like it's going to be more thorough than what we 286 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:48,450 have here so just well yeah and i have to wait to for that stuff to kind of i requested all of it 287 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:56,390 you know i'm just waiting for it to be finalized and come down through but i mean regardless if 288 00:19:56,950 --> 00:20:03,750 the state comes in and wants to leave it vague that specific thing it's still shady business 289 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:08,710 how it looks for the town and how you could see it can really ruffle a lot of feathers 290 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:12,069 if all of a sudden like i'm constantly paying my taxes late 291 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:17,349 but she had a say in my property value going up you know a plethora of stuff could come out 292 00:20:17,910 --> 00:20:23,029 okay i'm not saying it's going to i don't think i don't know if she's done anything she wasn't 293 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:27,670 supposed to do that's not my position my point is is moving forward i don't think that i think that 294 00:20:27,670 --> 00:20:33,509 it's i don't i don't think we should speculate any wrong doing i think that if there's that 295 00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:42,309 that feeling yeah you know i mean it's just that that image yeah that if it could happen 296 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:49,269 and there is an ethical thing and we we don't need to do that and she can do her job here not be 297 00:20:49,269 --> 00:20:55,910 jp saying board of a payment it would ease a little bit of that well it would eliminate uh i think it 298 00:20:55,910 --> 00:21:00,869 would eliminate the conflict completely she was just collecting taxes or bill was collecting taxes 299 00:21:00,869 --> 00:21:07,269 or john was collecting taxes right because i mean her driving with john i i do i understand that she 300 00:21:07,269 --> 00:21:12,390 had time she knew where everything was i understand that yeah she could give an opinion but john has a 301 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:17,349 formula i mean i understand that but john didn't know much you know oh i'm not i'm not going to 302 00:21:17,349 --> 00:21:22,470 speculate that either i don't do his job um it wasn't a speculation i went through the meetings 303 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:29,509 i do that he didn't even well no i said i'm not going to i mean yeah we won't get into it but um 304 00:21:29,509 --> 00:21:33,910 nevertheless we had someone before him that i drove around with also and i had an opinion about 305 00:21:33,910 --> 00:21:41,589 that woman so there's you know opinions nevertheless i think it's a good thing to bring up 306 00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:47,990 should look into it and if there's some a few things that can alleviate that feeling throughout 307 00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:53,670 the town and it might be a good thing to do uh wait yeah jim you had your hand up where you sit 308 00:21:53,670 --> 00:22:00,069 yes probably for saying it's it's on the same topic okay it's an alternative 309 00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:05,109 basically okay and what she would have to do or the board would have to do 310 00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:14,720 what she would have to step down and we would eliminate the tax clock period and 311 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,109 then it falls back on the treasure and at which time we don't have to pay 312 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:30,579 or or we're not paying somebody that much money because it doesn't so she wouldn't get that five 313 00:22:30,579 --> 00:22:36,500 percent or anything else and we just have to do the treasurer's job and collect well i think we 314 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:43,380 could also keep her as the minister of the clerk well she's actually such a clerk we don't have 315 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,900 but the jp's harder she has 316 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:51,619 asked to step down because that's an election question correct she would have to say okay 317 00:22:52,099 --> 00:22:59,299 if she were to step down my point is here is that she doesn't if she doesn't step down then 318 00:22:59,299 --> 00:23:05,299 the select board eliminates the tax collector position period she just said that's elected 319 00:23:05,859 --> 00:23:11,380 that's election we can't oh well no we cannot eliminate an elected position 320 00:23:13,539 --> 00:23:14,660 you might have to vote on it 321 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:15,700 we might have to vote on it 322 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:16,980 you can't eliminate don't vote on it 323 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:23,619 during the terms if she has a three-year term you can't like eliminate the position in the middle of 324 00:23:23,619 --> 00:23:31,619 it you have to let her finish out her term it's like we can't eliminate laurie's position we 325 00:23:31,619 --> 00:23:38,180 could not fund her we take away the funding title 32 taxation and finance chapter 17. here's the 326 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:45,220 other thing too if we do eliminate an elected position until the term is over right the way 327 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:52,819 i read it was pointed positions but now there's not enough i think there's no point no but that's 328 00:23:52,819 --> 00:23:56,740 what i'm saying there's a big difference in our town we have a lot of important decisions oh i 329 00:23:56,740 --> 00:24:04,660 did that this was a this was the language was and i can basically read it you'll understand it it 330 00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:14,339 says that if a town elects decides to eliminate that position or not have that position at all 331 00:24:14,339 --> 00:24:15,140 then then the 332 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:21,460 treasurer is okay but the people but the people had elected her for x amount of years i don't know 333 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:26,740 if it's a one-year term or a three-year term it would have to go full-time but you can't cut her 334 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:30,339 off in the middle here's the other thing you're saying that's like the slight board number you 335 00:24:30,339 --> 00:24:34,660 can't say well we're going to bring them down to three four to slack for it in the middle of the 336 00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:44,609 time what do you give it i know it's me but i don't care let me put this so if you go if the 337 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:51,519 delinquent taxes goes to the current tax collector we're going to have to fund some more time for 338 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:56,799 somebody oh well i don't know about that oh she doesn't have anything to do yeah all right 339 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:03,440 yeah i'm just saying i know i know this is just an alternative to that but i do believe 340 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:12,880 what pete is saying is absolutely 100 correct and i do believe she needs to step down as a jp 341 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,599 with tax collection 342 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:14,559 so i do believe she needs to step down as a jp 343 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:15,160 i really would like to see delinquent taxes go to the current tax collector 344 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,359 but i do believe she needs to step down as a jp 345 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,000 to hear from Deb. She's had her hand up. 346 00:25:17,619 --> 00:25:19,559 I lost all the 347 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:20,680 blood in my fingers. 348 00:25:20,980 --> 00:25:22,259 I put it back down. 349 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,920 Two 350 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,079 things. I can never just do one. 351 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,140 Well, you've been waiting so long 352 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:31,440 you probably should have five things. 