1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,879 by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address you will notice that all our 2 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:10,640 meetings are recorded and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes visitors are welcome 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,000 and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic discussions will be held 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,519 in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others select board members present are mike 5 00:00:21,519 --> 00:00:29,980 them all that's right oh nancy buchika john dunn will there be any adding of items that can't wait 6 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:36,140 until next meeting or removing items from tonight's agenda uh yeah i came from the media to 7 00:00:36,140 --> 00:00:39,820 ask a question to select board and i was told this is the appropriate time to address you guys is 8 00:00:39,820 --> 00:00:46,219 that is that true yes but i'll do it under hearing of visitors oh sure will there be any adjustments 9 00:00:46,219 --> 00:00:51,710 to the agenda such as changing the order of items no i just have some additional correspondence 10 00:00:52,270 --> 00:00:59,950 okay and just to remind everyone that uh jeb is recording the meeting and it'll be on his youtube 11 00:01:01,179 --> 00:01:10,299 site oh yeah youtube site all right with your hammer oh okay uh hearing of visitors 12 00:01:11,019 --> 00:01:17,900 yes sir hi i'm a visitor my name is josh landis i'm from wmc news josh landis l-a-n-d-e-s here's 13 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:21,819 a card for you and i'm making a recording as well just so that you guys know um i'm 14 00:01:21,819 --> 00:01:21,980 here 15 00:01:22,060 --> 00:01:26,939 because i'm sorry w-a-m-c news for where from uh i'm based out of pittsfield massachusetts okay 16 00:01:26,939 --> 00:01:32,939 yeah so i was trying to contact under the select board to ask about the resignation of your school 17 00:01:32,939 --> 00:01:37,180 principal you sent out a message to the community that was very explicit about his experience in 18 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:40,299 stanford and i was interested to hear if the select board has a response to that 19 00:01:42,219 --> 00:01:48,620 not this is not anything to do with select board the school and the select board town are 20 00:01:49,180 --> 00:01:51,579 separate so you would have to ask the select board we 21 00:01:51,579 --> 00:01:56,780 or school board oh yes school board let me ask you just in the capacity of like you know you 22 00:01:56,780 --> 00:02:01,980 guys are leaders in your community and represented to some degree of stanford uh in this message um 23 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:07,819 randy uh the camera was last thing i believe but he talked about the feeling of being experience 24 00:02:07,819 --> 00:02:11,020 experiencing prejudice or homophobia in stanford and i was interested in your 25 00:02:11,020 --> 00:02:17,819 thoughts on that as people who represent the community not as far as i know okay so direct 26 00:02:17,819 --> 00:02:21,580 your question to mr dunall i was going through your social media today and your attitudes about 27 00:02:22,539 --> 00:02:27,500 the state of the world and the status of the state in the world has really been incredibly 28 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:30,219 discredited i suppose you can see a lot of the issues that you're seeing in the schools are 29 00:02:30,219 --> 00:02:34,219 well expressed in that format i was interested with that in mind given that you seem to be 30 00:02:34,219 --> 00:02:38,620 comfort comfortable talking about that publicly in your personal life as interested in your real 31 00:02:38,620 --> 00:02:44,129 capacity as a stanford leader does that represent the community's feelings about that community 32 00:02:44,129 --> 00:02:49,650 i follow the state laws in the constitution of the united states as a select board member 33 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:53,729 okay well essentially because you posted about your concerns about the gay agenda and in schools on 34 00:02:53,889 --> 00:02:56,509 given that the school's principal left the community 35 00:02:56,509 --> 00:02:58,210 citing that concern, and that's something 36 00:02:58,210 --> 00:02:59,409 you've put your name to in public. 37 00:02:59,409 --> 00:03:01,150 I mean, should it be, if you can speak to that. 38 00:03:01,150 --> 00:03:05,189 No, I have no comment about that at all. 39 00:03:06,090 --> 00:03:08,009 I've met with the principal many times, 40 00:03:08,009 --> 00:03:09,330 been at meetings many times, 41 00:03:09,330 --> 00:03:14,090 and have not seen any problems at all with myself or him. 42 00:03:14,090 --> 00:03:14,930 Okay. 43 00:03:14,930 --> 00:03:17,110 We've actually interacted very well. 44 00:03:17,110 --> 00:03:18,569 Gotcha, like I just just broadly, 45 00:03:18,569 --> 00:03:20,729 like it's a large statement to make about the community, 46 00:03:20,729 --> 00:03:22,069 and I just wanted to give the opportunity 47 00:03:22,069 --> 00:03:24,150 to the leaders of the community to respond to that. 48 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:25,750 Are you saying essentially you don't have much 49 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:28,900 of a comment on that accusation, or? 50 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:31,580 No, because this doesn't involve the town 51 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:33,300 and what we're here for. 52 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,840 We're here for the town and select board members. 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,340 Right, and I guess I'm arguing 54 00:03:37,340 --> 00:03:40,060 as someone who covers dozens and dozens of communities, 55 00:03:40,060 --> 00:03:42,120 you guys are the leaders of the town, 56 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,800 so I suppose yes, bureaucratically there's a distinction, 57 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,500 but as its representative, you feel like 58 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:49,759 it's a school department issue? 59 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:51,259 Yes, yes. 60 00:03:53,729 --> 00:03:55,210 Yeah? Okay. 61 00:03:55,210 --> 00:03:56,409 Gotcha, okay, thank you guys very much. 62 00:03:56,409 --> 00:03:57,250 I really appreciate it. 63 00:03:57,250 --> 00:03:58,289 Okay. 64 00:03:58,289 --> 00:03:58,810 Bye. 65 00:03:58,810 --> 00:04:01,360 Thank you. 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,460 Any other visitors, comments? 67 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:07,240 Okay. 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,539 Reading and approval of records. 69 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:09,400 Bill, bill. 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,479 Oh. 71 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,860 I'm looking over there. 72 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:15,259 I wanted to add financing 73 00:04:15,259 --> 00:04:18,600 of the new fire engine to the agenda. 74 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,199 Yes, Laurie gave me the bills. 75 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:20,800 Okay. 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,879 Yeah. 77 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,350 Okay. 78 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:28,810 Reading and approval of records and orders from last meeting. 79 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:29,089 Yes, I do. 80 00:04:29,089 --> 00:04:29,329 Yeah. 81 00:04:29,329 --> 00:04:36,620 Can I have a motion to accept the minutes as approved? 82 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:49,850 I made the motion that we approve the meeting minutes from June 20th. 83 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:50,990 Can I have a second? 84 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:51,790 I'll second. 85 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:53,269 All in favor? 86 00:04:53,709 --> 00:04:54,029 Aye. 87 00:04:54,350 --> 00:04:55,810 Okay, thank you. 88 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:00,740 Road conditions, where would you like to start, Dave? 89 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:03,000 Do you want to go with the FEMA, the Class 2? 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,560 Yeah, I'll always start with what's on the agenda and go from there. 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:06,860 Okay. 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,379 FEMA subgrant agreement for Klondike Road damages. 93 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,180 So that, I just wanted to let you know, 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,779 has made it through every FEMA hurdle that they can throw at us, 95 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:23,120 and it was time to actually sign the grant agreement. 96 00:05:23,819 --> 00:05:29,199 This is only for the Klondike culvert mitigation piece, 97 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:32,860 which is only one road out of all the ones that were damaged. 98 00:05:33,220 --> 00:05:39,980 The total loss for this one road was $11,602. 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:46,519 So because we don't have our hazard mitigation plan finalized, 100 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:51,920 they're only going to pay 75% of that, which is $8,701. 101 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:59,819 And our portion would be $2,900 and some change. 102 00:05:59,819 --> 00:06:04,310 The other two projects, Charlie and I, 103 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:04,649 we're going to have to go through them. 104 00:06:04,649 --> 00:06:04,730 So we're going to have to go through them. 105 00:06:04,730 --> 00:06:04,910 So we're going to have to go through them. 106 00:06:04,910 --> 00:06:05,009 So we're going to have to go through them. 107 00:06:05,009 --> 00:06:06,569 Ross called me again today. 108 00:06:06,730 --> 00:06:08,490 I came in and had to call him back. 109 00:06:09,529 --> 00:06:11,329 They want more GPS coordinates. 110 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:14,009 We gave them just one coordinate. 111 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:15,949 Here's the damage. 112 00:06:16,689 --> 00:06:20,310 But the way he worked out the math of the dimensions, 113 00:06:20,670 --> 00:06:25,750 it's long enough that now he wants a beginning coordinate and an end coordinate. 114 00:06:27,860 --> 00:06:29,980 And I don't know, when you look at Google Maps, 115 00:06:30,019 --> 00:06:33,920 if I can get that specific when you're looking at, like, 300 feet. 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,160 You can't just go by the length. 117 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,019 Where is Charles anyway? 118 00:06:38,019 --> 00:06:44,720 He's from down south, but they fly him up to work on FEMA projects in Vermont. 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,160 So they're putting him up in a hotel and he's just got . . . 120 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,839 He should stop here and look and go around and that would be a whole lot easier. 121 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,839 He did it himself. 122 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:58,839 The GPS coordinates are going to be more accurate than a tape measure? 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,060 No. 124 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:02,060 Well, that's the hard part. 125 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:06,100 And, you know, he estimated a certain width and length and depth, so . . . 126 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:12,230 So, you know, all we can do is now try and accommodate the numbers and . . . 127 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:13,230 I don't . . . 128 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:14,230 Go with his numbers. 129 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:16,230 They want us to hire, like, an engineer and . . . 130 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:17,230 Oh, Lord. 131 00:07:17,230 --> 00:07:18,230 He's just standing there with your phone and . . . 132 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:19,230 For a small town . . . 133 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:20,230 Right. 134 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:21,230 Hire an engineer for 20,000 . . . 135 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:22,230 Yeah, we're, like, crazy. 136 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:23,230 Like, just . . . 137 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:31,230 They have informally asked for the information and if we can get it to them in the next couple of days and it works, it'll be good. 138 00:07:31,230 --> 00:07:35,230 If not, it becomes a formal request and it may involve another . . . 139 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:42,329 Site visit team and an inspection team to determine all of this and . . . 140 00:07:42,329 --> 00:07:45,329 I'd rather not go through all that, but . . . 141 00:07:45,329 --> 00:07:47,329 Do the best you can with them and send it and . . . 142 00:07:47,329 --> 00:07:49,329 Does anybody have a handheld GPS? 143 00:07:49,329 --> 00:07:53,089 Or off of their phone? 144 00:07:53,089 --> 00:07:54,089 Just . . . 145 00:07:54,089 --> 00:07:57,089 Yeah, I'm not too familiar, but I'm sure you can use your phone. 146 00:07:57,089 --> 00:07:58,089 Download . . . 147 00:07:58,089 --> 00:07:59,089 You can download . . . 148 00:07:59,089 --> 00:08:01,089 Pick the number, double it, and let them argue. 149 00:08:01,089 --> 00:08:02,089 Yeah, like . . . 150 00:08:02,089 --> 00:08:03,089 Do a quick . . . 151 00:08:03,089 --> 00:08:04,089 . . . 152 00:08:04,089 --> 00:08:05,089 Guaranteed, if it's too much, they'll come back to you. 153 00:08:05,089 --> 00:08:06,089 Yeah, that's . . . 154 00:08:06,089 --> 00:08:07,089 Yeah, that's what I figured. 155 00:08:07,089 --> 00:08:08,089 Right. 156 00:08:08,089 --> 00:08:09,089 Well, that's what I'm worried about. 157 00:08:09,089 --> 00:08:13,089 If it doesn't make the right yardage, we're going to be in trouble. 158 00:08:13,089 --> 00:08:15,089 Well, we know how much yardage went into it. 159 00:08:15,089 --> 00:08:16,089 Did you go backwards? 160 00:08:16,089 --> 00:08:17,089 That's right. 161 00:08:17,089 --> 00:08:18,089 That's what we read. 162 00:08:18,089 --> 00:08:22,089 I got guys who can't read a tape measure, so, I mean, that's just the way it is. 163 00:08:22,089 --> 00:08:24,089 Have they sent you a number? 164 00:08:24,089 --> 00:08:29,089 Have they sent you a parameter that they're like, we think it's this, but do you think it's something different? 165 00:08:29,089 --> 00:08:31,089 Because otherwise, just go with theirs. 166 00:08:31,089 --> 00:08:34,090 Yeah, they're really just trying to set us up to fail. 167 00:08:34,090 --> 00:08:35,090 Oh, wow. 168 00:08:35,090 --> 00:08:36,090 They're trying to get . . . 169 00:08:36,090 --> 00:08:40,090 From what I can tell, they've come at us, I don't know how many times, with the same questions, 170 00:08:40,090 --> 00:08:44,090 and then they want us to measure holes that don't exist anymore. 171 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:51,090 And they weren't even, you know, we're talking about where the water was down the road and zigzagged and was deeper in one spot. 172 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:55,090 They wanted to come up with a volume for a hole that doesn't exist. 173 00:08:55,090 --> 00:08:59,090 I can't go measure it anymore, which they've argued, and they seem to agree. 174 00:08:59,090 --> 00:09:05,090 Because what they wanted to do was audit us on our information. 175 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:09,090 And I can't give them an accurate number at this point. 176 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:17,090 So he created his own numbers of, well, it took, you know, four loads of gravel and this and that, 177 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:22,090 so that must fill a hole this long by this wide and this deep. 178 00:09:22,090 --> 00:09:28,090 And then anything over 200 feet long, you can't just give one GPS coordinate for the sensor. 179 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:31,090 Now you've got to actually give the beginning and the end, which . . . 180 00:09:31,090 --> 00:09:32,090 How did you know? 181 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:33,090 I can tell them. 182 00:09:33,090 --> 00:09:34,090 It's just . . . 183 00:09:34,090 --> 00:09:36,090 It's not just the top of the gravel, it's what went in the hole. There's your number. 184 00:09:36,090 --> 00:09:37,090 That's right. That's right. 185 00:09:37,090 --> 00:09:38,090 Oh, right. 186 00:09:38,090 --> 00:09:39,090 And work it back for them. 187 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:42,090 You just can't get more accurate than that. It's a trust issue, I guess. 188 00:09:42,090 --> 00:09:43,090 Work it back. 189 00:09:43,090 --> 00:09:44,090 Yeah. 190 00:09:44,090 --> 00:09:46,090 So do the best you can, Lori and Dave. 191 00:09:46,090 --> 00:09:47,090 And . . . 192 00:09:47,090 --> 00:09:50,090 Our plan, didn't we finalize that, has . . . 193 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:58,090 No, she's coming next select board meeting to go over the plan and . . . 194 00:09:58,090 --> 00:10:01,340 We've done our part. 195 00:10:01,340 --> 00:10:02,340 Yes. 196 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:03,340 Yeah. 197 00:10:03,340 --> 00:10:04,340 And it's been approved by the state. 198 00:10:04,340 --> 00:10:06,340 It's been approved by the state, so we have to adopt it. 199 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:07,940 Yeah. 200 00:10:07,940 --> 00:10:10,990 Okay. 201 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:11,990 Is that the step, Lori? 202 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:12,990 That's what . . . 203 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:13,990 So that's it for the FEMA. 204 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:14,990 We will submit as much as we can. 205 00:10:14,990 --> 00:10:15,990 The other one, we were approved for the class two structures and roadway grant that Dave 206 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:17,179 and I submitted last, maybe, fall, a $200,000 project. 207 00:10:17,179 --> 00:10:18,179 So they will pay $160,000. 208 00:10:18,179 --> 00:10:19,179 We'll have to pay the other, like, 40-ish. 209 00:10:19,179 --> 00:10:20,250 And then we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 210 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:21,700 So we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 211 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:22,700 So we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 212 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:23,700 And then we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 213 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:24,700 And then we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 214 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:25,700 And then we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 215 00:10:38,370 --> 00:10:39,370 And then we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 216 00:10:39,370 --> 00:10:40,370 So we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 217 00:10:40,370 --> 00:10:41,370 And then we we'll have to pay the other $100,000. 218 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:42,370 That's the agreement. 219 00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:43,370 Um, that's the agreement. 220 00:10:43,370 --> 00:10:44,370 This grant agreement will have to be signed. 221 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:45,370 And where is that? 222 00:10:45,370 --> 00:10:46,370 In the opinion. 223 00:10:46,370 --> 00:10:47,370 We have one of these things. 224 00:10:47,370 --> 00:10:48,370 This is . . . 225 00:10:48,370 --> 00:10:49,370 It's for a KNR and ChIP deal for East Road. 226 00:10:49,370 --> 00:10:50,370 East Road. 227 00:10:50,370 --> 00:10:51,370 It's the class two, so it kind of has to be . . . 228 00:10:51,370 --> 00:10:52,370 East Road. 229 00:10:52,370 --> 00:10:53,370 Oh, yeah. 230 00:10:53,370 --> 00:10:54,370 Are these matches, can we use, uh, labor hours, also? 231 00:10:54,370 --> 00:10:55,370 We could, but in this particular project, we're really not going to have any labor 232 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:56,370 hours. 