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title: "Stamford Select Board — August 6, 2026"
date: 2026-08-06
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present: [Nancy L. Bushika, Kurt Gamari, Jedidiah Gramlin, John Dunn]
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# Stamford Select Board — August 6, 2026

**Session:** Regular · **Duration:** 68 min · [Audio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GhiJ8blTmU) · [Minutes](https://townofstamfordvermont.org/mediaItems/Sbd%20Minutes%208-6-26.pdf)

**Present:** Nancy L. Bushika, Kurt Gamari, Jedidiah Gramlin, John Dunn
**Absent:** Michael G. Denault

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**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Let's start the Liquor Control Board meeting. The Select Board in its capacity as Liquor Control Board will meet on Thursday, August 6th at 545 to review applications for Liquor and Tobacco License. Reading and approval of minutes from April 16th, 2026. 1, 2, 3, 4, we are all, yes, we can approve it. Did I have a motion to approve it?

**Speaker 1:** Motion to approve it. Second.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** All in favor?

**Speaker 1:** All in.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** The application for, it's Belmont's, but it's Chararau, do we have to sign anything here?

**Speaker 2:** No, everything is online. Okay. So I'll enter your approval.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Was there any violations in the past year? No. And they want the places to sell beer and wine, tobacco and tobacco substitute endorsement. Any objections or can I have a motion to accept all three?

**Speaker 3:** Second.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** All in favor?

**Speaker 3:** Aye.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Any other business for the Liquor Control Board? Make a motion to adjourn.

**Speaker 4:** Motion to adjourn.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** All in favor?

**Speaker 5:** Aye.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Aye. Aye, aye, aye. There you go, Lori.

That used to be the post. Yeah, it was very good. Yeah it worked.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** John Dunn.

**Speaker 6:** Read all these two of them.

**Speaker 7:** John Dunn.

**Speaker 8:** What do they do?

**Speaker 7:** That's the audit.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** What's up with, solid leads? He, he did send them in, he was late, but he did send them in, he called Lori and told her. Part of the deal is, they have to notify us that he was late. Typical.

**Speaker 3:** I mean, do we allow shipping containers in New York City legally?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah, I guess. It's a structure, like a shed. Well, that's what she said she's treating it as, a shed, right? A shipping container?

**Speaker 7:** Yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah, there's people that have one.

**Speaker 7:** People that have seen this and want to leave already. Well, bye.

**Speaker 1:** Stay in on the last one. Hello.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Hi. How are you doing tonight?

**Speaker 9:** I am fantastic.

**Speaker 3:** And yourself? We're doing good here.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Keeping cool so far. Did I turn it on for liquor? Did you do it all, Kurt?

**Speaker 7:** Yeah. All right. I got it.

**Speaker 2:** I think I got it all.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** What? Oh, I got some.

**Speaker 2:** I'm too sick to feel better.

**Speaker 10:** Everyone's got a lot of storage.

**Speaker 2:** Oh, you want it? Yeah.

**Speaker 1:** Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 11:** Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah.

**Speaker 12:** Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

**Speaker 13:** Yeah.

**Speaker 7:** Yeah.

**Speaker 14:** Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 7:** Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's see what this is about. It's about a beer and smelling lateness.

**Speaker 4:** It's a beer.

**Speaker 7:** Yeah.

**Speaker 13:** Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 15:** It's a beer. Yeah. Yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah.

**Speaker 16:** Yeah.

**Speaker 15:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 17:** Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah.

**Speaker 18:** Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah. Yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah. Oh, yeah.

**Speaker 7:** Yeah. Building permit for a shipping container? It's over 300. Oh, it's over by like 20 feet. How long is it going to be there for? Chicken coops. Lori Shepard is raising the chickens. Lori, you want some goats? I got some goats in here. Hello. They're clear on some land for us. Oh my god, they eat all the stuff I'm trying to grow. They're very, very big. They're not prejudiced.

**Speaker 4:** They eat everything.

**Speaker 7:** When the grass grows in, they need sheep because they don't need the grass. Or cows. It's funny, there's all kinds of tall brush and stuff. They didn't have any interest in it. As soon as I week-backed it. As soon as I week-backed it, they were over. I'm glad you're here.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Set joint school and library meeting in October. So maybe we can...

