1 00:00:02,799 --> 00:00:11,750 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 2 00:00:11,750 --> 00:00:43,759 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 3 00:00:43,780 --> 00:01:05,230 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 4 00:01:05,230 --> 00:01:22,750 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 5 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:47,500 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 6 00:01:47,500 --> 00:02:00,439 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 7 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:02,569 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 8 00:02:02,569 --> 00:02:04,569 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 9 00:02:04,569 --> 00:02:06,569 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 10 00:02:06,569 --> 00:02:08,569 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 11 00:02:08,569 --> 00:02:10,569 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 12 00:02:10,569 --> 00:02:12,729 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 13 00:02:12,729 --> 00:02:14,729 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 14 00:02:14,729 --> 00:02:16,889 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God. 15 00:02:30,889 --> 00:02:37,979 own it um it's got vines growing up it um the way the young kids drive on that road if you get out 16 00:02:37,979 --> 00:02:42,860 there fair enough there's somebody's gonna get hurt and on the left-hand side there's two partially 17 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:48,939 dead trees these trees are this big around vines growing up you cannot see last week i got out 18 00:02:48,939 --> 00:02:55,180 where i could see i was just about ready to put on my gas and a guy had a 10 speed bike just about 19 00:02:55,180 --> 00:03:03,719 three something needs to be done on top of that wing so you can see both ways dave can you look 20 00:03:03,719 --> 00:03:09,159 into that yeah i mean i don't disagree i'd love to have them come down i get irritated 21 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:17,419 pulling out of there myself i just really don't have any policy i'm sure so um you know usually 22 00:03:17,419 --> 00:03:24,699 trees are bad and people want to take it down this is more of a safety issue 23 00:03:28,729 --> 00:03:29,370 they're in the right 24 00:03:29,849 --> 00:03:36,169 you certainly can take them down so i was just there 25 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:45,129 i mean i'd love to have them taken now obviously i can't do it myself right now what about the even 26 00:03:45,129 --> 00:03:51,610 the bushes in the back there seem to be yeah the ones on the left need to be cut back quite a bit 27 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:56,090 but there's an angle where you can't see between the two trees on the left that's why i did not see 28 00:03:56,090 --> 00:04:01,770 the guy in the bike he was doing a good clip and the one on the right the owner of that house has 29 00:04:01,770 --> 00:04:02,650 flowers on it 30 00:04:02,729 --> 00:04:08,810 and there's this side and then he's got a fence you just can't see a carpenter's upon copy of 31 00:04:08,810 --> 00:04:13,770 something like a whole row of knotweed there or something yeah yeah is there such a distance 32 00:04:13,770 --> 00:04:19,850 that the talent is liable for of the center of the road well right away on east road 33 00:04:19,850 --> 00:04:26,759 is actually viable but it's not viable right it's it's is our right and we cannot we can 34 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:27,879 . 35 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:33,870 trees are a funny thing in this in this search oh yeah well you did a really good job of 36 00:04:34,069 --> 00:04:39,970 It's not that we're taking them down for no reason, but they're big old maples. 37 00:04:40,170 --> 00:04:41,310 They're public shade trees. 38 00:04:43,269 --> 00:04:46,319 Some of these might have an issue with it, I'm saying. 39 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,459 If you want to have even more than that, you need to get somebody to come look at it now. 40 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:52,319 It's just... 41 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:56,680 Can you contact the landowner and ask them if they want to remove them? 42 00:04:56,779 --> 00:04:57,500 Remove them. 43 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,459 It's a hazard. 44 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:00,699 Yeah. 45 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:05,569 And I'll be aware of it. 46 00:05:06,089 --> 00:05:06,290 All right? 47 00:05:06,569 --> 00:05:06,769 Yeah. 48 00:05:06,769 --> 00:05:07,230 Thank you. 49 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:09,250 Where's the other two dead ones? 50 00:05:09,370 --> 00:05:10,709 In front of the old? 51 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:12,230 There's one. 52 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:16,709 There's one on the right. 53 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:20,589 There's one on the left. 54 00:05:20,850 --> 00:05:21,310 Is that on? 55 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:22,529 There's only two on the right. 56 00:05:22,649 --> 00:05:23,990 They all have vines growing up. 57 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:26,069 You can't see them. 58 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:29,189 Is that the old one in place? 59 00:05:29,370 --> 00:05:29,509 Yeah. 60 00:05:29,870 --> 00:05:30,730 At least the one on the road. 61 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:31,490 On the corner. 62 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:33,389 All right. 63 00:05:33,829 --> 00:05:34,170 Thank you. 64 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:34,629 Okay. 65 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:37,529 So you want me to contact them? 66 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:40,029 The landowners or get in contact with them? 67 00:05:40,610 --> 00:05:44,189 Well, it might be the best, you know, just way to go about it. 68 00:05:44,569 --> 00:05:48,470 Well, now that we say we don't have a good policy on trees, 69 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:54,449 maybe we ought to look at a policy on trees that maybe some other towns have 70 00:05:54,449 --> 00:05:56,149 and look into it and see what we can do. 71 00:05:56,610 --> 00:05:59,509 If we have to hire someone to come in and cut those trees down, 72 00:05:59,649 --> 00:06:01,110 there's people out there who can do it. 73 00:06:01,290 --> 00:06:02,430 What are the responsibilities? 74 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:03,730 And then there's a lot of trees. 75 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:07,529 I mean, usually if they're posing an immediate threat, 76 00:06:07,649 --> 00:06:09,949 we have the right to deal with the tree. 77 00:06:10,949 --> 00:06:13,649 I mean, these trees have been that way for probably as long. 78 00:06:14,269 --> 00:06:14,629 Right. 79 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:18,430 One is just a 10-foot stump with, you know, a unit of all the vines all over it. 80 00:06:18,430 --> 00:06:20,470 The dead stump shouldn't be an issue. 81 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:23,470 You wouldn't think it would be an issue, but it also can be a snag tree. 82 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:24,629 I mean, there's so many. 83 00:06:25,069 --> 00:06:30,829 I've run into so many issues with cutting trees and what kind of year it is. 84 00:06:30,829 --> 00:06:35,829 I think we're beyond that where it could be a snag tree and it's for bats. 85 00:06:36,089 --> 00:06:37,290 I mean, you know, so. 86 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:43,629 Once we start cutting trees, the dead trees, do you have one need to be cut? 87 00:06:43,629 --> 00:06:45,970 And maybe you have one that needs to be cut where we. 88 00:06:46,310 --> 00:06:51,730 I mean, this is really, I was kind of wondering what's the distance off the road 89 00:06:51,730 --> 00:06:53,310 that the town is responsible for? 90 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:54,689 Are they into the power line? 91 00:06:55,050 --> 00:06:58,009 They're just going to be like, oh, we can't be cutting people's trees down. 92 00:06:58,490 --> 00:06:59,370 No, no, no. 93 00:06:59,370 --> 00:06:59,949 It's their tree. 94 00:07:00,189 --> 00:07:01,589 It's their tree anyway. 95 00:07:01,750 --> 00:07:02,509 I've seen it. 96 00:07:02,810 --> 00:07:03,509 The town is. 97 00:07:03,769 --> 00:07:06,649 I mean, if they're in the line, they're probably going to be pretty much out. 98 00:07:06,649 --> 00:07:07,509 Tomorrow night. 99 00:07:07,550 --> 00:07:19,589 You know, if we, if we said we had a policy to cut these trees down because it's a hazard, 100 00:07:19,769 --> 00:07:20,829 we can cut them down. 101 00:07:22,379 --> 00:07:22,959 There's just. 102 00:07:23,540 --> 00:07:25,879 Should we treat this like we've done with. 103 00:07:26,139 --> 00:07:26,560 Right, right. 104 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,459 So it's kind of. 105 00:07:27,579 --> 00:07:27,740 Right. 106 00:07:27,899 --> 00:07:31,399 Like Nancy said, we don't want to cut two trees down and have everybody in the town say, 107 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,420 oh, cut mine down. 108 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:32,699 Right. 109 00:07:32,879 --> 00:07:34,000 I got a whole bunch of pine trees. 110 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,220 I'd love to have them cut their own down. 111 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:37,779 Should we send them a letter, though? 112 00:07:37,839 --> 00:07:38,600 I'm thinking that. 113 00:07:39,019 --> 00:07:39,860 Should we treat it like. 114 00:07:40,019 --> 00:07:42,079 They're, they're owning them. 115 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:42,620 Right. 116 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:48,899 But also when we have the problem with the animals running out in the road up the north end. 117 00:07:49,060 --> 00:07:49,360 Mm-hmm. 118 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,160 It could cause an accident. 119 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,339 Yeah. 120 00:07:51,339 --> 00:07:56,079 That we sent them a letter that this could be a hazard for people going by. 121 00:07:56,899 --> 00:07:58,500 You can't see down the road. 122 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,779 Take action. 123 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:04,540 Yeah. 124 00:08:05,019 --> 00:08:06,220 Should we try that first? 125 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:06,439 Mm-hmm. 126 00:08:06,439 --> 00:08:07,139 We send them, okay. 127 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:08,720 Because they definitely own the tree. 128 00:08:08,819 --> 00:08:09,759 We don't own the tree. 129 00:08:10,139 --> 00:08:10,339 Right. 130 00:08:12,329 --> 00:08:12,389 Right. 131 00:08:12,389 --> 00:08:12,569 So. 132 00:08:13,209 --> 00:08:14,569 We don't want to. 133 00:08:15,449 --> 00:08:15,730 No. 134 00:08:16,350 --> 00:08:16,629 Like. 135 00:08:17,389 --> 00:08:17,870 Well, then we're. 136 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:18,790 That's what I was going to say. 137 00:08:18,889 --> 00:08:21,410 Somehow, can we write a letter, like, you know, bop. 138 00:08:22,490 --> 00:08:24,310 You know, these are your trees, you know. 139 00:08:24,670 --> 00:08:25,149 You could, like. 140 00:08:25,149 --> 00:08:25,910 Well, if you really. 141 00:08:25,910 --> 00:08:27,089 You could, like, open them up. 142 00:08:27,089 --> 00:08:30,970 If you sent me that letter, and I wanted to cut it, I'd say, go ahead, cut them. 143 00:08:31,009 --> 00:08:31,209 Yeah. 144 00:08:31,269 --> 00:08:31,389 Right. 145 00:08:31,389 --> 00:08:32,330 I don't want to pay for it. 146 00:08:32,350 --> 00:08:32,549 Right. 147 00:08:32,549 --> 00:08:32,789 No. 148 00:08:32,970 --> 00:08:33,129 Right. 149 00:08:34,149 --> 00:08:34,470 So. 150 00:08:34,769 --> 00:08:36,549 Unless I wanted to keep the trees, I would. 151 00:08:37,029 --> 00:08:39,970 If I did put up a hassle, I'd say to the town, go ahead and cut them. 152 00:08:40,649 --> 00:08:41,009 Instead. 153 00:08:41,009 --> 00:08:43,009 We've got to work in a way where they realize that it's. 154 00:08:43,370 --> 00:08:43,909 It's a hazard. 155 00:08:44,029 --> 00:08:44,289 Would. 156 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:45,350 If it fell. 157 00:08:45,629 --> 00:08:46,669 Or caused an accident. 158 00:08:46,929 --> 00:08:49,269 Would it be their responsibility that. 159 00:08:49,830 --> 00:08:50,350 I don't call it. 160 00:08:50,350 --> 00:08:51,029 It's caused an accident. 161 00:08:51,029 --> 00:08:51,649 It's a natural. 162 00:08:51,649 --> 00:08:52,669 It's a natural. 163 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:54,529 And you're not driving the vehicle. 164 00:08:54,850 --> 00:08:56,070 Unless you push the tree. 165 00:08:56,269 --> 00:08:56,429 It wouldn't. 166 00:08:57,610 --> 00:08:58,009 Right. 167 00:08:58,429 --> 00:08:59,029 Do we have to. 168 00:08:59,129 --> 00:08:59,830 There's a general. 169 00:09:00,110 --> 00:09:00,830 Is there a bureau? 170 00:09:01,049 --> 00:09:04,149 That allows us to react to the emergency. 171 00:09:04,509 --> 00:09:05,529 So there's a response. 172 00:09:05,889 --> 00:09:06,289 Emergency. 173 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:06,769 Yeah. 174 00:09:07,149 --> 00:09:07,309 So. 175 00:09:07,490 --> 00:09:08,610 Is that a useful case? 176 00:09:09,009 --> 00:09:10,230 He knows the trees have been there. 177 00:09:10,409 --> 00:09:10,730 Right. 178 00:09:11,029 --> 00:09:11,730 That's the problem. 179 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:12,669 That's the problem. 180 00:09:12,669 --> 00:09:12,929 That's the problem. 181 00:09:12,929 --> 00:09:12,950 That's the problem. 182 00:09:12,950 --> 00:09:13,009 That's the problem. 183 00:09:13,009 --> 00:09:13,029 That's the problem. 184 00:09:13,029 --> 00:09:13,049 That's the problem. 185 00:09:13,049 --> 00:09:13,070 That's the problem. 186 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:14,129 Especially the ones on the left. 187 00:09:14,809 --> 00:09:15,769 I'll go to the point where. 188 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:16,409 Dead dead. 189 00:09:16,669 --> 00:09:16,830 Right. 190 00:09:17,830 --> 00:09:18,129 You know. 191 00:09:18,370 --> 00:09:18,690 I mean. 192 00:09:18,830 --> 00:09:20,610 There is an issue with safe sites. 193 00:09:24,269 --> 00:09:24,929 It really is. 194 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:27,850 I'm trying to get a policy. 195 00:09:29,309 --> 00:09:30,809 Now you're sending a letter to say. 196 00:09:31,029 --> 00:09:31,230 You know. 197 00:09:31,769 --> 00:09:33,149 We feel it could be a hazard. 198 00:09:33,409 --> 00:09:33,649 Could. 199 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:34,149 Could be. 200 00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:35,210 Could be a hazard. 201 00:09:35,389 --> 00:09:35,590 I know. 202 00:09:36,129 --> 00:09:37,370 To see if they're going to pay attention. 203 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:39,509 We're up to our attention. 204 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:40,690 We're going to take the audit. 205 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:41,789 And then we can go from there. 206 00:09:42,450 --> 00:09:43,149 He's right. 207 00:09:43,789 --> 00:09:44,309 I mean. 208 00:09:44,590 --> 00:09:45,649 The bottom line is. 209 00:09:45,789 --> 00:09:46,049 You're sitting there. 210 00:09:46,049 --> 00:09:46,090 You're sitting there. 211 00:09:46,090 --> 00:09:46,110 I mean. 212 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:47,190 I hate to see this. 213 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:48,830 Because you're pretty much law enforcement. 214 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:49,730 But. 215 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:51,429 People go too fast. 216 00:09:51,690 --> 00:09:52,389 That's what it is. 217 00:09:52,490 --> 00:09:52,610 I mean. 218 00:09:52,669 --> 00:09:54,070 The speed limit is 30 miles an hour. 219 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:54,870 And I was up there. 220 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:56,210 I was up there pretty much. 221 00:09:56,690 --> 00:09:57,809 Every road in town. 222 00:09:58,669 --> 00:09:59,889 Drive around on my Jeep. 223 00:10:00,289 --> 00:10:02,250 They're going 50, 60 miles an hour. 224 00:10:02,289 --> 00:10:03,370 And it's roads that are passing. 225 00:10:04,409 --> 00:10:06,029 You just drive your Jeep out front. 226 00:10:06,210 --> 00:10:06,970 And you slow it down. 227 00:10:08,929 --> 00:10:10,389 I can tell you in the winter time. 228 00:10:10,870 --> 00:10:13,210 My plows are committed to the intersection. 229 00:10:13,409 --> 00:10:14,370 Before I can even see. 230 00:10:14,549 --> 00:10:14,769 Right. 231 00:10:14,769 --> 00:10:15,990 I have to be on the intersection. 232 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:16,990 Before I can see. 233 00:10:17,169 --> 00:10:17,309 Good. 234 00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:17,750 So. 235 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:19,190 What is my staff doing? 236 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:30,259 So we'll ask you. 237 00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:31,299 We're at the center of that. 238 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:33,980 It's a little bishop place. 239 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:34,659 And. 240 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:38,259 See if you can put out your kind of union net. 241 00:10:38,539 --> 00:10:41,740 If towns have policies on tree removal. 242 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,080 What does our tree warden do? 243 00:10:44,419 --> 00:10:46,330 What is their capacity? 244 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:47,850 What is their. 245 00:10:47,850 --> 00:10:48,309 He took down. 246 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:51,549 Oh. 247 00:10:51,629 --> 00:10:52,250 He didn't remove. 248 00:10:52,909 --> 00:10:53,870 I was just curious. 249 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,029 The position in general. 250 00:10:55,070 --> 00:10:55,309 What. 251 00:10:55,309 --> 00:10:55,549 What. 252 00:10:55,690 --> 00:10:56,009 What. 253 00:10:56,009 --> 00:10:56,029 What. 254 00:10:56,029 --> 00:10:56,129 What. 255 00:10:56,129 --> 00:10:56,149 What. 256 00:10:56,149 --> 00:10:56,169 What. 257 00:10:56,169 --> 00:10:56,269 What. 258 00:10:56,269 --> 00:10:56,289 What. 259 00:10:56,289 --> 00:10:56,309 What. 260 00:10:56,309 --> 00:10:56,330 What. 261 00:10:56,330 --> 00:10:56,470 What. 262 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:56,490 What. 263 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:56,529 What. 264 00:10:56,529 --> 00:10:56,590 What. 265 00:10:56,590 --> 00:10:56,629 What. 266 00:10:56,629 --> 00:10:56,649 What. 267 00:10:56,649 --> 00:10:56,669 What. 268 00:10:56,669 --> 00:10:56,690 What. 269 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:56,710 What. 270 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:56,730 What. 271 00:10:56,730 --> 00:10:56,750 What. 272 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:56,789 What. 273 00:10:56,789 --> 00:10:57,250 What. 274 00:10:57,250 --> 00:10:57,330 What. 275 00:10:57,330 --> 00:10:57,389 What. 276 00:10:57,389 --> 00:10:58,350 What. 277 00:10:58,350 --> 00:10:58,370 What. 278 00:10:58,370 --> 00:10:58,429 What. 279 00:10:58,429 --> 00:10:58,450 What. 280 00:10:58,450 --> 00:10:58,470 What. 281 00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:58,509 What. 282 00:10:58,509 --> 00:10:58,529 What. 283 00:10:58,529 --> 00:10:58,549 What. 284 00:10:58,549 --> 00:10:58,590 What. 285 00:10:58,590 --> 00:10:58,629 What. 286 00:10:58,629 --> 00:10:58,690 What. 287 00:10:58,690 --> 00:10:58,710 What. 288 00:10:58,710 --> 00:10:58,730 What. 289 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:58,769 What. 290 00:10:58,769 --> 00:10:58,830 What. 291 00:10:58,830 --> 00:10:58,870 What. 292 00:10:58,870 --> 00:10:58,929 What. 293 00:10:58,929 --> 00:10:58,950 What. 294 00:10:58,950 --> 00:10:58,990 What. 295 00:10:58,990 --> 00:10:59,029 What. 296 00:10:59,029 --> 00:10:59,090 What. 297 00:10:59,090 --> 00:10:59,110 What. 298 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:59,149 What. 299 00:10:59,149 --> 00:10:59,190 What. 300 00:10:59,190 --> 00:10:59,230 What. 301 00:10:59,230 --> 00:10:59,269 What. 302 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:59,289 What. 303 00:10:59,289 --> 00:10:59,350 What. 304 00:10:59,350 --> 00:10:59,389 What. 305 00:10:59,389 --> 00:10:59,450 What. 306 00:10:59,450 --> 00:10:59,470 What. 307 00:10:59,470 --> 00:10:59,509 What. 308 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:59,570 What. 309 00:10:59,570 --> 00:10:59,629 What. 310 00:10:59,629 --> 00:10:59,649 What. 311 00:10:59,649 --> 00:10:59,669 What. 312 00:10:59,669 --> 00:10:59,710 What. 313 00:10:59,710 --> 00:10:59,730 What. 314 00:10:59,730 --> 00:10:59,789 What. 315 00:10:59,789 --> 00:10:59,830 What. 316 00:10:59,830 --> 00:11:25,139 So when you go cut a tree, though, you've cut trees before, but you determine, you personally determine which tree is safe enough for you and what you want to take care of versus, I got to call someone. 317 00:11:25,139 --> 00:11:33,759 It'll either happen because we're, like, doing a road project or because it needed to wrap, like, it's broken off and it's going to fall off. 318 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:34,120 Right. 319 00:11:36,220 --> 00:11:37,259 Just go on the little box. 320 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:38,700 Go on the little box? 321 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:39,620 Go on the little box. 322 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:44,659 I think we have a right to have some new trees, just visit that one. 323 00:11:45,019 --> 00:11:45,259 Yeah. 324 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:48,759 Okay. 325 00:11:49,139 --> 00:11:51,480 Any other comments from visitors? 326 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,340 Right in the minutes of June 6th. 327 00:11:59,100 --> 00:11:59,460 Second. 328 00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:03,669 All in favor? 329 00:12:04,289 --> 00:12:04,570 Aye. 330 00:12:05,669 --> 00:12:10,470 Okay, minutes of May 29th, that was the joint meeting with the school board. 331 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:12,139 Motion. 332 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,399 Second. 333 00:12:15,899 --> 00:12:16,799 All in favor? 334 00:12:17,220 --> 00:12:17,460 Aye. 335 00:12:19,059 --> 00:12:23,320 And regarding the joint meeting, I hope you put that meeting back in there, but yeah. 336 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:30,120 It's going to take a while. 337 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:32,509 It's going to take a while, so, yeah. 338 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:34,639 Okay. 339 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,740 Road conditions, Dave, what's going on with that? 340 00:12:38,159 --> 00:13:05,200 The barrier, I know we're all going to need to take care of that, right? 