233 00:10:56,370 --> 00:10:57,370 Oh, good. 234 00:10:57,370 --> 00:10:58,370 Okay. 235 00:10:58,370 --> 00:10:59,370 Can I make a motion to accept it? 236 00:10:59,370 --> 00:11:00,370 Okay. 237 00:11:00,370 --> 00:11:13,360 can i make a motion to accept it okay i'll second favor uh we'll have to run before after next 238 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:35,519 okay um dave this is kind of oh this is old business from last meeting uh we talked about 239 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:42,190 the trees at the top of the lane in east road they did not get blown down in this storm 240 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:53,440 but um i guess i was a little confused on the letter of what we were writing to the people so 241 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:59,740 i just wanted to see what the board what we decided i thought the board was going to send 242 00:11:59,740 --> 00:12:05,600 a letter to the owners saying it's a liability for these trees you should have them removed 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:05,659 you should have them removed 244 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:12,159 is that so we didn't send the letter yet no because dave had another impression that 245 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:18,639 and i thought oh i don't think so we're improving they're not dead trees right they are the land 246 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:24,940 owner's property but they're not dead and we're really trying to improve the road when i go out 247 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:30,019 to improve a road and try to widen the section of road we cut the trees we don't ask them to 248 00:12:30,019 --> 00:12:37,149 cut the trees i think in this case they're healthy old maple trees where we want to 249 00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:42,830 cut them down and improve the road for safety reasons well is that the dead one that's on top 250 00:12:42,830 --> 00:12:47,509 of the lane there on the right well there's a stump but we're not we didn't add that we i'm 251 00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:58,039 that's going anyway oh okay these are the other two on heading north okay so i don't i think if 252 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:04,210 we ask somebody else to pay to take down the trees that are perfectly fine we're trying to 253 00:13:04,210 --> 00:13:08,789 want to do it we may get some resistance on us even doing it after i mean they may have 254 00:13:08,950 --> 00:13:17,230 some bite i mean they're public shade trees in a way i mean they're old they're landmarks i would 255 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:21,789 say almost i've seen the trees they're not going to be like anything that's going to be cheap to 256 00:13:21,789 --> 00:13:30,309 no take down no so with a mirror with a mirror in place on in a certain area coming up on from 257 00:13:30,309 --> 00:13:35,289 the lane over here would that help yeah because that'll be a lot cheaper i'm here i'm here you 258 00:13:35,289 --> 00:13:38,409 know some places when there's a blind spot they put a mirror in place so you 259 00:13:39,139 --> 00:13:45,350 know that might be a cheaper alternative than removing those big maple trees with the permission 260 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:54,220 of whoever owns the tree to put the mirror on so how do you want to proceed then i i well 261 00:13:54,220 --> 00:14:12,220 the stump is the biggest problem when i went up there i know you've got to get by the stump left 262 00:14:12,820 --> 00:14:17,620 it was bad i would say once this dump's gone you're going to try to look left and go i can't 263 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:23,480 see it i mean i think it's just a lot of times when you're pulling out of there i've had it with 264 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:32,659 my plow truck especially and i'm already in the intersection i'd really like to see him go i'd 265 00:14:32,659 --> 00:14:37,299 like to just see write a letter and say we're taking them down okay i haven't taken down i just 266 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:42,820 i think so don't ask us just say we will be doing this see if there's any resistance and then i would 267 00:14:43,139 --> 00:14:48,019 say we're going to be taking these trees down and it's within our right yeah it's within the right 268 00:14:48,019 --> 00:14:53,700 away we wanted you to be aware of it in case you have any objections or you want the board or 269 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:59,779 something along those lines okay i mean we're perfectly legal to do it but we you kind of have 270 00:14:59,779 --> 00:15:04,580 to fight it to be honest with you if the town came and asked me if i wanted to cut them down 271 00:15:04,580 --> 00:15:10,480 and pay for i'd say no right yeah you want to cut you might not get as much resistance 272 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,679 we're it's going to be a back and forth thing if we ask this person pay and i don't speak for it 273 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:23,799 but i'm guessing he's going to tell us no why wouldn't they they're not dead they don't see 274 00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:33,110 how they're a liability to her really i mean i was just treating it like i assumed it was like 275 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:38,629 the chicken incident you know the chickens are going to cause an accident and uh this would 276 00:15:38,629 --> 00:15:44,070 sure they would come back to you that didn't go well either create a song and dance 277 00:15:45,669 --> 00:15:53,669 under and any of us have been around some of those oh there's a lot of i mean we really we 278 00:15:53,669 --> 00:15:58,629 really need a good tree policy you know i said last week but we're you know especially in the 279 00:15:58,629 --> 00:16:08,149 situations we're in now i mean there's no no old ordinance buried deep in the archives lori did 280 00:16:09,029 --> 00:16:14,950 reach out to other towns and one i guess she got one back and it's like the trees in the park and 281 00:16:15,669 --> 00:16:25,970 it was nothing to do with us it's kind of more like a big city yeah so uh i guess if you can 282 00:16:25,970 --> 00:16:40,259 revise the letter i can well maybe it's yeah to say we will take it down when we can okay what 283 00:16:40,259 --> 00:16:47,860 else dave so i think everybody's aware of the storm we had and uh some of the damage that we 284 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:51,379 suffered as far as trees there's a lot of memories 285 00:16:52,179 --> 00:16:58,159 there's a lot of trees that are hung up you're gonna require more equipment than what i had 286 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:09,920 i would say a bucket truck um last summer eight weeks we spent repairing flood work i mean i don't 287 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:17,190 know how much this summer i gotta get caught up on i've got culverts and ditching and to stop and 288 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:22,230 try to clean up all this mess at this point it's just we're gonna end up spending money repairing 289 00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:24,609 roads because i didn't get to the road i didn't get to the road i didn't get to the road i didn't 290 00:17:24,609 --> 00:17:31,039 know the work i needed to do so i'm suggesting that we hire somebody to clean some of this stuff 291 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:38,740 up how far off the road do you have to clear this debris i mean you don't have to if this well 292 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:42,420 the garage i mean you could leave it if you guys want to leave it it's out of the 293 00:17:43,970 --> 00:17:48,769 travel part of the road oh yeah you're going to hit it with a plow some of them some of it 294 00:17:48,769 --> 00:17:55,009 is hanging up it's dangerous you know right some people come and start cutting it and they get hurt 295 00:17:56,140 --> 00:18:05,319 Well, I would say if it's a company, I mean, just high-end people, if we've got a bunch of wood on the side of the road, are going to eventually come out and cut it for firewood. 296 00:18:05,539 --> 00:18:07,559 I mean, technically, it's the landowners. 297 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,420 Right, and there are people already doing that. 298 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:09,640 Yeah. 299 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:16,579 So, you know, somebody just starts going and cutting wood on the side of the road, and they're kind of stealing in a way. 300 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:21,539 I mean, where, if I'm going to take the wood, I'm supposed to ask the property owner. 301 00:18:21,539 --> 00:18:28,599 But, Dave, what I wonder, now, say the stump is 30 feet off the road, you wouldn't go all the way back there. 302 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,140 You would just cut that for our safe passage. 303 00:18:31,140 --> 00:18:33,299 I want to get back over mowing, more or less. 304 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:33,640 Yeah. 305 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:36,420 You know, so we can continue mowing and pushing snow. 306 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,240 Right. 307 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:44,619 You know, it's probably not going to be cleared all the way, you know, to the full extent of the right way, but the usable part of the right way, anyway. 308 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:51,099 But what I'm concerned about is there's a lot of these trees that are very hazardous trees that we don't have the equipment. 309 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,680 We don't have the firewood. 310 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:51,799 We don't have the truck. 311 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:52,700 No. 312 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:55,140 We don't have to try to hook to some of these and pull them down. 313 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,109 And, you know, it's just, some of them are broke. 314 00:18:58,190 --> 00:19:01,630 I mean, they're broke off and bent over at 20 feet. 315 00:19:01,789 --> 00:19:05,230 I mean, there's no, you know, it's not just trees. 316 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:12,579 Do you, have you got any estimates under how many trees? 317 00:19:13,599 --> 00:19:14,039 No. 318 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:19,279 I mean, I wanted to get your thoughts and get some direction for you before I wasted my time. 319 00:19:19,460 --> 00:19:21,859 Because if you, because I can tell you right now that. 320 00:19:21,859 --> 00:19:27,200 Between mud season and a little bit of gravel we put down, I have no money left for summer maintenance. 321 00:19:28,180 --> 00:19:28,539 So. 322 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:30,839 A lot of trees. 323 00:19:31,380 --> 00:19:31,900 It's a lot. 324 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,680 It's a big mess. 325 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:33,279 It's going to take. 326 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:33,619 Yeah, it's a mess. 327 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,579 I mean, for Michael and I to have to take it on, it's going to take us a while. 328 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:45,140 We don't have any kind of chipper that's, you know, maybe we've got a small one that was on the back of a cove and that really doesn't hardly work. 329 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:47,859 It'll take the rest of the summer with that. 330 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,839 Would, I know Dave said he doesn't have money. 331 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,420 We don't have a lot. 332 00:19:52,420 --> 00:19:55,819 We don't have a lot in our budget, but would it be worth using some of the ARPA money from? 333 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,140 How much ARPA money do we have left? 334 00:19:59,279 --> 00:20:00,740 I mean, it seems like a year to have a lot. 335 00:20:02,180 --> 00:20:02,579 113. 336 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:03,599 But did we? 337 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:07,220 Would it be overly optimistic to have some kind of money in the store? 338 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:07,940 Well, we. 339 00:20:08,579 --> 00:20:09,380 We haven't. 340 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:12,859 We did reach out to Patrick Wilson from AOT. 341 00:20:14,769 --> 00:20:21,450 Don't quote me on this, but it's usually, I think, you have to go over 20% of what we consider our summer budget. 342 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:23,450 And it used to be a 60%. 343 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:25,109 40 split, 60 summer. 344 00:20:25,910 --> 00:20:27,470 It was 61 or 40 summer. 345 00:20:27,630 --> 00:20:30,269 So it makes us easier to qualify for it. 346 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:34,490 But I don't know if Lori's heard back from him. 347 00:20:34,609 --> 00:20:36,789 And I don't know if it will exceed that threshold. 348 00:20:36,910 --> 00:20:42,170 He did write us back and say this seems to be an isolated incident. 349 00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:51,829 Most of Bennington County was not hit hard for the values to reach probably what it needs to for Bennington County. 350 00:20:53,130 --> 00:20:54,460 We could. 351 00:20:54,779 --> 00:21:00,140 We could get in touch with FEMA and see if we qualify through FEMA. 352 00:21:01,539 --> 00:21:09,019 But he did say keep track of everything and that he would forward numbers to the Vermont Emergency Management Bureau. 353 00:21:09,019 --> 00:21:13,599 And if other people are sending in numbers that it could potentially grow. 354 00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:26,390 And when I remember the point of the Vermont emergency aid is for isolated incidences, because that's when it's not. 355 00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:27,450 That's when you go to FEMA. 356 00:21:27,630 --> 00:21:30,630 So we've used it before. 357 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:37,819 Can we take a lot of pictures and I think we've got to we can't wait for them. 358 00:21:37,819 --> 00:21:40,079 Yeah, no, we have to do it. 359 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:42,460 Yeah, take a lot of pictures. 360 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:47,460 Keep track of your time equipment like we do when we have to submit to FEMA. 361 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:51,750 Do you have companies in mind that you can call? 362 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:52,750 I don't know. 363 00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:53,750 With that equipment. 364 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:54,750 I mean, there's a lot of guys. 365 00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:56,750 I've seen one company in town. 366 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:57,750 I never dealt with them. 367 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:58,750 What's that? 368 00:21:58,750 --> 00:22:02,940 The Alpha Harbor guy across from Nancy. 369 00:22:02,940 --> 00:22:03,940 Yeah. 370 00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:05,940 Black Diamond was here. 371 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:06,940 Yeah, I saw them. 372 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:10,859 They're out of one. 373 00:22:10,859 --> 00:22:12,859 I've used Greater Heights before. 374 00:22:12,859 --> 00:22:14,859 Greater Heights came down? 375 00:22:14,859 --> 00:22:15,859 I've used Greater Heights before. 376 00:22:15,859 --> 00:22:16,859 They were pretty reasonable. 377 00:22:16,859 --> 00:22:19,859 I think they're the ones that took down the ones in the school here. 378 00:22:19,859 --> 00:22:22,470 They were pretty reasonable. 379 00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:27,329 Okay. 380 00:22:27,329 --> 00:22:30,190 Like it's a stretch kind of thing. 381 00:22:30,190 --> 00:22:31,190 We'll be meeting in two weeks. 382 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:32,190 This is one storm. 383 00:22:32,190 --> 00:22:33,190 We have another couple months of this. 384 00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:34,190 Another couple months of summer. 385 00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:35,190 And then you've got volume. 386 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:36,190 Right. 387 00:22:36,190 --> 00:22:37,190 That's why I really feel the need to get on some of my normal ditching culverts. 388 00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:38,190 I mean, at risk or answer, I've had the culverts for five years. 389 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:39,190 And I haven't had a chance to get there yet. 390 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:40,190 And you can drive up there. 391 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:41,190 You're driving over the culvert. 392 00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:42,190 They're out of the ground. 393 00:22:42,190 --> 00:22:43,190 Oh, I know. 394 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:44,190 When you're running like the bare minimum, you can't have anything go wrong. 395 00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:45,190 Yeah. 396 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:46,190 From a scheduling standpoint. 397 00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:47,190 Yeah. 398 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:48,190 And that's what we've been wanting for 10 years at least. 399 00:22:48,190 --> 00:22:49,190 Oh, I know. 400 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:50,190 When you're running like the bare minimum, you can't have anything go wrong. 401 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:51,190 Yeah. 402 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:52,190 From a scheduling standpoint. 403 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:53,190 Yeah. 404 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:54,190 And that's what we've been wanting for 10 years at least. 405 00:22:54,190 --> 00:23:08,890 Dave, so you would go around with whatever company you call, mark the trees, because 406 00:23:08,890 --> 00:23:09,890 we don't want them taking ... 407 00:23:09,890 --> 00:23:10,890 Yeah. 408 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:11,890 Yeah. 409 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:12,890 Yeah, yeah. 410 00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:13,890 Yeah. 411 00:23:13,890 --> 00:23:14,890 No, I understand that. 412 00:23:14,890 --> 00:23:15,890 I would say have them check the brush and the stuff that's in the right-of-way. 413 00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:16,890 I mean, we're not going on people's yards. 414 00:23:16,890 --> 00:23:17,890 Right. 415 00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:18,890 Right. 416 00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:19,890 Right. 417 00:23:19,890 --> 00:23:20,890 But the stuff that's in the right-of-way. 418 00:23:20,890 --> 00:23:21,890 And it's pretty obvious. 419 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:22,890 You go click lane. 420 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:23,890 Yeah. 421 00:23:23,890 --> 00:23:24,890 Click lane on both sides. 422 00:23:24,890 --> 00:23:25,890 Yes. 423 00:23:25,890 --> 00:23:26,890 It's not good. 424 00:23:26,890 --> 00:23:31,890 I've just pushed to make it convenient to get the road open. 425 00:23:31,890 --> 00:23:32,890 Yeah. 426 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:37,890 If this company that you do hire, if one of the homeowners says, hey, can you do mine? 427 00:23:37,890 --> 00:23:38,890 Get ours done first. 428 00:23:38,890 --> 00:23:39,890 And then they can go back. 429 00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:40,890 Yeah. 430 00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:41,890 Yeah. 431 00:23:41,890 --> 00:23:42,890 Don't be ... 432 00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:43,890 That stuff happens over paving too. 433 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:44,890 Yeah. 434 00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:45,890 People want their driveway paved. 435 00:23:45,890 --> 00:23:46,890 Sure. 436 00:23:46,890 --> 00:23:51,890 Typically, the companies won't even entertain it because they don't want to have that problem. 437 00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:52,890 Right. 438 00:23:52,890 --> 00:23:54,019 Yeah. 439 00:23:54,019 --> 00:24:01,180 Well, I don't know how the board feels, but I'd say, let's use the ARCA money, take that, 440 00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:08,529 and in the meantime, see if we qualify for this state emergency, they keep working on 441 00:24:08,529 --> 00:24:10,529 that, and then we can replace the money. 442 00:24:10,529 --> 00:24:13,529 Because I don't know where it's going to come from if we don't. 443 00:24:13,529 --> 00:24:19,529 So do you ... I mean, it's going to delay it some, but do you want me to get different 444 00:24:19,529 --> 00:24:23,529 prices from different, or do you guys want to pick somebody that ... I mean, when we 445 00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:25,529 did the trees in the parking lot, we just called ... 446 00:24:25,529 --> 00:24:32,650 I'd rather give you the permission to go, if you want to get three quotes, I don't think 447 00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:33,650 we need to have them come back. 448 00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:34,650 You're common sense that you're going to get the right guy. 449 00:24:34,650 --> 00:24:35,650 We've got to put a little faith in our workers. 