**Speaker 1:** Get together in here like we did last time.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Just the three boards. A lot of the forest is cleared on here.

**Speaker 13:** That's right. What's going on? October's quite open, isn't it?

**Speaker 19:** Yeah. So is our August, too.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** I don't know what happened.

**Speaker 20:** Hold on.

**Speaker 21:** I don't know if it's a moon spot.

**Speaker 15:** I'm in school. So you think we just need three?

**Speaker 21:** Pardon? Three boards are all here.

**Speaker 15:** Okay.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Does it matter? I'm not going to your meeting nights, but you guys are all over the place for your meetings.

**Speaker 22:** For some of my students,

**Speaker 21:** they spend 25 years, 60 hours, just negotiating with the teachers. Yeah. That's not how we have meetings. Which is super boring, and we've got deep work meetings, which we have to stay in a group. I've done that recently. Like, I'm on the board every week,

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** and I have a group meeting. Are most of your meetings

**Speaker 21:** online that you meet? Yeah. Last night, I got home

**Speaker 22:** to go to Greenfield,

**Speaker 21:** and I picked up Elmer. Yeah. Last night,

**Speaker 15:** we did it right.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Cindy, do you know where Maya lives?

**Speaker 15:** I thought she said he. My daughter told me

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah, that's why he down to here. That's a trip

**Speaker 13:** Yeah, so

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah, you were here when we were chatting with the Dawkins people. You had to go through the checklist every two years, go through the checklist and say, this one is a resident, this one is not, this one moved, and then Lori has to send them a letter. Then they have to send to Matt, yes, I'm going to stay on your checklist, or no, I moved away. And we got people, I don't know half these people.

**Speaker 7:** Okay.

Call the meeting to order.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** We stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

**Speaker 15:** and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Welcome to a meeting of the Stamford Select. If you have a matter to discuss that is not included on the agenda, you may do so by addressing the chairperson and stating your name and address. You will notice that all our meetings are recorded, and this is to aid with the summarization of the minutes. Visitors are welcome, and we allow five minutes of comments per visitor and 15 minutes per topic. Discussions will be held in a calm and civilized manner and respectful of others. Select board members present are Nancy Bushika.

**Speaker 7:** Karen Gremlin. John Dunn. Bert DeMari.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Will there be any adding of items or removing items from tonight's agenda? Laurie's shaking her head, so maybe there is, maybe there's not.

**Speaker 19:** The only thing I can ask. Bridge works.

**Speaker 1:** Yes.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Will there be any adjustments to the agenda, such as changing the order of items? Jed is recording tonight's meeting for his YouTube video. Hearing of visitors. Cindy? Oh, okay. Yep.

**Speaker 3:** Go ahead then. Yeah.

**Speaker 23:** You don't have anything?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** No.

**Speaker 3:** Well, I'm just listening. I'm just listening. I'm a quiet one when I talk. I like to drink.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** I'm not sure. I don't like a list. Yes, Cindy. Very quick.

**Speaker 21:** So, I did make a notation to take back to my board meeting at the end of the month of a group meeting of the Select Board, the library, and the school board sometime in October. Right. Okay. Very good. I'll do that, and I will get back to you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Probably an off Selectmen's meeting. We wouldn't want it on the same night. Oh, of course. No, yeah.

**Speaker 21:** Okay. The school board is also asking if November 3rd, 2026, the Select Board would be hiring a sheriff for voting day. You're not closing the school? We would prefer not to. And so we share that expense. I need to think about it a little bit. All right. Because it is for November, and I know it's not on your agenda, so you can't make a decision

**Speaker 22:** for September 9th, I think.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** We've done that in the past.