353 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:32,359 So 354 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,170 when I brought this 355 00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:38,069 to you guys way back when I 356 00:25:38,069 --> 00:25:40,319 had asked her 357 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:42,440 to recuse herself during my 358 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,410 hearing was 359 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:46,329 a very similar thing to 360 00:25:46,329 --> 00:25:48,470 what we're talking about now. 361 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:50,450 Yep. And she told you no. 362 00:25:50,569 --> 00:25:51,730 She told me no. 363 00:25:51,849 --> 00:25:54,349 Wouldn't leave. And my thing 364 00:25:54,349 --> 00:25:55,589 was ethically 365 00:25:55,589 --> 00:25:58,069 she should have but that was a 366 00:25:58,069 --> 00:25:58,950 personality 367 00:25:58,950 --> 00:26:02,250 but the position itself should 368 00:26:02,250 --> 00:26:04,130 not have inserted itself 369 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:06,960 in a 370 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,960 property that she has knowledge 371 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,119 of and that's what was happening 372 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,079 with Club Road. 373 00:26:13,079 --> 00:26:14,799 Anyway, so 374 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:16,859 back then I was doing research in 375 00:26:16,859 --> 00:26:18,299 case law for 376 00:26:18,299 --> 00:26:21,589 conflicts of interest between 377 00:26:21,589 --> 00:26:23,450 tax collectors, board 378 00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:25,630 of abatement, all these things 379 00:26:25,630 --> 00:26:27,710 and Pownall recently 380 00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:29,390 as recent as 381 00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:30,490 2017 382 00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:33,430 it went all the way up to Burlington 383 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:35,630 so just imagine how expensive 384 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:37,509 that was for one person to 385 00:26:37,509 --> 00:26:39,390 want to keep their position. 386 00:26:40,289 --> 00:26:41,170 And the last 387 00:26:41,170 --> 00:26:43,250 point is, yes I agree 388 00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:45,609 towns are given a lot 389 00:26:45,609 --> 00:26:47,289 of leeway with 390 00:26:47,309 --> 00:26:49,309 multiple jobs but 391 00:26:49,309 --> 00:26:51,309 when there is a conflict of interest 392 00:26:51,309 --> 00:26:53,309 it should be severed so if it's brought 393 00:26:53,309 --> 00:26:55,309 to someone's attention, I don't care how long it's 394 00:26:55,309 --> 00:26:57,309 been going on, you guys 395 00:26:57,309 --> 00:26:59,309 are aware of that. People know. 396 00:26:59,309 --> 00:27:01,980 So 397 00:27:01,980 --> 00:27:03,980 that's not the case in this town. 398 00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:05,980 You've said it multiple times. 399 00:27:05,980 --> 00:27:07,980 We're so fortunate that we have lots 400 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:09,980 of people who want to sit 401 00:27:09,980 --> 00:27:12,039 on boards. Except the listers. 402 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,039 Well there's a reason but 403 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,039 I don't know what that reason is. There's a reason. 404 00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:18,039 That's the reason. Right here. 405 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,039 I've been going back and forth on that lister thing for 406 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,039 No, we'll talk aside. 407 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,039 It's not a 408 00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:26,039 conversation for the public. 409 00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,039 But we're very fortunate as a town 410 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,039 that we have a lot of people 411 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,039 that are active. So I don't 412 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,039 understand why people are so intent on 413 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,039 being on multiple 414 00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,039 boards. Is it a control 415 00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,039 thing or what? 416 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:44,140 I mean seriously. 417 00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:46,140 Do they run? 418 00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:48,589 Do they run? Yeah. 419 00:27:48,589 --> 00:27:50,589 They're mostly appointed. 420 00:27:50,589 --> 00:27:52,589 I think what you're referring to right there. 421 00:27:52,589 --> 00:27:54,589 Mostly appointed. 422 00:27:54,589 --> 00:27:56,589 Yeah, a lot of them are appointed. 423 00:27:56,589 --> 00:27:58,589 But we do, we have some great people 424 00:27:58,589 --> 00:28:00,589 on boards here in Sanford. 425 00:28:00,589 --> 00:28:02,589 Great people. I mean 426 00:28:02,589 --> 00:28:05,130 like for instance, I'm going to throw 427 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:07,130 your name out there and my name 428 00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:10,000 together. Deb 429 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,000 didn't want to sit on the planning 430 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 commission or resign from the planning 431 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 commission. I'm not mistaken because 432 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 being the AO. 433 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 I did the same thing. I never 434 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 went on the planning commission but I 435 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 was at every meeting and we did the 436 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 bylaws for two years. 437 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 And I stepped down and I could have 438 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 been on the planning commission. 439 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000 I stepped down to let other people. 440 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 That's what I'm talking about. We've got really good 441 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,700 people that have moral 442 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:38,700 ability. I'm afraid to let 443 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:40,700 other people step in there. 444 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,700 But there's people on some of our 445 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,700 boards here that we really got to look 446 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,700 at this from time to time 447 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,700 because 448 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,700 they're just holding the boards back. 449 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:53,180 It's not good. 450 00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:55,180 There's conflict of interest going on. 451 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:57,559 Not according to the rules 452 00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,599 but. Well it's hard 453 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:01,599 for me to understand and just 454 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:03,599 and I know we've talked about this 455 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:05,599 a lot of time now so I want to move on 456 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,599 but one more thing I would say when it comes to the boards 457 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,599 it's very hard for me to understand 458 00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:11,599 especially because the sign 459 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,599 issue. They keep talking 460 00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,599 about it but when 461 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,789 when I first 462 00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:19,789 came here there was a person sitting on 463 00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:21,789 a board who was on three boards. 464 00:29:21,789 --> 00:29:23,789 The select board, the planning board 465 00:29:23,789 --> 00:29:26,079 and the zoning board. 466 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,079 Now if that was still happening 467 00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:30,079 the select board brings to 468 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,079 the zoning board an issue 469 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:34,079 how does that person 470 00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,079 decide 471 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:38,079 what to do on that board 472 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,079 and if there's two of us 473 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,079 it makes it difficult. 