341 00:13:05,299 --> 00:13:09,639 So, I mean, there's still more stuff. 342 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:18,980 We thought that was the last thing, but Dave and I, for the past couple of days, have talked 343 00:13:18,980 --> 00:13:19,539 to FEMA. 344 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:27,559 We ended up getting our state emergency rep involved because FEMA decided a year later 345 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,899 they wanted all the dimensional standards. 346 00:13:30,899 --> 00:13:31,299 Okay. 347 00:13:31,299 --> 00:13:33,159 Of every damage on the road. 348 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:35,340 How long was that? 349 00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:36,360 How wide was that? 350 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,600 How deep was that? 351 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:40,899 So that we've never had to do that before. 352 00:13:42,610 --> 00:13:48,370 FEMA representatives, well, a week or two after the flooding went out and did all of 353 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:51,850 this field work, they never filed their report. 354 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:55,809 So now they want us to redo all of it. 355 00:13:56,309 --> 00:14:01,769 The worry is, then they take what we try as our best guess. 356 00:14:01,850 --> 00:14:07,570 So we have to recreate and compare it with the bills and say, well, your dimensions only 357 00:14:07,570 --> 00:14:12,610 are 20 cubic yards, and you're claiming you used 40 cubic yards, so we ain't paying. 358 00:14:14,289 --> 00:14:20,429 So we did get the state involved, and they were wonderful, and they fought with FEMA. 359 00:14:21,309 --> 00:14:27,350 They told me today to write a letter saying, this has never been our responsibility in 360 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:27,950 the past. 361 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:31,889 You can't accurately recreate that deal a year later. 362 00:14:31,909 --> 00:14:35,909 And you just need to weigh that in with them. 363 00:14:35,909 --> 00:14:42,899 So that's something that we need to do, and hopefully that will work. 364 00:14:42,899 --> 00:14:51,190 But the hours, that's hours that we put in just this week alone over this nonsense is 365 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:52,190 okay. 366 00:14:52,190 --> 00:14:53,899 Lori, don't cry. 367 00:14:53,899 --> 00:14:55,899 It's like we won't cry now. 368 00:14:58,899 --> 00:14:59,899 Oh, yeah. 369 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:02,899 We're definitely pretty stern today about it. 370 00:15:03,899 --> 00:15:05,899 It's just we're not being reasonable. 371 00:15:05,899 --> 00:15:06,899 We can't. 372 00:15:06,899 --> 00:15:07,899 This doesn't mean we can sit. 373 00:15:07,899 --> 00:15:08,899 We can't. 374 00:15:08,899 --> 00:15:09,899 We can't do this. 375 00:15:09,899 --> 00:15:14,899 We can't keep going on and rehashing this. 376 00:15:14,899 --> 00:15:20,899 Every time FEMA has someone quit and somebody new starts, you've got to redo all of it. 377 00:15:20,899 --> 00:15:21,899 We already went through all this. 378 00:15:21,899 --> 00:15:22,899 They were okay. 379 00:15:22,899 --> 00:15:23,899 They approved all of it. 380 00:15:23,899 --> 00:15:24,899 The only thing they know is the charge. 381 00:15:24,899 --> 00:15:29,899 Well, now we're back to square one because they want measurements done on the things 382 00:15:29,899 --> 00:15:31,899 we can't give them measurements. 383 00:15:31,899 --> 00:15:32,899 And, you know, several of our roads. 384 00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:36,899 It wasn't just one spot that was damaged. 385 00:15:36,899 --> 00:15:40,899 It damaged, like, many different spots on the roads. 386 00:15:40,899 --> 00:15:47,899 And there's no way you can tell was it 18 feet or 18 inches, 24 inches, 6 inches. 387 00:15:47,899 --> 00:15:50,899 And it varied throughout the damage as the water ran. 388 00:15:50,899 --> 00:15:52,899 Was there any pictures that were taken prior to? 389 00:15:52,899 --> 00:15:53,899 Tons of them. 390 00:15:53,899 --> 00:15:55,899 And they got all of them. 391 00:15:55,899 --> 00:16:02,379 And there was about 10 FEMA people around this table all with their computers and... 392 00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:03,379 And then they went out on the road with you and... 393 00:16:03,379 --> 00:16:04,379 They took all the... 394 00:16:04,379 --> 00:16:05,379 They took the measurements that they needed then. 395 00:16:05,379 --> 00:16:06,379 They were all happy with it. 396 00:16:06,379 --> 00:16:07,379 The state came... 397 00:16:07,379 --> 00:16:08,379 It was around before that. 398 00:16:08,379 --> 00:16:09,379 They took measurements and estimates of everything. 399 00:16:09,379 --> 00:16:10,700 I mean, everything. 400 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:11,700 There is nothing being hidden here. 401 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:12,700 They can't get all the information. 402 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:13,700 They're just either trying to drag this out or trying to not face it on the money. 403 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:14,700 I don't know. 404 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:15,700 Here's my thought. 405 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:16,700 If... 406 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:17,700 Write the letter. 407 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:18,700 And... 408 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:19,700 And... 409 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:20,700 And... 410 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:21,700 And... 411 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:22,759 And... 412 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:23,759 And... 413 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:24,759 And... 414 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:25,759 And... 415 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:26,820 And... 416 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:27,820 And... 417 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:28,820 And... 418 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:29,820 And... 419 00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:30,820 And... 420 00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:31,820 And... 421 00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:32,919 And... 422 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:33,919 And... 423 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:34,919 And... 424 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:35,919 And... 425 00:16:35,919 --> 00:16:36,919 See if we get a response within two or three weeks. 426 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:37,919 Maybe. 427 00:16:37,919 --> 00:16:38,919 And then after that, write to our representatives. 428 00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:39,919 I would go Laura Sebelium. 429 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:40,919 I know she's not our... 430 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:41,919 She's... 431 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:57,080 Well, it's hard because they wanted information on the guardrails and they wanted the material 432 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,080 and the size. 433 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,080 They went out and measured. 434 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,080 The wooden ones are 3 x 5 and the metal ones are 2 x 4, whatever the numbers were. 435 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,080 We sent them every bit of it. 436 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,080 How long, how many, how much. 437 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:07,279 long how many and then they're right back and so that doesn't make sense they seem a little thin 438 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:12,720 can you go over and measure them oh my god like does our rope measure and i don't know how to read 439 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,640 it was kind of one of my comments you people wouldn't accept my measurements on the guard 440 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,599 right now you want me to go measure holes that don't exist anymore 441 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:32,000 right you're good yeah i don't know i think if they look at the work we've got done for the 442 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,440 money we spent they will want to hire us for every job that's done sounds like fun to dry it up first 443 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:45,940 all yeah yep okay what else do we have getting on roads we've been out roadside and all and 444 00:17:46,740 --> 00:18:00,269 pretty much non-stop so i'll grab jimmy collars 445 00:18:01,869 --> 00:18:06,109 tomorrow with jim henderson we'll look over some projects for the grant aid 446 00:18:07,069 --> 00:18:14,190 the one we pay and do every year right do you have a site that we uh jeffson road is a couple 447 00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:26,019 collars i think is um he's okay with it they're failed collars so it's due regardless so he's 448 00:18:26,019 --> 00:18:35,900 trying to pick something that our budget wouldn't allow me to do all of those anyway so 449 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:44,849 what else do you have dave i got a hydraulic study done for a culver 450 00:18:45,089 --> 00:18:52,079 that was kind of scary it's going to be an expensive one that's going to be another 451 00:18:54,140 --> 00:19:00,059 you know it could possibly end up being concrete it could possibly be an arch but it's going to 452 00:19:00,059 --> 00:19:05,740 be expensive so that's going to be a structure for any product at some point at least we have 453 00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:10,299 a hydraulic study right now so so what do you have money for culvers 454 00:19:12,859 --> 00:19:15,660 they do have mitigation programs 455 00:19:20,940 --> 00:19:27,339 we try to wait until our hedge and mitigation plan is kind of accepted 456 00:19:27,339 --> 00:19:34,609 in the first stage too uh where on east drill was uh the first major one if you take a look from the 457 00:19:34,609 --> 00:19:50,640 top of the fast ridges no it's right it's right um you know a tenth of a mile with that first one 458 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,240 on the right right first one on the right after you go left on the line 459 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,730 um 460 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:06,930 anything back about the susan drive but i did meet with the stream alterations 461 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:10,299 guy from the state of josh carlisle 462 00:20:13,619 --> 00:20:14,900 that's one of those cantalourens 463 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,480 it's gonna come down through the woods where it used to be at one time and they're gonna end up 464 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,559 having to put it over and have to put it in 465 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,319 probably a lot of so it's going to be you know expensive 466 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:41,119 probably we look through it and someday we'll have to but it's not like i said it's not as simple 467 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:46,640 as just putting a bigger pipe where that one exists he didn't feel like that would work anyway 468 00:20:48,539 --> 00:20:54,859 because of the 90 degree turn and the depth of the roof of the wall we didn't feel like we could 469 00:20:54,859 --> 00:20:59,500 get it in there properly and leave it back in the wood like i said it wouldn't solve the problem 470 00:21:02,460 --> 00:21:03,900 those days are long gone 471 00:21:10,529 --> 00:21:16,769 nothing on the energy study for the garage yet yeah oh i was gonna wait until you were done 472 00:21:17,809 --> 00:21:26,990 um i got a call just today a call an email from cali fishburne today saying there were 600 473 00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:32,910 municipal buildings that were approved for that grant and they have to have a contractor come and 474 00:21:32,910 --> 00:21:40,990 assess every single building so they have been out straight and way far behind but we are on their list 475 00:21:41,230 --> 00:21:47,069 they have a contract to come as soon as they can but there's no it doesn't tell us when 476 00:21:48,109 --> 00:21:54,269 they want me to pull together heating fuel electricity and any kind of utility information 477 00:21:54,269 --> 00:22:03,140 that we can to send them and we're going to start putting things together yeah it's kind of 478 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:06,819 unfortunate it's such a slow process because the garage really is needed 479 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,799 well they they did finally assign us a contractor 480 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:25,009 they are supposed to reach out to us to schedule a site visit where are they from it doesn't say 481 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:30,460 is this for the it's like an energy audit basically 482 00:22:33,460 --> 00:22:38,740 it's a municipal energy resilience program so they come into a site visit and determine 483 00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:44,420 what they can do to make you more energy efficient and then help you find money to do it 484 00:22:45,460 --> 00:22:56,720 there is relocation funds 485 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,400 maybe somewhere to acquire some of that 486 00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:04,940 i was just worried there uh testing too much money in that building just to have an 487 00:23:04,940 --> 00:23:10,700 on-the-wall stream that's a big threat there but we don't really have much 488 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:14,059 to stop right now there's two issues with 489 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:15,660 the garage that really should be addressed right now there's two issues with the garage that really should get addressed 490 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:20,220 before winter. Once the doors, the bottom panels 491 00:23:20,220 --> 00:23:24,220 and all the garage doors are 492 00:23:24,220 --> 00:23:28,220 I've done some hatching on them over the years. About a week 493 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:32,220 ago I had to have Dave from Rock Brook Doors come up and 494 00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:36,539 fix one of the cables and there's almost nothing to 495 00:23:36,539 --> 00:23:40,670 you know, mount the, you know, for a cable drill. 496 00:23:40,670 --> 00:23:44,670 Well, three out of the four 497 00:23:44,670 --> 00:23:50,500 he's supposedly 498 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:56,190 replacing the bottom panels. He's usually pretty 499 00:23:56,190 --> 00:24:13,500 you can see the standing salt sheds are starting to rust 500 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:17,500 pretty good on the front, but when Mike sent up with us doing the cricket 501 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:21,890 on the back for Kennedy last year, he said the rear is 502 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:25,890 actually worse, so. And it does drift in there 503 00:24:25,890 --> 00:24:29,890 you know, if you get a rainy day and you want to have the snow on it, it gets on 504 00:24:29,890 --> 00:24:33,069 with the dripping. 505 00:24:33,069 --> 00:24:37,069 A few years back I had Rick Arnold out there and sealed all the 506 00:24:37,069 --> 00:24:41,460 screws and what not, but it's just, I don't know if we want to try to 507 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:45,460 re-coat that or replace it, but it's definitely 508 00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:54,220 something that really needs to be looked at a little bit more. 509 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:58,220 Yeah, I haven't gotten up there. You can't see light because 510 00:24:58,220 --> 00:25:02,220 there's an inch and a half of insulation on the ceiling. 511 00:25:02,220 --> 00:25:07,339 So, I have no idea. Like I said, you can 512 00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:09,339 see some water staying on the insulation. 513 00:25:09,339 --> 00:25:13,339 So, it's definitely, but it's a metal roof and some of that 514 00:25:13,339 --> 00:25:17,500 can just be gone and saved in a million years, but. 515 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:19,500 It's definitely. 516 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:23,890 JT consults and schedules us. 517 00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:27,890 Tells them our roof is bad and we might want to replace it, but we really 518 00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:29,890 don't want to do that without them. 519 00:25:29,890 --> 00:25:39,900 Put it across, that's where we can put it for some grant. 520 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:51,619 Anything else on our roof? 521 00:25:51,619 --> 00:25:57,119 So, we've got the county road reclassification. 522 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,119 Laurie's given us some stuff in our packet here. 523 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,440 The Stanford Select Board will hold a public site inspection meeting 524 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:13,569 to view the approximate .3 mile of county road beginning at the intersection of 525 00:26:13,569 --> 00:26:17,569 Vassa, trail number 301, Suffolk Pond Trail and county road. 526 00:26:17,569 --> 00:26:21,569 Continuing along county road westerly to the bottom of Vermont Town Line. 527 00:26:21,569 --> 00:26:29,950 The site inspection will be held on Thursday, August 1st at 445, which will 528 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:31,950 begin at the Stanford Elementary School. 529 00:26:31,950 --> 00:26:42,180 So, and then after that site visit, we'll do a public hearing the same day, 530 00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:46,180 Thursday, August 1st, 530 at the town office. 531 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:51,009 A couple of things in there. 532 00:26:51,009 --> 00:27:00,130 Do you think if we're meeting here at the school at 445, we can get up and do the 533 00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:04,799 site inspection and then back down here for 530? 534 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,799 Yeah. 535 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:10,799 Are you just going to look at it or are people going to want to walk? 536 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,799 Yes. 537 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,799 Are we walking it? 538 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,799 Are we driving it? 539 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:23,250 I'm suggesting that if it really has an issue, they should probably take a look at it for 540 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:27,250 now. 541 00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:31,250 Now, do we know at this point three is the exact mile? 542 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:33,859 It says approximately, don't it? 543 00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:37,859 Well, when you discontinue, you need a little bit more. 544 00:27:37,859 --> 00:27:41,859 Approximately. 545 00:27:41,859 --> 00:27:49,920 The state girl we dealt with a couple of years ago, she was, well, does it go to the front door of the house? 546 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,920 Whatever we say, that's what it is. 547 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,920 Okay. 548 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,920 I'm not sure it's going to be right. 549 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,920 I mean, who else would, the state girl that walked there, measure? 550 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920 She does it all on computer. 551 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,920 Well, there you go. 552 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,920 If we're wrong, she can let us know. 553 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,920 It says approximately 23 miles to the town hall. 554 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,920 We can't measure a whole, so how do we measure it? 555 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,920 Well, does it begin at trail number 301? 556 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Do we know that? 557 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,359 It does. 558 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,359 Yes. 559 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,359 That's the end of this convention. 560 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,359 Okay. 561 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,359 301 goes out to Sucker. 562 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,650 Right. 563 00:28:27,650 --> 00:28:30,319 Here. 564 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,319 Now, so you say 445, do you want to meet here, or do you want to meet on top of County Road? 565 00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:46,539 I think, I mean, I think it's perfect the way it says it, and anybody that doesn't know where it is, shame on them. 566 00:28:46,539 --> 00:28:48,539 You know? 567 00:28:48,539 --> 00:28:50,769 It's very reality. 568 00:28:50,769 --> 00:28:52,769 This is not a big deal. 569 00:28:52,769 --> 00:28:54,769 Right. 570 00:28:54,769 --> 00:28:58,799 If you got, like Dave said, if you got real concern about this 23 miles rock, 571 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:02,930 by all means, go up there and walk it, and make a big deal out of it. 572 00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:04,930 Well, the state's going to make a big deal out of it. 573 00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:06,930 They want to know. 574 00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:08,930 I know. 575 00:29:08,930 --> 00:29:10,930 What can they do? 576 00:29:10,930 --> 00:29:12,930 What can they say? 577 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:14,930 We measured it with our tape measure. 578 00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:16,930 You go over that with your car and my car, we're going to get a different reading. 579 00:29:16,930 --> 00:29:18,930 You're going to go, ba-boom, ba-boom. 580 00:29:18,930 --> 00:29:20,930 Oh, the up and down? 581 00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:22,930 And I'm just going to go this way. 582 00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:24,930 The state's not driving through here. 583 00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:26,930 It's a trail. 