**Speaker 21:** And we have. This slide, we can't put it in the backyard, but we told you that.

**Speaker 24:** Yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** What happened?

**Speaker 21:** So every couple, three years, the school has to undergo an insurance audit, which includes someone from the Vermont School Board Insurance Trust coming down and looking at our playground and gymnasium. And they check out different things. That slide was found in violation years ago because that surface gets hot. So that's why it was removed from the backyard. Okay. Like eight or ten. And as long as it wasn't in the fenced-in area, that was okay. That was good. But now they're looking at it, and there's a gap in it from the platform to where the slide starts. There's a small – I should have brought the drawing – there's a small gap, and they want that closed. And it was maybe one of the things wrong with it. But that gap was the biggest thing. So we certainly cannot put it in the backyard. And I don't know why you were thinking – I can't remember what you said, why it was in the way. Was it mowing issues?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Mowing. Or why was it out? Why was it out of the fence anyway? That's why it's out of the fence. Yes. And I think we saw that a couple years ago when the safety audit came down, something about some of the playground equipment. Did it just go away? Yeah. Well, I'll ask. I know someone mentioned something about historical. I don't know if that was –

**Speaker 18:** The slide is historical.

**Speaker 4:** Is the context of it actually historical, or it's just old?

**Speaker 5:** It's just – you split on it.

**Speaker 4:** You know what I mean?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Okay. Probably good.

**Speaker 4:** And everybody's – I don't know if that was – The slide is historical. Is the context of it actually historical, or it's just old? It's just – you split on it. You know what I mean? Okay. Probably good.

**Speaker 25:** And everybody's adult.

**Speaker 21:** It got burned on it. It got burned on it, so. Oh, but you can't think about it. The kids really – Yeah. That was probably the safest equipment we had. Probably the safest.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Probably the only thing that swings. So, we have issues with it that – I'll ask if they – if that is a possibility for it to go away.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 25:** Yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 3:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 26:** Yeah.

**Speaker 3:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 22:** well if it's if it can be used and it's damaged we shouldn't it isn't damaged per se that what

**Speaker 21:** they're saying is that the gap makes us safety hazard for like ties on sweatshirt

**Speaker 27:** if you remember there was a pamphlet of stuff that came through and covered all the stuff in

**Speaker 28:** the playground yeah I used to have to inspect them for thickness of bark mulch well there's something

**Speaker 21:** back there that looks fire truckish it has some rust spots on it and you have to tend to that and there's other

**Speaker 7:** so what are the options with the slide like we either can close the gap and it can stay there or if the gap's not closed it has to come down what's what do you guys think the kids aren't

**Speaker 29:** supposed to slide on it it's outside the fence in the area as it is I guess that's why I was saying it's outside of the fence it's failed in years past for other reasons the surface remains in the area and so now there's a second year so the school can't use it anymore and it's a liability issue probably just being there so I mean if it's documented so we want to take it down

**Speaker 7:** I don't know if it's documented

**Speaker 21:** I'm going to go back and just verify that the board backed and if that's a possibility how do we approach that is that something we can

**Speaker 6:** I think we're agreeable to take it down because if it's a safety hazard whether it's in the school yard or out there

**Speaker 7:** yeah make sure there's no things sticking up afterwards you know I'm sure it's steel can go in the dumpster

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** can't that be scrapped

yeah

**Speaker 21:** yeah that's steel and then lastly was the memorial itself and the committee was going to be formed for its upkeep so is that something that you would like a school board member on that committee

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** well I was did we say we wanted a committee now but I understood the committee was formed or going to be formed when the memorial went in back in 2006

**Speaker 21:** that was on that committee

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** yeah yeah so uh doesn't matter it just it's overgrown some of the weeds are

**Speaker 21:** well we did an excellent job last year and our principal did say after you brought her in our camp it was a reason she couldn't get the eighth graders organized to do what she wanted them to do she initiated the cleanup last year do we vote on it will deal with it do we vote on it yes the second stop it seems like a reason so I'm just impressed with that thought that in coming years the 8th grade as part of the community project could be maintained, but of course you have to wait so late to get in there, maybe that's where it was, but then you can't take the chance. It never gets done. So that's something I'm available to work on and review, not necessarily as a school board member.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Well, see if she wants to have the kids do that for the community project in the springtime.

**Speaker 22:** And then maybe on the committee people could check it again in July or August.

**Speaker 20:** Just put a shout out this spring and see if we're reaching 100 different people.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah, a little bit of a Facebook post I did last year.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** The mulch area was a lot larger when it first went in, but it looks fine like it is now and just mowing up to it.

**Speaker 21:** Yes. Well, that's what we had to work with. So we thought 8 bags of mulch. Doesn't go far. No. So one of the volunteers that was working with us got additional bags. That is 43 bags of mulch, but it was after, you know, severe neglect. Yeah. All right. Well, if that goes anywhere further or if there's more of an update.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Nate, you have something to add to this? Yeah. I didn't know what to use.