450 00:24:35,650 --> 00:24:36,650 Right. 451 00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:37,650 Right. 452 00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:38,650 Two weeks, we can't wait. 453 00:24:38,650 --> 00:24:39,650 So I would say, if you say ... You might not even get anybody, David. 454 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:40,650 Right. 455 00:24:40,650 --> 00:24:41,650 Well, that's ... 456 00:24:41,650 --> 00:24:42,650 Other people ... 457 00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:43,650 The other issue is that I'm sure that anybody that's anybody is going to be tied up. 458 00:24:43,650 --> 00:24:44,650 Right. 459 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:45,650 So I'm just saying, if you know somebody that's going to be tied up ... 460 00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:46,650 Right. 461 00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:47,650 So I'm just saying, if you know somebody that's going to be tied up ... 462 00:24:47,650 --> 00:24:48,650 Right. 463 00:24:48,650 --> 00:24:50,650 So I'm just saying, if you know somebody that's going to be tied up ... 464 00:24:50,650 --> 00:24:53,029 You talk about what's happening to the那hlelar to get a price for��고 ... 465 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:54,029 Right. 466 00:24:54,029 --> 00:24:55,029 For crawling ... 467 00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:56,029 You talk about what's happening to the那hlelar to get a price forlectric to get a price 468 00:24:56,029 --> 00:24:57,029 ... 469 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:58,369 If you give them a call, the guy says, you know, yeah, I'll do it. 470 00:24:58,369 --> 00:24:59,369 I think we need to. 471 00:24:59,369 --> 00:25:00,369 I think we need to. 472 00:25:00,369 --> 00:25:03,869 I was thinking, the Greater Heights people we've used before, and this Nell 473 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:05,170 Fire guys lives in town, and so ... 474 00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:11,589 I don't mind if they don't live in a town, at all. 475 00:25:11,589 --> 00:25:17,559 So I think, get a price for maybe both of them, and so ... 476 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:18,559 Sure. 477 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:19,559 Yup, if you get a ... 478 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:20,559 When it comes ... 479 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:26,640 wants to work with and when they can come and work with your schedule and if for some reason 480 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,160 it seems like this ridiculous number i'm going to hold off and talk to you about it yeah yeah 481 00:25:34,619 --> 00:25:43,420 if it's 10 grand then like i don't know i don't know i was going to say that well it's usually 482 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:51,079 500 a tree i think normally around let's see a lot of these are you know use your common sense 483 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:55,720 and i'd be interested in taking a ride around with you and yeah giving you an idea of what it 484 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:04,170 might cost okay uh do we want to make a motion to do that and let's go with it i'll make a second 485 00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:08,730 when when are you available all in favor 486 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:28,779 i'm usually pretty close and not too far and if you can keep in touch with what's what's his name 487 00:26:28,779 --> 00:26:32,089 um who was the fellow 488 00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:43,920 that you talked to patrick wilson what else dave i think that's pretty much it 489 00:26:44,809 --> 00:26:49,210 we're going to start switching over to ditching and doing culverts the mulling was done we went 490 00:26:49,210 --> 00:26:55,930 around and did a bunch of regrading and some of the spots that had the wheel sacks the water 491 00:26:56,809 --> 00:27:02,490 and some washboards and did some bunch of chloride yeah so i was on the shirt road the shirt road 492 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:07,210 looked really nice looked like you might have just chlorinated it maybe within the last couple weeks 493 00:27:08,009 --> 00:27:18,559 the other day yeah it looks it looks nice um on roads we got an email from wade mercer from dlct 494 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:26,460 uh he would wants to know how we're proceeding with the suggestions he gave us uh there's a 495 00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:33,339 couple of them that are low priority medium priority if we could start picking away if you 496 00:27:33,339 --> 00:27:38,700 could start picking away i keep saying we but at least show them that we have good faith and we're 497 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:45,079 trying to do this so the email sounded like he came back but then he said if you already did 498 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:50,519 some of this let me know yeah and i was kind of confused to that where you're saying well here's 499 00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:56,839 my suggestions you didn't do any suggestions but if you did do suggestions let me know did he even 500 00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:01,480 come back and he doesn't even know he didn't do it right okay that's what i do i was like this 501 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:08,200 it didn't sound right yeah he did some suggestions that he had the last time you know some of them 502 00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:17,440 weeds um i don't know the last button press talk to the actual person but that that's the 503 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,759 point you know you hear me saying that you're a little curly looking my name is jeff you may 504 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:25,539 have heute let's leave ya here on y'all and bones angry myWorld it's gonna happen 505 00:28:25,539 --> 00:28:31,119 so that person that passes on the note that peter will give you is the people you've already 506 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,279 rescued from the museum they're supposed to pick the past hour but there's two winners 507 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,240 you've picked in order of anything that's here we're just talking about not 508 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,519 enough time and now we've got to do this yeah it's it's like the the railing i mean 509 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,480 okay, what am I going to do with Graham? 510 00:28:42,579 --> 00:28:43,700 What's going to make him happy? 511 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:45,980 You know, I can do it. 512 00:28:46,859 --> 00:28:48,000 That's not what I do. 513 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,839 So I've already done it before, 514 00:28:51,099 --> 00:28:53,630 and he was good with it, 515 00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:54,809 and now he's not good with it. 516 00:28:56,089 --> 00:28:58,750 Sometimes I feel like it's a waste of time. 517 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:59,950 These are suggestions. 518 00:29:00,869 --> 00:29:03,470 There's nothing that's just let out dangerous. 519 00:29:03,470 --> 00:29:07,109 Well, that's the feeling I got from the email was, 520 00:29:07,650 --> 00:29:08,470 he's saying the word suggestion, 521 00:29:09,170 --> 00:29:09,690 but then he's saying, 522 00:29:09,690 --> 00:29:10,490 and you didn't do it, 523 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:12,569 and it sounds to me like it's not a suggestion. 524 00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:14,470 It's a command. 525 00:29:15,069 --> 00:29:16,730 I want you to get this done. 526 00:29:16,930 --> 00:29:18,390 I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense. 527 00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:20,269 Insurance company wants no risk. 528 00:29:20,650 --> 00:29:22,609 And I'm not saying they're not good suggestions, 529 00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:25,069 but do I go out and dig the ditch 530 00:29:25,069 --> 00:29:26,269 so we don't lose the road 531 00:29:26,269 --> 00:29:27,710 and somebody crashes their car, 532 00:29:27,809 --> 00:29:32,269 or do I fix the handrail again that they may or may not? 533 00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:33,769 I think we just have to show them 534 00:29:33,769 --> 00:29:35,269 that we're working on the list. 535 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:37,789 I mean, some of the things like ordering an eyewash fountain 536 00:29:37,789 --> 00:29:39,109 that they can just put two screws in 537 00:29:39,109 --> 00:29:39,670 and put on the wall, 538 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:40,289 it's not a big time. 539 00:29:40,289 --> 00:29:40,609 That's easy. 540 00:29:41,509 --> 00:29:43,250 What was the deal with the wood stove? 541 00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:44,910 It was like a medium risk, 542 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:45,990 so that would probably be something 543 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:47,769 we should probably look at more. 544 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:53,859 That's been an area that he doesn't like. 545 00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:56,059 Not because of the type of stove. 546 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,359 It's just because you're burning wood. 547 00:29:57,779 --> 00:29:58,759 You're still building. 548 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,839 The wood stove we have now is actually, 549 00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:03,400 you know, EPA. 550 00:30:05,099 --> 00:30:06,779 It's got actual numbers and everything. 551 00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:08,480 The old one was just a homemade. 552 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Right. 553 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,339 It really didn't like that. 554 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:11,680 What was the other one, Nancy, 555 00:30:11,819 --> 00:30:12,799 that was a medium risk? 556 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,599 It was the lockout tag out 557 00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:17,880 for anybody working there. 558 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:20,509 Get a lock right out. 559 00:30:21,009 --> 00:30:24,500 Well, he suggested making something 560 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,140 that goes on the wall that we, 561 00:30:27,019 --> 00:30:28,880 you know, you take the keys out of it 562 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,740 and you hang the keys on the wall. 563 00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:29,980 Yeah. 564 00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:32,299 It's Mike and me working there. 565 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:32,660 I know. 566 00:30:32,779 --> 00:30:35,259 Yeah, that's the world we live in. 567 00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:38,660 And every other contractor has their own lockout. 568 00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:40,079 You're supposed to each have your own lock 569 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:40,160 and your own key. 570 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,559 We don't. 571 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,799 It's like the GFCI outlets. 572 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:45,579 Yeah, I mean. 573 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,160 Change one or, but you can't do it. 574 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,720 You have to change them. 575 00:30:50,099 --> 00:30:51,200 Yeah, you can't do it. 576 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,579 It's not that I can't do it. 577 00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:57,900 It's just, it's like a take your pick thing. 578 00:30:58,019 --> 00:30:59,140 There's no sitting around. 579 00:30:59,339 --> 00:31:02,400 There's two people and I'm not complaining about it. 580 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,980 Some of this stuff is just, you know, 581 00:31:05,019 --> 00:31:07,259 there's always all these other extra things. 582 00:31:07,259 --> 00:31:08,539 You know, there are these storms. 583 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,279 Every time it rains hard, I've got to go, you know, 584 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,440 check stuff and make sure there isn't issues for the next time. 585 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,339 Because when it rains as hard as it's been, 586 00:31:16,339 --> 00:31:19,059 it takes all of the debris and plugs stuff up, 587 00:31:19,059 --> 00:31:20,839 whether it be a ditch or a culvert. 588 00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:24,339 So, you know, so that's a whole lost day every time it rains hard. 589 00:31:24,339 --> 00:31:27,099 You get two days in a row, you go right back around. 590 00:31:27,099 --> 00:31:30,039 What does he want with heat smoke detectors? 591 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:31,099 Do you have any up there? 592 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Maybe grab one somewhere and don't open the wood stove. 593 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,480 Don't open the wood stove. 594 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,880 Where do you put the smoke detector? 595 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,980 We've got ceilings that are, you know, how do you get it up there? 596 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:45,380 Yeah. 597 00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:46,380 I can't do that. 598 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:47,380 It's sticking on the wall. 599 00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:48,380 It's sticking on the wall. 600 00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:49,380 If you clutter your mind up too much. 601 00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:50,380 It's sticking on the wall. 602 00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:51,380 Yeah. 603 00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:52,380 By the eye wash. 604 00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:53,380 When you're smithing in someone like David's 605 00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:56,380 and you clutter your mind up too much with little frivolous stuff like this. 606 00:31:56,380 --> 00:31:57,380 I know. 607 00:31:57,380 --> 00:31:58,380 The burnout rate is way higher. 608 00:31:58,380 --> 00:31:59,380 Yeah. 609 00:31:59,380 --> 00:32:00,380 You just fry, you fry it. 610 00:32:00,380 --> 00:32:01,380 You're like a punchless guy. 611 00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:02,380 Yes. 612 00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:03,380 Thank you. 613 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:04,480 Yeah. 614 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,480 The third guy. 615 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,480 You'll, you'll fry your mind. 616 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,579 I knew that was coming. 617 00:32:07,579 --> 00:32:08,579 You'll burn out. 618 00:32:08,579 --> 00:32:09,579 Yep. 619 00:32:09,579 --> 00:32:16,079 It's not, it's beyond that because like the third guy's going to be right around and right 620 00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:17,079 with Mike and I. 621 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:24,359 It's not, these things here, if I just stopped and did all these other things, what really 622 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:26,359 mattered would never get done. 623 00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:31,359 Well, I hear, this is what bothers me is we have an insurance company coming in and saying 624 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,400 you have to, these suggestions we have to get. 625 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,400 But then when you go and you hire someone, they got to have a liability and they have 626 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,400 to have licenses and you know, so now that costs big bucks. 627 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,900 If you had a handyman that was running around and said, now if he works for the town, he 628 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:50,900 doesn't necessarily have to have a license and put a railing up. 629 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:54,900 But if you hire someone, you've got to have a contractor with a license. 630 00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:55,900 Right. 631 00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:59,900 You know, I know guys that put that railing up and they'll, they'll be happy to do it 632 00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:04,019 for 20 bucks an hour because they're looking for work, but they don't have a license and 633 00:33:04,019 --> 00:33:05,019 you can't hire those guys. 634 00:33:05,019 --> 00:33:07,019 Just like we were talking about the lawn mowing. 635 00:33:07,019 --> 00:33:09,019 You got to have a guy with liability insurance and all that stuff. 636 00:33:09,019 --> 00:33:13,019 You can't hire a guy in town that will be happy to blow up for less money. 637 00:33:13,019 --> 00:33:17,019 And it's getting to the point where our hands are tied on every single thing we move. 638 00:33:17,019 --> 00:33:19,019 And John just said it, it's the world we live in. 639 00:33:19,019 --> 00:33:22,019 It's the insurance companies and the lawyers that are killing us. 640 00:33:22,019 --> 00:33:27,019 The school use when they need to have like smoke alarms and stuff like that for them. 641 00:33:27,019 --> 00:33:29,019 Is it still Pierce? 642 00:33:29,019 --> 00:33:31,019 No, McClain? 643 00:33:31,019 --> 00:33:32,059 I don't know. 644 00:33:32,059 --> 00:33:33,059 It was McClain. 645 00:33:33,059 --> 00:33:37,059 Maybe it would be worth having him put in a bid for it and just having him take care 646 00:33:37,059 --> 00:33:38,059 of it, you know. 647 00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:40,059 Well, he's just an electrician. 648 00:33:40,059 --> 00:33:45,059 So you got smoke alarms and you got the outlets. 649 00:33:45,059 --> 00:33:50,059 But now you got to have your rail lines and your eye wash. 650 00:33:50,059 --> 00:33:52,059 You know, I'm not saying don't do it. 651 00:33:52,059 --> 00:33:56,059 I'm just saying I feel your pain in business. 652 00:33:56,059 --> 00:34:01,059 The insurance companies come in, OSHA comes in, the state comes in, and they all have 653 00:34:01,059 --> 00:34:02,059 different ideas. 654 00:34:02,059 --> 00:34:07,059 They literally will make you get rid of a coffee pot if it doesn't work. 655 00:34:07,059 --> 00:34:09,059 They're not going to justify their jobs. 656 00:34:09,059 --> 00:34:10,059 Sure. 657 00:34:10,059 --> 00:34:11,059 And that's exactly what it is. 658 00:34:11,059 --> 00:34:12,059 They're not in there because they care about your safety. 659 00:34:12,059 --> 00:34:13,059 They're in there to justify their job. 660 00:34:13,059 --> 00:34:14,059 I truly believe that's most of their reason. 661 00:34:14,059 --> 00:34:15,059 And I'm not saying don't do it. 662 00:34:15,059 --> 00:34:16,059 But I agree with Nancy. 663 00:34:16,059 --> 00:34:17,059 We should do, you know, get the eye wash. 664 00:34:17,059 --> 00:34:18,059 I have no problem with that. 665 00:34:18,059 --> 00:34:19,059 Get it. 666 00:34:19,059 --> 00:34:20,059 Do a couple things. 667 00:34:20,059 --> 00:34:21,059 What are the emergency lights? 668 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:22,059 They just need batteries, I think he said. 669 00:34:22,059 --> 00:34:23,059 Yeah, probably. 670 00:34:23,059 --> 00:34:24,059 If you can't get the battery, you can hurry and try to replace the whole thing. 671 00:34:24,059 --> 00:34:25,059 It'd be easier. 672 00:34:25,059 --> 00:34:26,059 Yes. 673 00:34:26,059 --> 00:34:27,059 Yeah. 674 00:34:27,059 --> 00:34:28,059 Yeah. 675 00:34:28,059 --> 00:34:29,059 Yeah. 676 00:34:29,059 --> 00:34:30,059 Yeah. 677 00:34:30,059 --> 00:34:31,059 Yeah. 678 00:34:31,059 --> 00:34:32,059 Yeah. 679 00:34:32,059 --> 00:34:33,059 Yeah. 680 00:34:33,059 --> 00:34:34,059 Yeah. 681 00:34:34,059 --> 00:34:35,059 Yeah. 682 00:34:35,059 --> 00:34:36,059 Yeah. 683 00:34:36,059 --> 00:34:37,059 Yeah. 684 00:34:37,059 --> 00:34:38,059 Yep. 685 00:34:38,059 --> 00:34:41,840 The reality of it is is that I'm going to go to work tomorrow and I'm going to forget 686 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,199 about all this stuff because it's like I'm going to get bogged down in the head. 687 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,199 I know. 688 00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:53,260 I mean, it's so hard to keep things going nowadays. 689 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:56,360 Like, if I break a bowl and it's bigger than, you know. 690 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Right. 