474 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:44,079 You're right. If we had 475 00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,170 new people coming up 476 00:29:46,170 --> 00:29:48,430 you feel that they're 477 00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:50,430 capable of doing the job 478 00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:52,430 I wouldn't have a problem with that. 479 00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:54,430 Step aside 480 00:29:54,430 --> 00:29:56,430 and there's good board members. 481 00:29:56,430 --> 00:29:58,430 But I think this issue here 482 00:29:58,430 --> 00:30:00,430 we should definitely look into it 483 00:30:00,430 --> 00:30:02,430 and again I don't think it's a personal thing 484 00:30:02,430 --> 00:30:04,430 I think we should look into it because 485 00:30:04,430 --> 00:30:06,940 it makes us feel better for the town. 486 00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:09,930 Thank you. Anybody else? 487 00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:13,019 Laura, you're quiet. 488 00:30:18,809 --> 00:30:20,809 Reading and approval of records and orders 489 00:30:20,809 --> 00:30:22,809 Regular minutes of 490 00:30:22,809 --> 00:30:25,519 effort set. 491 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,519 I won't say anything. Motion to approve. 492 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,220 Second. 493 00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:33,950 All in favor? 494 00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:35,950 From conditions. Signed grant agreement 495 00:30:35,950 --> 00:30:37,950 for a MERC implementation grant. 496 00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:41,289 This is the one that 497 00:30:41,289 --> 00:30:43,289 They came and did 498 00:30:43,289 --> 00:30:45,289 an assessment of the garage 499 00:30:45,289 --> 00:30:47,289 and felt that the doors needed 500 00:30:47,289 --> 00:30:49,289 replacing and 501 00:30:49,289 --> 00:30:51,289 there was a lot of things 502 00:30:51,289 --> 00:30:53,289 and we submitted a grant. 503 00:30:53,289 --> 00:30:55,359 They gave us 504 00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:58,160 $33,000 505 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160 We can have some of that done 506 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,160 and I have a grant agreement here. 507 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,380 I was given names of companies 508 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:06,380 that would do this kind of work 509 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:08,380 and the EPCRC wants to know 510 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:10,380 if we just want to do our own 511 00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:12,380 request for proposal and handle it ourselves 512 00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:14,380 or do we want to 513 00:31:14,380 --> 00:31:16,380 pay them 514 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:18,380 to create their request for proposals 515 00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:20,380 and kind of 516 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:22,380 So what kind of work is it? 517 00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:24,380 Something that we have 518 00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:26,380 people 519 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:28,599 Replace the 520 00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:30,599 doors going in and out 521 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,599 and then replace the main garage 522 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,599 doors? 523 00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,759 We have people in the town 524 00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,759 If we have people in the town 525 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:40,759 that can do this type of work 526 00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:42,920 They pay taxes in the town 527 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920 and there's 528 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920 some contractors that have 529 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920 gone above and beyond 530 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,920 the call of duty and helped out this time 531 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920 I would like to have a little bit of control 532 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,920 on who gets the job 533 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,920 I don't really want to see some 534 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,920 and nothing against them 535 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Some guy from Burlington come down here 536 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,920 to do the job 537 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,079 We have no idea who he is 538 00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:07,079 I'd rather have a little control 539 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,079 and if we can't get someone 540 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,079 then maybe we'll have to 541 00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,079 It just seems to me 542 00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,079 on this type of work 543 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,079 If it was a specialized thing 544 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,079 I would say no 545 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,079 You're putting a door in 546 00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,079 and we've got guys in this town 547 00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:25,079 that are contractors 548 00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:27,079 They're licensed insured contractors 549 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,079 What is the match for this grant? 550 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:31,950 It's a 20% match 551 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,950 Okay 552 00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:35,950 What did we put in for 553 00:32:35,950 --> 00:32:38,039 for the grant? 554 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,880 I think it's more because 555 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880 it included our portion of it 556 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,880 We didn't get estimates 557 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,880 really 558 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,880 We just based it off from 559 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,880 their assessment 560 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,880 and their anticipated numbers 561 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 So what did we request having done? 562 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,880 The doors? 563 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,880 The big doors 564 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,880 and then the small doors 565 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Hand doors? 566 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640 They're giving us 33 567 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640 and we're paying 20% 568 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,640 of the number to 80% 569 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,640 of that is 33 570 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640 We'll get 33 571 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,980 and then we'll pay the 20 572 00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:21,980 And did they say in this 573 00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:24,359 what type of doors 574 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:26,359 they wanted? 