**Speaker 20:** No, I'm not sure. It's probably like all natural seed or mulch that you would have to use.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Not what they're chipping inside of the mulch.

**Speaker 20:** No plants.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** I know there was talk about removing the bushes in front of the school, but I saw they did some work there. They cut an area between the school and the back of the bushes so somebody could run right through there now.

**Speaker 4:** Where's that?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Right out front of the school. I know it's too late.

**Speaker 21:** Of course it is.

**Speaker 22:** I thought they were going to remove all the bushes in front there.

**Speaker 21:** Because that was the inspection from the state police that said visual.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yes. And I wouldn't be opposed to having the bushes behind the assistant's desk disappear, too, at the same time. Many years ago, the snow did a lot of damage to them. They're looking a little ragged. That's my opinion. I wouldn't mind seeing them gone. Maybe the board would, but. And I know you hired a janitor. Yes. I could see the difference the second day he was here with the bathrooms. He's not afraid to do anything. I mean, he's painted. He's repaired a couple lockers.

**Speaker 19:** I mean, he's just, obviously, he's eager and responsive.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah. He's been very happy. He's definitely a huge community member. Yeah.

**Speaker 24:** He's been very helpful.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 21:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 15:** Yeah. Yeah.

**Speaker 7:** I think there's a lot of that, particularly, especially about the winter duty. Do you want to chime in here when they're talking aboutpit Another uh, the janitor chose, particularly winter duties. I mean last winter ...

**Speaker 14:** I think you talked to him though or when he first came and yeah. Yeah. I did.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** ...when you got someone that really takes responsibility

**Speaker 21:** like that for years asked me to. Yeah. Yeah. Really hard to do. Yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah, he's very nice, cooperative, anything you ask him, he, yeah, helps us.

**Speaker 14:** The snow blower, I don't know what the status of it is now, but I know what you drove the snow all that well.

**Speaker 21:** It's very old.

**Speaker 14:** Yeah, rehab, at least that's what I was told.

**Speaker 15:** Right.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Laura, you weren't here when Cindy asked about hiring the sheriff for November 3rd voting. We'll discuss it at the next meeting. Maybe if you call now and reserve them, because we don't have a contract with them. So we'll see if we can get them or...

**Speaker 2:** Last time, they did not permit sending.

**Speaker 7:** Will we still need a police officer if we were able to hold it in here? Is that a possibility?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** In and out and no chatting.

**Speaker 7:** In and right out.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** That's why they don't...

**Speaker 7:** It would save us some money. It would save us some money and headache with the school if we were able to do that.

**Speaker 2:** Maybe if we had some voting booths here and rearranged it and people...

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** It would be tight.

**Speaker 7:** Think about it. Yeah. You've got now until the next meeting to decide on the police officer and...

**Speaker 21:** Well, it would be up to us to hire him. Yeah, up to us.

**Speaker 7:** Mike's not here. He's the leader's owner, but I don't know if that matters or not.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Anything else?

**Speaker 4:** I appreciate it.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Okay. Thank you, Kurt. You must have went to the school board and... I did, yeah.

**Speaker 4:** Good guy. Thank you, easy.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Good.

**Speaker 4:** They let me talk through the website.

**Speaker 5:** Good.

**Speaker 4:** In and out.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Okay. Anybody else? No? Reading and approval of records and orders, July 16th, and I have a motion to accept them as written.

**Speaker 3:** Motion. Second.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** All in favor?

**Speaker 3:** Aye. Aye.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Highway update. Review and sign two highway grant agreements.

**Speaker 2:** We have the... 2027 grant and aid. Dave's already done the 2026 project, right? So this is for next year, and Jim Henderson will get together with you to pick it out. Do you have ideas?

**Speaker 14:** Yeah, we've already discussed it.

**Speaker 2:** They're giving an $8,000 grant with a $2,000 match.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** So do you want me to sign this grant agreement? And we don't have to accept it if Dave doesn't like it. But... $8,000, we'll get something done.