691 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,360 It's a 3 inch bowl. 692 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,360 Yeah. 693 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,360 Or if it's a 3 quarter inch bowl- 694 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,360 You can't get it in the town. 695 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,360 Oh. 696 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,360 Like, I waste half a day going to get one bowl to keep something running. 697 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,360 Right. 698 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,599 fastener yeah and they don't have it and then they said well we can get it tomorrow morning 699 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:16,800 if that's the case cover me all these things i'll get it faster going down the road and 700 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:23,719 our ram just died it seemed like it ran out of fuel so i tow it back to the garage 701 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,639 and spent you know a day figuring out what was wrong with that i mean there's all it's just 702 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:37,289 yep i prioritize weekly but daily you know it's all of a sudden something comes up 703 00:35:37,489 --> 00:35:41,949 and you just have to get through it you have to have the truck running to do the rest of it 704 00:35:41,949 --> 00:35:46,550 right we understand it yeah it's smoother in your head right and then you try to go do it 705 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:50,050 and you're going to expect them to throw the wrench that's what keeps me in business is 706 00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:57,210 there's no harvest i mean i make parts because they can't buy it oh i i ordered this and it's 707 00:35:57,210 --> 00:36:02,010 coming out of china it's going to take six months and it's 400 bucks and i'm like yeah i can make 708 00:36:02,010 --> 00:36:07,440 that and it's twelve hundred dollars making because i can't wait you know and that's where 709 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,599 we're at 710 00:36:07,619 --> 00:36:12,500 right now dude they just closed the hardware store in north end let's close it oh i'm sean 711 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:16,900 see now you gotta drive a little farther right yeah there's a beach and stand a little light 712 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:24,860 there it's just it's always there's when you pay for a half inch bowl a half inch bowl you're 713 00:36:24,860 --> 00:36:30,130 paying seven dollars for a half inch ball i could buy the whole box for that yeah but that's what 714 00:36:30,130 --> 00:36:35,809 they got you for some of the smaller stuff we have an assortment that yeah trying to keep handy 715 00:36:37,409 --> 00:36:37,969 down the street 716 00:36:38,289 --> 00:36:48,530 well think about it see which one you can work on and i'll look it over again i thought the eyewash 717 00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:55,250 seemed like we were trying yeah yeah that's something you should have something yeah we do 718 00:36:55,250 --> 00:37:02,500 but it's not good enough for what they say i've got two bottles they're mounted on the wall and 719 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:07,780 if you got something in your eye you could wash i mean you have something that's not good enough for 720 00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:08,260 your life 721 00:37:09,090 --> 00:37:13,570 so it's like everything else it's it's okay but they suggest something better 722 00:37:13,570 --> 00:37:17,809 right or get the emergency lights but i think they've got to be hooked up to 723 00:37:17,809 --> 00:37:20,289 electricians that'll come up there yeah there's something telling me 724 00:37:20,289 --> 00:37:23,570 he's trying to tell you yeah it comes out it says exit i know where the exit is 725 00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:31,250 i know this is how my mind works is that a priority no not at all 726 00:37:33,409 --> 00:37:38,610 a structure up there he's supposed to have the structure he's like the only guy who's going to be 727 00:37:38,769 --> 00:37:44,929 carrying me on the structure exactly down the way for someone yeah but he's got a head it's not that 728 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:50,210 i'm trying to ignore it but i know that i just can't because i'm in the road in the washerway 729 00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:54,690 next time i thunderstorm the road in the posture and you're like well how are you working on that 730 00:37:54,690 --> 00:38:03,039 light right aren't you the highway the firemen it's just there's no end i mean the roof needs 731 00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:08,719 to be fixed the doors need to be fixed all right did you get a quote on the doors yet he didn't get 732 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:15,199 okay i'm more concerned though yep use the harper money for the electrical fixes and 733 00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:23,679 stuff like that or no the lights i think we could put that on one big ball of maintenance 734 00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:28,159 completely yeah that's what i would do i mean i wouldn't just say it's for this light it's for 735 00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,920 your maintenance 40 000 for the maintenance 736 00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:38,719 did you get any quotes on the roof or anything on that or no i can i just didn't that's good 737 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,039 we're trying to get some clarification on this grant that we're hopefully going to put in for 738 00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:51,199 because we've got the audit so they come through the energy audit and then tell us what their 739 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:56,400 findings are and then we fill out paper which doesn't even exist at this point so we're not 740 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:03,119 behind we're on the list right so for the inspection i thought once they did the assessment 741 00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:09,039 then we could implement what they said like i thought money followed this but what she said was 742 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,920 hoping that there's no money out there yet so this assessment is basically just going to be 743 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:22,960 informational and then maybe next year or the year after you can apply on a competitive level for a 744 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,599 grant that you may or may not get have we have they come down to do the assessment yet well they 745 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:34,719 they're they're scheduling it right right that's the class i remember you saying they're scheduling 746 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,079 it so which we've been going on for how long 747 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,440 especially this is the problem i have with everything is you can't get 748 00:39:44,590 --> 00:39:51,340 anybody to do their job anymore everything is just like the sweeper this year called the sweeper we 749 00:39:51,340 --> 00:40:00,510 signed his contract where is he you're supposed to be here in april may not using him again yep 750 00:40:00,510 --> 00:40:06,050 doesn't i mean i think it's we we're going to be fine without doing it but i called them numerous 751 00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:09,650 times called the cell phone and they're still in business that time you've done it's because it's 752 00:40:09,650 --> 00:40:10,769 snowing yep no way 753 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:16,690 yeah why bother at this point right hard to find a good problem so and who else does it 754 00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:21,650 there really isn't we've had both of them and i've had issues with both of them both companies 755 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,760 that's why i went to this other one because the other guy didn't ever show up either 756 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:34,190 the town of stanford is not anybody's priority no we're not we don't buy big does the uh 757 00:40:34,190 --> 00:40:42,940 pizzi loan tractor have one he can run we may go do something with the loader where we can get it 758 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:50,579 a sweeper a three-throw has one that's on the front of it but it's a it's a day a year i mean 759 00:40:50,579 --> 00:40:54,980 it's kind of yeah yeah you know how much do you spend on something like that you usually don't 760 00:40:54,980 --> 00:41:00,019 rent something that's different things that have the uh protection yeah you can go in there and 761 00:41:00,019 --> 00:41:06,820 have three years or something okay so we're so we're small if we don't want that's a good 762 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:12,900 suggestion though could you would reasonable would it fit on our tractor or not um i don't know yeah 763 00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:20,099 on their loader can we borrow their loader for one day i didn't want to break as well yeah 764 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:27,780 but it might be an idea to hire them out no we don't even borrow it have their man come and do 765 00:41:27,780 --> 00:41:32,500 it for us for one day we'll pay them we didn't ask it wouldn't hurt and ask get it for next 766 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:39,809 year because if you said we don't need it this year most of the roads are clean now yeah and 767 00:41:39,809 --> 00:41:44,960 some of that the sweeping was something that i think years ago we used more sand on the 768 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:50,480 blacktop it was really something to be done and now it's kind of a hitting this thing it's nice 769 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,920 because it keeps the grass starts to creep out on the blacktop and the sweeper kind of keeps 770 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:03,650 you know the road away and it does pick up some debris but you know you get a thunderstorm or 771 00:42:03,650 --> 00:42:11,920 two and you can't tell if we swept or not you got their back on the road so you guys don't have time 772 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,880 as well with the hands if that's what you want me to do i'll do anything you guys want me to do 773 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:24,320 but i just know the reality of it is i know what's what's a priority what isn't and i never seem to 774 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:36,800 get everything needed done which for the most part works we get by but if you stop to do these other 775 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:49,619 things it's not it's not okay what else on roads laurie put in our box the culvert on sportsman's 776 00:42:49,619 --> 00:42:50,900 road a diagram 777 00:42:52,179 --> 00:42:59,809 yeah oh that's right the conceptual design so kind of what i'm saying about that project it's 778 00:42:59,809 --> 00:43:13,500 not quite as simple as is just going up there and throwing a bigger club in it yes have you 779 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:18,539 talked to elfinwealth at all um well they came down here yeah i'm on that board if you want me 780 00:43:18,539 --> 00:43:25,019 to pass it well i can if you want to take on them yeah i just got this today so okay because 781 00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:29,329 i can just talk to mike cool about it yeah something i can turn it off 782 00:43:30,210 --> 00:43:37,940 so maybe oh way down there you should get the actual hydrological 783 00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:48,579 so it's like there's two different hands in the state this one's doing this 784 00:43:50,019 --> 00:43:53,539 so the hydraulic study addresses the culvert that's there 785 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:59,539 and then the stream alteration guy who gives you the permit to do the project 786 00:44:00,579 --> 00:44:01,139 does this 787 00:44:01,619 --> 00:44:07,059 it says oh this is the alteration almost looks like they're putting it back where the original 788 00:44:07,059 --> 00:44:11,699 stream that's exactly what they just bent it down the road here they probably because it's 789 00:44:11,699 --> 00:44:17,139 one culvert instead of two well when they did it like that yeah that's why they did it like that 790 00:44:17,139 --> 00:44:23,179 years ago they wanted to cheapen it up so so basically in talking to stream alteration 791 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:30,449 specialist or whatever you want because of the grade's not very steep there i was going to set 792 00:44:30,449 --> 00:44:31,409 it back enough 793 00:44:32,769 --> 00:44:37,090 so even if you put a bigger culvert in you're having the same issues that's going to plug 794 00:44:37,090 --> 00:44:44,739 that culvert around they suggested raising the road foot to be able to get in a bigger culvert 795 00:44:44,739 --> 00:44:50,590 in that area we'd have to raise the row of foot just to put in something bigger and you can read 796 00:44:52,030 --> 00:45:00,639 this other hydraulic study on it and you know a massive speed bump yeah yeah it's 797 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,960 yeah unfortunately this like john said this is the world we live in 798 00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:11,409 where i don't just go out and fix the problem everybody else has control it would take you two 799 00:45:11,409 --> 00:45:17,570 years to get all the approvals yeah i mean the army corps engineers actually 50 then you got to 800 00:45:17,570 --> 00:45:23,969 go to the landowners apple wall and some of this so you got i mean that's unbelievable so they're 801 00:45:23,969 --> 00:45:28,530 going to move the culvert down on suzanne drive this is what it looks like right is that what 802 00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:34,769 they want to do yeah okay so it'd be two culverts so it'd be two and a half yeah oh up there and down 803 00:45:34,769 --> 00:45:39,650 right right and you watch her work in the woods so what about that little stream that comes down 804 00:45:40,610 --> 00:45:47,920 almost across from suzanne drive it was running i was running not too much 805 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:56,079 but when it rains i'm sure it's gonna come right down into the old probably the 806 00:45:56,079 --> 00:46:01,550 old cover culver unless they take that one up because there's still one coming down from the 807 00:46:01,550 --> 00:46:05,869 woods were they going to leave that color yeah you leave the ones there it's not fake 808 00:46:05,869 --> 00:46:12,030 it's just when you get it yeah it's to get is to put extra water somewhere yeah yeah well that's 809 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:18,460 what this can't hold the capacity yeah if you put a bigger culvert in there so instead of having a 810 00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:23,440 floodplain that's basically what you have now in that culvert it makes the road and the surrounding 811 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,719 area floodplain so it disperses the energy so once you send it all through the culvert 812 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,280 what do you think it's going to do to where it's coming out i mean it's going to gut right down 813 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,320 by that guy's garage like you you think you're fixing the problem but you're not and that's why 814 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,599 they come up with this other plant well you get a drop on the other side of any culvert you get 815 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,199 dropped yeah so yeah but now you're putting all the water instead of just fanning it out 816 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:56,690 so it's gonna you know it's gonna channelize even more so maybe the new floodplain yeah 817 00:46:57,730 --> 00:47:01,409 that's what would have happened you would you end up it probably comes down all through and 818 00:47:01,409 --> 00:47:03,889 go right through your house after because now you're sending all 819 00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:12,369 of it which is why we have what plane and why they try not to let you go they want to not have 820 00:47:12,369 --> 00:47:18,130 that issue you fix your problem just move it out yeah when i come in and color your trees down 821 00:47:18,130 --> 00:47:25,360 really okay um anything else then dave 822 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,719 recycling 823 00:47:33,070 --> 00:47:35,150 close the recycling center because we had 824 00:47:35,389 --> 00:47:41,380 power yesterday right yeah and i didn't notice any bags up there 825 00:47:42,340 --> 00:47:47,059 last night nobody threw them over or came out there so that was good yeah i don't think anybody 826 00:47:47,059 --> 00:47:54,369 went in there good um i did have a call from somebody from the state i don't know if we took 827 00:47:54,369 --> 00:48:01,820 air conditioners and air conditioners are still on our list i think they emailed me and i emailed 828 00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:05,900 them back a sheet with all of our fees and we do take our 829 00:48:06,219 --> 00:48:07,420 but we took it off the list 830 00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:16,400 i thought because it's got the freon refrigerated and they were i thought we were gonna all that 831 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,179 stuff was gonna go down to that we said take them down to north adams 832 00:48:24,659 --> 00:48:28,659 save them for that guy with the refrigerator somebody tried to bring it to that and they 833 00:48:28,659 --> 00:48:36,260 won't pay it to north adams oh just oh yeah yeah somebody has to like manually 834 00:48:36,579 --> 00:48:40,579 remove that freon out of there you can't just throw it out right there used to be a guy in 835 00:48:40,579 --> 00:48:45,380 clarkford that would always supposed to attack them i don't think the whole freon is now worth 836 00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:51,380 about five thousand dollars a pound really yeah there's whole businesses where people go around 837 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:56,659 and just drain the refrigerator so somebody called because they wanted to get rid of their 838 00:48:56,659 --> 00:49:07,039 air conditioner and what did we tell them i didn't speak to the person um it was the swift 839 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:13,039 people who received the call you know what you know what you know well this is the easiest idea 840 00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:18,000 why not still on the list it sounds like we don't we don't we have to take it off we probably should 841 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,800 it off yeah yeah what's i think from this moment on we're gonna take it off yeah it's probably gonna 842 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:32,460 cost you money do we take those people do we take refrigerators we take those anymore we we had this 843 00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:36,619 discussion a lot yeah we did up the last year 844 00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:43,019 storm for that guy up in the air there are we taking them off the list and then there's 845 00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:49,500 who's that we had a new recycling place in adam yeah i know the guys the guy that owns it i know 846 00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:53,579 him real well i'm just referring to that i don't i can't remember the name i mentioned that meeting 847 00:49:54,139 --> 00:49:58,860 because they take mattresses yeah yeah i could i can look into that if you want nasty 848 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,119 and can the individual people bring them down could i bring my mattress down or my i'll ask 849 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:17,650 them or does it have to be a town or store so maybe when we review our informational sheet for 850 00:50:18,289 --> 00:50:30,449 starting november 1st for the limits of changes i mean they they don't just take them he charges 851 00:50:30,449 --> 00:50:34,449 to take them of course right the same thing with the mattress we never do anything yeah 852 00:50:36,449 --> 00:50:40,690 yeah i can get a price list for what he takes i want to take them to your town and then bring them 853 00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:45,409 to him i would just refer stuff like that to like hey if you've got a refrigerator or air conditioner 854 00:50:45,570 --> 00:50:54,099 call this guy and you let them if you want to get rid of let them pay it yeah that'd be good 855 00:50:54,099 --> 00:50:59,699 on the informational sheet about what we take and don't take to have some links yeah if we don't 856 00:50:59,699 --> 