575 00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:28,359 If we look at the original 576 00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:30,619 system there 577 00:33:30,619 --> 00:33:32,619 I think they just said 578 00:33:32,619 --> 00:33:35,289 thin ceiling doors 579 00:33:35,289 --> 00:33:37,289 or ceilings 580 00:33:37,289 --> 00:33:39,289 They talked about the ceiling 581 00:33:39,289 --> 00:33:41,289 they talked about the roof 582 00:33:41,289 --> 00:33:43,289 but we had already moved forward 583 00:33:43,289 --> 00:33:45,289 with that 584 00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:48,220 We know we need no doors 585 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:50,220 We said we'll just replace 586 00:33:50,220 --> 00:33:52,829 the bottom panel 587 00:33:52,829 --> 00:33:54,829 Right, I think we went for 588 00:33:54,829 --> 00:33:56,829 let's just do the whole doors 589 00:33:56,829 --> 00:34:01,450 We're going to get a grant 590 00:34:01,450 --> 00:34:03,450 Replace it to some solid 591 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:05,450 insulated ceiling entry 592 00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:07,450 Replace it to some overhead 593 00:34:07,450 --> 00:34:09,449 doors insulated 594 00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:11,679 Those are both high priority too 595 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,820 Yep 596 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,820 It's probably high priority 597 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:19,820 because of the energy 598 00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:21,820 That's what it is 599 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:23,820 We just put a roof on 600 00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:26,329 didn't put insulation on 601 00:34:26,329 --> 00:34:28,329 We only have so much money 602 00:34:28,329 --> 00:34:31,840 What they had up there 603 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840 before 604 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,840 So see the door replacement 605 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,840 and ceilings 606 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,639 The small doors 607 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,239 and then the big doors 608 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,309 We didn't do a heat pump 609 00:34:45,309 --> 00:34:47,309 We didn't do the ceiling tightness 610 00:34:47,309 --> 00:34:49,309 We didn't do the window replacement 611 00:34:49,309 --> 00:34:52,619 So for this $33,000 grant 612 00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:54,619 do we have to specify 613 00:34:54,619 --> 00:34:56,619 what we're doing 614 00:34:56,619 --> 00:34:58,650 I guess that's what I'm asking 615 00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:05,000 It doesn't specify here 616 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 on the grant agreement 617 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000 I mean I think 618 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000 it says by December 16th 619 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000 there are other forms online 620 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 that we will have to fill out 621 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000 So there's probably going to be more 622 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,099 coming down the pipe 623 00:35:19,099 --> 00:35:21,099 specifically 624 00:35:21,099 --> 00:35:23,099 Because it does say 625 00:35:23,099 --> 00:35:26,349 utility 626 00:35:26,349 --> 00:35:28,349 We'll have to install a new electric heater 627 00:35:28,349 --> 00:35:30,349 contact the utility 628 00:35:30,349 --> 00:35:32,599 and have them install the heater 629 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,639 because ours is cracked 630 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:36,639 So this is just 631 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,639 the big doors 632 00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:40,639 insulated doors 633 00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,639 the ceiling around it 634 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:44,639 and then the small doors 635 00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:56,110 That's all we're doing 636 00:35:56,110 --> 00:35:58,110 I think we should sign it 637 00:35:58,110 --> 00:36:03,469 Use it fine 638 00:36:03,469 --> 00:36:05,469 Where's the grant? 639 00:36:05,469 --> 00:36:09,480 When will this be awarded? 640 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,480 When we're awarded the grant 641 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,840 We should do it 642 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,840 and announce 643 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,840 I'm sure we can do it 644 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,719 this coming summer 645 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,880 Motion to sign 646 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,880 Second 647 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:31,239 I'll do it 648 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,360 I agree 649 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:42,219 That's it 650 00:36:42,219 --> 00:36:44,219 Just one signature 651 00:36:44,219 --> 00:36:46,219 At this point 652 00:36:46,219 --> 00:36:48,219 So what will we do 653 00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:52,829 When we get 654 00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:54,829 actual quotes 655 00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:56,829 from their estimated numbers 656 00:36:56,829 --> 00:36:58,829 from their assessment 657 00:36:58,829 --> 00:37:08,889 we'll have a better feel of it 658 00:37:08,889 --> 00:37:12,139 Anything else under early conditions? 659 00:37:12,139 --> 00:37:14,139 No, haven't heard from anybody 660 00:37:14,139 --> 00:37:16,139 Did you get snow on your road, Mark? 661 00:37:16,139 --> 00:37:18,139 We got it 662 00:37:18,139 --> 00:37:20,139 Yeah 663 00:37:20,139 --> 00:37:22,139 It was snowing at my house 664 00:37:22,139 --> 00:37:24,139 Right 665 00:37:24,139 --> 00:37:26,139 Somewhere right between 666 00:37:26,139 --> 00:37:28,139 It must be in the south 667 00:37:28,139 --> 00:37:30,139 Big bad 668 00:37:30,139 --> 00:37:32,139 It was like 669 00:37:32,139 --> 00:37:34,139 slush iron 670 00:37:34,139 --> 00:37:36,139 I know 671 00:37:36,139 --> 00:37:38,139 As high as they are 672 00:37:38,139 --> 00:37:40,139 Yeah 673 00:37:40,139 --> 00:37:42,139 23 or more 674 00:37:42,139 --> 00:37:44,139 You're 22? 675 00:37:44,139 --> 00:37:46,139 You're higher than us 676 00:37:46,139 --> 00:37:48,139 It's up there 677 00:37:48,139 --> 00:37:50,139 Recycling 678 00:37:50,139 --> 00:37:52,139 Just from my son's house 679 00:37:52,139 --> 00:37:54,400 to my house 680 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,400 Recycling monitor 681 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400 substitute position 682 00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:04,460 You told me 683 00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:08,460 So 684 00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,460 Buzz has been out for 685 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:12,460 help and reason 686 00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:14,460 for a few weeks 687 00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:16,460 and Carol's been working 688 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,460 There's no substitute 689 00:38:18,460 --> 00:38:20,460 no helper for Sadie 690 00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,460 So 691 00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:24,460 Roy, who has been filling in 692 00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:26,460 for backup 693 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:28,460 at the transfer station for several years 694 00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:30,460 He said he's just very busy 695 00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:32,460 especially from now until Christmas 696 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,460 Um 697 00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:38,570 Sorry to you 698 00:38:38,570 --> 00:38:40,570 Carol 699 00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:43,050 She never stops smiling 700 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:45,050 whether she's mad or not 701 00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:47,050 She didn't think of all my Saturdays coming up 702 00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:49,050 So 703 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:51,050 Roy did not resign 704 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:53,050 Roy did not resign 705 00:38:53,050 --> 00:38:55,050 He just said he's way too busy 706 00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:57,050 Way too busy 707 00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:59,050 So I guess he still could be backup 708 00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:01,050 if we really needed some 709 00:39:01,050 --> 00:39:03,050 But we do have an application for someone 710 00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:05,050 that's interested in working 711 00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:07,050 If I might ask 712 00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:09,050 Do they have a 713 00:39:09,050 --> 00:39:11,050 amount of money that they budgeted 714 00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:13,050 for this position? 