584 00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:28,930 It's already a trail. 585 00:29:28,930 --> 00:29:30,930 It's a cheap trail. 586 00:29:30,930 --> 00:29:32,930 If we can clearly identify it, it's okay. 587 00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:36,930 But if they don't clearly, clearly identify it, they can make a survey here. 588 00:29:36,930 --> 00:29:38,930 That's why it matters. 589 00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:40,930 I'll drive off with my vehicle. 590 00:29:40,930 --> 00:29:44,930 I'll type up my own down there, or at least from here to there, how's that? 591 00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:48,210 Okay. 592 00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:50,210 I'll stand by my reading. 593 00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:52,210 They can make a statement. 594 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:54,210 I'll get the benefit at that minute. 595 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:56,559 Right. 596 00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:58,559 If they want us to be connected to the state, they can do that. 597 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,559 So once again, 598 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,559 to answer Laurie's question, 599 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:06,559 are we going to meet here at quarter to five, or up there? 600 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,559 Well, if someone doesn't know how to get there, 601 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:13,789 they probably want to meet here, so we probably won't. 602 00:30:13,789 --> 00:30:15,789 I'd be very surprised if nobody knows where it is. 603 00:30:15,789 --> 00:30:17,789 Is this where the high line actually crosses, 604 00:30:17,789 --> 00:30:19,789 or you're down farther, we'll risk you entering, for example? 605 00:30:19,789 --> 00:30:21,789 The right path, or the detention line. 606 00:30:21,789 --> 00:30:23,789 Right. 607 00:30:23,789 --> 00:30:25,789 Right at the detention line, 608 00:30:25,789 --> 00:30:28,079 that's where they want to connect to Sucker Pond Road. 609 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,079 So that's the 301. 610 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,079 And 302 is the other one. 611 00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,079 And they want to go down, 612 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,079 Sucker Pond, 613 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,079 they want to make it a connecting path. 614 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,079 Yeah, you're not driving there with any, like, 615 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,079 normal vehicle. 616 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,079 They need to take a pickup, 617 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,079 but if you've got mud boards, they're coming off. 618 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,589 Yeah, I wouldn't want to go that way. 619 00:30:48,589 --> 00:30:50,589 But no, it's a jeep trail. 620 00:30:50,589 --> 00:30:52,589 And it's a slow jeep trail. 621 00:30:52,589 --> 00:30:54,589 Yeah, you're not going fast, 622 00:30:54,589 --> 00:30:56,589 you're crawling. 623 00:30:56,589 --> 00:30:58,589 You'd probably walk faster. 624 00:30:58,589 --> 00:31:00,589 There's no use studying, yeah, 625 00:31:00,589 --> 00:31:02,589 unless you're on a four-wheel. 626 00:31:02,589 --> 00:31:04,589 There's no water, there's no culverts, 627 00:31:04,589 --> 00:31:06,589 it's just rock. 628 00:31:06,589 --> 00:31:08,589 It's really not maintainable as a road. 629 00:31:08,589 --> 00:31:10,589 No, you couldn't, I mean, 630 00:31:10,589 --> 00:31:12,589 what do you do, take the radar over it? 631 00:31:12,589 --> 00:31:14,589 No, that would need serious work 632 00:31:14,589 --> 00:31:16,750 to bring it back to the equal standards. 633 00:31:16,750 --> 00:31:18,750 Okay, so beginning at the intersection 634 00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:20,750 of the 635 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:23,140 current 636 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:25,140 Bassett Trail number 301. 637 00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:27,140 Does the Bassett Trail 301 exist 638 00:31:27,140 --> 00:31:29,140 right there? 639 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:31,140 There's a sign on the wall. 640 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,140 There's a National Forest sign 641 00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:35,140 that says PR 301. 642 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:37,140 So I don't know if it's a National Bassett 643 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,140 Trail 301 or National Forest. 644 00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:41,140 I think it's National Forest. 645 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:43,140 I don't think they 646 00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:45,140 designated it as Bassett at this point. 647 00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:47,140 That's what these people came up 648 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,140 with. 649 00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:53,140 Because National Forest didn't come up 650 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:55,140 at all for what I wish. 651 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:57,299 It's just that ending. 652 00:31:57,299 --> 00:31:59,519 When they were pushing 653 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,519 the four-wheelers and ATVs 654 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,519 a couple of years ago, 655 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,519 you know, National Forest came right in 656 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,519 and stuck a pond trail down 657 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,839 the old one for years. 658 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:11,839 I don't agree with them. 659 00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:14,349 They said there's a lot of 660 00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:16,349 erosion, but it always 661 00:32:16,349 --> 00:32:18,349 I don't think it was there like yesterday. 662 00:32:18,349 --> 00:32:20,349 It was there four years ago. 663 00:32:20,349 --> 00:32:22,349 Whether you drive a Jeep and pick up 664 00:32:22,349 --> 00:32:24,349 up there or dirt bikes or four-wheelers, 665 00:32:24,349 --> 00:32:26,349 it's always been like that. 666 00:32:26,349 --> 00:32:28,640 It's never been a nice trail. 667 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,640 At least more of their public awareness. 668 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,640 Regardless of the NASA 669 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640 issue with that section 670 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640 of road, I think it's an investment. 671 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640 It's not just for the town. 672 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,640 I have a little trail. 673 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,859 I would want to do this regardless. 674 00:32:43,859 --> 00:32:45,859 Should we say something in this notice 675 00:32:45,859 --> 00:32:47,859 that the point of going up there 676 00:32:47,859 --> 00:32:49,859 is to reconsider the classification 677 00:32:49,859 --> 00:32:51,859 of it? 678 00:32:51,859 --> 00:32:53,859 Because we don't really get any reason 679 00:32:53,859 --> 00:32:55,859 why we're doing this. 680 00:32:55,859 --> 00:32:58,109 Yeah, we can do that. 681 00:32:58,109 --> 00:33:00,109 As part of the reclassification, 682 00:33:00,109 --> 00:33:02,109 we've got the checklist. 683 00:33:02,109 --> 00:33:04,109 I don't see anybody complaining about it. 684 00:33:04,109 --> 00:33:06,109 No one lives there. 685 00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:08,109 You're not going there. 686 00:33:08,109 --> 00:33:10,109 It's natural force on both sides? 687 00:33:10,109 --> 00:33:12,109 I think so. 688 00:33:12,109 --> 00:33:14,109 We're not giving it up. 689 00:33:14,109 --> 00:33:16,109 It's still going to be a public, 690 00:33:16,109 --> 00:33:18,109 regular one. 691 00:33:18,109 --> 00:33:20,180 There's natural force on both sides 692 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:22,180 so there's nothing going to be developed. 693 00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:24,180 Really, it just defines the level 694 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:26,180 of maintenance as far as the town is concerned 695 00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:28,240 along there. 696 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240 And we're responsible for it. 697 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,240 It makes it so we're not responsible 698 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,359 for any liability. 699 00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:37,359 Which is a good thing considering 700 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,359 the shape of the road. 701 00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:41,359 What we're tethered to. 702 00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,359 It's always been that. 703 00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,359 In my lifetime. 704 00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:47,359 I've never seen it. 705 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,359 When we first moved up here, 706 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,359 we could take a Honda CR-V 707 00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,359 and drive right through 708 00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:55,359 to Bennington without a problem. 709 00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:57,359 And I'm talking 710 00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,359 24 years. 711 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,359 Well, you're a lot older. 712 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:03,359 Yeah, I know. 713 00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:05,359 I know I don't look it. 714 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,359 Back over here. 715 00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:09,360 We've been up about 25 years. 716 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,360 The Selectmen did have a camp 717 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,360 at the end of Risky Ranch. 718 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360 And we said, 719 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,360 oh, let's go through. 720 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,360 We went all the way through, 721 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,360 up the road, 722 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,360 but we were thinking, 723 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,360 how are we going to open these doors 724 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,360 if we can't get out? 725 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,360 We're going to have to crawl through windows. 726 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,710 And the banks were above the door. 727 00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:33,710 The last post stop. 728 00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:35,710 Oh, we just thought it would be fun to go through. 729 00:34:35,710 --> 00:34:37,710 For a while, 730 00:34:37,710 --> 00:34:39,710 the GPS would send people home. 731 00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:41,710 From the Albany side, 732 00:34:41,710 --> 00:34:43,710 from Miami, 733 00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:45,710 they'd send them over 734 00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:47,710 over the connector 735 00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:49,710 to the town hall. 736 00:34:49,710 --> 00:34:51,710 And there was one guy 737 00:34:51,710 --> 00:34:53,710 in a cab that got stuck. 738 00:34:53,710 --> 00:34:55,710 And I called his dispatcher 739 00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:57,710 to see if he didn't have... 740 00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:59,710 Because I had to go 741 00:34:59,710 --> 00:35:01,710 and bring my Subaru as far as it would go. 742 00:35:01,710 --> 00:35:03,710 And then we had to hike 30 minutes, 743 00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:05,710 collect the people, 744 00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:07,710 come back to the house. 745 00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:09,710 And I had to call the cab company 746 00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:11,710 and tell them, 747 00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:13,710 I'm like, you're not out of here. 748 00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:15,710 There's no cell service. 749 00:35:15,710 --> 00:35:17,710 So you've got to go get them 750 00:35:17,710 --> 00:35:19,710 or you're going to have to get lucky tomorrow morning. 751 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:21,710 It's amazing how GPS 752 00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:23,710 maps out an area that was best for a wagon. 753 00:35:23,710 --> 00:35:25,710 Two years ago, 754 00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:27,710 a steel truck, 755 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:29,710 was delivering it. 756 00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:31,710 They left there 757 00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:33,710 and that's where they were sent. 758 00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:35,710 They got past Ritchford Ranch 759 00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:37,710 and out to Broad Brook 760 00:35:37,710 --> 00:35:39,710 and that's as far as they got. 761 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:41,710 They called one of the... 762 00:35:41,710 --> 00:35:43,710 My buddies called me 763 00:35:43,710 --> 00:35:45,710 and said, hey, 764 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:47,710 that's why you're not getting a delivery today. 765 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:49,710 I said, well, 766 00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:51,710 it sounds like we could call a tow truck. 767 00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:53,710 Yeah. 768 00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:55,809 I put a laundry mat out there. 769 00:35:55,809 --> 00:35:57,809 I think I'm lost. 770 00:35:57,809 --> 00:35:59,809 This is the way to the laundry mat. 771 00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:01,809 Yep, you're lost. 772 00:36:01,809 --> 00:36:03,809 Yeah, they used to call here 773 00:36:03,809 --> 00:36:05,809 and say, no, no, no, 774 00:36:05,809 --> 00:36:07,809 don't have to do that. 775 00:36:07,809 --> 00:36:09,809 Your GPS is wrong. 776 00:36:09,809 --> 00:36:11,809 So are we all set on this? 777 00:36:11,809 --> 00:36:13,809 Well, I need to provide 30 days notice, 778 00:36:13,809 --> 00:36:15,809 which is fine. 779 00:36:15,809 --> 00:36:17,809 I can get letters and information out by July 1st. 780 00:36:17,809 --> 00:36:19,809 We must give notice to the planning commission. 781 00:36:19,809 --> 00:36:21,809 We must post it in the town office. 782 00:36:21,809 --> 00:36:23,809 We must publish it in the Berkshire Eagle. 783 00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:25,809 We must send a certified mail notice 784 00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:27,869 to all the owners and landowners 785 00:36:27,869 --> 00:36:29,869 which I believe is just National Forest. 786 00:36:29,869 --> 00:36:31,869 We must notify the commissioner 787 00:36:31,869 --> 00:36:33,869 of Forest Parks and Recreation 788 00:36:33,869 --> 00:36:35,869 and we must send a certified mail notice 789 00:36:35,869 --> 00:36:37,869 to all the owners and landowners 790 00:36:37,869 --> 00:36:39,869 which I believe is just National Forest. 791 00:36:39,869 --> 00:36:42,099 We should send a certified mail notice 792 00:36:42,099 --> 00:36:44,099 to our local local development 793 00:36:44,099 --> 00:36:46,099 for recreational recreation 794 00:36:46,099 --> 00:36:48,099 for the state of Vermont. 795 00:36:48,099 --> 00:36:50,099 When we did our ancient road stuff 796 00:36:50,099 --> 00:36:52,480 we chose 797 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,480 to give notice to 798 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,480 zoning administrator 799 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,480 to our assessor 800 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,480 and to all of the local 801 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,480 riding interest groups. 802 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,480 We sent one to Woodford Snow Busters 803 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,480 and Bennington Trail Cruisers. 804 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,949 I don't know if you wanted to do all that. 805 00:37:09,949 --> 00:37:12,079 I don't think you need to. 806 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:25,079 Assessor? No. Serves any purpose? No. Zoning administrator? No, just the ones that we have. 807 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:52,710 Anything else on roads, Dave, you good? Recycling. Emergency management. 808 00:37:52,710 --> 00:38:11,500 We had, first Bob gave us, or Bob or Bill gave us, the funding application. There's like three parts. Funding application, self-certification, and payment requests. There's three parts to this one. 809 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,780 Let's draw it up. Oh, what'd I say? 810 00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:17,780 Oh, sorry. 811 00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:20,780 Well, it's fine. 812 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:22,780 Oh, yeah, that's right. 813 00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:25,780 Okay, let's go back to emergency management. 814 00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:27,780 Sorry, do you have anything? 815 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:28,780 I have nothing for emergency management. 816 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:29,780 Okay. 817 00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:30,780 We're going to try it out. 818 00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:32,780 Well, we have to deem it binary. 819 00:38:32,780 --> 00:38:42,780 So, I know last time you said you were going to get a policy, and I emailed you the other day, and you quickly responded. 820 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:49,480 There's probably more than we want to do for a policy. Some of them are in debt. 821 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,480 And I haven't sent them on to the rest of the board. 822 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,480 But, as far as this funding application. 823 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,480 Okay. 824 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:04,599 It says, I'm requesting funding for the following project. Installation of conduit at home address. 825 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:18,840 I would like to just change it to connection, because some people probably couldn't afford, well, the DV fibers coming to their house, not with conduit. 826 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:26,840 But then, once they get the house, they've got to run that wire way over to the other part of the cellar or wherever, and that's a charge, from what I've heard. 827 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840 More than 25 feet. 828 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,840 Okay. 829 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,840 So, should we just put something in there just for the installation of connection? 830 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Assistance with connection costs, or something like that. 831 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,840 Yeah. And then it would cover both the... 832 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,840 It would cover anybody. 833 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,000 Yeah. 834 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000 That needs it. 835 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,000 That needs it. 836 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Over there. 837 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Connection cost. 838 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Yeah. 839 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:55,000 And if it's more than 400 feet, and we put it on private poles or something like that, there's an additional cost for the fire worship. 840 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000 So, I think the way you narrowed it down and made it more broad is... 841 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Yeah. Okay. 842 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:09,099 And so, how are we going to allocate this money? First come, first serve? 843 00:40:09,099 --> 00:40:21,000 Well, I thought we had a number of, not names, but a number of people. 844 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,190 And if that number of people, I believe you said it was either seven or ten. 845 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:29,190 That's people that are waiting on underground conduits. 846 00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:32,190 Okay. Not necessarily qualified for it. 847 00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:34,190 Or even want it. 848 00:40:34,190 --> 00:40:36,190 Qualification, we don't know that. 849 00:40:36,190 --> 00:40:37,190 Yeah. 850 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:38,380 Okay. 851 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:43,610 There's probably 400 houses, 911 addresses in the town. 852 00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:52,989 And I believe DB Fiber is about 45% of those places that have got connections. 853 00:40:52,989 --> 00:40:58,150 But what we know is that these are just coming out of the back of this pole bag. 854 00:40:58,150 --> 00:41:02,380 So, it could be an underground conduit that they need. 855 00:41:02,380 --> 00:41:03,380 Yeah. 856 00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:04,380 That they need assistance with. 857 00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:09,380 It could be, like Nancy said, it could be an extension of the wire. 858 00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:14,380 It could be just paying the first month's bill or something like that. 859 00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:23,019 You know, if we have an underserved person that can't really afford it, you know, maybe 860 00:41:23,019 --> 00:41:25,019 get them started a little bit. 861 00:41:25,019 --> 00:41:27,139 I don't know. 862 00:41:27,139 --> 00:41:29,139 It's up to you guys how you want to do it. 863 00:41:29,139 --> 00:41:32,139 But $7,500 really isn't going to go to the fire. 864 00:41:32,139 --> 00:41:33,139 No. 865 00:41:33,139 --> 00:41:34,139 Right. 