00:51:06,800 take it yeah right i think we did say that one time that was just in the selection minutes yeah 857 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,199 i think more than takes pretty much everything but they charge you you know it just costs money 858 00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:16,639 to get rid of stuff but they wouldn't take it from stanford you have no i mean i haven't 859 00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:24,719 done that yeah i mean i mean i bring up stuff from northlands all the time i have a dump trailer 860 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,119 i fill right up and bring it up there there's certain things that like you said if there's 861 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:33,920 a refrigerator in there you have to separate it you take charge of x amount of dollars for that 862 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:41,460 and then that demo and stuff like that goes into the trash there's no difference they charge about 863 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:53,070 a pound it's not cheap you work over a scale there's your money um anything else on recycling 864 00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:04,059 the emergency management um i guess bill gave lori a couple bills that we have to pay for the 865 00:52:04,699 --> 00:52:13,780 fire truck now we got to the point where they delivered the cabin chassis and that's a hundred 866 00:52:13,780 --> 00:52:27,099 and seven thousand dollars and some miscellaneous 107 670 and at the same time we're getting credit 867 00:52:28,690 --> 00:52:34,289 on four hundred and twenty nine dollars and three cents for paying for that chassis now 868 00:52:36,130 --> 00:52:42,460 rather than when the engines delivered because it saves them having to finance it 869 00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:52,139 so the 107 is with the credit with the four thousand dollars credit the 107 870 00:52:53,360 --> 00:53:00,960 has to be paid the credit comes off of the 525 000 okay for the engine okay 871 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:12,829 get 521. okay so there's money there's uh with the 50 000 that was appropriated this year there'll 872 00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:23,070 be 232 000 in the fire department uh account so we have no problem paying this 107 out of there 873 00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:26,269 yep that's where it's supposed to come from yep okay 874 00:53:27,869 --> 00:53:33,789 yeah i don't know why we even keep that money why does it why don't we give it right to the fire 875 00:53:34,030 --> 00:53:40,719 department i mean it's a warrant article it's a warrant article i don't know why we keep track of 876 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:48,929 it i mean you're a separate entity you're not it's invested yeah yeah i guess and so we're taking 877 00:53:48,929 --> 00:54:00,210 advantage of the best opportunity lori hasn't invested i didn't make the decision i guess 878 00:54:00,210 --> 00:54:04,849 i'm going to say it was always done that way but it's good to keep an eye on it too we have 879 00:54:05,409 --> 00:54:07,760 we can see what's going on it's good for the taxpayers 880 00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:16,909 it's almost like it's a replacement fund yeah so we've accepted we've already authorized 881 00:54:16,909 --> 00:54:28,690 disbursement of it and then we have the numbers that are coming up to consider because with the 882 00:54:28,690 --> 00:54:41,710 money that will come in 26 and 27 that's how far we had authorized a town meeting at 50 000 a year 883 00:54:41,710 --> 00:54:44,190 from 23 to 884 00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:50,989 27 is going to leave 141 000 on 885 00:54:56,769 --> 00:55:07,840 so if we get to the point where we ask to continue that replacement fund at 50 000 a year 886 00:55:08,989 --> 00:55:11,550 it'll cover the interest on what's borrowed and 887 00:55:12,929 --> 00:55:19,889 all in an additional three years so be 28 29 30 and it's done okay i was going to 888 00:55:19,969 --> 00:55:27,380 say we you don't think we should borrow the money now and pay the interest oh we are going to have 889 00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:35,300 to borrow that money before 27 comes up at the end of this year okay yeah well yeah those interest 890 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:39,460 rates are still going up that's all i'm saying at the end of this year we're going to have to borrow 891 00:55:39,460 --> 00:55:48,909 the money the first payment for it will be in 26 no in 25. okay bill we may have to reward that article 892 00:55:50,530 --> 00:55:51,030 because 893 00:55:53,230 --> 00:55:59,630 in 2022 town meeting we said the town will raise appropriate fifty thousand dollars 894 00:55:59,630 --> 00:56:10,590 annually for a five-year period beginning in 2022. 23 22. so 22 23 24 25 26 we can only work 895 00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:18,429 we can only go out five years so we can't do that next year next no in 26 we'll have to 896 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:22,400 reword the article or put another article on 897 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:28,079 to continue the because the last payment will not be in the 27th 898 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,800 can we just do it next year and amend this article 899 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,239 add to the end of it oh write a new article write a new article 900 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:43,119 the reason we kept this was five years is a commitment in the maximum without considering 901 00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:51,579 bonding right so when we run out of the five years we can look for permission for another for a three 902 00:56:51,579 --> 00:56:52,539 year okay 903 00:56:52,780 --> 00:57:08,840 about an unchi 904 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:14,780 and we are getting to the end of this payment here without saying five years we should vote on 905 00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:21,199 it every third one so stadules an article on the tell me in the town meeting either way it 906 00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:23,019 doesn't we used to yeah we got ahead there we bought a truck we got to get there so yeah what i think 907 00:57:23,019 --> 00:57:46,420 year that's what we kind of learned I think to go to that and that okay 908 00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:52,460 that's why we really need an article for three if we come up soon to overlap 909 00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:57,980 because either way around we need the money by the end yeah for I think 910 00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:05,329 somewhere though they said you we can't commit money but we do have a contract 911 00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:12,420 oh so if we didn't have a contract maybe we can't commit money for I want to 912 00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:18,139 raise just in case just in case right but we might buy something right can't 913 00:58:18,139 --> 00:58:23,280 do it because we have a number we can't commit future town people to something 914 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:31,519 that we said might happen right but we know this all negotiated the purchase 915 00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:41,989 of two ambulances for the Northern Berkshire and found that the best he did was with 916 00:58:41,989 --> 00:58:50,050 Adam's co-op with him in a very favorable way he's willing to approach them for a 917 00:58:50,050 --> 00:58:55,510 similar rate for loan for us unless you or Laurie would rather do that 918 00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:59,840 yourself 919 00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:07,949 I mean he has the people and he knows that now that we're within at the 920 00:59:07,949 --> 00:59:10,730 beginning of the year we couldn't ask them for something when we didn't they 921 00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:15,989 could only commit six months forward now we know we're within the six-month range 922 00:59:15,989 --> 00:59:23,480 so they can give us a firm commitment so when do we expect to have this fire 923 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:29,530 truck it's not a promise but the likelihood is no better 924 00:59:29,530 --> 00:59:32,659 Oh nice 925 00:59:32,659 --> 00:59:37,460 yeah this November the difficulty of it is you don't want to take your brand-new 926 00:59:37,460 --> 00:59:43,119 shiny fire truck and bring it out in the snow and the state in the mud so yeah 927 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:46,000 gotta use it 928 00:59:46,619 --> 00:59:53,590 it may depending on where we are within them too the white one which will go out 929 00:59:53,590 --> 01:00:01,099 go once it arrives it may be we may park engine two on the outside take its face 930 01:00:01,099 --> 01:00:04,099 and put the brain water training further in the back corner 931 01:00:04,219 --> 01:00:17,260 also have it for training as people get used to it and hopefully not put it out in the nasty stuff if you can avoid it, but it's there to do the job. 932 01:00:17,260 --> 01:00:28,300 So one little note, I have a customer that buys chassis, a lot of chassis, by the thousands, and they buy Ford chassis. 933 01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:45,550 They were, I'm going to say it was 2022, they were paying about $36,000 to $38,000 for a chassis and now they're paying $84,000 for a chassis. 934 01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:56,550 That's where the numbers have gone. So Paul actually mentioned to me and Glenn, it was really a great idea for us to jump on this because we would be paying a lot. 935 01:00:56,550 --> 01:00:57,550 Yes. 936 01:00:57,550 --> 01:01:01,550 Yeah, at least 50% more. That's where it is. 937 01:01:01,550 --> 01:01:02,550 So we'll have to see where we land. 938 01:01:02,550 --> 01:01:21,670 We are, once it's here, we're going to start looking to go to Mack Truck Collectors with a promise that we could probably release it in the fall or early spring, the one that we originally bought from California. 939 01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:34,300 And if we can get $5,000 or $6,000 back out of it, it'll go to the equipment that we still will need, you know, new equipment. 940 01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:35,300 We've budgeted for it. 941 01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:40,300 We've got about $10,000 for the small stuff that you've got to put on the engine. 942 01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:43,860 Mm-hmm. 943 01:01:43,860 --> 01:01:45,860 All right, then I will ask Paul to go ahead. 944 01:01:45,860 --> 01:01:46,960 Thank you. 945 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,960 So if I put the check in and just call you when it's ready, am I just going to mail it in or? 946 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:51,960 Mail it to him. 947 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:57,280 Mail it to him. 948 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,280 He'll be looking for it. 949 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 950 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:07,679 If there's more questions about it, if you don't have an answer, I'll be happy to try and get it. 951 01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:10,679 Larry, could you like FEMA and ask them for more questions? 952 01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,679 Now, what day, what was it again? What size tires are those? 953 01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:29,599 The biggest thing they want to save for tradition is the big electric siren, the dynamic one with the motor that winds up and winds down. 954 01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:34,599 Apparently, they're like $7,000 or $8,000 to buy new if you do fiber. 955 01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:36,889 So that will go on the new engine. 956 01:02:36,889 --> 01:02:44,519 Okay, anything else, Phil? 957 01:02:44,519 --> 01:02:46,840 All that I've got. 958 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,869 Okay. 959 01:02:48,869 --> 01:02:53,559 DV Fiber Financial Assistance. 960 01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:56,659 Financial Assistance Review Policies. 961 01:02:56,659 --> 01:03:08,750 It was mentioned at a previous meeting that we should have a policy, but I think we kind of decided that we were going to give $500 per application. 962 01:03:08,750 --> 01:03:09,750 Up to? 963 01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:12,300 Up to. 964 01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:22,579 So Laurie and I worked on the application, and if that's, should we put that on the application? 965 01:03:22,579 --> 01:03:25,579 Select Board approves up to $500 per application. 966 01:03:25,579 --> 01:03:28,539 For household. 967 01:03:28,539 --> 01:03:33,539 And then it says, I am requesting funding for the following project. 968 01:03:33,539 --> 01:03:37,539 Installation of DV Fiber at home address. 969 01:03:37,539 --> 01:03:41,460 Sure. 970 01:03:41,460 --> 01:03:48,460 And then application should be submitted with a self-certification form to the Select Board in a sealed envelope. 971 01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:53,460 Applications will be considered as received and reviewed privately. 972 01:03:53,710 --> 01:03:56,710 I think those were the questions we had, Laurie. 973 01:03:56,710 --> 01:04:05,300 Bob never got back to us on it, so I guess it's okay with him. 974 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:15,030 So you have the final form if you want to finalize it, get it ready for anybody that wants it. 975 01:04:15,030 --> 01:04:23,800 And I'm still trying to get them to identify the five households that they claim were awaiting installation, 976 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,829 because they have some kind of installation problem. 977 01:04:27,829 --> 01:04:29,599 Okay. 978 01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:31,599 But with all their privacy. 979 01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:32,599 Yes. 980 01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:33,599 Routine. 981 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:42,300 Bob and I both took that course and signed off for a certificate that we would hold everything private and confidential. 982 01:04:42,300 --> 01:04:45,300 They still haven't given us the five. 983 01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:48,929 Okay. 984 01:04:48,929 --> 01:04:52,150 Delinquent dog update. 985 01:04:52,150 --> 01:05:03,670 So those tickets have worked down to 10 people and 15 dogs. 986 01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:06,670 Are the 10 people the regulars? 987 01:05:06,670 --> 01:05:07,670 Or are they five? 988 01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:10,670 Are they following up on... 989 01:05:10,670 --> 01:05:13,670 Well, they just paid a couple weeks ago for the election. 990 01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:15,670 Yeah. 991 01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:17,670 Pretty soon it's going to be time. 992 01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:30,900 It amazes me. 993 01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:31,900 This one doesn't amaze me. 994 01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:33,900 I think we should publish it like, you know, delinquent taxes. 995 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:34,900 Yeah. 996 01:05:34,900 --> 01:05:35,900 I mean, that's what I'm saying. 997 01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:36,900 This is... 998 01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:37,900 A little shaming. 999 01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:38,900 Yeah. 1000 01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:44,900 Just to remind people if they forgot or they're not paying attention or they didn't get Luke's bill. 1001 01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:48,900 This is worse than the taxes because it's pennies. 1002 01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:57,900 We weren't at like 10 or 15 until just like... 1003 01:05:57,900 --> 01:05:58,900 November. 1004 01:05:58,900 --> 01:05:59,900 March. 1005 01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:00,900 Yeah. 1006 01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:01,900 About when March. 1007 01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:02,900 So what's this next step? 1008 01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:05,900 Are these people coming in or calling you or anything? 1009 01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:07,900 They have been coming in. 1010 01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:09,900 These 10 people or... 1011 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:12,900 Well, those 10 people we haven't heard anything from. 1012 01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:13,900 Okay. 1013 01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:21,280 I guess I'd have to look at our ordinance if the next step might be the court system. 1014 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,280 Yeah. 1015 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:28,460 I would have Luke proceed with the next step then. 1016 01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:29,460 What's it? 1017 01:06:29,460 --> 01:06:30,460 $10? 1018 01:06:30,460 --> 01:06:31,460 Something like that? 1019 01:06:31,460 --> 01:06:32,460 Close enough. 1020 01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:33,460 $9 if it's deferred and $13 if it's... 1021 01:06:33,460 --> 01:06:34,460 I mean... 1022 01:06:34,460 --> 01:06:35,460 If you do it by April 1st. 1023 01:06:35,460 --> 01:06:36,460 I can't believe this. 1024 01:06:36,460 --> 01:06:38,099 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1025 01:06:38,099 --> 01:06:39,099 See, some of these people have $2 and $4. 1026 01:06:39,099 --> 01:06:40,099 Yeah. 1027 01:06:40,099 --> 01:06:41,099 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1028 01:06:41,099 --> 01:06:42,099 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1029 01:06:42,099 --> 01:06:43,099 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1030 01:06:43,099 --> 01:06:44,099 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1031 01:06:44,099 --> 01:06:45,900 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1032 01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:46,900 Yeah. 1033 01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:47,900 And then it's a $2 and $4 penalty. 1034 01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:48,900 So, why don't these people have kids? 1035 01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:49,900 Why don't they get the rabies shots for these animals, right? 1036 01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:50,900 How much is the penalty for them? 1037 01:06:50,900 --> 01:06:51,900 $2 if it's fixed and $4 if it's... 1038 01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:56,900 So, they won't pay the $9, but when they get the $2 penalty, that makes the pay? 1039 01:06:56,900 --> 01:06:57,900 No. 1040 01:06:57,900 --> 01:06:58,900 I get that reminder. 1041 01:06:58,900 --> 01:06:59,900 Didn't we charge them more for this? 1042 01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:00,900 Well, these guys were doing $50 penalty. 1043 01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:01,900 Oh, okay. 1044 01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:02,900 So, these guys, some of them are... 1045 01:07:02,900 --> 01:07:03,900 When your dog fine goes over your taxes, then they're going to pay. 1046 01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:04,900 Lisa, you had a question? 1047 01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:05,900 Yeah. 1048 01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:06,900 I'm sorry. 1049 01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:07,900 This is not the right time, but back to the emergency room. 1050 01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:08,900 So, what are the things that you're doing? 1051 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:09,900 I'm not sure. 1052 01:07:09,900 --> 01:07:13,039 Your dog fine goes over your taxes, then they're gone. 1053 01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:14,199 Lisa, you had a question? 1054 01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:16,000 Yeah, I'm sorry, this is not the right time, 1055 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,739 but back to the emergency management, 1056 01:07:17,739 --> 01:07:19,820 and Paul is still here in case he leaves. 1057 01:07:19,820 --> 01:07:21,300 Like, what are we doing about, 1058 01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:23,019 I don't know if this is the right board to talk about, 1059 01:07:23,019 --> 01:07:25,300 but the heat, like, I heard like a lot of people 1060 01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:27,199 are using the bathroom outside of Belmont, 1061 01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:28,800 the floor potty and stuff like that. 1062 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,190 Do we, who's taking care of like when we have, 1063 01:07:32,190 --> 01:07:34,050 are we gonna have that discussion about what happens 1064 01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:36,590 during heat or storms when the power goes out? 1065 01:07:36,590 --> 01:07:39,889 I'm sorry, who's taking care of the emergency shelter? 