715 00:39:13,050 --> 00:39:15,050 Yes 716 00:39:15,050 --> 00:39:17,559 And could it be like 717 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:19,849 I'll call anybody soon 718 00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:21,849 Who would I talk to about that? 719 00:39:21,849 --> 00:39:23,849 A what? 720 00:39:23,849 --> 00:39:25,849 I can possibly have somebody do it 721 00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:27,849 part time 722 00:39:27,849 --> 00:39:29,849 Who's the school here? 723 00:39:29,849 --> 00:39:32,039 The um 724 00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:34,039 It's only just like on call 725 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:36,039 Buzz has not resigned 726 00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:38,039 Right, so it's part time, part time? He's just out there 727 00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:40,039 Part time, part time 728 00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,039 But it'd be good to still have their name 729 00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:44,039 That in case 730 00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,079 Roy can't do it 731 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,079 This one can't do it 732 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,079 It's just like having a group of substitute teachers 733 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,079 Right 734 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,079 That you can call upon 735 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,079 It's funny, a substitute teacher 736 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,079 No, no, no 737 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,079 A substitute 738 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,079 A help carrel 739 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,079 A backup help carrel 740 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,079 You know what's sad is 741 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,079 I don't know why 742 00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:10,079 What's sad is 743 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,079 We had volunteers 744 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,079 And because our insurance policies 745 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,079 Can't be up there 746 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,079 We're all being insured 747 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:20,079 Be an employee 748 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,079 You have to be an employee 749 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,079 I mean we should be able to 750 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:26,079 Go up and help out 751 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,170 And we did have a couple 752 00:40:28,170 --> 00:40:30,170 That just helped out 753 00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:32,170 I'll do it but 754 00:40:32,170 --> 00:40:34,170 You can't 755 00:40:34,170 --> 00:40:36,170 You need to be on the list 756 00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:38,170 On the payroll 757 00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:40,170 Thank you about that 758 00:40:40,170 --> 00:40:42,170 I cut a tree out on the main road 759 00:40:42,170 --> 00:40:44,170 The other day 760 00:40:44,170 --> 00:40:46,170 Me and Nancy and her husband 761 00:40:46,170 --> 00:40:48,170 And we don't work for the state 762 00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:50,170 We'll probably get in trouble 763 00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:52,170 Are board members covered 764 00:40:52,170 --> 00:40:54,170 On your insurance 765 00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:56,170 So this is Townsville Stanford 766 00:40:56,170 --> 00:40:58,170 I Joseph Puccini 767 00:40:58,170 --> 00:41:00,170 Would like you to consider me 768 00:41:00,170 --> 00:41:02,170 As an alternate for the transfer station 769 00:41:02,170 --> 00:41:04,170 With Townsville Stanford 770 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:06,170 Joseph Puccini Jr 771 00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:08,170 This is carrel's husband 772 00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:10,170 I wonder if they get along 773 00:41:10,170 --> 00:41:12,170 She's going to be his boss 774 00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,170 And I don't know if that's 775 00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:16,170 Going to be good or not 776 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:18,170 So nothing's changed 777 00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:20,360 So do you think 778 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,360 You want to do this 779 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,360 I don't have a problem with that 780 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,360 I think John's right 781 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,360 Back up back up 782 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,360 These guys just want to help out 783 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,360 There's no money 784 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,360 And you can get the same pay 785 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,360 As the substitute gets now 786 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,360 Yeah 787 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,360 It's just little money 788 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,360 Everybody's got stuff going on 789 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360 It's 120 bucks an hour 790 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,360 For a couple hours a week 791 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,360 Yeah 792 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,489 You're pretty much just going to 793 00:41:50,489 --> 00:41:52,489 Make sure they put the stuff 794 00:41:52,489 --> 00:41:54,489 In the right spot 795 00:41:54,489 --> 00:41:56,489 That's what you pay 796 00:41:56,489 --> 00:41:58,489 Some people 797 00:41:58,489 --> 00:42:00,489 $15 a month 798 00:42:00,489 --> 00:42:02,489 Do you have a motion 799 00:42:02,489 --> 00:42:04,489 To approve hiring Joe Puccini Jr 800 00:42:04,489 --> 00:42:06,489 I'll make a motion 801 00:42:06,489 --> 00:42:08,489 All in favor 802 00:42:08,489 --> 00:42:11,039 Aye 803 00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:13,039 Can you let him know 804 00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:15,039 Come in and fill out some paperwork 805 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:21,130 I don't think I have anything else 806 00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:23,320 On recycling 807 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,320 Discussion review and revise 808 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,320 Highway ordinance 809 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,320 Unfortunately that didn't get done 810 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,320 Laura's computer 811 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,320 Has been really 812 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,320 Terrible 813 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,320 The school internet has been down 814 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,480 More than it's up 815 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,480 Terrible 816 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Taxes in this year 817 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,480 So with this 818 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480 Casey no 819 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,480 With this 820 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480 Do we have a time period 821 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,480 No 822 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,480 We probably did 823 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,480 $750,000 824 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,480 Because we haven't had 825 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,480 It to put in 826 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,769 It's been long 827 00:43:03,769 --> 00:43:05,769 How come we don't have the 828 00:43:05,769 --> 