866 00:41:34,139 --> 00:41:41,139 I think if we, say we send a number, $500 per person, no matter what they need it for, 867 00:41:41,139 --> 00:41:42,139 if they qualify. 868 00:41:42,139 --> 00:41:45,139 I don't know how you can get to the top of it. 869 00:41:45,139 --> 00:41:46,139 They have to sell it. 870 00:41:46,139 --> 00:41:47,139 Checklist. 871 00:41:47,139 --> 00:41:48,139 Sell the checklist. 872 00:41:48,139 --> 00:41:49,139 Go through that, go through that, sell the checklist. 873 00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:52,139 But if they don't need $500, then they only need $100. 874 00:41:52,139 --> 00:41:54,139 Well, you just go up to it. 875 00:41:54,139 --> 00:41:56,139 And then you throw it back in the hat. 876 00:41:56,139 --> 00:41:59,300 And then when it's gone, you decide what you want to do. 877 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:02,519 If you're going to add money or just say that's it. 878 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:03,519 I don't think it should be forever. 879 00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:05,840 But I don't know what number that would be. 880 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,840 I mean, that's a big deal. 881 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,840 We're just trying to get ahead of this. 882 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,840 We've got most of the talent connected already without any of this. 883 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,840 Right. 884 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,840 I wouldn't think that $500 is a lot of money to put a conduit in or anything like that. 885 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,840 That seems like it would be more than that. 886 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840 It's a hell. 887 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,840 Right. 888 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,840 But I mean, if you make it too small of a model, you're going to have that money 889 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,840 in there forever. 890 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,840 Right. 891 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,840 Yeah. 892 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,840 That's all. 893 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,840 I like what you said off the top of my head. 894 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,840 Yeah. 895 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,840 Yeah. 896 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,840 Yeah. 897 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,380 Yeah. 898 00:42:24,380 --> 00:42:25,380 Yeah. 899 00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:26,380 Yeah. 900 00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:27,380 Yeah. 901 00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:28,380 Yeah. 902 00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:29,380 Yeah. 903 00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:30,380 Yeah. 904 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:31,380 Yeah. 905 00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:32,380 Yeah. 906 00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:33,380 Yeah. 907 00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:34,380 Yeah. 908 00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:35,380 Yeah. 909 00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:36,380 Do you think it's even worth it to get it on there forever? 910 00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:37,380 Just five 100. 911 00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:38,380 Try it? 912 00:42:38,380 --> 00:42:39,380 Yeah, it's $500 or more. 913 00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:40,380 See how long it goes. 914 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:41,380 If we go a year or two if it's not like used, nobody's holding up anymore. 915 00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:42,380 And we'll have to decide what else to do. 916 00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:43,380 Okay. 917 00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:44,380 And how are we determining it. 918 00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:46,059 You said the self checklist. 919 00:42:46,059 --> 00:42:47,059 There's a self checklist. 920 00:42:47,059 --> 00:42:48,059 But say we have a hundred people signing up for it. 921 00:42:48,059 --> 00:42:49,539 How do we. 922 00:42:49,539 --> 00:42:50,780 We're out of money. 923 00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:51,719 We're out of money. 924 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,719 Yeah. 925 00:42:52,719 --> 00:43:01,039 So it's the first the names in the maintaining that you can Guthrie But maybe you should 926 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,340 you know, if we have 100. 927 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,230 Yeah. 928 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:06,230 Yeah. 929 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:17,110 you have a some sort of a deadline for for folks to submit the request yeah the way i understand 930 00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:23,750 this works is the homeowner will pay the bill or or the db5 will pay the bill for the homeowner 931 00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:30,420 with the seven five hundred dollars that those pay whatever amount it is that you choose five 932 00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:37,289 hundred dollars or whatever for the community the db5 has already got the money right right 933 00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:47,130 so but it's going to be they'll pay the contractor or whoever maybe homes are there 400 934 00:43:49,139 --> 00:43:56,340 say 400 yeah but i think we've got we've got 400 more things yeah and he said about 158 935 00:43:56,340 --> 00:44:02,019 customers have signed up four more customers need a conduit but i don't 936 00:44:02,179 --> 00:44:09,460 know four more customers and you don't know how many so yeah so i think i think you guys 937 00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:15,539 are on my track for saying up to 500 and the homeowner would need to submit requests 938 00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:24,739 was it just the 7500 did they receive a matching amount they used that they used 939 00:44:24,739 --> 00:44:30,579 the matching amount for the build so they they took the matching amount from 940 00:44:32,179 --> 00:44:43,909 not brought in people but this community got higher to the home at no cost well pretty much 941 00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:50,230 yeah right yeah that's that's a huge yeah yeah and we're not we're not strangled by 942 00:44:50,949 --> 00:44:58,630 uh a cable company that's gonna squeeze every penny on us yeah and this thing here was a good 943 00:44:58,630 --> 00:45:03,349 thing well we're trying to do a good thing it runs out of the side of the club yeah 944 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:09,110 good i think the sense that we're probably going on the more money than we're gonna do 945 00:45:09,989 --> 00:45:13,989 i was just trying to believe i believe we could i mean if it was a hot commodity i think we 946 00:45:13,989 --> 00:45:20,789 could use our funds for that as well yeah well we would want to but i think we could we could 947 00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:30,809 um okay so yeah so there's just if if you got 50 you said 45 percent of the homes 948 00:45:30,809 --> 00:45:37,369 50 would be around 200 homes left if everybody took 500 bucks that's only 10 000. and not every 949 00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:45,369 so i think if we went 500 we're right in the ballgame you know half of that you know if only 950 00:45:45,369 --> 00:45:50,380 100 homes which i yell 100 homes are going to qualify right self-qualified some of the self 951 00:45:50,380 --> 00:46:02,059 qualifying i'm saying you work 500 bucks yeah i'm not qualifying 250 or 200 or 500. yeah 500. 952 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,199 is it 953 00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:34,840 yeah sorry i think you're on the right track i think at least it's something to start with 954 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,679 yeah and if the money doesn't go and somebody comes up that needs a lot of money then maybe 955 00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:44,199 you guys can reassess and make a determination 956 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,119 on that could it also go for say like 957 00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:51,000 training for people that don't know how to use the internet older people 958 00:46:55,739 --> 00:46:59,019 it should be for connections but if there's there's people that need to 959 00:46:59,019 --> 00:47:01,260 say there's leftover at the end we're all connected 960 00:47:08,469 --> 00:47:12,230 youtube videos can do an awful lot yeah that's true 961 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,159 you know how to get out there and if you're looking at the right one 962 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:25,159 you can't get it on the internet how do you get on youtube i know youtube puts at least 20 extra pounds 963 00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:29,880 i don't know who's going to be the best are we putting it in the hat what are we doing 964 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:38,780 good question john yes if someone fills us all out where does it go back to laurie where's where's 965 00:47:38,780 --> 00:47:44,380 this so after it's filled out submit it to me it's here so we decided and then who decides 966 00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:45,579 we're here on something else 967 00:47:45,579 --> 00:47:49,500 you decide or do you put it in the hat and pick take out the people 968 00:47:49,659 --> 00:47:53,500 did you tell db piper that you're going to give this model one to this president 969 00:47:54,619 --> 00:47:58,780 for this stuff yeah but how do we determine if the president is going to qualify 970 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,400 make sure that that's what it's right i think we should look at it because somebody could falsify 971 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:12,920 it you know there's going to be different people not i don't believe in this town but maybe there 972 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,360 could be someone that says i need it and they clearly don't know that or they don't live in the town 973 00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:20,039 we have to care about 974 00:48:20,199 --> 00:48:26,440 just make sure everything's probably fine i understand that i may be deemed ineligible 975 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,099 right for any funds so we can't just put it in the hat we got to look at it we can do 976 00:48:31,099 --> 00:48:45,940 it in a consensual session if you want okay start working on this and proceed is that okay 977 00:48:47,619 --> 00:48:56,440 delinquent dog update luke called today and he said that all 978 00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:01,719 dog letters will be going out tomorrow i don't know how many you send me out probably 979 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,440 you have last time 30. 980 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:27,690 seed sabers response i'll have a copy of the 981 00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:36,170 letter response uh the beds are being used by somebody but we don't know this is from 982 00:49:36,170 --> 00:49:43,300 howell field she doesn't know who so i'm not going to clear out the beds and maybe between 983 00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:49,940 the town and the school you can figure out if the teachers are using the beds or town people are 984 00:49:49,940 --> 00:49:50,579 using the beds 985 00:49:51,619 --> 00:49:58,760 been in seat savers for several years they were dissolved several years ago as far as the beds 986 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,199 that aren't being used i would highly recommend sending out an email that says anybody that wants 987 00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:10,280 good compost can come down and build a truck good compost otherwise when you're tearing up 988 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:18,010 the tennis court and tearing down the shed you can just work it into the dirt there are several 989 00:50:18,010 --> 00:50:24,090 blueberry bushes there that also belong to the town all of this belongs to the town so you have 990 00:50:24,090 --> 00:50:28,889 the right to do whatever you want with it and i hope people will either start using the beds again 991 00:50:28,889 --> 00:50:34,889 or relaxing compost because i notice that there are now many people in new garden heads raised 992 00:50:34,889 --> 00:50:40,650 beds in the yard especially a long time ago so maybe sending out a notice to everybody so when 993 00:50:40,650 --> 00:50:46,019 you come down and throw the truck the compost will be healthy feel free to call me if you want 994 00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:49,849 my 995 00:50:49,929 --> 00:51:01,849 um 996 00:51:19,690 --> 00:51:19,769 you 997 00:51:19,929 --> 00:51:23,369 know it'd be kind of good knowing who's down there when they're down there and knowing the 998 00:51:23,369 --> 00:51:29,929 rules and when the school's opening up and that that's my concern the other thing would be is 999 00:51:29,929 --> 00:51:33,769 if they're all the schools at first they're saying we'll come get the tools and then 1000 00:51:33,769 --> 00:51:37,690 throw off all the good stuff and then leave your other stuff behind so that's happening 1001 00:51:38,730 --> 00:51:45,929 but nevertheless it's over you know what you gotta do if you want the dirt 1002 00:51:46,489 --> 00:51:51,690 the dirt someone might want that yeah i don't know last week was the 1003 00:51:51,849 --> 00:51:58,199 last day of the program and i started talking with some of the teachers who also 1004 00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:01,420 came in and then as they're in tourяс county hearing and them concerned for our 1005 00:52:01,420 --> 00:52:05,099 community they次 thebeaters there's really been a lot of talk you 1006 00:52:05,099 --> 00:52:07,780 know there's a lot of folks coming in through our program we will make sure 1007 00:52:07,780 --> 00:52:10,539 and i want you to think about that as well the words of the teacher 1008 00:52:10,539 --> 00:52:12,219 eater normal chinese 1009 00:52:12,219 --> 00:52:15,019 the teachers have got right i don't think 1010 00:52:15,019 --> 00:52:19,480 it would be a horrible idea we could rip the fence down cover over the majority of the black top or leave that for 1011 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,239 care instead of putting money in the little care now but right now it's in pretty good shape 1012 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,920 yeah so why not when you bring those back up to the school and the kids are probably using that 1013 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,280 so probably outside the fence so aren't they no they're inside 1014 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,000 i don't really tell you does it look away and over the shed 1015 00:52:48,610 --> 00:52:49,889 and there's a water tank down there 1016 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:58,119 i would suggest leaving the blueberry bushes right where they are somebody might 1017 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,360 and if they got tons of blueberries 1018 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:11,559 so 1019 00:53:13,460 --> 00:53:15,909 are we doing this 1020 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:41,059 the ultimate game plan is like carry the fence down at some point 1021 00:53:43,139 --> 00:53:44,340 up this is my idea 1022 00:53:45,059 --> 00:53:48,179 i'll just get a roll off brought down there up and down the escalator and 1023 00:53:49,619 --> 00:53:53,380 take all that fence down real fast and put it in the roll off and then 1024 00:53:54,019 --> 00:53:56,739 truck into some loads of top soil and cover it over 1025 00:53:56,739 --> 00:53:58,659 see it and then it'll be good 1026 00:54:00,179 --> 00:54:05,699 cover yeah leave a little part where the pavilion is for now on the black tops 1027 00:54:05,699 --> 00:54:07,059 because that's in decent shape 1028 00:54:07,059 --> 00:54:08,900 can you bust it up a little more 1029 00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:09,539 until it's over 1030 00:54:09,539 --> 00:54:10,579 just cover it 1031 00:54:10,579 --> 00:54:12,739 the black top i'll just cover it 1032 00:54:12,739 --> 00:54:15,800 if you're in the black tops or have a few of them 1033 00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:20,119 i think we take it up 1034 00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,119 and you got to get rid of it 1035 00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:24,119 and then 1036 00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,119 i was thinking where you should like leave it 1037 00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:28,179 just crush it and cover it 1038 00:54:32,179 --> 00:54:34,179 so should we put something in the minutes 1039 00:54:34,179 --> 00:54:38,179 if anybody wants compost or anything from 1040 00:54:38,179 --> 00:54:42,179 just say compost because we don't want to say take anything because they might take the shed 1041 00:54:42,179 --> 00:54:44,179 leave the compost there we'll use it out 1042 00:54:44,179 --> 00:54:45,619 leave the compost there we'll use it out 1043 00:54:45,619 --> 00:54:49,619 my question is do you want people driving 1044 00:54:49,619 --> 00:54:51,619 yeah 1045 00:54:51,619 --> 00:54:53,619 yeah 1046 00:54:53,619 --> 00:54:55,619 yeah 1047 00:54:55,619 --> 00:54:57,619 yeah 1048 00:54:57,619 --> 00:54:59,619 yeah 1049 00:54:59,619 --> 00:55:01,619 yeah 1050 00:55:01,619 --> 00:55:03,619 yeah 1051 00:55:03,619 --> 00:55:05,650 yeah 1052 00:55:05,650 --> 00:55:07,650 yeah 1053 00:55:07,650 --> 00:55:09,650 yeah 1054 00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:11,650 yeah 1055 00:55:11,650 --> 00:55:13,650 yeah 1056 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:19,650 yeah 1057 00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:21,650 yeah 1058 00:55:21,650 --> 00:55:23,650 yeah 1059 00:55:23,650 --> 00:55:25,650 yeah 1060 00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:27,650 yeah 1061 00:55:27,650 --> 00:55:29,650 yeah 1062 00:55:29,650 --> 00:55:31,650 yeah 1063 00:55:31,650 --> 00:55:33,969 yeah 1064 00:55:33,969 --> 00:55:35,730 yeah 1065 00:55:35,730 --> 00:55:38,769 yeah 1066 00:55:38,769 --> 00:55:40,769 yeah 1067 00:55:40,769 --> 00:55:42,769 yeah 1068 00:55:42,769 --> 00:55:44,769 it's going to be a good thing to bring in here 1069 00:55:44,769 --> 00:55:46,599 Do you want me to do that? 1070 00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:48,349 Sounds good. 1071 00:55:48,349 --> 00:55:58,480 I'll let you down. 1072 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,679 Keep that bank down a few more times. 1073 00:56:03,699 --> 00:56:05,940 Tax anticipation loan, what do we got? 1074 00:56:05,940 --> 00:56:08,539 So I did reach out to Adams Community Bank 1075 00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:12,679 and they said they can touch Berkshire Bank's rate. 1076 00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:14,780 They couldn't even come close to it. 1077 00:56:14,780 --> 00:56:18,559 Their rates were even higher than what they quoted us 1078 00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:21,360 just in the time from when they did it 1079 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,320 and when I was asking. 1080 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,619 So I went to Berkshire Bank, Nancy came in 1081 00:56:27,619 --> 00:56:30,860 and signed a life away and. 1082 00:56:30,860 --> 00:56:31,699 How much? 1083 00:56:31,699 --> 00:56:36,199 And I'm going to put in the town account today. 1084 00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:37,909 All right. 1085 00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:49,599 So we're good. 1086 00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:50,420 So we're good. 1087 00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:51,260 Yeah. 1088 00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:01,329 Correspondence, Laurie. 1089 00:57:01,329 --> 00:57:05,380 I don't have any correspondence. 1090 00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:06,480 Old business. 1091 00:57:09,489 --> 00:57:11,750 Old business, I guess I had a resident approach me 1092 00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:14,989 at the dump asking if we could get state police 1093 00:57:14,989 --> 00:57:17,530 to patrol on the highway once. 1094 00:57:17,530 --> 00:57:18,369 Okay. 1095 00:57:18,369 --> 00:57:19,489 So typical stuff. 1096 00:57:19,489 --> 00:57:22,579 Oh, and they have four wheelers working. 1097 00:57:22,579 --> 00:57:25,860 No, he was just talking to state highway officers. 1098 00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:27,699 So I guess I wasn't going to bring anything up 1099 00:57:27,699 --> 00:57:28,800 but now that you do. 1100 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,860 Yeah. 1101 00:57:29,860 --> 00:57:30,699 Well. 1102 00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:35,500 I do understand that some residents see you at the dump, 1103 00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:38,599 see you at the Domas, call you on the phone. 1104 00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:40,179 That happens to me too. 1105 00:57:40,179 --> 00:57:43,840 But I wish that we could get into minutes that, 1106 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,239 if the residents have concerns, 1107 00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:47,820 to either write a letter if they're afraid 1108 00:57:47,820 --> 00:57:49,579 to talk in public, because some people are. 1109 00:57:49,579 --> 00:57:50,659 I understand that. 1110 00:57:50,659 --> 00:57:51,519 But come to meetings. 1111 00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:52,559 Yeah. 1112 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,360 And we give five plus minutes. 1113 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,599 And when I say plus, that's a big plus, right? 