1066 01:07:39,889 --> 01:07:41,489 Yeah, that kind of thing. 1067 01:07:41,489 --> 01:07:43,289 Emergency shelter. Cooling centers. 1068 01:07:43,289 --> 01:07:45,489 Well, we don't have cooling centers. 1069 01:07:45,489 --> 01:07:47,690 Because what happens if, because we have a generator, 1070 01:07:47,690 --> 01:07:48,789 but like a lot of people don't, 1071 01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:51,989 what happens when you can't use your bathroom, or what? 1072 01:07:51,989 --> 01:07:53,789 I feel like if they're going to Belmont 1073 01:07:53,789 --> 01:07:56,190 for the floor potty, I feel like we have a problem in town 1074 01:07:56,190 --> 01:08:00,119 that we need to look into. 1075 01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:03,420 I think it's the same that we've dealt with before, 1076 01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:06,679 that somebody's gotta be here to man the building. 1077 01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:08,280 Right. And open the building. 1078 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,380 Is it nighttime? 1079 01:08:09,380 --> 01:08:09,880 Who's staying over? 1080 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,079 I know, I just didn't think about it. 1081 01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:12,579 I know. 1082 01:08:12,579 --> 01:08:15,679 Because, you know, with extreme heat, 1083 01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:18,279 it's not as bad as the cold, but it kind of can be. 1084 01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:21,029 I thought of that, too. 1085 01:08:21,029 --> 01:08:24,630 At least the kind of thing they get responsibility for is, 1086 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:26,630 one, who's gonna open, you know, 1087 01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:29,739 we can find somebody to go from the building. 1088 01:08:29,739 --> 01:08:31,800 Who's going to stay? 1089 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,800 And actually, if you open the building 1090 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,800 and you follow the routine that we're supposed to, 1091 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,399 you're supposed to take information and log who came in, 1092 01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:44,600 and also the who left, so that you don't wind up 1093 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,899 with some kid in a corner somewhere after you've 1094 01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:50,699 relocked the building, like you were in the back corner 1095 01:08:50,699 --> 01:08:54,779 of a school bus, and somebody's gotta do that. 1096 01:08:54,779 --> 01:08:57,279 I mean, don't you get a team for that or something? 1097 01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:01,779 I thought Bob was working on something like that. 1098 01:09:01,779 --> 01:09:06,680 There is, yeah, it's a civilian emergency response team. 1099 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,680 Is that under the emergency management people? 1100 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:10,779 Oh, it's served. 1101 01:09:10,979 --> 01:09:12,979 Yeah, that's his, that's his. 1102 01:09:12,979 --> 01:09:13,979 Right. 1103 01:09:13,979 --> 01:09:21,119 It's non-first responders helping in an emergency situation. 1104 01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:22,119 Right. 1105 01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:26,619 And so, you know, 15, 20 years ago, 1106 01:09:26,619 --> 01:09:29,880 we wound up with getting, you know, 1107 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,380 some assistance from Red Cross, 1108 01:09:31,380 --> 01:09:35,380 when Red Cross was still a lot more active in Bennington County, 1109 01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:38,439 which they're not now. 1110 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,109 We have some guidelines. 1111 01:09:41,109 --> 01:09:42,609 We need people. 1112 01:09:42,609 --> 01:09:49,149 The five or six people that we gathered up at the time, 1113 01:09:49,149 --> 01:09:51,149 there were probably three left in town, 1114 01:09:51,149 --> 01:09:55,789 including Nancy, Joan, and me. 1115 01:09:55,789 --> 01:09:56,789 Some have passed away. 1116 01:09:56,789 --> 01:10:00,640 Some have moved out of town. 1117 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,640 Those people that were, you know, anxious, 1118 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,640 terribly anxious to get involved in, you know, civic authority, 1119 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,899 you know, civic assistance, 1120 01:10:08,899 --> 01:10:14,560 we'd be happy to try and get them trained. 1121 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,779 What kind of training would it involve? 1122 01:10:16,779 --> 01:10:18,779 I think we have enough people in town that care that, you know, 1123 01:10:18,779 --> 01:10:21,520 Well, not only... 1124 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,520 Yeah, but it isn't enough to say, I care. 1125 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,579 Yeah. 1126 01:10:24,579 --> 01:10:28,670 You're willing to learn what you're supposed to be doing, 1127 01:10:28,670 --> 01:10:30,670 those forms that ought to be filled out. 1128 01:10:30,670 --> 01:10:33,670 You're going to take the responsibility that if there's a storm, 1129 01:10:33,670 --> 01:10:35,670 and even if your house is flooded, 1130 01:10:35,670 --> 01:10:41,970 you're going to come here and help other people. 1131 01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:47,319 There was some discussion from Bob Briggs 1132 01:10:47,319 --> 01:10:53,350 about instigating just, 1133 01:10:53,350 --> 01:11:00,210 or encouraging people taking it upon themselves to find... 1134 01:11:00,210 --> 01:11:03,210 I mean, it's sort of like when we had those neighborhood, 1135 01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:07,210 you know, team, like, information people. 1136 01:11:07,210 --> 01:11:11,210 But to, you know, for each person to take sort of the responsibility 1137 01:11:11,210 --> 01:11:15,210 to reach out to, you know, the neighbors that they know 1138 01:11:15,210 --> 01:11:17,210 and say, you know, 1139 01:11:17,210 --> 01:11:21,210 Okay, Doug, come to my house if you need to jump in the swimming pool. 1140 01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:23,210 Or my stove has gas, 1141 01:11:23,210 --> 01:11:26,210 and so if there's no, you know, if there's no electricity, 1142 01:11:26,210 --> 01:11:28,210 and you don't want peanut butter and jelly for dinner, 1143 01:11:28,210 --> 01:11:30,210 come to my house and we'll make... 1144 01:11:30,210 --> 01:11:32,210 Not Doug's. 1145 01:11:32,210 --> 01:11:35,210 But to find, you know, to find each other, 1146 01:11:35,210 --> 01:11:38,210 to, you know, encourage versions of finding each other. 1147 01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:40,210 And it's not comprehensive by any means, 1148 01:11:40,210 --> 01:11:42,210 but it's doable. 1149 01:11:42,210 --> 01:11:45,210 Maybe even back to the captains then, or whatever. 1150 01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:48,210 Yeah, neighborhood captains, or, you know, seeing... 1151 01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:52,210 I mean, especially for people who have, 1152 01:11:52,210 --> 01:11:53,279 you know, 1153 01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:56,279 if they're on any kind of life support thing 1154 01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:58,279 that's going to depend on, 1155 01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:00,279 then they need to either have a generator 1156 01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:02,279 or know someone with a generator. 1157 01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:05,279 You know, my neighbors and I, we all say, 1158 01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:06,279 Okay, I have a stove. 1159 01:12:06,279 --> 01:12:07,279 Right. 1160 01:12:07,279 --> 01:12:09,279 My neighbor has a better generator than us. 1161 01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:10,279 Right. 1162 01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:12,279 But she doesn't have a stove that works on that generator, 1163 01:12:12,279 --> 01:12:13,279 and we trade around. 1164 01:12:13,279 --> 01:12:14,279 Exactly, exactly. 1165 01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:15,279 So maybe his neighbor was like, 1166 01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:16,279 I have a generator. 1167 01:12:16,279 --> 01:12:18,279 Do you have anything that's going to go bad in your fridge? 1168 01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:20,279 Because I don't have a generator. 1169 01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:21,279 Bring it up. 1170 01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:22,279 So, you know, that kind of... 1171 01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:24,279 I mean, can we get something like that organized? 1172 01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:25,279 I think at one time, 1173 01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:27,279 there was probably a greater sense of that in town. 1174 01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:29,279 Yeah, but let's start it up again. 1175 01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:31,279 Let's start the conversation. 1176 01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:34,279 I checked with my neighbors that I knew. 1177 01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:38,850 I called one path. 1178 01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:40,850 I'm fine. 1179 01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:41,850 Yeah, well, she tells me that 1180 01:12:41,850 --> 01:12:43,850 every time there's a problem. 1181 01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:44,850 We're fine. 1182 01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:45,850 They're fine. 1183 01:12:45,850 --> 01:12:46,850 They're in their 80s, 1184 01:12:46,850 --> 01:12:47,850 and they are always fine. 1185 01:12:47,850 --> 01:12:48,850 Right. 1186 01:12:48,850 --> 01:12:49,850 But they know the opportunity. 1187 01:12:49,850 --> 01:12:51,850 They literally sat in front of their gas stove 1188 01:12:51,850 --> 01:12:54,850 when they lost power in the winter, 1189 01:12:54,850 --> 01:12:55,850 opened the oven, 1190 01:12:55,850 --> 01:12:56,850 and that's where they stayed. 1191 01:12:56,850 --> 01:12:57,850 Yep. 1192 01:12:57,850 --> 01:12:58,850 They don't want to come out. 1193 01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:59,850 They kept warm by that. 1194 01:12:59,850 --> 01:13:00,850 And I said, 1195 01:13:00,850 --> 01:13:01,850 I got wood. 1196 01:13:01,850 --> 01:13:02,850 Come on up. 1197 01:13:02,850 --> 01:13:03,850 I got a generator. 1198 01:13:03,850 --> 01:13:04,850 Everything's the same as when we had power up in my house. 1199 01:13:04,850 --> 01:13:05,850 Yep. 1200 01:13:05,850 --> 01:13:06,850 We're good, 1201 01:13:06,850 --> 01:13:07,850 but thank you for asking. 1202 01:13:07,850 --> 01:13:08,850 Yep. 1203 01:13:08,850 --> 01:13:09,850 And another lady, 1204 01:13:09,850 --> 01:13:10,850 I said, 1205 01:13:10,850 --> 01:13:11,850 I've got the water. 1206 01:13:11,850 --> 01:13:12,850 Do you want a shower? 1207 01:13:12,850 --> 01:13:13,850 Nope. 1208 01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:14,850 I'm not opening my refrigerator freezer. 1209 01:13:14,850 --> 01:13:15,850 I have a gas stove. 1210 01:13:15,850 --> 01:13:16,850 I'm fine. 1211 01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:17,850 I can get my water for my... 1212 01:13:17,850 --> 01:13:18,850 You know, 1213 01:13:18,850 --> 01:13:19,850 this sense of self-reliance... 1214 01:13:19,850 --> 01:13:20,850 It's what it is. 1215 01:13:20,850 --> 01:13:22,850 It's beautiful and strong, 1216 01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:26,850 and it seems like encouraging some version 1217 01:13:26,850 --> 01:13:28,850 of those conversations... 1218 01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:29,850 So that's where I... 1219 01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:33,850 I don't want to lack... 1220 01:13:33,850 --> 01:13:34,850 Compassion. 1221 01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:35,850 Compassion, yeah. 1222 01:13:35,850 --> 01:13:36,850 Yeah. 1223 01:13:36,850 --> 01:13:38,850 But what constitutes an emergency? 1224 01:13:38,850 --> 01:13:40,850 Because they have to go to the bathroom? 1225 01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:41,850 Yes. 1226 01:13:41,850 --> 01:13:43,850 That's what I'm saying is, 1227 01:13:43,850 --> 01:13:45,949 and again, 1228 01:13:45,949 --> 01:13:48,949 I'm trying to be gentle here, 1229 01:13:48,949 --> 01:13:49,949 but if I have to go to the bathroom, 1230 01:13:49,949 --> 01:13:50,949 I've been here, 1231 01:13:50,949 --> 01:13:51,949 I've been camping before. 1232 01:13:51,949 --> 01:13:52,949 Yeah. 1233 01:13:52,949 --> 01:13:53,949 And not everybody lives in the woods. 1234 01:13:53,949 --> 01:13:54,949 Well, 1235 01:13:54,949 --> 01:13:55,949 but this is Stanford, 1236 01:13:55,949 --> 01:13:56,949 Vermont, 1237 01:13:56,949 --> 01:13:57,949 not New York City, 1238 01:13:57,949 --> 01:13:58,949 so I'm wondering why people... 1239 01:13:58,949 --> 01:13:59,949 Where does it end? 1240 01:13:59,949 --> 01:14:00,949 Because I do, 1241 01:14:00,949 --> 01:14:01,949 and again, 1242 01:14:01,949 --> 01:14:02,949 I'm not trying... 1243 01:14:02,949 --> 01:14:03,949 I know there's elderly people, 1244 01:14:03,949 --> 01:14:04,949 and I do agree with the neighborhood helping each other. 1245 01:14:04,949 --> 01:14:05,949 That's community. 1246 01:14:05,949 --> 01:14:06,949 And I would have no problem helping people, 1247 01:14:06,949 --> 01:14:07,949 but I don't have the time to go to all the training. 1248 01:14:07,949 --> 01:14:08,949 I mean, 1249 01:14:08,949 --> 01:14:09,949 I used to be a fireman. 1250 01:14:09,949 --> 01:14:10,949 I know what it takes to be a train... 1251 01:14:10,949 --> 01:14:11,949 To train just a... 1252 01:14:11,949 --> 01:14:12,949 That was, 1253 01:14:12,949 --> 01:14:13,949 what, 1254 01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:14,949 three years ago? 1255 01:14:14,949 --> 01:14:15,949 Yeah. 1256 01:14:15,949 --> 01:14:16,949 Three years ago. 1257 01:14:16,949 --> 01:14:17,949 Yeah. 1258 01:14:17,949 --> 01:14:18,949 Yeah. 1259 01:14:18,949 --> 01:14:19,949 So, 1260 01:14:19,949 --> 01:14:20,949 that was, 1261 01:14:20,949 --> 01:14:21,949 what, 1262 01:14:21,949 --> 01:14:22,949 30 years ago? 1263 01:14:22,949 --> 01:14:23,949 It's double that now. 1264 01:14:23,949 --> 01:14:24,949 So, 1265 01:14:24,949 --> 01:14:25,949 I understand all that, 1266 01:14:25,949 --> 01:14:26,949 but where does it end? 1267 01:14:26,949 --> 01:14:27,949 We had one time 1268 01:14:27,949 --> 01:14:28,949 where people wanted to come here 1269 01:14:28,949 --> 01:14:29,949 because they felt alone. 1270 01:14:29,949 --> 01:14:30,949 So, 1271 01:14:30,949 --> 01:14:31,949 they just want to come and talk, 1272 01:14:31,949 --> 01:14:32,949 but there's no emergency. 1273 01:14:32,949 --> 01:14:33,949 And that's where 1274 01:14:33,949 --> 01:14:34,949 that volunteer system 1275 01:14:34,949 --> 01:14:35,949 gets broke down 1276 01:14:35,949 --> 01:14:36,949 when they go, 1277 01:14:36,949 --> 01:14:37,949 jeez, 1278 01:14:37,949 --> 01:14:38,949 I know a guy 1279 01:14:38,949 --> 01:14:39,949 that does a soup kitchen right now. 1280 01:14:39,949 --> 01:14:40,949 He does a... 1281 01:14:40,949 --> 01:14:41,949 It's a Meals on Wheels, 1282 01:14:41,949 --> 01:14:42,949 and he loves to do it. 1283 01:14:42,949 --> 01:14:43,949 And he started with 40 people, 1284 01:14:43,949 --> 01:14:44,949 now they're up to 100 and something. 1285 01:14:44,949 --> 01:14:45,949 So, 1286 01:14:45,949 --> 01:14:46,949 that's where 1287 01:14:46,949 --> 01:14:47,949 that volunteer system 1288 01:14:47,949 --> 01:14:48,949 gets broken down. 1289 01:14:48,949 --> 01:14:49,949 So, 1290 01:14:49,949 --> 01:14:50,949 we're going to have 1291 01:14:50,949 --> 01:14:51,949 a meal 1292 01:14:51,949 --> 01:14:52,949 for 40 people 1293 01:14:52,949 --> 01:14:53,949 and we're going to have 1294 01:14:53,949 --> 01:14:54,949 a meal for 100 and something households 1295 01:14:54,949 --> 01:14:55,949 in North Adams. 1296 01:14:55,949 --> 01:14:56,949 But after he gives the free meal, 1297 01:14:56,949 --> 01:14:57,949 he sees the same person 1298 01:14:57,949 --> 01:14:58,949 down at Cumberland Farms 1299 01:14:58,949 --> 01:14:59,949 buying a pack of cigarettes 1300 01:14:59,949 --> 01:15:00,949 and it bothers him. 1301 01:15:00,949 --> 01:15:01,949 He keeps doing it, 1302 01:15:01,949 --> 01:15:02,949 but it bothers him. 1303 01:15:02,949 --> 01:15:03,949 Where does it end? 1304 01:15:03,949 --> 01:15:04,949 So, 1305 01:15:04,949 --> 01:15:05,949 I'm not saying 1306 01:15:05,949 --> 01:15:06,949 we shouldn't have 1307 01:15:06,949 --> 01:15:07,949 something in place, 1308 01:15:07,949 --> 01:15:08,949 but I really agree that 1309 01:15:08,949 --> 01:15:09,949 if we could take it 1310 01:15:09,949 --> 01:15:10,949 amongst ourselves, 1311 01:15:10,949 --> 01:15:11,949 not just in this room, 1312 01:15:11,949 --> 01:15:12,949 but pass the word along. 1313 01:15:12,949 --> 01:15:13,949 Me too. 1314 01:15:13,949 --> 01:15:14,949 Marta and I 1315 01:15:14,949 --> 01:15:15,949 and Dan Poffin 1316 01:15:15,949 --> 01:15:17,460 and Kurt 1317 01:15:17,460 --> 01:15:18,460 have talked about this, 1318 01:15:18,460 --> 01:15:19,460 I don't know, 1319 01:15:19,460 --> 01:15:20,460 informational thing 1320 01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:21,460 that we can do 1321 01:15:21,460 --> 01:15:22,460 whenever we can do it. 1322 01:15:22,460 --> 01:15:23,460 They already have 1323 01:15:23,460 --> 01:15:24,460 in the school 1324 01:15:24,460 --> 01:15:25,460 like a craft thing. 1325 01:15:25,460 --> 01:15:26,460 Have a booth 1326 01:15:26,460 --> 01:15:27,460 that says 1327 01:15:27,460 --> 01:15:28,460 this is what we suggest. 1328 01:15:28,460 --> 01:15:29,460 Here's some 1329 01:15:29,460 --> 01:15:30,460 here's some pamphlets 1330 01:15:30,460 --> 01:15:31,460 that you can go 1331 01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:32,460 to North Adams Shelter 1332 01:15:32,460 --> 01:15:33,460 which is open 1333 01:15:33,460 --> 01:15:34,460 or you can 1334 01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:35,460 these are things 1335 01:15:35,460 --> 01:15:36,460 where you can buy 1336 01:15:36,460 --> 01:15:37,460 a generator 1337 01:15:37,460 --> 01:15:38,460 and it's inexpensive 1338 01:15:38,460 --> 01:15:39,460 and how to use 1339 01:15:39,460 --> 01:15:40,460 a generator, 1340 01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:41,460 you know, 1341 01:15:41,460 --> 01:15:42,460 I don't know. 1342 01:15:42,460 --> 01:15:43,460 We can find ourselves 1343 01:15:43,460 --> 01:15:44,460 a community room 1344 01:15:44,460 --> 01:15:45,460 somewhere 1345 01:15:45,460 --> 01:15:46,460 that could go along 1346 01:15:46,460 --> 01:15:47,460 with helping 1347 01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:48,460 with some of this. 1348 01:15:48,460 --> 01:15:49,460 Yeah, 1349 01:15:49,460 --> 01:15:50,460 I mean, 1350 01:15:50,460 --> 01:15:51,460 what about 1351 01:15:51,460 --> 01:15:52,460 something like that, 1352 01:15:52,460 --> 01:15:53,460 like a phone tree? 1353 01:15:53,460 --> 01:15:54,460 I don't know 1354 01:15:54,460 --> 01:15:55,460 how that ever worked 1355 01:15:55,460 --> 01:15:56,460 or anything. 1356 01:15:56,460 --> 01:15:57,460 Some worked 1357 01:15:57,460 --> 01:15:58,460 and some did 1358 01:15:58,460 --> 01:15:59,460 and ours did. 1359 01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:00,460 Mary Lou did 1360 01:16:00,460 --> 01:16:01,460 was ours 1361 01:16:01,460 --> 01:16:02,460 and it worked. 1362 01:16:02,460 --> 01:16:03,460 It's all about 1363 01:16:03,460 --> 01:16:04,460 the person. 1364 01:16:04,460 --> 01:16:05,460 It's like Bill says 1365 01:16:05,460 --> 01:16:06,460 when you have 1366 01:16:06,460 --> 01:16:07,460 good volunteers 1367 01:16:07,460 --> 01:16:08,460 you're going to 1368 01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:09,460 have a good system. 