00:43:07,769 D.V. fiber 829 00:43:07,769 --> 00:43:09,769 Isn't that something that the county wanted to install 830 00:43:09,769 --> 00:43:11,769 Well I guess 831 00:43:11,769 --> 00:43:13,769 We need to get ourselves 832 00:43:13,769 --> 00:43:15,769 Information 833 00:43:15,769 --> 00:43:17,769 We need a lot of things 834 00:43:17,769 --> 00:43:19,769 We can't just get D.V. fiber 835 00:43:19,769 --> 00:43:21,769 I have sensitive information 836 00:43:21,769 --> 00:43:23,769 And payroll 837 00:43:23,769 --> 00:43:25,769 Did we use the figure 838 00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:27,769 In the D.V. fiber 839 00:43:27,769 --> 00:43:29,769 Can't we just use the 840 00:43:29,769 --> 00:43:31,769 D.V. fiber 841 00:43:31,769 --> 00:43:33,769 Well no 842 00:43:33,769 --> 00:43:35,769 We are in need 843 00:43:35,769 --> 00:43:37,769 That's for sure 844 00:43:37,769 --> 00:43:39,769 I mean honestly 845 00:43:39,769 --> 00:43:41,769 Nobody claimed it 846 00:43:41,769 --> 00:43:43,769 It's amazing 847 00:43:43,769 --> 00:43:45,769 Oh it just needs to be designated 848 00:43:45,769 --> 00:43:47,769 Yeah right 849 00:43:47,769 --> 00:43:49,769 As long as it's designated 850 00:43:49,769 --> 00:43:51,769 Or the ARPA money 851 00:43:51,769 --> 00:43:53,769 That's what it is 852 00:43:53,769 --> 00:43:55,769 That money is from ARPA 853 00:43:55,769 --> 00:43:57,769 Like you were saying 854 00:43:57,769 --> 00:43:59,769 It's already designated for that project 855 00:43:59,769 --> 00:44:01,769 So we could use it 856 00:44:01,769 --> 00:44:03,769 I don't know 857 00:44:03,769 --> 00:44:05,869 There's something to look into 858 00:44:05,869 --> 00:44:07,869 I took some feelers out this week 859 00:44:07,869 --> 00:44:09,869 With my frustration 860 00:44:09,869 --> 00:44:11,929 And they're going to look at pricing 861 00:44:11,929 --> 00:44:13,929 I think it will be much more expensive 862 00:44:13,929 --> 00:44:15,929 To just piggyback them off from the school 863 00:44:15,929 --> 00:44:17,929 And just paying the portion 864 00:44:17,929 --> 00:44:19,929 That the school gets 865 00:44:19,929 --> 00:44:22,219 And the school doesn't use D.V. fiber 866 00:44:22,219 --> 00:44:24,219 They're using what 867 00:44:24,219 --> 00:44:26,219 Way before D.V. fiber 868 00:44:26,219 --> 00:44:28,219 Because of their standardized testing 869 00:44:28,219 --> 00:44:30,219 Being online 870 00:44:30,219 --> 00:44:32,219 They had to have a high speed internet 871 00:44:32,219 --> 00:44:34,219 That wasn't offered here 872 00:44:34,219 --> 00:44:36,219 So the school has special internet 873 00:44:36,219 --> 00:44:38,219 Being a school 874 00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:40,219 And so we piggyback off from that 875 00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:42,219 So we have very high internet 876 00:44:42,219 --> 00:44:44,219 When it works 877 00:44:44,219 --> 00:44:47,880 But the router is dying 878 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,880 And it's just kind of difficult 879 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:56,010 Okay 880 00:44:56,010 --> 00:44:58,010 Correspondence 881 00:44:58,010 --> 00:45:09,389 I have a letter 882 00:45:09,389 --> 00:45:11,389 From Dan Pavlin 883 00:45:11,389 --> 00:45:13,389 Who wanted to come tonight 884 00:45:13,389 --> 00:45:15,389 But due to planning commission commitments 885 00:45:15,389 --> 00:45:17,389 He was unable to come 886 00:45:17,389 --> 00:45:19,389 Is that where Kurt is 887 00:45:19,389 --> 00:45:21,389 He went to the BCRC thing 888 00:45:21,389 --> 00:45:23,389 He may be there too 889 00:45:23,389 --> 00:45:25,639 They went to the BCRC thing 890 00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:27,639 I think a handful of them were 891 00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:30,829 You said you might be doing something 892 00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:32,829 So Dan wanted to be here tonight 893 00:45:32,829 --> 00:45:34,829 Dan wanted to be here tonight 894 00:45:34,829 --> 00:45:36,829 Yeah go ahead 895 00:45:36,829 --> 00:45:39,530 Dan wanted to be here tonight 896 00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:41,630 To deliver this in person 897 00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:43,630 But he's at the regional planning meeting 898 00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:45,630 In Manchester 899 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:47,920 The regional planning commission 900 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,920 Wants to change the plan 901 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,920 To allow windows in Stanford 902 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,920 On Hoosier Grange 903 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,920 Which is this number two site 904 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,920 In the entire state 905 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,920 Anyway we have bigger fish 906 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,920 To fry 907 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,920 Now I have to tell you 908 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,920 It's the largest 909 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,920 In the United States 910 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,920 France and England 911 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,139 May be praying permission 912 00:46:12,139 --> 00:46:14,139 To use our long ranged missiles 913 00:46:14,139 --> 00:46:16,139 Inside Russia 914 00:46:16,139 --> 00:46:18,239 Russia has said on several occasions 915 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,590 This would amount to NATO 916 00:46:20,590 --> 00:46:22,590 Being at war with Russia 917 00:46:22,590 --> 00:46:24,590 That's World War 3 people 918 00:46:24,590 --> 00:46:26,590 And Russia has stated 919 00:46:26,590 --> 00:46:28,590 They will use nukes in response 920 00:46:28,590 --> 00:46:30,590 So please revisit my letter 921 00:46:30,590 --> 00:46:32,590 Dated May 18th of this year 922 00:46:32,590 --> 00:46:41,130 which is what Dan was writing this letter, Ukraine launched U.S. missiles inside Russia on Monday night. 923 00:46:41,909 --> 00:46:52,179 Just so you know, when first nuke goes off in Europe, the markets worldwide will collapse. 924 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,719 The grid nationwide is very vulnerable to attack. 925 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:03,039 And according to my sources, Dan's sources, it is a likely target early on. 926 00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:07,840 May the good Lord's protection be over Stanford and all of its inhabitants. 927 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,079 Thank you. 928 00:47:12,179 --> 00:47:18,800 And attached to this is the main team where you can get the canned water pump, 929 00:47:19,579 --> 00:47:27,480 shumways, heirloom, pollinated seeds, water filters, natural news, wellness company, 930 00:47:28,019 --> 00:47:30,840 keep three months minimum supply of food on hand. 931 00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:39,329 That's Dan's. 932 00:47:39,789 --> 00:47:44,269 Any other correspondence, Laura? 933 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:56,360 I guess just to let you know, I gave all of you financial reports for the quarter ending in September. 934 00:47:57,869 --> 00:48:03,570 Income, expenses, the first sheets are the town, the last sheets of each are the highway. 935 00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:09,110 So if you have any questions, if you want to sit down with me and look through it, please agree. 936 00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:11,360 You can't touch me. 937 00:48:12,730 --> 00:48:13,369 There you go. 938 00:48:13,369 --> 00:48:13,590 Thank you, everyone. 939 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,179 Any other? 940 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,739 Any other old business that we have? 941 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:29,000 Did we get any response at all for Christmas tree lighting? 942 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:29,940 Anything? 943 00:48:31,579 --> 00:48:33,980 No volunteers. 944 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,400 Okay. 945 00:48:34,739 --> 00:48:36,599 I did have one question about it. 946 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,039 It was with his mom. 947 00:48:38,219 --> 00:48:42,679 His mom wanted to take him home with it, and then I never heard back. 948 00:48:43,019 --> 00:48:44,599 She did it one year, didn't she? 949 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:45,840 Yeah, she did it one year. 950 00:48:46,099 --> 00:48:46,300 Yeah. 951 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,260 But I'm assuming, you know, I would have heard back. 952 00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:50,500 Kind of like the Listers, I guess. 