1114 00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,760 Everybody who, we've never ever said people can't talk. 1115 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,059 Matter of fact, we've had people that said they couldn't talk 1116 00:58:05,059 --> 00:58:06,539 and we put them on the agenda just 1117 00:58:06,539 --> 00:58:09,099 so they had a platform in the past. 1118 00:58:09,099 --> 00:58:13,440 So I think this meeting, although it's not run Robert's 1119 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,900 rules, it is run that the freedom 1120 00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:20,840 of speech is very, very open. 1121 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,039 So I would like people to do that and know 1122 00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:27,940 that this is a select board of five people. 1123 00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:29,239 Right. 1124 00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:30,900 So each one of us can never make a decision. 1125 00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:31,980 We can't. 1126 00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:34,920 I know that people have their favorites and they want to call 1127 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,179 on their friends and all that, but I'd like the minutes 1128 00:58:37,179 --> 00:58:40,719 to know that we, you know, we're doing our best. 1129 00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:44,400 We seem to be running the town pretty good, I think. 1130 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,460 But if you have residents like that, you know, 1131 00:58:47,460 --> 00:58:48,760 I'd like to see them here. 1132 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,559 I'd like to see, we get the same people all the time. 1133 00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:52,800 Not that I don't like seeing people here. 1134 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,739 But we do get the same people all the time. 1135 00:58:55,739 --> 00:58:57,880 And if, you know, if someone's got a concern, 1136 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,139 unless it's a dire need where, you know. 1137 00:59:00,139 --> 00:59:01,440 Oh, it's a little late. 1138 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,440 Yeah, yeah. 1139 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,820 And just like you said before about law enforcement, 1140 00:59:05,820 --> 00:59:06,880 you can call State Troopers. 1141 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,719 I'll call them tomorrow, okay. 1142 00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:11,719 And they're going to tell me they're down seven men, okay. 1143 00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:13,320 That's what they tell me all the time. 1144 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,960 We have three officers for a million miles and blah, blah, blah. 1145 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,320 They're not going to spend their time here unless it's urgent. 1146 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,260 They might once a year show up. 1147 00:59:24,260 --> 00:59:28,300 And the minute they do, they're going to walk on your road 1148 00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:31,159 and you're going to say, how come I didn't see him on my road? 1149 00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:31,539 All right. 1150 00:59:31,539 --> 00:59:35,219 That's what the sheriff has to start from then through the sheriff. 1151 00:59:35,219 --> 00:59:39,780 But I just want to make sure that people understand that, you know, 1152 00:59:39,780 --> 00:59:47,059 if this meeting, and the other thing I want to say is this setup we have here is difficult. 1153 00:59:47,059 --> 00:59:49,300 You can't see people sitting over there. 1154 00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:49,820 Right. 1155 00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:53,719 Right. So when they're raising their hand 1156 00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:57,300 and they're raising their hand, they don't know, so they keep talking. 1157 00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:01,539 And this person over here is a second hand up and they can't see him. 1158 01:00:01,539 --> 01:00:02,780 So they keep talking. 1159 01:00:02,780 --> 01:00:03,599 And it's hard. 1160 01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:09,199 And I understand that the chair has a tough time sometimes, especially when it's busy. 1161 01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:14,539 So, you know, as far as I'm concerned, this is almost a volunteer job. 1162 01:00:14,539 --> 01:00:18,199 And the other thing I want to say, and I'm not trying to scold anybody, 1163 01:00:18,199 --> 01:00:22,139 but I said this years ago, the slight board meeting is a meeting 1164 01:00:22,139 --> 01:00:24,679 for the slight board in the public. 1165 01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:27,719 You guys don't, we're not pulling fast ones on anybody. 1166 01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:29,019 It's not for the public. 1167 01:00:29,019 --> 01:00:30,420 It's not your meeting. 1168 01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:31,380 It's ours meeting. 1169 01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:34,719 It doesn't matter if you went to the school board meeting or the planning board meeting. 1170 01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:37,260 They give so much time for the public to talk. 1171 01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:42,989 This meeting allows a lot more talk than the school board or the planning board. 1172 01:00:42,989 --> 01:00:44,590 Not that they don't run their meetings good. 1173 01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:50,349 I'm just saying it's definitely more, you're more able, there's more time here 1174 01:00:50,349 --> 01:00:53,250 to voice your opinions at any time. 1175 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:54,849 So I just want to let you know. 1176 01:00:54,849 --> 01:00:58,050 Well, I'd like to make a comment on the state police. 1177 01:00:58,050 --> 01:01:01,829 Not only the four wheelers, but the speeders that are going, 1178 01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:05,829 from past our houses, your house too. 1179 01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:09,510 I mean, you can hear them going, coming down the mountain, 1180 01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:11,610 all the way down to the, oh, I've got to take it. 1181 01:01:11,610 --> 01:01:13,110 You know, the state troopers live right at the top of the mountain. 1182 01:01:13,110 --> 01:01:14,110 No. 1183 01:01:14,110 --> 01:01:16,369 I don't know if that deep down, in all honesty, 1184 01:01:16,369 --> 01:01:17,750 that's a terrible problem. 1185 01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:20,150 Well, could we call the state police and just say, 1186 01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:22,590 can you have some presence down here? 1187 01:01:22,590 --> 01:01:25,389 I'll send an email tomorrow. 1188 01:01:25,389 --> 01:01:26,650 I'll send an email tomorrow. 1189 01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:27,949 I've got a contact. 1190 01:01:27,949 --> 01:01:30,750 And I'm sure, you know, if somebody sees the state police, 1191 01:01:30,750 --> 01:01:31,829 they're going to call their friends. 1192 01:01:31,829 --> 01:01:33,570 They're going to say, slow down, the state police are in town. 1193 01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:36,130 But at least there's no consistency there. 1194 01:01:36,130 --> 01:01:40,070 It's more for the people that are not a resident. 1195 01:01:40,070 --> 01:01:42,909 Those other guys, well, I mean, some of them do speed through town. 1196 01:01:42,909 --> 01:01:45,369 But any time I'm getting passed on a double line, 1197 01:01:45,369 --> 01:01:47,750 it's a mass plate, you know. 1198 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:48,949 Yeah. 1199 01:01:48,949 --> 01:01:53,650 I mean, like I said, I've been passed on these roads, you know. 1200 01:01:53,650 --> 01:01:55,090 I've been passed in the village. 1201 01:01:55,090 --> 01:01:56,449 We're coming out of the village now. 1202 01:01:56,449 --> 01:01:59,630 If Doug is driving slowly now, I'm not going to go past Doug. 1203 01:01:59,630 --> 01:02:00,829 I'm going to wait on him. 1204 01:02:01,829 --> 01:02:03,590 If he does the same thing, I'm going to wait on him. 1205 01:02:03,590 --> 01:02:05,340 All right? 1206 01:02:05,340 --> 01:02:06,380 All right. 1207 01:02:06,380 --> 01:02:07,239 Excuse me. 1208 01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:08,539 It's not a state police do an exam about this. 1209 01:02:08,539 --> 01:02:09,880 Oh, it's a public college. 1210 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,199 School buildings, the public college. 1211 01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,579 No problem . 1212 01:02:13,579 --> 01:02:16,300 It's all limited resources. 1213 01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:17,500 It's a lifestyle. 1214 01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:18,059 It is. 1215 01:02:18,059 --> 01:02:19,260 Yep. 1216 01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:20,260 Yeah. 1217 01:02:20,260 --> 01:02:22,059 I'm working on getting a hat and shirts or a lifestyle 1218 01:02:22,059 --> 01:02:24,739 or a comp stand or something. 1219 01:02:24,739 --> 01:02:26,179 Yeah, that's all merge. 1220 01:02:26,179 --> 01:02:27,579 If you can email, I'd appreciate it. 1221 01:02:27,579 --> 01:02:32,239 I hate to be, you know, giving credit with quotes, 1222 01:02:32,239 --> 01:02:33,099 but years ago, they didn't. 1223 01:02:33,099 --> 01:02:33,440 Right. 1224 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:33,539 Right. 1225 01:02:33,539 --> 01:02:33,780 Right. 1226 01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:33,920 Yeah. 1227 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:33,940 Right. 1228 01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:33,980 Right. 1229 01:02:33,980 --> 01:02:40,699 said you all we all got to live here every one of us you know smile once a while wave to your 1230 01:02:40,699 --> 01:02:45,980 neighbors help your neighbor out there we got to do that work you got to stop being like the rest 1231 01:02:45,980 --> 01:02:51,099 of the nation where we're yeah at each other's services we don't agree on everything but you 1232 01:02:51,099 --> 01:02:59,579 still wait and i've said this for many many many many many years and we don't well we see our 1233 01:02:59,579 --> 01:03:04,860 neighbor and all that stuff but we're not there in their face but if they need help we're there 1234 01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:10,869 right and what did we notice today something i noticed today something wasn't right somebody 1235 01:03:10,869 --> 01:03:18,730 was walking oh hmm what's that with walking something's not right and it wasn't but you know 1236 01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:29,960 your routine and i said yep okay uh what else under oldest john was something that sign 1237 01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:38,949 uh last meeting i brought up a sign i wanted to try to accommodate the town for a sign up that 1238 01:03:38,949 --> 01:03:46,070 met the current zoning bylaws and i know everybody some people feel that the town 1239 01:03:46,869 --> 01:03:55,190 shouldn't follow the zoning bylaws they are exempt or try to be exempt but i feel like it's 1240 01:03:55,190 --> 01:04:01,579 a small town you should lead by example and if we move forward with a sign i feel like we should 1241 01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:11,159 put a sign up that um goes by the current zoning bylaws so whatever we need to do i mean 1242 01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:15,960 obviously we need a sign you drive by there's no sign to use the bushes right now are overwhelming 1243 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:25,829 the teepee sign that are out there so what happened yes lori i while i was on vacation last 1244 01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:33,670 week fema decided to send a representative from burlington down to view the guardrails that need 1245 01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:39,909 to be replaced unbeknownst to any of us and he drove back and forth and back and forth and all 1246 01:04:39,909 --> 01:04:45,670 around and his gps said he was here but he didn't see anything and he finally did pull into the 1247 01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:54,230 school and one of the teachers went out and he was talking about fema and they rooted into ted 1248 01:04:54,230 --> 01:04:59,750 burchard's house on colony road thinking it was being a buyout i mean it was just a mess from 1249 01:05:00,309 --> 01:05:03,510 every angle he ended up going all the way back 1250 01:05:03,670 --> 01:05:09,590 burlington for nothing but he didn't he didn't schedule an appointment either 1251 01:05:09,590 --> 01:05:15,110 but without a sign it it was a problem wasn't too much college 1252 01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:25,480 wasn't there a plan to you were going to show up at the next planning board yeah i have one yes yes 1253 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,380 the first yeah yeah what's the next planning board so i can but john there's this talking 1254 01:05:31,179 --> 01:05:34,460 different which i am i'll respect them either way i don't know 1255 01:05:34,539 --> 01:05:43,420 but again i'm at a point where i'm i'm exhausted yeah but at the same time we're in charge of the 1256 01:05:43,420 --> 01:05:51,980 town and we're closing you know no i i agree 100 i agree so either we go to the planning board and 1257 01:05:51,980 --> 01:05:58,699 ask them to put a sign up yeah that accommodates or ask them to change the rules so we put a bigger 1258 01:05:58,699 --> 01:06:04,460 sign up but if that's the case then it should be accommodated so everybody can put up the same stuff 1259 01:06:04,539 --> 01:06:10,300 as signs we ask is how i feel about it right if we did let's just go two ways if we go 1260 01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:17,940 to the bylaws now the sign is down we need to go through deb and we need to get a 1261 01:06:19,530 --> 01:06:26,949 a model of the sign that we want say okay this is what will this be approved then once 1262 01:06:26,949 --> 01:06:33,690 they say yes then we can go and have a design and build all right so they're going to modify an 1263 01:06:33,690 --> 01:06:34,730 existing sign 1264 01:06:35,530 --> 01:06:40,090 which that's important if we're going to go into the landscape the whole landscape will have to be 1265 01:06:40,090 --> 01:06:45,769 moving as well what it's too close to the road yeah that was a nice question what is the the 1266 01:06:46,409 --> 01:06:52,570 distance that we're supposed to be off so our old sign was always too close to the road they took 1267 01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:58,329 the the old sign down and put the new sign up farther away was my understanding a couple feet 1268 01:06:59,269 --> 01:07:04,860 then it either was farther away or at the exact same place 1269 01:07:05,820 --> 01:07:12,699 and i was this is all hearsay that we can't go any farther because there's a well there but 1270 01:07:12,699 --> 01:07:16,780 that well is a pretty pretty woman why can't we yeah 1271 01:07:20,539 --> 01:07:26,409 and the old sign didn't even have to cement so i mean i don't see whatever it is that we do i just 1272 01:07:26,409 --> 01:07:31,530 feel like it should be so there's no issues down there like once we do it we don't want to have 1273 01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:34,329 house conversation again i have no idea how far 1274 01:07:34,889 --> 01:07:39,929 someone's going to fall or 10 foot i guess so let's just if it was 24 you put it that far back 1275 01:07:51,849 --> 01:07:55,050 we want to do the three by four or whatever keep the same size of it 1276 01:07:56,170 --> 01:08:00,650 like you brought up last week we could have the sign two signs and keep them on a half inch apart 1277 01:08:00,650 --> 01:08:04,730 right but we do have we have a model yeah and then we have another big sign 1278 01:08:04,889 --> 01:08:10,920 or whatever yeah in order to fall within the bylaw bylaws that we have we take and we say okay 1279 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,600 this is what we're doing we're doing three by four if if you have to have two signs i mean what 1280 01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:23,239 three by four signs up that's up you know i just keep my point across enough like whatever we do 1281 01:08:23,239 --> 01:08:30,039 it's got to be done right so it's not yep the other thing is and here's where i do disagree 1282 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,960 is that i do believe when i read that law from the state that 1283 01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:41,079 municipalities for the good of the municipality are exempt now i'm i don't want to debate it 1284 01:08:41,079 --> 01:08:45,720 you're probably correct well we've already we've already talked about it that's what i want to go 1285 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:52,520 through the board and say this is in the state law this is what i'm feeling if they say no it's 1286 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:58,520 no and then we but i have no problem going either way i agree that when we get to 1287 01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:03,880 we go this way or this way we get the same place where there is a sign that makes sense doesn't it 1288 01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:11,880 matter now the other thing is too with the flowers everybody's got flowers in the town and stayed 1289 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:17,000 right away well that's not part of it i don't think they need they're just not thinking they're 1290 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,800 going to grow up to the height where you're not going to see a sign that's behind them 1291 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:33,000 right yeah i mean that's yeah 1292 01:09:35,720 --> 01:10:01,439 I will go to that meeting still. I mean, I feel that it probably would be useless and I probably won't get it to her, but if we have, if we have those, if we go to AO and say, look, here's our sign, this is what it's going to say. 1293 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:15,380 We're going to put three of them on, two of them on, five of them on. How many can we put up? Can we just keep putting a row of signs up? I mean, seriously, is that a loophole in the bylaws? 1294 01:10:15,380 --> 01:10:17,380 We don't want to set that up. 1295 01:10:17,380 --> 01:10:20,300 You know, I mean, actually, one of the planning board members said that. 1296 01:10:20,380 --> 01:10:22,520 We just need to have more information on the bylaws. 1297 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:28,460 We're over-setting that if we're, you know, we're following the bylaws, and then everyone's going to say, oh, I have a poor sign, though. 1298 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,420 Following the loophole. 1299 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:30,399 Right, yeah. 1300 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:31,420 Oh. 1301 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,430 Well, let's just get, let's just go to that one, you know. 1302 01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:36,609 Who's going to mock up the sign? 1303 01:10:37,010 --> 01:10:37,770 Oh, yeah. 1304 01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:39,569 I don't know what you want to do. 1305 01:10:39,569 --> 01:10:40,449 Yeah, you want to mock it up? 1306 01:10:41,449 --> 01:10:42,270 What do we want? 1307 01:10:42,670 --> 01:10:46,750 It's got to be a three-by-four piece of plywood, and what are we going to put on it? 1308 01:10:46,850 --> 01:10:50,909 Could we just use the old town of Stanford for this pattern? 1309 01:10:51,710 --> 01:10:53,130 For giggles? 1310 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,130 Town of Stanford. 1311 01:10:55,630 --> 01:10:58,390 Could we use the old sign? We still have that. 1312 01:10:58,390 --> 01:11:01,149 Could we just cut it down a little bit and modify it? 1313 01:11:01,489 --> 01:11:02,170 I don't think we should. 1314 01:11:02,409 --> 01:11:02,829 Wait, Bob. 1315 01:11:02,970 --> 01:11:06,229 Sheila, do you have the sign? 1316 01:11:06,609 --> 01:11:12,090 Do you agree you could read that old sign coming up and down the road because it was perpendicular? 1317 01:11:12,789 --> 01:11:18,550 If you take off the Vermont, it fits in with the 12 square feet. 1318 01:11:19,210 --> 01:11:19,609 Don't know. 1319 01:11:19,689 --> 01:11:21,390 I haven't seen that sign in over two years. 1320 01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:21,930 I have. 1321 01:11:21,989 --> 01:11:22,689 I saw it today. 1322 01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:24,210 Well, that doesn't mean anything to me. 1323 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:25,689 Well, I measured it. 1324 01:11:25,689 --> 01:11:26,789 That doesn't mean anything to me. 1325 01:11:26,789 --> 01:11:31,729 I mean, I think that the sign, the old sign. 1326 01:11:31,729 --> 01:11:35,770 I mean, if you want to bring it back to the town and we can measure it, that'd be fine with me. 1327 01:11:35,770 --> 01:11:42,189 I think that the camaraderie of the town that I was talking about five years ago, both the old signs need to go away. 1328 01:11:42,189 --> 01:11:42,689 Right. 1329 01:11:42,689 --> 01:11:43,329 That's what I mean. 1330 01:11:43,329 --> 01:11:45,529 I mean, if you want to bring the old sign back in and. 1331 01:11:45,529 --> 01:11:46,630 They need to go home. 1332 01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:50,250 And, yeah, I mean, at this point, it's too late. 1333 01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:56,010 Well, it should be, the sign is information, so we want to say, what is this place? 1334 01:11:56,010 --> 01:11:56,949 Is it a school? 1335 01:11:56,949 --> 01:11:58,630 Is it a town office? 1336 01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:59,130 What is it? 1337 01:11:59,130 --> 01:12:00,010 It's all of it. 1338 01:12:00,010 --> 01:12:00,729 State of the town office. 1339 01:12:00,729 --> 01:12:01,050 So. 1340 01:12:01,050 --> 01:12:08,149 School, town office, whatever it might be. 1341 01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:09,609 I don't know, whatever, school. 1342 01:12:09,609 --> 01:12:11,409 986 Main Road. 1343 01:12:11,409 --> 01:12:11,909 That's not there. 1344 01:12:11,909 --> 01:12:12,510 Is that the number? 1345 01:12:12,510 --> 01:12:13,149 It's not that far. 1346 01:12:13,149 --> 01:12:13,449 Yeah. 1347 01:12:13,449 --> 01:12:14,750 I see. 1348 01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:20,270 And it has to be, I agree with Sheila, that it has to be this way and not this way. 1349 01:12:20,270 --> 01:12:20,789 Yeah. 1350 01:12:20,789 --> 01:12:22,510 I mean, you've got to read it both ways. 1351 01:12:22,510 --> 01:12:24,750 It's got to be a two-sided sign. 1352 01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:30,270 Yeah, because I don't, and if you've got to put it farther back, it's going to be even worse than where it was. 1353 01:12:30,270 --> 01:12:31,050 Bob had a question. 