**Speaker 14:** We have to fill that mandate.

**Speaker 15:** Okay. I have a motion to sign. Motion to sign.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** All in favor?

**Speaker 7:** Aye.

**Speaker 2:** And the other one is the Better Back Roads project for the Sportsman Road Suzanne Drive Culver. They're giving us $16,200 with a $4,000 match.

**Speaker 7:** What was that, like a three-year in the making project? Yeah.

**Speaker 14:** Okay.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

**Speaker 30:** Okay.

**Speaker 15:** Okay. All right. Motion to sign. All in favor? Aye.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** What else do you have for Highway, Dave?

**Speaker 14:** The chief's ceiling date's changed a few times. As of now, it's for Friday.

**Speaker 7:** Is that what's all tumble up at the old state garage there? Yeah. Why were the state police all around at one night? There was a truck. There was like four cruisers there.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** There was a truck behind there that they were looking at.

**Speaker 7:** Oh. I thought maybe somebody was stealing it.

**Speaker 14:** on the chips you know there's one on my garage but it's an old all the time

**Speaker 1:** yeah it looks good up there i've been through there a few times everybody slowed down on

**Speaker 7:** jeffson there was a few things about i understand coming down off the hill oh boy yeah i will say like it's great having those uh guys butting the holes in because it's definitely held everybody up i had a guy today pass me right in front of the school on the double

**Speaker 29:** line there's no guy what the heck you don't know

**Speaker 1:** i'll be good

**Speaker 14:** actually are you guys going to grade well we've graded it a couple times this year it's actually on the list for monday there's no way to stop it except for payment because making so many

**Speaker 1:** variables update or not is that what they paid at you no that's not really stipulation isn't a big

**Speaker 19:** issue it's crazy caution people spit it out what you got going on over there who's up and

**Speaker 13:** down the road national parks they give us some money back though

**Speaker 14:** um i haven't seen any major damage anymore than anybody else that's on a gravel road i went out there i was concerned about i went up there in the traffic okay i already

**Speaker 31:** am i irritating i certainly don't like it

**Speaker 7:** i haven't been on no road in a while but for the most part our town roads are in pretty good shape i've been in other towns in the area and they're all walked for it

**Speaker 14:** really brings that on

**Speaker 7:** the heavy rain

**Speaker 14:** thank you

**Speaker 7:** takes a lot i know

**Speaker 14:** Yeah, the heavy rain.

**Speaker 7:** The Klondike was a little bad when you go up that hill.

**Speaker 14:** Yeah, that usually lasts about a week or two after .

**Speaker 7:** I mean, it matches the rest of the road all the way down to, you know.

**Speaker 3:** The platform wasn't 100% .

**Speaker 7:** Yeah, the blacks, they're better off .

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Dave, is National Forest going to go out to the power lines? I wonder if they're going to re-flank that bridge or anything. Well, they're working on the bridge. The one that's out by the power line?

**Speaker 19:** Which one is the other?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Now, the two bridges are after the intersection of Klondike and County, heading out that way? You said two bridges. Oh, going up. Oh, okay, so going out to the power lines, out to County, they're not going to be doing anything on that bridge.

**Speaker 7:** Where are they? Up in the watershed area?

**Speaker 19:** So, you know, we're talking right after Highbridge, right after Old Town Road, where I live.

**Speaker 32:** Yeah.

They've got a bridge going up .

**Speaker 7:** Okay, yeah.

First wooden bridge is still there.

**Speaker 7:** The second one is the one they dropped. Oh, okay. Is that due to the logging that they've had done over the winter?

**Speaker 19:** I don't know. Something to do with that.

**Speaker 33:** Yeah.

**Speaker 19:** Now, they're redoing it. They have a few beams under there and sanctions. They have sanctions, but yeah.

**Speaker 7:** They're in the state. They could drop stuff in the back. They could drop stuff, yeah.

**Speaker 13:** Yeah. Yeah. What else do you have? Five-row.

**Speaker 1:** Oh, yeah. A ring? Do we need a wide ring? I'm not sure. Anything else, Dave? All the roads I know.

**Speaker 7:** What else can we burden you with? Laura? Could water be in our driveway?

**Speaker 19:** Could the driveway? Yeah, I could show you a picture of the water running right now.

**Speaker 14:** I'm going to add a little to try to make it a little more, like, your approach a little less harsh. Okay. But there's no way, without paving roads, you know. Yeah. You know, the roads are just constant. It's nobody's fault. You know, you get a lot of traffic up there going around the turn. They create a low spot. And then it rains hard and the water follows the low spot. You could create these roads every once in a while. It's all about knowing when to do it and if you can do it. It works anyway. Talk to some of the other property owners.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Do they put any barways in there?