953 00:48:50,579 --> 00:48:51,659 They'll be my step to the plate. 954 00:48:51,659 --> 00:48:52,219 I will. 955 00:48:52,780 --> 00:48:58,380 I'm a volunteer tree, but I don't have time to decorate and all that. 956 00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:03,340 So if somebody wanted to, you know, I could help set it up, make sure it's all standing up right. 957 00:49:04,059 --> 00:49:10,579 But if somebody wanted to decorate it and put the lights on it, whatever, you know, I can get the tree to the town. 958 00:49:10,739 --> 00:49:11,219 It's not an issue. 959 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,090 I shouldn't say anything about it. 960 00:49:17,090 --> 00:49:21,090 In previous years, Deb has volunteered a beautiful tree, too, but... 961 00:49:22,349 --> 00:49:22,570 Where? 962 00:49:23,550 --> 00:49:24,849 Thank you, Deb. 963 00:49:24,889 --> 00:49:25,570 We don't have the... 964 00:49:25,570 --> 00:49:26,449 Thank you for having me. 965 00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:27,050 I shouldn't... 966 00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:28,969 We don't have the really big ones. 967 00:49:28,969 --> 00:49:29,989 I shouldn't say anything about it. 968 00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:30,170 Yeah. 969 00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:30,210 Yeah. 970 00:49:30,909 --> 00:49:31,150 Okay. 971 00:49:31,230 --> 00:49:35,670 Yeah, so I don't know if the board wants to stop down and pick one out, or I can bring one or whatever, you know. 972 00:49:36,739 --> 00:49:37,539 Well, let's wait and see. 973 00:49:37,539 --> 00:49:40,659 It just has no time to decorate it. 974 00:49:40,699 --> 00:49:44,039 Let's wait and see if we have some volunteers who want to help decorate it. 975 00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:54,349 I mean, if you just want to do a tree and light it and go with that, and he wants to come up... 976 00:49:54,349 --> 00:49:55,170 I got the stand. 977 00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:56,570 We can put it in the stand. 978 00:49:57,389 --> 00:50:05,829 The stand I made, they'll drive it into the ground, get the bolts coming inside, put a couple of stakes in. 979 00:50:05,869 --> 00:50:07,090 You might have to work it to the building or something. 980 00:50:07,090 --> 00:50:10,510 Yeah, yeah, I put a couple of work, you know, I'll help you out with that if you want to do that. 981 00:50:10,690 --> 00:50:14,309 It doesn't have to be like it's always been either, like we've always... 982 00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:20,409 Well, I'll probably deal with it this week, but maybe after things get in the way, if you want to do that. 983 00:50:20,530 --> 00:50:21,550 Yeah, it's up to you. 984 00:50:22,050 --> 00:50:22,989 I mean, I'll decorate it. 985 00:50:22,989 --> 00:50:24,190 I think Teresa said she might... 986 00:50:24,190 --> 00:50:24,250 I don't know. 987 00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:24,309 I don't know. 988 00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:24,329 I don't know. 989 00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:28,230 No, she's just done doing that, but she will come down to help. 990 00:50:28,389 --> 00:50:31,389 Well, it's a nice walk, drive by the school, and see the tree live. 991 00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:34,469 I didn't see it not happening at all, but... 992 00:50:34,469 --> 00:50:42,469 Maybe in the future, maybe we could get one from Deb, we could plant it or something, and have one just set up out there. 993 00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:43,429 We don't have to... 994 00:50:43,429 --> 00:50:45,070 We've talked about that. 995 00:50:45,090 --> 00:50:46,030 Just decorate it. 996 00:50:46,190 --> 00:50:48,690 Yeah, we were going to... 997 00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:51,849 We wanted to just get a tree down here. 998 00:50:51,909 --> 00:50:54,309 We would have donated it, but there was... 999 00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:55,489 Something... 1000 00:50:55,489 --> 00:50:57,289 There was a reason why. 1001 00:50:57,849 --> 00:51:00,170 I think they were wondering where to put it. 1002 00:51:00,269 --> 00:51:06,269 Like, see, where we put this one, a really good plant one, because there's water lines and stuff under there. 1003 00:51:06,289 --> 00:51:08,670 And there's no electricity going right out there. 1004 00:51:08,670 --> 00:51:11,389 If you go from the pole that way, there's... 1005 00:51:11,389 --> 00:51:14,510 Apparently, there was electricity, but now they don't know where it is. 1006 00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:16,170 There is a well there. 1007 00:51:16,269 --> 00:51:17,670 There's got to be a pump to it, right? 1008 00:51:17,809 --> 00:51:17,969 Yeah. 1009 00:51:18,409 --> 00:51:18,570 Yeah. 1010 00:51:18,889 --> 00:51:19,690 So, I don't know. 1011 00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:22,289 And then we talked about up on the side here. 1012 00:51:22,289 --> 00:51:24,070 I feel like I have to get a permit. 1013 00:51:24,070 --> 00:51:24,150 I feel like I have to get a permit. 1014 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:25,170 Oh, my gosh. 1015 00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:26,190 That would be wonderful. 1016 00:51:26,989 --> 00:51:28,469 Yeah, you might have to get a permit for that. 1017 00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:29,929 Give me a call. 1018 00:51:31,449 --> 00:51:33,369 I'll have you fill one out, okay? 1019 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,960 Any other new business? 1020 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,780 Well, our $10,000 deposit has been returned. 1021 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:45,699 Okay. 1022 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:47,019 So, we should know that. 1023 00:51:48,969 --> 00:51:53,050 Just a reminder that December 2nd is the runoff election. 1024 00:51:53,050 --> 00:51:54,329 I will make counters. 1025 00:51:55,269 --> 00:52:02,690 And especially being a JV election, I'm going to have two less people able to count. 1026 00:52:02,869 --> 00:52:03,550 Is it a Tuesday? 1027 00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:04,949 No, Monday. 1028 00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:05,610 Oh, Monday. 1029 00:52:06,389 --> 00:52:07,269 It's Monday. 1030 00:52:08,289 --> 00:52:08,650 Monday. 1031 00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:09,550 I'll be there. 1032 00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:16,050 It's going to be somewhat last minute, depending on the dog. 1033 00:52:16,429 --> 00:52:17,829 Well, really, it can be that. 1034 00:52:18,210 --> 00:52:18,969 It's only two minutes. 1035 00:52:18,989 --> 00:52:19,190 Yeah. 1036 00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:22,429 You and I can do it, Gloria. 1037 00:52:22,650 --> 00:52:23,369 We can do it. 1038 00:52:23,550 --> 00:52:24,110 We got it. 1039 00:52:24,110 --> 00:52:25,150 Just one more thing. 1040 00:52:25,489 --> 00:52:26,469 He's coming out. 1041 00:52:27,789 --> 00:52:29,050 I know, but I can't do it. 1042 00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:29,530 You probably can do it on that phone. 1043 00:52:30,190 --> 00:52:30,769 Not there yet. 1044 00:52:31,230 --> 00:52:31,929 You can call me, too. 1045 00:52:31,949 --> 00:52:33,250 She's working up at the dog. 1046 00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:33,389 Yeah. 1047 00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:36,630 So, Connie can't do it. 1048 00:52:36,789 --> 00:52:38,829 I was going to say, does Connie can't do it? 1049 00:52:39,309 --> 00:52:39,670 Okay. 1050 00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:42,710 I'll ask my wife tonight. 1051 00:52:42,909 --> 00:52:43,690 I might be able to volunteer. 1052 00:52:44,070 --> 00:52:45,670 Tina, supposedly, right? 1053 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:46,130 I'll ask. 1054 00:52:46,389 --> 00:52:47,530 I probably could. 1055 00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:49,449 What time did they start counting? 1056 00:52:49,630 --> 00:52:50,750 I probably could do it, too. 1057 00:52:50,889 --> 00:52:51,389 It's just a few minutes. 1058 00:52:51,389 --> 00:52:52,769 Right, like at 7. 1059 00:52:52,769 --> 00:52:54,610 Right, like at 8, 8, 9, 10, 11. 1060 00:52:54,610 --> 00:52:55,190 No, 7. 1061 00:52:55,489 --> 00:52:58,269 Well, 7 is the end of the poll, right? 1062 00:52:58,510 --> 00:53:00,170 I don't think we hit that right away. 1063 00:53:00,530 --> 00:53:01,190 I'll be here. 1064 00:53:01,449 --> 00:53:02,550 I don't think I need volunteers. 1065 00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:04,010 I think I want to stick with the words. 