1354 01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:43,739 Could I suggest that, at the very least, the town put a road sign up that says town offices, just one of the entrances to the, to the thing, a simple. 1355 01:12:43,739 --> 01:12:46,039 Kind of like the library sign that's out there. 1356 01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:52,340 Yeah, the whole, with the green sign on it, says town offices, like Mill Road or something like that. 1357 01:12:52,340 --> 01:12:52,840 I don't know. 1358 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:53,340 I don't know. 1359 01:12:53,340 --> 01:13:00,340 The library sign out there, and you've got to have like three signs, as long as they all fit within the. 1360 01:13:00,340 --> 01:13:01,159 Sign. 1361 01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:02,659 Size requirement. 1362 01:13:02,659 --> 01:13:03,159 Right. 1363 01:13:03,159 --> 01:13:05,659 Put them on one, well, you'd have to have them on both sides. 1364 01:13:05,659 --> 01:13:06,159 Right. 1365 01:13:06,159 --> 01:13:15,159 But it would be a smaller thing that people can, you know, I mean, if people look at that library sign, and they don't know what it is, well, that's their problem. 1366 01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:19,159 The thing is, it has to be a certain size, and it has to be that high intensity. 1367 01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:23,489 Anything in the right way that's a street sign like that has to follow it. 1368 01:13:23,489 --> 01:13:23,989 Right. 1369 01:13:23,989 --> 01:13:24,989 That kind of PCB. 1370 01:13:24,989 --> 01:13:26,989 Well, I think, let's make it simple for now. 1371 01:13:26,989 --> 01:13:30,989 Let's look at, see if we can come up with some kind of piece of cardboard. 1372 01:13:30,989 --> 01:13:31,989 And we can. 1373 01:13:31,989 --> 01:13:32,989 Sketch it off. 1374 01:13:32,989 --> 01:13:34,989 Sketch it off and say, what do you think? 1375 01:13:34,989 --> 01:13:40,989 And then we can say, get some ideas and say, well, I like this, but we can add this, take this off, whatever. 1376 01:13:40,989 --> 01:13:46,989 But like you said, if it says Town of Stanford, big letters, it'll slow the FEMA guy down. 1377 01:13:46,989 --> 01:13:49,989 And then you can see it and say, okay, well, this is. 1378 01:13:49,989 --> 01:13:53,989 Maybe we can make the main sign just as says Town of Stanford, slightly smaller, so then we can. 1379 01:13:53,989 --> 01:13:54,989 Yeah. 1380 01:13:54,989 --> 01:13:55,989 We can name it. 1381 01:13:55,989 --> 01:13:57,989 I was on vacation the other day. 1382 01:13:57,989 --> 01:13:58,989 I saw one with a straight pole. 1383 01:13:58,989 --> 01:13:59,989 It had over 100 signs on it. 1384 01:13:59,989 --> 01:14:00,989 So that was kind of cool. 1385 01:14:00,989 --> 01:14:01,989 It looked like more of a pole. 1386 01:14:01,989 --> 01:14:02,989 That's what I said. 1387 01:14:02,989 --> 01:14:03,989 We are excited. 1388 01:14:03,989 --> 01:14:04,989 I don't really know how you miss the building, but that's just. 1389 01:14:04,989 --> 01:14:05,989 Yeah. 1390 01:14:05,989 --> 01:14:06,989 Everything today is electronic. 1391 01:14:06,989 --> 01:14:07,989 So if you're like type in Stanford school or Stanford town office, give you the number. 1392 01:14:07,989 --> 01:14:08,989 Go with a big green square. 1393 01:14:08,989 --> 01:14:09,989 Go. 1394 01:14:09,989 --> 01:14:11,020 It'll take you right where you got to. 1395 01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:12,020 Right. 1396 01:14:12,020 --> 01:14:13,020 You know? 1397 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:14,020 Yeah. 1398 01:14:14,020 --> 01:14:15,020 Or, I mean. 1399 01:14:15,020 --> 01:14:16,020 Yeah. 1400 01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:17,020 Let's just. 1401 01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:18,020 All a bunch of. 1402 01:14:18,020 --> 01:14:19,020 You don't have to be perfect. 1403 01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:20,020 Because then we're going to. 1404 01:14:20,020 --> 01:14:21,020 Yeah. 1405 01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:22,020 Yeah. 1406 01:14:22,020 --> 01:14:23,020 Yeah. 1407 01:14:23,020 --> 01:14:24,020 Yeah. 1408 01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:25,020 Yeah. 1409 01:14:25,020 --> 01:14:26,020 Yeah. 1410 01:14:26,020 --> 01:14:27,020 Yeah. 1411 01:14:27,020 --> 01:14:28,020 Yeah. 1412 01:14:28,020 --> 01:14:29,020 Yeah. 1413 01:14:29,020 --> 01:14:30,020 Yeah. 1414 01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:31,020 Yeah. 1415 01:14:31,020 --> 01:14:32,020 Yeah. 1416 01:14:32,020 --> 01:14:34,239 Yeah. 1417 01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:35,239 Yeah. 1418 01:14:35,239 --> 01:14:36,239 Yeah. 1419 01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:37,239 Yeah. 1420 01:14:37,239 --> 01:14:38,239 Mhmm. 1421 01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:43,239 And, also, I've been researching other towns. 1422 01:14:43,239 --> 01:14:50,239 We may have to just put a sentence in our bylaws. 1423 01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:51,239 Yeah. 1424 01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:52,239 Just to be that simple. 1425 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:53,239 I think. 1426 01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:54,239 We waste so much time. 1427 01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:55,239 Maybe. 1428 01:14:55,239 --> 01:14:57,239 So maybe the laws are put in place because of things like this. 1429 01:14:57,239 --> 01:14:58,239 Right. 1430 01:14:58,239 --> 01:14:59,239 I don't know. 1431 01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:00,239 Well. 1432 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:01,239 Maybe not. 1433 01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:10,359 like i tried to use an example before if you have a school that you can't put the sign anywhere else 1434 01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:16,039 it has to be too close if you have a school and it's for the good of the bus drivers 1435 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:22,680 if that's what that law is for but if you have a you know a safety thing if you want it bigger 1436 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:27,800 that's what that sign is for you want a big sign it says you know so the sign i'm sure over the 1437 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:33,000 years i'll put where it was because it was the most visually aesthetic ecstatically you know 1438 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,199 pleasing places whatever i wanted to see it it wasn't like anything you see 1439 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:44,119 it goes into towns in vermont you see town of dover on the side of their building fire department 1440 01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:52,119 it's one letter just face one letter wouldn't fit you know so they're exempt their bylaws don't say 1441 01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:57,079 everybody can do that right but it can't hurt to just put in the bylaws of the municipality 1442 01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:57,720 just can't hurt 1443 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:06,840 and it was one thing to cover yeah again i i really i have no personal thing involved in this 1444 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:12,920 where i care which way it goes at the end of the day i agreed it and i think we all agreed we need 1445 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:18,840 to sign it so put this sign up or let's look at the sign because it's going to take a while for 1446 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:25,510 that statement to get in the zoning bylaws and get approved so right in the meantime let's have 1447 01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:27,350 something there i'm just going to buy something 1448 01:16:28,710 --> 01:16:31,109 i can draw right i got anybody 1449 01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:45,590 and then you throw two coats on the side of it does that change the you know what i mean 1450 01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:50,470 that's a good question for the planning board i don't think so i think the sign is an actual sign 1451 01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:54,069 and what holds it up it's not part right so yeah just don't want to get it 1452 01:16:54,069 --> 01:16:56,149 it's a zoning right that's the zoning 1453 01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:56,789 that's the eo 1454 01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:57,670 right hat's the zoning so for the zin area the zin area is board that information is going to help 1455 01:16:57,670 --> 01:16:57,810 tr Porklyn's District 3 where we'll see you all right that's a new committee meeting call and maybe you will get that in the parking lot if they use that this is not we'll be, so you're going to also, i think if... 1456 01:16:57,810 --> 01:16:57,909 than we can schedule a car camping park while in the parking lot it's gonna call at five or 10. of the parking lot i'd want to be a part, 1457 01:16:57,989 --> 01:17:02,909 You know, see, when I, we had a store in North Adams, 1458 01:17:02,909 --> 01:17:07,670 and the mayor came in and he changed the mayor's name. 1459 01:17:07,670 --> 01:17:10,880 He said, I want all the signs to hang. 1460 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,579 And we had to put a pole in from the building 1461 01:17:14,579 --> 01:17:18,520 out over the sidewalk, and then hang the sign off of it. 1462 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,659 And that pole wasn't part of our sign. 1463 01:17:20,659 --> 01:17:23,850 It was just a measurement of the sign. 1464 01:17:23,850 --> 01:17:26,789 Five years after that, he changed his mind, 1465 01:17:26,789 --> 01:17:29,789 he wanted everybody to put the signs on the building. 1466 01:17:29,789 --> 01:17:32,310 So that had to come down, we had to move by then 1467 01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:35,569 to another facility, but everybody had to take them off 1468 01:17:35,569 --> 01:17:37,229 and put them a different way. 1469 01:17:37,229 --> 01:17:40,319 And you wouldn't think it's that hard, 1470 01:17:40,319 --> 01:17:42,579 but the insurance company sure does, 1471 01:17:42,579 --> 01:17:44,319 because you can't hang them over the sidewalk 1472 01:17:44,319 --> 01:17:45,979 without a special insurance. 1473 01:17:47,659 --> 01:17:48,899 I was just saying, he was going after 1474 01:17:48,899 --> 01:17:50,619 the old school nostalgic look. 1475 01:17:50,619 --> 01:17:53,420 He was, yeah, he was, yeah. 1476 01:17:53,420 --> 01:17:56,039 I mean, I'd put a four by four half inch wall 1477 01:17:56,039 --> 01:17:56,880 of poop in. 1478 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,699 It was 12 foot long, out of this attic of the building, 1479 01:18:00,699 --> 01:18:03,600 and hung it out four foot, five foot. 1480 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,279 So the rest of it was in there with jacks, 1481 01:18:06,279 --> 01:18:07,800 front of the jacks. 1482 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:12,119 You could have jacked a truck mower out of it. 1483 01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:13,439 We tore the building down now, 1484 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:18,800 so a modern studio should have had some money. 1485 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,319 Okay, so you'll try to have something for next meeting? 1486 01:18:22,319 --> 01:18:26,039 Yeah, just a square piece of wood, I guess. 1487 01:18:26,039 --> 01:18:27,300 Four by eight? 1488 01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:28,779 Three by four. 1489 01:18:28,779 --> 01:18:29,619 Not four by eight. 1490 01:18:29,619 --> 01:18:30,260 Three by four. 1491 01:18:30,279 --> 01:18:31,119 Four by four. 1492 01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:33,100 Do you want me to letter it, or do you want me to single it? 1493 01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:36,060 You're going to have to do some kind of small letter. 1494 01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:40,199 Yeah, you're going to have to move around. 1495 01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:42,159 It is a lot of letters, that's the fact. 1496 01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:44,319 A lot of, you know, home of Stanford, 1497 01:18:44,319 --> 01:18:45,159 that's a lot of letters. 1498 01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:46,760 This thing's a magnetic board, 1499 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,560 but I don't know what to do with the letters. 1500 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,000 You just say Stanford. 1501 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,159 You just say Stanford. 1502 01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:53,060 Stamps school and lettering. 1503 01:18:53,060 --> 01:18:56,859 Right, right, right, right. 1504 01:18:56,859 --> 01:19:00,289 I think, I'm not going to guarantee it, 1505 01:19:00,289 --> 01:19:03,609 but I think I have one of my guys who can do it on a computer, too, 1506 01:19:03,609 --> 01:19:05,609 and he can mine it up and show it. 1507 01:19:05,609 --> 01:19:09,949 We just built a bronze plank, and we did that, and mined it up. 1508 01:19:09,949 --> 01:19:10,750 Yeah. 1509 01:19:10,750 --> 01:19:11,409 That'd be great. 1510 01:19:11,409 --> 01:19:15,210 We could kind of show it, bring it down to a small size, 1511 01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:17,770 and that's what it would look like from a big size. 1512 01:19:17,770 --> 01:19:18,869 I think we could do that. 1513 01:19:18,869 --> 01:19:21,609 The easiest way is just to have a bunch of them in, like, street signs, 1514 01:19:21,609 --> 01:19:23,670 and then put them on our own posts. 1515 01:19:23,670 --> 01:19:25,270 That's what I was saying. 1516 01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:27,109 Right, they're all individual. 1517 01:19:27,109 --> 01:19:28,930 You can order them. 1518 01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:30,229 Or Nancy suggested putting them up. 1519 01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:32,289 Yeah, putting them all in buildings, I think that's it. 1520 01:19:32,289 --> 01:19:33,630 It won't be super expensive. 1521 01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:35,470 Yeah, a library. 1522 01:19:35,470 --> 01:19:37,649 It's going to be each side, and within the... 1523 01:19:37,649 --> 01:19:39,470 You've got to have town with Stanford on the first one, 1524 01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:43,289 and then you have town office, library, school. 1525 01:19:43,289 --> 01:19:44,630 Something like that, double-sided. 1526 01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:47,409 And it's going to be temporary anyways. 1527 01:19:47,409 --> 01:19:48,350 Yep. 1528 01:19:48,350 --> 01:19:52,680 It probably won't cost you $400. 1529 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,899 Sheila, the other one was just four boards. 1530 01:19:55,899 --> 01:19:58,439 It had Stanford establish the date, 1531 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,340 and the next board said town office, 1532 01:20:00,340 --> 01:20:01,140 and the next one library. 1533 01:20:01,140 --> 01:20:02,939 And the next one is school. 1534 01:20:02,939 --> 01:20:05,500 And then they have to board them from one to each, 1535 01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:06,800 and you don't . 1536 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,300 But didn't we learn that that one was also a street sign? 1537 01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:12,859 No, it would fit in without the . 1538 01:20:12,859 --> 01:20:14,840 Aha. 1539 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,579 But I agree with Kurt right now, and both the signs are... 1540 01:20:17,579 --> 01:20:21,340 It's just a set of, both the signs are voiceless at this point. 1541 01:20:21,340 --> 01:20:22,640 Yeah. 1542 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,939 Okay. 1543 01:20:23,939 --> 01:20:25,239 It's just a street sign. 1544 01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:29,079 I don't know if you have to add it, like they'll be big. 1545 01:20:29,079 --> 01:20:30,380 Just a thought. 1546 01:20:30,380 --> 01:20:34,640 If you have the street sign. 1547 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,939 You're a tech. 1548 01:20:35,939 --> 01:20:37,239 You could put it out . 1549 01:20:37,239 --> 01:20:38,279 Just like the library one. 1550 01:20:38,279 --> 01:20:38,579 Oh. 1551 01:20:38,579 --> 01:20:39,739 It's a road sign, right? 1552 01:20:39,739 --> 01:20:42,180 I don't have to play games like you guys have to play games 1553 01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:43,560 to put up the street sign. 1554 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:44,399 Right. 1555 01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:44,699 But. 1556 01:20:44,699 --> 01:20:45,960 That's kind of our result. 1557 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:46,699 Yeah. 1558 01:20:46,699 --> 01:20:47,600 It just. 1559 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,000 Yeah, it was kind of . 1560 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,399 Yeah, it was temporary. 1561 01:20:51,399 --> 01:20:51,699 Yeah. 1562 01:20:51,699 --> 01:20:53,000 Yeah, it was . 1563 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:58,340 Just a thought. 1564 01:20:58,340 --> 01:21:00,140 Nobody will have to make anything. 1565 01:21:00,140 --> 01:21:02,600 You can just order it, and it'll come in, and you walk in, 1566 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,729 and it'll look professional. 1567 01:21:04,729 --> 01:21:05,630 John, you brought it up. 1568 01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:06,489 You run with it. 1569 01:21:06,489 --> 01:21:07,810 What's that? 1570 01:21:07,810 --> 01:21:08,449 You brought it up. 1571 01:21:08,449 --> 01:21:09,250 The sign? 1572 01:21:09,250 --> 01:21:10,010 Yeah. 1573 01:21:10,010 --> 01:21:10,689 Whatever. 1574 01:21:10,689 --> 01:21:11,409 Yeah. 1575 01:21:11,409 --> 01:21:12,710 So I could own it. 1576 01:21:12,710 --> 01:21:13,390 Well, we'll look at it. 1577 01:21:13,390 --> 01:21:14,630 Yeah, let's look at it a couple times. 1578 01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:18,090 3x4, Sanford School, town office, and library. 1579 01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:18,529 Yeah. 1580 01:21:18,529 --> 01:21:19,590 See what that one says? 1581 01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:20,189 Yeah. 1582 01:21:20,189 --> 01:21:21,289 We'll come up with a sign. 1583 01:21:21,289 --> 01:21:22,689 Short and sweet and to the point. 1584 01:21:22,689 --> 01:21:23,189 Right. 1585 01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:23,689 Don't get lost. 1586 01:21:23,689 --> 01:21:25,229 Let me tell you something. 1587 01:21:25,229 --> 01:21:28,029 I'd really like to see anything at this point. 1588 01:21:28,029 --> 01:21:29,170 Yeah. 1589 01:21:29,170 --> 01:21:30,229 You know what I mean? 1590 01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:32,270 You could put a chalkboard out there. 1591 01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:37,119 Or an umbrella over it, or something like that. 1592 01:21:37,119 --> 01:21:37,619 OK. 1593 01:21:37,619 --> 01:21:39,199 We should utilize that. 1594 01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,380 What is that big electronic square thing? 1595 01:21:41,380 --> 01:21:41,880 Out there? 1596 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,380 Yeah. 1597 01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:43,239 We should utilize that. 1598 01:21:43,239 --> 01:21:44,739 Power. 1599 01:21:44,739 --> 01:21:45,239 No power? 1600 01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:45,739 No. 1601 01:21:45,739 --> 01:21:46,239 Yeah. 1602 01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:48,100 We could put a stamp of school on it. 1603 01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:48,939 I agree with that. 1604 01:21:48,939 --> 01:21:49,739 I agree with that one. 1605 01:21:49,739 --> 01:21:50,239 Yeah. 1606 01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:52,899 They would have got that thing that was sort of past the wall 1607 01:21:52,899 --> 01:21:53,939 or something like that. 1608 01:21:53,939 --> 01:21:55,439 3x4, 1x2 is a little bit smaller. 1609 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:56,439 I don't like that color. 1610 01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:57,239 I can't see it. 1611 01:21:57,239 --> 01:21:57,939 I don't know why. 1612 01:21:57,939 --> 01:22:00,100 But I mean, I didn't know who was jumping last week. 1613 01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:00,819 Oh, don't worry. 1614 01:22:00,819 --> 01:22:01,319 Yeah. 1615 01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:01,819 I mean. 1616 01:22:01,819 --> 01:22:02,319 Yeah. 1617 01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:03,159 I just didn't like it. 1618 01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:04,659 I don't know. 1619 01:22:04,659 --> 01:22:05,819 It does have a lot of use. 1620 01:22:05,819 --> 01:22:09,340 It's the only way that you could have everybody under the sun 1621 01:22:09,340 --> 01:22:10,560 get everything they want. 1622 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,060 Right. 1623 01:22:11,060 --> 01:22:12,399 You weren't serious about that? 1624 01:22:12,399 --> 01:22:12,899 I was. 1625 01:22:12,899 --> 01:22:18,260 It would be nice if there was something that you could, 1626 01:22:18,260 --> 01:22:21,659 like, say if there was an event going on, 1627 01:22:21,659 --> 01:22:24,939 manipulate the sign so it could say what was going on. 1628 01:22:24,939 --> 01:22:27,439 People would always try, hey, what's going on at school? 1629 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,819 They see all the cards, but they don't know what the hell's 1630 01:22:29,819 --> 01:22:30,319 going on. 1631 01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:31,939 You could have saved it for them. 1632 01:22:31,939 --> 01:22:32,319 Yeah. 1633 01:22:32,319 --> 01:22:36,279 That's that one right, you know, that side where you come in. 1634 01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:38,279 There's that one there where it says, you know, 1635 01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:40,819 back to school night, or that one's there. 1636 01:22:40,819 --> 01:22:41,319 Right. 1637 01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:42,819 For those of that kind of thing. 1638 01:22:42,819 --> 01:22:44,319 Is that the school property, though? 1639 01:22:44,319 --> 01:22:46,020 Because I saw Ray . 1640 01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:46,520 Yeah. 1641 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:47,020 Yeah. 1642 01:22:47,020 --> 01:22:47,520 They did. 1643 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,020 They care. 1644 01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:52,590 They put letters up for us before. 1645 01:22:52,590 --> 01:22:54,689 But we can't keep it up in the winter, 1646 01:22:54,689 --> 01:22:58,229 because Lori's after the final snow bank. 1647 01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:59,989 Aw, I'll get you some snow shoes. 