**Speaker 14:** No, it's just that the, you know, heavy rain, the ditches. You know, silt. There's nobody's fault. You know, the rain's hard. It washes the tides. And things start to silt. And the water changes directions. If you're not right there to do something about it at the moment, every time it's pouring rain, you're going to have an issue. Play around.

**Speaker 2:** On ditch? No.

**Speaker 14:** Some of it comes around the wheel track. I mean, there's a ditch there. And the water sheets off. But a big part of the water comes down. And that runs across the end of the road causing it to cut. Wow. That's what happens. That happens in high rain. It's a river.

**Speaker 1:** Sometimes it's a private road. Sometimes it's a private river. Good luck, Pat. You know, you don't see so much coming off the town road.

What do you welcome?

**Speaker 1:** What's going on with the new truck? They're usually pretty good about their timeline and all of that. Well, I think the rates are going to change.

**Speaker 14:** Our quotes are silver. So I'm waiting until it's closer. But you did get the money for the chip seal.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Or the, uh. The chip seal. The chip seal.

**Speaker 14:** The chip seal. The chip seal. The chip seal. The chip seal. The chip seal.

**Speaker 2:** The chip seal. The chip seal. The chip seal. The chip seal. The chip seal.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** The chip seal. Did you get the money for the chip seal, or the, uh, the chip coat, right? Importable. Part of the paving.

**Speaker 2:** Yeah. That's it on roads.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Dave, how about anything on recycling? I did notice it looked like it charges. It usually carols pretty good with that.

**Speaker 14:** Yeah. It charges for something else. Can you check it out at?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Sh miles.

**Speaker 14:** I think it said shingles, but shingles are part of it. Can you check it out and call them?

**Speaker 34:** Is that all locked up after hours, so nobody can go in there and throw something

**Speaker 7:** out? No.

**Speaker 14:** Unfortunately, if somebody wants to throw something away, but I mean, as far as Carol's charging people, it's not that somebody's dumping it illegally, it's just Gisela's charging something worse. And who's that through Gisela? What do they charge for a tire?

**Speaker 35:** They're pretty good at that.

**Speaker 14:** Could it be one of those cases where they were there, and then when they came to pick it up, they just grabbed them and chucked them in there? Put it down, that's possible, yeah.

**Speaker 35:** No. Yeah, paved shingles, $125,000.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** $340,000. $340,000.

**Speaker 4:** That's a demolition.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Well, that's the whole thing.

**Speaker 7:** I'm going to probably have like a bag and a lump of the shingles on it.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Carol and, they're very good at it, watching what people are throwing in there.

**Speaker 14:** This has nothing to do with the options. No. This is the salaries of charging. No. We have. We haven't done that in the past, but we've also called around to see what other prices were. Yeah. It's a lot cheaper.

**Speaker 4:** Everyone dumps their stuff because they have to charge up.

**Speaker 7:** We separated it out. I'll probably go with right and one big hole. Yep.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** I noticed that somebody's been working around up at the recycling center, cleaning the weeds and trying to straighten up there. It's looking a little bit better than it, not as ragged as it was.

**Speaker 14:** Yeah, some of it's just . Yeah.

**Speaker 15:** Dawn or something?

**Speaker 14:** Dawn and Vinegar. Trying a bunch of times to get all their stuff out. And we did what we could. Yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Well, it's noticeable, so it's a little better.

**Speaker 14:** Living does. We try to do it with . Diesel fuel.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah. So if you want to check with Casella and see what they're saying about that.

**Speaker 15:** Yeah, I could call them.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Because why are we charging the customer if Casella is taking it for free?

**Speaker 14:** Well, no. They weren't taking it for free, but they weren't. It's usually they just mark it as C and D and they charge us a whole . Okay. Okay. Yeah, they're sneaking in stuff on you.