1369 01:16:09,460 --> 01:16:10,460 Exactly, 1370 01:16:10,460 --> 01:16:11,460 but even just 1371 01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:12,460 having something 1372 01:16:12,460 --> 01:16:13,460 like at this resiliency 1373 01:16:13,460 --> 01:16:14,460 like fair 1374 01:16:14,460 --> 01:16:15,460 that we're talking about, 1375 01:16:15,460 --> 01:16:16,460 even having something 1376 01:16:16,460 --> 01:16:17,460 that's like 1377 01:16:17,460 --> 01:16:18,460 a checklist 1378 01:16:18,460 --> 01:16:19,460 for people 1379 01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:20,460 who are 1380 01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:21,460 you know, 1381 01:16:21,460 --> 01:16:22,460 in the event 1382 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:23,460 of a power outage, 1383 01:16:23,460 --> 01:16:24,460 what would be 1384 01:16:24,460 --> 01:16:25,460 the things 1385 01:16:25,460 --> 01:16:26,460 that you, 1386 01:16:26,460 --> 01:16:27,460 for them to think 1387 01:16:27,460 --> 01:16:28,460 for themselves 1388 01:16:28,460 --> 01:16:29,460 and then just be like 1389 01:16:29,460 --> 01:16:30,460 do you have 1390 01:16:30,460 --> 01:16:31,460 a resource 1391 01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:32,460 that you can reach out to 1392 01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:33,460 and similarly, 1393 01:16:33,460 --> 01:16:34,460 you know, 1394 01:16:34,460 --> 01:16:35,460 what resources 1395 01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:36,460 do you have 1396 01:16:36,460 --> 01:16:37,460 that you would be 1397 01:16:37,460 --> 01:16:38,460 able to share 1398 01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:39,460 with, 1399 01:16:39,460 --> 01:16:40,460 you know, 1400 01:16:40,460 --> 01:16:41,460 a limited number 1401 01:16:41,460 --> 01:16:42,460 so that you're not 1402 01:16:42,460 --> 01:16:43,460 taking everybody in, 1403 01:16:43,460 --> 01:16:44,460 you know, 1404 01:16:44,460 --> 01:16:45,460 that you could offer 1405 01:16:45,460 --> 01:16:46,460 to some of your neighbors. 1406 01:16:46,460 --> 01:16:47,460 Or neighbors, 1407 01:16:47,460 --> 01:16:48,460 host neighbors, 1408 01:16:48,460 --> 01:16:49,460 you know, 1409 01:16:49,460 --> 01:16:50,460 this last thing. 1410 01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:51,460 There were people 1411 01:16:51,460 --> 01:16:52,460 beautifully out, 1412 01:16:52,460 --> 01:16:53,460 it was very heartening 1413 01:16:53,460 --> 01:16:54,460 saying, 1414 01:16:54,460 --> 01:16:55,460 you know, 1415 01:16:55,460 --> 01:16:56,460 is anybody having trouble 1416 01:16:56,460 --> 01:16:57,460 in this storm? 1417 01:16:57,460 --> 01:16:58,460 Does anybody need help? 1418 01:16:58,460 --> 01:16:59,460 Which I just, 1419 01:16:59,460 --> 01:17:00,460 I was like, 1420 01:17:00,460 --> 01:17:01,460 this is a good question. 1421 01:17:01,460 --> 01:17:02,460 Emergency management 1422 01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:03,460 is, 1423 01:17:03,460 --> 01:17:04,460 they're all 1424 01:17:04,460 --> 01:17:05,460 great conversations. 1425 01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:06,460 I don't, 1426 01:17:06,460 --> 01:17:07,460 I just don't know 1427 01:17:07,460 --> 01:17:08,460 how to coalesce at all, 1428 01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:09,460 right? 1429 01:17:09,460 --> 01:17:10,460 How do we all 1430 01:17:10,460 --> 01:17:11,460 get together 1431 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:12,460 and start talking about 1432 01:17:12,460 --> 01:17:13,460 this stuff? 1433 01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:14,460 Each person kind of 1434 01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:15,460 has to be responsible 1435 01:17:15,460 --> 01:17:16,680 in finding 1436 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,680 what their 1437 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:18,909 emergency plan is. 1438 01:17:18,909 --> 01:17:19,909 The less, 1439 01:17:19,909 --> 01:17:20,909 the less formal training 1440 01:17:20,909 --> 01:17:21,909 you need, 1441 01:17:21,909 --> 01:17:22,909 the better 1442 01:17:22,909 --> 01:17:23,909 you can get things done. 1443 01:17:23,909 --> 01:17:24,909 Yeah. 1444 01:17:24,909 --> 01:17:25,909 It's just like, 1445 01:17:25,909 --> 01:17:26,909 go all the way back 1446 01:17:26,909 --> 01:17:27,909 to what John said, 1447 01:17:27,909 --> 01:17:28,909 this is the world 1448 01:17:28,909 --> 01:17:29,909 we live in. 1449 01:17:29,909 --> 01:17:30,909 The minute you become 1450 01:17:30,909 --> 01:17:31,909 a formal entity, 1451 01:17:31,909 --> 01:17:32,909 insurance, 1452 01:17:32,909 --> 01:17:33,909 liability, 1453 01:17:33,909 --> 01:17:34,909 all this, 1454 01:17:34,909 --> 01:17:35,909 all this, 1455 01:17:35,909 --> 01:17:36,909 kind of red tape 1456 01:17:36,909 --> 01:17:37,909 gets in the way 1457 01:17:37,909 --> 01:17:38,909 sometimes, 1458 01:17:38,909 --> 01:17:39,909 you know. 1459 01:17:39,909 --> 01:17:40,909 Informally, 1460 01:17:40,909 --> 01:17:41,909 every emergency, 1461 01:17:41,909 --> 01:17:42,909 every house 1462 01:17:42,909 --> 01:17:43,909 turns into a 1463 01:17:43,909 --> 01:17:44,909 permanent camp 1464 01:17:44,909 --> 01:17:45,909 for 60 days, 1465 01:17:45,909 --> 01:17:46,909 figure it out. 1466 01:17:46,909 --> 01:17:47,909 You know, 1467 01:17:47,909 --> 01:17:48,909 I worked up 1468 01:17:48,909 --> 01:17:49,909 and off. 1469 01:17:49,909 --> 01:17:50,909 They were my family members, 1470 01:17:50,909 --> 01:17:51,909 but apparently 1471 01:17:51,909 --> 01:17:52,909 I'm the guy 1472 01:17:52,909 --> 01:17:53,909 that knows 1473 01:17:53,909 --> 01:17:54,909 what I want to do. 1474 01:17:54,909 --> 01:17:55,909 But I have, 1475 01:17:55,909 --> 01:17:56,909 I have five generators, 1476 01:17:56,909 --> 01:17:57,909 so I had 1477 01:17:57,909 --> 01:17:58,909 two extra ones, 1478 01:17:58,909 --> 01:17:59,909 you know. 1479 01:17:59,909 --> 01:18:00,909 Like Bill said, 1480 01:18:00,909 --> 01:18:01,909 too, 1481 01:18:01,909 --> 01:18:02,909 if we open the school, 1482 01:18:02,909 --> 01:18:03,909 you have to go through 1483 01:18:03,909 --> 01:18:04,909 certain protocol, 1484 01:18:04,909 --> 01:18:05,909 the state, 1485 01:18:05,909 --> 01:18:06,909 local Red Cross, 1486 01:18:06,909 --> 01:18:07,909 and... 1487 01:18:07,909 --> 01:18:08,909 Now Bob did put... 1488 01:18:08,909 --> 01:18:09,909 ...become the caretaker 1489 01:18:09,909 --> 01:18:10,909 to everyone that's there. 1490 01:18:10,909 --> 01:18:11,909 Yeah. 1491 01:18:11,909 --> 01:18:12,909 Bob did put on Facebook, 1492 01:18:12,909 --> 01:18:13,909 if there's anybody 1493 01:18:13,909 --> 01:18:14,909 that is really 1494 01:18:14,909 --> 01:18:15,909 and truly need 1495 01:18:15,909 --> 01:18:16,909 anything, 1496 01:18:16,909 --> 01:18:17,909 call 911. 1497 01:18:17,909 --> 01:18:18,909 Yeah. 1498 01:18:18,909 --> 01:18:19,909 If you need anything, 1499 01:18:19,909 --> 01:18:20,909 call Bob 1500 01:18:20,909 --> 01:18:21,909 and he will 1501 01:18:21,909 --> 01:18:22,909 guide you 1502 01:18:22,909 --> 01:18:23,909 or get you out. 1503 01:18:23,909 --> 01:18:24,909 Bob does much better 1504 01:18:24,909 --> 01:18:25,909 with social media 1505 01:18:25,909 --> 01:18:26,909 than I ever did. 1506 01:18:26,909 --> 01:18:27,909 Sure, sure. 1507 01:18:27,909 --> 01:18:28,909 I don't have a Facebook account. 1508 01:18:28,909 --> 01:18:29,909 I'm not comfortable 1509 01:18:29,909 --> 01:18:30,909 trying to use it. 1510 01:18:30,909 --> 01:18:31,909 We tried 1511 01:18:31,909 --> 01:18:32,909 for years 1512 01:18:32,909 --> 01:18:33,909 to repeat 1513 01:18:33,909 --> 01:18:34,909 and repeat 1514 01:18:34,909 --> 01:18:35,909 it down 1515 01:18:35,909 --> 01:18:36,909 meeting 1516 01:18:36,909 --> 01:18:37,909 and minutes 1517 01:18:37,909 --> 01:18:38,909 for people 1518 01:18:38,909 --> 01:18:39,909 to reach out 1519 01:18:39,909 --> 01:18:41,390 if they need. 1520 01:18:41,390 --> 01:18:42,520 But... 1521 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:43,520 Did anybody 1522 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,520 ever fill out 1523 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,520 those forms 1524 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:46,520 that you had? 1525 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,520 What are your needs? 1526 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,520 Bring them back 1527 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,520 to... 1528 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,520 Did they go to 1529 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,520 the fire department 1530 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,520 or town office? 1531 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,520 I don't think 1532 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:55,520 they came here. 1533 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,520 I think they probably 1534 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:57,520 went to the fire department. 1535 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:58,520 What are your needs? 1536 01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,520 Do you... 1537 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:00,520 Are you on oxygen? 1538 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,520 Do you need... 1539 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,520 At one point... 1540 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,520 Well, 1541 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,520 you know how far back 1542 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:05,520 it goes? 1543 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,520 Yeah. 1544 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,520 There was a card 1545 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:08,520 attached 1546 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:09,520 or inserted 1547 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,520 to the town report 1548 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:11,520 and Yankee Atomic 1549 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,520 paid for it. 1550 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,520 Yeah. 1551 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,640 Yeah. 1552 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,640 And... 1553 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:16,640 We got 1554 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:17,640 probably about 1555 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,640 15 1556 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,739 thousand people 1557 01:19:20,739 --> 01:19:21,739 who had 1558 01:19:21,739 --> 01:19:23,119 to go 1559 01:19:23,119 --> 01:19:24,119 back 1560 01:19:24,119 --> 01:19:25,119 and do 1561 01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:26,119 a check-in 1562 01:19:26,119 --> 01:19:27,119 or something 1563 01:19:27,119 --> 01:19:28,119 because 1564 01:19:28,119 --> 01:19:29,119 people don't 1565 01:19:29,119 --> 01:19:30,119 want to 1566 01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:31,119 admit 1567 01:19:31,119 --> 01:19:32,119 that 1568 01:19:32,119 --> 01:19:33,119 they need 1569 01:19:33,119 --> 01:19:34,119 help. 1570 01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:35,119 They don't 1571 01:19:35,119 --> 01:19:37,119 want to identify 1572 01:19:37,119 --> 01:19:38,119 a medical 1573 01:19:38,119 --> 01:19:39,119 condition 1574 01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:40,119 that needs 1575 01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:41,119 assistance. 1576 01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:42,119 Yeah. 1577 01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:43,119 Well, 1578 01:19:43,119 --> 01:19:44,119 that's all 1579 01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:45,119 them then. 1580 01:19:45,119 --> 01:19:46,119 That's why 1581 01:19:46,119 --> 01:19:47,119 you train 1582 01:19:47,119 --> 01:19:48,119 everyone 1583 01:19:48,119 --> 01:20:05,960 out at town meeting in past years that little flip page booklet um done with delinquent docs 1584 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:15,279 correspondence correspondence so i received a letter from the irs this week i'm happy to report 1585 01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:22,319 that at least we have resolved the filing for the fourth quarter of december 2023. 1586 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:30,159 i'm happy um the other third quarter is up in the air and the first two quarters i have sent in 1587 01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:39,199 my letter disputing their findings and um ask them to recalculate and review the information and 1588 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,680 i don't know if john and dunn john and doug are familiar with what happened or 1589 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:53,199 so the irs loves it so we um you file your taxes and they're like oh hey 1590 01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:01,199 you we found out you owe more money than you gotta pay they want you to pay more money it's we um 1591 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:08,800 pay payroll every two weeks so we automatically would submit the withheld taxes to the irs every 1592 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:15,039 two weeks and then at some point they said look you you withhold less than fifty thousand dollars 1593 01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:21,119 of taxes in a year you should be paying them monthly not every two weeks so i got this letter 1594 01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:23,199 saying you need to change how you pay you need to change how you pay you need to change how you pay 1595 01:21:24,380 --> 01:21:30,859 okay recreate the wheel we started paying a monthly and then you know five months later 1596 01:21:30,859 --> 01:21:38,970 they sent us a terrific bill and said hey you didn't do it quarterly like you have been 1597 01:21:39,850 --> 01:21:46,409 and they charged us like eighteen hundred dollars in penalty interest for not filing it every two 1598 01:21:46,409 --> 01:21:52,810 weeks when they told me to file it monthly and i disputed it and they looked at it and said 1599 01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:59,930 sorry charlie you blow it and then when the second quarter i mean june 30th came through 1600 01:22:00,569 --> 01:22:08,010 they hit us again with another hundred dollars really maybe it's time to write our 1601 01:22:08,010 --> 01:22:13,609 representatives or our senators well yeah you know we were in between with laura civilian 1602 01:22:13,609 --> 01:22:19,239 leaving and then the new guy being sick and not really but um no but i mean you call uh 1603 01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:23,640 what's our representative and i'm talking congressional because if it's with the irs 1604 01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:30,439 well we've fought it and um you know hopefully this will work if not we'll continue with the 1605 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:36,279 change you finally got to talk to somebody right and i finally got to talk to someone and um 1606 01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:41,880 you know they guided me through fill out a schedule b and fill it out this way and maybe this 1607 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:48,439 will help them to recognize that i mean i would have never changed how i did it if they didn't 1608 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,720 write me a letter saying you have to do it monthly so and they have not even reviewed 1609 01:22:53,880 --> 01:23:00,279 that letter but i've gone back to filing it every two weeks like i always have and but the thing is 1610 01:23:00,279 --> 01:23:04,199 they have the money every two weeks instead of monthly you think they would be happy 1611 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:12,380 right right but they're sending it in on time and so it's just been a difficult um but it's good that 1612 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:18,439 we're not going to be fine for the third quarter our fourth quarter yeah the first two we've already 1613 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:23,239 been fine with them trying to get our money back the third quarter but we haven't made a decision 1614 01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:29,399 if we're going to go through with it again if we're going to write it anyway we don't necessarily 1615 01:23:29,399 --> 01:23:33,720 have a place where we can be might be a win or a loss and there's a lot of people i haven't 1616 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:38,359 spoken to in the last week and i think they're taking the plunge because you know they want to 1617 01:23:38,359 --> 01:23:42,680 create a new book series and they want to go get the book and they want to see the book and so 1618 01:23:43,239 --> 01:23:48,279 therefore i think you know we'll also be looking at that as well right what i'm saying with the 1619 01:23:48,279 --> 01:23:53,159 um i in in the survey that we did to the library community is actually to help our students how we 1620 01:23:53,159 --> 01:23:57,119 they tell you one thing you call another one and you get something completely the 1621 01:23:57,119 --> 01:24:14,939 right Ian does not good keep on Lord any other correspondence old business well I 1622 01:24:14,939 --> 01:24:20,699 guess I can mention this on our own business off the state troopers been in 1623 01:24:20,699 --> 01:24:27,180 town we get three days in a row actually it was on social media that he was here 1624 01:24:27,180 --> 01:24:31,859 one day and they said about time but he's been in town he was at least three 1625 01:24:31,859 --> 01:24:36,439 days I met him I wish I could remember his name right this second didn't write 1626 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,619 it down I've seen him he lives up in really hard 1627 01:24:40,619 --> 01:24:44,140 Sunday yes he the gentleman trying to find the order of the purple boy he was 1628 01:24:44,140 --> 01:24:50,239 I kind of was I had my first question is is so you stopped a guy he's mitted to 1629 01:24:50,239 --> 01:24:51,000 you he stole the bike 1630 01:24:51,020 --> 01:24:56,260 and you didn't ask him where it was came from because he was a lot because 1631 01:24:56,260 --> 01:24:59,600 the trooper was looking for the owner because so he's driving around asking 1632 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,319 anybody knows who the spike is and I'm like why did you ask the guy that's it I 1633 01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:09,000 don't know it's a good guy so but I mentioned while I had him had his 1634 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:14,239 attention I asked him to try to do more patrols down here he did mention the 1635 01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:18,439 same old story there's seven or eight of them and they have I don't really go 1636 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,020 from Manchester to Stanford you know so they got 1637 01:25:21,020 --> 01:25:25,300 a huge and there only work it's not like all a guys work in the same time 1638 01:25:25,300 --> 01:25:29,119 they have shifts so you have like three guys on duty 1639 01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:33,720 that means they're still six or seven understaffed right so it's just this is 1640 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,779 in the world it's too happy just couldn't give him just a cruise when it 1641 01:25:37,779 --> 01:25:44,779 goes out took aiem drive out a round he does and he has been you know I don't 1642 01:25:44,779 --> 01:25:48,380 know if anybody's seen him listen I'm he was that someone mentioned about 1643 01:25:48,380 --> 01:25:50,020 weekends wandering nights with Saturday night yeah I've seen him some time I know somebody now says see We've seen him a couple times on Saturday night when he goes out you know I don't know if anybody's ever saw him he was on someone mention about weekends what kinds of Saturday night yep Saturday night yep That means, was he sitting around on an empty bench? 1644 01:25:51,020 --> 01:25:55,640 so you can't get no better than Saturday night and he stayed all the way the 1645 01:25:55,640 --> 01:26:02,720 whole night back and forth yeah so you will hear down the road someone's gonna 1646 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:08,960 say why are state troopers in there I just got stopped that's too bad but I'm 1647 01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:14,659 just saying at least there's that he's closer now he might be able to do a 1648 01:26:14,659 --> 01:26:18,319 little bit more even it like you said even if he drives through once along it 1649 01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:29,600 comes down turns around that presence he's a very nice guy and I will get his 1650 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:36,020 name again I'm sorry I had it in my head and I can't remember his name I think 1651 01:26:36,020 --> 01:26:43,100 it's Stevens officer Stevens that's been pretty sure but yeah I just want to let 1652 01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:48,939 you know that he wasn't okay I just like 1653 01:26:48,939 --> 01:26:54,159 to remind the board that we're doing a site inspection on Thursday August 1st 1654 01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:59,619 at quarter of five which will begin at the Stanford school and we're going up 1655 01:26:59,619 --> 01:27:11,470 to the intersection of trail number 301 no yes that's what we're starting 301 1656 01:27:11,470 --> 01:27:21,810 so I have some signs proposals that's under old or new 1657 01:27:22,810 --> 01:27:29,789 different sizes this is just to get you an idea of what a three by four square 1658 01:27:29,789 --> 01:27:38,699 12-square sign look like nice 12-square three by four that's perfect that's great 1659 01:27:38,699 --> 01:27:42,979 that's three by four that's beautiful and then this one's a little different 1660 01:27:42,979 --> 01:27:48,199 a little smaller different format but this is what a 12-square sign is could 1661 01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:53,640 we do both sides so it's yeah so this is one side on top and 1662 01:27:53,640 --> 01:28:25,659 school so this is like 30 by 54 it seems like it jumps out a little bit more yeah 1663 01:28:25,659 --> 01:28:40,960 well I'm yeah we're doing a two-sided sign and so that's within the zone 1664 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:49,710 within the zone take the end off Stanford school town office library yeah 1665 01:28:49,710 --> 01:28:56,970 I don't know if you want public library town library just library just library 1666 01:28:56,970 --> 01:28:57,949 which one do you like 1667 01:28:58,409 --> 01:29:10,970 which one do you like we'll go with that one this one this is a smaller one 1668 01:29:10,970 --> 01:29:17,350 not by much are the letters bigger or the same for school the paper school 1669 01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:22,810 plans bigger I see him side by side 1670 01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:35,510 between a standard school town office by word yeah you don't even need public 1671 01:29:35,510 --> 01:29:45,960 just library yep and this one's 30 by 54 or something like that but there this 1672 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,720 one's under 12 square that one is 1673 01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:57,060 so that one fits in the bylaws they both they both do they both do 1674 01:29:57,060 --> 01:29:58,939 Can I take the and off and the public? 