1648 01:22:59,989 --> 01:23:00,989 We could do it together. 1649 01:23:00,989 --> 01:23:01,489 Oh. 1650 01:23:01,489 --> 01:23:01,989 Awesome. 1651 01:23:02,989 --> 01:23:03,989 OK. 1652 01:23:03,989 --> 01:23:08,760 Old business done, new business. 1653 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,850 I don't know if this is old business. 1654 01:23:11,850 --> 01:23:14,850 I wanted to see if you wanted to talk 1655 01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:21,010 about having the election set up for new listeners. 1656 01:23:21,010 --> 01:23:25,079 And I also wanted to see how you wanted to handle your next meeting. 1657 01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:27,079 You always meet on the first and third Thursdays. 1658 01:23:27,079 --> 01:23:30,359 The first Thursday is July 4th. 1659 01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:31,359 I'm not coming. 1660 01:23:31,359 --> 01:23:34,359 So do you want to skip the first Thursday meeting, 1661 01:23:34,359 --> 01:23:37,359 all together, and just meet once that month on the 20th? 1662 01:23:37,359 --> 01:23:39,359 Or do you want to have two meetings, like July 11th 1663 01:23:39,359 --> 01:23:41,359 and July 18th, back to back? 1664 01:23:41,359 --> 01:23:42,359 True. 1665 01:23:42,359 --> 01:23:44,359 The first one. 1666 01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:45,359 Skip. 1667 01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:46,359 Two more. 1668 01:23:46,359 --> 01:23:47,359 Summer recess. 1669 01:23:47,359 --> 01:23:48,359 Yeah. 1670 01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:49,359 Yeah. 1671 01:23:49,359 --> 01:23:53,359 So July 18th. 1672 01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:55,359 So skip, yeah, the first one, all together, 1673 01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:57,359 and just meet on July 18th. 1674 01:23:57,359 --> 01:23:59,359 July 3rd, skip. 1675 01:23:59,359 --> 01:24:00,359 OK. 1676 01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:03,359 July 11th, or July 4th. 1677 01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:08,359 So skip your first meeting, and then just have your July 18th meeting. 1678 01:24:08,359 --> 01:24:09,359 July 18th meeting. 1679 01:24:09,359 --> 01:24:10,489 OK. 1680 01:24:10,489 --> 01:24:11,489 All right. 1681 01:24:11,489 --> 01:24:14,489 Now, Lori brought up about the warning for the town meeting. 1682 01:24:14,489 --> 01:24:17,199 I don't think Mike is going to like this, 1683 01:24:17,199 --> 01:24:19,199 because you made the motion. 1684 01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:22,199 But I'm not in favor of special town meetings 1685 01:24:22,199 --> 01:24:28,739 because you get a packed audience. 1686 01:24:28,739 --> 01:24:32,739 And it just seems like the attendance is stacked in favor 1687 01:24:32,739 --> 01:24:33,739 of it. 1688 01:24:33,739 --> 01:24:37,739 So we have a people expect town meeting in March, 1689 01:24:37,739 --> 01:24:38,739 and they all come out. 1690 01:24:38,739 --> 01:24:40,739 The special town meetings, I don't think 1691 01:24:40,739 --> 01:24:43,800 a lot of people show up. 1692 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:49,029 And then, as Mike has pointed out on many occasions, 1693 01:24:49,029 --> 01:24:52,029 it's better that we appoint listers instead 1694 01:24:52,029 --> 01:24:55,029 of elected ones. 1695 01:24:55,029 --> 01:24:58,060 We can all receive the work that's being done. 1696 01:24:58,060 --> 01:25:03,090 And right now, an option to the elected listers, 1697 01:25:03,090 --> 01:25:04,090 couldn't we appoint? 1698 01:25:04,090 --> 01:25:09,090 We may as well than by 0.3 assessor of district 1699 01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:11,090 clerks. 1700 01:25:11,090 --> 01:25:12,090 Or maybe some name, some title. 1701 01:25:12,090 --> 01:25:17,090 Let them get familiar with working with the software, 1702 01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:19,090 with our district adviser, Terry, 1703 01:25:19,090 --> 01:25:22,090 or a tired assessor, or you or two. 1704 01:25:22,090 --> 01:25:25,960 Because, in the meantime, then we 1705 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,960 can pay for their training, see if they like it. 1706 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,960 They might not like it even after they're elected. 1707 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,960 I don't have a problem with that. 1708 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:40,739 training part of it after the last meeting after i made the motion then we talked about it some more 1709 01:25:40,739 --> 01:25:47,060 after it was already passed and we talked about the training and if i i guess i want to make sure 1710 01:25:47,060 --> 01:25:54,340 that you get on the same page with the training if we appoint the state does not pay for the training 1711 01:25:58,420 --> 01:26:02,260 if you appoint someone they have to come with the training 1712 01:26:02,260 --> 01:26:10,710 already if if a person is elected or you could have you could appoint a couple of assessor clerks 1713 01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:19,970 like sally is an assessor clerk and then they can be trained for free through the state but 1714 01:26:19,970 --> 01:26:27,569 if they're not a listener okay they just have to come with the training you know i guess my 1715 01:26:27,569 --> 01:26:32,930 question would be then is when we say dog training what does the training 1716 01:26:33,090 --> 01:26:39,970 entail how much are the papers of all of the training that they have is it and their courses 1717 01:26:39,970 --> 01:26:49,699 different courses do you feel it's months days years well i mean they only offer so many courses 1718 01:26:49,699 --> 01:26:57,460 every year so you're not going to just become a certified assessor in one year i mean you have 1719 01:26:57,460 --> 01:27:02,819 level one you have level two you have level three you have level four these are listeners how much 1720 01:27:04,180 --> 01:27:09,460 do you have to pay to be an assessor right no a mister is elected an assessor is appointed they 1721 01:27:09,460 --> 01:27:17,750 do the same job it's just a change in the name just a change of a name so if you appointed a 1722 01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:23,750 couple assessor clerks they would you would still need to have a real 1723 01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:30,079 but they could be learning the ropes in the meantime they could be beginning to go to the 1724 01:27:30,079 --> 01:27:36,050 classes they could be learning the software they could be learning what the job entails 1725 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:46,369 so they can be brought on without training if right if you have like an assistant or a clerk 1726 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:57,029 working under yeah they could work with john i don't think he would i don't think he would train 1727 01:27:57,029 --> 01:28:04,069 them right that's like well yeah they're gonna pick up a lot being with them but we don't even 1728 01:28:04,069 --> 01:28:10,470 have a contract with him correct correct his contract is like um a la carte with nimra right 1729 01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:20,239 how much do we want to do and pay for or pay them to do we have a state uh district advisor 1730 01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:27,760 terry is our maybe once a year complicated this process so much that it's followed by nobody 1731 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:35,680 could be and again i think we heard when sally was here a couple weeks ago she said the state 1732 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,880 may end up taking up doing all this reappraising and all this taxing and 1733 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:47,680 assessments themselves so i i don't have a problem either way i disagree a little bit 1734 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:52,640 with the company i think if we post the town meeting if you have a interest in it you don't 1735 01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:58,560 show up shame on you so i don't believe that i believe that any media can be packed the regular 1736 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:04,079 comedy yes yes yeah but if you if people are that concerned or you know they have a 1737 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:10,800 passion about a certain subject they should show up we make it very plain and we give them all kinds of 1738 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:17,760 notice out there but that being said i just want to do the right what's the best thing for the town 1739 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:24,560 i do agree with having control because employees i mean we can hire someone and they can take the 1740 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:31,359 money and not do anything right right but on the other hand is i was under impression especially 1741 01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:39,359 with sally calling us that we're not getting anybody to step forward and it was the training 1742 01:29:39,359 --> 01:29:40,319 that was hanging there now 1743 01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:44,880 that's what my impression was but it looks like the training is going to hang up either way 1744 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:51,520 for the full-fledged listener yeah but you're saying there's kind of a way around this where 1745 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:57,279 we can hire our mother john because we're going to have to if we elect someone they're still going 1746 01:29:57,279 --> 01:30:03,199 to need to train under someone right so now you've got some election getting paid that doesn't know 1747 01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:07,859 their job until they get training okay it turns up by the time we're fully training apparently 1748 01:30:07,859 --> 01:30:10,340 right so i guess 1749 01:30:11,380 --> 01:30:18,979 financially it doesn't matter but the main goal is to get rid of or do is the least amount 1750 01:30:18,979 --> 01:30:24,260 we have to with nimric because they charge a lot of money right so financially that's 1751 01:30:24,260 --> 01:30:29,460 where i was going i thought it was in our best interest to elect it i don't 1752 01:30:30,340 --> 01:30:34,819 i i don't want to argue about the town meeting at all that doesn't matter to me 1753 01:30:34,819 --> 01:30:41,300 what's the best you know if i made the motion and i was under impression it was the education and we 1754 01:30:41,380 --> 01:30:46,819 and find group over on that i have no problem going i would like to see the local people 1755 01:30:48,789 --> 01:30:55,670 working on this i mean you know doing the work on the computer going out on the roads and going oh 1756 01:30:55,670 --> 01:31:02,720 gee they just put an addition on their house we don't know that but could somebody elected lister 1757 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:10,439 say i ran for a lister i know nothing about it and i've been here a long time so we've had 1758 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:19,319 it i didn't do that no but i think we've had um the appointed lister as an appointed lister for 1759 01:31:19,319 --> 01:31:28,449 a i'm going to say at least six seven years now when deb was born she was right that's what i'm 1760 01:31:28,449 --> 01:31:36,000 saying we changed that at least seven years ago i don't know was it that long let me tell you when 1761 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,640 when um that's three years nobody remembers you know 1762 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:48,479 yeah i think it was back before we had at least a couple years and then we would remember it for 1763 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:55,199 a couple of years so yeah i think it was quite a bit of time i mean out of that how many people 1764 01:31:55,199 --> 01:32:04,550 have stepped forward that out that yet appointed i know the answer zero sally was a lister that's 1765 01:32:04,550 --> 01:32:09,670 not what i said in the five years we changed that how many people have stepped forward 1766 01:32:12,550 --> 01:32:19,909 that's yeah that's in the way of the past i'm talking in the last five years that's when it 1767 01:32:19,909 --> 01:32:27,539 ended we voted yeah what i'm talking about ending is we went from elected to appointed that was only 1768 01:32:27,539 --> 01:32:36,770 about five seven seven years ago when deb darwin was a elected lister that's the last elected 1769 01:32:36,770 --> 01:32:42,369 blister he had that was it that was i thought it was time about let's just say five seven years ago 1770 01:32:43,170 --> 01:32:43,810 since then 1771 01:32:44,210 --> 01:32:53,029 no one has stepped forward since we went to a point no zero and so i have no problem trying 1772 01:32:53,029 --> 01:32:58,310 it again i have no problem i don't think i think sally says we probably won't get anybody to run 1773 01:32:58,310 --> 01:33:03,350 either because if they're not stepping forward being appointed while they step forward to run 1774 01:33:03,989 --> 01:33:10,130 you know so i think the running is like well one two and three years we have to do 1775 01:33:11,300 --> 01:33:14,340 right but i'm just saying but we can't throw one 1776 01:33:14,659 --> 01:33:21,939 so if you could try it instead of doing the meeting i have no problem whatever way you want 1777 01:33:21,939 --> 01:33:28,180 to do it what's the best interest of the town try it um you know if jack box can do it so there's one 1778 01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:33,380 my suggestion is not saying no 1779 01:33:34,819 --> 01:33:42,739 the biggest problem with knowing what positions are open is that there's no place to go to say 1780 01:33:42,739 --> 01:33:44,579 these are the positions our town has 1781 01:33:45,300 --> 01:33:50,979 the only way anyone knows these things is if when the election time comes because you have to fill 1782 01:33:50,979 --> 01:33:55,539 out a ballot you know that but before that you really don't know unless you're paying 1783 01:33:55,539 --> 01:33:58,020 the commitment right unless you're paying the connection that's right 1784 01:33:58,020 --> 01:34:02,659 you know right what we need to do to get people to come is people need to know 1785 01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:04,579 so how do we advertise 1786 01:34:04,579 --> 01:34:11,699 so it needs to go on the top of our sign it is on there is it everything we have i don't know 1787 01:34:11,699 --> 01:34:12,659 need things for it 1788 01:34:12,659 --> 01:34:13,220 i don't know 1789 01:34:13,220 --> 01:34:13,859 it don't save so much money 1790 01:34:13,859 --> 01:34:14,479 it don't save so much money 1791 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:14,500 so we we're over it but you know if you don't do this set out everything we have i don't know i don't know it'll save so many dollars to do it it'll save so much money 1792 01:34:14,500 --> 01:34:23,699 always goes lori starts in december saying these are the vacant terms right but i you might if i 1793 01:34:23,699 --> 01:34:29,140 don't ever look at the minutes for anything right then i'll never know yeah and if we had a place 1794 01:34:29,140 --> 01:34:34,500 like say on our town website that said these are the jobs that are involved in our town 1795 01:34:35,489 --> 01:34:40,369 and then these are the ones we look for then people will know are they on the website that's 1796 01:34:40,369 --> 01:34:45,399 what the question was so let's do that that's easy i'll go on the front page or something no 1797 01:34:45,399 --> 01:34:49,880 no i'm just saying that's easy enough though you can have a link that says hey you know like we 1798 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:55,640 go here and then i can see like i remember doing the election stuff right there's a page for 1799 01:34:55,640 --> 01:35:00,520 elections though yeah these are what's going to be open these are what's over now you know a vacant 1800 01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:05,880 seat yeah because we're making it right next to it right now if we have vacant seats then people 1801 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:10,520 will know and i think that's the biggest problem if people don't know yeah yeah that's a good 1802 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:10,600 problem 1803 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:15,640 right there and a link that says how to see what it is that the training is and what it is what 1804 01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:20,520 does it mean to be a lister you know right again if you're not coming here i mean i thought it's 1805 01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:29,479 still it's like it's a little mysterious we talked about it a lot i'm still not 100 on the 1806 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:35,800 the training part of them i mean it definitely sounded when they first come out that if you know 1807 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:40,039 if you're not trained you can't get back that's what i do that's the first part that i know we 1808 01:35:40,039 --> 01:35:44,520 can do it while we're hiring you need to get hired or even get appointed you have a bunch of 1809 01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:51,399 training right is that right do you want to commit that much exactly do you like it well i don't know 1810 01:35:51,399 --> 01:35:56,359 if i like that right we're being a slug there's no training and they love kurt's doing it yeah 1811 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,520 oh see i didn't pick on you guys this time 1812 01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:10,390 lifelong training so my opinion is just let's go slow can we make a motion 1813 01:36:10,390 --> 01:36:15,670 to not have an open town meeting but it's the rest of the board 1814 01:36:15,670 --> 01:36:18,470 i am not going to yell at you don't be nervous 1815 01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:20,069 no no no 1816 01:36:20,069 --> 01:36:21,510 i can't believe you don't agree 1817 01:36:23,029 --> 01:36:24,869 be careful that's what they give you 1818 01:36:24,869 --> 01:36:27,109 yeah yeah you should have had negligence 1819 01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:39,189 all right i'll make a motion that we try the appointing what is it called 1820 01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:40,550 kirk assessor 1821 01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:41,510 kirk assessor 1822 01:36:42,229 --> 01:36:49,989 assistant 1823 01:36:59,329 --> 01:37:02,609 i mean what was it before so can we go back to the old 1824 01:37:03,329 --> 01:37:05,890 way we did it and say there's a uh there's a 1825 01:37:06,689 --> 01:37:12,770 position in three years two years one year yes and do that too so someone might come here and say i 1826 01:37:12,770 --> 01:37:14,270 I just want to try it for one year. 1827 01:37:14,270 --> 01:37:15,109 Right. 1828 01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:16,369 And then maybe they're still vacant seats 1829 01:37:16,369 --> 01:37:18,529 and they'll say, I think that's three year one time. 1830 01:37:18,529 --> 01:37:21,109 Yeah, but they were all three year terms that revolved. 1831 01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:23,090 I'd be amazed if we got three people showing. 1832 01:37:23,090 --> 01:37:25,720 Amazed, you know? 1833 01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,779 Because we haven't had anybody yet. 1834 01:37:27,779 --> 01:37:30,109 Well, how long is the training, Lori? 1835 01:37:30,109 --> 01:37:30,949 Depends. 1836 01:37:30,949 --> 01:37:31,789 Depends. 1837 01:37:31,789 --> 01:37:33,770 You could have like four years of training 1838 01:37:33,770 --> 01:37:35,090 if you want to go all the way. 1839 01:37:35,090 --> 01:37:37,470 But it's not like consistent training, 1840 01:37:37,470 --> 01:37:39,670 you know, a week here, a week there. 1841 01:37:39,670 --> 01:37:42,810 Are a lot of these online, or are they online? 1842 01:37:42,810 --> 01:37:44,229 A lot of them are online. 1843 01:37:44,229 --> 01:37:46,409 Some of them are in person. 1844 01:37:46,409 --> 01:37:47,149 And where are they? 1845 01:37:47,149 --> 01:37:48,310 Burlington? 1846 01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:50,090 Well, that's another question we're 1847 01:37:50,090 --> 01:37:51,090 going to have to put down. 1848 01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:53,810 So we're going to have to say that we're 1849 01:37:53,810 --> 01:37:56,189 going to have to come up with some kind of job description. 1850 01:37:56,189 --> 01:38:00,350 So 20 hours a week, or whatever Sally has right now, 1851 01:38:00,350 --> 01:38:04,189 you put up and say, OK, there's 10 hours a week at $20 an hour, 1852 01:38:04,189 --> 01:38:07,430 or 20 hours a week at $80. 1853 01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:08,029 I don't know. 1854 01:38:08,029 --> 01:38:12,109 I know that that was talked about way back 1855 01:38:12,109 --> 01:38:13,270 with the numbers. 1856 01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:16,289 The person wanted to get more. 1857 01:38:16,289 --> 01:38:18,449 I have no problem giving out raises. 1858 01:38:18,449 --> 01:38:20,090 I mean, that makes sense. 1859 01:38:20,090 --> 01:38:21,890 And all the people know what they're doing. 1860 01:38:21,890 --> 01:38:27,390 My concern was, someone wants to go from $16 an hour to $20 1861 01:38:27,390 --> 01:38:31,630 an hour, and they're elected, and they don't do the job. 1862 01:38:31,630 --> 01:38:33,029 And they don't do the training. 1863 01:38:33,029 --> 01:38:34,590 And they say, I'm not going to show up. 1864 01:38:34,590 --> 01:38:36,409 I'm going to put my hours in. 1865 01:38:36,409 --> 01:38:38,869 You have to pay them that raise. 1866 01:38:38,869 --> 01:38:39,750 They didn't earn it. 1867 01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:42,750 That's what I agree with that. 1868 01:38:42,750 --> 01:38:43,250 Yes. 1869 01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:49,130 But I mean, I have no problem giving out raises. 1870 01:38:49,130 --> 01:38:56,800 To me, this town in general pays way too well for everything, 1871 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:57,960 for everything. 1872 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:03,180 And if you went out there in the private sector 1873 01:39:03,180 --> 01:39:08,909 and looked at Dave's job, Larry's job, or any of these jobs, 1874 01:39:08,909 --> 01:39:10,909 they're doing it because they care about the town. 1875 01:39:10,909 --> 01:39:11,409 Yep. 1876 01:39:11,409 --> 01:39:11,909 Simple as that. 1877 01:39:11,909 --> 01:39:13,369 So hopefully, we get a person who 1878 01:39:13,369 --> 01:39:16,180 cares about the town and wants to do this job. 1879 01:39:16,859 --> 01:39:21,829 But on the other hand, don't pay them way too much. 1880 01:39:21,829 --> 01:39:23,960 But we can discuss that more, don't we? 1881 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:24,460 Yes. 1882 01:39:24,460 --> 01:39:28,369 And that was the thing with all the last 1883 01:39:28,369 --> 01:39:30,529 listers that Sheila mentioned, for example, 1884 01:39:30,529 --> 01:39:32,869 was all built in love for the town. 1885 01:39:32,869 --> 01:39:33,369 Sure. 1886 01:39:33,369 --> 01:39:33,869 Sure. 1887 01:39:33,869 --> 01:39:37,489 But that was before I moved to town. 1888 01:39:37,489 --> 01:39:39,609 I mean, I don't know how long it's been gone, 1889 01:39:39,609 --> 01:39:44,170 but it's been over 10 years, 15 years, 15 years. 