**Speaker 36:** That's true.

**Speaker 7:** Okay. We're not making any money in the dump as it is if we don't be sneaking in . Right. For the shale. Right. I don't believe there was tires.

**Speaker 36:** I didn't ask.

**Speaker 14:** Okay. What if you put the tire in a black trash bag? Can you just throw it in there or what?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** How does that work out?

**Speaker 14:** You don't want to ask questions. I don't think they want to check what's in the black bag. No.

**Speaker 7:** No. No.

**Speaker 36:** No.

**Speaker 7:** No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** No. No. No.

**Speaker 7:** No. So that it took a lot of work to get to these black bags. Mm-hmm. No. No. Just put a big asbestos sticker on it and no one will want to open it up.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah. Just take five. Yeah. Okay. That's it on recycling. Leo weather and memorial garden and outside maintenance. I think we covered that. Yep.

**Speaker 15:** Thank you, Kurt.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Yeah. No problem. Yeah. Review tax bill insert. Laurie's getting ready to send tax bills out. We had a chance to notebook it over. She sent it to us the beginning of the week. The only thing I noticed though was at the beginning of the week, preacher said, how do you do it? was the dates that the update I didn't see any changes I think last year we did a couple changes I mean if people read it just a date 911 numbers off and register their dogs that's next on the list yes that though is that tax bill insert I think we're good review and sign errors in the missions form we haven't received it yet from the successor if there was an error in the grand list and at this point there's a form you have to sign to change

you have to sign to change

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** brand list and I don't have it and I will check at the end of the meeting to see if it came through or it keeps checking her email anything else on

**Speaker 2:** correspondence Luria I am working with Adams Community Bank for the paving loan and they sent me some initial forms that need to be signed and there will be more of them are so I'm hoping that you'll agree to sign these preliminary forms tonight and then maybe authorize Nancy to sign the rest of them so that they can pull it together we won't have to wait two weeks to sign the papers and you can get the loan I received a bill yesterday for the work that they've done so far there's

**Speaker 10:** the one there then on the back this is looking for two signatures I have a motion to sign this for the

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** next meeting second

**Speaker 37:** all in favor

**Speaker 15:** aye moment

**Speaker 16:** all in favor

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** all right all right all in the second so you're now happy for half of the

**Speaker 3:** sounds good to me i'll go right well be right there with you you need to do the motion so that she can sign it

**Speaker 2:** if you if you would that way I don't have to wait two weeks for your next meeting

**Speaker 3:** motion to let Nancy sign when the paperwork comes in yep

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** second

**Speaker 3:** all in favor

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** approved what else do you have for me

**Speaker 2:** We just have a dog update.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Okay, we'll take a dog update.

**Speaker 2:** Lucas contacted the people and sent out his fines and people have begun to come in. At this point you're down to 12.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** 12 dogs or 12 people?

**Speaker 2:** 12 people, 19 dogs.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Have any of them contacted you that they are Dave McKay's on here? Oh, Luke.

**Speaker 38:** I'm sorry.

**Speaker 13:** That makes sense.

**Speaker 2:** I think he had trouble getting an appointment.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Okay. All right, if you see anybody on there, neighbors, friends, relatives. They're regulars.

**Speaker 15:** Great.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Any other things, Laura, you have?

**Speaker 2:** Yes. Next Tuesday is the primary election. And you guys, along with the justices of peace, make up the board of civil authority to count the ballots afterward. It should be, it's usually a very low turnout. But the state has changed how the counting is going to be done and how the write-ins are going to be recognized. So I'd like to have you all there. 7 o'clock. So the polls close at 7. It'll probably take the girls 5, 10 minutes to tally up. And then we'll start counting in here. Anything else?