1675 01:29:58,939 --> 01:29:59,939 Yes. 1676 01:29:59,939 --> 01:30:00,939 Can you go back? 1677 01:30:01,060 --> 01:30:04,859 However, you guys want to sign I'm assuming it so you can see it driving both ways 1678 01:30:06,180 --> 01:30:08,539 Yeah, they're correct distance from the road 1679 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,680 We'll make sure we put it where it's supposed to be 1680 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,520 Yeah 1681 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,800 Can you put on the side 1682 01:30:32,340 --> 01:30:34,340 Just library 1683 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:44,659 Yeah, I mean this is just a general idea you guys can because change it however you guys want 1684 01:30:50,500 --> 01:30:55,380 For color yeah, yeah, maybe just take the public on 1685 01:30:55,380 --> 01:31:01,159 Polar very black or white. I don't know one coat. I know one person that would like green and white 1686 01:31:01,159 --> 01:31:06,859 I don't isn't that what the green yellow look like yellow or like the school of colors, right? 1687 01:31:07,819 --> 01:31:09,819 I do the Bobcat color 1688 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,689 I 1689 01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:15,430 Do you want 1690 01:31:17,689 --> 01:31:20,409 Hours to I guess the old sign was gray with 1691 01:31:21,529 --> 01:31:25,050 Jet has the questions gonna pay for it, so I've had several 1692 01:31:25,970 --> 01:31:31,170 Citizens in town that are willing to donate money. Mm-hmm. I'm willing to put money forward for a 1693 01:31:31,869 --> 01:31:34,270 Head if not foot it. Have you had a 1694 01:31:35,550 --> 01:31:37,810 Um jb3 quote of me 1695 01:31:39,170 --> 01:31:42,310 Like 700 bucks to do a seater sign two sides 1696 01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:47,510 And then you would have to 1697 01:31:47,609 --> 01:31:55,500 Install and whatever else but right. I mean I've already been told someone's like I'll give you $250 so 1698 01:31:55,579 --> 01:32:06,720 I don't think money's gonna be an issue so based on these two which one did you 1699 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:12,359 like the best I like this one if we get rid of the hand and just say library I 1700 01:32:12,359 --> 01:32:34,609 like the long oh yeah you can probably do all in the same size right instead of 1701 01:32:34,609 --> 01:32:39,590 gold I figured to see if the school you want bigger because then I mean it makes 1702 01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:42,770 all the same size 1703 01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:47,189 yeah you probably have to go all does this you probably have to all go to like 1704 01:32:47,189 --> 01:32:50,989 this size or a size in between to get it all the fit and I like it just the way 1705 01:32:50,989 --> 01:32:56,479 this yeah I think having it different sizes jumps out makes it look like three 1706 01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:02,100 different things if all the words are exactly the same size it's gonna blend 1707 01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:04,300 together 1708 01:33:05,659 --> 01:33:10,979 yeah just know take the inside out and show where as it goes down yeah yeah 1709 01:33:10,979 --> 01:33:13,050 first period 1710 01:33:13,289 --> 01:33:16,090 yeah I like that I like this one 1711 01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:28,859 I think you're out of it oh well Mike said you like that one too well we'll see 1712 01:33:28,859 --> 01:33:32,100 what looks like should we hang them in here a lot of people think about it for 1713 01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:37,319 a couple days or what oh boy oh boy 1714 01:33:37,319 --> 01:33:42,319 John so he took the time to look at the guidelines for visual safety when you were drawing in a morgue year 1715 01:33:42,319 --> 01:33:43,319 Oh boy! Oh boy! I guess we'll hear from John so he took the time to look at the guidelines for visual safety when you were drawing in a morgue year 1716 01:33:43,319 --> 01:33:46,319 at 35,000 hours 1717 01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:47,319 What's that? 1718 01:33:47,319 --> 01:33:51,319 Guidelines for operating motor vehicle safety 1719 01:33:51,319 --> 01:33:52,319 Okay 1720 01:33:52,319 --> 01:33:57,319 There are guidelines for how big a font has to be visible safely from there 1721 01:33:57,319 --> 01:34:00,319 Dave do you know that? It is online 1722 01:34:00,319 --> 01:34:05,319 Well there is but I don't that's not a regulatory sign it's just a 1723 01:34:05,319 --> 01:34:08,319 Location sign yeah it's not a road sign 1724 01:34:08,319 --> 01:34:09,319 Okay 1725 01:34:09,319 --> 01:34:11,319 It's gonna be better than what we have now 1726 01:34:11,319 --> 01:34:13,319 So the next step then is 1727 01:34:13,319 --> 01:34:16,319 We have to apply for building permit 1728 01:34:16,319 --> 01:34:19,319 Hey talk to Deb say this is our submit that 1729 01:34:19,319 --> 01:34:22,319 Submit what the final result we'll submit 1730 01:34:22,319 --> 01:34:26,319 We'll tell her it's gonna go within the distance of where we have to put it 1731 01:34:26,319 --> 01:34:29,670 And file a permit 1732 01:34:29,670 --> 01:34:33,670 She should be able to approve it right then and there if it's within everything 1733 01:34:33,670 --> 01:34:36,670 And done deal it shouldn't even have to go to any boards 1734 01:34:36,670 --> 01:34:37,670 Right 1735 01:34:37,670 --> 01:34:38,670 Before we finalize the whole 1736 01:34:38,670 --> 01:34:39,670 What about the location then? 1737 01:34:39,670 --> 01:34:41,670 Well as I'm saying we'll have to go within the location 1738 01:34:41,670 --> 01:34:42,670 But you also have to consider the 1739 01:34:42,670 --> 01:34:44,670 The post that's gonna be on 1740 01:34:44,670 --> 01:34:48,560 Are they both three places 1741 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,560 The post can go behind well in the middle 1742 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,560 So that was a question 1743 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,560 That was a question I had before we started was 1744 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,560 Do the post come into play with the size of the sign 1745 01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:58,560 I don't know 1746 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,970 I would say no I mean 1747 01:35:01,970 --> 01:35:03,970 You're talking the sign you know 1748 01:35:03,970 --> 01:35:04,970 Yeah so 1749 01:35:04,970 --> 01:35:05,970 I think we have an argument 1750 01:35:05,970 --> 01:35:06,970 So if you put 1751 01:35:06,970 --> 01:35:08,970 So you can put the post if it's a double sized sign 1752 01:35:08,970 --> 01:35:10,970 Maybe you can put the post in between the sign 1753 01:35:10,970 --> 01:35:13,970 Right so then it's just sticking out the bottom and that's fine 1754 01:35:13,970 --> 01:35:14,970 Yeah 1755 01:35:14,970 --> 01:35:18,970 If you put it on the building you wouldn't consider the size of the building for a sign 1756 01:35:18,970 --> 01:35:20,970 So it's the same thing 1757 01:35:20,970 --> 01:35:25,460 Okay 1758 01:35:25,460 --> 01:35:27,460 Well what's the speed limit 30 isn't it 1759 01:35:27,460 --> 01:35:29,460 Coming through town they shouldn't be going that fast anyway 1760 01:35:29,460 --> 01:35:31,460 Not when it's not school time 1761 01:35:31,460 --> 01:35:33,460 Yeah I'm not worried about that I just 1762 01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:35,460 I'm not sure about the post I don't know 1763 01:35:35,460 --> 01:35:36,460 I don't know either 1764 01:35:36,460 --> 01:35:39,460 That's a good question for our planning board committee 1765 01:35:39,460 --> 01:35:40,460 That's the CPA 1766 01:35:40,460 --> 01:35:41,460 Yep 1767 01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:43,460 I think it shouldn't be 1768 01:35:43,460 --> 01:35:46,460 From a high school standpoint only matters if it's in the right way 1769 01:35:46,460 --> 01:35:48,460 As far as what you use for a post 1770 01:35:48,460 --> 01:35:51,460 If it's in the right way which we can't have it in the right way anyway 1771 01:35:51,460 --> 01:35:52,460 Correct 1772 01:35:52,460 --> 01:35:54,460 If it were it'd have to be breakaway or shielded 1773 01:35:54,460 --> 01:35:55,680 Right 1774 01:35:55,680 --> 01:36:00,680 So if it's not in the right way I'm not sure it matters 1775 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,510 Okay 1776 01:36:02,510 --> 01:36:07,510 Well I think we should do a final draft and present it to them 1777 01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:10,510 See if it goes through and then we'll go from there 1778 01:36:10,510 --> 01:36:11,510 Yep 1779 01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:14,510 If it don't and we have to go and ask for appearance because of the 1780 01:36:14,510 --> 01:36:17,510 If it's the poles or the location or whatever 1781 01:36:17,510 --> 01:36:18,510 Yeah the size 1782 01:36:18,510 --> 01:36:19,510 Right 1783 01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:20,510 Smaller 1784 01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:22,510 This one that we were looking at is slightly below 1785 01:36:22,510 --> 01:36:23,510 Slightly under 1786 01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:24,510 Right 1787 01:36:24,510 --> 01:36:25,510 So that would give us 1788 01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:27,510 Four by four post sticking out that much isn't going to add much 1789 01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:28,510 That would give us leeway 1790 01:36:28,510 --> 01:36:29,510 It's only four right 1791 01:36:29,510 --> 01:36:33,510 Yeah it's like 11.25 square and the other one is 12 square 1792 01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:36,510 So the 11.25 is better anyway for the 1793 01:36:36,510 --> 01:36:39,510 If we had that post close 1794 01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:41,510 And they say if it's within what 5% or something 1795 01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:44,510 Well you can see how big of a sign you get for 12 square 1796 01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:47,510 I mean it's not a bad size 1797 01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:48,510 Nope 1798 01:36:48,510 --> 01:36:52,510 I mean if you got to make it a little smaller or accommodate the posts 1799 01:36:52,510 --> 01:36:53,510 Then I think 1800 01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:55,510 That's a lot bigger than what we were pointing at 1801 01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:56,510 Yeah 1802 01:36:56,510 --> 01:36:57,510 Good job 1803 01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:58,510 Yep 1804 01:36:58,510 --> 01:36:59,510 Very good 1805 01:36:59,510 --> 01:37:00,510 I think we should move on 1806 01:37:00,510 --> 01:37:02,090 Do what 1807 01:37:02,090 --> 01:37:04,909 Yes 1808 01:37:04,909 --> 01:37:06,909 Anything else under old business 1809 01:37:06,909 --> 01:37:10,859 Yep 1810 01:37:10,859 --> 01:37:15,050 Um next meeting hazardous mitigation plan 1811 01:37:15,050 --> 01:37:19,050 Dara will be here for 15 minutes to review the plan 1812 01:37:19,050 --> 01:37:26,090 I think that she wants to do the 15th not 1813 01:37:26,090 --> 01:37:28,090 Oh the 15th 1814 01:37:28,090 --> 01:37:30,090 I think she can't do the first 1815 01:37:30,090 --> 01:37:31,220 Okay 1816 01:37:31,220 --> 01:37:33,279 Whatever date it is then 1817 01:37:33,279 --> 01:37:34,949 15 1818 01:37:34,949 --> 01:37:36,949 I think it's 8-15 she wants 1819 01:37:36,949 --> 01:37:41,000 8-15 1820 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,770 And while we're on that 1821 01:37:43,770 --> 01:37:45,770 8-15 1822 01:37:45,770 --> 01:37:47,770 August 15 1823 01:37:47,770 --> 01:37:49,770 August 15 1824 01:37:49,770 --> 01:37:55,979 You'll also have a liquor board meeting prior to that meeting 1825 01:37:55,979 --> 01:37:56,979 I'll try to remind you 1826 01:37:56,979 --> 01:37:58,979 So the next meeting coming up 1827 01:37:58,979 --> 01:38:00,979 You'll have to be early to the site visit 1828 01:38:00,979 --> 01:38:03,979 And the meeting after that you'll have to be early again 1829 01:38:03,979 --> 01:38:06,979 Because you'll have a liquor board meeting for Bill Muntz 1830 01:38:06,979 --> 01:38:09,300 Okay 1831 01:38:09,300 --> 01:38:11,300 The state has staggered them now 1832 01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:13,300 Instead of just having them all in one shot 1833 01:38:13,300 --> 01:38:16,300 We used to do them all in like February, March 1834 01:38:16,300 --> 01:38:17,300 So 1835 01:38:17,300 --> 01:38:20,359 Who was in charge of the liquor board? 1836 01:38:20,359 --> 01:38:21,359 We 1837 01:38:21,359 --> 01:38:22,359 We all are 1838 01:38:22,359 --> 01:38:23,359 We all are 1839 01:38:23,359 --> 01:38:25,390 Well I was just asking because the last 1840 01:38:25,390 --> 01:38:27,390 There was a meeting or two before 1841 01:38:27,390 --> 01:38:28,390 And it had different names on it 1842 01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:30,390 I was just curious 1843 01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:32,390 If they were the same people or not 1844 01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:34,550 It was funny we call it liquor board 1845 01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:36,550 But it's really the beer and wine 1846 01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:37,550 Right 1847 01:38:37,550 --> 01:38:38,649 Yeah 1848 01:38:38,649 --> 01:38:40,649 And the state usually sends us notices 1849 01:38:40,649 --> 01:38:42,649 Or sends them to Lori if there's violations 1850 01:38:42,649 --> 01:38:44,649 So we would look at that 1851 01:38:44,649 --> 01:38:47,060 We can approve it 1852 01:38:47,060 --> 01:38:51,779 Or not approve it 1853 01:38:51,779 --> 01:38:53,779 Any other new business? 1854 01:38:53,779 --> 01:38:58,140 Does anyone know what's going on with the burnt out house on Mill Road? 1855 01:38:58,140 --> 01:39:00,329 Any information on it? 1856 01:39:00,329 --> 01:39:03,329 Someone told me that there was lights going on off there 1857 01:39:03,329 --> 01:39:04,329 Like there 1858 01:39:04,329 --> 01:39:05,329 So I guess the concern was that kids might be going there? 1859 01:39:05,329 --> 01:39:06,329 No 1860 01:39:06,329 --> 01:39:07,329 If you notice anything 1861 01:39:07,329 --> 01:39:09,420 I would hope that the power would be shut off if it was 1862 01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:10,420 Had a fire in there 1863 01:39:10,420 --> 01:39:11,420 Maybe there was a flashlight 1864 01:39:11,420 --> 01:39:12,420 Oh yeah yeah 1865 01:39:12,420 --> 01:39:13,420 Some flashlights 1866 01:39:13,420 --> 01:39:14,510 I guess the concern was that someone might get injured in the house 1867 01:39:14,510 --> 01:39:15,510 Kid or whatever 1868 01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:16,510 Just thought I'd mention it 1869 01:39:16,510 --> 01:39:17,510 Oh I hope the homeowner's got good insurance 1870 01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:18,510 In case someone gets hurt in there 1871 01:39:18,510 --> 01:39:19,510 I believe there's an ongoing investigation so 1872 01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:20,510 If they take the house down they won't be able to rebuild it 1873 01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:21,510 That's you know 1874 01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:23,409 I don't know 1875 01:39:23,409 --> 01:39:24,409 I don't know 1876 01:39:24,409 --> 01:39:25,409 I don't know 1877 01:39:25,409 --> 01:39:26,409 I don't know 1878 01:39:26,409 --> 01:39:27,409 I don't know 1879 01:39:27,409 --> 01:39:28,409 I don't know 1880 01:39:28,409 --> 01:39:29,409 I don't know 1881 01:39:29,409 --> 01:39:30,409 I don't know 1882 01:39:30,409 --> 01:39:31,409 I don't know 1883 01:39:31,409 --> 01:39:32,409 I don't know 1884 01:39:32,409 --> 01:39:33,409 I don't know 1885 01:39:33,409 --> 01:39:34,409 I don't know 1886 01:39:34,409 --> 01:39:35,760 I don't know 1887 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:36,760 I don't 1888 01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:37,760 I don't know 1889 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:38,760 We know 1890 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:39,600 You know 1891 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:42,760 Okay 1892 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:43,760 Another site visit 1893 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:44,760 Anything else? 1894 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:45,760 Yes 1895 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:46,760 I'd like to make a motion 1896 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:50,920 To go into executive session for personnel 1897 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:52,399 During that executive session 1898 01:39:52,399 --> 01:39:53,810 I would like to ask Dave 1899 01:39:53,810 --> 01:39:56,949 I don't know if you were going to 1900 01:39:56,949 --> 01:39:57,949 Oh no 1901 01:39:57,949 --> 01:39:58,949 I would like to ask Dave 1902 01:39:58,949 --> 01:39:59,970 Just to stay for five minutes 1903 01:39:59,970 --> 01:40:00,970 Out of questions 1904 01:40:00,970 --> 01:40:03,210 It's nothing to do with personnel 1905 01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:05,369 It's another matter about 1906 01:40:05,369 --> 01:40:06,369 Maybe a purchase 1907 01:40:06,369 --> 01:40:06,770 Right 1908 01:40:06,789 --> 01:40:23,680 Thank you very much for coming, good meeting and thank you. 1909 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:24,680 Good. 1910 01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:51,279 Tom, my first wife died from eating poison mushrooms. 1911 01:40:51,279 --> 01:40:55,359 My second wife died from gunshot wound, she wanted to eat the poison mushrooms. 1912 01:40:55,800 --> 01:41:04,909 I used to pick them all the time, the cows are in here, don't worry about them, the cows 1913 01:41:04,909 --> 01:41:05,909 won't bother you. 1914 01:41:05,909 --> 01:41:06,909 We'll get it. 1915 01:41:06,909 --> 01:41:07,909 Alright, good night, thank you. 1916 01:41:07,909 --> 01:41:08,909 Alright, so that's the one. 1917 01:41:08,909 --> 01:41:09,909 Oh yes, just accepted Denalt's letter. 1918 01:41:09,909 --> 01:41:30,159 Johnny thought if you need any money for that sign, let me know, that's a no brainer. 1919 01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:31,659 Let's get this behind us. 1920 01:41:31,659 --> 01:41:38,659 I'll look into her concern with the font size and see if that's an issue or whatever. 1921 01:41:38,659 --> 01:41:46,659 I think it's, Dave talked to her when he left and it's more of like her road signs and regulatory 1922 01:41:46,659 --> 01:41:47,659 stuff. 1923 01:41:47,659 --> 01:41:51,659 I think you just got to maybe check with Deb and say here's our... 1924 01:41:51,659 --> 01:41:52,659 Yeah, she'll tell us. 1925 01:41:52,659 --> 01:41:57,159 Yeah, so I'll have another one made up, I'll have the end taken off, the public taken off, 1926 01:41:57,159 --> 01:41:58,159 just the library. 1927 01:41:58,159 --> 01:41:59,159 And if Dad comes with something... 1928 01:41:59,159 --> 01:42:00,159 And I'll leave it. 1929 01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:05,760 I'll leave it here in the office so Deb can check it out and then, I don't know, we'll 1930 01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:06,760 go from there. 1931 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:07,760 We can do the permit. 1932 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:08,760 We can ask her about the post card. 1933 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:09,760 We'll ask her about the post, the poster card of the sign. 1934 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:10,760 It was never clear on whether it did or not. 1935 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:20,760 I feel like the 12 square feet for this town sign is...