1890 01:39:44,170 --> 01:39:47,869 So that's a long time ago that you had someone who wanted to do the job. 1891 01:39:47,869 --> 01:39:48,369 Right? 1892 01:39:48,369 --> 01:39:48,869 Mm-hmm. 1893 01:39:48,869 --> 01:39:53,140 You know, that's a volunteer fire department. 1894 01:39:53,140 --> 01:39:55,140 It was more of a community event, too. 1895 01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:57,140 They were friends, and they got together. 1896 01:39:57,140 --> 01:40:00,140 I just read an article, and this guy in the article 1897 01:40:00,140 --> 01:40:02,140 talked about volunteer fire departments. 1898 01:40:02,140 --> 01:40:07,399 And he said, I believe that the last volunteer fireman 1899 01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:09,399 has already been born at this time. 1900 01:40:09,399 --> 01:40:10,880 I believe that. 1901 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:11,880 So think about that. 1902 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,880 He's been born, and that's it. 1903 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,880 So the big pool is going to be on the eventually. 1904 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:18,479 OK. 1905 01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,479 And now, think about that for this town. 1906 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:21,979 Yeah. 1907 01:40:21,979 --> 01:40:23,720 We just bought a $500,000 truck. 1908 01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,479 Clare Short just bought one and paid more than that. 1909 01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:27,779 Think about this for a minute. 1910 01:40:27,779 --> 01:40:32,220 We have no fire department, and now you've got to hire a fire department. 1911 01:40:32,220 --> 01:40:33,920 You think it's expensive now? 1912 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,420 Wait. 1913 01:40:35,420 --> 01:40:38,039 Yeah, there's definitely something going on culturally 1914 01:40:38,039 --> 01:40:41,600 where that link has just been disconnected. 1915 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,319 Everything's got to be for money. 1916 01:40:43,319 --> 01:40:43,819 Yeah. 1917 01:40:43,819 --> 01:40:44,720 All about money. 1918 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:45,720 Here's the other thing. 1919 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,720 Our contract with Denver is off. 1920 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,720 After the BCA hearing. 1921 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,720 So we need to work on a contract with Nimerick. 1922 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,720 It's like, as he said, an a la carte menu. 1923 01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,720 Do we want him to do this, this, and this? 1924 01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,720 Or is the assessor clerk going to do this, this, and this? 1925 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,720 Are we going to have our district advisor? 1926 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,720 I don't know. 1927 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,720 So right now, Sally's our assessor clerk. 1928 01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:10,720 Yes. 1929 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:15,720 If Sally isn't here tomorrow, then can you 1930 01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:16,750 adopt this issue? 1931 01:41:16,750 --> 01:41:17,750 I don't know. 1932 01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:19,750 She just says, hey, I had enough. 1933 01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:20,750 Yep. 1934 01:41:20,750 --> 01:41:24,810 If Sally's not doing it anymore, and we don't have anybody knocking at the door right now, 1935 01:41:24,810 --> 01:41:30,810 can we, after the contract's up, or signed, can we add to it down the road? 1936 01:41:30,810 --> 01:41:31,810 I don't know. 1937 01:41:31,810 --> 01:41:34,810 I imagine that we could if we were in a bond. 1938 01:41:34,810 --> 01:41:35,810 You know what I'm saying? 1939 01:41:35,810 --> 01:41:39,810 I mean, our district advisor doesn't come around because she doesn't need to because 1940 01:41:39,810 --> 01:41:40,810 we have Nimerick. 1941 01:41:40,810 --> 01:41:46,810 But if we needed to rely on someone for assistance in helping with the software and helping, 1942 01:41:46,810 --> 01:41:47,810 I'm sure- 1943 01:41:47,810 --> 01:41:48,810 She would come in? 1944 01:41:48,810 --> 01:41:49,810 She would come in and help. 1945 01:41:49,810 --> 01:41:50,810 Oh. 1946 01:41:50,810 --> 01:41:51,810 So our software is still part Nimerick and still part state? 1947 01:41:51,810 --> 01:41:52,810 Yeah. 1948 01:41:52,810 --> 01:41:54,520 There's some certified and there's some Nimerick. 1949 01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:55,520 So we'll still need Nimerick, but we don't need a Nimerick assessor. 1950 01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:56,520 I think you will in a while. 1951 01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:57,520 You know, I think maybe since Sally's the one who knows what's being done on a day-to-day 1952 01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:58,710 basis- 1953 01:41:58,710 --> 01:41:59,710 Excuse me. 1954 01:41:59,710 --> 01:42:00,710 I mean, she would be the best one to say, you know, we need a Nimerick assessor. 1955 01:42:00,710 --> 01:42:01,710 Yeah. 1956 01:42:01,710 --> 01:42:02,710 Yeah. 1957 01:42:02,710 --> 01:42:03,710 Yeah. 1958 01:42:03,710 --> 01:42:04,710 Yeah. 1959 01:42:04,710 --> 01:42:06,859 Yeah. 1960 01:42:06,859 --> 01:42:07,859 Yeah. 1961 01:42:07,859 --> 01:42:09,279 Yeah. 1962 01:42:09,279 --> 01:42:11,680 Yeah. 1963 01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:12,680 Yeah. 1964 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:13,680 Yeah. 1965 01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:14,680 Yeah. 1966 01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:15,680 Yeah. 1967 01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:16,680 Yeah. 1968 01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:17,680 Yeah. 1969 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:18,680 Yeah. 1970 01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:19,680 Yeah. 1971 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:20,680 Yeah. 1972 01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:21,680 Yeah. 1973 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,680 Yeah. 1974 01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:23,680 Yeah. 1975 01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:24,680 Yeah. 1976 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:25,680 Yeah. 1977 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:26,680 Yeah. 1978 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:27,680 We can handle this, this, this. 1979 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:28,680 Right. 1980 01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:29,680 It never needs to do that and that and that. 1981 01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:30,680 Right. 1982 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:31,680 I- Yes. 1983 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,680 But again, if Sally said, because she's here she says, okay, we can do this, this 1984 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:33,680 and this, and then she's not here- 1985 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,779 Will this girl from the state come in and help us with that? 1986 01:42:36,779 --> 01:42:38,960 Or? 1987 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:39,960 You sure? 1988 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:45,750 I really think that that kind of links together what we were just talking about. 1989 01:42:45,750 --> 01:42:52,069 We should try real hard, advertise, get people out, get the word out that we're looking for 1990 01:42:52,069 --> 01:42:53,050 at least one truth. 1991 01:42:53,050 --> 01:42:58,039 person to, you know, come in and start learning that job. 1992 01:42:58,039 --> 01:42:58,880 Right. 1993 01:42:58,880 --> 01:42:59,720 Generational success. 1994 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:00,560 Yeah. 1995 01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:01,380 Right, right. 1996 01:43:01,380 --> 01:43:02,220 Definitely. 1997 01:43:02,220 --> 01:43:03,239 And have a job description so that people know 1998 01:43:03,239 --> 01:43:05,640 what it is, you know, and we follow it. 1999 01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,380 This is what that means. 2000 01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:09,220 And that's, we should come up with some, 2001 01:43:09,220 --> 01:43:13,359 at least a vague description of this is what you're doing. 2002 01:43:13,359 --> 01:43:15,720 Because, like you said, I'm not. 2003 01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:17,840 Well, we do have a job description. 2004 01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:18,680 Right. 2005 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,060 Well, that's the thing, if one of the jobs that is paid, 2006 01:43:23,060 --> 01:43:24,960 it's not a lot of hours. 2007 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,479 I can't remember, she had like 10, 15 hours, 2008 01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,039 I think Deb had, right? 2009 01:43:29,039 --> 01:43:30,340 Well, it varies. 2010 01:43:30,340 --> 01:43:33,319 It's heavy in the spring because you have to lodge 2011 01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:36,279 a grant on list by April 1st and then all the hearings. 2012 01:43:36,279 --> 01:43:38,960 And it's heavy in the fall when you're going through 2013 01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,140 and reviewing all the permits and the work 2014 01:43:42,140 --> 01:43:44,699 and the building people have done. 2015 01:43:44,699 --> 01:43:46,520 In the middle of winter, you might not come in 2016 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:47,640 for weeks at a time. 2017 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,359 But we had a budget too, though, 2018 01:43:49,359 --> 01:43:51,119 so we must have known that. 2019 01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:52,359 But, yeah. 2020 01:43:52,359 --> 01:43:53,359 Throughout the year, everybody would have had 2021 01:43:53,359 --> 01:43:56,380 20 hours one day in a one week and zero the next. 2022 01:43:56,380 --> 01:43:58,380 Right, so you might average out at . 2023 01:43:58,380 --> 01:44:00,079 We should have known, kind of get an idea 2024 01:44:00,079 --> 01:44:03,760 of what that is so we can tell people, okay. 2025 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:05,579 Because if we say, oh, it's $100 an hour, 2026 01:44:05,579 --> 01:44:06,840 we can only get one hour. 2027 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,539 Well, you have a job description 2028 01:44:09,539 --> 01:44:13,060 for the assessor clerk, and that can be modified, too, 2029 01:44:13,060 --> 01:44:18,260 depending on what the clerks want to do, 2030 01:44:18,260 --> 01:44:20,140 what the assessor wants to do. 2031 01:44:20,140 --> 01:44:22,720 The assessor also gave us a checklist. 2032 01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:23,960 He was going to do this, this, 2033 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,100 and this, maybe we don't want to do this. 2034 01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:29,180 I do believe that if someone is interested, 2035 01:44:29,180 --> 01:44:30,380 they should come to the board. 2036 01:44:30,380 --> 01:44:33,079 We can talk about it, too, because, again, 2037 01:44:33,079 --> 01:44:35,479 it's not going to be a great job. 2038 01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,300 It's not a job you're going to raise four kids with, 2039 01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:38,640 by any means. 2040 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,279 So it's like Kurt said. 2041 01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:42,020 You're going to want to help the town. 2042 01:44:42,020 --> 01:44:45,439 You're going to have to have time to come in and do the job. 2043 01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:49,079 It's not something that the average Joe that's got a nine 2044 01:44:49,079 --> 01:44:52,399 to five job is going to want to take on. 2045 01:44:52,399 --> 01:44:53,920 So it is. 2046 01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,020 But. 2047 01:44:55,020 --> 01:44:56,260 People are interested. 2048 01:44:56,260 --> 01:44:58,520 We can go from there, too, but, you know, 2049 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,460 get a job description and even a somewhat. 2050 01:45:02,460 --> 01:45:03,359 Do you want the excuse? 2051 01:45:03,359 --> 01:45:04,260 Thank you. 2052 01:45:04,260 --> 01:45:05,460 You've got to call them, huh? 2053 01:45:05,460 --> 01:45:10,880 I'm just going to mess this up. 2054 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:15,970 Okay. So we're going to do this job description. 2055 01:45:15,970 --> 01:45:23,560 Yeah, I had no problem stepping back from the town clerk. 2056 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,960 And see if you can find something from NIMRC, 2057 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:28,960 what they're a la carte. 2058 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,829 Stop this, because I, we're going to. 2059 01:45:31,829 --> 01:45:33,130 What does that end? 2060 01:45:33,130 --> 01:45:33,930 I have it already. 2061 01:45:33,930 --> 01:45:34,550 Oh, okay. 2062 01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:35,050 You're good. 2063 01:45:35,050 --> 01:45:36,229 I just need to sit down with you. 2064 01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:38,760 When was it found right then? 2065 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:43,319 When all of the appeals are done for the scrambles. 2066 01:45:43,319 --> 01:45:44,920 So that could be August. 2067 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:48,600 The BC hearings that start next Wednesday at 4 2068 01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,500 and however long they go on. 2069 01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:52,819 And there's only four right now. 2070 01:45:52,819 --> 01:45:53,380 Three. 2071 01:45:53,380 --> 01:45:54,800 Three. 2072 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:59,229 So they could be quick. 2073 01:45:59,229 --> 01:45:59,729 Yeah, four. 2074 01:45:59,729 --> 01:46:00,729 I mean, by August. 2075 01:46:00,729 --> 01:46:01,989 It should be over. 2076 01:46:01,989 --> 01:46:02,289 Yeah. 2077 01:46:02,289 --> 01:46:03,369 Yeah. 2078 01:46:03,369 --> 01:46:07,949 Well, I'm just asking because we're only going to have one meeting in July. 2079 01:46:07,949 --> 01:46:13,439 So we should know what we want. 2080 01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:14,460 Yeah. 2081 01:46:14,460 --> 01:46:19,359 That meeting. 2082 01:46:19,359 --> 01:46:21,300 You have that stuff for us? 2083 01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:24,359 Talk to Sally and see if she can talk to us. 2084 01:46:24,359 --> 01:46:27,460 And maybe we'd have to meet separately, not at a meeting, 2085 01:46:27,460 --> 01:46:29,899 because it might take a long time. 2086 01:46:29,899 --> 01:46:32,899 Who's doing what? 2087 01:46:32,899 --> 01:46:36,119 Yeah, I still, I still would like to ask the states on that. 2088 01:46:36,119 --> 01:46:38,640 This is not going to work. 2089 01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:39,739 But. 2090 01:46:39,739 --> 01:46:45,699 We were doing that when they called the Board of Abatement. 2091 01:46:45,699 --> 01:46:50,800 If I grieve my own home, I can't sit on any other case. 2092 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:51,800 Right. 2093 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,159 Well, this was a big change that we just had. 2094 01:46:54,159 --> 01:46:56,340 Everybody's house has doubled. 2095 01:46:56,340 --> 01:46:59,289 My camp tripled, tripled. 2096 01:46:59,289 --> 01:47:03,029 I kind of sat back and said, well, I might want to go, 2097 01:47:03,029 --> 01:47:05,369 but then I wouldn't be able to sit on the board. 2098 01:47:05,369 --> 01:47:07,670 Deborah Shards can't sit on the board now. 2099 01:47:07,670 --> 01:47:09,470 If she said something, she wouldn't be able to. 2100 01:47:09,470 --> 01:47:10,829 Pretty soon, we won't have anybody sitting on the board. 2101 01:47:10,829 --> 01:47:11,829 We're not going to be able to sit on the board. 2102 01:47:12,109 --> 01:47:13,109 This doesn't make sense. 2103 01:47:13,109 --> 01:47:14,109 We probably don't want to sit on the board. 2104 01:47:14,109 --> 01:47:16,489 If you can't sit on the board for your case, it would make sense, obviously. 2105 01:47:16,489 --> 01:47:17,489 Right. 2106 01:47:17,489 --> 01:47:18,489 That makes sense. 2107 01:47:18,489 --> 01:47:19,489 Yeah. 2108 01:47:19,489 --> 01:47:20,489 And when you can't sit on the board. 2109 01:47:20,489 --> 01:47:21,489 You're on the board, right? 2110 01:47:21,489 --> 01:47:22,489 Yeah. 2111 01:47:22,489 --> 01:47:23,489 I mean, half the board's right here. 2112 01:47:23,489 --> 01:47:24,489 If we all grieve, we'd be moving . 2113 01:47:24,489 --> 01:47:25,489 We should ask the state and say, this is. 2114 01:47:25,489 --> 01:47:26,489 What did they do in that case? 2115 01:47:26,489 --> 01:47:27,489 It's crazy. 2116 01:47:27,489 --> 01:47:28,489 Yeah. 2117 01:47:28,489 --> 01:47:29,489 Right. 2118 01:47:29,489 --> 01:47:30,590 Because, I mean, I thought there was going to be a hell of a lot more than three. 2119 01:47:30,590 --> 01:47:31,590 Yeah. 2120 01:47:31,590 --> 01:47:32,590 Two. 2121 01:47:32,590 --> 01:47:33,590 Two. 2122 01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:34,590 Two. 2123 01:47:34,590 --> 01:47:35,590 Two. 2124 01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:36,590 Two. 2125 01:47:36,590 --> 01:47:37,590 Two. 2126 01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:38,590 Two. 2127 01:47:38,590 --> 01:47:39,590 Two. 2128 01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:40,590 Two. 2129 01:47:40,590 --> 01:47:41,590 Two. 2130 01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:42,090 Two. 2131 01:47:42,210 --> 01:47:43,010 Two. 2132 01:47:43,010 --> 01:47:43,510 Two. 2133 01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:44,010 Two. 2134 01:47:44,010 --> 01:47:44,510 Two. 2135 01:47:44,510 --> 01:47:45,010 Two. 2136 01:47:45,010 --> 01:47:45,510 Three. 2137 01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:46,010 Four. 2138 01:47:46,010 --> 01:47:46,510 Four. 2139 01:47:46,510 --> 01:47:47,010 Four. 2140 01:47:47,010 --> 01:47:47,510 Five. 2141 01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:48,010 Five. 2142 01:47:48,010 --> 01:47:48,510 Six. 2143 01:47:48,510 --> 01:47:49,010 Six. 2144 01:47:49,010 --> 01:47:49,510 Seven. 2145 01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:50,010 Eight. 2146 01:47:50,010 --> 01:47:50,510 Nine. 2147 01:47:50,510 --> 01:47:51,010 10. 2148 01:47:51,010 --> 01:47:51,510 12. 2149 01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:52,010 13. 2150 01:47:52,010 --> 01:47:52,510 14. 2151 01:47:52,510 --> 01:47:53,010 15. 2152 01:47:53,010 --> 01:47:53,510 16. 2153 01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:54,010 17. 2154 01:47:54,010 --> 01:47:54,510 18. 2155 01:47:54,510 --> 01:47:55,010 19. 2156 01:47:55,010 --> 01:47:55,510 20. 2157 01:47:55,510 --> 01:47:56,010 23. 2158 01:47:56,010 --> 01:47:56,510 24. 2159 01:47:56,510 --> 01:47:57,010 27. 2160 01:47:57,010 --> 01:47:57,510 25. 2161 01:47:57,510 --> 01:47:58,010 26. 2162 01:47:58,010 --> 01:47:58,510 27. 2163 01:47:58,510 --> 01:47:59,010 26. 2164 01:47:59,010 --> 01:47:59,510 27. 2165 01:47:59,510 --> 01:48:00,010 28. 2166 01:48:00,010 --> 01:48:00,510 29. 2167 01:48:00,510 --> 01:48:01,010 30. 2168 01:48:01,010 --> 01:48:01,510 31. 2169 01:48:01,510 --> 01:48:02,010 32. 2170 01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:02,510 33. 2171 01:48:02,510 --> 01:48:03,010 34. 2172 01:48:03,010 --> 01:48:03,510 35. 2173 01:48:03,510 --> 01:48:04,010 36. 2174 01:48:04,010 --> 01:48:04,510 37. 2175 01:48:04,510 --> 01:48:05,010 36. 2176 01:48:05,010 --> 01:48:05,510 37. 2177 01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:06,010 38. 2178 01:48:06,010 --> 01:48:06,510 39. 2179 01:48:06,510 --> 01:48:07,010 40. 2180 01:48:07,010 --> 01:48:07,510 41. 2181 01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:08,010 42. 2182 01:48:08,010 --> 01:48:08,510 42. 2183 01:48:08,510 --> 01:48:09,210 43. 2184 01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:10,010 49. 2185 01:48:10,010 --> 01:48:10,510 54. 2186 01:48:10,510 --> 01:48:13,550 or something like that for $18,000. 2187 01:48:13,550 --> 01:48:17,069 And usually a realtor comes in and assesses it 2188 01:48:17,069 --> 01:48:19,050 higher than the town does, right? 2189 01:48:19,050 --> 01:48:21,409 Like, holy crap. 2190 01:48:21,409 --> 01:48:25,189 My little can went from $30,000 to $106,000. 2191 01:48:25,189 --> 01:48:28,270 Well, there you go, that's four, that's about four. 2192 01:48:28,270 --> 01:48:29,430 Rural property. 2193 01:48:29,430 --> 01:48:31,970 Must be nice in there, then. 2194 01:48:31,970 --> 01:48:33,630 I haven't done anything to it. 2195 01:48:33,630 --> 01:48:35,829 With your chair and cabinets. 2196 01:48:35,829 --> 01:48:38,729 Since Atlanta's gonna be hard getting older, you know. 2197 01:48:38,729 --> 01:48:40,829 I'm surprised they even went out and put that in. 2198 01:48:40,829 --> 01:48:43,170 It's the land, it's the sense that the land is disappearing. 2199 01:48:43,170 --> 01:48:46,229 It's gonna be hard to understand. 2200 01:48:46,229 --> 01:48:47,409 Yep. 2201 01:48:47,409 --> 01:48:48,250 All right. 2202 01:48:48,250 --> 01:48:49,090 I'm not expected to get on it. 2203 01:48:49,090 --> 01:48:49,930 Okay. 2204 01:48:51,529 --> 01:48:54,670 That's it, we're done with new business. 2205 01:48:54,670 --> 01:48:58,170 And I would like to make a motion to go into 2206 01:48:58,170 --> 01:49:02,600 executive session for personnel. 2207 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:03,439 Okay. 2208 01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:04,260 Okay. 2209 01:49:04,260 --> 01:49:05,699 Second. 2210 01:49:05,699 --> 01:49:08,079 So, what's going on here? 2211 01:49:08,079 --> 01:49:09,880 Yeah, you probably need an apartment. 2212 01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,439 Well, I didn't get one. 2213 01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:12,300 I don't need one. 2214 01:49:12,300 --> 01:49:13,800 You can do that unless your captain 2215 01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:14,800 wants to have a good night. 2216 01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:16,800 Okay, come on.