**Speaker 7:** Good.

**Speaker 2:** Okay. Under new business. Reappraisal. There is a law, and I'm not sure if it's passed, but they're really talking about it, that every 4 to 6 months there's going to be a re-appraisal. That's right. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There's going to be a re-appraisal. There is a law, and I'm not sure if it's passed, but they're really talking about it, that every 4 to 6 years, towns have to reappraise. So we would not have to reappraise until probably 2030. But our assessor, Nemrit, and our reappraisal firm, one and the same, they suggested that we do a request-access. for proposal from them to get right on their list and then we could get in on the 2031 reappraisal they could lock us in now because we are with them right now also talking in the state there's boy there might be regional assessing districts that stamford will be in with who knows and who knows how they're going to reappraise if we did get into nimric for the 2031 we'd be locked in for another four to six years without this regional assessing district so it's kind of like up in the air who knows which way to go but we do know that we will be required to reappraise

**Speaker 10:** 46 years so did they tell us how much money we had to start setting aside no that's what i wanted to

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** look up and i didn't do you remember how

**Speaker 7:** much the last appraisal was? $80,000? I think we put some in. I would try to put $100,000 away, that was the first time I've used them, right? I wonder if it's easier for them after going through all the chutes and ladders. A lot of the support work has already been done. A lot of the expenses traveled. The last one was about 20 years ago.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Do we have $90,000 in a reappraisal fund? Did we pay it last year? I'm looking at the right book. $90,000.

**Speaker 2:** $20,000. We can add more money afterwards.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** So we have about $100,000.

**Speaker 14:** We just have to put it away and put in more and more. Maybe it's just a little bit of money.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** It's all in one account anyway, so it's not separate.

**Speaker 3:** We don't really have that. Pay for my clothes? No, it's just on paper. It's on paper.

**Speaker 7:** Let's check that out a little bit. You had old trucks, some farm equipment up there. Whatever came in for recycling on Wednesday. Yeah, that's what you've got on your list. GoFundMe. We have a slide that we've got to take down.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** So, do you think we should send NIMRC a letter and say, yes, we would like to hire you for a reappraisal?

**Speaker 7:** I think it's a good idea to lock them in, yeah.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Ask them what their fee would be. We don't have to, we can discuss it next meeting, but send it to them and, yeah. And we'll also ask them if they'll be our appraiser for next year.

**Speaker 7:** And then I would double check and just make sure what you've got in there for sure. Yeah. And then it wouldn't hurt to keep putting in there, because if you've got to do it every four or six years, it's going to take you, you know, a good-

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** The state kicks in about $6,000 or $7,000 a year.

**Speaker 3:** Wasn't NIMRC the only group that actually entered the bid process for us? Yeah, it was a 70-some request. Well, do you see the house around marked every week? I don't think it's going to get- They're not on there. Yeah, but they all do their own thing, yes, I know.

**Speaker 15:** One thing.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Mm-hmm.

**Speaker 15:** Okay.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** And review 2025 audit. Laurie has given us a copy, and if everyone- Oh, let's have it back. I'll take it back and put it in Mike's box, so he can fall asleep with it, too. There's going to be a budgeting and borrowing webinar, August 1st, 2020, and it's going to be in March, August 1st, 2020. We'll do that. We'll do that. So, it's on that. August 12th. 10 to 11, I think it said. Is that a Wednesday? 10 to 1130. Is that the day after election? 10 to 1130, and I think we can sign up at home if we have to or here. I was going to say, I did sign up here for anybody who wants it, but it's free, so you can sign up and just watch it at home.

**Speaker 10:** And I think if you sign up, they'll send you a reporting that you can watch at a later

**Speaker 2:** time. So, if you sign up and then can't make it, it's the same thing. Right. Or... It's only a day. Yeah, so it has to be approved by the state. So if you sign up and then can't make it, because it's in the middle of May, you could watch the recording later on with your vision, but you won't get that to anybody who needs an email or a link for you to...

**Speaker 15:** I think I have emailed it to you, but if you can't find it...

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Then, Laurie did mention August 11th, Vermont primary election, he wants us here for counting, and that's all I have on your new business. What do you guys have, anything? This is what I mistakenly printed off, because I read 15 pages. This is the Vermont election book, and I thought it said 15 pages, it was 115, and after it's gone, what the heck did I do? So, the delete, yeah. And you can see, I gave you last time the loans and bank loans and vehicles that we have. That, yeah. Pretty tight on money. So, hopefully everybody will pay their taxes this year. And anything else?

No?

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Motion to adjourn.

**Speaker 23:** Motion to adjourn.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** All in favor?

**Speaker 3:** Aye.

**Nancy L. Bushika (Chair):** Good. Okay. Thank you very much.

**Speaker 3:** Thank you, everyone.