1066 00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:04,369 Okay. 1067 00:53:05,389 --> 00:53:06,110 So, maybe. 1068 00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:08,489 If anything changes, let me know. 1069 00:53:08,769 --> 00:53:09,710 Maybe Deb will be able to do it. 1070 00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:09,909 Yeah. 1071 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:11,150 And then Deb and I can. 1072 00:53:11,150 --> 00:53:11,610 We can pick you up in March. 1073 00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:14,170 We can knock it out. 1074 00:53:14,170 --> 00:53:16,269 We can knock his words out of the park. 1075 00:53:16,269 --> 00:53:17,309 We're experience counters. 1076 00:53:17,409 --> 00:53:17,550 Yes. 1077 00:53:18,250 --> 00:53:19,030 So, we'll just. 1078 00:53:20,010 --> 00:53:21,210 And we got Kurt, too. 1079 00:53:21,389 --> 00:53:22,010 Don't laugh. 1080 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:23,329 It's a hard job. 1081 00:53:23,329 --> 00:53:24,250 If you have a. 1082 00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:24,670 Yeah. 1083 00:53:24,670 --> 00:53:24,989 Yeah. 1084 00:53:25,489 --> 00:53:27,489 Hashtag five. 1085 00:53:27,489 --> 00:53:27,789 Hashtag five. 1086 00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:30,050 You don't know how to add. 1087 00:53:30,050 --> 00:53:31,989 Well, I'll read it. 1088 00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:32,730 Okay. 1089 00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:34,710 I'll count the cards. 1090 00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:35,449 Make sure it's right. 1091 00:53:35,449 --> 00:53:36,050 All right. 1092 00:53:36,269 --> 00:53:36,989 No, I'm not. 1093 00:53:37,469 --> 00:53:37,789 Okay. 1094 00:53:37,969 --> 00:53:39,630 I have another new business. 1095 00:53:40,110 --> 00:53:41,869 We're getting to the end of the year. 1096 00:53:41,949 --> 00:53:43,170 We're going to be starting budgets. 1097 00:53:43,429 --> 00:53:46,269 Do we want to have employee review? 1098 00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:48,989 We shouldn't start moving. 1099 00:53:49,409 --> 00:53:49,570 Yeah. 1100 00:53:49,570 --> 00:53:50,050 I hate waiting. 1101 00:53:50,329 --> 00:53:50,750 I know. 1102 00:53:50,929 --> 00:53:54,329 We shouldn't wait until January because that doesn't count Gloria. 1103 00:53:54,329 --> 00:53:54,969 I would. 1104 00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:55,469 I would. 1105 00:53:55,489 --> 00:54:01,489 I would like an hour before the meeting on Thursday because my Thursday is already shopped. 1106 00:54:01,489 --> 00:54:03,489 So, I might as well just do it on. 1107 00:54:03,489 --> 00:54:04,489 Okay. 1108 00:54:04,489 --> 00:54:09,780 So, let's figure and set something up for the next meeting. 1109 00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:10,780 Is that December? 1110 00:54:10,780 --> 00:54:13,780 We're going to have two in December. 1111 00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:19,909 And then in January, December, it's probably every week we're working on budgets and counting 1112 00:54:19,909 --> 00:54:20,909 and all that. 1113 00:54:20,909 --> 00:54:21,909 December 5th. 1114 00:54:21,909 --> 00:54:23,909 When's your first meeting in December? 1115 00:54:23,909 --> 00:54:24,909 5 and 9-10. 1116 00:54:24,909 --> 00:54:25,909 5 and 9-10. 1117 00:54:25,909 --> 00:54:28,059 So, whoever can come that night. 1118 00:54:28,059 --> 00:54:29,059 An hour early? 1119 00:54:29,059 --> 00:54:30,059 Yeah. 1120 00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:31,059 Just an hour early. 1121 00:54:31,059 --> 00:54:32,059 5 o'clock. 1122 00:54:32,059 --> 00:54:33,059 Yep. 1123 00:54:33,059 --> 00:54:34,059 December 5th, 5 o'clock. 1124 00:54:34,059 --> 00:54:35,349 Employee review. 1125 00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:36,349 Okay. 1126 00:54:36,349 --> 00:54:37,349 We'll start them. 1127 00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:38,349 And the first person that shows up gets treated better than the last person. 1128 00:54:38,349 --> 00:54:39,349 So, that would give them incentive to show up. 1129 00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:40,349 Well, I would think that the last one would be in a hurry to get him out. 1130 00:54:40,349 --> 00:54:41,349 So, say 50% raise out. 1131 00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:42,349 No raises this year. 1132 00:54:42,349 --> 00:54:43,349 10-4. 1133 00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:44,349 10-4. 1134 00:54:44,349 --> 00:54:45,349 10-4. 1135 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:46,349 10-4. 1136 00:54:46,349 --> 00:54:47,349 10-4. 1137 00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:48,349 10-4. 1138 00:54:48,349 --> 00:54:49,510 10-4. 1139 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:50,510 10-4. 1140 00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:51,510 10-4. 1141 00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:52,510 10-4. 1142 00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:53,510 10-4. 1143 00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:54,510 10-4. 1144 00:54:54,510 --> 00:54:55,510 10-4. 1145 00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:56,510 10-4. 1146 00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:57,510 10-4. 1147 00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:58,510 10-4. 1148 00:54:58,510 --> 00:54:59,510 10-4. 1149 00:54:59,510 --> 00:55:00,510 10-4. 1150 00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:01,510 10-4. 1151 00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:02,510 10-4. 1152 00:55:02,510 --> 00:55:03,510 10-4. 1153 00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:04,510 10-4. 1154 00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:05,510 10-4. 1155 00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:06,510 10-4. 1156 00:55:06,510 --> 00:55:07,510 10-4. 1157 00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:08,510 10-4. 1158 00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:09,510 10-4. 1159 00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:10,510 10-4. 1160 00:55:10,510 --> 00:55:11,510 10-4. 1161 00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:12,510 10-4. 1162 00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:13,510 10-4. 1163 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:14,510 10-4. 1164 00:55:14,510 --> 00:55:15,510 Okay. 1165 00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:16,539 I'd like to see an open question, please. 1166 00:55:16,539 --> 00:55:17,539 Okay. 1167 00:55:17,539 --> 00:55:18,539 So, excuse me. 1168 00:55:18,539 --> 00:55:19,539 What? 1169 00:55:19,539 --> 00:55:20,539 No. 1170 00:55:20,539 --> 00:55:21,539 What are you saying? 1171 00:55:21,539 --> 00:55:22,539 What? 1172 00:55:22,539 --> 00:55:23,570 We want to hear your opinion. 1173 00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:24,570 Can we hear your opinion? 1174 00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:25,570 Okay. 1175 00:55:25,570 --> 00:55:26,570 Thank you. 1176 00:55:26,570 --> 00:55:28,610 There's a motion to adjourn. 1177 00:55:28,610 --> 00:55:29,750 There's a motion on the table. 1178 00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:33,679 Right now, everybody's stopped during the meeting. 1179 00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:35,880 Make sure we're getting the minutes right. 1180 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,480 Oh, fuck. 1181 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,480 No, we're going to get it adjourned. 1182 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,480 OK. 1183 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,480 Yeah, make sure you get the minutes right this time. 1184 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:43,980 Why not? 1185 00:55:43,980 --> 00:55:45,059 I've got so much stuff to say right here. 1186 00:55:45,059 --> 00:55:45,719 You've got a new position. 1187 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,059 Match your arm. 1188 00:55:47,059 --> 00:55:48,519 Hey, there's a motion on the table. 1189 00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:49,219 Point of order. 1190 00:55:49,219 --> 00:55:49,980 I've got a motion. 1191 00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:52,780 You can't cut me off from the vote. 1192 00:55:52,780 --> 00:55:54,119 Come on, John. 1193 00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:54,980 Oh, Dan's not here. 1194 00:55:54,980 --> 00:56:01,280 I'll take your motion to adjourn the meeting. 1195 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,519 You didn't even say anything. 1196 00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:03,019 No. 1197 00:56:03,019 --> 00:56:03,679 Thanks for coming. 1198 00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:04,179 I know. 1199 00:56:04,179 --> 00:56:06,059 Yeah, no problem.